WEBVTT - #1783 Business As Usual - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>I get a Champce. It's it's Jumbo and it's Cookie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Bloody You Project. It's us, It's you again

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<v Speaker 1>for the million time. It's thirtieth of January. As we

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<v Speaker 1>record this, it's two oh three in the RBO. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I do that. I do. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know why I do that? Tip? It's the U project,

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<v Speaker 1>like station ID time Check. Yeah, I can tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's currently it's twenty one degrees in our city by

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<v Speaker 1>the bay here in Hampton over there in Port Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is that where you live? Do you? Thank God?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll not know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Ellwood, Elwood? What's a temp in Elwood?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea I've got. I haven't worked for

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<v Speaker 2>se N for a million years like you, so I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't slip into time check mode.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's what we need. Station ID time check,

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<v Speaker 1>weather check and coming up after the break, coming up

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<v Speaker 1>up on the other side of this, we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>news and Tip Cook's coming into studio to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us about, you know, all things buddy health and wellness

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<v Speaker 1>more on Melbourne's homosport next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've just been doing a version of this, which irritates.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I record a bunch of my intros

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<v Speaker 2>to my show, I kind of do all editing and

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<v Speaker 2>then I have intro recording moment and they all said

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, it irritates me because I do the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. We were around. It's the same. I'm like, oh, spew.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it Isn't it funny? How like with this right

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<v Speaker 1>where there's no well for me or you, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>pressure for maybe somebody else doing something like this, there

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<v Speaker 1>might be pressure or perceive pressure. But when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do, like, give me something where I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>talk for now, no problem. Give me something where I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk for thirty seconds, I fuck it up

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen times in a row. Yes, you know where you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let's say I've got to I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>do an intro for a pre recorded whatever, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go all right, here we go, all right, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck? And then you know it's like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was going to do I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a podcast the other day on a particular topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the topic. Well, I fucked it up literally

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know seven times, and then I crack

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<v Speaker 1>the shit. So I threw the glow mesh in the

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<v Speaker 1>shag pile, I threw the dumpy butt and window threw

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<v Speaker 1>all the toys out of the fucking cot and I went,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck that title, I'm not doing it. You can all

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<v Speaker 1>get rooted and the world clearly doesn't need to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that shit. Fuck it, And then I sulled.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, funny though, I love I actually selfishly

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<v Speaker 2>love hearing this because the times when we've done like

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<v Speaker 2>a double episode and you have to record an intro

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<v Speaker 2>and you do it in front of me when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the screen, you can just go bup and pop

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<v Speaker 2>it out and it's brilliant, and I'm like, how does

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<v Speaker 2>he do that? So I love that when because I

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<v Speaker 2>do the same thing. When someone's not on the screen

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<v Speaker 2>with me, I can't do it, whereas if there are

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<v Speaker 2>people on the zoom screen bang on about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know. It's it's funny how we

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<v Speaker 1>get in our own way. It's that it's that I

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<v Speaker 1>did I did an episode speaking of such things, I

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode just before and I know this is

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<v Speaker 1>not where we're going today, but fuck it, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>where we'll go. We always talk. We just had a

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<v Speaker 1>three minute chat everyone about what we're going to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we continue. Then we proceed to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. But I did. I did because I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is relevant. But I did a chat about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the difference between what we think and what

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<v Speaker 1>is real, like the the the perception versus the data.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like I feel or I think not

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not good enough, but there's actually data and

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to say, well, you are good enough. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not the fucking best, but you're good enough. Or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on lovable or whatever. Well, yeah, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that, but people love you, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>unlovable or do you know what I mean? But despite

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence, we can still believe stuff that isn't true,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that we've even got real world outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>and data and evidence to say that, no, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>fucking useless. Yet in the middle of that knowledge, we

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<v Speaker 1>can still feel or even think or believe we're useless.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I'm sixty as fuck and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go away, like it doesn't it just like the volume

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and I've done some great shit, like as in,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done really cool things in my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought I would do, but the feeling of supreme

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<v Speaker 1>confidence just is never there.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you were following my friend and I

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<v Speaker 2>this morning when we walked because I said this to

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<v Speaker 2>who I had the exact conversation where I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been thinking about it a lot and realizing

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<v Speaker 2>it all week in a really intense way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just said, I just don't understand why in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of not failing things right now, I feel like a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that that I don't understand what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with this and what creates the intensity around it.

