1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scorn lives Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Good evening, Anne, Welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: up tonight, a massive program. Nikata will be here shortly 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: to cover the day's top headlines. Sarah Gonzales will have 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: the latest from the US A liberal MP Richard Redan 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: on the curious funding sources of some TiAl candidates, and 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: later in the Alkins's Schofield will be here with all 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: these celebrity and world news you care about but pretend 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: not to. 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: And Left is losing it features this charmer. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: So not someone out there with the terminal illness that's 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: willing to do it. I mean, I'm sure people are 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: willing to help if you're willing to do it. 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: But first, Anthony Albernezi faced off against the opposition leader 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: last night in the second prime minister's debate of the campaign, 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: this time hosted by the ABC, and the Prime Minister 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: was caught out in a lie when he was challenged 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: by Peter Dutton. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 5: I have been very clear about what our position is 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: and why that is the case. Was it modeled. It 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 5: certainly wasn't commissioned by us. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 6: To do so. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 7: It was modeled by the government was public it's publicly 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 7: available that this Prime Minister has a problem with the truth. 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: And yes, the Prime Minister did in fact contradict previous 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: remarks from his own Treasurer, Jim Chalmers, who had this 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: to say in September last year. 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 8: It is not. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 9: Unusual at all for governments or for treasurers to get 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 9: advice on contentious issues which are in the public domain, 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 9: including in the Parliament. It is not unusual for treasurers 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 9: to do that. 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: You know, the Prime Minister does have an interesting relationship 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: with the truth. Remember when he claimed on the ABC 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: just a few weeks ago that this. 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't a fall. Why Albora, I mean everyone has falls. Well, 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: now he's saying. 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: That his government never requested modeling from treasurer on negative 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: gearing and capital gains reforms, even though Jim Chalmers has 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: already admitted that they did. 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this. 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: As senior fellow of the mensi's Research Center, Nikkaita Nick, 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: why not just come clean about this. We know where 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Labours stand on this issue. We know there's great debate 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: within their ranks about these measures. Why not just be 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: honest about and say we did some modeling, We're not 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: going down that road. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: Be far better than trying to bluff your way through 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: by lying, which is what the Prime Minister tried to 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: do yesterday. I mean in the same debate. Actually, Peter 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 5: dunn't apologized for saying something that he now thought regretted 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 5: over Indonesia ant the Albanes. He should have done the 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: same then he should do it now. But there's a 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: long long list of this. You've already mentioned the falling 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: off the stage incident. Also recently, remember Rita Anti Ambinez. 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: He said that they had not Labor Party had not 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: missioned the modeling, the repute modeling, which came back and 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: said everybody was going to get a two hundred and 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 5: seventy five dollars cut off their electricity bill. 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: And you go. 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: Back to the transcript three years ago. Is absolutely proud 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: of the fact that they've commissioned this piece of research, 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: which was the finest piece of research ever done by 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: an opposition since federation. Now he's telling us we had 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: nothing to do with it. 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, they walked back from that position very quickly. They 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: disavowed that modeling very quickly. Indeed, now you've written a 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: fantastic piece in the Australian newspaper about Labour's self image 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: as a friend of the marginalized and dispossessed. 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: You say that has become. 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: A cruel joke, and you make the argument Nick that 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: low and middle income households have really suffered far worse 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: from rising inflation than twenty three months of negative per 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: capita growth. Is Labor still the party of the working 75 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: class in Australia? 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 10: All? 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely not? Reader in fat I was in Shell Harbor 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: yesterday in the seed of Whitlam talking to some people. 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: They're talking to a woman whose parents were both drug 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: addicts and she'd been thrown out. Just typical poor sort 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: of person you'd expect Labor that. I thought she wasn't 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: having a bar of labor. She was going to vote 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: for the Liberal candidate, you know. And this is what 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 5: I'm finding all the time. You won't, of course read 85 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 5: this in the Guardian or the Cidney Morning Herald, because 86 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: those people never get out further than Strathfield, even if 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: they get that far. But you don't have to go 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: far into the into the outer suburbs to see what 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 5: twelve mortgage rate increases does to people who are really 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: trying to bring up a family working and you know, 91 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 5: I've seen them come out with very sad supermarket market 92 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 5: trolleys of bread, potatoes and sausages and a bit of 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 5: toilet paper and that's it. You know, it is tragic. 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: And of course this is not being reported, which is 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: why so many in the smarter mainstream media are trying 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: to tell us this is going to be a great 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: alban easy triumph. I promise you it won't be. And 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 5: Labour's going to take a big, big hit in what 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: was once it's heartland. 100 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, they're certainly bleeding support in the outer suburbs. You 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: noted that in your peace out of suburbs of Melbourne 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: and Sydney and beyond. 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: But not all those votes are going to the coalition, Nick, 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: Why is that? Why the coalition. 105 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: Failing to capture those disaffected voters. 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: Well, this is a big problem. I mean it's kind 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: of understandable if you take a seat like Whitlam or weare, 108 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: which have always been labor, you know, and if your 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: family has always voted labor and your grandparents all voted labor. Yeah, 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: it's a bit of a big step to make. At 111 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: once fell swoop and I understand. You know, in the past, 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: people would vote one nation and we used to call 113 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 5: them one nation a gateway drug to voting liberal. But 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that's going to happen now. I 115 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: think that they really there's really a lot of great 116 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: deal of suspicion of both major parties. They're going to 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: have to earn that trust back. It's going to be 118 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 5: very hard. They won't be able to do it in 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 5: one election, but they've really got to try, because we're 120 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: talking in some of these seats fifteen sixteen seventeen percent 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: of the vote conservative vote going to conservative independence, not 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: to the Liberal Party. And if they want to govern, 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: then clearly they've got to change that. 124 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: And we've seen the coalitions vote dive as well in 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: recent polling, and that's votes on the right that they're 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: losing again to the minor parties. 