WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 23 October 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:09.320 This is Paul Murray Live. Friend the welcome Everydings. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.920 We are here having a good old fashioned time. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.400 Hello everyone in Brasee. How are they up the back? 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.599 Good stuff? God love you here. We're here at the 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.880 Eden Hill Hotel. Peter Dutton will be here a little 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.200 bit later to take our pub test. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.440 Where are People of the Pulmary Live audience decide to 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.240 ask whatever question they want, they'll get the chance to 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.680 do that with the alternative Prime Minister a little bit later. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.320 We'll also have a deeper conversation about the Queensland election 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.159 with Chris Jones, of course from the Courier Mail, who's 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.680 well got all sorts of insights as well as no 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.440 doubt their final polls all the rest of that. If not, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.000 he's going to have to quickly do one now. And 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.120 Cameron Milner, of course, who you know, is willing to 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.240 tell the truth about the way the Labor Party does 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.640 or more importantly at times does not work. But first, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.960 I love Queensland and I'm not saying that in the 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.760 political pandering way, that in the way that for as 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.280 long as I've been able to choose where I go 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:09.240 on holidays, I have from schoolies to Tooley's to now 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.840 been coming to Queensland. I've been going to the Jew storm, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.120 sunny curls. I've got family up the road and the 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.520 best of possible friends here. Now, I don't say all 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.840 of this to suck up to you. I say this 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.920 to say you've got a huge choice on Saturday. I 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.160 love Queensland. It's the place that I would choose to 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.119 live if I had the free choice. It's the place 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.119 I choose to be when I am at my best self, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.320 when I share it with my friends and with my family. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.080 This is a magical and special place. And on Saturday 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.640 you have a chance to make a decision about who 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.360 you want to run it for the next four years. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.560 It's not just an election, it's about a custodianship. So 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.480 tonight I wanted to say right off the start, after 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.880 saying what I've said about why I love Queensland and 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:58.400 it's people, why I love everything here, there is a 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.360 lie at the heart of this election that is very effective. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.480 It is the best lie that has been issued in 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.720 Australian politics since the Labor Party claimed the medi Scare 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.880 campaign back in twenty sixteen. It is a claim front 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.079 and center that there is going to be a change 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.480 to abortion in this state. Now, this is not part 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.720 of any party platform yet the Labor Party, unable to 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.720 have a record to run on, rather than saying what 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.720 their performance has been in the past four years or 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.600 the years before that or the years before that, have 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.520 found a way to change the subject. It was a 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.720 lie the first time they said it, and it is 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:49.560 a lie today now in all three debates or people's forums, 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.720 David crucifully, when confronted with the lie, has said this. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.800 There will be no change to those laws. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.359 Changes to that Act are not part of the plan 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.840 and they will not be changed. There'll be no changes 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.120 and I haven't moved one millimeter. There's going to be 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.000 no change to abortion walls in Queensland. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.000 So it's definitely not part of their plan. He has 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.160 said multiple times it is not part of their plan. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.320 Even when the worst case scenario where someone who is 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.280 a backbencher says, if I could do if I could 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.880 have my say, we'd have a vote on it. I'll 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.240 tell you how that vote's going to go. It'll stay 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.200 the way it is. The entire Labor Party will vote 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.000 for it to stay the way it is. Three quarters 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.880 four fifths of the Liberal Party will vote for no change, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.600 meaning even on day one, if there was a vote 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:53.680 on abortion, it will not change. Yet Stephen Miles, despite 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.160 the fact that he knows this, despite the fact that 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.640 he has looked into the eyes of the person saying 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:03.360 it is a lie, keeps telling the lie roll the tape. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.640 Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.440 thinks about this issue. I mean, this is a really 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.440 important issue where you have a conscience, spoke, give a 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:13.160 straight answer. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.120 Are your pro choice or not? Now? 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.839 For Queensland, like every other state or federal election, like 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.640 half of people are going to vote before Saturday, which 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.280 means many people who have already voted have walked past 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.960 a sign that is a lie. The sign couldn't be 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.680 any clearer. The sign says a vote for the LMP 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.719 is a vote to make abortion the crime. