1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: I get a Champce. It's it's Jumbo and it's Cookie. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: It's the Bloody You Project. It's us, It's you again 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: for the million time. It's thirtieth of January. As we 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: record this, it's two oh three in the RBO. I 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: don't know why I do that. I do. Do you 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: know why I do that? Tip? It's the U project, 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: like station ID time Check. Yeah, I can tell everybody 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: that's currently it's twenty one degrees in our city by 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the bay here in Hampton over there in Port Melbourne. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Where is that where you live? Do you? Thank God? 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: You'll not know. 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know Ellwood, Elwood? What's a temp in Elwood? 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Right now? 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: I've got no idea I've got. I haven't worked for 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: se N for a million years like you, so I don't. 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't slip into time check mode. 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's what we need. Station ID time check, 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: weather check and coming up after the break, coming up 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: up on the other side of this, we've got the 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: news and Tip Cook's coming into studio to talk to 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: us about, you know, all things buddy health and wellness 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: more on Melbourne's homosport next. 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just been doing a version of this, which irritates. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, when I record a bunch of my intros 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: to my show, I kind of do all editing and 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: then I have intro recording moment and they all said 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: and I'm like, it irritates me because I do the 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: same thing. We were around. It's the same. I'm like, oh, spew. 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Isn't it Isn't it funny? How like with this right 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: where there's no well for me or you, there's no 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: pressure for maybe somebody else doing something like this, there 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: might be pressure or perceive pressure. But when you've got 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: to do, like, give me something where I've got to 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: talk for now, no problem. Give me something where I've 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: got to talk for thirty seconds, I fuck it up 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: thirteen times in a row. Yes, you know where you go. 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: You know, let's say I've got to I've got to 39 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: do an intro for a pre recorded whatever, and I'll 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: go all right, here we go, all right, all right? 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh fuck? And then you know it's like that, you know, 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: like I was going to do I was going to 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: do a podcast the other day on a particular topic. 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: I know the topic. Well, I fucked it up literally 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: about I don't know seven times, and then I crack 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: the shit. So I threw the glow mesh in the 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: shag pile, I threw the dumpy butt and window threw 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: all the toys out of the fucking cot and I went, 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: fuck that title, I'm not doing it. You can all 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: get rooted and the world clearly doesn't need to hear 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: that shit. Fuck it, And then I sulled. 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: You know what, funny though, I love I actually selfishly 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: love hearing this because the times when we've done like 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: a double episode and you have to record an intro 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: and you do it in front of me when I'm 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: on the screen, you can just go bup and pop 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: it out and it's brilliant, and I'm like, how does 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: he do that? So I love that when because I 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: do the same thing. When someone's not on the screen 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: with me, I can't do it, whereas if there are 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: people on the zoom screen bang on about anything. 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. It's it's funny how we 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: get in our own way. It's that it's that I 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: did I did an episode speaking of such things, I 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: did an episode just before and I know this is 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: not where we're going today, but fuck it, who knows 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: where we'll go. We always talk. We just had a 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: three minute chat everyone about what we're going to talk about, 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: and then we continue. Then we proceed to talk about 70 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: none of that. But I did. I did because I 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: think this is relevant. But I did a chat about 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, the difference between what we think and what 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: is real, like the the the perception versus the data. 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's like I feel or I think not 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: like I'm not good enough, but there's actually data and 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: evidence to say, well, you are good enough. You know, 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you're not the fucking best, but you're good enough. Or 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm on lovable or whatever. Well, yeah, I get it, 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: you feel that, but people love you, so you're not 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: unlovable or do you know what I mean? But despite 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the evidence, we can still believe stuff that isn't true, 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: so much so that we've even got real world outcomes 83 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: and data and evidence to say that, no, you're not 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: fucking useless. Yet in the middle of that knowledge, we 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: can still feel or even think or believe we're useless. 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: And it's like I'm sixty as fuck and it doesn't 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: go away, like it doesn't it just like the volume 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: goes down and I've done some great shit, like as in, 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I've done really cool things in my life that I 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: never thought I would do, but the feeling of supreme 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: confidence just is never there. 