127 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: Why is that vote fracturing. 128 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: On the right flank of the Liberal Party? Is just 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: because their policies appear too similar to Labor? Is it 130 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: because they're refusing to walk away from the Paris Steel. 131 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm wondering why when we've got such a left leaning 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: federal government, we've got so many on the right who 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: are not happy with the coalition. 134 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: I suspect it's because the Liberal Party try and pull 135 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: their punches a bit. They know they want to try 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: and win back some of the Teal seats and they 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: know that some of the things that ordinary people would 138 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 5: think was quite normal would go down very badly in 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: those TiAl seats. So this is the eternal dilemma for them. 140 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that their future clearly does not 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: lie in Wentworth and Couyon. It lies out in those 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: places like Banks like Chris Bowen, Seed McMahon Whitnam, and 143 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: in Victorian in seats like Corwell for instance, in the 144 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: northern suburbs of Melbourne, and that's where they have to 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: really start building their base. They have to be able 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: to win elections without any of those Teal seats, and 147 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: they'll do that by giving a very clear message, as 148 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: clear as the one that Peter Dutton gave in the 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: voice referendum. 150 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: You know what, I wish you were advising the opposition leader, 151 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: because I think you're one hundred percent right. I think 152 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: this desperation to claw back some of those Till seats 153 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: could cost the election because they have again compromised on 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: their messaging on their policies, on who they are and 155 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: what they stand for, and the electorate I think, is 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: going to be reluctant to throw out a first term 157 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: government without an opposition that is absolutely clear in what 158 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: its values are and what its policies are. They're just 159 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: too much same same for the average voter who's not 160 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: all that politically engaged. Now, let's talk about revelations from 161 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: documents obtained under freedom of information laws by Bloomberg showing 162 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: that the Albanezi government, through Communications Minister Michelle Roland, gave 163 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: YouTube's CEO Neil Mohan a guarantee last year that his 164 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: platform would be exempt from Australia's ban on social media 165 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: for youngsters before the government. And they made this assurance 166 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 2: nick before the government had even decided which platforms would 167 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: be covered. 168 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: YouTube has war. 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: Foid being part of this ban, and if we're trusting 170 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: the word of the Safety Commissioner, YouTube is the most 171 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: popular online platform for youngsters, so why are they exempt? 172 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: For the record, I'm against this entire ban. I think 173 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: it's absolutely idiotic. But why does it apply to X 174 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: but it doesn't apply to YouTube? 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 5: Absolute mystery to me, beater, and I'm with you. I 176 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 5: think this is the wrong approach. I don't think you 177 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 5: deal with this problem by banning anything for children. You 178 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: deal with it by empowering parents by giving them the 179 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: online tools which Google and Apple have got incidentally, but 180 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 5: they're not releasing that will allow them to monitor their 181 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 5: children's content and encourage their children to use their phones 182 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: their phones responsibly. That's where this should be. It shouldn't 183 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: be the government. But if you are going to introduce laws, 184 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 5: don't have favorites. Don't start playing favorites. Or the whole 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: thing looks like a stitch up. And I'd like to 186 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: think there was a very good reason, maybe had some 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: cast iron assurances or promises from YouTube, But I don't know. 188 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: We just don't know. 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 5: All this is being conducted in secret, like so much 190 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: else that the government does in this year. 191 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and we know a YouTube is owned by Google 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: and so extremely powerful. It pretty much controls the flow 193 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: of information. If you want to do a search on 194 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: any topic, what are you using? You're using Google, So 195 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: I can understand why they wouldn't want to upset that goliath. 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Before you go, nick a landmark judgment in the UK, 197 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court there has ruled that a woman is 198 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: a biological female and that when it legally men with 199 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: gender certificates saying they are women, men who identify as women, 200 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: well they're not women because a woman is a biological female. 201 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: It's kind of sad that this needs to be stated 202 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: in the Supreme Court, but it is an enormous victory 203 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: women's rights advocates, including JK. Rowling, who celebrated the verdict, 204 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: writing on x it took three extraordinary, tenacious Scottish women 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: with an army behind them to get this case heard 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: by the Supreme Court, and in winning they've protected the 207 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: rights of women and girls across the UK. Nick so 208 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: many women men also have been sacked, have been canceled, 209 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: have been counseled because they've stated biological realities, they've refused 210 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: to accept pronouns, or they've called a man a man, 211 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: and this landmark ruling hopefully puts an end to that. 212 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Court acted because they wanted to clear up 213 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: all the absurdities and contradictions and clashes that were happening 214 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: in legal cases in Britain. And you know what they've 215 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: done is to show that transgender rights, if there's such 216 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: a thing, own you go as far as women's rights, 217 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 5: women's rights. In the end, women have the right to 218 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: keep transgender men out of sport or any other forum 219 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: if they so choose, and this case sets that up 220 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 5: beautifully for them. In the UK, the Australian courts, the 221 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: High Court here will have the chance to make a 222 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 5: similar decision if it chooses to do so in the 223 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: appeal over the Giggle versus Tigle case which is coming 224 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: up and I understands later this year, and they're looking 225 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 5: for clarification from the law that exactly the same thing 226 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 5: that sex is sex men and women, and gender is 227 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: quite something weird and constructed on top of that. So 228 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: that's the decision we'll be looking for here. And I 229 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 5: think with the debate going that way in the United 230 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 5: States that the same way in Britain. Away from this stuff, 231 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: away from this nonsense transgender rights argument, then I think 232 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: we're going to look very very strange in this country 233 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: if we don't also wake up and fix the law 234 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: over this. 235 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: Nikata, thanks for your time. 236 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Victorian State Liberal MP Richard Reardon. Richard, 237 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: the Victorian government's war against property investors is bearing fruit. 