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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Austrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight was premier just into Alan the victim

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Speaker 3: of a sexist attack by volunteer fire fighters. There's a

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Speaker 3: twist to that story. I'll discuss that surely with Adam Crichton.

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Speaker 3: The Great Douglas Murray will join me shortly and he'll

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Speaker 3: weigh in on King Charles's climate activism, among other things.

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Speaker 3: John Heindereker will have the latest from the US, and

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Speaker 3: later in the hour I'll speak to a member of

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Speaker 3: the LGBTQIA community, a lesbian who is taking on the

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Speaker 3: transactivists and winning. And we have an extra long edition

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Speaker 3: of Lefties Losing It for you tonight and it stars

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Speaker 3: not one, not two, but three ladies of the view.

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Speaker 4: I believe you are pointing the finger at the wrong

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Speaker 4: person when you say Democrats.

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Speaker 3: But first fire fighters from across regional Victoria gathered in

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Speaker 3: Melbourne's West to protest the Allen Government's emergency Services levy,

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Speaker 3: which will see many farmers face bills totaling tens of

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Speaker 3: thousands of dollars, despite many of them being CFA volunteers.

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Speaker 2: Now, one of the fire trucks at.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday's rally, which was attended by Opposition leader.

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Speaker 2: Brad Batten, had ditch the Bitch.

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Speaker 3: Written on the side and apparent reference to Premier just

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Speaker 3: Into Allen, which has been labeled as misogynistic, a sexist

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Speaker 3: attacked and Labor has used that to attack Brad Batton

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Speaker 3: because he appeared at the rally and they've used it

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Speaker 3: to lecture the Liberal Party about its so called deep

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Speaker 3: rooted issues with women. But the truck that featured that

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Speaker 3: slogan was in fact manned by an all female team.

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Speaker 3: Here's what one of them had to say.

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Speaker 5: That tanker was manned by and all female crew. The

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Speaker 5: female crew that was honored a third generation farmers. The

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Speaker 5: decision was made by all of the females that were

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this, as senior fellow

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Speaker 3: and chief economists at the Institute of Public Affairs Adam

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Speaker 3: Cricht and Adam is it okay if it's women using

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Speaker 3: the b word against the premieres are still sexist?

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Speaker 2: Where do we stand on this?

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Speaker 6: Well, look, it's I mean, it's probably ridiculous to say

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Speaker 6: that their sexist storm, misogynistic because they are women themselves.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, it was a.

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Speaker 6: Crude remark, it was a crash remark. But these people

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Speaker 6: are justifiably angry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've.

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Speaker 6: Basically had their tax bill tripled. I mean, the total

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Speaker 6: revenue from the emergency services levey last year was roughly

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Speaker 6: five hundred million. This financial year one point five billion,

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Speaker 6: and so that's basically a tripling for all these people,

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Speaker 6: No wonder they are furious.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the Labor Party.

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Speaker 6: Is trying to use this as a distraction from the

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Speaker 6: fundamental issue, which is increased tax fiscal recklessness, and they're

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Speaker 6: trying to smear the opposition leader as a sexist. But

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Speaker 6: it's just totally ridiculous, and as if they're really upset anywhere.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this language is not it's not that extreme.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if you go to the movies,

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Speaker 6: you watch TV, you see a lot worse than that.

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Speaker 2: You do see a lot worse than that.

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Speaker 3: But we saw how much mile Leach they got from

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Speaker 3: Ditch the Witch and the fact that Tony Abbott was

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Speaker 3: at that rally and that sign was somewhere in the background.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Labor Party here in Victoria seeing

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Speaker 3: an opportunity. I can see the ad campaigns coming up,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure if they want to publicize this

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Speaker 3: particular issue, because to be upsetting volunteer firefighters, to be

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Speaker 3: upsetting our farmers whilst they're suffering this terrible drought, it's

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Speaker 3: not an issue they're strong on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly that's true. And also the Liberal Party could

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Speaker 6: go and interview the women that actually wrote these these

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Speaker 6: stick there of it and it won't be as successful

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Speaker 3: And just finally on that, what about the allegation that

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Speaker 2: You could make that argument.

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Speaker 3: We've seen the more redeeming scandal, a very different deep

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I wouldn't say that's a male female thing.

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Speaker 6: That's a personality thing. It's a problem with the political

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Speaker 6: government here is really hopeless. You know, we just talked

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Speaker 2: But it's not just that. It's a whole range of things.

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Speaker 2: It's across the law.

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Speaker 6: You know, they really have to win, you know, for

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It's an indictment on the Victorian Libs that it's got

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Speaker 3: this far, the fact that they have been so uncompetitive,

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Speaker 3: even as we've had successive labor governments that.

