Speaker 1: On scorn lives Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening, Anne, Welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming
Speaker 2: up tonight, a massive program. Nikata will be here shortly
Speaker 2: to cover the day's top headlines. Sarah Gonzales will have
Speaker 2: the latest from the US A liberal MP Richard Redan
Speaker 2: on the curious funding sources of some TiAl candidates, and
Speaker 2: later in the Alkins's Schofield will be here with all
Speaker 2: these celebrity and world news you care about but pretend
Speaker 2: not to.
Speaker 3: And Left is losing it features this charmer.
Speaker 4: So not someone out there with the terminal illness that's
Speaker 4: willing to do it. I mean, I'm sure people are
Speaker 4: willing to help if you're willing to do it.
Speaker 2: But first, Anthony Albernezi faced off against the opposition leader
Speaker 2: last night in the second prime minister's debate of the campaign,
Speaker 2: this time hosted by the ABC, and the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: was caught out in a lie when he was challenged
Speaker 2: by Peter Dutton.
Speaker 5: I have been very clear about what our position is
Speaker 5: and why that is the case. Was it modeled. It
Speaker 5: certainly wasn't commissioned by us.
Speaker 6: To do so.
Speaker 7: It was modeled by the government was public it's publicly
Speaker 7: available that this Prime Minister has a problem with the truth.
Speaker 2: And yes, the Prime Minister did in fact contradict previous
Speaker 2: remarks from his own Treasurer, Jim Chalmers, who had this
Speaker 2: to say in September last year.
Speaker 8: It is not.
Speaker 9: Unusual at all for governments or for treasurers to get
Speaker 9: advice on contentious issues which are in the public domain,
Speaker 9: including in the Parliament. It is not unusual for treasurers
Speaker 9: to do that.
Speaker 2: You know, the Prime Minister does have an interesting relationship
Speaker 2: with the truth. Remember when he claimed on the ABC
Speaker 2: just a few weeks ago that this.
Speaker 3: Wasn't a fall. Why Albora, I mean everyone has falls. Well,
Speaker 3: now he's saying.
Speaker 2: That his government never requested modeling from treasurer on negative
Speaker 2: gearing and capital gains reforms, even though Jim Chalmers has
Speaker 2: already admitted that they did.
Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this.
Speaker 2: As senior fellow of the mensi's Research Center, Nikkaita Nick,
Speaker 2: why not just come clean about this. We know where
Speaker 2: Labours stand on this issue. We know there's great debate
Speaker 2: within their ranks about these measures. Why not just be
Speaker 2: honest about and say we did some modeling, We're not
Speaker 2: going down that road.
Speaker 5: Be far better than trying to bluff your way through
Speaker 5: by lying, which is what the Prime Minister tried to
Speaker 5: do yesterday. I mean in the same debate. Actually, Peter
Speaker 5: dunn't apologized for saying something that he now thought regretted
Speaker 5: over Indonesia ant the Albanes. He should have done the
Speaker 5: same then he should do it now. But there's a
Speaker 5: long long list of this. You've already mentioned the falling
Speaker 5: off the stage incident. Also recently, remember Rita Anti Ambinez.
Speaker 5: He said that they had not Labor Party had not
Speaker 5: missioned the modeling, the repute modeling, which came back and
Speaker 5: said everybody was going to get a two hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy five dollars cut off their electricity bill.
Speaker 1: And you go.
Speaker 5: Back to the transcript three years ago. Is absolutely proud
Speaker 5: of the fact that they've commissioned this piece of research,
Speaker 5: which was the finest piece of research ever done by
Speaker 5: an opposition since federation. Now he's telling us we had
Speaker 5: nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, they walked back from that position very quickly. They
Speaker 2: disavowed that modeling very quickly. Indeed, now you've written a
Speaker 2: fantastic piece in the Australian newspaper about Labour's self image
Speaker 2: as a friend of the marginalized and dispossessed.
Speaker 3: You say that has become.
Speaker 2: A cruel joke, and you make the argument Nick that
Speaker 2: low and middle income households have really suffered far worse
Speaker 2: from rising inflation than twenty three months of negative per
Speaker 2: capita growth. Is Labor still the party of the working
Speaker 2: class in Australia?
Speaker 10: All?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not? Reader in fat I was in Shell Harbor
Speaker 5: yesterday in the seed of Whitlam talking to some people.
Speaker 5: They're talking to a woman whose parents were both drug
Speaker 5: addicts and she'd been thrown out. Just typical poor sort
Speaker 5: of person you'd expect Labor that. I thought she wasn't
Speaker 5: having a bar of labor. She was going to vote
Speaker 5: for the Liberal candidate, you know. And this is what
Speaker 5: I'm finding all the time. You won't, of course read
Speaker 5: this in the Guardian or the Cidney Morning Herald, because
Speaker 5: those people never get out further than Strathfield, even if
Speaker 5: they get that far. But you don't have to go
Speaker 5: far into the into the outer suburbs to see what
Speaker 5: twelve mortgage rate increases does to people who are really
Speaker 5: trying to bring up a family working and you know,
Speaker 5: I've seen them come out with very sad supermarket market
Speaker 5: trolleys of bread, potatoes and sausages and a bit of
Speaker 5: toilet paper and that's it. You know, it is tragic.
Speaker 5: And of course this is not being reported, which is
Speaker 5: why so many in the smarter mainstream media are trying
Speaker 5: to tell us this is going to be a great
Speaker 5: alban easy triumph. I promise you it won't be. And
Speaker 5: Labour's going to take a big, big hit in what
Speaker 5: was once it's heartland.
Speaker 2: Well, they're certainly bleeding support in the outer suburbs. You
Speaker 2: noted that in your peace out of suburbs of Melbourne
Speaker 2: and Sydney and beyond.
Speaker 3: But not all those votes are going to the coalition, Nick,
Speaker 3: Why is that? Why the coalition.
Speaker 2: Failing to capture those disaffected voters.