92 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: I feel like you were following my friend and I 93 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: this morning when we walked because I said this to 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: who I had the exact conversation where I said, you know, 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: and I've been thinking about it a lot and realizing 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: it all week in a really intense way, and I 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: just said, I just don't understand why in the middle 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: of not failing things right now, I feel like a failure. 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: And I know that that I don't understand what's going 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: on with this and what creates the intensity around it. 101 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: At times, it's like a puzzle. 102 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you objectively, when I can look at what 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: you're doing objectively in terms of your career and your development, 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: you're learning whatever and go well, you are definitely at 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: the very least improving and growing and evolving at the least. Right, 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: But in the middle of that objective reality, your subjective experiences, 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm dog shit. 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel like I feel like I know 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: there's growth in one direction, but I feel like there's 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: a decline twice as big in the other direction, and 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 2: it's such a funny experience. 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: Well as Eckhart tool and many other spiritual teachers would. 113 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: And you know, missus, I've got a rock in my 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: bra because I've been to Nepal and I had enlightenment. 115 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I haven't been to Nepal. 116 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Sorry India, Sorry India. But is finding that like being 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: aware of that without becoming that I'm aware of it, 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm not. And I realize like I can think things 119 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: that are lies, like all that are not true. I 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: can even believe it's true while at being completely untrue. 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: You know I'm not good good enough to I actually said, 122 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: and I'm probably sorry for repeating this everyone, but you 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: haven't heard it. Tiff. I remember like one of the events, 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: and we're going to do another event. We're going to 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: do a big U Project event at the Communi this year. Everyone, 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: So batten down the fucking hatches, start saving because it's 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: going to be super expensive. So sell a kidney and 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: get ready. Now it's not going to be expensive. But 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: I remember, you know this, self doubt this, I'm not 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: good enough. Who the fuck would want to listen to 131 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: you or read you or watch you. You know that's 132 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: been ever present despite the fact that I know that 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: some people do, but I still feel like, who would 134 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: and why would they? And even though I'm going okay 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: at the moment, I'm just lucky, it's just a phase. 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: It's going to go. But I remember one day at 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Deacon when we had a room full, we had just 138 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: under seven hundred people, and I was just in the zone. 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's one of those days where 140 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: it feels like it's coming through you, not from you. 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: It's like you're throwing three pointers at the free throw 142 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: line and every ball is going in every basket without 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: even touching the net. It was like that, and everything 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: was just working and I kind of had this moment 145 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: where I looked up and I don't know if this 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: is true, but it seemed like there were seven hundred 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: people in the palm of my hand, just captivated by 148 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: what was going on, and they were just fully present 149 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: and they were and what I was saying was landing 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: and there was connection and there was tears and there 151 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: was revelation and there's like and I just had this 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: moment where I went, fucking the hell, I'm not shit, 153 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not shit. This is oh my god, I can 154 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: do this. You know, this is I'm not terrible, you know, 155 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, I don't this is what I 156 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: thought to myself. I've had the few times in my life, right, 157 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: and this was one of the maybe five times in 158 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: my life where I've gone, don't forget this moment. This 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: is an important moment for you. And I remember it 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: really clearly, and I remember at the end of the 161 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: day because it was you know, we have lots of 162 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: good days with those workshops and seminars and conferences that 163 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: we do, and You've been involved in lots of them. 164 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, everyone had kind 165 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: of gone and just picking up some shits, and Melissa 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: comes up to me, and we were on the stage 167 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: and the last person had filter out of the filtered 168 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: out the room, and she was just packing up her 169 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: suitcase with a myriad of things that she takes and 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: she just looks at me and she goes, this is 171 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: actually what she said. She goes, what the fuck was that? 172 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: And I go, I don't know. I go, I don't know. 173 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: She goes, oh my god. It was like, you know, 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: when there's just something special that happens, you know, it 175 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: could be a one on one conversation with someone. Yeah, 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, and even on that day, Yeah, but I 177 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know. That's the thing about connection and communication and 178 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: being able to, you know, be in the middle of 179 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: something amazing with people and creating that experience. 