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Speaker 2: Have failed almost across the board.

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Speaker 3: You look at the economic performance, you look at the

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Speaker 3: societal issues, you look at the craziness of six.

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Speaker 2: Lockdowns could go on. Now, let's check in on how

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Speaker 3: Doing on its promise to reduce overall migration federal labor.

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Speaker 3: We now have the data for May twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: and Australia recorded the highest level yet of net long

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Speaker 3: term and permanent arrivals for the month of May. Now,

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Speaker 3: while that isn't purely overseas migration, it is a strong

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Speaker 3: indicator of what's going on. Almost two million migrants from

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Speaker 3: And when COVID nineteen restrictions were lifted, and that includes

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Speaker 3: a net gain of four hundred and forty six thousand

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Speaker 3: people through overseas migration in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is an astonishing change to the country.

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Speaker 2: How will that change the country?

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Speaker 7: Certainly is look.

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Speaker 6: I mean I had to check those figures because they're

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Speaker 6: just so extreme. And as you pointed out, the Prime

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Speaker 6: Minister did say earlier this year that the rate of

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Speaker 6: immigration would fall to two hundred and sixty thousand net

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Speaker 6: overseas migration. Well, we are on track at the current

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Speaker 6: rate for this calendar of five hundred and ninety thousand, okay,

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Speaker 6: and the figure for the financial year that just ended

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Speaker 6: was supposed to be three hundred and thirty five thousand

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Speaker 6: for June, but it's already twenty seven percent out two thousand,

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Speaker 6: more than the forecast of three hundred and thirty five. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it really is out of control. And to

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Speaker 6: answer your question, well, we're just going to get our

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Speaker 6: GDP per capita going backwards every quarter. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: just had the main figure. It's huge, it's the highest ever.

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Speaker 6: And you know when they work out GDP per capita,

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Speaker 6: obviously they just divide GDP by how many people are

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Speaker 6: it's going to shrink.

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Speaker 2: So the impact is just going to be enormous.

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Speaker 3: I mean you look at the societal issues, but the

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Speaker 3: impact on infrastructure, the impacts on housing, on hospital waiting lists,

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Speaker 6: Now, the link with rents is obviously very strong and direct.

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Speaker 6: I mean I went to a conference at Sydney last

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Speaker 6: very strong link with the level of immigration and the

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Speaker 8: Which of course stands to reason.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's not just the rents, as you.

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Speaker 6: Say, It's the infrastructure, it's the how's it gets social

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Speaker 6: cohesion too. I mean, most of these people are coming

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Speaker 6: from developing countries, you know, is that what we really want?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean to be careful talking about.

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Speaker 3: That, well, you have to be careful talking about Ambesi

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Speaker 3: Bee because we are lucky to be an island nation,

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Speaker 3: and we can determine what is the ideal population for

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Speaker 2: Most countries can't do that.

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Speaker 3: They've got poorest borders, but we have got a control

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Speaker 3: of our borders and we should be able to have

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Speaker 3: a discussion without people losing their minds and screaming racism

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Speaker 3: and trying to silence people.

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Speaker 2: Adam Crichton, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Reder.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Douglas Murray, author of a number

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Speaker 3: of international best sellers, including his latest book on Democracies

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Speaker 3: and Death Cults, Israel and the Future of Civilization.

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Speaker 2: Douglas, let's start in.

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Speaker 3: The UK, where it's apparently islamophobic to accurately report on

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Speaker 3: Islamist terrorism such as the Manchester Arena bombing. Descriptions such

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Speaker 3: as a knife wielding man yelling Islamic slogans have led

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Speaker 3: to complaints launched by the Muslim Council of Britain's Medium

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Speaker 3: Monitoring Unit. I do wonder, Douglas, what is the impact

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Speaker 3: of these complaints.

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Speaker 2: There seem to be plenty of them.

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Speaker 3: And how does that impact how these stories are reported.

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Speaker 1: Well read? I mean, it impacts absolutely everything. It impacts

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Speaker 1: the ability of the British public to comprehend or understand reality.

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Speaker 1: There's a very good example of the consequences of these

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Speaker 1: kinds of silencing and intimidating techniques, which is basically that

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Speaker 1: anyone who writes in the British press about any issue

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Speaker 1: to do with Islamist terrorism will be will be criticized

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Speaker 1: by various of these bodies for spreading Islamophobia and so on,

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Speaker 1: so that you can't say what the bomber said. For instance,

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Speaker 1: if he said at Ali Akbar, you just got to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he has said some words, and there are consequences for

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Speaker 1: this all the time. We just passed the twentieth annversary

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Speaker 1: of the seventh of July two thousand and five suicide

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Speaker 1: bombings in London, when four Islamist terrorists homegrown defonated suicide

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Speaker 1: bus twenty years on the BBC's documentary and other documentaries

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Speaker 1: in fact about this, as my colleague Rod Little wrote

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Speaker 1: about in last week's Spectator, if you hadn't been alive

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, or you knew nothing about those bombs.