Speaker 5: Well, this is a big problem. I mean it's kind
Speaker 5: of understandable if you take a seat like Whitlam or weare,
Speaker 5: which have always been labor, you know, and if your
Speaker 5: family has always voted labor and your grandparents all voted labor. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a bit of a big step to make. At
Speaker 5: once fell swoop and I understand. You know, in the past,
Speaker 5: people would vote one nation and we used to call
Speaker 5: them one nation a gateway drug to voting liberal. But
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that's going to happen now. I
Speaker 5: think that they really there's really a lot of great
Speaker 5: deal of suspicion of both major parties. They're going to
Speaker 5: have to earn that trust back. It's going to be
Speaker 5: very hard. They won't be able to do it in
Speaker 5: one election, but they've really got to try, because we're
Speaker 5: talking in some of these seats fifteen sixteen seventeen percent
Speaker 5: of the vote conservative vote going to conservative independence, not
Speaker 5: to the Liberal Party. And if they want to govern,
Speaker 5: then clearly they've got to change that.
Speaker 2: And we've seen the coalitions vote dive as well in
Speaker 2: recent polling, and that's votes on the right that they're
Speaker 2: losing again to the minor parties.
Speaker 3: Why is that vote fracturing.
Speaker 2: On the right flank of the Liberal Party? Is just
Speaker 2: because their policies appear too similar to Labor? Is it
Speaker 2: because they're refusing to walk away from the Paris Steel.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering why when we've got such a left leaning
Speaker 2: federal government, we've got so many on the right who
Speaker 2: are not happy with the coalition.
Speaker 5: I suspect it's because the Liberal Party try and pull
Speaker 5: their punches a bit. They know they want to try
Speaker 5: and win back some of the Teal seats and they
Speaker 5: know that some of the things that ordinary people would
Speaker 5: think was quite normal would go down very badly in
Speaker 5: those TiAl seats. So this is the eternal dilemma for them.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that their future clearly does not
Speaker 5: lie in Wentworth and Couyon. It lies out in those
Speaker 5: places like Banks like Chris Bowen, Seed McMahon Whitnam, and
Speaker 5: in Victorian in seats like Corwell for instance, in the
Speaker 5: northern suburbs of Melbourne, and that's where they have to
Speaker 5: really start building their base. They have to be able
Speaker 5: to win elections without any of those Teal seats, and
Speaker 5: they'll do that by giving a very clear message, as
Speaker 5: clear as the one that Peter Dutton gave in the
Speaker 5: voice referendum.
Speaker 2: You know what, I wish you were advising the opposition leader,
Speaker 2: because I think you're one hundred percent right. I think
Speaker 2: this desperation to claw back some of those Till seats
Speaker 2: could cost the election because they have again compromised on
Speaker 2: their messaging on their policies, on who they are and
Speaker 2: what they stand for, and the electorate I think, is
Speaker 2: going to be reluctant to throw out a first term
Speaker 2: government without an opposition that is absolutely clear in what
Speaker 2: its values are and what its policies are. They're just
Speaker 2: too much same same for the average voter who's not
Speaker 2: all that politically engaged. Now, let's talk about revelations from
Speaker 2: documents obtained under freedom of information laws by Bloomberg showing
Speaker 2: that the Albanezi government, through Communications Minister Michelle Roland, gave
Speaker 2: YouTube's CEO Neil Mohan a guarantee last year that his
Speaker 2: platform would be exempt from Australia's ban on social media
Speaker 2: for youngsters before the government. And they made this assurance
Speaker 2: nick before the government had even decided which platforms would
Speaker 2: be covered.
Speaker 3: YouTube has war.
Speaker 2: Foid being part of this ban, and if we're trusting
Speaker 2: the word of the Safety Commissioner, YouTube is the most
Speaker 2: popular online platform for youngsters, so why are they exempt?
Speaker 2: For the record, I'm against this entire ban. I think
Speaker 2: it's absolutely idiotic. But why does it apply to X
Speaker 2: but it doesn't apply to YouTube?
Speaker 5: Absolute mystery to me, beater, and I'm with you. I
Speaker 5: think this is the wrong approach. I don't think you
Speaker 5: deal with this problem by banning anything for children. You
Speaker 5: deal with it by empowering parents by giving them the
Speaker 5: online tools which Google and Apple have got incidentally, but
Speaker 5: they're not releasing that will allow them to monitor their
Speaker 5: children's content and encourage their children to use their phones
Speaker 5: their phones responsibly. That's where this should be. It shouldn't
Speaker 5: be the government. But if you are going to introduce laws,
Speaker 5: don't have favorites. Don't start playing favorites. Or the whole
Speaker 5: thing looks like a stitch up. And I'd like to
Speaker 5: think there was a very good reason, maybe had some
Speaker 5: cast iron assurances or promises from YouTube, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: We just don't know.
Speaker 5: All this is being conducted in secret, like so much
Speaker 5: else that the government does in this year.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we know a YouTube is owned by Google
Speaker 2: and so extremely powerful. It pretty much controls the flow
Speaker 2: of information. If you want to do a search on
Speaker 2: any topic, what are you using? You're using Google, So
Speaker 2: I can understand why they wouldn't want to upset that goliath.
Speaker 2: Before you go, nick a landmark judgment in the UK,
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court there has ruled that a woman is
Speaker 2: a biological female and that when it legally men with
Speaker 2: gender certificates saying they are women, men who identify as women,
Speaker 2: well they're not women because a woman is a biological female.
Speaker 2: It's kind of sad that this needs to be stated
Speaker 2: in the Supreme Court, but it is an enormous victory
Speaker 2: women's rights advocates, including JK. Rowling, who celebrated the verdict,
Speaker 2: writing on x it took three extraordinary, tenacious Scottish women
Speaker 2: with an army behind them to get this case heard
Speaker 2: by the Supreme Court, and in winning they've protected the
Speaker 2: rights of women and girls across the UK. Nick so
Speaker 2: many women men also have been sacked, have been canceled,
Speaker 2: have been counseled because they've stated biological realities, they've refused
Speaker 2: to accept pronouns, or they've called a man a man,
Speaker 2: and this landmark ruling hopefully puts an end to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Court acted because they wanted to clear up
Speaker 5: all the absurdities and contradictions and clashes that were happening
Speaker 5: in legal cases in Britain. And you know what they've
Speaker 5: done is to show that transgender rights, if there's such
Speaker 5: a thing, own you go as far as women's rights,
Speaker 5: women's rights. In the end, women have the right to
Speaker 5: keep transgender men out of sport or any other forum
Speaker 5: if they so choose, and this case sets that up
Speaker 5: beautifully for them. In the UK, the Australian courts, the
Speaker 5: High Court here will have the chance to make a
Speaker 5: similar decision if it chooses to do so in the
Speaker 5: appeal over the Giggle versus Tigle case which is coming
Speaker 5: up and I understands later this year, and they're looking
Speaker 5: for clarification from the law that exactly the same thing
Speaker 5: that sex is sex men and women, and gender is
Speaker 5: quite something weird and constructed on top of that. So
Speaker 5: that's the decision we'll be looking for here. And I
Speaker 5: think with the debate going that way in the United
Speaker 5: States that the same way in Britain. Away from this stuff,
Speaker 5: away from this nonsense transgender rights argument, then I think
Speaker 5: we're going to look very very strange in this country
Speaker 5: if we don't also wake up and fix the law
Speaker 5: over this.
