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Speaker 1: The term iceman, first made famous by the character played

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Speaker 1: by Val Kilma in the nineteen eighty six film Top Gun,

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Speaker 1: and it's Goose who says to Maverick as a reason

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Speaker 1: for the moniker, it's the way he flies ie cold,

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Speaker 1: no mistakes, And one may wonder how someone might become

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Speaker 1: that way, unflappable, unaffected by occasional stakes, the person who

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Speaker 1: raises their hand and accepts the moments that truly matter.

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Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary is that man. And if you scratch just

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Speaker 1: beneath the surface, there are reasons and answers to why

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Speaker 1: this old man is about as level headed, calm and

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Speaker 2: Family from the touch line, it looks good.

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Speaker 1: Nathan in that way is his father's son. The trait

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Speaker 1: is inherited. He is. He's the iceman, born with the

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Speaker 1: temperament to look down the barrel of big occasions and

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Speaker 1: process the responsibility he has to turn them his way

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Speaker 1: to win. Minutes to go, seconds to go, no time

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Speaker 1: on the clock, Give me the ball. He's now played

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Speaker 1: in four Grand finals in a row and won three,

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Speaker 1: But perhaps what he did last year in the final

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes best epitomizes what and who he is in

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Speaker 1: the game, in this moment. There is no more dominant player,

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Speaker 1: no one who has his hands on the ball more,

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Speaker 1: no one who commands the respective every player, coach, critic

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Speaker 1: and fair. It is rarefied air to live in that space.

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Speaker 1: A placemost will never experience an environment built to inflate

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Speaker 1: and twist an ego out of shape. Nathan Cleary is

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Speaker 1: constant and level.

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Speaker 2: His method never.

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Speaker 1: Changes, his choices always considered, and his executions seldom without results.

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Speaker 3: What a season.

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Speaker 1: The finals are imminent, September is almost upon us, and

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Speaker 1: the air gets warmer, sun hotter.

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Speaker 2: But Nathan Cleary will not thaw.

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Speaker 1: He will stay as he always does.

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Speaker 4: Together Nathan Cleary, What a player, What a superstar? Hello

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Speaker 4: and welcome to n O three sixty I Beliegue from

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Speaker 4: every Angle, brought to you by NIV Joining me again

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Speaker 4: the great Gordon Tallas. That's been the journal Australian James

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Speaker 4: Hooper and Michael carryanis now we just saw some highlights

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Speaker 4: from Nathan Cleary and breaking news today he may have

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Speaker 4: a new Halves partner, the Paramounter Eels announcing the blaze

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Speaker 4: he's management telling the Paramount Eels that Blaze Tarlay is

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Speaker 4: leaving the club at season's end and most likely will

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Speaker 4: join the Penneth Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Gordy Well, it's good news for the Panthers.

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Speaker 5: I always thought that he wanted to play fullback and

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Speaker 5: Guthson was going to move. He's a young talent. We

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Speaker 5: watched him make his the bill against mainly run over

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Speaker 5: Tommy and scored, so he's a great young athlete. But

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Speaker 5: he wanted to go to another club. I feel a

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Speaker 5: bit sorry for Parim Jason Rowles moving into that seat.

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Speaker 6: The sky's fallen in at Paramatta break. It's a shocking

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Speaker 6: case of mismanagement. They've been played off a break by

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Speaker 6: Isaac Moses player options and they're the one club at

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Speaker 6: the moment who seems to have really gone down this road.

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Speaker 6: And it's not just Blaze to Lungeon, it's also Mitchell Moses,

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Speaker 6: it's also Will Pennasini. They're all big name and superstar

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Speaker 6: players in their back line, but for whatever reason, they've

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Speaker 6: allowed them to put those clauses in their contracts and

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Speaker 6: it's bit in Paramata where it hurts well.

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Speaker 4: We've been saying for a while that they can't let

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Speaker 4: him go. They just can't let this young gun whiz

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Speaker 4: kid go. He's got so much potential. But he's been

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Speaker 4: agitating for months now. I Mick, and we've been hearing

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Speaker 4: that Isaac Moses had been talking to other clubs. Newcastle

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Speaker 4: were interested at one point. The Dragons have been interested

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he'll join Penrith next year for three years. It's

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Speaker 7: a three year deal from next season. And the reason

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Speaker 7: the Panthers haven't released anything yet is the fact that

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Speaker 7: the Eels haven't waived the ten day cooling off period.