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Speaker 1: You could easily have come away with the interpretation of

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Speaker 1: events that was basically, some people from Yorkshire inexplicably exploded

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Speaker 1: as if maybe the bombs just let themselves off, or

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just a problem with yorkshiremen. This is this

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Speaker 1: is the consequence of shuttering down free and open discussion

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Speaker 1: like this an accurate The consequence is the general public

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Speaker 3: In now, and so many in the media self censor anyway,

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Speaker 3: you don't need this complaints system just ideologically many of

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Speaker 3: them are reluctant to explain what is happening. So when

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Speaker 3: you put this on top of it, and the Muslim

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Speaker 3: Council of Britain's Media Monitoring unit is also criticizing works

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Speaker 3: of fiction Douglas TV dramas that might show a Muslim character,

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Speaker 3: for example, who doesn't want to wear a hejab, or

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Speaker 3: a Muslim character who drinks alcohol or is gay. That's

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Speaker 3: also that times attracting complaints.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, everything is going to attract complaints from a

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Speaker 1: professional complaints issuing unit. And that's what this unit of

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Speaker 1: the Muslim Britain, which consecutive British governments will not have

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Speaker 1: too radical. This is what the MCB's Media Monitoring Unit does.

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Speaker 1: It just fires off endless, endless complaints in the hope

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Speaker 1: that it basically intimidates editors and writers and journalists from

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Speaker 1: saying accurately what they see with their own eyes. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget that there are consequences, other consequences to this, and

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Speaker 1: just one it's worth reminding people of, which is that

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Speaker 2: Insult when you're invoked.

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Speaker 9: Do you think do you do you think Latinos are

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Speaker 9: living under circumstances right now?

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Speaker 3: There she goes again, pretending every member of the Latino

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Speaker 3: community is illegal and fearful of being deported. As for

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Speaker 3: her being blatantly sexist and racist in that instance, well,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't long before CNN host Abby Philip was rushing

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Speaker 3: to rescue Anna and defend her bigotry.

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Speaker 2: Wonder if she'd do that if a.

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Speaker 3: Man dismissed Navarro's opinion because of her gender and race.

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Speaker 11: I just want to make a point that, Brad. All

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Speaker 11: she's saying is that her view of the situation is

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Speaker 11: different from yours. I don't think that's an insult.

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Speaker 12: Basically at home, she just said I see it, I.

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Speaker 11: See it differently from you, which is not an insult.

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Speaker 11: It's not and it's also not a recal.

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Speaker 3: Say what now, Abby, nice attempt at gas lighting. But

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Speaker 3: we just heard Ada being racial. It wasn't the difference

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Speaker 3: in opinion.

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Speaker 2: That was ugly.

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Speaker 3: It was the racist, sexist reason behind it.

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Speaker 2: Is it weight man? Is it weight man?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Anna's view co host Sonny Houston, who

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Speaker 3: exemplifies the left so beautifully, so unprincipled, so inconsistent, so

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Speaker 3: utterly devoid of anything resembling a good faith argument. Let's

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Speaker 3: see her go from claiming anyone who wants the Epstein

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Speaker 3: list released is a reckless conspiracy theorist. That's when the

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Speaker 3: Democrats were in power. But now that Trump is in power, well,

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Speaker 3: she's had a dramatic change of heart. And let's thank MASL.

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Speaker 3: Moore again for this superb clip.

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Speaker 12: People were dying for this information. There was some sort

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Speaker 12: of list that everybody thought was going to come out,

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Speaker 12: and who's.

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Speaker 2: On the list.

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Speaker 12: What's important for us to note is we shouldn't been

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Speaker 12: repeating names that are on the list, because just because

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Speaker 12: your name has not on the list but in the documents,

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Speaker 12: just because your name is on the documents, does it

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Speaker 12: mean that you have done anything criminally irresponsible or illegal

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Speaker 12: or civilly irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that you were clients or that you were a client.

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Speaker 12: The only really these documents, as I read them, only

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Speaker 12: reflect Epstein's sexual assaults of women and his sexual behavior.