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: Winding back to that idea of the you know, feeling 181 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: one way about our reality when you know our perception 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: of it, do you reckon there's a relationship. I wonder 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: if there is to me, if there's a relationship between 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: in hope and risk. Right, So, when you're in when 185 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: you kind of perceive where you're at and you're in 186 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: this shit spot, there's only hope. There's only hope because 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: there's only one way. It's like, when I changed to 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: do the stuff I'm doing now, we were in the 189 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: middle of a pretty shitty situation where things will looking grim. 190 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it can't get worse than this, so 191 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to do something new and brave and 192 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: bold and wonderful. And the only place to go is up. 193 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, when you start to 194 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: build on that and you get a little bit better, 195 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: a little bit better, you're not at the bottom rung anymore, 196 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: and it's like I could also fall. There's lots of hope. 197 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: There's all that hope up there, and I'm closer to it, 198 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: but also I could fall from here. 199 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I think that's interesting because when 200 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: you go, well, there's only hope, I'm like, well, there's 201 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: definitely hope if you're that way and you can find that. 202 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: But I think there's also strategy. There's also great questions. 203 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: There's like, oh, well, I'm in a shit spot, all right, 204 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: so you just acknowledge I'm in a shit spot or 205 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: I fucked up, or I'm physically or mentally or financially 206 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: or professionally out of shape or got that's cool, all right, 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: Then what's one thing you can do today tif to 208 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: make some ground? What's one thing you can do. What's 209 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: one conversation, What's one decision, What's one action? But yeah, 210 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: and that I think that ability to be able to 211 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: feel like you're not good enough but still try. 212 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just go. 213 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, I don't know. And it's like, 214 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, you and I are similar in that I 215 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: don't think. Well, I don't know. Maybe you're way more 216 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: naturally gifted than me. I'm not sure, but I don't 217 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: think you think And I definitely don't think I don't 218 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: think either of us inherently think that we're fucking geniuses, 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: so we're probably similar in that, And I don't think 220 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: either of us were inherently you know, you're probably well, 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: you're definitely more genetically and probably more sporting in terms 222 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: of being gifted than I was, you know, But I 223 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: think we're similar in that we both don't think highly 224 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: of ourselves, or we didn't. Maybe we're getting a bit 225 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: of confidence and awareness now hopefully not arrogance, but yeah, 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: I think that being able to recognize maybe I don't 227 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: have great self belief, or maybe I don't have heaps 228 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: of talent, or maybe I might fuck up. But definitely, 229 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: if I don't try, I'm never going to grow, learn evolved, 230 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: that get better. 231 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Like how did you when you got to a point 232 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: of like stepping up in it? Let's like, so, whether 233 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: it be corporate work or speaking or any of that, 234 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: when it was time to level up and step into 235 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: that new paradigm, how did you? How did you do that? 236 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Because that's when it bolsters me sometimes in the middle 237 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: of and when I say transaction, I don't mean a 238 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: financial transaction, but like maybe a conversation in exchange or 239 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: an opportunity or feedback on something. I notice internally that 240 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: almost the unworthiness or I'm not this or stuff comes 241 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: up or I go, so how do you manage? Because 242 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: that's for me, it's probably one of the biggest things 243 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: that I keep coming up against. 244 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: So for me, I have had to be willing to 245 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: fuck up and fail and get uncomfortable and look silly, 246 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: like if you can go, I'm probably going to get embarrassed. 247 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: That's okay. I'm probably gonna not do this. Well, that's okay. 248 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to make more mistakes than I'm going 249 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: to get things correct. In the early days, like for me, 250 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: it was I've told this story, but I'll just briefly 251 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: retell it. Like my first couple of speaking gigs, I mean, 252 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: that's that's really overselling what it was. But I was 253 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: talking to a group and I did get paid, right. 254 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: But so the first one was in at a timber yard, 255 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: and it was in the staff room or the lunch room, 256 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: talking to a bunch of blokes who didn't give a 257 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: fuck and you know, really weren't interested. But the guy, 258 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: the guy that owned the business, I was his trainer, 259 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: and he loved the shit I said, and He's like, 260 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: the shit that you tell me, My blokes need to 261 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: hear that shit. And I went and told them the 262 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: same shit, and clearly they weren't him, and they weren't interested. 