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<v Speaker 2>At times, it's like a puzzle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you objectively, when I can look at what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing objectively in terms of your career and your development,

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<v Speaker 1>you're learning whatever and go well, you are definitely at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least improving and growing and evolving at the least. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But in the middle of that objective reality, your subjective experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dog shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I feel like I feel like I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's growth in one direction, but I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a decline twice as big in the other direction, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a funny experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as Eckhart tool and many other spiritual teachers would.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, missus, I've got a rock in my

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<v Speaker 1>bra because I've been to Nepal and I had enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to Nepal.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry India, Sorry India. But is finding that like being

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that without becoming that I'm aware of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. And I realize like I can think things

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<v Speaker 1>that are lies, like all that are not true. I

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<v Speaker 1>can even believe it's true while at being completely untrue.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm not good good enough to I actually said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm probably sorry for repeating this everyone, but you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard it. Tiff. I remember like one of the events,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to do another event. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a big U Project event at the Communi this year. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>So batten down the fucking hatches, start saving because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be super expensive. So sell a kidney and

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<v Speaker 1>get ready. Now it's not going to be expensive. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, you know this, self doubt this, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough. Who the fuck would want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>you or read you or watch you. You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>been ever present despite the fact that I know that

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<v Speaker 1>some people do, but I still feel like, who would

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<v Speaker 1>and why would they? And even though I'm going okay

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, I'm just lucky, it's just a phase.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to go. But I remember one day at

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<v Speaker 1>Deacon when we had a room full, we had just

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<v Speaker 1>under seven hundred people, and I was just in the zone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. It's one of those days where

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's coming through you, not from you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're throwing three pointers at the free throw

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<v Speaker 1>line and every ball is going in every basket without

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<v Speaker 1>even touching the net. It was like that, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>was just working and I kind of had this moment

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<v Speaker 1>where I looked up and I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is true, but it seemed like there were seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people in the palm of my hand, just captivated by

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on, and they were just fully present

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<v Speaker 1>and they were and what I was saying was landing

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<v Speaker 1>and there was connection and there was tears and there

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<v Speaker 1>was revelation and there's like and I just had this

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<v Speaker 1>moment where I went, fucking the hell, I'm not shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not shit. This is oh my god, I can

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<v Speaker 1>do this. You know, this is I'm not terrible, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember thinking, I don't this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself. I've had the few times in my life, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was one of the maybe five times in

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<v Speaker 1>my life where I've gone, don't forget this moment. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an important moment for you. And I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>really clearly, and I remember at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day because it was you know, we have lots of

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<v Speaker 1>good days with those workshops and seminars and conferences that

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<v Speaker 1>we do, and You've been involved in lots of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, everyone had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gone and just picking up some shits, and Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>comes up to me, and we were on the stage

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<v Speaker 1>and the last person had filter out of the filtered

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<v Speaker 1>out the room, and she was just packing up her

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<v Speaker 1>suitcase with a myriad of things that she takes and

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<v Speaker 1>she just looks at me and she goes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually what she said. She goes, what the fuck was that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I go, I don't know. I go, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, oh my god. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when there's just something special that happens, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a one on one conversation with someone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and even on that day, Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's the thing about connection and communication and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to, you know, be in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>something amazing with people and creating that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Winding back to that idea of the you know, feeling

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<v Speaker 2>one way about our reality when you know our perception

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<v Speaker 2>of it, do you reckon there's a relationship. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if there is to me, if there's a relationship between

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<v Speaker 2>in hope and risk. Right, So, when you're in when

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of perceive where you're at and you're in

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<v Speaker 2>this shit spot, there's only hope. There's only hope because

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one way. It's like, when I changed to

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<v Speaker 2>do the stuff I'm doing now, we were in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of a pretty shitty situation where things will looking grim.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, it can't get worse than this, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm going to do something new and brave and

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<v Speaker 2>bold and wonderful. And the only place to go is up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, when you start to

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<v Speaker 2>build on that and you get a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better, you're not at the bottom rung anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I could also fall. There's lots of hope.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all that hope up there, and I'm closer to it,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I could fall from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I think that's interesting because when

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<v Speaker 1>you go, well, there's only hope, I'm like, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely hope if you're that way and you can find that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's also strategy. There's also great questions.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like, oh, well, I'm in a shit spot, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just acknowledge I'm in a shit spot or

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<v Speaker 1>I fucked up, or I'm physically or mentally or financially

