WEBVTT - Tina Provis Adresses THOSE Relationship Rumours

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast was recorded and produced on gadigal Land.

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<v Speaker 2>We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians and payer

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<v Speaker 2>respect to elder's past and present.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? This

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<v Speaker 3>is my final MATHS related interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they talking about me?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like yep, it was Australia's reactions paused a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of drama and they never got it. It just went nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome back to back to reality.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Selena and I'm Tany.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we have the most exciting guests. We have

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting this person so long and back to reality.

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<v Speaker 1>She has grace Dale screens many times. She not only

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<v Speaker 1>one Love Island, she was a bombshell on another season

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<v Speaker 1>one on Love Island Games. And she's just come back

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<v Speaker 1>from the jungle. She's just done. I'm a celeb. Get

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<v Speaker 1>me out of here. It is Tina Product.

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<v Speaker 3>What an intro? Ks g on the intro. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a hot minute. I've been saying please come

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<v Speaker 1>on for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>You're finally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you did, I feel like you know? Schedules looked

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<v Speaker 3>and busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, naturally now tell us everything? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? Yeah? Everything why I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you decide to go on I'm a slept

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<v Speaker 2>talk us through?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I think you know, after heading into the

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<v Speaker 3>villa one too many times, I was definitely keen to

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<v Speaker 3>do something like not many people would want to venture

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<v Speaker 3>outside the Spanish villa, like it is absolutely beautiful, But

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<v Speaker 3>for me, I just wanted to challenge myself in like

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<v Speaker 3>a new way. And honestly, I was just so excited

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<v Speaker 3>to get out of like the dating yes Tell Advised

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<v Speaker 3>Australian TV. Yeah, I just was so excited not to date.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like after like going on Love Island, it

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<v Speaker 3>really just jaded me going on dating shows. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you guys like feel the same, Like once you do one,

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<v Speaker 3>you're kind of like, where is the love of my life?

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<v Speaker 3>Like are they here?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't exist?

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<v Speaker 3>So having that pressure kind of like taken off was

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<v Speaker 3>really exciting to me. And obviously like it's for charity,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's a great pause behind it, but beyond that,

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<v Speaker 3>like being able to just do something new and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fully aware that it's like the coolest thing I will

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<v Speaker 3>ever do. Like how many times you're ever going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the middle of a jungle in South Africa,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's never gonna happen again. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty cool experience. I just couldn't say no to it. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally was thinking, because you have obviously I know you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have such a like fun personality, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like on the Love Islands you don't really see it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think people don't really know like wh you

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<v Speaker 2>are as a person. So seeing you in the challenges

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff was just like, yes, like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>teater that like we know, but like people will be like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, she's actually like funny and cute, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just cried all the time, Like on Love Island,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're just like pining over people like all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there are moments that I guess you get to

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<v Speaker 3>be yourself, but so much of like dating shows center

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<v Speaker 3>around like your relationship for sure with that other person,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like, especially as girls, I just feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we get positioned as like going after like the

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<v Speaker 3>guys a lot of the time and like that narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>So getting out of that was like so important for

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<v Speaker 3>me and getting to like show people more of who

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<v Speaker 3>I am because I feel like unless you like follow

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<v Speaker 3>me or know me, just like wouldn't get that at.

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<v Speaker 1>All because as a fellow POC, anytime I see another

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<v Speaker 1>fellow Asian on my screen, especially on Australian reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, yeah, it was so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure. I feel like even like growing up, like

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<v Speaker 3>I would like watch High Five and like Kathleen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yes, I love Kathleen. So I know,

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<v Speaker 3>like from experience, it definitely does make a difference when

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<v Speaker 3>you see people who like look like you on the

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<v Speaker 3>screens and having a solid ex experience where you get

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<v Speaker 3>time because I feel like so often I watched The

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<v Speaker 3>Bachelor and they'll be like a perc in like that

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<v Speaker 3>first cocktail party and they go up and I might

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<v Speaker 3>never see them again. In fact, they didn't even get

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<v Speaker 3>to know her name, Like where did she go? Bring

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<v Speaker 3>her back? Like that don't last that.

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<v Speaker 2>Long and there No, it's such a true point, like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you notice it more when you're like

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<v Speaker 2>actively looking on it, but then sometimes you take its

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<v Speaker 2>to back you're like, oh wow, it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the same type people on mainstream media and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay, So when you do notice that when you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing someone that's more like you or you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, yeah, that's why representation is so important, because what,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your background?

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<v Speaker 3>So my mum is from the Philippines and then my

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<v Speaker 3>dad's Caucasian. I was gonna say Astralian, Like what is that?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, my mom's pillow so I've got that in me.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, it was a big thing for me

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<v Speaker 3>being able to like play that like part in media

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<v Speaker 3>and have like diversity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well even I felt that like watching you, because

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously watched your Love Island season, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Sleigh. But also I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>always noticed when someone is like Asian or I just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're giving like an Asian vibe. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like, yeah, that she's Asian or she's one

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<v Speaker 2>of us. Yeah, so when I saw I was like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And even like going back to your time on Love Island,

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<v Speaker 2>like there was times where I felt like you'll maybe

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<v Speaker 2>mugged off.

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<v Speaker 3>Or things that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, and you had that moment when

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about like the experience of dating, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting seeing it like play out on TV as

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<v Speaker 2>well in that in that setting. But I was like, yeah, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so refreshing to see it, but also like eye

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<v Speaker 2>opening to like what the experience can be like.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I loved.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching you on this setting because it was so different.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't focusing on the dating, even though they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>The Harrison thing, I actually can't deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is not I don't what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's not a thing. Yeah, let's shut

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<v Speaker 3>that down. But anytime I like post a TikTok at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment, but where's Harrison, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>People at the beach Ba's.

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<v Speaker 3>Bond eyed I do and life saving things. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>funny because, like you, I go on I like wondered

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<v Speaker 3>if he was getting similar comments as well. So I

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<v Speaker 3>went on his like TikTok or whatever he has. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I went on Harrison's TikTok and there's like no comments

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<v Speaker 3>like asking, but on all of mine. Literally, I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like when you're a woman, like people are so interested.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to be fair, I do have like the

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<v Speaker 3>love I on background. Maybe my audience she's interested in

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<v Speaker 3>like who I'm dating. But it's just interesting that like

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<v Speaker 3>I get all the all of those comments, even in

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<v Speaker 3>like interviews I did following, like with media like like

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<v Speaker 3>what happened? I'm like, you would know if there was

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<v Speaker 3>a kiss, they would have been like producers would have

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<v Speaker 3>been right, Yes, Yeah, I did hear from some producers

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<v Speaker 3>that they were like rooting for it. I'm like for what?