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Speaker 12: So I think that Alane also and Galane and so

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Speaker 12: being named in this suit does not equate to being

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Speaker 12: accused of wrongdoing. And I think that is extremely important

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Speaker 12: because conspiracy theories seem to not understand or enjoy facts. Yes,

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Speaker 12: these are the facts. There is a list. Name is

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Speaker 12: on the logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's aircraft at

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Speaker 12: least seven times that's already been made public. I mean,

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Speaker 12: of course, Trump is denying any, any and all allegations

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Speaker 12: but all of that information is out there, why not

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Speaker 12: just put it to rest and say, release the look.

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Speaker 3: And let's stick with the ladies of the view. Whoopy

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Speaker 3: Goldberg is unhappy again. This time she's attacking her own,

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Speaker 3: including Mark Cuban and even Barack Obama, who have advised

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Speaker 3: the left that advised the Democrats to stop whining so much.

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Speaker 3: Whoopy is outrage she wants to keep whining incessantly.

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Speaker 4: Let me remind everybody who was out in the front

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Speaker 4: lines marching when we had the giant marches that went on,

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Speaker 4: it was the people. The people went out, They were

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Speaker 4: not navel gazing. It was older people who were saying,

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Speaker 4: why are you touching my social security? It was not

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Speaker 4: people whining.

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Speaker 12: With much due respect to you both, I believe you.

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Speaker 4: Are pointing the finger at the wrong person when you

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Speaker 4: say Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And let's hear from Barack Obama, who's had a dramatic

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Speaker 3: change of heart, almost sunny Houston like he's gone from

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Speaker 3: brating men claiming that only sexism is stopping them from

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Speaker 3: voting for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 13: Remember this, and you're coming up with all kinds of

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Speaker 13: reasons and excuses.

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Speaker 1: I've got a problem with.

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Speaker 13: That because part of it makes me think I'm speaking

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Speaker 13: to men directly. Part of it makes me think that, well,

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Speaker 13: you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman

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Speaker 13: as president, and you're coming up with other alternatives and

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Speaker 13: other reasons for them. That's not exciting.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I can't believe that didn't work. But now Barack

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Speaker 3: Obama has had a change of heart is change is

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Speaker 3: toued here is rooting for men. On Michelle Obama podcast,

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Speaker 3: he explains that boys and men feel like they're not

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Speaker 3: being valued.

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Speaker 8: And I would argue that some of the broad political

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Speaker 8: trends we've seen, not just in this country but around

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Speaker 8: the world have to do with this sense of you know, boys,

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Speaker 8: men not feeling as if they are seen, seeing feeling

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Speaker 8: as if they count, and that then makes them more

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Speaker 8: interested in appeals by folks who say, you know what,

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Speaker 8: the reason you don't feel respected is because women have

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Speaker 8: been doing this or this group has been doing this, sir,

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Speaker 8: that group's been.

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Speaker 13: Doing this, and.

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Speaker 8: That is not a that's not a healthy place to be.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: In the past, we've talked about Barbara Streisan blaming Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump for getting fat.

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Speaker 2: Her words, not mine.

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Speaker 3: Rosio' Donald blamed the President for her drinking too much,

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Speaker 3: and now we have actress Valerie Bertinelli getting on the

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Speaker 3: internet to talk about her desire for alcohol and food.

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Speaker 3: To give this democrat some credit. She is a big Democrat.

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Speaker 3: She even filmed herself voting for Kamala I'm embarrassing now

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Speaker 3: to give her credit. She doesn't directly blame Trump for

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Speaker 3: her online meltdown, but we all know who's to blame.

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Speaker 2: I want to drink.

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Speaker 14: I want to know it. I don't want to feel it,

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Speaker 14: But my logical mind is like, no, you know I

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Speaker 14: did that. You don't want to come in. You know

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Speaker 14: what will help you feel better is to just feel

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Speaker 14: the feelings. Get through to the other side. Have a

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Speaker 14: good cry, yet a cat.

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Speaker 15: Cry joining me now is president of the Center for

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Speaker 15: the American Experiment and founder of the popular Powerline blog.

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Speaker 2: John Heindereiker.

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Speaker 3: John, let's start with the White House investigating former President

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's use of the auto pen with senior administration

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Speaker 3: officials reviewing tens of thousands of documents turned over by

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Speaker 3: the National Archives and Records Administration.

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Speaker 2: But the former president, he's.

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Speaker 3: Phoned The New York Times and he claims there's nothing

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Speaker 3: improper about the auto pen He told the New York

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Speaker 3: Times he hadn't personally signed the orders, including those last

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Speaker 3: presidential pardons, because there was a lot of them. What

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Speaker 3: do you make of this story, John, is there anything

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Speaker 3: to see here?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 12: Rita.