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<v Speaker 1>or professionally out of shape or got that's cool, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Then what's one thing you can do today tif to

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<v Speaker 1>make some ground? What's one thing you can do. What's

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<v Speaker 1>one conversation, What's one decision, What's one action? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I think that ability to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're not good enough but still try.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just go.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I don't know, I don't know. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you and I are similar in that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. Well, I don't know. Maybe you're way more

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<v Speaker 1>naturally gifted than me. I'm not sure, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you think And I definitely don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think either of us inherently think that we're fucking geniuses,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're probably similar in that, And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>either of us were inherently you know, you're probably well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely more genetically and probably more sporting in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of being gifted than I was, you know, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're similar in that we both don't think highly

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<v Speaker 1>of ourselves, or we didn't. Maybe we're getting a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence and awareness now hopefully not arrogance, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that being able to recognize maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have great self belief, or maybe I don't have heaps

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<v Speaker 1>of talent, or maybe I might fuck up. But definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't try, I'm never going to grow, learn evolved,

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<v Speaker 1>that get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how did you when you got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>of like stepping up in it? Let's like, so, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it be corporate work or speaking or any of that,

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<v Speaker 2>when it was time to level up and step into

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<v Speaker 2>that new paradigm, how did you? How did you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's when it bolsters me sometimes in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of and when I say transaction, I don't mean a

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<v Speaker 2>financial transaction, but like maybe a conversation in exchange or

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity or feedback on something. I notice internally that

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<v Speaker 2>almost the unworthiness or I'm not this or stuff comes

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<v Speaker 2>up or I go, so how do you manage? Because

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<v Speaker 2>that's for me, it's probably one of the biggest things

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<v Speaker 2>that I keep coming up against.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I have had to be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>fuck up and fail and get uncomfortable and look silly,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you can go, I'm probably going to get embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. I'm probably gonna not do this. Well, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably going to make more mistakes than I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get things correct. In the early days, like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was I've told this story, but I'll just briefly

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<v Speaker 1>retell it. Like my first couple of speaking gigs, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's really overselling what it was. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to a group and I did get paid, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But so the first one was in at a timber yard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in the staff room or the lunch room,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to a bunch of blokes who didn't give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck and you know, really weren't interested. But the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that owned the business, I was his trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he loved the shit I said, and He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>the shit that you tell me, My blokes need to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that shit. And I went and told them the

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<v Speaker 1>same shit, and clearly they weren't him, and they weren't interested.

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<v Speaker 1>But one or two guys. But in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>that quite painful thirty minutes in the lunch room, there

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<v Speaker 1>were just one or two glimmers of connection and hope.

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<v Speaker 1>And it may be a smile or maybe a laugh

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<v Speaker 1>or and I just I just had this speaking of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went ah, like those little so those little

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<v Speaker 1>moments of connection or those little, tiny little wins, they

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<v Speaker 1>felt amazing. And I went, oh and a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>like for the first year that I did stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did probably seventy percent of what I did

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<v Speaker 1>in the first year was for free, and thirty percent

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<v Speaker 1>I got paid a dollar fifteen, right. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of doing all of that and every

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<v Speaker 1>time coming away having done a three out of ten

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<v Speaker 1>or a two out of ten, or a four out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten, or sometimes when I was on fire, a five, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but being able to learn and see in my self

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<v Speaker 1>growth like I knew, I I like, I'm not good yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not good, but I was terrible and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm just less shit. Right. So it's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know you know Brad, that you and I both

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<v Speaker 1>know jiu jitsu Brad, Right, So if I go and

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<v Speaker 1>roll with Brad, if I do jiu jitsu with Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Brad could kill me seventeen different ways

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty seconds and I couldn't do anything about it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a he owns in a cab jiu jitsu academy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very experienced, is very good. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best probably in Australia in terms of in that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, but my job is not to go and

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<v Speaker 1>beat Brad. My job is to go in and go, right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad's great at this, I'm shit at this, and to

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<v Speaker 1>work at getting better, not at work at beating at

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<v Speaker 1>Brad or being as good as Brad, but going well, Craig,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a You're not even a one out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a nine. So you're you're a half out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, for me, it's just about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just about going well. I've just got to work

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<v Speaker 1>at being better and maybe down the track, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll have a podcast that thousands of people listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe I'll write a book and someone will buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Or maybe I'll write a few books. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll do a talk and I'll be fucking terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe one day seven hundred people will pay to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me and I'll be great. Who knows, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know?