238 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: Mum and Dad landlords are selling up. 239 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: We're seeing the pool of rental properties diminish further and 240 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: that's seeing rents increase. Data out Today's shows rents have 241 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: spiked in the first quarter of twenty twenty five, particularly 242 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: here in Melbourne, where rents have increased by around fifteen 243 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: dollars a week on average. Richard, it's an increase that 244 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,359 Speaker 2: renters can ill afford in the current environment. 245 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 6: Yes, Rita, thanks for the opportunity. It is crazy here 246 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 6: in Victoria. Who'd have thought restricts supply and prices go up. 247 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 6: We all know it. It's the most basic law of 248 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 6: supplying demand. And here in Victoria, the Victorian government just 249 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 6: believes that property property investors are people that provide a 250 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 6: place for thirty to forty percent of the population to live, 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 6: can just continue to be taxed and it's not going 252 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: to have an effect. That's their view. But the market 253 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: reality is, Rita, the more costs and charges you put 254 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 6: on property owners, the more they have to charge in 255 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 6: order to get a return on investment. Property has to 256 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 6: stop being seen as a cash cow for the broke 257 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 6: Victorian state government. And until that happens, the people the 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 6: most vulnerable, those renting are going to continue to. 259 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: Pay the price now, Richard, of course, we've seen land 260 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: tax skyrocket in this state as well. The state government 261 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: is certainly hooked on property taxes. A lot of mum 262 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: and dad investors are selling up for that reason. Does 263 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party have a policy to address. 264 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: That, well, Rita, we will absolutely have a policy that 265 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 6: will be designed first and foremost to make housing more affordable, 266 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 6: whether you're buying a home or renting a home when 267 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 6: we go to the polls next November. The sad reality 268 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 6: for us as a potential future well not only potential 269 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 6: but hopefully the next government here in Victoria is we 270 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: have two more budgets to get through before we have 271 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: an opportunity to change government here in Victoria. Now, you'll 272 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: recall anyone who was unfortunate enough to look at the 273 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 6: budget last year, it was riddled with TVCs. Two be 274 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: confirms we haven't seen an honest budget produced in Victoria 275 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 6: for a long time. We've got another three or four 276 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 6: weeks to see this year's budget. We fully expect TVCs 277 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: and with all the uncertainty around the suburban rail loop investment, 278 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: billions and billions potentially wasted and tied up. But Ultimately, 279 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 6: the goal is we will need to present some hope 280 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 6: and opportunity not only to property owners, but property renters 281 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 6: and first home buyers, and that will have to come 282 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 6: in part through a revamp and a rejig of our 283 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 6: land tax system here in Victoria. But you know, the 284 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 6: honest truth is it's going to be a heart slog. 285 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: We can't put the finishing touches on our priorities for that. 286 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 6: And do we have some understanding of what this budget's 287 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 6: going to look like. 288 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Well, we've got the Victorian government pledging to build eight 289 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: hundred thousand new homes in a ten year period between 290 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty thirty four. But Richard, that's 291 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: already off to a shaky start. They're already behind the 292 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: eight ball, and industry figures are saying that the state's 293 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: rigid tax regime has a lot to do with that, 294 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: and housing completions are actually now trending backwards. 295 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: This is just a simple supply and demand issue. 296 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, region We've got a 297 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: lot of people coming into Victoria and we're not having 298 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: a lot of houses built. 299 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 6: No reader, we're not, and that's simply because bringing a 300 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 6: block of land to market here in Victoria is just 301 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 6: so cost prohibitive. The bulk of Victorians sit between a 302 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 6: four hundred and eight hundred thousand dollars cap on their 303 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 6: mortgage capacity to borrow and to take their first home 304 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 6: sits roughly in that bandwidth of finance. This government has 305 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 6: almost made it impossible. All the talk in recent months 306 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: of changes to the twenty story towers and the activity 307 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: zones and the new planning schemes basically cannot bring a 308 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 6: house to market in Victoria, any sort of reasonable home 309 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 6: for Victorians under. 310 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: A million dollars. 311 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 6: We are just pricing young Victorians out. And in fact, 312 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: whether you're in Ballarat, Bendigo, Geelong, you name it, out 313 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: of suburbs of Melbourne, every corner of Victoria now is 314 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 6: taxed out of existence. When it comes to bringing affordable 315 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 6: new homes a changing government next year, as I said 316 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 6: earlier Rita, the focus has to be on safe, affordable, 317 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 6: accessible homes that are practical and available for people. At 318 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 6: the end of the day, we have to ask serious 319 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 6: questions about what political dynamite this government is building in, 320 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 6: whether it's the increase in taxes, whether it's the rules 321 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 6: and regulations about energy efficiency and other things that are 322 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 6: just not necessarily appropriate for homes here in Victoria, and 323 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 6: as a result, the cost is embedded in and when 324 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 6: it's nearly forty two percent of the cost of a 325 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 6: new greenfield home here in Victoria is in taxes and charges, 326 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: you know the state has a big role to play 327 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 6: in helping make homes more affordable for everybody. 328 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: That's it. 329 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: They've just got to get out of the way, cut 330 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: some of that regulation, the red tape, the green tape, 331 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: the black tape, and make it attractive for developers to 332 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: actually build properties that. 333 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: People want to live in. 334 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Now you've done a bit of a detective work, Richard, 335 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: You've done a bit of digging and uncovered that the 336 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: till candidate for Wanen, Alex Dyson, has received seventy five 337 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: percent of his money from just ten families, nine of 338 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: them based in Sydney, including Simon Holmes a court Richard, 339 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: Sydney is a long way from mornable. 340 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: You're not wrong. 