1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,361 Speaker 1: Appogie production an easier advice. Are you okay? What happened? 2 00:00:14,001 --> 00:00:16,641 Speaker 1: Promise it won't be too much? Bring it in. 3 00:00:17,921 --> 00:00:26,281 Speaker 2: Welcome to our Bestie Segment. This is the place for you. 4 00:00:26,801 --> 00:00:29,361 Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of our Bestie Segment with 5 00:00:29,401 --> 00:00:30,201 Speaker 3: Ashley and Tiana. 6 00:00:30,321 --> 00:00:32,041 Speaker 2: We have got a very interesting one today. 7 00:00:32,081 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be short one because I don't 8 00:00:33,481 --> 00:00:35,281 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a lot of advice. Yeah, you 9 00:00:35,321 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: don't know if we can relate to me no, So 10 00:00:36,801 --> 00:00:39,361 Speaker 1: I'll just read it out. It's very short. Also, when 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: you guys write in your submissions one, we really appreciate 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: it too. The more context you can give us, the 13 00:00:44,561 --> 00:00:47,361 Speaker 1: more advice we can give you. When there's not much context, 14 00:00:47,361 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: it makes it harder for us because we kind of 15 00:00:49,361 --> 00:00:53,161 Speaker 1: have to assume different things to extend on the advice. Anyways, 16 00:00:53,161 --> 00:00:55,561 Speaker 1: I'll take it away. What do you do when your 17 00:00:55,601 --> 00:00:58,121 Speaker 1: best friend becomes too much? She calls too much and 18 00:00:58,161 --> 00:01:00,841 Speaker 1: texts NonStop, needs to know who I'm with, what I'm 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,121 Speaker 1: doing each day, kind of like an obsessed boyfriend. How 20 00:01:04,121 --> 00:01:07,641 Speaker 1: do you slowly back away without ending the friendship completely? 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Now I can't relate. You just described our friendship. We 22 00:01:15,481 --> 00:01:17,361 Speaker 1: literally say that, Dyson, you said it to me last night. 23 00:01:17,401 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm like an annoying boyfriend. No annoying ex 24 00:01:19,881 --> 00:01:22,241 Speaker 1: boyfriends ex boyfriend. I was like, I love it. Ya. 25 00:01:23,161 --> 00:01:26,121 Speaker 1: We love being super connected and we talk all the time, 26 00:01:26,161 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: but we both also have really beautiful friendships with girls 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: that we don't see often. Like I don't see Shares 28 00:01:31,241 --> 00:01:33,321 Speaker 1: very much, but she has been one of my best 29 00:01:33,321 --> 00:01:36,041 Speaker 1: friends since I was fifteen, and I still feel super 30 00:01:36,041 --> 00:01:38,601 Speaker 1: connected with her and when we talk, when we catch up, 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,201 Speaker 1: it's like nothing has changed. But we don't need to 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: talk all the time. We don't talk all the time, 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,601 Speaker 1: and we live quite separate lives because she lives like 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,321 Speaker 1: far away from me, of course. And then there's you 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,041 Speaker 1: and I who are super close and we talk every 36 00:01:49,041 --> 00:01:51,001 Speaker 1: single day, and if we don't, it's like almost weird, 37 00:01:51,241 --> 00:01:53,801 Speaker 1: like are you okay, you're alive? What are you doing? 38 00:01:53,841 --> 00:01:54,201 Speaker 1: Who are you with? 39 00:01:54,561 --> 00:01:55,961 Speaker 2: So I'm like, if you did not text me for 40 00:01:55,961 --> 00:01:56,601 Speaker 2: twenty four hours? 41 00:01:56,641 --> 00:01:59,721 Speaker 1: Like literally yeah, we genuinely like are you alive? Like 42 00:01:59,881 --> 00:02:00,481 Speaker 1: check your location? 43 00:02:00,561 --> 00:02:02,361 Speaker 2: That actually has happened, Like we have our locations of 44 00:02:02,441 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: each other. 45 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:05,521 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you calling me one time and be like, oh, Okay, 46 00:02:05,521 --> 00:02:06,561 Speaker 3: I didn't hear from you last night. 