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.880 This is a lie. You know it in this room, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:44.560 You know. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.239 It to people that are watching. But to the people 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.320 who you pass this video on too, they need to 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.200 know that it is a lie. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.240 This should be illegal. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.800 Politicians can tell mistruths, they can shade a little this 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.880 and that, but if you say you're definitely not doing something, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.200 but they're still able to hold up a sign saying 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.599 you're definitely going to do it. You can make anything up. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.360 If you are a person who is convinced by this, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.520 I understand why you're convinced by this, because you think 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.880 the system has guardrails in it that people can't lie 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.000 to you like this. But they can, and the system 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.760 and the guard rails have been written by this government. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.040 They decided to make this a preferential election, not a 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.760 first past the post, because they know they don't have 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.080 enough votes, so they hope for the preferences of people 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.480 like the Greens. They know that because they do not 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.880 have a record to run on. They change the way 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.440 your elections are funded. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.160 Here where as opposed to a political party. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.480 Being able to raise as much money as it wants 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.800 and then to be able to spend it how it chooses, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.200 they set a law in place that is as bad 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.000 as Joe's jerry mandering of the seventies and eighties, which 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:06.480 said that a political party Greens, one Nation, Liberal Labor 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.480 can only spend x amount of dollars in one seat 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.159 at one time. Okay, that's a level playing field, but 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.440 you know who also can spend one hundred thousand dollars 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:21.160 an independent group in Queensland. Despite the fact that the 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.200 Labor Party and the Union Movement are literally joined at 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.240 the hip, you cannot be a member of the Party 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.960 in the Parliament without being a unionist. They are fifty 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.320 percent of the say of the constitution of the party. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.480 Guests who gets counted as an independent group the unions 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:46.040 and the unions are also limited. Each individual union can 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.080 spend an x amount of dollars per seed. Well, guess 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.480 what happens when two of them join up. That's a 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 two to one advantage on everyone else in the race. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.919 In this state there are more than fifteen us that 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.880 are registered, which means at any one time, in any 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.320 one seat, at any one moment, one side of politics 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.480 is able to outspend everyone else ten to one. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:11.400 They did that. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.160 And they don't want to be judged on that because 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.239 they expect most people in Queensland are busy doing something else, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:24.360 watching something else, reading something else. Well, tonight, the reason 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.760 I start this program the way I do is you 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:31.800 now have a resource to show them. Send this video 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.480 to someone who you know needs to know the truth. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.920 The abortion thing is a lie. It is not changing 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:45.760 no matter what. In Queensland, the union rigging of the 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:51.000 electoral spending means people are able to spread lies on 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.760 the party's behalf when they are the party. This would 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.800 be a scandal if it was a property developer. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.320 Oh, because it's a union. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.720 It's just the way it is in a state where 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.960 the stop go person gets paid two hundred thousand dollars 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.080 because the union are able to stand over the government. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.360 And I also say this about the union movement too, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.920 should there be a change of government, as sure as 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.560 Sunday is the day after the election, the unions who 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.280 have stayed silent about a shitty health system will tell 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.520 you every problem that has ever happened. And in real time, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.920 the same people who have stayed silent about youth crime 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.320 will tell you about every broken window. Because this is 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:43.040 how their plan if they lose government is to win 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.040 it straight away. It worked in South Australia one term 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.199 liberal government. It worked in Queensland the last time around 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.319 with one term liberal government. All of this is so 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.480 you know what's going on because you watch this show, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:57.800 because you get the detail. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.199 You understand that on this show we. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.880 Don't just look at the beach, We count the grains 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.880 of sand, And while every other person quite rightly is 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.760 busy and just might drive past the beach on the 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.560 way to the cafe, or might only turn up to 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.120 the beach every couple of times a year because they're 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.000 on holidays. You need people in the debate who know 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:22.560 the grains are sand. So the abortion thing is a lie. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.760 But the following things are not lives. The following are 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:32.280 human beings who no longer are alive in Queensland because 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:38.800 firstly of youth crime. Emma Lovell is not a lie. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.160 She was killed on Boxing Day in twenty twenty two. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:49.280 Carlos Stewart was killed in Ipswich in twenty twenty one. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.200 He is not a billboard. He is not a lie. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:58.000 Renee Laddermore, a seventeen year old, was charged with her 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:05.520 murder in August in Mackay of twenty twenty one, Scott, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.000 the forty seven year old uber driver, a seventeen year 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.600 old boy along with an eighteen year. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.880 Old were charged with his murder. This is real Queensland. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.679 This is not the BS, this is not the Union Line, 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.679 this is not the poster. This is the record they 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.960 are running away from and why they are changing the subject. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.560 Jennifer Broad, a twenty two year old no longer with us. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.760 Matthew feel and his beautiful wife Kate. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.360 You know their story and you. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:40.840 Know that their dad or sorry, her dad, is going 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.440 to be running as a candidate of this election. There's 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:49.080 also Michael he was hit with a stolen car in 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:54.920 Winnham two years ago. And then there are the people 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.959 who have died because the ambulance didn't turn. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.160 Up, or they died in the back of the endmbulance. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.400 And that was run by the premier who used to 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:11.080 be the health minister. There is nowhere to hide while 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.560 he talks about reproductive rights, what about the right to 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.720 when you call triple the ambulance turns up. What about 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:24.120 the right that, after three terms of government that when 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.119 the ambulance turns up, that you go to a hospital 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.840 and you go to the emergency ward. You do not 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.360 sit in the back of the ambulance, You do not 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.720 sit in the. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:41.960 Hallway, You do not die alone. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.040 Those who will not be voting at this election Robert Miller, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.199 he died after waiting for six hours for an ambulance. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:55.600 Kath Groom, who called an ambulance it didn't turn up. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:56.560 She went to bed. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.760 Her son found her dead because the vibulence didn't turn up. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:03.600 Wayne Irving. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:09.520 There are stories after stories, but more importantly people after people. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.480 Derek de Witt, these people have all died in the 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:19.320 last term of this government. For God's sake, vote for 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:32.520 them to get rid of this lying mob. Now, a 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.280 couple of other things before we get to Peter Dutton, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.000 and we look forward to those questions in a moment 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.960 or two time. Now, of course, power bills, as we 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.560 know greatest Prime Minister of all time, Anthony Albernezi, what 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.800 was that promise that he made of the last election, 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.160 because I'm still waiting for it to pay off roll tape. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.680 Two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.600 five dollars, two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.240 and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy five, two 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.360 hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy far, two 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.559 hundred and sey five, two hundred and seventy five, two 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.760 hundred and seventy five dollars. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.400 And you know how we have to spend billions of 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.760 dollars going from the system that worked to the system 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.280 that we hope works, because apparently that was going to 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:13.679 be cheaper. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.920 Right, Roll the tape on this idiot. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.240 We're not walking away from our commitment to get more 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.559 renewables into the system. And yes, they are the cheapest 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.000 form of energy available, the cheapest form of energy that's 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:26.920 ever been available. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.720 The boss of a email came out today and said, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.480 guess what, even if all of this happens and when 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.000 they get everything they want, guess what, the power bills 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.960 won't actually be cheaper. Roll the tape on this bloke. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.040 But you're saying you cannot guarantee that the current government 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.960 policy settings which you model will deliver lower power prices. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.840 I can't guarantee that, No, And what I would say 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.880 is we would try to be quite clear about the 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.439 communication of our message, which is that the integrated system plan, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:06.199 which considers these things generation, storage, and major transmission upgrades, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.840 is the lowest cost pathway. It doesn't refer to whether 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.720 it's cheaper or more expensive for that wholesale component. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.440 Blah blah blah blah, bullshit blah blah blah. That goes 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.440 on with these people. Right, we definitely must move from 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.400 this thing to that thing. How much will that cost? 