341 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 6: The only solution I've got to this reader is I 342 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 6: have a sneaking suspicion that these Sydney siders have confused 343 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 6: Lizmore and Camper down in New South Wales with the 344 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 6: beautiful townships of Lismore and camperdown. 345 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Here in want And. 346 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 6: It doesn't make much sense that these people they don't 347 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: even have a presence here. That the most the fabulously 348 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 6: wealthy Simon Holmes of Court Reader, he has a property 349 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: and probably has many here in He's probably got one 350 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: in the CBD of Melbourne for business meetings and Climate 351 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 6: two hundred gatherings. But he doesn't even have a property 352 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 6: on our beautiful Great Ocean Road. Now I'd cut in 353 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 6: some slack if he'd actually invested in our community, but 354 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: he's not. Of course, he's not interested in our community. 355 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 6: He just knows that our community here in One and 356 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: Reader delivers thirty percent of the affordable gas into the 357 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 6: market here in Victoria. We are the backbone of cheap 358 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 6: gas in Victoria. From one we supply thirty percent of 359 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 6: Australia's dairy product, our timber industry, all sorts of fabulous 360 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 6: things come from gas production here in Wanten. And mister 361 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 6: Holmes Accord and his nine other friends, including a vet 362 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 6: from Sydney, they are held bent on shutting that down. 363 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 6: And quite frankly, the voters of want And have only 364 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 6: one choice backing the harbor Bridge brigade, and they're desire 365 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 6: to shut half our industries down or back are local 366 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: and that's the wonderful Dantean. 367 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: Now before you go. 368 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: The Herald Sun reported earlier this week that there is 369 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: a plot by Liberal operatives to and Moradeeming's political career. 370 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: Multiple candidates are going to be gearing up to challenge 371 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: her for that number one position on the Western Metropolitan 372 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: Upper House ticket. Richard, this is bewildering. 373 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: She is one of the. 374 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: Most popular, recognizable Liberals in this state. Why can't the 375 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: Liberal Party just unite behind her instead of trying to 376 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: undermine her position. 377 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 6: Well, look, Rita, I think it's fair to say all 378 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: organizations might have a rag tag rump about them that 379 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 6: you don't want to fight, fight to fight, you don't 380 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 6: need to have. Look, Moira has proven she's a tough campaigner. 381 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: She's gone to helen back in recent times. We're sticking 382 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 6: with her. She's been fantastic out in Werribee and the 383 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 6: West of Melbourne. We all saw the wonderful result we 384 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: got in the Weerribee by election, of which Moira was 385 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: front and center of helping us get. I have no doubt. 386 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 6: I have no doubt that if when push comes to 387 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 6: shove sometime next year, if there's still some angry party 388 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 6: member that wants to challenge a good luck to them, 389 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 6: they won't have much of a chance. At the end 390 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 6: of the day, all of us, as pre selected members 391 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 6: can face a challenge. This just sounds like a bit 392 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 6: of sour grapes that found its way into the paper. 393 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 6: But I don't think too many of us will take 394 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 6: it seriously, and we need Moira, like the rest of 395 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: our team, out every day selling Brad Baton and putting 396 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 6: the word forward that Victoria's got to change. 397 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: Richard Riden, thanks for your time tonight. You're ready to 398 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: take care still to come. Lefty is a losing ad class. 399 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: New York Attorney General Letitia James, who promised to get. 400 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: Trump, is under investigation herself. Sarah Gonzalez is up next 401 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now it's time for Lefty's losing it. 402 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: And George Clooney was on CNN being interviewed by the 403 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: fawning Jake Tapper. Clooney, sporting one of the worst die 404 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: jobs in Hollywood history, is again lying and playing the hero, 405 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: claiming that it was his civic duty to out Joe 406 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: Biden for not being up to it and needing to 407 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: step down. 408 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 11: You yourself did something that a lot of people would 409 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 11: call brave when you wrote your up out. 410 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: Well, if it was brave, it was. 411 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 12: It was a civic duty. 412 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 13: When I saw people on my side of the street 413 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 13: not telling the truth, I thought that was time to. 414 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: People still mount it for that. 415 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 13: Some people, sure, people criticized me. 416 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: They criticized me because of my stance against the war 417 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: twenty years ago. 418 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 3: And some people picketed my movies and they put me 419 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: on a deck of cards. 420 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 13: And I, you know, and that's that's I have to 421 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 13: take that. 422 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: That's fair. 423 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 14: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with criticism for my 424 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 14: you know, for where I stand. 425 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: Really, I'm just marveling at that hair dye. 426 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: I mean, how why no, we did cover this whole 427 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: thing when he tried to rewrite history on sixty minutes 428 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: a few weeks back. You know, George must think we're 429 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: all suffering from Biden's cognitive decline, because, far from taking 430 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: a principal stance and doing his civic duty, George Clooney 431 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: was part of the Biden cover up. Not only did 432 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: he hold a massive Hollywood fundraiser for Joe Biden. We 433 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: all remember the President glitching and having to be assisted 434 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: off the stage by Baraco Obama, And then we had 435 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: the White House lie to us and say the videos 436 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: of him being helped off stage were right wing disinformation. 437 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: I remember all that, and I remember that George Clooney. 438 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: George Clooney said nothing that all happened at his event. 439 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: He didn't do his civic duty there. 440 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: No, he waited weeks and weeks and weeks. Only after 441 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: Biden had that disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump. 442 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: Did George Clooney write that op ed? In fact, a 443 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: couple of weeks after the debate. 444 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Now protests continue against the president. But don't bother asking 445 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: any of these concerned citizens what they're exactly protesting about. 446 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about your sign today? 447 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: By you the lawyer? 448 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Don't you thank you? What do you think is the 449 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: biggest lie he's told? 450 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 11: I think everything that comes out of his mouth is 451 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 11: a lie. 452 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 10: I think everything that he says she should leave the opposite. 453 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Any specific examples where do I even begin? Are you 454 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: what do you? You can come and join? This is 455 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: my son, Rever. 