Speaker 3: Nikata, thanks for your time.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Victorian State Liberal MP Richard Reardon. Richard,
Speaker 2: the Victorian government's war against property investors is bearing fruit.
Speaker 3: Mum and Dad landlords are selling up.
Speaker 2: We're seeing the pool of rental properties diminish further and
Speaker 2: that's seeing rents increase. Data out Today's shows rents have
Speaker 2: spiked in the first quarter of twenty twenty five, particularly
Speaker 2: here in Melbourne, where rents have increased by around fifteen
Speaker 2: dollars a week on average. Richard, it's an increase that
Speaker 2: renters can ill afford in the current environment.
Speaker 6: Yes, Rita, thanks for the opportunity. It is crazy here
Speaker 6: in Victoria. Who'd have thought restricts supply and prices go up.
Speaker 6: We all know it. It's the most basic law of
Speaker 6: supplying demand. And here in Victoria, the Victorian government just
Speaker 6: believes that property property investors are people that provide a
Speaker 6: place for thirty to forty percent of the population to live,
Speaker 6: can just continue to be taxed and it's not going
Speaker 6: to have an effect. That's their view. But the market
Speaker 6: reality is, Rita, the more costs and charges you put
Speaker 6: on property owners, the more they have to charge in
Speaker 6: order to get a return on investment. Property has to
Speaker 6: stop being seen as a cash cow for the broke
Speaker 6: Victorian state government. And until that happens, the people the
Speaker 6: most vulnerable, those renting are going to continue to.
Speaker 2: Pay the price now, Richard, of course, we've seen land
Speaker 2: tax skyrocket in this state as well. The state government
Speaker 2: is certainly hooked on property taxes. A lot of mum
Speaker 2: and dad investors are selling up for that reason. Does
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party have a policy to address.
Speaker 6: That, well, Rita, we will absolutely have a policy that
Speaker 6: will be designed first and foremost to make housing more affordable,
Speaker 6: whether you're buying a home or renting a home when
Speaker 6: we go to the polls next November. The sad reality
Speaker 6: for us as a potential future well not only potential
Speaker 6: but hopefully the next government here in Victoria is we
Speaker 6: have two more budgets to get through before we have
Speaker 6: an opportunity to change government here in Victoria. Now, you'll
Speaker 6: recall anyone who was unfortunate enough to look at the
Speaker 6: budget last year, it was riddled with TVCs. Two be
Speaker 6: confirms we haven't seen an honest budget produced in Victoria
Speaker 6: for a long time. We've got another three or four
Speaker 6: weeks to see this year's budget. We fully expect TVCs
Speaker 6: and with all the uncertainty around the suburban rail loop investment,
Speaker 6: billions and billions potentially wasted and tied up. But Ultimately,
Speaker 6: the goal is we will need to present some hope
Speaker 6: and opportunity not only to property owners, but property renters
Speaker 6: and first home buyers, and that will have to come
Speaker 6: in part through a revamp and a rejig of our
Speaker 6: land tax system here in Victoria. But you know, the
Speaker 6: honest truth is it's going to be a heart slog.
Speaker 6: We can't put the finishing touches on our priorities for that.
Speaker 6: And do we have some understanding of what this budget's
Speaker 6: going to look like.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got the Victorian government pledging to build eight
Speaker 2: hundred thousand new homes in a ten year period between
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty thirty four. But Richard, that's
Speaker 2: already off to a shaky start. They're already behind the
Speaker 2: eight ball, and industry figures are saying that the state's
Speaker 2: rigid tax regime has a lot to do with that,
Speaker 2: and housing completions are actually now trending backwards.
Speaker 3: This is just a simple supply and demand issue.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, region We've got a
Speaker 2: lot of people coming into Victoria and we're not having
Speaker 2: a lot of houses built.
Speaker 6: No reader, we're not, and that's simply because bringing a
Speaker 6: block of land to market here in Victoria is just
Speaker 6: so cost prohibitive. The bulk of Victorians sit between a
Speaker 6: four hundred and eight hundred thousand dollars cap on their
Speaker 6: mortgage capacity to borrow and to take their first home
Speaker 6: sits roughly in that bandwidth of finance. This government has
Speaker 6: almost made it impossible. All the talk in recent months
Speaker 6: of changes to the twenty story towers and the activity
Speaker 6: zones and the new planning schemes basically cannot bring a
Speaker 6: house to market in Victoria, any sort of reasonable home
Speaker 6: for Victorians under.
Speaker 1: A million dollars.
Speaker 6: We are just pricing young Victorians out. And in fact,
Speaker 6: whether you're in Ballarat, Bendigo, Geelong, you name it, out
Speaker 6: of suburbs of Melbourne, every corner of Victoria now is
Speaker 6: taxed out of existence. When it comes to bringing affordable
Speaker 6: new homes a changing government next year, as I said
Speaker 6: earlier Rita, the focus has to be on safe, affordable,
Speaker 6: accessible homes that are practical and available for people. At
Speaker 6: the end of the day, we have to ask serious
Speaker 6: questions about what political dynamite this government is building in,
Speaker 6: whether it's the increase in taxes, whether it's the rules
Speaker 6: and regulations about energy efficiency and other things that are
Speaker 6: just not necessarily appropriate for homes here in Victoria, and
Speaker 6: as a result, the cost is embedded in and when
Speaker 6: it's nearly forty two percent of the cost of a
Speaker 6: new greenfield home here in Victoria is in taxes and charges,
Speaker 6: you know the state has a big role to play
Speaker 6: in helping make homes more affordable for everybody.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: They've just got to get out of the way, cut
Speaker 2: some of that regulation, the red tape, the green tape,
Speaker 2: the black tape, and make it attractive for developers to
Speaker 2: actually build properties that.