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Speaker 17: First of all, Joe Biden got ahold of the New

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Speaker 17: York Times and gave them an interview because they're trying

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Speaker 17: to get ahead of this story. They know it looks bad.

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Speaker 17: They're trying to get their version out in front of

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Speaker 17: the story. And it is ironic that Joe Biden says, well,

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Speaker 17: there were so many pardons and commutations, I couldn't possibly

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Speaker 17: sign them all. There's too many. I think he did

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Speaker 17: grant a record number of And what his staff says,

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Speaker 17: what the stories. What the story is is that Biden

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Speaker 17: didn't know the names of the individual people he was pardoning.

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Speaker 17: They would talk about people by category, and the story

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Speaker 17: is Biden would say, oh, yeah, pardon everyone in that category,

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Speaker 17: and then they'd have a list of, you know.

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Speaker 1: A thousand people, and they'd work.

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Speaker 17: The autopad and the whole process is just it's outrageous.

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Speaker 17: And one thing you'll notice, reader, is that Joe Biden

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Speaker 17: did sign his family's pardons. Personally, he knew about those

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Speaker 17: pardons and he did sign.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 3: I think that is a tell right there. I think

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Speaker 3: that was a mistake on his party. If you going

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Speaker 3: to use the auto pen, then don't make an exception

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Speaker 3: for family members.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I think that's the greatest.

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Speaker 3: Scandal of modern American history, the fact that there was

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Speaker 3: a president in the Oval office who was so cognitively

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Speaker 3: impaired that we really don't know who was running the country.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to a story that impacts Australia, with President

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump planning to increase the tariff rate on pharmaceutical

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Speaker 3: imports to the US. Last year, Australia exported around two

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Speaker 3: point one billion dollars of medicinal and pharmaceutical products to

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Speaker 3: the US, but that may change with President Trump determined

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Speaker 3: to see manufacturing return to the US.

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Speaker 18: Farmer suiticals will be tariff probably at the end of

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Speaker 18: the month, and we're going to start off with a

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Speaker 18: low tarraff and give the pharmaceutical companies a year or

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Speaker 18: so to bill and then we're going to make it

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Speaker 18: a very high traff because.

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Speaker 1: We got to move them there.

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Speaker 18: Look, there's two ways you do it. You make money

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Speaker 18: and more, and or you have them move here so

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Speaker 18: they don't have to pay the RAF. Those are the

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Speaker 18: two ways the pharmaceutical companies are moving back to America

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Speaker 18: where they should be.

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Speaker 3: John, it may not be great for Australia, but he's

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Speaker 3: not the President of Australia, and he wasn't elected on

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Speaker 3: an Australia first platform. He was elected on America first platform.

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Speaker 3: And this is precisely what he campaigned on, returning manufacturing

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Speaker 3: to the US.

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Speaker 17: So read A part of what's going on here is

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Speaker 17: that we import a huge percentage of our pharmaceuticals, especially

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Speaker 17: our generics, from China, and that's just unacceptable. We can't

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Speaker 17: be in a situation where the Chinese, at best a rival,

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Speaker 17: if not an adversary of the US, are in a

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Speaker 17: position to cut off our pharmaceuticals. And yet that's the

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Speaker 17: position that we're in. And I think to some extent

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Speaker 17: Australia might be a little bit caught on the crossfire here.

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Speaker 17: I don't mind Australia producing drugs for the US, but

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Speaker 17: I don't want to rely on the Chinese for it.

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Speaker 3: No well said, and I've got to say our government

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Speaker 3: hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in dealing with the US.

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Speaker 3: We've got an ambassador who's on record saying terrible things

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Speaker 3: about Donald Trump and the Prime Minister and some of

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Speaker 3: his ministers also, So we are I think we're in

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Speaker 3: the freezer at the moment. Now, let's move on to

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Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein saga. Earlier today, Attorney General Pam Bondi

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Speaker 3: said there's no change to her position on Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 3: after President Trump suggested she could release more files.

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Speaker 2: Do you see this as an.

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Speaker 3: Issue, John that could fracture Trump's supporter base? And why

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Speaker 3: aren't we seeing more information released?

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Speaker 17: Well, I hope not, Reta. I think we should start

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Speaker 17: with the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat. He

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Speaker 17: contributed to Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, a bunch of other Democrats.

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Speaker 17: The only politician that he's known to have had a

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Speaker 17: relationship with that was at all significant was Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 17: So it's ironic that this hot potato is now dropping

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Speaker 17: in the lap of a Republican administration that had nothing

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Speaker 17: to do with Jeffrey Epstein. But what I think is

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Speaker 17: going on here, Rita, is that there are a voluminous

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Speaker 17: investigative files related to Epstein. Now, investigative files are never released.