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: But one or two guys. But in the middle of 264 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: that quite painful thirty minutes in the lunch room, there 265 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: were just one or two glimmers of connection and hope. 266 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: And it may be a smile or maybe a laugh 267 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: or and I just I just had this speaking of hope. 268 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I just went ah, like those little so those little 269 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: moments of connection or those little, tiny little wins, they 270 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: felt amazing. And I went, oh and a few times, 271 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: like for the first year that I did stuff like that, 272 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: and I did probably seventy percent of what I did 273 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: in the first year was for free, and thirty percent 274 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I got paid a dollar fifteen, right. But it was 275 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of doing all of that and every 276 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: time coming away having done a three out of ten 277 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: or a two out of ten, or a four out 278 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: of ten, or sometimes when I was on fire, a five, right, 279 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: but being able to learn and see in my self 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: growth like I knew, I I like, I'm not good yet. 281 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I know I'm not good, but I was terrible and 282 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: now I'm just less shit. Right. So it's like, if 283 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: you know you know Brad, that you and I both 284 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: know jiu jitsu Brad, Right, So if I go and 285 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: roll with Brad, if I do jiu jitsu with Brad, 286 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I know that Brad could kill me seventeen different ways 287 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: in sixty seconds and I couldn't do anything about it. So, 288 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: and he's a he owns in a cab jiu jitsu academy, 289 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: he's very experienced, is very good. He's one of the 290 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: best probably in Australia in terms of in that you know. 291 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: And so, but my job is not to go and 292 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: beat Brad. My job is to go in and go, right, well, 293 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: Brad's great at this, I'm shit at this, and to 294 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: work at getting better, not at work at beating at 295 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Brad or being as good as Brad, but going well, Craig, 296 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: you're a You're not even a one out of ten. 297 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: He's a nine. So you're you're a half out of ten. 298 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: And so yeah, for me, it's just about that, you know, 299 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: It's just about going well. I've just got to work 300 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: at being better and maybe down the track, I don't know, 301 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'll have a podcast that thousands of people listen to. 302 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: Or maybe I'll write a book and someone will buy it, 303 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: you know. Or maybe I'll write a few books. So 304 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: maybe I'll do a talk and I'll be fucking terrible, 305 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: but maybe one day seven hundred people will pay to 306 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: listen to me and I'll be great. Who knows, or 307 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: you know? 308 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: It's that I've been doing some work with a friend 309 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: of mine. He's a speaker also, and we're just following 310 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: some processes that from some of his coaches and that 311 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: he does, so he's walking me through. It's about idea, 312 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: generation and content and just really valuable stuff, a way 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: of thinking. Like my brain hurt when he introduced me 314 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: to this stuff. And after the first we did a 315 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: co working day together, that night, I messaged him and said, hey, 316 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: with love, fuck you because yesterday I was a speaker 317 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: and I knew what my message was and I knew 318 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: what I spoke about. And right now I feel like 319 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: dogshit that doesn't know anything and can't even articulate to 320 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: you in an empty room what I'm talking about, because 321 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: it was introduced to this entirely new level of a 322 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: way of thinking and understanding things that just wasn't familiar 323 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, and that that's so confronting. 324 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: What did you Okay, so what was the How long 325 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: ago is that? 326 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh? A couple of weeks? 327 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: So what's that? What do you know now? Like you 328 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: felt shit straight away? What do you know now? And 329 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: what have you adapted? And what do you think now 330 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: about that? 331 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: So I think that I realized that I I'm great 332 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: at telling stories, but I'm not great at articulating what 333 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: my point is before being like I'm great if you, 334 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: but if a company comes to me and goes, we 335 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: want to talk about this, this is our what we 336 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: want to get across. I'm awesome at going through our 337 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: mental filing cabinet and nailing that. I'm not great at 338 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: some one going what do you talk about? What do 339 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: you want to come and tell my company? I'm like, oh, 340 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: And then in the trying to pull that out of 341 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: my head, it's like the messy fucking sock draw. It's everywhere, 342 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: and my brain goes from I can't categorize cleanly and 343 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: clearly and create flow with my points, and I know 344 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: I do it on the fly, but I just feel 345 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: like there's value in understanding that if I want to 346 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: be able to portray what I do when I have 347 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: opportunities to connect with people and companies. 