47 00:02:06,761 --> 00:02:10,721 Speaker 1: Yes, literally, But I do think some people don't value 48 00:02:10,761 --> 00:02:13,081 Speaker 1: friendship as much. Yeah, Like I know for Steve, like, 49 00:02:13,281 --> 00:02:15,761 Speaker 1: of course he values friendship, but nowhere near as much 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,601 Speaker 1: as what I value it. He would like rather work 51 00:02:18,721 --> 00:02:20,601 Speaker 1: or be with his kids or just be by himself. 52 00:02:20,601 --> 00:02:25,041 Speaker 1: Whereas I love friendship. It it is so important to me. 53 00:02:25,121 --> 00:02:27,321 Speaker 1: It always has been, it always will be. It's a 54 00:02:27,361 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: source of fun, connection, variety, like different friends for different reasons. 55 00:02:32,281 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: You're looking at me, you have different friends. 56 00:02:34,041 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh you do what other friends? 57 00:02:37,121 --> 00:02:39,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love sisterhood. I just think it's so beautiful 58 00:02:39,401 --> 00:02:42,041 Speaker 1: and I need girlfriends in my life, something I will 59 00:02:42,121 --> 00:02:45,001 Speaker 1: never not put as a priority. So maybe you're just 60 00:02:45,001 --> 00:02:47,201 Speaker 1: someone who it does feel a bit much and that's okay. 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,961 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know if this is true, but if 62 00:02:50,001 --> 00:02:51,961 Speaker 3: you want to submit something else again and let us 63 00:02:52,001 --> 00:02:56,761 Speaker 3: know this. But when it's not reciprocated, like maybe for her, 64 00:02:57,041 --> 00:02:59,721 Speaker 3: it feels like she's more invested in the friendship than 65 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:02,201 Speaker 3: what you are. Yeah, so maybe there's like an imbalance 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,801 Speaker 3: in the friendship, do you know what I mean? Like you, 67 00:03:03,921 --> 00:03:05,921 Speaker 3: I do balance where it's like maybe you're not as 68 00:03:05,921 --> 00:03:08,241 Speaker 3: emotionally invested in the friendship. Maybe you don't have that 69 00:03:08,281 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: sense of closeness safety connection with her as she does 70 00:03:11,881 --> 00:03:12,201 Speaker 3: with you. 71 00:03:12,281 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Then I can understand. 72 00:03:13,761 --> 00:03:15,641 Speaker 1: I've actually had a friend like this. I've just thought 73 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,721 Speaker 1: of something. Yeah, I did have a friend that I 74 00:03:17,761 --> 00:03:21,361 Speaker 1: actually had to cut out because she was very full on. 75 00:03:21,601 --> 00:03:25,121 Speaker 1: But I almost felt it was from an energy of codependence. Yes, okay, 76 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:27,361 Speaker 1: and she could not be alone, and I almost felt 77 00:03:27,401 --> 00:03:30,001 Speaker 1: like it started to go into this big sister, little 78 00:03:30,041 --> 00:03:34,561 Speaker 1: sister role of her needing me. Yeah okay for everything 79 00:03:34,761 --> 00:03:37,761 Speaker 1: and anything. But it was also a lot of not negativity, 80 00:03:38,561 --> 00:03:39,961 Speaker 1: but she was just going through a lot, and of 81 00:03:39,961 --> 00:03:42,321 Speaker 1: course I was there for her, but I did feel 82 00:03:42,361 --> 00:03:43,481 Speaker 1: a little bit suffocated. 83 00:03:43,641 --> 00:03:44,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 84 00:03:44,361 --> 00:03:48,081 Speaker 1: It wasn't playful and fun. It was always i don't know, like, Yeah, 85 00:03:48,121 --> 00:03:50,641 Speaker 1: she really was very codependent on me and it felt 86 00:03:50,921 --> 00:03:53,241 Speaker 1: a lot and I did had to pull away and 87 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:55,761 Speaker 1: that didn't work, so I actually had to end the friendship. Yeah. 88 00:03:55,921 --> 00:03:57,841 Speaker 1: I just said that this wasn't aligning for me, and 89 00:03:57,881 --> 00:03:59,841 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I can't remember exactly what I said, but 90 00:04:00,241 --> 00:04:02,241 Speaker 1: I just said it wasn't feeling good for me anymore, 91 00:04:02,521 --> 00:04:04,001 Speaker 1: and I felt like I did her a favor because 92 00:04:04,041 --> 00:04:06,201 Speaker 1: I really felt like she needed spend some time by herself, 93 00:04:06,241 --> 00:04:09,081 Speaker 1: not being so reliant on me, And because my personality 94 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:11,281 Speaker 1: is quite I love to save people. I love to 95 00:04:11,321 --> 00:04:13,681 Speaker 1: help people. I love if I've got any anyway I 96 00:04:13,681 --> 00:04:16,801 Speaker 1: can help someone with that's financially, emotionally, showing up for 97 00:04:16,841 --> 00:04:18,881 Speaker 1: them energetically, like, I will do it. I've always been 98 00:04:18,961 --> 00:04:21,721 Speaker 1: like that, but it started to take a toll on me. Yeah, okay, 99 00:04:22,161 --> 00:04:24,761 Speaker 1: so yeah I ended that friendship. So I have had 100 00:04:24,761 --> 00:04:26,841 Speaker 1: that because I kind of do understand where you're coming from. 