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Speaker 7: So the Eels obviously put out a statement to make

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Speaker 7: but they haven't, you know which in the case of

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Speaker 7: Dolphins with the other side that were circling in him

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Speaker 7: Paramatter with ken to Keaton, Paramata wanted him, make no

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Speaker 7: doubt about it. They offered him the fullback position, and

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Speaker 7: I think Blade Blaze was probably a little bit reluctant

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Speaker 4: Why did Blaze leave and why did his agent want

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Speaker 4: him out of the club? And also can you explain

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Speaker 4: to the viewers the clauses and how they come about.

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Speaker 6: Genius play from the Panthers to begin with, for them

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Speaker 6: to see that Blaze clearly was unsettled and unhappy at Paramatter,

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Speaker 6: do their homework, do their due diligence. So I think

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Speaker 6: in a likelihood it will be a package deal. They'll

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Speaker 6: sign his younger brother writer who's recently been picked in

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Speaker 6: the Australians. I'll tell you so, Paramatta right in their

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Speaker 6: wisdom in recent times, since Shawn maclduff's boned, the chairman

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Speaker 6: that when they sit down and negotiate contracts, they let

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Speaker 6: these options or clauses get into the contracts, which means

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Speaker 6: that when it comes to a set season, in Blazer's case,

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Speaker 6: it's this year twenty twenty four, Well, he has until

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Speaker 6: round ten or round eleven to take up an option

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Speaker 6: for next year, or if he doesn't, all he's free

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Speaker 6: to go. Now why you would do that when you've

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Speaker 6: got a local young gun junior. He was part of

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Speaker 6: their SG ball premiership winning side last year. They've now

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Speaker 6: and they're all going else.

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Speaker 2: Sweet, that's a disgrace. I mean, I don't have much

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Speaker 4: I don't know anyone out there, but they've got such

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Speaker 4: a big breeding ground out there of young players. They've

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Speaker 2: They can't contain or maintain.

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Speaker 4: Those players at that club, and they put clauses in

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Speaker 4: their contract to give them an option of If I'm

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Speaker 5: Talking about week clubs. But it's like week leadership clubs

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Speaker 5: always put the clauses in. Is there a chance that

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Speaker 6: I'd be surprised, Gordon. I understand where you're coming from,

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Speaker 6: don't think that they will. The managers certainly love those

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Speaker 6: But year one hundred percent, like what's been laid bare

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Speaker 6: for everyone to see in this case with Blaze to

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Speaker 6: Lungey is the lack of Rugby League IQ at the

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Speaker 6: absolute top of Paramatta. Make no mistake, the chairman and

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Speaker 6: were never a chance of signing him. Right. They have

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Speaker 6: put a red pen through Paramatta's season. It's been a

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Speaker 6: complete right off because of their decisions. Imagine the morale Gordon,

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Speaker 6: the best young kid leaving right. Other blakes are getting tapped.

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Speaker 5: On the experience have been tapped on the FLA.

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Speaker 6: I think they've won one game since Brad Arthur was sacked.

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Speaker 8: And it's obviously blair of Jason Rolls.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: Jason Roll's first big task was trying to keep to

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Speaker 7: obviously negotiations were advanced by the time he came into

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Speaker 7: the role, but you know he's met with the kid.

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Speaker 7: Is obviously offered him the potential to play fullback.

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Speaker 4: And I know you make a good point, right, but

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Speaker 4: I can't see this being Jason's.

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Speaker 2: I want to stick it up for him because we've

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Speaker 4: We know what Isaac mass is like as an agent,

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Speaker 4: and he's been working on this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: This deal has been done. He was going a long

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Speaker 2: time ago, but well before.

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Speaker 5: When you get those clauses, you got one like you've

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Speaker 5: got the money here and if it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 5: you stay there. You editate, but there must have been

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Speaker 6: It's unfair to blame Jason Rowles. Jack Gibson always said

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Speaker 6: on right, and Jack won through premierships with the Yels.