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<v Speaker 2>It's that I've been doing some work with a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine. He's a speaker also, and we're just following

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<v Speaker 2>some processes that from some of his coaches and that

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<v Speaker 2>he does, so he's walking me through. It's about idea,

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<v Speaker 2>generation and content and just really valuable stuff, a way

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking. Like my brain hurt when he introduced me

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<v Speaker 2>to this stuff. And after the first we did a

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<v Speaker 2>co working day together, that night, I messaged him and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>with love, fuck you because yesterday I was a speaker

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew what my message was and I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what I spoke about. And right now I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>dogshit that doesn't know anything and can't even articulate to

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<v Speaker 2>you in an empty room what I'm talking about, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was introduced to this entirely new level of a

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<v Speaker 2>way of thinking and understanding things that just wasn't familiar

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Yeah, and that that's so confronting.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you Okay, so what was the How long

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<v Speaker 1>ago is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? A couple of weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>So what's that? What do you know now? Like you

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<v Speaker 1>felt shit straight away? What do you know now? And

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<v Speaker 1>what have you adapted? And what do you think now

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that I realized that I I'm great

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<v Speaker 2>at telling stories, but I'm not great at articulating what

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<v Speaker 2>my point is before being like I'm great if you,

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<v Speaker 2>but if a company comes to me and goes, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about this, this is our what we

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<v Speaker 2>want to get across. I'm awesome at going through our

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<v Speaker 2>mental filing cabinet and nailing that. I'm not great at

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<v Speaker 2>some one going what do you talk about? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to come and tell my company? I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the trying to pull that out of

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<v Speaker 2>my head, it's like the messy fucking sock draw. It's everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and my brain goes from I can't categorize cleanly and

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<v Speaker 2>clearly and create flow with my points, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>I do it on the fly, but I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there's value in understanding that if I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to portray what I do when I have

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities to connect with people and companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, yeah, that is interesting. I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>complicate it. Right. Yesterday I spent half a day with

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't said this yet, have I? Maybe I said

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<v Speaker 1>that the kids from Lara Secondary College. Right, great, your

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<v Speaker 1>twelve kids amazing. We did it at ballaratt Uni. And

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not I'm talking to you know, elite sporting team,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do, or I'm talking to a company like

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<v Speaker 1>a corporate space, you know, in a fancy fucking conference center,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm talking of blokes on a construction site, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking as seventeen year olds at a school or

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<v Speaker 1>at a university. It was. The common thread is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to help them think better, do better, be better,

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<v Speaker 1>create better outcomes. Right, And so I reckon you can

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<v Speaker 1>distill it down to a ten twenty second elevate a

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<v Speaker 1>pitch as they call it, which you can then build on.

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<v Speaker 1>So when someone goes to me, what do you do,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really asking what my job is, I go

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<v Speaker 1>I help people change stuff. The end it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is. You know has seven words

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<v Speaker 1>or six words? I help people change stuff five words, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, what is what stuff? I go, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, you know. I go head stuff, mind stuff, life,

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<v Speaker 1>life stuff, habits, behaviors, you know, thinking outcomes, results. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do that? And I go, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an excise scientist. I'm doing my doctorate in the

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<v Speaker 1>mind PhD in you know, psychology. So we think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the human stuff, you know, like the thing we

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<v Speaker 1>have in common is we all want to succeed, we

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<v Speaker 1>all want to be healthy, we all want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we open that door. And oh and then

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<v Speaker 1>so just by going I help people change stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then people go generally almost everyone says what people what stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, all people, all stuff. You know. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>at least open the door, Like here's what we know.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter what environment or what person or what situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody in front of you wants to be less happy,

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody in the room wants to be less healthy, Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>in the room wants to be more of a failure,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to be more fearful. Right, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I think once you try and over talk it

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<v Speaker 1>or over explain it, you do yourself a disservice, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tend to go, oh, look, I work with

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<v Speaker 1>teams and athletes and companies and individuals about just helping

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<v Speaker 1>them create better outcomes in their world the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, because invariably there's a question, nobody goes ah

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<v Speaker 1>and walks away. They go ah, cool, thanks by, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. I've never had that done. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is if I go, oh, well, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for asking. Well, actually I do a range of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an author, you know. Then people are shut up,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm always like undersell over the liver. Just open

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<v Speaker 1>the door, say something a bit interesting but also authentic,