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Speaker 17: They aren't released, and they shouldn't be. They're full of

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Speaker 17: false accusations, of hearsay, of people telling the police things

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Speaker 17: that might be embarrassing about their observations of a crime

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Speaker 17: or whatever, but are not criminal. And it's important that

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Speaker 17: people be able to talk to the police without worrying

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Speaker 17: that anything I say might show up in the newspapers

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Speaker 17: in a couple of years. So I think that's what's happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: there are files, but they are the kind of investigative

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Speaker 17: files that are just never released.

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Speaker 2: But there was so much evidence.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was known to have cameras in so many

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Speaker 3: rooms in his mansions and on the island, and there

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Speaker 3: was just all this evidence that was captured at some point,

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Speaker 3: and you expect to see something out of that.

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Speaker 2: You expect to see some.

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Speaker 3: Of the influential, rich, powerful people that he had in

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Speaker 3: his orbit bose, But to have nothing, I think I

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Speaker 3: can understand why there's a lot of people who are

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Speaker 3: unhappy about it. On Jeffrey Epstein, former Israeli Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: and if Dai Bennett has denied that he worked with

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Speaker 3: Israeli intelligence that he was a part of moss At

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Speaker 3: in any way, John, what do you make of that?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that even that is going to convince

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Speaker 3: too many people who are interested in this case. Again,

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Speaker 3: there's so much mystery surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's rise to incredible

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Speaker 3: wealth and influence. That's something that we still not one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent clear on.

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Speaker 17: Well, Rita, maybe somebody else knows something that I don't,

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Speaker 17: But I'm not aware of any evidence whatsoever that Jeffrey

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Speaker 17: Epstein had anything to do with the Massad. That is

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Speaker 17: something that was just tossed out there by Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 17: with no supporting evidence whatsoever, and as far as I know,

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Speaker 17: there isn't any. So if somebody has got some evidence

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Speaker 17: that somehow les thanks Epstein to the Israeli government, I'd

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Speaker 17: like to see it, but as far as I know,

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Speaker 17: it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 3: Now it's evident that the President doesn't care much about

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Speaker 3: this issue. He sees it as an irritation, really a

688
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: distraction from the major issues. I think that's a mistake,

689
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Speaker 3: but you can understand because he's dealing with some fairly

690
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Speaker 3: major issues, and one of the things that he wants

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Speaker 3: highlighted is his incredible success on the border.

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Speaker 10: Have a look at this border data for the month

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Speaker 10: of June highlights the lowest month of encounters ever recorded.

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Speaker 10: Customs and Border Protection says it is the second month

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Speaker 10: in a row of zero releases of illegal aliens into

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Speaker 10: the US, compared to almost twenty eight thousand releases in

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Speaker 10: June of last year.

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Speaker 3: John, the data around illegal immigration is quite astonishing. I

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Speaker 3: don't think anyone expected that these policies, Trump's policies would

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Speaker 3: end the crisis in a matter of weeks, But that's

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Speaker 3: what's happened, and those historically low numbers are holding.

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Speaker 17: Rita. This is an unbelievable success. And you think back

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Speaker 17: to the latter days of the Biden administration where they

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Speaker 17: were saying, oh, it's impossible, you can't close the border.

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Speaker 17: We need new legislation, the Republicans won't pass new laws. Well,

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Speaker 17: it turns out, as we all suspected, Rita, that all

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Speaker 17: we needed was a president who actually wanted to do

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Speaker 17: is constitutional duty enforce the law. And once they started

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Speaker 17: enforcing the law, guess what, no more significant level of

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Speaker 17: infiltration by illegal immigrants. And now they're having great success

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Speaker 17: in convincing illegal immigrants to self deport They're doing things

712
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Speaker 17: like the Alligator Alcatraz, you know, publicizing publicizing that fability,

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Speaker 17: obviously for the purpose of inspiring people who are here

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Speaker 17: illegally to dec they'd be better off to go back

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Speaker 17: to their home countries where there are citizens.

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Speaker 2: It's been quite incredible.

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Speaker 3: There's some polling coming out saying that the deportation program

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Speaker 3: is not as popular as it once was.

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Speaker 2: I've got my doubts about those polls.

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Speaker 3: We'll check in on them next week because they do

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Speaker 3: seem to jump around the place. But we always love

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Speaker 3: your insights. John Honderaka, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 17: Tonight, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Litter Still to come, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Speak to a lesbian who is taking on the transactivists

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Speaker 3: and winning. Ril Scartcheller joins me next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Now, the almighty LGBTQIA plus plus plus community is fracturing.