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Speaker 6: If you look at the way that they're doing things

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Speaker 6: only the beginning of how bad it could get. A

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Speaker 6: paramountic Mitchell Moses is got a clause. I think it'll

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Speaker 6: be gone. I can't see He's thirty in September right,

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Speaker 6: he's managed by the same Blakers plays to Lungey's managed

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Speaker 4: You're saying that this could happen to Paramatter and their

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Speaker 4: fans in another year or two because Moses has the

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Speaker 4: same similar clause.

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Speaker 6: Mitchell's got the same clause. Let's talk next year. Next year,

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Speaker 6: Dylan Brown's got the same clause and says Will Panasceni

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Speaker 6: and Panaceni is Will Perasni as well.

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Speaker 2: So when they go most likely terrible next year.

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Speaker 4: And that's no disrespect the roles because I feel sorry

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Speaker 4: ordinary this year. They're losing key players again, tar Langi,

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Speaker 4: one of them. Moses then plays next year, wins Origin

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Speaker 4: Series and he starts thinking, well, hang on, my time's

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Speaker 4: this clause, let's execute it. The Bulldogs need a seven,

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Speaker 4: Broncos may need a seven. Who knows a club in

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Speaker 4: a strong position, with strong board members, who.

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Speaker 2: Can potentially win a club.

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Speaker 4: And we're going to be doing this same conversation about

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Speaker 4: one of the best players in.

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Speaker 6: The one hundred percent bang on. And this is where

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Speaker 6: you've got to tip your hat to the Panthers the

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Speaker 6: way that they have set the club up. We know

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Speaker 6: how successful they are on the field, but there now

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Speaker 6: the benchmark off the field for them to identify that.

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Speaker 6: They know that Jerome Lew was leaving at the end

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Speaker 6: to be Jack cole But they go and see Blaze too, Lungy.

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Speaker 6: They do their homework. He came through as a fullback

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Speaker 6: and a five eight. It's a genius play from Penrith

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Speaker 6: and it just underlines and it would be horrible for

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Speaker 6: they're bitter arch rivals. Paramatta used to be the Kings

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Speaker 6: of the West. Mate. Right now they're not even in

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Speaker 6: the conversation. The Panthers are an absolute goliath and Paramatta

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Speaker 2: A big carrot too.

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Speaker 4: I was actually having lunch today with Joey John's when

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Speaker 4: the news come through and we had a conversation about this.

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Speaker 4: Were thinking, Okay, Blaze to Lungey, he's going to the

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Speaker 4: Panthers five eight partners with Nathan Cleary. That's a fair

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Speaker 4: carrot for a young gun like Blaze who has played

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Speaker 4: in the halves in the lowell grades at Paramatta to

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Speaker 4: then join the best him from the competition at the

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Speaker 2: This could be a formidable combination.

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Speaker 7: We look at if he stayed at Paramatta, he's throwing

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Speaker 4: But I had Coga there at one point and he

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Speaker 7: Play off the cuff like Jerome does, you know, like

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Speaker 7: But you know, once he gets out at Penrith, he

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Speaker 2: They wonder Paramount didn't give him the colling. I've done

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Speaker 6: But what bother bother there's no ways back for they're

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Speaker 2: Their arch enemy and rivals have just got their best

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Speaker 6: The money talks that wouldn't honestly, Gordon, I don't think

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Speaker 5: What do you think with all these causes the thoughts

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Speaker 7: Seriously, you look like you look at Penrith' two key

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Speaker 3: Some of their fans would feel like it, well.

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Speaker 8: Some of them wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: We've seen obviously Fisher Harris leave, Taylor may not there

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Speaker 4: And what it also explains, because we were questioning why

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Speaker 7: That's the player that I think they spent not all

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Speaker 4: I could work from enough to just keep making good

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Speaker 2: I believe he grew up.

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Speaker 4: If I'm Rollsey, I'm desperate to get someone like him

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Speaker 4: If for me it would be what do you guys think, well.

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Speaker 8: It has to be.

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Speaker 7: He would have to be the number one priority because

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Speaker 3: And if there are any chance to keep their seven

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it strengthens zeal You've got Brown

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Speaker 2: That's a good spine.

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Speaker 6: It's outstanding. I just get the feeling rooting the two

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Speaker 6: out the pot. It's lose, loose talk. It's loose talk.

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Speaker 6: No one's confirmed it Bulldog. Richie's obviously gone with it today.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying they won't have a crack. If I'm

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Speaker 2: He loves, but he does, he loves.