456 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 10: What's a lie that Donald Trump is told? 457 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like him. 458 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: I've got no clothes. Now. 459 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: I wonder what this next lass is talking about. Perhaps 460 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 2: the Secret Service would care to have a word with her. 461 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: They're not someone out there with the terminal illness that's 462 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: willing to do it. I mean, I'm sure people are 463 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: willing to help. If you're willing to do it. I 464 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: think that there are people willing to help organize it. 465 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 10: Now. 466 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Remember when New York Attorney General, the woman who campaigned 467 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: on a promise of getting Trump. Remember when Letitia James 468 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: weaponized her office and conjured up absurd charges in order 469 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: to get Trump. 470 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: She claims, no one is above the law. 471 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: Stand up. 472 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: And enforce the rule of law. 473 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 14: The President of these United States is not above the law. 474 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 14: No matter how rich, powerful, or politically connected you are. 475 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 14: Everyone must play by the same rules you are saying. 476 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 15: The Federal Housing Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral 477 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 15: to the DOJ, accusing James of mortgage fraud, and a 478 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 15: letter to Attorney General Pam BONDI Director Bill Poulte says 479 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 15: James appears to have falsified wrecords in order to meet 480 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 15: certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms. He cited 481 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 15: a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her 482 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 15: principal residence. 483 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 7: As a New York elected official, she had to say 484 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 7: that her principal residence was in New York. This was 485 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 7: an out of state residence. But also they claimed that 486 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 7: in some of these forms, she actually states that her 487 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 7: father is her husband in order to file as a 488 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: married couple. 489 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh dear, looks like the comma bus has come for Letitia, 490 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: and maybe she knew it was coming because what's here. 491 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: At the National Action Network twenty twenty five convention early 492 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: this month, she looks nervous. 493 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: She's unraveling. 494 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: My mission is clear. 495 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 14: I'm focused, I'm prepared, I'm ready. I've been trained by 496 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 14: the best. I went to Howard University. I'm not afraid 497 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 14: of no President Donald Trump. We're ready for you. We're 498 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 14: coming for you, We're standing up for you. 499 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: We're fighting on. We're not going down. 500 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 14: Sailing victory, my friends, is clear. 501 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: It's now and. 502 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: I'm not waiting four years. I'm waiting two. 503 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 14: I tell us, speaker by the name of Hi King Jeffries. 504 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Comes to bring us. 505 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: Some rest come on, ladies, it's up to us. 506 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 14: We saved this democracy before, we'll save it now. 507 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: Let's go. 508 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: Johnny Meena is host of Sarah Gonzalez Unfiltered on BLISTAV 509 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: and VP of Texas Family Project. Sarah, what can you 510 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: tell me about the allegations against Letitia James. 511 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 16: Well, you know, it's interesting, Rita, thanks for having me back, 512 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 16: by the way, it's interesting. She was just screaming that 513 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 16: she was focused, and I was watching her eyes and 514 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 16: it didn't look like she was very focused at all. 515 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 16: They were looking in two different directions. But what I 516 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 16: can tell you about her allegations are that these democrats 517 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 16: here in this country. I don't know if it's like 518 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 16: this for you guys over there, but in our country, 519 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 16: the democrats who are accusing Republicans of crimes are the 520 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 16: ones who are committing the crimes. They are projecting their 521 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 16: crimes every single time they project their crimes onto us. 522 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 16: And so you had Letitia James, an Attorney General of 523 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 16: New York, who was accusing Donald Trump of civil fraud 524 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 16: for misrepresenting how much he was worth. And then Letitia 525 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 16: James herself gets accused of misrepresent for a loan and 526 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 16: Apparently she was the Attorney General of New York and 527 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 16: she was telling the loan company that she her primary 528 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 16: residence was going to be in a completely different steat. 529 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 11: You can't do that when you're the Attorney General of 530 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 11: New York. So I'm going to say she's. 531 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 16: Sunk on this one, and it couldn't happen to a 532 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 16: more deserting person. 533 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 10: No. 534 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: There's even reports that she'd claimed in the loone documents 535 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: to have been married to her father to get a 536 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: better interest rate. 537 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: I mean, the. 538 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Full allegations here are something else. But of course the 539 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: leftist media is treating this like some sort of political persecution. 540 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: Even the headlines are misleading. Have a look at that one, 541 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: making it look like they're targeting Democrats, But really they're 542 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: targeting alleged fraud here, and unlike Leticia James, they're not 543 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: trying to create cases out of thin air. I mean, 544 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: her case against Donald Trump was just really out there. 545 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Now we know with the Trump administration, big part of 546 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: their campaign was to restore the integrity of institutions that 547 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: have become hopelessly politicized. That was an election issue. You know, 548 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: trust in these institutions is at record low. And one 549 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: of the examples, Sarah, is that we still know so 550 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: very little about the assassination attempts against President Trump. 551 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't even know what's happened. 552 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 10: They're all saying it was like a couple of nutjobs. 553 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 11: Do you believe that, I don't know, you know. 554 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 10: The one person at eighteen telephones. I have a lot 555 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 10: of funds, but that's like three yeah, and they're made 556 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 10: for special reasons. I don't know what to believe. I'll 557 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 10: be honest. It has not been explained to me perfectly 558 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 10: by other secret service or the FBI. We have somebody, 559 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 10: two good people running that and I would like to 560 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 10: hear the explanation, even if it's not released in the public, 561 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 10: I should be allowed to. 562 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: Hear it came in, Sarah, What is happening with these investigations? 563 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: Heck? Can we know so little after all this time? 564 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 16: Well, I mean, Rita, I think the answer is clear, 565 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 16: because the answer they don't want to become public, so 566 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 16: they bury it. 567 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 11: I mean, when this first. 