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.760 I don't know, are trillion dollars? Okay, so I've got 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.400 to pay the trillion dollars and then it's going to 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.480 be cheaper, right, Oh absolutely? Okay, cool, here's a few 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.280 hundred billion dollars, so it's going to be cheaper. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:34.520 Right. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.160 Maybe not, but you've already put the deposit down, so 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.840 you might as well pay the rest of the bills. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:45.120 Fitting Now, Trump's winning, my friends, Trump is winning in 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.480 his election. I don't say that to revue up and. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.280 I, as you know, I've been cautious through all of this. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.720 Here's the latest polls, right seven swing states that matter. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.080 This is the average. Okay. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.440 Trump is winning in Arizona, He's winning in Nevada, He's 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:03.120 winning in Michigan with consin Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia. Okay, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.840 if all of that happens, we're having a very good 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.440 night on the fifth of November. However, there may be 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.520 one or twos that obviously don't turn up. So at 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.440 this moment in time, things are going well. There's also 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.880 about thirteen to fifteen million people who have already voted early, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.040 and smarter people than I are able to work out 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.720 what's happening with that vote. If you're in this room 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.440 or you're watching Telly right now, lean forward, because guess what. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.240 Trump's winning that too. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.320 If the early vote numbers stay the way they are, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.280 and that's a big if, we'll almost certainly know before 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.120 election day who's going to win the election. We're going 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.440 to talk a lot about that, the reasons why Democrats 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.280 might be underperforming, the prospect that they'll recover. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.360 So as for Cabala, Harris, guess what she did today? Nothing? 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.960 She literally she took the freaking day off. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.080 Now, she did do an interview with NBC which was 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.160 supposed to be friendly. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.960 But let's find out whether this was a good interview 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.200 or a bad interview. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.360 First, are the last four years an obstacle to you? 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.720 Softball? Softball Harris? 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.800 Here's how I look at it. First of all, let 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.479 me be very clear. Mine will not be a continuation 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.960 of the Biden administration. I bring my own experiences, my 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.120 own ideas to it, and it has informed a number 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.560 of my areas of focus, most of which are on 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.280 to your point, lowering costs. I am traveling the country. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.240 I am very clear coast to grocery is still too high. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:34.920 The voters know what I know it. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.080 She was asked whether or she agreed with people like 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:44.160 Barack Obama who think sexism is involved softball kill a 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:45.080 Malaga flop? 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.160 Do you think there is sexism at play here? 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.240 Let me just tell you something. You've come to my 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.240 events and you will see there are men and women 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.240 at those events. So the experience that I am having 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.760 is one in which it is clear that, regardless of 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.959 someone's gender, they want to know that their president has 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.679 a plan of lower cost, that their president has a 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.800 plan to secure America in the context of our position 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:12.639 around the world. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.960 And two weeks out from the election where she hopes 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.600 to replace him, let's talk about just how sleepy, sleepy 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.400 Joe Woods softball op come on odds? 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.399 Can you say that you were honest with the American 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.080 people about what you saw in those moments with President 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.600 Biden as you were with him again and again repeatedly 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:34.320 in that time. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:44.600 Of course, Joe Biden is an extremely accomplished, experienced and 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.480 capable in every way that anyone would want if they're president. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:52.600 You never saw anything like. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.160 What happened at the debate night behind closed doors with him. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:56.800 It was a bad debate. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.160 People have bad debates. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.280 Should he is, absolutely, that's the reason why you're here. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.840 And he's not running for the top of the ticket. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.080 Well, you'd have to ask him if that's the only reason, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.520 why what do you think I am running for president 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.280 of the United States? Joe Biden is not. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.000 Wow. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.840 All right, ladies and gentlemen, the alternative Prime Minister, the 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.480 leader of the Liberal Party and m Knight none other 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:27.359 than pet it up. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:36.000 Please work, I. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:43.640 Take a stake, take a seat, take a seat mine. Well, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.480 welcome back. We've done this before and thank you very 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.760 much for doing it again for us. It's welcome to 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.239 a part of the world. Had good, right audience, Well, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:53.800 you can tell the difference lock time. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.359 That's the politician, right, Let's see the difference between the 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.240 Queenslander and the wannabe Queenslander. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:18:59.919 I'm sweating. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.280 He's like, this is just the stuff. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.000 Don't worry about that. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:04.920 So how the interview goes? I love your sweating. Later 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.119 and all right, well we'll see where the questions are 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:12.479 from good people today. Interestingly and amazingly, ninety one percent 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.680 of people who were surveyed disagreed with what Lydia Thorpe 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.440 did you were in the room, What were you thinking 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.720 at that particular moment when no one's cheering her on, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.520 no one's murmuring, no one's clapping, She's just. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.960 Making the spectacle of herself in front of the king. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.879 Well, I couldn't see her from where I was sitting, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.320 so I hadn't seen before that that she was standing 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.399 with her back to the king as he spoke. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.920 So I think it was entirely predictable that if she. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.480 Was in the room and she was carrying on like that, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.240 that she was going to form some stunt, which is 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.480 exactly what she does now. The difficulty in talking about 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.280 it is that you're giving her the attention that she wants, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.120 and she seeks in craves. But I think the government 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.359 has real questions to answer because once she had made 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.040 her stay sort of performed the stunt, it was very 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:10.400 a very slow reaction for the escort out of the room, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.680 and I just think the government should have been better 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:17.119 prepared for it, and they would have planned and they 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.240 would have had discussions, but for whatever reason, they didn't 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:21.440 jump in quickly enough. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.680 What's your response to the AEM most stuff that came 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.840 out of centered estimates today where government's made a decision. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.280 They say there was the fork in the road in 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.800 twenty twenty two. There are hundreds of billions down the road. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.760 A lot of that is off budget, meaning we never 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.160 actually see how big all of that is. Yet they 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.920 themselves turn around and say, despite the main sales pitch 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.399 that at the end of this rainbow, it's cheaper ed. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:42.679 Might'en be well? 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:44.840 I just think some of the emotion is now being 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:49.080 replaced with the reality and as you pull the sheet 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.159 back on this, you're going to start to see a 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.719 lot of anomalies. And Chris Bowen, I think has been 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.879 misleading the Australian people, along with Anthony Ovineasy for years now. 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.440 If you look at the off sure Win turbines, they've 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:05.400 got a life of nineteen years, so you have four 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.160 cycles full life cycles compared to the nuclear reactor which 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.760 has got a life of between sixty eighty and probably 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.920 extending out to a century. And none of that second, third, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.119 fourth life is taken into consideration in their program. So 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.159 the whole thing is a hoax and I think the 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.400 penny has dropped for a lot of Australians. A lot 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:28.399 people have been well ahead of this debate and the 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.160 frustration is building in the community because when the Prime 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.399 Minister promised on ninety seven occasions he'd reduced power bills, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.400 both two hundred and seventy five dollars for most people 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:38.800 have gone up by one thousand dollars. 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:43.399 And amazingly, if your promise in going into twenty thirteen 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.240 was stop the boats, but two years in they weren't stopping, 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:48.560 people would be going nuts. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.320 I mean, this was a sab would be outraged, wouldn't. 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.199 They Just yeah, they may also actually be investigating what 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:55.960 may or may not have happened inside the Deputy Prime 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.320 Minister's office. I know that's right only even it's Barnaby Joyce. 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.520 But we get the idea, right. Let's get to some 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.800 questions here and then old Pepper as we go along. 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.800 We have Nicole who's here? Nicole Peter Dunn't what do 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:06.399 you want to ask you? 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:10.159 Good evening, mister Dalton. My question is how is Lydia 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:11.520 thought allowed. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.720 To continue as a senator when she's stood before the 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.560 King and clearly denounced her oath. 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.439 Well, she's given an oath to the Parliament and she 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.480 needs to honor that oath. But the way our democracy 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.000 works is if somebody is elected at an election in 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.560 the in the Senate for six years, their term is 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.399