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Speaker 4: He loves living in Melbourne too, but there is cap

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Speaker 4: a significant pay rise if he went there.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Brian was all the talk at the Panthers training this morning,

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Speaker 4: as the players did their best to hose down speculation

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Speaker 4: their star winger is getting restless.

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Speaker 3: Where's Beso?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he's a bit crook. He's a bit

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Speaker 6: He got the day off.

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Speaker 2: Is that coincidental because he's in the headlines?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he didn't want to come in. He's

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Speaker 9: just a bit crook, so they've just given him a rest.

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Speaker 9: See the headlines yesterday that he's potentially wanting to get

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Speaker 9: out of Panthers And did that shock to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I didn't buy into it.

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Speaker 9: You can tell you how much he loves the club

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Speaker 10: You know, if something's going to happen, I'm sure busy

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Speaker 2: He has addressed to you guys at also.

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Speaker 10: Now, well, I don't feel like he needs to mate.

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Speaker 3: Nah, not at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we break this story last night on All three

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Speaker 4: he's getting what he's worth, and the players they're quick

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Speaker 4: to hose down those rumors.

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Speaker 2: But what are we hearing.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a it's a money thing there, breath.

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Speaker 7: He will be nextually the highest paid winner in the game,

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Speaker 2: Thousand money thing. What is it that because it's the

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Speaker 8: It's not the only thing.

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Speaker 7: No, you look at the players that have left the

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Speaker 7: club or leaving the club, they're is best mates you've got.

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Speaker 8: Well, he wants to play with them. He spent some

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Speaker 2: So you think he wants to leave the player with

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Speaker 8: I think so.

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Speaker 7: I'm serious, but he's think he's the best guy said

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Speaker 7: last to strengthened their team for you guys said last week,

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Speaker 2: Is it not about money?

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Speaker 8: It was the first big He's on six hundred and

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Speaker 8: fifty thousand dollars next.

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Speaker 2: Week, twenty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 7: In next year, goes to six fifty right, what would

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Speaker 2: He wants to play with his mates.

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Speaker 8: I think that's what happened in the camp.

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Speaker 6: I think he got his head turned. I'll get what

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Speaker 6: were you're getting to, Mick. I think he got his

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Speaker 6: Blue Mountains. I don't know who it was. He's obviously best.

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Speaker 6: He's with your own law. Somehow it's come up in

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Speaker 6: West Tigers. I don't know how. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: Can't understand. Well, it's obviously that the three Compson he

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Speaker 6: He's probably going to win four. Of course, it's going

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Speaker 2: I think this is he hasn't been started.

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Speaker 3: He left, He left your mates to go play.

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Speaker 7: If he's on six hundred and fifty K, how much

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Speaker 7: do you really I heard you guys say I think

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Speaker 7: he could be a million dollar player.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, get Josh.

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Speaker 7: No one is offering on six fifty next year.

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Speaker 8: That is the benchmark for the best wingers in the game.

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Speaker 2: Four.

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Speaker 4: He could get nine hundred the West hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 7: They're making the same mistakes that they've made for the last.

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Speaker 4: I haven't They've never bought a Brian to Or for

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Speaker 4: nine hundred thousand dollars to watch him play foot watch.

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Speaker 7: Him play, and I think he's paid as the highest

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Speaker 7: paid winger in the game, which is at six fifty.

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Speaker 4: You don't think I would not pay He's the most

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Speaker 4: consistent player I have consistent.

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Speaker 8: He's a very good knocking Bryan.

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Speaker 4: But I'm trying to explain why I think he's working.

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Speaker 2: He's an extra forward as well as our winger.

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Speaker 5: But what about if we sell it here like this,

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Speaker 5: he's going to go there to play fullback.

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Speaker 7: You want to you want to compare, You want to

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Speaker 7: compare the others that are on big money. Zach Lomax

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Speaker 7: signed as a fullback, Nick Katrick signed as they are

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Speaker 7: the guys on signed as a center.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: So that's why Ryan more consistent than Zach Lomax his career.

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Speaker 4: Every other word, is it a gamble or a risk

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Speaker 4: risk paying over for a player.

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Speaker 8: Like toll But I'm not going to nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: But is it a gamble?