568 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 16: Assassination attempt came out and we had this loan shooter, 569 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 16: this young man didn't have very many friends, went to 570 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 16: a gun range where we knew that government officials frequented 571 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 16: coincidentally enough, and you heard his story, and you heard 572 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 16: that he had these encrypted accounts on his phone, and 573 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 16: you heard and then all of a sudden you heard 574 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 16: nothing else. He was connected to all of these foreign accounts, 575 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 16: and nothing else about it. And so the problem here, Rita, 576 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 16: is that we are dealing with a deep state bureaucracy 577 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 16: where the rot just goes so far deep. And unfortunately, 578 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 16: in this country, we have an election in November, and 579 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 16: then we have the rest of November, we have December, 580 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 16: and then we have the better part of January, where 581 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 16: all of these deep state actors can do whatever they 582 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 16: want to clean stuff up. And so I fear that 583 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 16: we never will get the full truth of this man. 584 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 16: But I mean, you mean to tell me these same 585 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 16: government officials who could track who was in Washington, d C. 586 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 16: On January sixth, twenty twenty one, who was even in 587 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 16: the vicinity of Washington, d C. On that day, couldn't 588 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 16: actually find any more information out about either of these 589 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 16: assassination attempts. I don't buy it, Rita, and neither does 590 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 16: the rest of America. 591 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's why trust in these institutions has plummeted, because 592 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: some of This stuff beggars belief. We've seen the rise 593 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: of leftist violence across the US for a number of years, 594 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: and some of these attacks are even impacting Democrats. 595 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: The Governor of Pennsylvania. 596 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro's home was attacked, and the suspect, who has 597 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: said he planned to use a hammer to bait the 598 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: governor if he encountered him his admitted this attack was 599 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: motivated by Shapiro's stance on Palestine. Sarah, what else can 600 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: you tell me about this asilent? 601 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 16: Well, I mean, rita, show me a violent radical and 602 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 16: show me a Democrat, because they are one and the same. 603 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 16: These days, it's every single time you have these assailants 604 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 16: who are motivated because the Democrats have gone out and 605 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 16: they have intentionally riled people up. They tell people to 606 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 16: take to the streets, they tell people to get up 607 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 16: in Trump voters' faces, they tell people to get violent. 608 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 16: And no one should be shocked that all of these 609 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 16: radicals who are listening to the likes of Jasmine Crockett 610 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 16: and AOC and all of these leftist leaders, we shouldn't 611 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 16: be shocked that they are actually following through with this. 612 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 16: I mean, we have in this country record levels of 613 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 16: anti Semitic tone, of anti Semitic rhetoric, and you have 614 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 16: unfortunately too many useful idiots in this country who are 615 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 16: listening to it, who are amped up by the rhetoric, 616 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 16: and they're moved to quote do something even though it's 617 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 16: of course the wrong thing to do. And so, of 618 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 16: course we have personal accountability that needs to be had 619 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 16: in this particular situation. But there are just four too 620 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 16: many people in this country who are quite comfortable going 621 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 16: out and saying, you know, saying and then acting upon 622 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 16: very very violent rhetoric, and you know, personal accountability, sure, 623 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 16: but I would say that the Democrats rhetoric has a 624 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 16: lot to do with the rise and the uptick in 625 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 16: this violence. 626 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And they've normalized this anti semitism. Shapiro should 627 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: have been the VP candidate for Kamala Harris, but because 628 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: he's Jewish, because his pro Israel served in the IDF, 629 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: they didn't want to go there, and they put up 630 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: Tim Walls, possibly the worst VP candidate in history. But 631 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: that just shows you how deep the anti Semitism is 632 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: running in the American left. 633 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: It's not on the fringes anymore. 634 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: The Democrats have also become preoccupied with Trump's deportation strategy, 635 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: something that is actually very popular, and even the deportation 636 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: of gang bangers to El Salvador is causing them concerns. 637 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: They're particularly focused on one case, an illegal immigrant from 638 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: l Salvador, an MS thirteen gang member who is right 639 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: now sitting in a mega prison in El Salvador, but 640 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: Democrat Chris van Holland is determined to bring him home. 641 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 11: I'm here at the airport. 642 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 13: I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador. The 643 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 13: goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration 644 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 13: to let the government of Al Salvador know that we 645 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 13: are going to keep fighting to bring Albrego Garcia home. 646 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 3: Well, I would have thought he was already home. He's 647 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: from El Salvador, Sarah. 648 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: He's in El Salvador now, Chris van Holland, But this 649 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: man who voted against the Lake and Riley Act, he's 650 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: not having much luck getting access to this prisoner. 651 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 652 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 16: Who would have thought that you could come to El 653 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 16: Salvador totally unannounced and show up and knock on the 654 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 16: door and say, Hey, Bouklee, could you please let me 655 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 16: into your super max facility. I'd really like to talk 656 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 16: to one of these prisoners. This guy knew exactly what 657 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 16: he was doing. It was a total political stunt for 658 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 16: optics and for attention. And I would just also like 659 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 16: to point out he did vote against the Lake and 660 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 16: Riley Act. He also has yet to utter the word 661 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 16: the name Rachel Morin, who is a woman from Marylyn 662 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 16: who was beat to death by an illegal immigrant. She 663 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 16: was beat to death so badly that her mother said 664 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 16: that all of the law enforcement had to shield these 665 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 16: pictures from her family because it was so graphic and 666 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 16: so horrific. Interestingly enough, that man never uttered the word 667 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 16: Rachel morn or the name Rachel Morin in his entire career, 668 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 16: and yet wants. 669 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 11: To go out on a limb for these illegal criminals. 670 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 16: Look, I would encourage all of these Democrats to continue 671 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 16: trying to trying to lift up all of these illegals 672 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 16: that Americans voted in November and said we are tired 673 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 16: of this, We want these people to go home. And 674 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 16: I would just like to add President Trump is still 675 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 16: waiting for a thank you from this man for sending 676 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 16: him on a free trip back to his home country. 677 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 16: You're welcome, kilmar Abrigo Garcia, And also You're welcome America. 678 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 3: Now, Sarah. 