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<v Speaker 1>open the door a bit, and then let them come

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<v Speaker 1>through and ask you stuff if you want. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the nutshell of what you do is the same. Your

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<v Speaker 1>job is to help people perform better whatever people and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever perform means better habits, better thinking, better decisions, better

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<v Speaker 1>operating systems, better protocols, better lifestyle. You know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff, right even you know, It's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a corporate guru at all, but I work successfully

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<v Speaker 1>in the corporate space. But I've never ever been corporate myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've never been a corporate employee ever in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I can go into the corporate space and thrive

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone in the corporate space is a human and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good with humans, you know. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think over time, I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>very podcasting what I'm saying, but fuck it, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just you and me. I'm coaching you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think over time, you're going to get more succinct

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<v Speaker 1>and more clear, and you know, it's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>become more where, more and more, as you get more

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<v Speaker 1>experienced and more confident and more competent, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be not that you are in any way choreographed or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're more person than persona, but as you

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<v Speaker 1>do more and more my experiences anyway, for me, you

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<v Speaker 1>just it's almost just like you're having a conversation, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really like yesterday, sorry you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just say what I've really what I

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<v Speaker 2>like and am drawn to about this process of working

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike is the research and the deep dive into

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<v Speaker 2>what are my thoughts? Where does this come from? What

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<v Speaker 2>is the research like stuff that I like? Where have

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<v Speaker 2>I drawn this from? And because I want to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I want yeah, I want to leave people with all

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<v Speaker 2>of the directions I've looked in so they can go

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<v Speaker 2>and look there too, like real clarity around I think

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<v Speaker 2>just even the idea of it's made me go back

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<v Speaker 2>and read books I've read before on specific topics and

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<v Speaker 2>bring to mind, get real clarity on why I've landed

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<v Speaker 2>where I've landed with all of this stuff, and what

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<v Speaker 2>is the research and other people who talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the things that I've agreed with and disagreed with,

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<v Speaker 2>and how can I talk about that to a room

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<v Speaker 2>because that's all relevant, Like all of it, all of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that's my stuff is just a decision that's

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<v Speaker 2>built on stuff that I have agreed with and disagreed

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<v Speaker 2>with and maybe changed my mind about over time. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've loved the process of going back to that and

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<v Speaker 2>playing there, but it's just left me in a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a whirlwind of oh, I'm not used to thinking

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<v Speaker 2>in this one's being used to thinking in a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know I use my brain a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>what I do, but like it physically hurt. I was

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<v Speaker 2>physically at home going my brain hurt feels like I've

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<v Speaker 2>done a workout with my head.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny, Yeah, funny. Can I tell you a little secret. Yeah,

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>your brain can't hurt because there's no pain receptors in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, you're welcome. That's ten dollars. I'll send you

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<v Speaker 1>the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing a PhD. You wouldn't have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>kill me that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what I was going to say to you

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<v Speaker 1>is what I think is something of a relief for

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<v Speaker 1>all speakers, is you're not the answer, like Tiff Cook,

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<v Speaker 1>not the answer. Tiff Cook. I can call you a

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<v Speaker 1>chick because you call yourself a chick, So please don't

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>send me an email everyone Tiff calls herself that you're

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a chick. On the stage in front of a bunch

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of other people sharing thoughts and ideas and stories. Some

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:52.959
<v Speaker 1>of them are going to land, some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>going to connect. Some people are going to be fucking inspired.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Some people are going to be looking at their Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>while you're talking. Some people are going to walk away

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<v Speaker 1>and go, she's a gum. That was the best thing

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I've ever fucking heard. And a few people will go, ah, right,

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what we do. You go in there and you

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<v Speaker 1>go I'm going to tell you some stuff that I think,

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<v Speaker 1>some experiences, I've had, some insights I've gained, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>story or two, and then I'm going to explain why

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you all that, and then you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe do something with it or not right. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like I never you know, I would never

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<v Speaker 1>tell someone how to think, but I would talk about thinking.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I would talk about metacognition and you know, metaperception, all

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of that. I would never tell someone what they should eat,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>but I would talk about nutrition. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>never tell someone what would be the best job, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk about the psychology of work and fulfillment

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and connection and purpose and what tends to work for

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>some people in terms of you know, thriving not surviving

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in work for forty years, and you know, so you

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>can talk about things without directing people, because there's some

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we know, Like I think we can safely

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<v Speaker 1>say that if you have a job where you feel