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Speaker 6: Or what if your West Tiger's there where they're at

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Speaker 6: they've got to river. But another circle backer, Brian could

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Speaker 2: I would, and he would.

440
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 6: About money, no, I don't think it is all about

441
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 6: day right. I think that he's got his head turning camp. Look,

442
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 6: the key thing is he hasn't been shopped. Nobody shopped him.

443
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 6: I think it just come out of blakes in state

444
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 6: of origin.

445
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: Camp.

446
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 6: We've seen this happen before they all talk. They're all

447
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 6: discusseding salaries and whatever else is going might want to go.

448
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 7: Where the four people that were his groomsmen at his wedding,

449
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 7: Spencer Lenums, Stephen Kreyer.

450
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 2: Are different, time different.

451
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 4: They've all left left lacause if he doesn't have a

452
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 4: close bond that team, you watch him when they score trys.

453
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: They all love each other out there. That's why they.

454
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: Are as successful as they are. There's a they're they're

455
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 4: his best mates, but when you win a premiership, there's

456
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 4: a special bond between all of them. I know it,

457
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 4: and you know it too, Gordy, he's not his mates

458
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 4: with all of them out there.

459
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 6: We've all seen how close and Jerome Leuia, I just

460
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 6: get the feeling as they're reading. No, no, I'm not

461
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 6: saying that's the sole reason, right, but I am saying

462
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 6: we've all seen how close they are. Jerome was the

463
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 6: best man at his wedding. I get the feeling as

464
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 6: they must have had some sort of conversation. I think

465
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 6: it'll all come to a head in the next twenty

466
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 6: four hours.

467
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: YEA, it happened, I'll tell you what will happen. Pendrieth

468
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: will go he's an extra fifty year.

469
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 6: Or possibly or they might say, mate, you know you're

470
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 6: the best paid winger in the comp you're actually staying

471
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 6: for the next two seasons. You're going to honor your

472
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 6: current deal and then if you want to go to

473
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 6: the market after that, feel free.

474
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: I can't see Penrith letting him go out all what

475
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 4: do you guys think is going to happen?

476
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 9: Then?

477
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 6: For me, I think it all gets nutted out in

478
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 6: the next twenty four hours. His agent has gone out

479
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 6: today and met with Matt Cameron, who's the CEO of

480
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 6: the Panthers group, and I dare say that they'll thrash

481
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 6: it all out by the end of business tomorrow.

482
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 8: I think they'll get a little bit of an upgrade

483
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 8: and stay.

484
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: That's what.

485
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 7: I don't think it's But I think I don't think

486
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 7: at first, I don't know anyone's going to pay m

487
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 7: nine hundred thousand dollars right, and he's on good money.

488
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 7: He's not an underhafety. He's not an under the underpaid.

489
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 7: We've seen it before when players are four hundred, they

490
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 7: could get eight hundred or whatever the case may be.

491
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: You're this kid, yeah about money, but his manager.

492
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 8: Is I wouldn't say that.

493
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, they clipped the ticket, that's why they agitate.

494
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 8: This is not this has come from.

495
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: Out of.

496
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 5: The markets. Because then and he said to his agent,

497
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 5: you know what, I don't what. I'm really happy here.

498
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: I just signed a four year deal. Please don't say anything.

499
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: I'm going to stay here, Okay.

500
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: Benji Marshall has broken his silence on the fun you to.

501
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: He come out in his departure saying he understands what

502
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 4: the young prop wanted out.

503
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 11: I've had a lot of chats with Stefano through the

504
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 11: whole process, and one thing that has always remained as

505
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 11: how much he loves the club. And now his decision

506
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 11: to leave is about him wanting to explore himself and

507
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 11: find better pastures. We get that, and you know, we

508
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 11: made it pretty clear that if you didn't want to

509
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 11: be here.

510
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 12: That's why Richard came out the other day and said

511
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 12: they want players in for the fight. What exactly does

512
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 12: that need to expand on that? I have to ask Richie,

513
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 12: he said it, you teased the final has been in

514
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 12: for the Flint though LUs all years that he's been playing.

515
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, so what you're saying words in my mouth, asking well,

516
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 11: that's probably a question for RICHI.

517
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, Okay, let's get Rich on the line.

518
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 6: Now Rich is in the crocodile right, He's still in

519
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 6: the crocodile roll and the crocodile right.