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<v Speaker 3>For what? It's just not the environment to find love.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm pretty sure. Within the first like ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of Harrison being in the I walked out and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, guys, announcement, I have finally I finally done

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<v Speaker 3>a poo Yeah, I finally don't like not this chick?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we please to the pooh? Situation? Is that vultable?

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<v Speaker 2>But like so many ques situation is it like a

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<v Speaker 2>drop toilet?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it like a port? I was most interested, not interested.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the wrong word concerned. My biggest concern before

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<v Speaker 3>going in was like the toilets, like what are we

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<v Speaker 3>working with? What are we working with? And tany you

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<v Speaker 3>and I were at Beyond the Valley over New Years

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<v Speaker 3>and I was asking Callum, who obviously did.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Iland, can we just clarify Tina did not tell

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<v Speaker 2>me before going to the jungle. I saw it live,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this bitch has lied. Wait, don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why I didn't ask where you were going because

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<v Speaker 2>you've been away weeks on time. I was like, slack,

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<v Speaker 2>she's going another brand trip or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And I watched.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god. But at BTV we

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<v Speaker 2>were chatting about it and you brought it up, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like seeing. I was like, what item would

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<v Speaker 2>you bring and just having this like wholesome conversation, not

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<v Speaker 2>realizing she's going into the jungle, and then I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>how uncomfortable will you felt.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't film CUMF because I brought it up because

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to know about the toilet. I asked Callum

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<v Speaker 3>like it was, what are the toilets like? And he

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<v Speaker 3>threw me off because he said it was like a pulley.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like a bucket.

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<v Speaker 2>He was saying, it was a bucket of ship and

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<v Speaker 2>then you pull it up and you'd have to take

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<v Speaker 2>it and pull it up like a thingy and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I took out of it, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have to empty the bucket into like another hole somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, ew, I would just.

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<v Speaker 1>Not prove it the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>He made it sound worse, but it is bad. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a pulley because it's a drop toilet. Why would

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<v Speaker 3>that happen? So basically from the top it is like

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<v Speaker 3>a drop toilet situation, but it looks like a toilet

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<v Speaker 3>seat and stuff is like charcoal and sawdus, so you

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<v Speaker 3>put the sawdust after you like go, so that like

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<v Speaker 3>absorbs the charcoal masks the scent. I feel like that

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<v Speaker 3>stretched to say that it's doing either of those shings,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's in theory of what it should sit doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then each morning there's like a rotation of chores

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<v Speaker 3>we all do, and cleaning the TOIDs is one. But

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<v Speaker 3>all you have to do is you like go down

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. There's like a little door you un lock

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<v Speaker 3>and there is a bucket a poo. You like, you

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<v Speaker 3>got a lid before you skid, is what we say,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want any overflow. So my god, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but you put gloves up. We would put gloves on,

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<v Speaker 3>like pull it out and then you like take shapes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>poo gloves. I did it like three times, which I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like was enough. If I was there for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five days, I'm like, that's my bit. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to do it, so then I had the

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<v Speaker 3>full experience, feel like I was doing something and you

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<v Speaker 3>do it by yourself, would you? I had to have

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<v Speaker 3>someone help me because it was so heavy and like

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<v Speaker 3>the whe is like sloshing around. It's just like so on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the mixture of the both textures and smells.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm constipated, So why am I picking

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<v Speaker 3>up all of your poop? Because I can't even sort

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<v Speaker 3>my own business out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be terrified to pooh in that environment because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, no, it's not right, not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys watched Too Hot to

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<v Speaker 2>Handle Chloe On Too Hot to Handle had to go

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<v Speaker 2>to hospital because she refused to pooh the whole time

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<v Speaker 2>and then she had like an infection because she just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't pooh.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>She was panicking about being in a group settings and

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<v Speaker 2>not pooing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, fair enough, I did that. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was fifteen, I went on a holiday with my first

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend and there was a hurricane or a cyclone, so

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<v Speaker 3>they like, weren't you weren't you couldn't flush the toilets

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason. You had to go down to the

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<v Speaker 3>rab a hole bucket of water and then manually do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, I'm not going to make an announcement

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but that I need to go. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>was mortified, like at fifteen in your first relationship as

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<v Speaker 3>far as your boyfriend's concerned as girls don't pooh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was running with that narrative at that point

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<v Speaker 3>and I came back to Australia and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not well. The stomach was like protruding. It was so

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't risk it in the jungles, like we're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing this again.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to know about periods though, How does

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<v Speaker 1>that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you tell the juices? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like so period I can't do any shark or crocodile.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, true, I don't know if there's sharks and

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<v Speaker 3>like crocodiles and crocodiles true, true, they can smell. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm on the pil So I was like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way. Yeah, absolutely whistling even in there. We're gonna skip,

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna skip. But I think what the situation was

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<v Speaker 3>there was like a little like box with sanitary things

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<v Speaker 3>in it. But I'm pretty sure, you couldn't chuck that

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<v Speaker 3>in the drop toilet. You had to like just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like place it back in the paper bag and

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<v Speaker 3>the next day when you're emptying out the things, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you like, I don't know, yeah, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>there was things in place, but the recommendation would be

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<v Speaker 3>like they didn't say that you had to, but it's easier,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you can skip away period.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, which I love period on im Like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta that stresses That's what's always stressed me out

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I'm like, oh my god. Some of the challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of the first ones you did, you were

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<v Speaker 1>in a tank water and it was freezing cold. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, my pad would have been soaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, imagine pads just like floating in the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like in the water. Is that a start, right? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I wouldn't recommend like, if your ladies

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<v Speaker 3>are planting on heading in, don't bring your packets. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you've gotta I think you've gotta make the switch

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<v Speaker 3>to tampons to feel more secure. You can get if

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<v Speaker 3>you're swimwear. Actually you can only bring in like six

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<v Speaker 3>pairs of underwear.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to ask about, okay, six six pairs,

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<v Speaker 2>how you wash them?

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<v Speaker 3>Just like my hands. You get so you get like

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<v Speaker 3>this eco soap because we love the environment, but everything

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<v Speaker 3>goes back into the water pretty much like there's like

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<v Speaker 3>this cute little stream and you like wash me there,

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<v Speaker 3>but everything goes into it. So you get soap, which

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not convinced is so like it doesn't start. It's

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel like it's cleaning. You just have to live

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<v Speaker 3>with the fact that you get filthy, like sometimes we will.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there too much charge left ere? And you just

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<v Speaker 3>have to live with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just like shampoo toothpaste? Is that provided?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all Yeah, so everyone gets the same thing going in.