348 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, that is interesting. I think we can 349 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: complicate it. Right. Yesterday I spent half a day with 350 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: I haven't said this yet, have I? Maybe I said 351 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: that the kids from Lara Secondary College. Right, great, your 352 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: twelve kids amazing. We did it at ballaratt Uni. And 353 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: whether or not I'm talking to you know, elite sporting team, 354 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: which I do, or I'm talking to a company like 355 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: a corporate space, you know, in a fancy fucking conference center, 356 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: or I'm talking of blokes on a construction site, or 357 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking as seventeen year olds at a school or 358 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: at a university. It was. The common thread is that 359 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to help them think better, do better, be better, 360 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: create better outcomes. Right, And so I reckon you can 361 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: distill it down to a ten twenty second elevate a 362 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: pitch as they call it, which you can then build on. 363 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: So when someone goes to me, what do you do, 364 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: and they're really asking what my job is, I go 365 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: I help people change stuff. The end it's like I 366 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: don't know what that is. You know has seven words 367 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: or six words? I help people change stuff five words, right, 368 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: and they're like, what is what stuff? I go, lots 369 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: of stuff, you know. I go head stuff, mind stuff, life, 370 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: life stuff, habits, behaviors, you know, thinking outcomes, results. Oh, 371 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: how do you do that? And I go, well, you know, 372 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm an excise scientist. I'm doing my doctorate in the 373 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: mind PhD in you know, psychology. So we think about 374 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: all the human stuff, you know, like the thing we 375 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: have in common is we all want to succeed, we 376 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: all want to be healthy, we all want to be happy. 377 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: And so we open that door. And oh and then 378 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: so just by going I help people change stuff, you know, 379 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: then people go generally almost everyone says what people what stuff? 380 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: I go, all people, all stuff. You know. It's like 381 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: at least open the door, Like here's what we know. 382 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what environment or what person or what situation. 383 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Nobody in front of you wants to be less happy, 384 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Nobody in the room wants to be less healthy, Nobody 385 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: in the room wants to be more of a failure, 386 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: nobody wants to be more fearful. Right, and so it's 387 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: like I think once you try and over talk it 388 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: or over explain it, you do yourself a disservice, you know. 389 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: So I tend to go, oh, look, I work with 390 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: teams and athletes and companies and individuals about just helping 391 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: them create better outcomes in their world the end, you know, 392 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: or whatever, because invariably there's a question, nobody goes ah 393 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: and walks away. They go ah, cool, thanks by, Like 394 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: they don't do that. I've never had that done. So 395 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: what I do is if I go, oh, well, thanks 396 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: for asking. Well, actually I do a range of things. 397 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm an author, you know. Then people are shut up, 398 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: like I'm always like undersell over the liver. Just open 399 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: the door, say something a bit interesting but also authentic, 400 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: open the door a bit, and then let them come 401 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: through and ask you stuff if you want. But I mean, 402 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: the nutshell of what you do is the same. Your 403 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: job is to help people perform better whatever people and 404 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: whatever perform means better habits, better thinking, better decisions, better 405 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: operating systems, better protocols, better lifestyle. You know, it's all 406 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: the same stuff, right even you know, It's like, I'm 407 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: not a corporate guru at all, but I work successfully 408 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: in the corporate space. But I've never ever been corporate myself, 409 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Like I've never been a corporate employee ever in my life. 410 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Yet I can go into the corporate space and thrive 411 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: because everyone in the corporate space is a human and 412 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with humans, you know. So yeah, but 413 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: I think over time, I don't know if this is 414 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: very podcasting what I'm saying, but fuck it, I feel 415 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: like it's just you and me. I'm coaching you. But 416 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I think over time, you're going to get more succinct 417 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: and more clear, and you know, it's just going to 418 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: become more where, more and more, as you get more 419 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: experienced and more confident and more competent, it's going to 420 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: be not that you are in any way choreographed or 421 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're more person than persona, but as you 422 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: do more and more my experiences anyway, for me, you 423 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: just it's almost just like you're having a conversation, but really, 424 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, really like yesterday, sorry you go. 425 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: Well, I was just say what I've really what I 426 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: like and am drawn to about this process of working 427 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: with Mike is the research and the deep dive into 428 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: what are my thoughts? Where does this come from? What 429 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: is the research like stuff that I like? Where have 430 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: I drawn this from? And because I want to leave. 