520
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: Taking from that that Benji doesn't agree with Rich I

521
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: on that call.

522
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 6: I think Benji was just deflecting and I didn't want.

523
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 7: To answer a hard question with I didn't want to

524
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 7: get either either his boss or the player that he's

525
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 7: got to coach for the next uble. I think he

526
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 7: handled it Tyson. Jackson was asking the good questions there,

527
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 7: but I think he handled it as well as he could.

528
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 8: What's he going to say?

529
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 7: It's a no win situation there for Benji either death right,

530
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 7: your boss or the player that you're trying to keep

531
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 7: some sort of lose Harminar with.

532
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 8: Yeah, So it was a tough one for him.

533
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: It has been a tough one.

534
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: While Benji has defended the players who missed the team

535
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: bus in New Zealand.

536
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: Tell you look and you came out yesterday.

537
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 12: A couple of the younger Blacks missed the bus because

538
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 12: I'm taking care of obviously their teammates. What's it like

539
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 12: obviously to have that morale with the boys that they're

540
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 12: are so committed to.

541
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 11: I guess, yeah, Well, it's a lot's been probably made

542
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 11: of it, and probably a negative light. But those guys

543
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 11: made an honest mistake. They stepped through their alarm, turned

544
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 11: it off, and from our point of view, we're dealing

545
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 11: with it internally.

546
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 8: The truth is the bus driver had to go.

547
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 11: He couldn't wait any longer, and they wouldn't have missed

548
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 11: the bus because they are two minutes after us, and

549
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 11: so we had to leave the bus behind them. They

550
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 11: actually got to the airport before us, so it was

551
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 11: my call for the bus to go. I'm not sticking

552
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 11: up for those guys and saying it's right. But if

553
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 11: they're out on the drink and missing the bus because

554
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 11: those reasons, it's a different story.

555
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: But that's not the case. Face loose, they lose must

556
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: bit hard.

557
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: Is that that real early flight out like that, you

558
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 5: know the one where you get up about three o'clock

559
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 5: us the time to get on that five or so, they.

560
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: Must have had a faster imag drive I ain't got

561
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: there before.

562
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: Them, or slow bus drive hurry? Now?

563
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Is this let's let's be serious.

564
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 8: Is this is this is a big deal or not

565
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 8: not for mine, not in isolation.

566
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 7: If we're just looking and breaking it down and looking

567
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 7: at these as three young players eighteen Luke Low Lily

568
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 7: Lucky Galvin and Talon de Silver with the three players

569
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 7: at eighteen nineteen years of age. So it's you know,

570
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 7: they're all in a room together because Luke apparently had

571
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 7: a back concussion. They all spent the night together in

572
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 7: the one room, three of them, three of them in

573
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 7: the one room.

574
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: You guys, But like one thing, this is, this is

575
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: what's hard to believe young kids these days.

576
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: Isn't there fun attached to them?

577
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 7: Well, they had the phone, apparently one of them hit

578
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 7: the snooze button, had one phone, one of them set

579
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 7: the alant look.

580
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 6: And I'm not shooting holes in the y.

581
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: I fine.

582
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 6: It sounds like a little bit of a snow whtt

583
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 6: and the Seven Dwarfs fairy tale. It's not a crime

584
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 6: of the Center. It's not a crime of the Central

585
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 6: only stretch. But I know other clubs. I'm thinking of

586
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 6: the Melbourne Storm. I'm thinking of Penrith. If you miss

587
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: the bus, well you're getting dropped for the following week.

588
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 6: I know where the Tigers are.

589
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: At eighteen or nineteen year olds, right, learn your lesson.

590
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: To be taught, you've got to be taught your less

591
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: I mean like I can't. I can't bind again. I

592
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 4: don't think this is a massive deal. And they are young,

593
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want to it's one hemeron.

594
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: But these things here, mobile phones, like we all use

595
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: them as alarms.

596
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: There's anyone there's.

597
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: Three kids or three guys, three footy players need to

598
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: use the one hotel alarm.

599
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: From the get up, I think it's and.

600
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: Like, this is nothing.

601
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 5: I've caught enough busses. Everybody's on the bus with five

602
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: to go, Like that's a thing. Like normally, if you're

603
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: in a good culture, everybody's on the bus five to ten. Like, mate,

604
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: you're always early in isolation.