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<v Speaker 3>So all you go in with is like your backpack

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<v Speaker 3>with like two pairs of pants, two T shirts. I

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<v Speaker 3>was under the impression we were getting double the amount.

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<v Speaker 3>That was not the case. There was one pair of shorts,

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<v Speaker 3>one pair of long pants. I'm like, oh, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not enough options. It's hot, and then you hand wash everything,

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<v Speaker 3>so you just pretty much like live in your own fields.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would go wash my hands and by the

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<v Speaker 3>time I got back to my bed, I was like

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<v Speaker 3>my hands are dirty again, Like what is this? What

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<v Speaker 3>is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no sunny or anything either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, was there anyone that was really smelly?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to name names.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you wouldn't me. I actually I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I smelled. I think if you were a producer

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<v Speaker 3>and you came in, you probably would have thought you

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<v Speaker 3>guys all stink like crap. But because we're all just

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<v Speaker 3>living in it, you didn't smell much. I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there's a fire burning at all times, which I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think about, Like the fires on like all day.

0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.480
<v Speaker 3>We just leave it on, so it takes too long

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<v Speaker 3>to like, yeah, start a fire. So the fire is

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<v Speaker 3>just like on the whole day. If you're cooking, you're

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<v Speaker 3>like sweating. So we'll say, the more you cook, the

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<v Speaker 3>more you would like smell because you're like, oh really

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<v Speaker 3>over okay, But you're doing a good deed, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>anything goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Was devastated because there was no celebrity chef this time.

0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, always ad making a chef, but

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Thirday was so good, which I think he's secretly

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<v Speaker 3>just like what's the chef? Because he's done a cooking

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<v Speaker 3>show before. He's done celebrity, come down with me and

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<v Speaker 3>he won. Oh yes, okay, so and he like was

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<v Speaker 3>debooning the fish like we would get given some like

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<v Speaker 3>you win thirteen stars, but then you get given something

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen, never seen in your life. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think one day we had thirteen stars, which is like

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<v Speaker 3>the maximum you can get, and two black chickens came out.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never black chicken, but everything on it is black,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's beak is black, it's legs as black, like

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<v Speaker 3>its feet is black and their whole so you just

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<v Speaker 3>have to like like chop it. I'm buying little chicken

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<v Speaker 3>breast at the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not feathers like you have to pluck.

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<v Speaker 3>No feathers to pluck. But it was just bizarre, like

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<v Speaker 3>no meat on it, like the food you were getting

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<v Speaker 3>even though you just didn't know what you were going

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<v Speaker 3>to get. It wasn't like, oh, you're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>like this crumbed chicken. Now chicken, it's like maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>beans and rice is better off. Yeah, the meat was good,

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<v Speaker 3>like it was just good to like try so much

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<v Speaker 3>like different stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Though proteins what was like the worst thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to eat as part of a dinner anything

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<v Speaker 3>I did an eating challenge. So my eating challenge was

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing that came out was a brain, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought, this is just so unwell, like why

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<v Speaker 3>am I doing this? Not on but my biggest beer

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<v Speaker 3>going into it was an eating challenge, So I was

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<v Speaker 3>glad that I got one, because otherwise I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I would have felt like I had that whole like

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<v Speaker 3>the so I was because I'm sick in the head.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of a little bit glad that I

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<v Speaker 3>got an eating challenge. But then the brain came out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh God, and we were actually in

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<v Speaker 3>So there was a week where we had a boys

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<v Speaker 3>versus girl situation which we can talk about, but we

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<v Speaker 3>had to go up against the guys in our eating challenge,

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<v Speaker 3>which felt just so stressful, like Sam Thaday is such

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<v Speaker 3>a gun. Like I remember Reggie couldn't eat one of

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<v Speaker 3>her worms. We had to eat in a worm. We

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<v Speaker 3>had to eat a worm like one night, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'll eat yours for you, Regge, and he

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<v Speaker 3>just ate two worms like no issue on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>He like sculled that like rank drink in like one gulf.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my, I just don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>capacity to do that.

0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.800
<v Speaker 3>But I was lucky because I went against Harrison first

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<v Speaker 3>on this brain and he just has a weak stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like suffering. He was like crying. Oh he

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<v Speaker 3>was eating it. I was kind of like, is this

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<v Speaker 3>pate pato is like pretty gross in theory? Yeah it is,

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:06.120
<v Speaker 3>but like a path Totty's, we need to go get

0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.159
<v Speaker 3>the Totty's pate. Ah. That stuff is so good. But

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm going to be thinking of brain brain So

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<v Speaker 3>that was pretty bad. But having that like time limit

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<v Speaker 3>on it was good because the men you just had

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, go, go, go and then. But the

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<v Speaker 3>worst thing I think, I think the rats tale. I've

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<v Speaker 3>told you about the Rats tel.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw that rat come out on the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're eating a rat?

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<v Speaker 3>No way, Like I was like, that's horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>That too.

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<v Speaker 3>I started I was crying, like, I started like bawling

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought this, I feel like this goes against

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<v Speaker 3>my values to eat a rat on TV, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to push again like the fur because the

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<v Speaker 3>because Sam Samada had to eat and so did Nikki.

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<v Speaker 3>They ate. One of the things that others ate was

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<v Speaker 3>this eyeball, but had an eyelid as well. The lashes.

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<v Speaker 3>They ate lashes. I feel like feeling that's that's gross,

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually fair. I think that's worse. Like I was

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<v Speaker 3>lucky that I didn't have that. And then the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing we ate, which I found challenging. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 3>but I really struggled was balls. I don't know what

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.520
<v Speaker 3>they were balls the testicles belonged to. There were testicles

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.640
<v Speaker 3>of boar testicles, maybe bore testicles. But it reminded me.

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<v Speaker 2>Of just like what was the texture like like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like that log of dog food, but like hard

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<v Speaker 3>because I feel like dog food. I'm like, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>sad if like I can't eat dog food, and then

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<v Speaker 3>our dogs eating dog food.