679 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: The Trump administration, Steven Miller has pled with the media 680 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: to care as much about Americans killed by illegal immigrants 681 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: as they care about illegal immigrants. 682 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: There's fifteen million legally aliens a bile edge of the country. 683 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 16: If every one of them got the trial that you're 684 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 16: asking for, it would take US centuries to remove them centuries. 685 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: And that's the point here. 686 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 2: If they to observe all these legal challenges, the entire 687 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: deportation program is undermined and becomes unworkable. 688 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: And it seems like. 689 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: That is the plan that the Democrats have got it underway. 690 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: They want to make these too difficult to execute. 691 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 11: Yeah, I would completely agree with that. 692 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 16: I mean, you have these people who so my argument 693 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 16: would be that the Constitution was meant for American citizens, 694 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 16: and so therefore due process was meant for American citizens. 695 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 16: And if you come into this country and you commit crimes, 696 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 16: you are not afforded due process. You can be removed 697 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 16: and deported at any time. There is no court hearing 698 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 16: that should be necessary for America to keep ourselves safe. 699 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 16: But on top of that, you have these illegal criminals 700 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 16: who should not have been here in the first place, 701 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 16: like the Kilmar Abrego Garcia who we just referenced, who 702 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 16: just now we find out today from the Department of 703 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 16: Homeland Security he had a restraining order from his wife 704 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 16: several years ago from beating her, from grabbing her, from 705 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 16: bruising her, from ripping her shirt off. 706 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 11: These are not good people, and. 707 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 16: The fact that the Democrats want to go above and 708 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 16: beyond to continue to bring them back into our country 709 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 16: is quite frankly treasonous behavior in my opinion. They are 710 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 16: working day in and day out to make America less safe, 711 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 16: and they're bragging about it in the mainstream media. The 712 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 16: fact that these people have so little self awareness that 713 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 16: they think that this is going to play well in 714 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 16: front of the American people, who again just voted and 715 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 16: said we are done with this open border's lawlessness. We 716 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 16: need safety, we need security, and we need President Trump. 717 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 16: It is not going to play out well in front 718 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 16: of the American people. 719 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 3: No, they're slow learners. 720 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: The media gives them a very good run, indeed, because 721 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: the media is on the. 722 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: Same page as they are. 723 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: But for the great majority of Americans, the more the 724 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: Democrats talk about this issue, the more they know that 725 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: they can't be trusted in government. If you can't protect 726 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: a country's borders, then you are not fit for office. 727 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to play you some footage. 728 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: Year. 729 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: This is a footage a distraught father took of his 730 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 2: three year old during their daily walk in San Francisco. 731 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: This is their neighborhood. 732 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: They just come back from two weeks away, and this 733 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: is what greeted them on their doorstep. The father said, 734 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: our politicians are not serious people. Lock these drug dealers 735 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: up and mandate jail or rehab. Now, Sarah, that poor 736 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: kid witnessing those scenes. It is disturbing. But as the 737 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: father explained, this is outside their door. If they want 738 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: to go outside and go for a walk, this is 739 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: what confronts them. And we are seeing that just not 740 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, but so many of these blue cities 741 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: where they have this very permissive attitude to drug use. 742 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned. 743 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 16: The correlation there is that these are all blue cities. 744 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 16: These are all Democrat run cities. Not just for the 745 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 16: last several years, but for the last several decades. These 746 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 16: places have been run by Democrats, and this is the 747 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 16: end result of Democrat policies. A little girl, three years old, 748 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 16: who has no business watching what's in front of her, 749 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 16: seeing all of these drug users right in front of her, horrific, 750 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 16: just stealing her innocence because of Democrat policies to go 751 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 16: easy on drug use, on homelessness, on crime, on all 752 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 16: of it. Now, my hope is that this father, of 753 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 16: course I don't know him, I don't know how he voted, 754 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 16: but oftentimes these people who live in these blue cities 755 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 16: are voting for the very same policies that got them 756 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 16: into the mess in the first place. And so my 757 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 16: hope is that that father will at least acknowledge and 758 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 16: understand the error of San Francisco's ways and do what 759 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 16: he can to stop it, or bare minimum get his daughter, 760 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 16: pack her up and get her the hell out of 761 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 16: San Francisco before it's too late. 762 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: But don't move to a state like Texas and then 763 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: vote for the very same policies that have seen San 764 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: Francisco reduced to that. 765 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 3: That's part of the prob world. 766 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: Because sometimes, yes, Texas is full. Yeah, Well, if you're 767 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: going to come from California, I think you know they 768 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: should be perhaps ten years when you're not allowed to vote, 769 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: just until you understand perhaps why Texas works in California 770 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: is a mess, Sarah Gonzalez, Thank you so much for 771 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: your time. 772 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 11: Thank you still to come. 773 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: Alon mask embroiled in yet another Baby Mama scandal. 774 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: Kinseysco Field has the latest. 775 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: You're watching the reader Panny's show, Joining Me now a 776 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: celebrity and royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. 777 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 3: Kinsey's sources close. 778 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 2: To Justin Bieber are becoming increasingly concerned for his mental 779 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: health as they watch him disintegrate. A former colleague claims 780 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: that Biber is lost and there's no one protecting him. 781 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: There's no one there willing to say no to him. 782 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: You say no, you get blown out. 783 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: What's happening with him? Because I thought he was on 784 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: the right track. 