WEBVTT - Credlin | 28 July 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.920 Predo Quidlin live from New twenty four. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.239 We're on the same wavelength, Chris Kenny. I've already bought 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.400 my tickets to the Castle, the play next to April 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.480 in Melbourne. Good evening, Welcome to the program, big big 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:18.440 show for you tonight. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.040 He is what's coming up on Credlin. A crazy day 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.120 in Victorian politics. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.200 The new premier in Ben Carroll, but it got messy 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.640 with a left faction considering a scorched earth approach before 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.000 they back down. I'll get you up to speed and 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.519 all the machinations at play, what the Liberals are going 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:38.280 to do now and just who is Ben Carroll? The 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.839 secret files from the ALP conference exposing just how worried 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.000 everyday rank and file members are about the rise of 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.280 one nation, not the elites, their rank and file. That's telling. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.240 Plus anger in Berlin as details about Islamic state links 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.760 are revealed, throwing the weekend's terror attack at that gay 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.560 prior event yet to another stabbing two in Paris. I'll 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.560 get to the latest spears of islamist a tax mount 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.600 across Europe and out with. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.040 You old, in with the new. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.319 But who knew integrity wasn't standard? 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:19.920 We are saying enough is enough. In my government, integrity 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.680 will not be optional. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.280 We will stay with that because nothing shows just how 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.119 arrogant modern labor is than the events of this morning inside. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:33.160 The caucus room in Victoria. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.920 We run the show, they said, not voters, we dispatch 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.360 the leader. They said, not voters, we appoint them too. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:41.600 You don't. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.679 As he stood there for his happy snaps with the 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.720 governor's fill in, most Victorians looked at Ben Carroll and said, 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:49.760 who the heck are you? 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.840 We didn't elect you. We didn't elect just Into. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.600 Allen either, but we wanted the right to send her packing, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.120 and yet you shot her anyway. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.680 And now what you expect us to trust? You? 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 You the bloke that used your own daughter as some 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.200 sort of human shield a month ago. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.960 I want to serve your Cintera Allen, and I want 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:13.880 to make sure No. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:14.960 Look that's my people. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:16.440 I've got a young. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.320 Daughter at home, and I'm going to be more proud 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.119 to make sure she grows up knowing that I supported 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.800 your cinter Allen to be a world class premier and 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.079 get re elected in her own role. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.600 Are you going to try to get the premier's job tomorrow? 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:29.840 No? 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.600 Are you going to ask her to step aside. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.519 No, can you look her in the eye so that 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.400 I can say that Premier? 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.120 No surprise is there? That was the first question he copped. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.840 It is press conference today as Victoria's latest premier. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.280 You said six weeks ago that you wanted to support 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.600 just since Alan to be a world class premier. You 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.359 mentioned to your daughter as well. What are you going 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.360 to say to your daughter now that you've ousted the premier? 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:02.160 The circumstance has changed. Yesterday morning, I was approached by 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:09.280 delegation who asked me to stand for leader. This delegation 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.959 had already visited the Premier and informed her that they 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.280 want to change. I'm going to be that change. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:20.680 Now. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.520 Remember that phrase very clearly, because what dogged Julia Gillard 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.079 throughout her sorry time as Prime Minister was her failure 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.119 to explain to voters just why she knifed first term 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:33.600 leader Kevin Rudd. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.160 And this will be Carol's. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:40.040 Challenge because right now, the only reason Allan's gone is 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.560 because of craven self interest Labor MPs fearing that they 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.440 would lose their seats, knowing that Victorians are ashamed of 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.800 what Labour's done to their once proud state. So if 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.160 you think a bit of dex shuffling is going to 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.800 stop the Titanic sinking, then Labor needs to think again. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.800 In a slick and somewhat Smalmi video uploaded just before 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.240 he was hastily sworn in as the state's fiftieth and 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.600 most recently unelected premier, Carol said that dumping Allan was 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.680 to stop one nation, and that was very much what 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.160 he repeated an hour or so later when he fronted 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.080 his press conference, his first as a new Victorian premier, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.520 and tried to justify the morning's coup. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.280 Yesterday, a group of colleagues approached me and informed me 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.920 that Jacinkter Allen no longer had the support of the caucus. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.479 They asked me to put my hand up. This was 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.080 not an easy decision, but the stakes at this election 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:49.599 are too high. Poling says Victoria is on track for 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:55.080 Australia's first liberal one nation government. A liberal one nation 0:04:55.240 --> 0:05:02.360 government that will cut hospitals, cut schools, and cut frontline services. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:07.680 A liberal one nation government that will cut childcare, cut 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:12.640 free tape and so many other services Victorians rely on 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.880 every day. This election. Only Labor can stop the risk 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.560 of a liberal one nation government. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.760 So polling, he says all about saving his political skin, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.640 his job. Now, things so desperate that he can't even 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.799 admit to any failings by Labor. He can't even run 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.359 the line of contrition out. He can't apologize that somehow 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.320 Labor's got things wrong, that it's lost its way. We 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.520 didn't even get that today. Even Gillard didn't gaslight voters 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.000 as badly as Carol did. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:50.560 This morning. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.719 I asked my colleagues to make a leadership change, a 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:00.479 change because I believed that a good government was losing 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:01.120 its way. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.320 Remember that all the Carol could give voters today was 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.160 this limp line that circumstances had changed and that a 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.680 delegation had knocked on his door. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.600 I mean, please, you've. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.520 Promised someone something to their face, haw caning out promise 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:19.599 things to victorians. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.640 The truth is, the circumstances changed, the circumstances changed. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.200 You declared your loyalty to her. At that moment, you 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.279 were loyal to her. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.640 And the circumstances have changed. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:33.720 Had the Premia not. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.080 Lost support of her colleagues last. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:40.679 Month, the circumstances changed, the circumstances changed. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.039 I mean, it was that line over and over again. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.520 You recognize that sort of spin. It's the same spin 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.679 that Albaneze has been running ever since his budget Shocker, isn't. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:07:00.520 It we've changed our positions? No, we've changed our position. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.719 When you say you changed your position, is that a 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.200 concession that you lied. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:09.320 At a statement of fact that we have changed our position. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.040 Can Australians still trust the things you say? 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.040 We have changed our position. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.920 Circumstances have changed and we've changed our position. Now, on 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.080 the same day that Victorian Labor was locked in a 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.520 room and carving up the spoils of power, there was 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.560 a no confidence motion before the Victorian Parliament. Now I'm 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.800 sure the irony about this is not lost on voters, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.679 because if that no confidence motion had got up, rather 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.800 than Labour's factional bobber boys yet again choosing the premiere, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.160 Victorians would have got an early election and democracy would 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.880 have made the call, not Labour's faceless men. Instead, we're 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.760 seeing a rerun of the cancer that's bedeviled our politics, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.640 state and federal over the past fifteen years, ever since 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.400 agreed Gillard rolled a first term PM and set us 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.240 down a path of instability and chaos. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:07.840 And it's both sides. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.840 It's both sides of politics here that wear the blame, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.240 not just labor. You want to know why voters think 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.800 the system's broken, This is why you want to know 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.640 why voters don't trust the major parties who treat power 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.160 as some sort of personal fifetom. Well, this is why 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.040 three Labor leaders in this term of parliament in Victoria, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.160 the three Liberal leaders too. For if you count the 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.719 bloke you lost the last election in twenty twenty two. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.360 So the Lips can't get cocky here either. So what 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.240 happens now? Well, in a move that I said would 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.680 be number one in his playbook, Carol moved fast to 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.800 distance himself from the rotten era of Dan Andrews and 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:52.880 just into Allan. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:59.360 I am not Daniel Andrews. I am not just Sinter Allen. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:06.360 I will do things differently because different times require a 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:07.080 new approach. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.680 And look, as I listened to that from Carol today, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.800 another labor leader came to mind, also installed by factional 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.040 warlords just months out from a state election. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.559 I am nobody's puppets, I am nobody's protege. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.360 I am nobody's girl. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.120 Now, coming from the right as he does, Carol will 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.079 benefit from the fact that both his predecessors were out 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.040 of Labour's dominant left faction. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:38.720 But what will. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.720 Dog him is his role as both a senior cabinet 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.839 minister and later the party's deputy for a good part 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.840 of those terrible years. Now he's been in the Justice 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.559 portfolio in crime prevention they call it, even though crime 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.640 is rampant, corrections and victims support in a state, as 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.160 I say, where crime is an epidemic. He's been a 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.480 minister for well, that's a joke as well, meaning he 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.280 can run, but it can't hide. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:11.520 Different leader, sure, but same corruption, same crime, same debt, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:18.600 same waste, same potholes, same failed services, same old Labor. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:20.199 Now. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.280 Look, the other important thing that happened today is that 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:26.840 Carol used his first very brief press conference to announce 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.559 that there would finally be a Royal commission into the 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:34.680 state's controversial big build and corruption industry construction. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.240 I should say that's fraudian, isn't it. Now? 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.320 I said he would do that, and here's why he'll 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.959 do it because anounzigret now means that Labor will choose 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.400 the Royal commissioner. Labor will also set the terms of reference. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.839 He's not doing it because Victorians deserve the truth. He's 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.880 doing it now while they're in government, to ensure that 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.680 we never get the truth, just like Daniel Andrews and 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:06.839 is a bullshit toothless inquiry into hotel quarantine during COVID. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.320 I can't specifically recall. I can't recall. I presume I did. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.360 I don't recall the conversation, and I have. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.560 Some memory, but not for memory. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.800 I don't recall specifically, not to my recollection. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:19.760 I have no recollection of that. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.760 I can't specifically recall. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.200 Carol was there for all of that. Don't forget that now. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.840 Out of a chaotic day in Melbourne, perhaps the biggest 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:33.480 blunder of all came from many miles away from the 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.640 Prime Minister standing up at a press conference wa at 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.640 a farewell that failed just into Alan Albanezy then ripped 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.880 into the Liberal Party, accusing them of being a party 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.720 of chaos at the very time that his own Labor 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.640 and piece were still locked in a room brawling over 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.720 who would be the new premier. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.880 That they can choose a labor government, or they can 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.840 choose a chaotic coalition of the Liberal Party, One Nation 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.800 and the National Party, including a political party that doesn't 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.440 even know who its leader is or who it's candidates are. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.760 That would be a recipe for chaos. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:14.760 All right. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.319 At that time, there was no labor premier in the 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.040 country in Victoria. Now, Alvin Easy is about as delusional 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.440 as Alan was in her final press conference crowing about 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.920 her achievements as premier. Now, I'm not going to waste 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.640 a lot of time remembering a woman who was never 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.959 elected leader by the voters or face them at an election. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.560 But you can't be allowed to get away with this. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.200 I leave immensely proud of what we have achieved these 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:47.360 past three years. I inherited a rising crime rate. My 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.439 team and I toughened by a laws started adult time, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:57.640 introduced the Violence Reduction Unit. Crime is now falling for 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:02.640 the first time since COVID. I inherited a budget deficit. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:09.239 My team and I made savings whilst always protecting frontline services. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.440 The budget today is now in surplus. I came to 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.920 office in a cost of living crisis. Making life easier 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.040 and more affordable became my mission. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.679 Well that's the spear and here's the facts. Crime and 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.880 Victoria's out of control. It's not under control. Bayl laws 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.360 might be tireder now, but only because labor had changed 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.880 them earlier to make the weakest in the country a 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.760 violence reduction unit. And what even is that? How about 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.079 no violence at all, not just reducing it? And how 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:47.640 about locking offenders up in prison for longer? A surplus budget, 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.760 she said, Well, that's a joke. The debts record two 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.000 hundred billion, bigger than Queensland, New South Wales, Tasmania combined 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.560 ratings agencies would bankrupt Victoria if it wasn't for the 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.840 fact that the Comwealth government acts as some sort of 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:06.679 de facto guarranteur and life more affordable. Well, it might 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.320 be premier on your half a million dollar salary, but 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.600 tell them to a pensioner or a family in the 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:17.520 suburbs with kids. Goodbye and good riddance. Just sind to Allan. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.960 Don't you get comfortable either, Ben Carroll, you're next because 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.240 you can change the leader, but you can't change labor, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:33.720 and voters will do that themselves come November. All right, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.360 let's go to Camber now for the headlines. Sky newsed 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.200 oh sky News News twenty four reporter Rubert. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.960 Spargo, Good evening, the Prime Minister and wa Premier are 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.720 committing four million dollars to a feasibility study into a 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.480 proposed new oil refinery in Western Australia. It will examine 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.360 potential sites for the facility. Australia has two operating oil 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.600 refineries in Queensland and Victoria, and no new refinery has 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.760 been built since the night in sixties. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.840 Our predecessors sat back and watched all refineries close. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.880 They talk about more, few refineries, and then they tax 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.040 the few refineries. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.640 Motorists are expected to pay more at the bowser next week. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.040 Labour is signaling it won't extend the temporary fuel excise 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.240 cunt when it expires on Sunday. The heads of the 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.040 Australian Council of Trade Union Sally McManus and Michelle O'Neill, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.440 are stepping down. Both women have led the peak union 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.080 body for almost a decade. Their successes are yet to 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.200 be announced. Chief Media founder Hannah Ferguson will challenge Anthony 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.080 Alberizi in his Sydney. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.000 Seat at the next election. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.600 She's targeting recent controversy surrounding the Prime Minister, including comments 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.360 about former Australian of the Year Grace Tame and his 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.560 attendants at a donut dinner hosted by Felix Lee. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.720 More people need to be standing up, putting their head 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.400 above the parapet and challenging people like the Prime Minister. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.320 At the end of the day, he's an elected local 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.320 representative and I believe he's failing the area and I 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:57.920 want to change that. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.600 Hannah Ferguson will contest the seat of Grainler as an independent. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.400 Busy day, a chaotic day in Victorian politics, to say 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.720 the least, Join mean now to take you all through 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.040 the twists and turns, and there were plenty. Victorian political 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:17.240 reporter Georgie Dickerson, Well, it was a very interesting morning, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 I have to say, Georgie, because we had to sit 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.520 to Allen come out at nine point thirty and she 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.400 fell on her sword begrudgingly. In her press conference she 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.120 said she would support Carol. But she did say though 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.840 that if there had been a vote, she would have 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.840 won it. But it wasn't smooth once he got in 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.080 that Corcus room, was it. It was touch and go 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.760 that he might end up with a statewide ballad of 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.800 members and it could take six weeks. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.400 Good evening to you, Peter. It was certainly anything but smooth. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.400 This morning week, we're all predicting that it would be 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.520 a relatively short meeting. It was already predicted that Ben 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.040 Carroll would receive the leadership and Gabrielle Williams would be 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.520 his deputy. But in this last ditch attempt by Sonya 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.040 kill Kenny, she put fur her name. The Attorney General 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:06.960 her name put forward as a likely contender. Now, Jacinta 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.119 Allen had said that she was going to back in 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.600 Ben Carroll, but on the nomination form for Sonya kill Kenny, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.800 the former Premier Jacinta Allen had her signature on there. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.200 So we were standing outside the carcus room. We could 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.240 certainly hear a lot of yelling from within the party room. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.960 There was cheers at the start when they had originally entered, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.560 but that certainly changed very quickly. At one point we 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.679 could hear the former premier saying one at a time, 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.520 so certainly some raised voices. Ultimately Ben Carroll coming out 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.920 with the victory and Gabrielle Williams his deputy. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.240 All right, so what do we actually know about Ben Carroll? 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.399 Well, he spent fourteen years in parliament, but before that 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.280 he was a lawyer. He also worked as an advisor 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.520 in the Brax government. But of course his name really 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.879 came up in the media back in twenty twenty three 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.080 when he was elected the Deputy Premier. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.760 Now, of course this was when. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.159 The former Premier Daniel Andrews had announced his resignation and 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.360 there was a plan in place by the former premier 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.919 that he was going to be succeeded by just In 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.679 to Allen as well as Tim Pallas. But similar fashion 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.919 to today, a last ditch attempt by Ben Carroll, he 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.959 threatens to take on the Justin to Alan in that leadership. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.400 Ultimately then he was given the role as Deputy Premier 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.159 and that is where we are today. He of course 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.560 also holds the Education portfolio and that he's been anything 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.879 but smooth sailing over the past few months. Already this 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.400 year there has been two teacher strikes because of failed 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.399 negotiations with the government. With Ben Carroll. Teachers are also 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.879 threatening a third teacher strike in August because the government 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.320 is not giving them the pay they want and they 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.880 are saying this pay deal they need it. They need 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.359 to improve conditions within our schools to be able to 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.560 give students what they need, So that is certainly one 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.240 of the main issues that has been plaguing the now 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.520 Premier Ben Carroll over the past year. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.119 I mentioned to Georgie he has held the Justice portfolio's 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.240 Crime Prevention and corrections as well and roads and they're 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.840 all very topical. The motion, the motion today have no 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.000 confidence in the Government in the Parliament. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:20.080 What happened there, well, they were certainly discussing it in 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.480 great depth and it wasn't sure if it was actually 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.280 still going to go ahead or not given the leadership 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.800 spilled this morning. But the opposition is saying they still 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.560 have no faith in this government. It doesn't matter what 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.280 leader is in charge. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.560 They do not have faith. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.960 So those discussions certainly going on for some time because 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:39.920 they want to see a change. They wanted to see 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.720 it go to an early election. They were hoping for 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.240 people to cross the floor to be able to discuss 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.920 that in depth. So that is certainly one of the 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.000 key issues that the opposition wants to see. Whilst as 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.879 you mentioned as well, in terms of the Royal Commission, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.159 they're saying they're going to have a Royal Commission. The 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.080 Opposition's already been calling for that for months now, so 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.840 they certainly want to see something change. But of course 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.119 for the Liberals, they. 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.440 Just want to see a change of government. Come to 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.119 Thember twenty eight. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.040 I'll over there, Georgie. Thank you for what's been. I've 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.680 busy you a couple of days. Now for you, let's 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.080 go down to our political editor Andrew Clennell. We'll get 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.280 to federal politics at the moment, Andrew, but you're in 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.960 the hot seat. I watched it all with you and 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.119 Laura Jay's at the desk from ten o'clock this morning. 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.280 It was a comedy of errors at one stage. She mentions, there, Georgie, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.719 the shouting outside the room and then Sonia killed Kenny 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.960 throwing a spinner in the works at the last minute. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.800 What did you make of this orderly transition to power 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:34.520 in Victoria? 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.080 For Ben Carroll, it's been a long day, Peter. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:42.479 I think they're done. I actually think they're done. I 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.160 know they've got a big margin, but it's that sort 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.000 of chaos I saw in the dying days of the 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.080 Ucfile's government back in when they ended up winning just 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.080 twenty seats in a ninety three seat parliament in twenty eleven. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.840 And I was in the Parliament when Christina Connely was 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.320 saying she was nobody's girl, but similar scenes. I mean, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.040 I was interested in Springs Street, the access of the 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.800 journalists so close to the gugust room. In other parliaments 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.960 federally and elsewhere, I've seen a bit more distant so 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.639 to hear people yelling. I think that says it all, really, 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.480 And then justinter Allen to back this other woman for 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.919 the leadership, having said you'll stand aside for her to 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.560 spear in on the way through, for him to be 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.360 pretty unconvincing in his performance today. I mean, the only 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.440 winner out of today is Jess Wilson, not Ben Carroll. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.320 What about that comment from the Prime Minister. I played 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:35.760 it a little bit earlier. I'll play it again. 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:37.040 It was a shock. I have a listen. 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:38.160 Look. 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.040 I want to pay tribute to Justinta Allen as the 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.840 Premier of Victoria. I work closely with her both as 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:49.520 Premier and previously. Allen is someone who I think is 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.880 a very decent human being, someone who's motivated by her 0:21:53.960 --> 0:22:03.240 passionate belief in the lifestyle and in education, health, transport 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:09.040 of Victorians and delivering for Victorians. She's someone who can 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.000 be proud I think of her achievements over a long 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:13.800 period of time. 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:15.880 Yeah. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.760 The grab, sorry there, Andrew, the grab I wanted to 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.199 play again was the one where he basically accused the 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.000 Libs of being a party of chaos and only Labor 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.000 was stable. At the very time, of course, that there 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.960 was no Labor leader. There was all a bruhaha in 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.880 the party room, and I thought to myself, his office 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.600 is getting sloppy. I mean, they should have been checking 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.840 in with Melbourne before he stood up and did that doorstop. 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.280