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<v Speaker 2>My dog gets fresh mint, so she's actually, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a dog. That's just kind of what it reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me of. But I think the idea that was like

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<v Speaker 3>testicles and I was like ripping it apart with her hands,

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<v Speaker 3>like try to eat it. And then I had that

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<v Speaker 3>like shot. It was like a fish thing was it

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<v Speaker 3>like it has bones in it? It has like a

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<v Speaker 3>little tiny fish bones like you know, and not well

0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 3>is like a delicacy. I think, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>In some there's a try like a fermented fish that

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, but it didn't look like no, but

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<v Speaker 2>you put it in salads and stuff in the way

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<v Speaker 2>they make it, it's really yummy like stuff. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>fish sauce. I was like, that's doable, but it's the glugginess.

0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.320
<v Speaker 2>It's it's the tie versions called bala, which is like

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 2>marinated fish. It's kind of stinky and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>coisteners don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cambodians, I'm half Cambodian, we have howk.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar, it's similar, and you put it in like salads.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a you can either use a juice or

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<v Speaker 2>you have the this it's like a whole thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>I can and they must have blended that up. I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking that that's doable, but not with the fish bones.

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<v Speaker 3>There was kind of the bones, but so much of

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<v Speaker 3>the time of the eating challenges. I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>a delicacy somewhere. Yeah, and it's all about like the context.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm trying to tell myself. And sauce fine

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. If I on like we're chewing, it

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.919
<v Speaker 3>would be done, Like give me some tomato sauce. I

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.160
<v Speaker 3>put tomato sauce on everything like i'd be I would

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 3>have jungle would have been so easy. There was slado saus.

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I would have smuggled in. I reckon a little

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 2>macus sweet and sour or like a barbecue.

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would have smuggled. I didn't realize people, actually,

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize people actually smuggled things in. I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was like a production bit and like they

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<v Speaker 3>would like give you your thing, and like that's what you

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 3>smuggle in because like people are walking around with like

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 3>cad Cadbury blocks in previous seasons. So my mind, I'm like,

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.120
<v Speaker 3>how would you get that in? But you literally rock

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.280
<v Speaker 3>in on your person, Like I'm wearing my like dress

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:33.679
<v Speaker 3>and I'm coming in. I'm like, how am I going

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 3>to bring anything in? So what I ended up doing

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:41.119
<v Speaker 3>was running around my like accommodation before I went in,

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 3>grabbing things from the kitchen randomly because I was like, wait, crap,

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't have anything, and like I need to bring

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.959
<v Speaker 3>something in, Like what am I doing? So what I

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<v Speaker 3>did was I cut, you know, like in a sports

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.360
<v Speaker 3>but like I cut like a hole in the sports

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 3>like behind the cup, and I like stuffed all these

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<v Speaker 3>like lollies in there, like hardboard lollies because I felt

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 3>like they wouldn't melt. And then I also had like

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 3>a glad bag of coffee and cocoa powder like mixed together.

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 3>But then I was too scared to get them out.

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.679
<v Speaker 3>So I never even had my own contraband because I

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 3>was too scared. I was like, I don't want trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get in trouble. I'm such a

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 3>stickler for rules because I thought, O, if we get

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 3>in trouble, like I don't want to be like the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why. Yeah, in the end, they were like, all right,

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 3>you're all in trouble, like get it all out. And

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.080
<v Speaker 3>then we just had to like eat everything as fast

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 3>as and I've never felt like so sick. Like I

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 3>was just sitting by the bucket like pouring it into

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<v Speaker 3>my mouth. I'm like, this is not a good look.

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 3>This is my rock bottom. It's out of my sports

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 3>brass literally literally. But then some people had it like

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.480
<v Speaker 3>strapped to their body and stuff, like think Maddie J

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 3>had like those protein balls like strapped, he like got

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 3>tape and strapped. Yeah, and like in his jocks and stuff,

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 3>apparently of her.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was it like with all the celebs, Like

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 2>were you nervous with the dynamic because everyone's from diffferent

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 2>walks of life, from different Like it's so random the

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>mix of people. What was that experience like, because you

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>never would really be around people ever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what makes the show and the format

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<v Speaker 3>so great because you get such an interesting mix of

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 3>people and they're like spheres would never normally type. Do

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 3>you think at the crux of it, everyone is a

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 3>good person, which is what's really nice. They're not there

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 3>to like have a villain or anything like that. So

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>you get a really nice mix of people. And I

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 3>think it's just because there's nothing else going on, there's

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 3>an opportunity for you to really get to know people

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 3>on a level that you just never would Like I

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>just didn't think I would be sitting down with like

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Dave Hughes, like talking about my relationship problems, Like he's

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 3>giving me dating advice, like what's going on? Like you

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 3>just wouldn't expect it. I didn't expect him to be

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know why I expect him

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to be completely different vibe, so did I.

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I love him, like, I feel like he was such

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 3>a nice energy to be around, and like having comedians

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.920
<v Speaker 3>like there was Geraldine and Dave in there, and they

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 3>were just it's just nice to have some laughs, like

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 3>we've got nothing, We've got literally nothing else going on.

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I just like to have a little bit of a laugh.

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 3>So it was so nice having that mix, and I think, yeah,

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 3>there are the dynamic at the start I like struggled

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 3>with because first off, I'm coming in like from Love Island,

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 3>so basically no one knows who I am. Basically the situation,

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 3>no one knows who I am, so I'm going in

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 3>with that. They don't know much about Love Island. They're

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 3>probably like who is this, Like chim in a wonder,

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 3>like what is she doing in here? So I kind

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.439
<v Speaker 3>of had that and that's probably my own insecurities as well,

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 3>like they're not thinking about it like that. But that's

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 3>how I kind of went into it, like feeling a

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>bit like out of place, like fostra syndrome. And then

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 3>the other thing was I at the time when I

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 3>went in, I was the only like single person in there,

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 3>so I genuinely just felt like no one cared about

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 3>anything I had to say, because small talk is like

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 3>how did you meet your partner? Sure, where did you

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 3>meet your partner? Like how old are your kids? Yeah,

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 3>it's not intentional, it's just what's interesting. I'm finding myself

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>asking people those questions. So I felt like people didn't

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 3>really know how to I just noticed at first, and

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure if any they're I don't think they're going

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 3>to listen to this, But if they did, I feel

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 3>like no one asked me like a question, Like the

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.719
<v Speaker 3>first sale was like, no one's asking me anything. But

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 3>it was just that first layer of small talk. Once

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 3>that chipped away, I feel like there was so much

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 3>more space for like deeper, deeper conversations as you were

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 3>all spiraling at that point.

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>There was one deep conversation that really hit home for me,

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And when you cried, I cried. I feel like, well,

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us in the room here I have

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>faced this issue because you talk about a lot about

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>your internal struggles of facing racism growing up in Australia, Like,

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>can you share a little bit more about that?