785 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: He seemed to have found God and was living a 786 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: more wholesome life. Maybe that didn't last long, But I've 787 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: seen some recent clips and he's a mess. 788 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 12: He really is. 789 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: You know. 790 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 8: When I used to hang out with him, there were 791 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 8: always issues with his mother. I remember them getting into 792 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 8: a big fight back stag in an award show because 793 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 8: he was angry that she had written a book about 794 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 8: their life and them and he really felt like it 795 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 8: was a violation of their relationship. A part of me 796 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 8: wonders if it's the new baby in his life, if 797 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 8: he's feeling all of these things about his past now 798 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 8: that he's a father. He was abandoned by his dad 799 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 8: at a young age. I don't know, or is it 800 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 8: Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. It just feels like he's 801 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 8: dealing with a lot of stuff right now and it's 802 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 8: not manifesting in a very appropriate way. 803 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: No, and if he pushes away anybody who tries to 804 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: be honest with him about how he's unraveling, it's hard 805 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 2: to see how he's going to. 806 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 3: Snap out of this. We hearing anything from his wife. 807 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: Is there anyone who is doing something to address these behaviors? 808 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 8: You know, Haley is trying to fight online bullies. I mean, 809 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 8: that's really been her priority. There's been a lot of 810 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 8: story circulating about their relationship, and I think. 811 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 12: That she's kind of fixated. 812 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 8: On her own brand, similar to somebody we talk about 813 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 8: quite often on this program, Megan Markle. But I do 814 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 8: hope that if Bieber's in a bad place, he gets 815 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 8: some help. 816 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 12: Of course, he slammed these reports, but you do. When 817 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 12: you're in Hollywood, you surround yourself by yes. People. 818 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 2: Now, Elon Musk, we know he has many, many children. Now, 819 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: there's rumors that is offered to impregnate right wing influencer 820 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 2: Tiffany Fong and then retaliated by slashing her ex earnings 821 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: when she refused. What can you tell me about these allegations. 822 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I believe this story. 823 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 12: My goodness, can you believe this now? 824 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 8: Phone claims that once she got on his radar and 825 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 8: he became interested in her, she made approximately twenty thousand 826 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 8: dollars a month through Twitter's influencer and said to program, 827 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 8: but when he cut wind that she was gossiping with Ashley, 828 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 8: with Ashley the other baby mama, he cut her reach 829 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 8: on Twitter and the money drad up. 830 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 12: I'm with you. 831 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 8: I don't know where the truth begins and where the 832 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 8: gossip starts. But if she's anything like Ashley, then there 833 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 8: are receipts and we will likely see them at one point. 834 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. 835 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm surprised if you've got these stories, there's not ample 836 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 2: evidence to back them up. 837 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 3: Text messages, voice messages. 838 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: Whatever else, however else you've communicated and talking about Ashley Sinclair, 839 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 2: the mother of Mask's fourteenth child, fourteenth we know about. 840 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 2: She's made some more bombshell claims. She says she turned 841 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: down fifteen million dollars from Elon Musk to conceal the 842 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: fact that he is the father of her child. She 843 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: didn't want the newborn to feel like he's a sacred 844 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: and Saint Clairsa revealed her son's name for the first time. 845 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 2: It's a rumorleous Saint Clair. 846 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 8: I mean, when is this guy going to stop naming 847 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 8: his children after Wi Fi passwords? My mind is blown 848 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 8: every time I hear one of these new names. 849 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 12: But you're right. The Wall Street Journal story, one of 850 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 12: the craziest parts. 851 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 8: To me was that he has at least fourteen children 852 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 8: with four women, But sources close to Elon told the 853 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 8: journal that the true number of his children is much 854 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 8: higher than publicly known. He also, and again we talked 855 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 8: about those receipts Ashley Saint Clair showed the Wall Street 856 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 8: Journal some text messages that Elon sent her, where he said, 857 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 8: to reach legion level, that's how many children he wants 858 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 8: Legion level before the apocalypse, we will need to use sarrogates. 859 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 12: That's what one of the text messages read. 860 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 8: Suggesting that he wants to continue pro creator for his legion. 861 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: Well, if he's got this many children, I mean, even 862 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: if it's just fourteen, just fourteen, I can't believe I'm 863 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: saying that he's always seems to be with one. He's 864 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: always with little X. I can imagine the others would 865 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: be a little bit jealous of the attention X is getting. 866 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: Above all others are disus. 867 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: Really, this is the stuff that we're going to see 868 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: movies and all sorts of books written about down the track. Now, 869 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Gail King. She's expressed 870 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 2: her displeasure those calling her trip on Jeff Bezos's Blue 871 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 2: Origin spacecraft a space ride. 872 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 3: She finds that very offensive. 873 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 2: She says it's not a ride because they never say 874 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 2: men went. 875 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: For a ride. 876 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: She's trying to bring in sexism and misogyny into people 877 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: who are arguing this was just a frivolous exercise. They're 878 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 2: not astronauts, and let's not pretend end this little stunt 879 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: is going to bring about world peace. 880 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 3: Amen. 881 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, whether or not it's a space rate, I think 882 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 8: it's irrelevant. The real question is whether it's a conflict 883 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 8: of interest, and that estrogen enema that we saw launch 884 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 8: into the sky cost a regular person like you or 885 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 8: I three hundred thousand dollars, and people want to know 886 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 8: if King broke her employer, CBS's rules by accepting gifts 887 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 8: for good coverage in the process of this ego trip. 888 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 12: I'm much more interested in that. 889 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 8: This feels like Gail trying to distract from the real issue, 890 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 8: and that's whether or not this was morally corrupt. 891 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, I just can't believe the carry on, Kinsey. These 892 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 2: women have put on such a performance afterwards. 893 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 3: I think no one would have. 894 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 2: Been critical if they did this and they shared their experience. 895 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: But every single one that I've seen, whether it's Laura Sanchez, 896 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: whether it's Katie Perry or Gail King, has tried to 897 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: paint this stunt as some welld changing significant event, not 898 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: just for womanhood but for mankind. And it's just so 899 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 2: self delighted, so divorced from reality, it's hard. 900 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: Not to mock it. 901 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's not a space ride, maybe 902 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 8: it's just an ego trip. 903 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 12: At the end of the day, it's an ego trip. 904 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: Ego trip exactly exactly, Kinsey Schofield, You've nailed it there, 905 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's 906 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,439 Speaker 2: it from May. 907 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night. 908 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: For Left, he's losing it at nine pm up next 909 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 2: it's Newsnight.