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like it's meaningful and you have purpose and you have

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<v Speaker 1>connection with other people and you feel like you're doing

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>good and growing and evolving, and well, there's a fair

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>chance you're going to like that job. But if you

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>get paid a million bucks a year, and I know

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>some people that think it wouldn't matter what it was.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I would fucking love it. You wouldn't love it like

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you had a job where you've got

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a million bucks a year, twenty grand a week, but

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you fucking hated every moment of it, guess what your

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>life is not. That's not success, that's not joy, that's

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>just income. And so you know, I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>these things that are broadly relevant, if not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent applicable all of the time. But as I said

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<v Speaker 1>to these kids, yes there's seventeen. Yesterday was day one

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<v Speaker 1>of year twelve. I'm like, what a fucking exciting time

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it is for you, you know? And I said, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, No, there's no optimal career. There's no optimal plan,

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>but there's there's the best plan for you, though, but

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>your best plan will be the worst plan for the

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>person next to you, and the career that blows your

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>socks off. I'm like, how many of you want to

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>be an influencer? Right? And of course no, not all

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the hands. I thought it would be everybody, but a

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>few hands went up, you know, and you go cool.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So for some of you, maybe that's what you should

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>or could do for Maybe you'll be an architect for

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>some of you, maybe you'll be a world famous chef,

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>or maybe you'll be none of that. Maybe you'll buy

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a truck and you'll have a truck driving business and

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you'll transport stuff around it. Who knows, it doesn't matter,

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's trying to find this, you know, Like what's

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>going to work for tif cook won't work for the

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>next person. And you know, it's like I say that

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>people don't don't do what I'd do because most people

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<v Speaker 1>would hate it because I don't actually have a job

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>or predictability, or I don't have a set wage. I

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have you know, I don't have holiday pay, I

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have sick pay. I don't have much security in

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that sense, or predictability or certainty. Most people would hate

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>what I do because it's extremely financially vulnerable, you know.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But I thrive in that. But most people don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there's so much there's sacrifice in every aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of what we do in life, Like because I'm thinking

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>about it, you know, I think about that a lot.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I could not fathom the idea of nine to five

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>again with someone else owning my time, me having no autonomy,

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>but also would love someone to pay me super and

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>holiday pay. I'd love to be able to leave the

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<v Speaker 2>job at work at five pm and turn my head

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<v Speaker 2>off like there's and you go, well, you get a

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<v Speaker 2>choice of what you are willing to pay for that,

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and you get to pay it like because seven days

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a week, any time of the day, I can go

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and walk my dog at my will any day I could,

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't theoretically just do whatever the fuck I want.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the price I pay. Is well, that you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that, You've also got to fucking make enough

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<v Speaker 2>money to pay yourself in super so you can eat

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<v Speaker 2>when you're sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't even think it's a price.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the joy you get. I'm like, for me,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>there's like it's not even none of me feels like

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm missing out on I I feel like that. I'm like,

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've been cheating for forty years. I

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like the fucking kid who got away with the cake, right,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just I'm the fat kid in the corner

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>with a fucking chocolate cake and I'm just getting away

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>with it, you know, like my mum, I reckon my

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>mum for about the first twenty years, is like, what

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the fuck do you actually do? You don't have a job?

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. She didn't like even when I owned like

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a proper business, gyms and stuff, to me, that was

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a fucking scam. Like if I didn't own a gym,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>m'd be in a gym two hours a day anyway.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And now I could just be in the place I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in and people give me money, and

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing that I do feels like a job. I'm around

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<v Speaker 1>people who are happy, people who are getting in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>people who are having good conversations, people who get excited

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to come to see you, people get excited to come

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to the place that you work at, and it's just

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this fucking massive, kind of amazing energy. And you're like, yeah,

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>this is not a job. This is a scam. And

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the middle of this scam. I'm making dough

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking don't tell anyone. I hope it doesn't catch on.

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Personal training court on Ah, well oh well, oh well

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<v Speaker 1>that's that. I think. It's just you know, I was

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to these kids yesterday. Did you see the picture

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I put up of that young kid. No, oh, go

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<v Speaker 1>to my instagram right now. I know this is not

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>very good. Go to my instagram and have a look

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>at the photo of that kid. And I now, if

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to see this kid everyone, his name's Declan.

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<v Speaker 1>Just turned seventeen, day one of year twelve yesterday. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not tiny. I'm five ten and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six kilos.