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a I've only really

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 3>come to reflect on at the end of my twenties,

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and I think there's, like, in hindsight, so much of

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 3>my early twenties I was just insecure and like doubting

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 3>myself a lot. And I think having gone on Love

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.959
<v Speaker 3>Island that kind of gave me a lot of confidence

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 3>because I honestly felt like it was a running track

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 3>in my mind that I was a token in there,

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I felt that like from when I got on,

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't have an issue with that. I was like, okay, cool,

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Like they needed an Asian person on it, and that's

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 3>going to be me. But I didn't think I would

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 3>get far because of my own internalized racism and my insecurities.

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought, no one's going to pick me because of

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 3>my race, because of my background. And I guess that

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 3>just shows like a real world scenario in an amplified environment,

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Like those are things that you go through high school

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>thinking about yourself, through your dating life. You're always wondering

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 3>like if that is going to affect who you're with.

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think going on Love Island and having that

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>such a positive experience let me kind of see beyond that.

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 3>But I think as I've kind of moved past that,

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 3>there's still like so much to work through because on

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 3>the other hand, I didn't feel like I fit in

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 3>with like the other girls, like even like in our industry. Yeah,

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 3>like I do feel like an outlier sometimes, and I

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of those insecurities. While I can recognize

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 3>them now, it doesn't mean I've moved past them, because

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in my everyday like dating life, I'm

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 3>so conscious of it. Like I remember my cousin tried

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 3>to set me up with a friend and she told

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 3>him like that I'd been on Love Island, and my

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 3>first thought was, like, oh my god, why did you

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 3>tell him that He's gonna think I'm like this, like

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 3>blue eyes, like blonde girl, like big boobs or something

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>like he's gonna think of something crazy. Not that everyone

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 3>on love even looks like that. I just feel like

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>that is like the stereotype, the stereotype, and I find

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 3>like I'm really nervous if someone and hasn't met me,

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 3>like for shot, they will like think of me. And

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.479
<v Speaker 3>I've just been like trying to like spend a lot

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 3>of time like working through that, and there's still so

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>much more to it because I feel like I grew

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>up like rejecting my culture, like I don't know how

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 3>you guys kind of feel towards that. But I look

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 3>back now and I'm like, there are so many parts

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>that I feel like I shied away from and tried

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 3>so hard to be white and like be like connected

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>to more that side of my dad's side of my family,

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and like now I look back and I just find that,

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 3>like so sad.

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. I mean on my season, we all

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>saw my person preferred, you know, the more Caucasian that

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was wide Yeah, and then I don't know, I didn't

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>actually see it and hear it because it's like I

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>felt to watch it because I was like, this is

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a vibe this guy's giving to me, just knowing where

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.719
<v Speaker 1>he grew up and knowing the type of pep be around.

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>I just had that fee Northern Beaches.

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 3>So this is so funny because I do. So I

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 3>made a comment I think at the time, like when

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>your episode, Like when that episode aired, I feel like

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 3>I was with Jane Lewis.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember seeing that the Owner show.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Everyone yes, and I think I we were just talking

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>about how out of pocket it was and inappropriate and

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 3>just sad that someone would make that comment so freely,

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Like what are you really thinking if that's what you

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 3>think is like socially acceptable to say that you have

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 3>an issue with, like you're dealing with someone's race. It's

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.959
<v Speaker 3>like a barrier to like connect.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 2>And it was so like because you were like, I'm

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>not getting what I'm getting out of this conversation. I'm

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 2>going to ask directly. The fact you had to get

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>to that point first of all was crazy, but then

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the response, like I was just like too stunned to speak.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 3>So he was at my cousin's wedding, my good friends,

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 3>what my cousin, what is going on my cousin his day?

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't even think you would know him. Okay, it

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>was like a gay wedding, a beautiful gay wedding. But

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 3>there I think his part now my cousin's partner, his

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 3>close friends or maybe I don't know.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Actually I do know this person. Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 3>His name's Calum. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, they're very close,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 3>so lovely, but they're like best friends.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>That's just so bizarre to me because I'm so confused

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 3>because Callum's so lovely. But yeah, and I saw him there.

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm not going to acknowledge because he

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>would have seen that video, like what I said, of course, yeah,

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>he's probably not in his algorithm, probably not just to

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 3>work for him.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But there was a scene where I

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>was crying and I was like, it's not my I'm Asian.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was like the same when I was watching

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you when you were like, I just wish I was white,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's literally what we're saying to ourselves. Yeah, which

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is so sad.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like I think from my experience, because I

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>look white, I've never had the I find nat because

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like people assume I'm just white because I don't

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>look as Asian as like my relatives and you know,

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>my sister and stuff. So it's interesting because I think

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>people then feel like they can make a little comment

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>because they think that they can connect with you because

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you look it's like no, like I'm actually Asian, and

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>then it's the whole thing, like I have to justify

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>my Asian nest to people.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, though, I found people just make

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>those comments because they don't even realize because I get

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 3>those comments and then I'll be like like I remember

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 3>like growing up, you would like take photos and then

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>someone in the group would be like oh my god,

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I look so Asian, and and I'd be like, oh

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 3>my god, so do I sorry, but you're like a

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 3>hot age yea the whole, but you don't look Asian

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>or like you don't look People say that to me,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, are you okay? Obviously do don't? What

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 3>else do I look right now? Are you blind?

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It's really it's an interesting like dynamic because it's like

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it from like the perspective, so I kind

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.719
<v Speaker 2>of get the whole feelings round. But it's yeah, it's

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>weird to then feel like I'm justifying that because then

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like when I'm in space with Asian people,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I would say that, like I'll make a comment and

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 2>they'll be like, oh wait, you can't say that. I

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, like I am, and then they're like

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>but then the vibe also changes like oh okay, cool.

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's interesting, but it's like again like I

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>relate to like trying to hide it because I felt

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>like anytime it came up, like when I could speak

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>another language, I was put in like ESL classes at school,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>and then I felt like you're being punished because you're

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>in like the dumb class or you know, and it

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>just was like but I can speak like, I can

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>speak both fine.

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>So it was weird because I felt like I would

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 3>try and like hide it.