431 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: I want yeah, I want to leave people with all 432 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: of the directions I've looked in so they can go 433 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: and look there too, like real clarity around I think 434 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 2: just even the idea of it's made me go back 435 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: and read books I've read before on specific topics and 436 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: bring to mind, get real clarity on why I've landed 437 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: where I've landed with all of this stuff, and what 438 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: is the research and other people who talk about it, 439 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: what are the things that I've agreed with and disagreed with, 440 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: and how can I talk about that to a room 441 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 2: because that's all relevant, Like all of it, all of 442 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: the stuff that's my stuff is just a decision that's 443 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 2: built on stuff that I have agreed with and disagreed 444 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: with and maybe changed my mind about over time. So 445 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: I've loved the process of going back to that and 446 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: playing there, but it's just left me in a bit 447 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: of a whirlwind of oh, I'm not used to thinking 448 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: in this one's being used to thinking in a different way. 449 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: And I know I use my brain a lot in 450 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: what I do, but like it physically hurt. I was 451 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: physically at home going my brain hurt feels like I've 452 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: done a workout with my head. 453 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: That's funny, Yeah, funny. Can I tell you a little secret. Yeah, 454 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: your brain can't hurt because there's no pain receptors in it. 455 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, you're welcome. That's ten dollars. I'll send you 456 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: the bill. 457 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: You're doing a PhD. You wouldn't have been able to 458 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: kill me that. 459 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: But what what I was going to say to you 460 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: is what I think is something of a relief for 461 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: all speakers, is you're not the answer, like Tiff Cook, 462 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: not the answer. Tiff Cook. I can call you a 463 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: chick because you call yourself a chick, So please don't 464 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: send me an email everyone Tiff calls herself that you're 465 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: a chick. On the stage in front of a bunch 466 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: of other people sharing thoughts and ideas and stories. Some 467 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: of them are going to land, some of them are 468 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: going to connect. Some people are going to be fucking inspired. 469 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: Some people are going to be looking at their Facebook 470 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: while you're talking. Some people are going to walk away 471 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: and go, she's a gum. That was the best thing 472 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: I've ever fucking heard. And a few people will go, ah, right, 473 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: that's what we do. You go in there and you 474 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: go I'm going to tell you some stuff that I think, 475 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: some experiences, I've had, some insights I've gained, maybe a 476 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: story or two, and then I'm going to explain why 477 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you all that, and then you're going to 478 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: maybe do something with it or not right. And so 479 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: it's not like I never you know, I would never 480 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: tell someone how to think, but I would talk about thinking. 481 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: I would talk about metacognition and you know, metaperception, all 482 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: of that. I would never tell someone what they should eat, 483 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: but I would talk about nutrition. You know, I would 484 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: never tell someone what would be the best job, but 485 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: I could talk about the psychology of work and fulfillment 486 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: and connection and purpose and what tends to work for 487 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: some people in terms of you know, thriving not surviving 488 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: in work for forty years, and you know, so you 489 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: can talk about things without directing people, because there's some 490 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: stuff that we know, Like I think we can safely 491 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: say that if you have a job where you feel 492 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: like it's meaningful and you have purpose and you have 493 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: connection with other people and you feel like you're doing 494 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: good and growing and evolving, and well, there's a fair 495 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: chance you're going to like that job. But if you 496 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: get paid a million bucks a year, and I know 497 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: some people that think it wouldn't matter what it was. 498 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: I would fucking love it. You wouldn't love it like 499 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: I mean, if you had a job where you've got 500 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: a million bucks a year, twenty grand a week, but 501 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: you fucking hated every moment of it, guess what your 502 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: life is not. That's not success, that's not joy, that's 503 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: just income. And so you know, I think there are 504 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: these things that are broadly relevant, if not one hundred 505 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: percent applicable all of the time. But as I said 506 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: to these kids, yes there's seventeen. Yesterday was day one 507 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: of year twelve. I'm like, what a fucking exciting time 508 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: it is for you, you know? And I said, here's the thing. 