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<v Speaker 2>Dre just above his like your your head comes up

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to his mouth with your head comes up to his lips.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look like I'm fucking four foot seven, yeah,

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and fifty two kilos and I'm five ten and eighty

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>five or six kilos. And I don't think he would

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>mind me telling you because dudes don't care. And he

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>said to me, and he's in good shape. Right, So

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>he's six five and one hundred and thirty kilos and

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>he's in good shape, like he's an athletic six five

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>one thirty.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>When when I hear stats like that, the first thing

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I think is wow, I managine how much food he

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>gets to eat.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, back to what I you know, Like, the thing is,

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to emphasize to those kids, like you

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>can pretty much do whatever you want, like, I know

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>there are limitations, and but but don't do what mum

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>or dad necessary. Like if what mum and dad want

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you to do is also what you want to do,

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>well cool, but don't become a fucking doctor because mum

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and dad want you to become a doctor. Become a

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 1>doctor because that's what you want. Become a truck driver

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>or a train driver, or a personal trainer, or a

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>fucking artist or a street performer, whatever you want. Like oh, yeah,

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>but you've got to pay the bills. Yeah, you know what,

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>You've also got to live and have some joy in

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is that it's like, well, let's find

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>let's get an income, but let's have joy as well,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and maybe we could do both. Maybe we can make

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>a fortune and also do the thing that we love.

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And just trying to get across to them that you

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>don't realize how much potential you have at this time

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>in your life. And also you don't need to figure

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>out the next forty years by Friday week. You know,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>it's like this doesn't I talked to thirty year olds

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>who don't know what they want to do, and I'm like,

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 1>guess what you've got another fucking fifty years, so chill,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>like there is no hurry, like even when I finished

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>my current study, and like I reckon, I don't know.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm going to do, but I

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I'm not doing thinking about winding down

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>or retire. I'm excited. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I go.

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Is there a chance I'll do some more study? YEP?

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I probably won't, But could I go and do like

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I would go and do a degree in something that

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about just because I want to learn that.

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's never been not easier, but it's never been

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>more convenient to study now because you can do so

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>much online. A friend of mine's doing a master's in nutrition,

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>primarily nearly all of it online. I mean, it's full on,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of work, but like and just to

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.919
<v Speaker 1>just to like talk to these kids and go, hey,

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the world is your oyster, Like there is so much

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you can do. But also then too like

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>presenting with them the idea of intentional living, which is

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>having said that, yes, there are so many options and

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>so many roads you can choose, but also you're not

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>going to accident wind up in an awesome place like

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to choose it. You need to do the

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>work you need to. You need to keep getting up,

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>You need to be resilient, you need to, you know,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>find your reason. You need to outlast the motivation. You

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>need to. So also, it's not all fucking you know

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>roses and you know puppies. It's like there's there's still work,

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's still discipline, and there's still effort and energy

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's all of that. But at the

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>same time, if like most of my listeners do, if

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you live in Australia right now, it's a pretty fucking

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.479
<v Speaker 1>good time despite all the doom and gloom that we're

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>exposed to, you know, twenty twenty five, Like, there have

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>been so many periods evolutionary, evolutionarily where humanity has been

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.959
<v Speaker 1>in a way worse place than we're at now.

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. Can I share something brilliant on a

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>completely unrelated topic.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>You can.

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0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.880
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0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.520
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0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.040
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<v Speaker 2>was on fire. You can tune into a puppy whelping room.

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch the Seals, you can watch Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>Explore dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the pandas are so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me put on my specs. Oh wow wow, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Real time and like no humans, just animals doing their thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Gray Seals currently live. Oh my god. All right, well

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<v Speaker 1>that fucked me up. Now I want to seal.

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<v Speaker 2>A look at the polar bears.

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<v Speaker 1>You really did not need to?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Probably? Yeah. Can you get another six months extension

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<v Speaker 2>on your board?

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<v Speaker 1>Board Eagles six streams? Yeah? See, I don't need this

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<v Speaker 1>in my ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, oh there's a month feeding little eagles. Rather turn

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<v Speaker 3>that off because that's noisy. Yeah all right, well that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's just fucked up my afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>There goes my productivity out the window. It's been real

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<v Speaker 1>cook Thanks listeners. By the way, Feb three, next Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're almost there. It's Thursday. As we're recording. This Monday night,

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<v Speaker 1>our new mentoring program gets underway. Get the fuck on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks TIV, Thanks helps