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And it was easy for me because I you know,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I looked like just like another Caucasian kid, and there

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't many Asian people at school, Like there was like

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>a handful I literally had me.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like literally someone else. Yeah, there was like three people.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>There's like literally lectures you can come hand yeah, which.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I think makes a difference and like, and it's different.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Now for sure, Like it's so much more multicultural. Even

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like in the ere I grew up, there's more Asian

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>restaurants and more like even just other like cultures. It

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>was very predominantly white the area I grew up in,

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>But now it's things have changed. It's like twenty years later,

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's more, yeah's diversity, but it's like it's still

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>like a thing you notice in media and stuff like

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>that there's representation elsewhere, but in those mainstream spaces we

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>see it more limited. So it was good that you

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>had that platform to be able to like, you know,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 2>have the conversation and like talk about in that setting

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and kind of share your experience, because I think where

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>else would we see that conversation going, you know exactly.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's hard to like have those conversations and honestly,

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 3>you just kind of like forget the cameras are on

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>and totally just having like a DMM likesurens and I

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 3>hadn't really spoken, like I've done some bits over the

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 3>past year, like with writings and stuff and articles that

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>are written, but I haven't like spoken about it and

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>speaking about it with people who don't relate to it

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>is interesting, Like obviously it's met like with a positive reception,

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>but so much of the time, Like I actually received

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>a DM today from like someone I apparently went to

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 3>high school with that I don't remember. I checked, and

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I think we went to high school for like one

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>year and I've never seen him in my life, Okay,

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 3>but he messaged me. He was like, you know, like

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 3>I heard about your story on I'm a Celema. I

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>just want to say, like, from like my perspective, like

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I never viewed it like that, and I always thought

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 3>you like a gorgeous, kind beautiful girl. But I'm also like,

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 3>you don't know me, so where did that come from?

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't think we went to school together because the school

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 3>that he said he was from I only went to

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 3>one year. So I feel like he's got another image,

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 3>like people don't even I think.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>From I'm not trying to attack people for like having

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>treated you a certain way, but it's like a wider

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>issue of how.

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Like don't feel people don't understand like microaggressions for sure,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>comments that they make, and how they add up. And

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I think when you tell someone your story of like,

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, I felt different at school. I felt like

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I had this kind of like beauty standard that I

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>was working towards. And then people from your past may

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 3>be like, but you weren't bullied or you weren't this,

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 3>but you don't understand if you're going to make little

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 3>comments like, oh, that photo's awful of me, I look

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Asian in that Friday, then that makes me feel a

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>certain way occasion it makes you feel like the way

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 3>you look is wrong. So I feel like, on the

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 3>one handley like I can imagine like there are so

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 3>many boys in high school that are probably like, why

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 3>did she say that boys were means her in high school?

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Like because you don't even realize doing that and I'd

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 3>like to hope that it's really different in schools these days,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 3>but I honestly just don't know because kids are so mean.

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they say.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, then they've got social media. Now they're even worse

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and the convers but the conversations aren't being had. And

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why when we do see these moments or even

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>like on Maths this season, when we're having these racial conversations,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>that it's just there and then it's not unpacked, it's

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>not discussed, it's not it's just like, Okay, these guys

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>said a bit of a racist thing. Let's not talk

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>about how it's probably in appropriate to make a common

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>problematic occasions. So it's like, Okay, you're not being like

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I still think it's racist, but you're not being like

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>outwardly racist calling names.

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 3>But it's still like the general tone is I think

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 3>it is undertone? Yeah, it's undertone.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, how do you explain that undertone and those

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>microaggressions to people that they don't get it? Like I

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>like from my season of Maths, and we've gotten into

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>these little comments that the husbands would make, like Sandy

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Bean called two Indian and like making comments about like

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the food she would eat. That to me is racist

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's micro like not even like the two

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Indian comment is like crazy, isn't.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 3>What I mean? But what I mean?

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And I would ask it back and they'd just be

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like crickets. It's like, for real, it is racist.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Don't notice things. Or I remember on my season of

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Love Island, I was coupled up at the start with

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 3>a guy that would just say like some random things.

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 3>And I think one night he we were talking about

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>like when you get like drunk eyes, like when you've

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 3>had a bit to drink, and he made a comment

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 3>about how like he looks Asian or like how no,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>actually he said to me, or your drunk eyes would

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 3>be like a lot because like because you're Asian, because

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 3>your eyes are already like and I was like oh,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And at that point I was like, you're not my husband, No,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not me. But I wasn't offended by it because

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 3>I saw that it's been ignorant. It's just just ignorant.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:05.919
<v Speaker 3>And I just pulled it up and I was like, hey,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 3>that's like not an appropriate comment to make. It's fool

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>with me in this circumstance. But you might say it

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 3>to someone who's not in the place that I am,

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 3>and that's not cool. And his comeback was, but I

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 3>have his friends who are aged.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm not racist, but no, and it's like you're

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>probably your one Asian friend.

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>It's so bizarre. But I think it's just like those

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 3>little things that I guess hopefully if we talk about

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>things more than those conversations like trickle down shore, people

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 3>are more aware of the conversations they're having, the comments

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>that they make, and then that's kind of where the

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 3>real difference is. So going on something like I'm a

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 3>celeb and having a conversation on that platform where you

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>know what, like I'm thinking about the audience broke down

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 3>like families. It's very family and I'm hoping like that

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 3>that kind of like makes it down because when you're

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 3>on TikTok or Instagram and you're using your platform to

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>talk about things that are important to you, it is

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 3>only making it to the people who are interested in

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>that content. Like the way the algorithm works, you can

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>have like a strong stance on something, but unless that

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.919
<v Speaker 3>person's algorithm is feeding to them, then it doesn't see

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 3>the light of day. So being able to talk about

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 3>it on a platform that will go beyond you know

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>who my audience is. Was something that was important to me,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>not luckily.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I just want to touch base real quick on I

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys go through this, but like

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like being Asian in Australia, like in the

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>dating scene, I either get fetish fetish sized or like

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to bar me at all.

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Spiral about this.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Or Tina made me spiral with this point the dating

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 2>app thing.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 3>So basically on like all dat like not working. And

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I like dating apps because I find

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 3>them used to Like I'm a busy girl, like the

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 3>dating apps. Respect the dating apps. I'm on them all

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 3>my dates last year dating apps, So like respect the

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>dating apps.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>But however, however, we got a point to raise because

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I tested this theory out and you're right, thank you.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 3>So you can actually go on and filter through so

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 3>you can filtered by age location, but you can filtered

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>by race, which I just think, why are we promoting this?

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just unnecessary. I feel like you are making it

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 3>into something it doesn't need to be sure if you're

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 3>putting it as a feature. Okay, the argument could be

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 3>like but there are people on this platform that want

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 3>that feature. There's a demand for it, but I feel

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 3>like you're encouraging a lens that doesn't need to exist.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 3>And I just think as an app like you need

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>to do better and remove that.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's a conversation thing. Like also you can kind

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>of get a general vibe at what someone looks like,

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe where their cultural background lies. But that's something you

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>would like, you'd want to chat on the first seg

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>what's your background?