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Speaker 3: This group that has enjoyed disproportionate power, disproportionate inflames in

730
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Speaker 3: recent years is splitting, with many in the lgb part lesbian's,

731
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Speaker 3: gays and bisexuals rejecting the excesses of the trans movement.

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Speaker 2: We are normal gays.

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Speaker 12: You are absolutely embarrassed by the insanity of queer ideology

734
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Speaker 12: and are announcing our departure.

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Speaker 2: If you want to keep chugging along with the people

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Speaker 2: who make everything.

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Speaker 12: About race, believe in thousands of genders and transition children, yehnest, did.

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Speaker 10: You stand for the separation between crazy and common sense?

739
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Speaker 5: And you no longer agree with the ideology of woke activism.

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Speaker 12: We are taking a stand by reposting, resharing, and refocusing

741
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Speaker 12: our energy on us.

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Speaker 3: And let's see what happened when Aril Scatcheller you saw

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Speaker 3: in that clip attended Pride in New York and sought

744
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Speaker 3: to have some sane, rational conversations. Didn't go too well.

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Speaker 3: You see, the love and tolerance mob can't even tolerate

746
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Speaker 3: lesbian a member of the lgbtquit community who is not

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Speaker 3: in favor of irreversible trans treatments for children.

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Speaker 11: Watch this, tysok Away the procedures for people to be

749
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Speaker 11: able to Supreme Court just.

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Speaker 14: Ruled on that on miners.

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Speaker 16: On miners, Yes, on miners.

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Speaker 7: You can no longer get gender affirming care under eighteen

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Speaker 7: and times.

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Speaker 16: I agree with that, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 16: LGBT people do, including a lot of my transsexual friends.

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Speaker 7: So what are trans kids supposed to do? Just sit

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Speaker 7: and wait? A lot of kids grow out of its,

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Speaker 7: kids grow out of it. So you're saying it's a choice.

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Speaker 7: You're saying it's a pase. I don't see it's coming

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Speaker 7: to New York Pride trying to say it's why were

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Speaker 7: okay with this conservative influencer trying to say that transni

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Speaker 7: is a choice? The words in my mouth? They didn't

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Speaker 7: say that. But we're just letting this happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, I fuck away from the Pride brain.

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Speaker 7: We're just gonna let this happen.

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Speaker 16: Yeh, it's freedom of speech.

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Speaker 7: I also I also didn't. I also didn't say that.

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Speaker 16: I also didn't say that.

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Speaker 7: What's the problem with if you let me talk?

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Speaker 16: If you said you're gonna calm down, you're gonna let

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Speaker 16: me talk because you're okay?

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Speaker 7: Don Is you're spreading hate? I'm gay?

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Speaker 2: Joining me now?

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Speaker 3: Is YouTuber and conservative gay activist at Ariel scotch Ella. Ariel,

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Speaker 3: were you spreading height there in New York City, just

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Speaker 3: around the corner from a Pride parade?

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Speaker 16: I mean I was a Pride parade myself, right, I'm

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Speaker 16: a lesbian. I should be allowed to be there and

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Speaker 16: I would have never thought that this little hat and

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Speaker 16: five foot one, little old.

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Speaker 14: Me would It was such a hectic day.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 16: I knew that was going to cause a hectic day.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 16: But it's crazy because New York City is supposed to

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Speaker 16: be the most liberal city in the world. Right, this

787
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Speaker 16: just proves once again what we know that leftists are

788
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Speaker 16: not actual liberals right in the true sense of the word,

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Speaker 16: which is why I made that video. You know, there

790
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Speaker 16: was a girl on TikTok that wrote to me and said, listen,

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Speaker 16: we need a day. We need to show people that

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Speaker 16: we are not like these crazy people. We're different, normal

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Speaker 16: gize and I said, let's do it. She decided to

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Speaker 16: call an Alliance Day, which is the first video you

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Speaker 16: showed on the show. And it's almost funny because the

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Speaker 16: last time I spoke to you publicly like this was

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Speaker 16: six years ago when I visited you in Australia. I

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Speaker 16: was leaving the left then, yes, and now it's just

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Speaker 16: like I'm inviting everyone else to come along and now

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Speaker 16: we have you know, we just we want to celebrate

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Speaker 16: one day you can.

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Speaker 7: Be you know, a gale.

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Speaker 16: We need alliance.

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Speaker 3: We need you back Aril for Marti Gras. Next time,

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Speaker 3: Marty grass On, you need to be back here. You

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Speaker 3: need to be wearing that cap, and hopefully this time

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Speaker 3: you will have a lot more support, because it must

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Speaker 3: be pretty confronting to have someone like that towering over

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Speaker 3: you saying you shouldn't be able to express your opinion.