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,921 Speaker 1: So maybe she's just not someone that you're wanting to 102 00:04:28,921 --> 00:04:31,601 Speaker 1: be super close with and you could just like slowly 103 00:04:31,641 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: tape her off. But how do you do that? That's 104 00:04:34,081 --> 00:04:36,121 Speaker 1: a hard one. Do you have an honest conversation or 105 00:04:36,161 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: do you just stop replying to everything that wouldn't feel 106 00:04:38,641 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: very nice to me? 107 00:04:39,401 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: I think it just depends, like how deep the connection 108 00:04:41,961 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: is already. 109 00:04:42,601 --> 00:04:45,281 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you kind of gauge, you know, It's like, 110 00:04:45,481 --> 00:04:47,401 Speaker 3: is it worth having a conversation of being like, hey, 111 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:49,201 Speaker 3: this is where I'm at in the friendship. 112 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,481 Speaker 2: Yeah, what would feel good for me? 113 00:04:50,641 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Is this yes? 114 00:04:51,841 --> 00:04:54,161 Speaker 3: Or is it something that's just like actually just not 115 00:04:54,201 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: an aligned friendship for you, where you're like, oh, I 116 00:04:56,281 --> 00:04:58,481 Speaker 3: just don't have the time, space, capacity and energy to 117 00:04:58,561 --> 00:05:00,361 Speaker 3: invest in this friendship in the way that she deserves 118 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:01,281 Speaker 3: to have someone invest. 119 00:05:01,361 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: She's saying, I don't want to end the friendship completely though, 120 00:05:03,921 --> 00:05:06,281 Speaker 1: so she's still wanting her you know, life. So maybe 121 00:05:06,361 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: is it that honest conversation of like, I am feeling like, 122 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:11,841 Speaker 1: you know, you're coming to me for everything, and maybe 123 00:05:12,281 --> 00:05:14,921 Speaker 1: are you co dependent on me or in requiring more 124 00:05:14,961 --> 00:05:16,521 Speaker 1: of me? Like I don't think I can give any 125 00:05:16,561 --> 00:05:19,441 Speaker 1: more than what I'm giving. Yeah, And I don't want 126 00:05:19,841 --> 00:05:21,401 Speaker 1: to resent this friendship and I don't want them to 127 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,281 Speaker 1: be any icky energy. But I do feel like it's 128 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,921 Speaker 1: a lot for me right now because I have other 129 00:05:24,961 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: friends and work and a family or whatever things going on. Yeah, 130 00:05:27,721 --> 00:05:30,001 Speaker 1: like could we schedule in a walk once a week 131 00:05:30,041 --> 00:05:32,121 Speaker 1: and you know, catch up other things, But I can't 132 00:05:32,121 --> 00:05:34,681 Speaker 1: be doing it every single day. I don't know. I 133 00:05:34,721 --> 00:05:35,001 Speaker 1: don't know. 134 00:05:35,841 --> 00:05:38,721 Speaker 3: And then the you know, feeling obsessive like a partner 135 00:05:38,841 --> 00:05:40,601 Speaker 3: or something like that. You know, is it that she's 136 00:05:40,721 --> 00:05:44,081 Speaker 3: just anxious and maybe she has her stuff coming up 137 00:05:44,081 --> 00:05:46,561 Speaker 3: in the friendship where when you're not there, she's super 138 00:05:46,601 --> 00:05:50,161 Speaker 3: anxious and super maybe has the fear of abandonment and 139 00:05:50,161 --> 00:05:52,041 Speaker 3: all those sorts of that's sorts of conversation. You can 140 00:05:52,081 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: open up with her, be like, hey, like do you 141 00:05:53,481 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: feel fully safe in our friendship? 