WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 6 May 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:01.040 Lewens. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to the late pays. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:08.320 Well, good evening. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.360 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.760 up tonight. Anthony Albaneze says he loves quiet diplomacy, so 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.840 how will he react to the Indonesian president releasing a 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.599 minute long video of their phone call after Saturday's election? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.639 When we'll play you some of that a little later. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.880 Plus when we look at the papers, Tim Wilson becomes 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.560 the first Liberal to win back a seat from the Teals, 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.800 and the front page of Tomorrow's Australian has more leaks 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:38.200 from Liberal Party campaigners about just how bad the election 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:39.479 campaign was. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:40.479 We'll get to all. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.560 Of that shortly, but you would have heard the expression 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.040 NIMBYs not in my backyard, locals who want the local 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.919 area just for locals. Well, there's a bunch of Nimby's 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.240 in Eastern Sydney who want backpackers band from the iconic 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.600 Bronte Beach on Christmas Day. And I got to be honest, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.880 I don't blame them. Every Christmas backpackers descend on the 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.480 iconic beach and completely trash the joint. You can have 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.400 a look at some of the images on your screen 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.520 there from Christmas just gone. Garbage ends up being left 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.920 absolutely everywhere, and of course locals end up paying for 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.319 the massive cleanup. This has been happening for a number 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:24.120 of years now. Last Christmas there were fifteen thousand, mostly 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.600 overseas backpackers and it took all night for council staff, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.280 who of course are paid for with local rates, to 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.200 get the beach back to its normal, pristine condition. So 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.600 Waverley Council came to locals last night with a few options. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.920 Option one was we just allow this event to continue 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.240 without any changes. Locals, as you can imagine, weren't happy 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.280 about that. Option two was, well, we'll pay for extra 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.480 police and extra toilets in the hope of cleaning it up. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.560 Locals didn't want to pay for that. Another option was 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.280 more security and more transport. Locals rejected that. The fourth option, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.840 the final one, was pretty extreme, a one kilometer fence 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.600 right around Bronte Beach and tickets being sold for entry 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.239 on Christmas Day, and locals rejected that as well. In fact, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.760 locals proposed their own solution then that is shut the 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.560 entire event down. Now, of course they can't legally stop 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.919 anyone from going to the beach. So locals suggested, We're 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.920 willing to pay through our rates for police sniffer dogs 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:24.880 that'll get rid of. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.240 A whole lot of backpackers. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.959 We're willing to pay for bag checking to make sure 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.480 people don't bring alcohol. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.359 And why don't we do a little thing. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.320 I think it's called caleb geo blocking, which would prevent 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.040 ubers from getting closer to the area and make it 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.280 difficult for backpackers to access the joint. Now I suspect 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.120 you are going to say live and let live, but 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.520 I reckon if you're watching your local beach trash year 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.679 after year, you've got the right to say enough. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.400 But you don't own the beach. I mean, this is 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.799 the great you live there? Is great you live there. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.960 I mean everyone who gets to live in a beauty 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.520 exactly areawashed. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.320 Can't visit out visit. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.920 I live in Balmain. Does that mean I should be 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.359 able to then say that all the lefties should be evicted? 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.480 I mean, unfortunately, when I look when I looked at 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:19.400 the booths. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.480 The way I treat the place. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.240 When I looked at the booth, well, I mean your 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.519 political position says a lot about how you treat the place. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.880 And when I looked at the booth that I voted 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.399 at on Saturday in bal Main, there were fifty two 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.320 people out of the thousands who walked in there who 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.080 put one nation as their first preference. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:36.760 And I think. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.800 Laybads, you know, one point three or it was ridiculous. Anyway, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.720 My point is, even though you live there, you can't 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.160 dictate who moves in and out of the area. And 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.000 the great thing about the beaches in Australia is that 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:48.880 we all. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.600 Have access to them. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.320 No one owns the beach, no one gets to say 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.840 that you can and cannot. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:54.240 Use the beach. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.680 I agree that a bunch of these people are obviously louts, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.280 and I hate seeing litter, and they ought to be 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.840 made to pick up the litter. You know, the council 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.800 can send people down with the with you know, electric 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:06.960 cow prods or something. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:07.840 As far as I'm. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.000 Concerned, a bloody litter, I wouldn't have a problem with that. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.600 But you can't say that you're not allowed to go 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.440 to the beach and have fun on Christmas Day. And 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.880 I mean, for Heaven's sake, you can't even take a 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.679 beer to the beach on Christmas Day. What a bunch 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.919 of wowsers. What a nanny state we are. If you 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.800 can't enjoy a beer or a glass of wine or 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.080 whatever it is on the beach on Christmas Day and 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.520 have a bit of fun that sure, sure some people 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.760 carry on a bit, but you can't let the noisy 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.400 few ruin it for. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.760 The rest of them here to pick up your litter. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.080 Fortun to pick up the litter. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.599 Mag your line of reasoning. Then we'd have to cancel 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.760 every single Australia Day fireworks because you've seen the absolute 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.440 mountains of rubbish that goes for miles. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:55.400 No one capture. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.400 We need drone footage to capture the extent of the damage. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.760 Once hundreds of thousands of people have cleared out post 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.880 the Australia A fireworks, you wouldn't then be like, oh wow, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.800 we've got to shut that down. People sadly don't behave 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.960 as they should, and especially if they're coming to the area, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.200 they're not going to be packing their rubbish in a 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.360 rubbish bag and taking it back home. The council could 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.080 do a lot more in putting out way more bins 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.040 and some of the measures that they propose were actually 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:28.160 quite reasonable, but saying no alcohol or trying to reduce 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.560 the number of people enjoying the beach on a great 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.520 day like Christmas. That's just downright un Australian. And keep 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.520 in mind, every single area in Sydney, if it's a beautiful, 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.240 one has to put up with this to a certain extent. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.360 There's the street in Kurabilly called McDougall Street, and everyone 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.000 already knows if you live in Sydney what I'm about 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.920 to say, because it is lined with jackarandas and every 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.919 spring it turns into a magical wonderland. And every spring 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.159 thousands of people come. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.120 To McDougall Street. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.280 And I feel so sorry that the people who actually 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.840 live on that beautiful area in Sydney because they are 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.599 beset their roads that they'd normally get to park on 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.240 because it is their road, they are residents there. Those 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.520 roads are shut down for safety measures and it is 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.320 literally be set upon. I waddled down there for some 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.760 coffee and wattle stree, wattled tottled whatever. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.000 You want to say. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.640 Meander down there literally breathing room only. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:30.719 It's on the water. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.800 It's got a stunning park right there, and people are 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:38.360 doing photoshit out there were girls who had brought costume 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.520 changes so that they could do several shoots. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.920 It was absolute pandemonium. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.800 And this is not just a tree line street, it's 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.200 a house line street. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.120 So those people end looks. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.599 Do you have so many beautiful areas of Sydney would 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.800 have to put up with this for different reasons at 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.200 different times of the year. And if you've chosen to 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.880 live in the sacred part of stron too, you had 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.640 absolutely stunning Yes it is You're gonna have to suck. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:08.239 Up a reflex reaction and response. This has been happening 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.640 for year after year after. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.080 Year, as does the Carnage Post Australia. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.400 Various things to fix it up. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.520 If you had fifteen thousand people having a massive party 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.080 in your front yard year after year, not your yard 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.080 public and. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.440 Who pays for it? They're the ones who pay. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.960 For it a log budget for a single year. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.880 The reality locals paid the same. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.800 We should be So you put a date on the 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.880 beach and so you can only get to if you 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.120 show your rate slip. Did you ever see the BBC 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.640 comedy The League of Gentlemen came out in the nineties. Anyway, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.920 it's it's set in this sort of tight knit town. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.840 And in the first episode, this out of towner walks 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.440 into the local general store and they're all up in 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.240 arms that this out of town has walked in. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.280 They say, this is. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.920 A local shop for local people, and that sounds exactly 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.760 like what you suggest. This is a local beach for 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.320 local people, and all you are my imagine you came 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.400 in from Penrith. How do you come from Penrith? Rate 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:10.200 unwashed swive? 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.480 When I lived on the Sunshine Coast, at New Year's Eve, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:13.440 they fenced off a. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.960 Major part of the Malulabar Beach and you had to pay. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.400 It was a small fee to get inside, but it 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.880 enabled them to kick numbers to a reasonable amount so 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.840 that they didn't get problems. I don't mind the fence 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.400 off and charging. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:26.960 In build a wall. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:29.800 Very Jompian. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.320 I think you lack sympathy and empathy for the locals. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.720 Wait, now you get to enjoy it all year round 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.680 and again you get to live in a really beautiful 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.440 part of Sydney. There's gonna be some downsides, boohoo for 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.319 you will envy you the year round other than Christmas. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.560 But one council who's actually doing something pretty awesome. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.960 He is Mornington Peninsula councils. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.480 They're getting together tonight and deciding on whether they are 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:01.160 going to redirect front funds that were a ridgely directed 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.920 at climate action grants and actually put it toward Australia 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:12.000 Day celebrations, ANZACs Day celebrations, community services and roads. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:18.160 So actual local government council things. This is revelatory. We 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.680 are with you. Let's hope this. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.080 Catches on Mornington Peninsula. We read in the paper today 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.880 up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars would be 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:32.240 invested in local area community capital infrastructure grants, one hundred 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.920 thousand would be allocated to Biolink support grants and a 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.360 further fifty thousand set aside for the biosphere. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.040 Road safety, emergency services and. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.400 Lifeguards would be boosted by one hundred and fifteen thousand 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.960 in community led safety subsidies, and tourism centers across the 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.600 region would share in eighty thousand dollars. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.800 So if the council adopts. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.520 This, they're going to scrap one hundred and sixty thousand 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.480 dollars in climate grant which were previously used to pay 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.360 for all bits and pieces and a group called repower 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.760 and we're saving the planet when everyone just wants road 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.120 rates and rubbish done. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:12.560 It looks like the morning too. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.360 Peninsula is actually returning to its remiss. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.040 You know, I had I had to look up in 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.480 that quote a bit one hundred grand for biolink support graphs. 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:22.600 What wank is this? 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.840 Apparently biolink is where you get like little bits of 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.080 habitat and sort of build them together so that I 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.160 don't know, a chlamydia infested koalas can walk from one 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:35.040 paddock to another. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.840 Apparently that's what that is in the budget. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:39.719 Good or good on them. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.320 But one of the things that does annoy me about 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.280 this is that they're cutting three hundred and fifty grand 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:45.880 out of the arts. And I think that's one of 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.440 the things that you could argue does actually add something 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.199 to the community as it goes to Of course. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.880 It does, of course, state of the other every time 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.600 we put up a story about the latest artistic decision 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.319 by a council, it's a communist I so i'd have believe. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.480 Like we're back in Soviet Agree, I'd have believe give 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.920 three hundred and fifty k for the local orchestra and 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.000 an opera group. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.800 That's where I like that that they were giving money 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.880 to local musos to help them launch launch. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.440 Yeah, I know this should be there should be there 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.120 should be better overside over that. But eyes on the 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.880 prize though. They've also asked for five million dollars to 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.880 be found in wages, and good on them, and five 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.480 another five million dollars in other service efficiencies elsewhere. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.040 Good on them. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.199 But last month they scrapped and this is this will 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.760 probably get up and this is the indicator, is that 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:38.400 last month they scrapped their climate emergency declaration. And can 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.960 you believe it, in the last three years, the Mornington 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:47.320 Peninsula Council in Victoria had spent eleven point seven million 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:54.079 dollars on climate related things. No point seven million dollars 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:54.880 on the climate. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.680 This is a council for heaven and that includes four 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.640 million dollars for wages for to administrate the remaining seven 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.880 million dollars to somehow change the climate. They've decided that 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.840 from now on, funding must meet three criteria and these 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.320 are revelatory. Funding needs to be transparent, it needs to 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.120 be well considered, and third, it needs to deliver clear 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.079 public value. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.359 Imagine incredible. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.440 I love this people like to speak. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:27.239 To your point about climate emergencies. Kingston Council in Victoria 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.200 they declared a climate and ecological emergency a few years ago. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.680 And of course once you declare an emergency, over ninety 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.000 councils around Australia have done this, then they've got to 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.040 have a climate emergency plan, and of course the plan 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.320 then requires funding. So Kingston Council they spent a million 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.560 dollars out of their rate payer budget on trying to 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.240 change the climate. I'm just wondering if any of these 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.640 staff ever gets sacked when the temperature doesn't change. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.959 Well, it sounds like some of them aregonu, which is 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:59.120 they're also like Caleb mentioned, the councilors have directed their 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.199 bureaucrats run every single council. But there's in particular to 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.400 gouge millions of dollars out of what they're currently forking 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.439 out for employees for council employees. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.400 So maybe maybe it's an overall crack. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.520 It sounds like dog to me, do you think they'll 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.560 be spared or no. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:16.880 Here we go, they'll have. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.920 All over. I reckon I would make a good climate 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.080 emergency officer. I reckon I'd be perfectly cut out for 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.760 the job, because if anyone knows how to squander some money, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.400 I'm probably the man to do it. Now, I don't 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.600 know some of you at home probably follow AFL and 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.080 others follow NRL. But bear with me if you're an 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.480 NRL person here because this is about more than just sport. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.439 This is about injustice. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:41.040 Now there's an. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.760 AFL player, he plays over reports, so that's the first 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.120 strike against his name. I'm an Adelaide Crow's man. Willie 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.240 Rioli of course comes from the famous AFL family, the Riolis, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.920 and anyone who follows Ossie rules will know what. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.000 I'm talking about. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.080 But he was caught up in the weekend in a 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.480 scuffle in the third quarter against the Bulldogs with one 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.600 of their players, Bailey Dale, and following the match, he 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.360 sent him a DM on social media, a direct message 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.160 in which he issued a pretty serious threat that if 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.440 he stepped outside of his hotel room, that is Dale, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.120 when he is in Darwin this weekend they're playing against 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.840 the Gold Coast in Darwin on Saturday, that Ril has 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.760 a lot of family, a lot of mates up in 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.640 Darwin and they will sort him out. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.200 That is a clear and serious threat, and you would 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.440 think that would. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.840 Require intervention from not only the clubs but the AFL. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.640 I mean, for heaven's sake, if you've got players threatening 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.840 each other, not just on the field in the heat 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.920 of the moment, but off the field when they have 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.960 clarity of mind, this is the kind of thing you 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.960 have to stop. But when it comes to Willie Rioli, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.720 apparently not. He's been counseled sorry by his club, the 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.120 Port Adelaide Football Club, but the AFL says there's no 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:58.360 case to answer here. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:14:59.000 There are no. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.280 Suspensions, no finds, nothing to speak of. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:03.480 And why might that be? 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.160 Well, Willy Rioli, he is from the Rioli family, is 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.240 an Indigenous man, and just a couple of weeks ago 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.640 he brought up racism. Now you might remember a few 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.080 years ago there was this bogus report done into supposed 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.920 racism problems at the Hawthorne Football Club, and Rioli brought 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.240 this back up again in an Instagram post that he 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.280 put up referring to the Hawthorne Football Club where he said, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.920 play with fire, you're gonna get burnt. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.960 My hatred for this club goes way past last. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.560 Year's antics, and I'll get to them in a moment. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.800 What they did to my dad and my brother. Is 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.520 why I can't stand them, not the players. So just 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.200 a couple of weeks ago and he took a little 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.680 bit of time off after that. Again, he wasn't sanctioned 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:49.000 for doing this. He brings up racism problems in AFL, 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.200 and then a few weeks later he issues a full 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.400 blown threat to another player and for some reason that 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.720 gets swept under the carpet. Methinks it's because he's been 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.680 talking about racism recently and the AFL is going easy 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.720 on him, because when you consider other people in the 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.960 people in the AFL who've been sanctioned for far less recently, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.960 I mean, this is just ridiculous. You had players during 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.880 the off season who was sanctioned for rocking up to 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.000 a private party after the season ended dressed as Osama 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:20.640 bin Laden. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.120 Did that hurt anyone? No, it didn't issue a threat though, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:25.240 no problem. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.680 Jeremy Finlayson, who also plays for Port Adelaide last year 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.800 got three matches. He was suspended for three matches because 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.640 he used a homophobic slur on the field. He immediately 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.240 reported that to his team, went to the opposition team 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.760 and apologized, fronted up to his club and told them 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.120 what he had done. He was disciplined by his club, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.000 but the AFL saw fit for that to give him 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.080 three matches. The coach of Port Adelaide Football Club last 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.880 year had a very brief verbal scuffle with Jack Ginovan. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.400 He was given a twenty eight thousand dollar fine for 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.639 getting a bit lippy after they beat the Hawks in 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:05.800 the semi finals. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.879 Who else have you got? Alistair Clarkson, the coach of 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:09.800 North Melbourne. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.080 He was fined twenty grand last year for calling an 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.120 opposition player a soft cock. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.000 On on and on it goes. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.720 Taylor Walker was given six matches for a racist slur 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.840 he used during a match in which he. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:23.720 Was not playing. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.720 I mean, we have a very clear precedent here. When 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.879 reasonably minor things happen, the AFL comes out and gives 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.480 you either a serious fine or a suspension. But Willie 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.440 Rioli brings up racism a couple of weeks ago. He 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.639 then commits an offense and somehow the AFL does nothing 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.399 about it. You can't tell me that those two events 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:44.040 are not linked. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.280 And that's the problem the AFL has because the AFL, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.359 as most people would be aware, is the most woke 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.240 sporting organization in the country. It seems like every other 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.399 weekend of football, the round is dedicated to some particular cause, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.679 whether it's the Rainbow Round or whatever indigenous round. And 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:07.520 so whether or not this is about Reoli's indigenous background, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.720 that will be the perception. And that's a bad thing 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.359 for the AFL to have. If anyone in any normal 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.800 workplace had issued such a threat to a colleague, you'd 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.400 imagine they would immediately be sacked at least. And yet, 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.040 as you said, really in this workplace, the AFL are 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.040 all about workplace safety, you know, they're all about protecting 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.680 their heads. So you can't tackle properly or bump properly anymore, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.720 but you're allowed to issue a threat of violence, and 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.080 somehow that is completely overlooked by the AFL. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.359 One more thing on this. I always like to reverse 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.040 the scenarios in these instances. If it was. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:47.120 A white player issuing a threat to Willie Rioli. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.240 I'll get my boys on you. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.680 You could imagine the outrage and the AFL would come 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.200 down like a ton of bricks. So this just smacks 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.640 of hypocrisy and another reason why so many people who 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.880 love the sport pretty much given up on the administration 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:03.840 and are turning their back on the AFL because it 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:05.880 is incredibly hypocritical in. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.360 Woke too right to the States. Now when just when 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.040 you think Donald Trump. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.720 Has just made too many announcements that maybe don't make 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.680 that much sense of late, he's doing a great job 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.160 on many other scores, But yesterday we were talking about 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.879 his new one hundred percent tariffs on movies that aren't 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.199 made in the United States of America. He wants all 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.080 those production costs to stay in the country, which has 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.200 everyone scratching their heads, going, movies aren't products, they don't 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.000 travel through ports, how can you tariff these Well, barely 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.320 twenty four hours later, he has now decided to announce 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:46.240 that he is going to reopen Alcatraz. Yes, that infamous 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.680 prison located on an island. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:49.960