509 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, No, there's no optimal career. There's no optimal plan, 510 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: but there's there's the best plan for you, though, but 511 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: your best plan will be the worst plan for the 512 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: person next to you, and the career that blows your 513 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: socks off. I'm like, how many of you want to 514 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: be an influencer? Right? And of course no, not all 515 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: the hands. I thought it would be everybody, but a 516 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: few hands went up, you know, and you go cool. 517 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: So for some of you, maybe that's what you should 518 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: or could do for Maybe you'll be an architect for 519 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: some of you, maybe you'll be a world famous chef, 520 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: or maybe you'll be none of that. Maybe you'll buy 521 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: a truck and you'll have a truck driving business and 522 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: you'll transport stuff around it. Who knows, it doesn't matter, 523 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: but it's trying to find this, you know, Like what's 524 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: going to work for tif cook won't work for the 525 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: next person. And you know, it's like I say that 526 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: people don't don't do what I'd do because most people 527 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: would hate it because I don't actually have a job 528 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: or predictability, or I don't have a set wage. I 529 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: don't have you know, I don't have holiday pay, I 530 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: don't have sick pay. I don't have much security in 531 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that sense, or predictability or certainty. Most people would hate 532 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: what I do because it's extremely financially vulnerable, you know. 533 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: But I thrive in that. But most people don't. 534 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's so much there's sacrifice in every aspect 535 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: of what we do in life, Like because I'm thinking 536 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: about it, you know, I think about that a lot. 537 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: I could not fathom the idea of nine to five 538 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: again with someone else owning my time, me having no autonomy, 539 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: but also would love someone to pay me super and 540 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: holiday pay. I'd love to be able to leave the 541 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: job at work at five pm and turn my head 542 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: off like there's and you go, well, you get a 543 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: choice of what you are willing to pay for that, 544 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: and you get to pay it like because seven days 545 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: a week, any time of the day, I can go 546 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: and walk my dog at my will any day I could, 547 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't theoretically just do whatever the fuck I want. 548 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: And that's the price I pay. Is well, that you 549 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: can do that, You've also got to fucking make enough 550 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: money to pay yourself in super so you can eat 551 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: when you're sixty. 552 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't even think it's a price. 553 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the joy you get. I'm like, for me, 554 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: there's like it's not even none of me feels like 555 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm missing out on I I feel like that. I'm like, 556 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been cheating for forty years. I 557 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: feel like the fucking kid who got away with the cake, right, 558 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, just I'm the fat kid in the corner 559 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: with a fucking chocolate cake and I'm just getting away 560 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: with it, you know, like my mum, I reckon my 561 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: mum for about the first twenty years, is like, what 562 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: the fuck do you actually do? You don't have a job? 563 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: You know. She didn't like even when I owned like 564 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: a proper business, gyms and stuff, to me, that was 565 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: a fucking scam. Like if I didn't own a gym, 566 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: m'd be in a gym two hours a day anyway. 567 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: And now I could just be in the place I 568 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: want to be in and people give me money, and 569 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: nothing that I do feels like a job. I'm around 570 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: people who are happy, people who are getting in shape, 571 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: people who are having good conversations, people who get excited 572 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: to come to see you, people get excited to come 573 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: to the place that you work at, and it's just 574 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: this fucking massive, kind of amazing energy. And you're like, yeah, 575 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: this is not a job. This is a scam. And 576 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of this scam. I'm making dough 577 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: fucking don't tell anyone. I hope it doesn't catch on. 578 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it did. 579 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Personal training court on Ah, well oh well, oh well 580 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: that's that. I think. It's just you know, I was 581 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: talking to these kids yesterday. Did you see the picture 582 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: I put up of that young kid. No, oh, go 583 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to my instagram right now. I know this is not 584 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: very good. Go to my instagram and have a look 585 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: at the photo of that kid. And I now, if 586 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: you want to see this kid everyone, his name's Declan. 587 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Just turned seventeen, day one of year twelve yesterday. Now, 588 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not tiny. I'm five ten and I'm 589 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: eighty six kilos. 590 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: Dre just above his like your your head comes up 591 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: to his mouth with your head comes up to his lips. 592 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look like I'm fucking four foot seven, yeah, 593 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: and fifty two kilos and I'm five ten and eighty 594 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: five or six kilos. And I don't think he would 595 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: mind me telling you because dudes don't care. And he 596 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: said to me, and he's in good shape. Right, So 597 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: he's six five and one hundred and thirty kilos and 598 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: he's in good shape, like he's an athletic six five 599 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: one thirty. 