Speaker 3: People want to live in.
Speaker 2: Now you've done a bit of a detective work, Richard,
Speaker 2: You've done a bit of digging and uncovered that the
Speaker 2: till candidate for Wanen, Alex Dyson, has received seventy five
Speaker 2: percent of his money from just ten families, nine of
Speaker 2: them based in Sydney, including Simon Holmes a court Richard,
Speaker 2: Sydney is a long way from mornable.
Speaker 3: You're not wrong.
Speaker 6: The only solution I've got to this reader is I
Speaker 6: have a sneaking suspicion that these Sydney siders have confused
Speaker 6: Lizmore and Camper down in New South Wales with the
Speaker 6: beautiful townships of Lismore and camperdown.
Speaker 1: Here in want And.
Speaker 6: It doesn't make much sense that these people they don't
Speaker 6: even have a presence here. That the most the fabulously
Speaker 6: wealthy Simon Holmes of Court Reader, he has a property
Speaker 6: and probably has many here in He's probably got one
Speaker 6: in the CBD of Melbourne for business meetings and Climate
Speaker 6: two hundred gatherings. But he doesn't even have a property
Speaker 6: on our beautiful Great Ocean Road. Now I'd cut in
Speaker 6: some slack if he'd actually invested in our community, but
Speaker 6: he's not. Of course, he's not interested in our community.
Speaker 6: He just knows that our community here in One and
Speaker 6: Reader delivers thirty percent of the affordable gas into the
Speaker 6: market here in Victoria. We are the backbone of cheap
Speaker 6: gas in Victoria. From one we supply thirty percent of
Speaker 6: Australia's dairy product, our timber industry, all sorts of fabulous
Speaker 6: things come from gas production here in Wanten. And mister
Speaker 6: Holmes Accord and his nine other friends, including a vet
Speaker 6: from Sydney, they are held bent on shutting that down.
Speaker 6: And quite frankly, the voters of want And have only
Speaker 6: one choice backing the harbor Bridge brigade, and they're desire
Speaker 6: to shut half our industries down or back are local
Speaker 6: and that's the wonderful Dantean.
Speaker 3: Now before you go.
Speaker 2: The Herald Sun reported earlier this week that there is
Speaker 2: a plot by Liberal operatives to and Moradeeming's political career.
Speaker 2: Multiple candidates are going to be gearing up to challenge
Speaker 2: her for that number one position on the Western Metropolitan
Speaker 2: Upper House ticket. Richard, this is bewildering.
Speaker 3: She is one of the.
Speaker 2: Most popular, recognizable Liberals in this state. Why can't the
Speaker 2: Liberal Party just unite behind her instead of trying to
Speaker 2: undermine her position.
Speaker 6: Well, look, Rita, I think it's fair to say all
Speaker 6: organizations might have a rag tag rump about them that
Speaker 6: you don't want to fight, fight to fight, you don't
Speaker 6: need to have. Look, Moira has proven she's a tough campaigner.
Speaker 6: She's gone to helen back in recent times. We're sticking
Speaker 6: with her. She's been fantastic out in Werribee and the
Speaker 6: West of Melbourne. We all saw the wonderful result we
Speaker 6: got in the Weerribee by election, of which Moira was
Speaker 6: front and center of helping us get. I have no doubt.
Speaker 6: I have no doubt that if when push comes to
Speaker 6: shove sometime next year, if there's still some angry party
Speaker 6: member that wants to challenge a good luck to them,
Speaker 6: they won't have much of a chance. At the end
Speaker 6: of the day, all of us, as pre selected members
Speaker 6: can face a challenge. This just sounds like a bit
Speaker 6: of sour grapes that found its way into the paper.
Speaker 6: But I don't think too many of us will take
Speaker 6: it seriously, and we need Moira, like the rest of
Speaker 6: our team, out every day selling Brad Baton and putting
Speaker 6: the word forward that Victoria's got to change.
Speaker 3: Richard Riden, thanks for your time tonight. You're ready to
Speaker 3: take care still to come. Lefty is a losing ad class.
Speaker 2: New York Attorney General Letitia James, who promised to get.
Speaker 3: Trump, is under investigation herself. Sarah Gonzalez is up next
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now it's time for Lefty's losing it.
Speaker 2: And George Clooney was on CNN being interviewed by the
Speaker 2: fawning Jake Tapper. Clooney, sporting one of the worst die
Speaker 2: jobs in Hollywood history, is again lying and playing the hero,
Speaker 2: claiming that it was his civic duty to out Joe
Speaker 2: Biden for not being up to it and needing to
Speaker 2: step down.
Speaker 11: You yourself did something that a lot of people would
Speaker 11: call brave when you wrote your up out.
Speaker 3: Well, if it was brave, it was.
Speaker 12: It was a civic duty.
Speaker 13: When I saw people on my side of the street
Speaker 13: not telling the truth, I thought that was time to.
Speaker 1: People still mount it for that.
Speaker 13: Some people, sure, people criticized me.
Speaker 2: They criticized me because of my stance against the war
Speaker 2: twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: And some people picketed my movies and they put me
Speaker 3: on a deck of cards.
Speaker 13: And I, you know, and that's that's I have to
Speaker 13: take that.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 14: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with criticism for my
Speaker 14: you know, for where I stand.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm just marveling at that hair dye.
Speaker 2: I mean, how why no, we did cover this whole
Speaker 2: thing when he tried to rewrite history on sixty minutes
Speaker 2: a few weeks back. You know, George must think we're
Speaker 2: all suffering from Biden's cognitive decline, because, far from taking
Speaker 2: a principal stance and doing his civic duty, George Clooney
Speaker 2: was part of the Biden cover up. Not only did
Speaker 2: he hold a massive Hollywood fundraiser for Joe Biden. We
Speaker 2: all remember the President glitching and having to be assisted
Speaker 2: off the stage by Baraco Obama, And then we had
Speaker 2: the White House lie to us and say the videos
Speaker 2: of him being helped off stage were right wing disinformation.
Speaker 3: I remember all that, and I remember that George Clooney.
Speaker 2: George Clooney said nothing that all happened at his event.
Speaker 3: He didn't do his civic duty there.
Speaker 2: No, he waited weeks and weeks and weeks. Only after
Speaker 2: Biden had that disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Did George Clooney write that op ed? In fact, a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks after the debate.