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Like do you know what I mean? But when we had.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>This chat, and I had because I always go through

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>phase of deleting, that spiraled, but I initially went through

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a phase of having race as Asian on the apps.

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>The significant amount of likes versus me not disclosing that

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>was huge.

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 3>That's really I tested it out. I'm crazy. Yeah, you

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>should put a black wig on.

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 2>But it's like people just like filtering out the Asian people.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 3>It's hard as well, because if I was to meet

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>someone like, honestly, you know what I'll take like love Island.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 3>My first sis is a Love Island finished with my

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 3>partner at the time, if he had seen me on

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 3>an app, there is no way he would have swiped right.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>He liked to tell me over and over again that

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't his normal type, which just means I'm Asian.

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm Asian, let's say it. But if I was on

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 3>an app, he never would have swiped right. I can

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 3>safe to assume, and I think it's a shame like

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 3>on dating apps, like everyone's making a judgment. I make judgments.

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 3>All we have is no one's reading the prompt. If

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't like what I see, then I'm not. Let's

0:39:55.080 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 3>not jokeeah, let's be real. But I think having that

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>feature there, I'm wondering, now, am I getting screened before

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 3>you even see what I look like? Because on the

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 3>one hand, you're being screened for your looks, so there's

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 3>that yep, But now there's an element of oh, but

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 3>my race is an option. It's an option for you

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 3>to do. Like the app has made that capability for

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 3>you to screen out. You could just have it as Caucasian,

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 3>like if you want to, but to what you.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Said, yeah, what you said to you. Then if you

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>get the fetishiest people, they can then just go into

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like their Phasian, which is just like it's yes, really yuh.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, it's like even like my cousin's

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 2>experience because she's full tie. She had the same experience

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 2>as you. And we've spoke about this and it's it's

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 2>like one or the other. Yeah, and it's just like

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>this is just not great. It just makes me when

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I look back at their history and all of it.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that guys.

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I one of my, like my only exes that I

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 3>would like speak positively positively of, like we had on

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 3>good terms. This is like I was twenty years old.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a long time ago, but ever since me, all

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>of his girlfriends now have been Asian. This confuses me.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 3>He's such a nice guy though, but I'm like, I

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>guess it's me. I'm like that weirds me out my

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 3>photo still photos are there and he never posts Instagram,

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>so I'm like, I'm next to that. I'm like, oh no,

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 3>that's so weird to delete.

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>It gave him yellow fever.

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's so funny how it's. I think racial preferences

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to dating is problematic in itself, Like

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>obviously you have your preferences when it comes to heights.

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 3>I've had to really check myself in honesty, Like I

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 3>feel like it's myself. But also I feel like having

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>gone through like internalized racism, I feel like that has

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 3>an effect on my dating, like I shy way from

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 3>like like I feel like I find myself making judgments

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 3>on people because of like how I've like treated myself

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 3>or like even like if someone's like why, then I think, oh, well,

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 3>what will you think of me? And like what where

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 3>they're from? Like you make all of those judgments for sure.

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Morey was judging. No, we're always judging on the dating

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>A list. We judge on the dating apps. Everyone, do

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>be listening seriously.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of love, ilan Xes, was there anyone that

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you were that you were potentially concerned about coming in

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the job because we were chatting about this and the

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>panic that I had for you, maybe the hint of

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a certain person might have been entering because the trauma

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that you've been through times two to talk us through that.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, there's a certain snake I was worried about entering

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 3>the jungle, but they were never to be seen trauma

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 3>because like I'm not done like one, not two, but

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 3>three shows with my ex and like we have like

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 3>no contact, no relationship by now at this point, because

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I just realized the friendship didn't exist, so it wasn't

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 3>serving me. But I was so like mortified and at

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>the start of the year, like I had friends being

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>like he's not posting on social media, Like he's not posting.

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, where is this guy? Like I wouldn't

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 3>have spoken to you.

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were speaking about it was all our last

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 2>message is our last messages were like because we thought

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 2>he was potentially going on another show, and then we

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>were talking about this and then I was like, hang on.

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I was then like, you're probably panicking.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Because he was thinking he was going to go with

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 2>your shows and I didn't have that context at the time.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, oh no, what if they've

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>done this stitch up again? And then he's entering in.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 3>What they started. They thought it was very funny because

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like panicking, like while I was there, and

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>like when you're when you first get to South Africa,

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>you have like a chaperone and they like look after

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 3>you and your like accommodation and Unknowingly I must have

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 3>been stressing because she in the background had text production

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 3>and asked if she could give the final like he's

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 3>not here, he's not here, And then one day, she

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>was like, Hey, I just want to let you know,

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 3>like I've got the all clear to tell you like

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 3>he's not here. And that made it through, Like even

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 3>when the psych like visits, you like before you go in,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 3>like to have like a little chat before you go in.

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>He and he's known me for years because it's like

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 3>the same production company as Love Island. So he was like, yes,

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I heard that you were very nervous. He's laughing, he's laughing,

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 3>like you're crazy. No not, but it's a valid thing.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think she'd mind me saying this.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>But one of the girls on my season was was

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 2>going on your season of I'm a Cleb. She ended

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>up pulling out.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 3>You did tell me? Yes, you think she spoke anyway?

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she has been Bronti okay, so Bronti should have come.

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Well I thought you was like you guys could have vibed.

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Was shame.

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 2>So Brontie was meant to go on your season will

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 2>chatting about it. She ended up pulling out because she

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 2>had anxiety around her partner going on the show. Because

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>there was a teaser that said like something at first sight,

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 2>it was like the jungle peep. It was like who's

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.919
<v Speaker 2>going to be on and it was like, oh my god.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>She it was like a villain, I don't know. And

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>then he was commenting like he was just commenting.

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 3>When we spoke. Yeah, that the teases didn't come out

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 3>till so late, so she still was going on it

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 3>up until he was he was for whatever it was.

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 2>She pulled out quite late, so it was really last minute,

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and it was because stuff was being pushed out and

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>then he was he was feeding into it, so she

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was like panicking that he was going to be there

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>fair enough.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I would pulled out to in my mind, I grew

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 3>all out because I've known in the past, like he

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 3>gets close when I think he's going to be the wrong. God,

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 3>but you're not going here if I'm not so exactly.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I was very really trying to do something

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 3>because honestly, I think it's like doing a dating show.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 3>So much of your personality is attached to that person.