142 00:05:55,121 --> 00:05:57,721 Speaker 2: Do you feel secure? Like is anything computing not for you? 143 00:05:57,721 --> 00:05:59,401 Speaker 3: You know, and just check in with her as well, 144 00:05:59,521 --> 00:06:02,001 Speaker 3: because I think that conversation might soothe. 145 00:06:01,761 --> 00:06:02,601 Speaker 2: Her if it is. 146 00:06:02,721 --> 00:06:03,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. 147 00:06:04,361 --> 00:06:06,721 Speaker 3: Bring safety to the friendship so she knows that she 148 00:06:06,761 --> 00:06:08,601 Speaker 3: can actually bring in the stuff that's coming up for 149 00:06:08,641 --> 00:06:10,801 Speaker 3: her instead of acting out in a really anxious way. 150 00:06:10,961 --> 00:06:13,721 Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's healthy obsession, like when Steve's like obsessed 151 00:06:13,761 --> 00:06:17,001 Speaker 1: with me, I love it. You know, you can feel 152 00:06:17,001 --> 00:06:20,281 Speaker 1: it energetically when it's like more that codependent neediness or 153 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,121 Speaker 1: it's obsessed with like I just love you so much 154 00:06:22,161 --> 00:06:23,721 Speaker 1: and I just have the best time with you. Yes, 155 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,481 Speaker 1: you know, I think you can feel it. So you're 156 00:06:25,481 --> 00:06:28,361 Speaker 1: obviously feeling that neediness and like desperation from her wanting 157 00:06:28,361 --> 00:06:31,241 Speaker 1: more from you. Yeah, but it's a hard conversation to have, 158 00:06:31,961 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: And I wonder if you'd feel different if it was 159 00:06:33,921 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: a different person. 160 00:06:35,121 --> 00:06:36,921 Speaker 2: I feel, yes, I feel yes, because when. 161 00:06:37,001 --> 00:06:38,241 Speaker 1: I did from that old friendship. 162 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,881 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've. 163 00:06:38,801 --> 00:06:41,361 Speaker 3: Definitely had friendships like that too, where I've been the 164 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:43,201 Speaker 3: more anxious one and when I've been the one who's 165 00:06:43,281 --> 00:06:45,921 Speaker 3: leant out. Yeah, So I can understand the dynamic. But 166 00:06:45,961 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: then when I'm also fully invested in a friendship where 167 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,401 Speaker 3: it's like absolutely one hundred bright or die, Yeah, right 168 00:06:51,481 --> 00:06:53,481 Speaker 3: or die, it's a completely different energy. None of that 169 00:06:53,521 --> 00:06:55,841 Speaker 3: stuff even comes up. So I just wonder if it's 170 00:06:55,841 --> 00:06:57,201 Speaker 3: maybe just a misalignment or something. 171 00:06:57,361 --> 00:06:58,841 Speaker 1: I think so sounds like it. 172 00:06:59,041 --> 00:07:00,601 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that either. 173 00:07:01,041 --> 00:07:03,321 Speaker 3: Mean anything about this other woman doesn't mean anything about you. 174 00:07:03,401 --> 00:07:05,481 Speaker 3: It's just maybe just like the same length. 175 00:07:05,641 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. But give us an update. Let 176 00:07:08,041 --> 00:07:09,121 Speaker 1: us know what you're going to do with this, what 177 00:07:09,201 --> 00:07:10,201 Speaker 1: kind of conversation you have. 178 00:07:10,321 --> 00:07:11,921 Speaker 3: Otherwise you'll be more than happy for them to be 179 00:07:11,921 --> 00:07:12,881 Speaker 3: obsessed like a boyfriend. 180 00:07:13,521 --> 00:07:16,601 Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, we love it like we love it. That's 181 00:07:16,641 --> 00:07:18,841 Speaker 1: so funny. But yeah, give us an update, let us 182 00:07:18,881 --> 00:07:21,761 Speaker 1: know how you go and sending you else to love. Yeah, 183 00:07:21,801 --> 00:07:23,601 Speaker 1: brave enough to have a hard conversation. You've got this 184 00:07:23,841 --> 00:07:26,641 Speaker 1: hard conversations. It's the year of it. It's a year 185 00:07:26,641 --> 00:07:29,401 Speaker 1: of hard conversation. Yes you got this girlfriend. Thanks for 186 00:07:29,481 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: joining us. Guys, We'll see in the next episode. Bye bye,