Speaker 2: Now protests continue against the president. But don't bother asking
Speaker 2: any of these concerned citizens what they're exactly protesting about.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us about your sign today?
Speaker 3: By you the lawyer?
Speaker 1: Don't you thank you? What do you think is the
Speaker 1: biggest lie he's told?
Speaker 11: I think everything that comes out of his mouth is
Speaker 11: a lie.
Speaker 10: I think everything that he says she should leave the opposite.
Speaker 1: Any specific examples where do I even begin? Are you
Speaker 1: what do you? You can come and join? This is
Speaker 1: my son, Rever.
Speaker 10: What's a lie that Donald Trump is told?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like him.
Speaker 3: I've got no clothes. Now.
Speaker 2: I wonder what this next lass is talking about. Perhaps
Speaker 2: the Secret Service would care to have a word with her.
Speaker 4: They're not someone out there with the terminal illness that's
Speaker 4: willing to do it. I mean, I'm sure people are
Speaker 4: willing to help. If you're willing to do it. I
Speaker 4: think that there are people willing to help organize it.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: Remember when New York Attorney General, the woman who campaigned
Speaker 2: on a promise of getting Trump. Remember when Letitia James
Speaker 2: weaponized her office and conjured up absurd charges in order
Speaker 2: to get Trump.
Speaker 3: She claims, no one is above the law.
Speaker 1: Stand up.
Speaker 3: And enforce the rule of law.
Speaker 14: The President of these United States is not above the law.
Speaker 14: No matter how rich, powerful, or politically connected you are.
Speaker 14: Everyone must play by the same rules you are saying.
Speaker 15: The Federal Housing Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral
Speaker 15: to the DOJ, accusing James of mortgage fraud, and a
Speaker 15: letter to Attorney General Pam BONDI Director Bill Poulte says
Speaker 15: James appears to have falsified wrecords in order to meet
Speaker 15: certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms. He cited
Speaker 15: a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her
Speaker 15: principal residence.
Speaker 7: As a New York elected official, she had to say
Speaker 7: that her principal residence was in New York. This was
Speaker 7: an out of state residence. But also they claimed that
Speaker 7: in some of these forms, she actually states that her
Speaker 7: father is her husband in order to file as a
Speaker 7: married couple.
Speaker 2: Oh dear, looks like the comma bus has come for Letitia,
Speaker 2: and maybe she knew it was coming because what's here.
Speaker 2: At the National Action Network twenty twenty five convention early
Speaker 2: this month, she looks nervous.
Speaker 3: She's unraveling.
Speaker 1: My mission is clear.
Speaker 14: I'm focused, I'm prepared, I'm ready. I've been trained by
Speaker 14: the best. I went to Howard University. I'm not afraid
Speaker 14: of no President Donald Trump. We're ready for you. We're
Speaker 14: coming for you, We're standing up for you.
Speaker 3: We're fighting on. We're not going down.
Speaker 14: Sailing victory, my friends, is clear.
Speaker 1: It's now and.
Speaker 3: I'm not waiting four years. I'm waiting two.
Speaker 14: I tell us, speaker by the name of Hi King Jeffries.
Speaker 1: Comes to bring us.
Speaker 3: Some rest come on, ladies, it's up to us.
Speaker 14: We saved this democracy before, we'll save it now.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Johnny Meena is host of Sarah Gonzalez Unfiltered on BLISTAV
Speaker 2: and VP of Texas Family Project. Sarah, what can you
Speaker 2: tell me about the allegations against Letitia James.
Speaker 16: Well, you know, it's interesting, Rita, thanks for having me back,
Speaker 16: by the way, it's interesting. She was just screaming that
Speaker 16: she was focused, and I was watching her eyes and
Speaker 16: it didn't look like she was very focused at all.
Speaker 16: They were looking in two different directions. But what I
Speaker 16: can tell you about her allegations are that these democrats
Speaker 16: here in this country. I don't know if it's like
Speaker 16: this for you guys over there, but in our country,
Speaker 16: the democrats who are accusing Republicans of crimes are the
Speaker 16: ones who are committing the crimes. They are projecting their
Speaker 16: crimes every single time they project their crimes onto us.
Speaker 16: And so you had Letitia James, an Attorney General of
Speaker 16: New York, who was accusing Donald Trump of civil fraud
Speaker 16: for misrepresenting how much he was worth. And then Letitia
Speaker 16: James herself gets accused of misrepresent for a loan and
Speaker 16: Apparently she was the Attorney General of New York and
Speaker 16: she was telling the loan company that she her primary
Speaker 16: residence was going to be in a completely different steat.
Speaker 11: You can't do that when you're the Attorney General of
Speaker 11: New York. So I'm going to say she's.
Speaker 16: Sunk on this one, and it couldn't happen to a
Speaker 16: more deserting person.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 2: There's even reports that she'd claimed in the loone documents
Speaker 2: to have been married to her father to get a
Speaker 2: better interest rate.
Speaker 3: I mean, the.
Speaker 2: Full allegations here are something else. But of course the
Speaker 2: leftist media is treating this like some sort of political persecution.
Speaker 2: Even the headlines are misleading. Have a look at that one,
Speaker 2: making it look like they're targeting Democrats, But really they're
Speaker 2: targeting alleged fraud here, and unlike Leticia James, they're not
Speaker 2: trying to create cases out of thin air. I mean,
Speaker 2: her case against Donald Trump was just really out there.
Speaker 2: Now we know with the Trump administration, big part of
Speaker 2: their campaign was to restore the integrity of institutions that
Speaker 2: have become hopelessly politicized. That was an election issue. You know,
Speaker 2: trust in these institutions is at record low. And one
Speaker 2: of the examples, Sarah, is that we still know so
Speaker 2: very little about the assassination attempts against President Trump.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even know what's happened.
Speaker 10: They're all saying it was like a couple of nutjobs.
Speaker 11: Do you believe that, I don't know, you know.
Speaker 10: The one person at eighteen telephones. I have a lot
Speaker 10: of funds, but that's like three yeah, and they're made
Speaker 10: for special reasons. I don't know what to believe. I'll
Speaker 10: be honest. It has not been explained to me perfectly
Speaker 10: by other secret service or the FBI. We have somebody,
Speaker 10: two good people running that and I would like to
Speaker 10: hear the explanation, even if it's not released in the public,
Speaker 10: I should be allowed to.
Speaker 2: Hear it came in, Sarah, What is happening with these investigations?