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I have people still been like are you with people?

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Be like I love you so much you still with

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.479
<v Speaker 3>certa time, you don't love me that much three years ago,

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 3>but so much of like who you are is attached

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>to that person and not having like an opportunity to

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 3>just like be myself, Like I feel like this was

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the first time that I could just fully feel like myself.

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 3>And like, because you're not in a dating environment, you're

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 3>actually able to let your walls in, Like I've always

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 3>been true to who I am. But if you're trying

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.879
<v Speaker 3>to date people, you're not gonna lie let it all rip,

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 3>like you're not gonna let it all hang loose, like

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 3>you leave some mystery. Yeah, but this time, like I

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 3>felt comfortable enough to like just like say whatever, do whatever,

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 3>and just have like fun and have a fun experience

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 3>without my eggs like across the room, which was an

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 3>ideal situation for me, and I'm like fine by that

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>was satisfying for me.

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.479
<v Speaker 1>One thing that I've always been curious about is how

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>much the participants get paid for this, because although you're

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>doing it for charity, yes, Like how much does one

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>get paid for going?

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how much everyone else got paid.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I know how much I got paid, but is it

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>worth it for me? It was never like a money situation,

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Like honestly, if they knocked on my door, I would

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 3>have done it for read because of the charity element,

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Like my charity was demential Australia and my pop went

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 3>through that and it just kind of like ripped a

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 3>hole through the family at the time. So that was

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 3>really special to me. And then, like I said before,

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 3>like it's a once in a last time opportunity. I

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 3>just never could have said no to it. I feel

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 3>like the money for me never mattered. Like obviously, like

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 3>you're going through hell, so like you want to get

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.720
<v Speaker 3>paid for it. It's your time and it's like work.

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, I still have rent to pay exactly, but

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 4>then like the reality of it is like you've got

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.760
<v Speaker 4>like Dave Hughes who is like one of Australia's leading

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 4>comedians and like me from Love Island, so like do

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.399
<v Speaker 4>the math on what that is?

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not like I feel like some people kind

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 3>of like from shows will look at like the casting

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 3>back whatever, they paid that much because they're billing that much,

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 3>because they're making that much. Why would I get paid

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>like as much as Dave Hughes, like what So yeah,

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I won't talk numbers.

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>But so people do get paid differently.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I feel like there is I mean, I

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I am assuming just because I read the

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 3>leaked article so if you want to go find do

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 3>you want to go find the leaked article, which I

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 3>don't know you can gather from that, but I'm assuming

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 3>that there is tears. I didn't actually know before I

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 3>went on there was tears, but that I read the

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.439
<v Speaker 3>leaked article like everyone else, and I thought, okay, fair enough,

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 3>fair enough, And like those people, I feel like those

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 3>like gems that they get on the show, like they've

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>been chasing them for like years, years, years, Like I

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 3>know that those people have been asked over and over.

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 3>So like it is interesting though because it is for charity.

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 3>So I do find that a little bit, Like I

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize that you could be like making such money

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 3>on it when it is like that charity element. I'm

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 3>always so intrigued, right I did. I didn't know that either.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And let's just say, like, oh, we want to pay

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 1>tiny thirty grand, but she only lasts for two weeks?

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Does she still get the full thirty grand? Like do

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? I've always wondered like how

0:48:58.640 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that all works.

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I think there's like baby, yeah, there's a base, and

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 3>then from a certain point onwards, there's like an amount

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 3>that like taps on to.

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>That but all of you guys have to stay for

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>at least what is it like?

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Like so the illiminations didn't end til like the eighteenth day,

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Like that's a lot.

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 1>That's actually it's.

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Not airing the whole time. So it's crazy because like

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 3>you don't as a viewer, like you don't think about

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>when it's not on air. What are you just sitting there?

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm having naps? Beforehand, they were like, prepare, you're

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 3>going to be really bored. You might have napped some days.

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm not napping, not napping. If I napped on Love Island,

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 3>they'd be like, get up, bikini, get up, get your

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 3>legs out, get your legs out, get it out, like

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 3>it would be.

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Like can you bring a kindle at least? Like that's no,

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like you.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Just sneak a kindles are like square if you like,

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 3>don't look, don't look general up here, up here? Yeah no,

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 3>there's no kindles in there.

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 2>And would you do next? You know, next thing you

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 2>see if you're like, would you do another dating show?

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 4>God?

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Or would you do another show dating? For me? As

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've had many a conversation. It's dry out here,

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it's hard out here, and I think one maybe then no,

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing because see, the thing for me is like

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 3>the reason why I did Love Island because I honestly

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 3>was like I'm struggling out here. Else you like hand

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 3>picked me like a selection of people and they cannot

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>leave the premises. Start with me, that's with me. And

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>then since then, like I think by like Love Island Games,

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>which was a lot less focused on dating, and I

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 3>was there for two days, like let's not play about

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 3>but I got in there and I thought, God, I'm

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 3>jaded by this, Like it's not I can't see it

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 3>being like a genuine thing. And like I think, I

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 3>think when you do like another dating show, like usually

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 3>you're on it with other people who've already done it,

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 3>so it just feels like and I want something real,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't want to and I don't want to date.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know you. I don't want to date someone

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 3>in the industry neither. No, same, I mean you've got

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 3>sorry that's an off camera.

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm very against the industry vibe just from experience.

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, guys, but I just feel

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 3>like girls that put themselves up to be on a

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 3>TV show. Yes, cute, yeah, care ely, but like men

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 3>that put themselves on a TV show just why there's

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 3>a double there's a double stairs, a double stairs, and

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about it. And the way they use

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>it is different the way we at least their double

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 3>standard isn't like, oh they get paid twice as much.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 3>There's it's just like I just.

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Want to have multiple hook ups and girls just like

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:37.799
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely a different line.

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But there's something about a man that goes on TV

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that wants to be an influencer. That's that's guy.

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 2>For the girls and.

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 3>That day and everyone an athlete or something like that

0:51:54.080 --> 0:52:01.839
<v Speaker 3>work with them. Then they go back into yeah, yeah, not.

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 2>That like you can't be atlet as a woman because

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 2>they're just as good and people, Yes, just as good.

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 1>God, an amazing chat. We should book out like two

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>hours next time and just like have a have a yard.

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 3>This was like a personal conversation.

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Gets the march next time.

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, well, thank you so much for having me.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 3>Then we chat all the time, so it's good to

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 3>do it behind the mind.

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Debris yes.

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Tags. Bye,