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Speaker 3: These crazy activists think your opinion is the deserving of violence,

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Speaker 3: because I mean, what else do they mean when they

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Speaker 3: say are we just going to let us say that?

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna basically stop you?

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Speaker 16: I guess. I mean, even if they don't verbally say

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Speaker 16: that they're calling for violence, I think it says everything

816
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Speaker 16: that I had to hire a bodyguard with me this

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Speaker 16: time around. There are a number of other LGBT people

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Speaker 16: normal Gaze, and there are a number of other just

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Speaker 16: regular straight people that have been doing these types of

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Speaker 16: street interviews and getting physically and verbally harassed. Savannah I

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Speaker 16: forget her last name, but Savannah recently was that like

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Speaker 16: an anti abortion or a pro life rally, whatever it

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Speaker 16: was interviewing people and got punch your space.

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Speaker 7: Like this is this is?

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Speaker 16: It has come down to this, which is really sad.

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Speaker 16: So I said, you know, I'm gonna hire a bodyguards.

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Speaker 2: It is really quite terrifying. You do need a bodyguard.

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Speaker 3: But we have saying this factoring of the LGBT community.

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Speaker 3: It's not just yourself, you've been one of the leaders

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 2: Where do you think the split is right now?

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Speaker 3: The dissenting voices like yourself a small minority, or do

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Speaker 3: you represent a sizeable chunk of that community.

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Speaker 16: I think six years ago there was a very small

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Speaker 16: fraction of us, and I think now, just based on

836
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Speaker 16: how many views that one video of Alliance they got,

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Speaker 16: it blew up on every single platform. Just that alone

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Speaker 16: shows me that there's more of us now than way

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Speaker 16: more of us now than before. And I think it

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Speaker 16: comes down to three main issues. It's the lead kids

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Speaker 16: alone debate, the protect women's spaces debate, and the transsexual

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Speaker 16: versus transgender or transsexual versus gender identity debate. So it's

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Speaker 16: basically it basically comes down to biological reality and identity,

844
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Speaker 16: and a lot of these normal gays like myself are

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Speaker 16: not for any of those three things.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 16: We want to leave the kids who protect women's and

848
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Speaker 16: we believe in transsexualism, but not at the expense of

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Speaker 16: women's spaces. And kids, right, like, it all kind of

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Speaker 16: comes together, and I think the majority of I think

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Speaker 16: the majority of people are over it, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Now, the excesses of the trans movement, this obsession you

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Speaker 3: mentioned with exposing children to this ideology has really changed

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Speaker 3: people's perceptions of the community.

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Speaker 2: I know several trans people who are.

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Speaker 3: Deeply unhappy about the activists and how they've changed the

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Speaker 3: way many people see them. I think this has actually

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Speaker 3: been terrible for people who identify as trans, who don't

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Speaker 3: want to have anything to do with this activism, but

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Speaker 3: who are now viewed in a political light.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I mean, if you think about it, the majority of us,

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Speaker 16: like we always say, we're normal gains, are normal trans people.

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Speaker 16: We just want to like when we said we want

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Speaker 16: equal rights, we wanted equal rights, we wanted to assimilate

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Speaker 16: into society. That's very different than this queer movement that

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Speaker 16: has taken over and and you know, basically taken over

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Speaker 16: our movement, renamed itself and it's fighting for everything that

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Speaker 16: we disagree with, which is why we've seen the divorce

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Speaker 16: happening for quite some time now. There's I mean, there's

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Speaker 16: there's a lot of people popping up There's of course,

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Speaker 16: is Blair White. There's Buckangel like all these people. There's

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Speaker 16: Becky Weiss, there's a ton of there's a conservative aunt,

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Speaker 16: I'm sure you've heard of him.

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Speaker 1: Just a lot of normal.

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Speaker 16: I hate saying the word normal, but it's like, we

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Speaker 16: really are just like normal people that wanted wanted to

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Speaker 16: integrate into society, and we have those rights now. And

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Speaker 16: of course the queer as wellists on the other hand,

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Speaker 16: are making up all these new identities that they now

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Speaker 16: have to fight for which aren't even real.

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Speaker 3: Well, you are, your movement is gaining strength, it's gaining numbers,

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Speaker 3: it's become very much more mainstream, and we look forward

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Speaker 3: to talking to you again. Ariel sca Cella. I also

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Speaker 3: want to talk to you about what you've described as

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Speaker 3: the left's war on it to traditional family values. Will

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Speaker 3: do that next time. Thanks for your time tonight, and

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Speaker 3: that's it from me. Up next, it's Newsnight,