Speaker 3: Heck? Can we know so little after all this time?
Speaker 16: Well, I mean, Rita, I think the answer is clear,
Speaker 16: because the answer they don't want to become public, so
Speaker 16: they bury it.
Speaker 11: I mean, when this first.
Speaker 16: Assassination attempt came out and we had this loan shooter,
Speaker 16: this young man didn't have very many friends, went to
Speaker 16: a gun range where we knew that government officials frequented
Speaker 16: coincidentally enough, and you heard his story, and you heard
Speaker 16: that he had these encrypted accounts on his phone, and
Speaker 16: you heard and then all of a sudden you heard
Speaker 16: nothing else. He was connected to all of these foreign accounts,
Speaker 16: and nothing else about it. And so the problem here, Rita,
Speaker 16: is that we are dealing with a deep state bureaucracy
Speaker 16: where the rot just goes so far deep. And unfortunately,
Speaker 16: in this country, we have an election in November, and
Speaker 16: then we have the rest of November, we have December,
Speaker 16: and then we have the better part of January, where
Speaker 16: all of these deep state actors can do whatever they
Speaker 16: want to clean stuff up. And so I fear that
Speaker 16: we never will get the full truth of this man.
Speaker 16: But I mean, you mean to tell me these same
Speaker 16: government officials who could track who was in Washington, d C.
Speaker 16: On January sixth, twenty twenty one, who was even in
Speaker 16: the vicinity of Washington, d C. On that day, couldn't
Speaker 16: actually find any more information out about either of these
Speaker 16: assassination attempts. I don't buy it, Rita, and neither does
Speaker 16: the rest of America.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why trust in these institutions has plummeted, because
Speaker 2: some of This stuff beggars belief. We've seen the rise
Speaker 2: of leftist violence across the US for a number of years,
Speaker 2: and some of these attacks are even impacting Democrats.
Speaker 3: The Governor of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro's home was attacked, and the suspect, who has
Speaker 2: said he planned to use a hammer to bait the
Speaker 2: governor if he encountered him his admitted this attack was
Speaker 2: motivated by Shapiro's stance on Palestine. Sarah, what else can
Speaker 2: you tell me about this asilent?
Speaker 16: Well, I mean, rita, show me a violent radical and
Speaker 16: show me a Democrat, because they are one and the same.
Speaker 16: These days, it's every single time you have these assailants
Speaker 16: who are motivated because the Democrats have gone out and
Speaker 16: they have intentionally riled people up. They tell people to
Speaker 16: take to the streets, they tell people to get up
Speaker 16: in Trump voters' faces, they tell people to get violent.
Speaker 16: And no one should be shocked that all of these
Speaker 16: radicals who are listening to the likes of Jasmine Crockett
Speaker 16: and AOC and all of these leftist leaders, we shouldn't
Speaker 16: be shocked that they are actually following through with this.
Speaker 16: I mean, we have in this country record levels of
Speaker 16: anti Semitic tone, of anti Semitic rhetoric, and you have
Speaker 16: unfortunately too many useful idiots in this country who are
Speaker 16: listening to it, who are amped up by the rhetoric,
Speaker 16: and they're moved to quote do something even though it's
Speaker 16: of course the wrong thing to do. And so, of
Speaker 16: course we have personal accountability that needs to be had
Speaker 16: in this particular situation. But there are just four too
Speaker 16: many people in this country who are quite comfortable going
Speaker 16: out and saying, you know, saying and then acting upon
Speaker 16: very very violent rhetoric, and you know, personal accountability, sure,
Speaker 16: but I would say that the Democrats rhetoric has a
Speaker 16: lot to do with the rise and the uptick in
Speaker 16: this violence.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And they've normalized this anti semitism. Shapiro should
Speaker 2: have been the VP candidate for Kamala Harris, but because
Speaker 2: he's Jewish, because his pro Israel served in the IDF,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to go there, and they put up
Speaker 2: Tim Walls, possibly the worst VP candidate in history. But
Speaker 2: that just shows you how deep the anti Semitism is
Speaker 2: running in the American left.
Speaker 3: It's not on the fringes anymore.
Speaker 2: The Democrats have also become preoccupied with Trump's deportation strategy,
Speaker 2: something that is actually very popular, and even the deportation
Speaker 2: of gang bangers to El Salvador is causing them concerns.
Speaker 2: They're particularly focused on one case, an illegal immigrant from
Speaker 2: l Salvador, an MS thirteen gang member who is right
Speaker 2: now sitting in a mega prison in El Salvador, but
Speaker 2: Democrat Chris van Holland is determined to bring him home.
Speaker 11: I'm here at the airport.
Speaker 13: I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador. The
Speaker 13: goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration
Speaker 13: to let the government of Al Salvador know that we
Speaker 13: are going to keep fighting to bring Albrego Garcia home.
Speaker 3: Well, I would have thought he was already home. He's
Speaker 3: from El Salvador, Sarah.
Speaker 2: He's in El Salvador now, Chris van Holland, But this
Speaker 2: man who voted against the Lake and Riley Act, he's
Speaker 2: not having much luck getting access to this prisoner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Who would have thought that you could come to El
Speaker 16: Salvador totally unannounced and show up and knock on the
Speaker 16: door and say, Hey, Bouklee, could you please let me
Speaker 16: into your super max facility. I'd really like to talk
Speaker 16: to one of these prisoners. This guy knew exactly what
Speaker 16: he was doing. It was a total political stunt for
Speaker 16: optics and for attention. And I would just also like
Speaker 16: to point out he did vote against the Lake and
Speaker 16: Riley Act. He also has yet to utter the word
Speaker 16: the name Rachel Morin, who is a woman from Marylyn
Speaker 16: who was beat to death by an illegal immigrant. She
Speaker 16: was beat to death so badly that her mother said
Speaker 16: that all of the law enforcement had to shield these
Speaker 16: pictures from her family because it was so graphic and
Speaker 16: so horrific. Interestingly enough, that man never uttered the word
Speaker 16: Rachel morn or the name Rachel Morin in his entire career,
Speaker 16: and yet wants.
Speaker 11: To go out on a limb for these illegal criminals.
Speaker 16: Look, I would encourage all of these Democrats to continue
Speaker 16: trying to trying to lift up all of these illegals
Speaker 16: that Americans voted in November and said we are tired
Speaker 16: of this, We want these people to go home. And
Speaker 16: I would just like to add President Trump is still
Speaker 16: waiting for a thank you from this man for sending
Speaker 16: him on a free trip back to his home country.