600 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: When when I hear stats like that, the first thing 601 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: I think is wow, I managine how much food he 602 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: gets to eat. 603 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, back to what I you know, Like, the thing is, 604 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to emphasize to those kids, like you 605 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: can pretty much do whatever you want, like, I know 606 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: there are limitations, and but but don't do what mum 607 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: or dad necessary. Like if what mum and dad want 608 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: you to do is also what you want to do, 609 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: well cool, but don't become a fucking doctor because mum 610 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: and dad want you to become a doctor. Become a 611 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: doctor because that's what you want. Become a truck driver 612 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: or a train driver, or a personal trainer, or a 613 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: fucking artist or a street performer, whatever you want. Like oh, yeah, 614 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: but you've got to pay the bills. Yeah, you know what, 615 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: You've also got to live and have some joy in 616 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: And the thing is that it's like, well, let's find 617 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: let's get an income, but let's have joy as well, 618 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: and maybe we could do both. Maybe we can make 619 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: a fortune and also do the thing that we love. 620 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: And just trying to get across to them that you 621 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: don't realize how much potential you have at this time 622 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: in your life. And also you don't need to figure 623 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: out the next forty years by Friday week. You know, 624 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: it's like this doesn't I talked to thirty year olds 625 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: who don't know what they want to do, and I'm like, 626 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: guess what you've got another fucking fifty years, so chill, 627 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: like there is no hurry, like even when I finished 628 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: my current study, and like I reckon, I don't know. 629 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to do, but I 630 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: tell you what I'm not doing thinking about winding down 631 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: or retire. I'm excited. I'm excited. 632 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: I go. 633 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: Is there a chance I'll do some more study? YEP? 634 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: I probably won't, But could I go and do like 635 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: I would go and do a degree in something that 636 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: I know nothing about just because I want to learn that. 637 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: And it's never been not easier, but it's never been 638 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: more convenient to study now because you can do so 639 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: much online. A friend of mine's doing a master's in nutrition, 640 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: primarily nearly all of it online. I mean, it's full on, 641 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work, but like and just to 642 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: just to like talk to these kids and go, hey, 643 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: the world is your oyster, Like there is so much 644 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: stuff that you can do. But also then too like 645 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: presenting with them the idea of intentional living, which is 646 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: having said that, yes, there are so many options and 647 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: so many roads you can choose, but also you're not 648 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: going to accident wind up in an awesome place like 649 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: you need to choose it. You need to do the 650 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: work you need to. You need to keep getting up, 651 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: You need to be resilient, you need to, you know, 652 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: find your reason. You need to outlast the motivation. You 653 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: need to. So also, it's not all fucking you know 654 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: roses and you know puppies. It's like there's there's still work, 655 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: and there's still discipline, and there's still effort and energy 656 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: and you know, there's all of that. But at the 657 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: same time, if like most of my listeners do, if 658 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: you live in Australia right now, it's a pretty fucking 659 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 1: good time despite all the doom and gloom that we're 660 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: exposed to, you know, twenty twenty five, Like, there have 661 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: been so many periods evolutionary, evolutionarily where humanity has been 662 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 1: in a way worse place than we're at now. 663 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Can I share something brilliant on a 664 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: completely unrelated topic. 665 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: You can. 666 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: It's a new discovery. It replaces doom scrolling www dot 667 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: explore dot org. Harps log onto it right now. This 668 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: is a website that has live cameras around the world 669 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: just watching animals. I watched polar bears eating bamboo for 670 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: ten minutes yesterday instead of doom scrolling and my soul 671 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: was on fire. You can tune into a puppy whelping room. 672 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: You can watch the Seals, you can watch Eagles. 673 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: It's explore dot org. 674 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: Explore dot org. 675 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, it's coming up. 676 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh the pandas are so cute. 677 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: Let me put on my specs. Oh wow wow, oh 678 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: my god, this is. 679 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: Real time and like no humans, just animals doing their thing. 680 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Gray Seals currently live. Oh my god. All right, well 681 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: that fucked me up. Now I want to seal. 682 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: A look at the polar bears. 683 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: You really did not need to? 684 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably? Yeah. Can you get another six months extension 685 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: on your board? 686 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Board Eagles six streams? Yeah? See, I don't need this 687 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: in my ah. 688 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: Okay, oh there's a month feeding little eagles. Rather turn 689 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: that off because that's noisy. Yeah all right, well that's 690 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: that's just fucked up my afternoon. 691 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: There goes my productivity out the window. It's been real 692 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: cook Thanks listeners. By the way, Feb three, next Monday, 693 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: we're almost there. It's Thursday. As we're recording. This Monday night, 694 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: our new mentoring program gets underway. Get the fuck on board. 695 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: Thanks TIV, Thanks helps