Speaker 16: You're welcome, kilmar Abrigo Garcia, And also You're welcome America.
Speaker 3: Now, Sarah.
Speaker 2: The Trump administration, Steven Miller has pled with the media
Speaker 2: to care as much about Americans killed by illegal immigrants
Speaker 2: as they care about illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: There's fifteen million legally aliens a bile edge of the country.
Speaker 16: If every one of them got the trial that you're
Speaker 16: asking for, it would take US centuries to remove them centuries.
Speaker 3: And that's the point here.
Speaker 2: If they to observe all these legal challenges, the entire
Speaker 2: deportation program is undermined and becomes unworkable.
Speaker 3: And it seems like.
Speaker 2: That is the plan that the Democrats have got it underway.
Speaker 2: They want to make these too difficult to execute.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would completely agree with that.
Speaker 16: I mean, you have these people who so my argument
Speaker 16: would be that the Constitution was meant for American citizens,
Speaker 16: and so therefore due process was meant for American citizens.
Speaker 16: And if you come into this country and you commit crimes,
Speaker 16: you are not afforded due process. You can be removed
Speaker 16: and deported at any time. There is no court hearing
Speaker 16: that should be necessary for America to keep ourselves safe.
Speaker 16: But on top of that, you have these illegal criminals
Speaker 16: who should not have been here in the first place,
Speaker 16: like the Kilmar Abrego Garcia who we just referenced, who
Speaker 16: just now we find out today from the Department of
Speaker 16: Homeland Security he had a restraining order from his wife
Speaker 16: several years ago from beating her, from grabbing her, from
Speaker 16: bruising her, from ripping her shirt off.
Speaker 11: These are not good people, and.
Speaker 16: The fact that the Democrats want to go above and
Speaker 16: beyond to continue to bring them back into our country
Speaker 16: is quite frankly treasonous behavior in my opinion. They are
Speaker 16: working day in and day out to make America less safe,
Speaker 16: and they're bragging about it in the mainstream media. The
Speaker 16: fact that these people have so little self awareness that
Speaker 16: they think that this is going to play well in
Speaker 16: front of the American people, who again just voted and
Speaker 16: said we are done with this open border's lawlessness. We
Speaker 16: need safety, we need security, and we need President Trump.
Speaker 16: It is not going to play out well in front
Speaker 16: of the American people.
Speaker 3: No, they're slow learners.
Speaker 2: The media gives them a very good run, indeed, because
Speaker 2: the media is on the.
Speaker 3: Same page as they are.
Speaker 2: But for the great majority of Americans, the more the
Speaker 2: Democrats talk about this issue, the more they know that
Speaker 2: they can't be trusted in government. If you can't protect
Speaker 2: a country's borders, then you are not fit for office.
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to play you some footage.
Speaker 3: Year.
Speaker 2: This is a footage a distraught father took of his
Speaker 2: three year old during their daily walk in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: This is their neighborhood.
Speaker 2: They just come back from two weeks away, and this
Speaker 2: is what greeted them on their doorstep. The father said,
Speaker 2: our politicians are not serious people. Lock these drug dealers
Speaker 2: up and mandate jail or rehab. Now, Sarah, that poor
Speaker 2: kid witnessing those scenes. It is disturbing. But as the
Speaker 2: father explained, this is outside their door. If they want
Speaker 2: to go outside and go for a walk, this is
Speaker 2: what confronts them. And we are seeing that just not
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, but so many of these blue cities
Speaker 2: where they have this very permissive attitude to drug use.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned.
Speaker 16: The correlation there is that these are all blue cities.
Speaker 16: These are all Democrat run cities. Not just for the
Speaker 16: last several years, but for the last several decades. These
Speaker 16: places have been run by Democrats, and this is the
Speaker 16: end result of Democrat policies. A little girl, three years old,
Speaker 16: who has no business watching what's in front of her,
Speaker 16: seeing all of these drug users right in front of her, horrific,
Speaker 16: just stealing her innocence because of Democrat policies to go
Speaker 16: easy on drug use, on homelessness, on crime, on all
Speaker 16: of it. Now, my hope is that this father, of
Speaker 16: course I don't know him, I don't know how he voted,
Speaker 16: but oftentimes these people who live in these blue cities
Speaker 16: are voting for the very same policies that got them
Speaker 16: into the mess in the first place. And so my
Speaker 16: hope is that that father will at least acknowledge and
Speaker 16: understand the error of San Francisco's ways and do what
Speaker 16: he can to stop it, or bare minimum get his daughter,
Speaker 16: pack her up and get her the hell out of
Speaker 16: San Francisco before it's too late.
Speaker 2: But don't move to a state like Texas and then
Speaker 2: vote for the very same policies that have seen San
Speaker 2: Francisco reduced to that.
Speaker 3: That's part of the prob world.
Speaker 2: Because sometimes, yes, Texas is full. Yeah, Well, if you're
Speaker 2: going to come from California, I think you know they
Speaker 2: should be perhaps ten years when you're not allowed to vote,
Speaker 2: just until you understand perhaps why Texas works in California
Speaker 2: is a mess, Sarah Gonzalez, Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 11: Thank you still to come.
Speaker 2: Alon mask embroiled in yet another Baby Mama scandal.
Speaker 3: Kinseysco Field has the latest.
Speaker 2: You're watching the reader Panny's show, Joining Me now a
Speaker 2: celebrity and royal reporter Kinsey Schofield.
Speaker 3: Kinsey's sources close.
Speaker 2: To Justin Bieber are becoming increasingly concerned for his mental
Speaker 2: health as they watch him disintegrate. A former colleague claims
Speaker 2: that Biber is lost and there's no one protecting him.
Speaker 2: There's no one there willing to say no to him.
Speaker 2: You say no, you get blown out.
Speaker 3: What's happening with him? Because I thought he was on
Speaker 3: the right track.
Speaker 2: He seemed to have found God and was living a
Speaker 2: more wholesome life. Maybe that didn't last long, But I've
Speaker 2: seen some recent clips and he's a mess.
Speaker 12: He really is.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: When I used to hang out with him, there were
Speaker 8: always issues with his mother. I remember them getting into
Speaker 8: a big fight back stag in an award show because
Speaker 8: he was angry that she had written a book about
Speaker 8: their life and them and he really felt like it
Speaker 8: was a violation of their relationship. A part of me
Speaker 8: wonders if it's the new baby in his life, if
Speaker 8: he's feeling all of these things about his past now
Speaker 8: that he's a father. He was abandoned by his dad
Speaker 8: at a young age. I don't know, or is it
Speaker 8: Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. It just feels like he's
Speaker 8: dealing with a lot of stuff right now and it's
Speaker 8: not manifesting in a very appropriate way.
Speaker 2: No, and if he pushes away anybody who tries to
Speaker 2: be honest with him about how he's unraveling, it's hard
Speaker 2: to see how he's going to.
Speaker 3: Snap out of this. We hearing anything from his wife.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone who is doing something to address these behaviors?
Speaker 8: You know, Haley is trying to fight online bullies. I mean,
Speaker 8: that's really been her priority. There's been a lot of
Speaker 8: story circulating about their relationship, and I think.
Speaker 12: That she's kind of fixated.
Speaker 8: On her own brand, similar to somebody we talk about
Speaker 8: quite often on this program, Megan Markle. But I do
Speaker 8: hope that if Bieber's in a bad place, he gets
Speaker 8: some help.
Speaker 12: Of course, he slammed these reports, but you do. When
Speaker 12: you're in Hollywood, you surround yourself by yes. People.
Speaker 2: Now, Elon Musk, we know he has many, many children. Now,
Speaker 2: there's rumors that is offered to impregnate right wing influencer
Speaker 2: Tiffany Fong and then retaliated by slashing her ex earnings
Speaker 2: when she refused. What can you tell me about these allegations.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I believe this story.
Speaker 12: My goodness, can you believe this now?
Speaker 8: Phone claims that once she got on his radar and
Speaker 8: he became interested in her, she made approximately twenty thousand
Speaker 8: dollars a month through Twitter's influencer and said to program,
Speaker 8: but when he cut wind that she was gossiping with Ashley,
Speaker 8: with Ashley the other baby mama, he cut her reach
Speaker 8: on Twitter and the money drad up.
Speaker 12: I'm with you.
Speaker 8: I don't know where the truth begins and where the
Speaker 8: gossip starts. But if she's anything like Ashley, then there
Speaker 8: are receipts and we will likely see them at one point.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised if you've got these stories, there's not ample
Speaker 2: evidence to back them up.
Speaker 3: Text messages, voice messages.
Speaker 2: Whatever else, however else you've communicated and talking about Ashley Sinclair,
Speaker 2: the mother of Mask's fourteenth child, fourteenth we know about.
Speaker 2: She's made some more bombshell claims. She says she turned
Speaker 2: down fifteen million dollars from Elon Musk to conceal the
Speaker 2: fact that he is the father of her child. She
Speaker 2: didn't want the newborn to feel like he's a sacred
Speaker 2: and Saint Clairsa revealed her son's name for the first time.
Speaker 2: It's a rumorleous Saint Clair.
Speaker 8: I mean, when is this guy going to stop naming
Speaker 8: his children after Wi Fi passwords? My mind is blown
Speaker 8: every time I hear one of these new names.
Speaker 12: But you're right. The Wall Street Journal story, one of
Speaker 12: the craziest parts.
Speaker 8: To me was that he has at least fourteen children
Speaker 8: with four women, But sources close to Elon told the
Speaker 8: journal that the true number of his children is much
Speaker 8: higher than publicly known. He also, and again we talked
Speaker 8: about those receipts Ashley Saint Clair showed the Wall Street
Speaker 8: Journal some text messages that Elon sent her, where he said,
Speaker 8: to reach legion level, that's how many children he wants
Speaker 8: Legion level before the apocalypse, we will need to use sarrogates.
Speaker 12: That's what one of the text messages read.
Speaker 8: Suggesting that he wants to continue pro creator for his legion.
Speaker 2: Well, if he's got this many children, I mean, even
Speaker 2: if it's just fourteen, just fourteen, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 2: saying that he's always seems to be with one. He's
Speaker 2: always with little X. I can imagine the others would
Speaker 2: be a little bit jealous of the attention X is getting.
Speaker 3: Above all others are disus.
Speaker 2: Really, this is the stuff that we're going to see
Speaker 2: movies and all sorts of books written about down the track. Now,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Gail King. She's expressed
Speaker 2: her displeasure those calling her trip on Jeff Bezos's Blue
Speaker 2: Origin spacecraft a space ride.
Speaker 3: She finds that very offensive.
Speaker 2: She says it's not a ride because they never say
Speaker 2: men went.
Speaker 3: For a ride.
Speaker 2: She's trying to bring in sexism and misogyny into people
Speaker 2: who are arguing this was just a frivolous exercise. They're
Speaker 2: not astronauts, and let's not pretend end this little stunt
Speaker 2: is going to bring about world peace.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, whether or not it's a space rate, I think
Speaker 8: it's irrelevant. The real question is whether it's a conflict
Speaker 8: of interest, and that estrogen enema that we saw launch
Speaker 8: into the sky cost a regular person like you or
Speaker 8: I three hundred thousand dollars, and people want to know
Speaker 8: if King broke her employer, CBS's rules by accepting gifts
Speaker 8: for good coverage in the process of this ego trip.
Speaker 12: I'm much more interested in that.
Speaker 8: This feels like Gail trying to distract from the real issue,
Speaker 8: and that's whether or not this was morally corrupt.
Speaker 2: Well, I just can't believe the carry on, Kinsey. These
Speaker 2: women have put on such a performance afterwards.
Speaker 3: I think no one would have.
Speaker 2: Been critical if they did this and they shared their experience.
Speaker 2: But every single one that I've seen, whether it's Laura Sanchez,
Speaker 2: whether it's Katie Perry or Gail King, has tried to
Speaker 2: paint this stunt as some welld changing significant event, not
Speaker 2: just for womanhood but for mankind. And it's just so
Speaker 2: self delighted, so divorced from reality, it's hard.
Speaker 3: Not to mock it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's not a space ride, maybe
Speaker 8: it's just an ego trip.
Speaker 12: At the end of the day, it's an ego trip.
Speaker 2: Ego trip exactly exactly, Kinsey Schofield, You've nailed it there,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's
Speaker 2: it from May.
Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: For Left, he's losing it at nine pm up next
Speaker 2: it's Newsnight.