605
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 6: It's not that much for a big deal. I reckon

606
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 6: where it feeds into a bigger piction narrative. There's a

607
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 6: beef on at the Tigers at the moment. We spoke

608
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 6: about it last week. John Bait has had a crack

609
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 6: at Benji about the fact that from his point of view,

610
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 6: Benji's treating the senior players like kids, and he's treating

611
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 6: the young guns like senior players and this and the punishment.

612
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: The punishment surprise may I thought, I wonder if they

613
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 6: got five thousand dollars fine too, I don't know whatever,

614
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 6: it'd be two thousand dollars, five thousand dollar fine. The

615
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 6: punishment was ten minutes of extras on the assault bike

616
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 6: and on the rower, which to me sounds pretty cruise control.

617
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: I know you mean setting the standards right, putting the

618
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: bar up here because it's been down here for too

619
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: long at the club.

620
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: So I understand. But we'll see how they handle that

621
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: moving forward. The Newcastle Knights musical chairs.

622
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: Let's have a look at their halves combinations throughout this year.

623
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: Sorry Hastings gamble, gamble, Cogger Hastings Cogger Hastings gamble, Hastings Cogger, Hastings,

624
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: Price Hastings gamble, Crossland gamble.

625
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: And we're up to around twenty one. I'm dizzy reading

626
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: this out.

627
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: There's a big gamble then this is this is.

628
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: I mean, we can laugh all we want, but it's

629
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: a serious issue in Newcastle.

630
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: And well, how do you get your continuity right? How

631
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: do you get your teammates knowing how you play? Sometimes

632
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: it can take a while to get that cohesion, you

633
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: know when you've got to work definitely, and just understand

634
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: when you're tied, you're fatigued, especially defensively. You know. It's

635
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: it's strange. And I thought they bought Coga, didn't he

636
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 5: like he opened up? People say that he happened up

637
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: the Grand Final last year. I'm not a half, but

638
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: you know he's played great and they.

639
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 6: Bought Nathan Cleary said that. Nathan Cleary said he unlocked

640
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 6: me in the Grand Final last year and they specifically

641
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 6: went out and brought him in. Look, he hasn't played

642
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 6: a hell of a lot of nurl this season. When

643
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 6: you got that much instability breath in the halves, you

644
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 6: know yourself, you can't have musical chairs in key positions. Well,

645
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: that's not going to lend itself to winning games and

646
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 6: playing finals footy. A lot of fans are saying, well,

647
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 6: does that mean that there should be heat on Adam

648
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 6: O'Brien or the club when he assigned him last year

649
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: to a three deal. So I think he's trying to

650
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: do the best with what he's got.

651
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: I think we coger.

652
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: I don't know you too harsh, but it's one of

653
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: these situations where you get a player like him at

654
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: a club like Penrith or even Melbourne with a monster

655
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: or a clearing next to you, and you kind of

656
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, you're turning to a economy a little bit.

657
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: And obviously it's a lot easier with those guys inside you.

658
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: It's a lot easier when you're winning games every week.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot easier when you've got the forward pack

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Speaker 4: that you've got and you're getting quick played the balls

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you've got time and space.

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Speaker 4: And then other clubs are looking going, well, you know what,

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Speaker 4: we can get some value out of him. He's playing

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Speaker 4: at a premier club and he's turning up every week

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Speaker 4: and putting in really good performances. And then Newcastle have

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Speaker 4: gone and paid overs for him because really Coga before

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Speaker 4: he went to Penrith had struggled to find his spot anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Was that, Yeah, he'd been at Newcastle before?

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Speaker 6: Is that the bulldogs for a while Over in the UK.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a decent player. But I think where

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Speaker 6: where the Knights are a victim of their own decisions

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Speaker 6: is they've come and brought in a new recruitment manager.

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Speaker 6: There's been a lot of chopping and changing amongst all

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Speaker 6: key position staff. There, different people at different stages have

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Speaker 6: had hold of the recruitment and retention signature pen and

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Speaker 6: so that's why they've got this liquorice all sorts roster

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Speaker 6: that Peter A. Sullivan's now trying to reshape and.

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Speaker 8: They haven't had Kalen for a long time.

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Speaker 7: Klum Ponger, right, he obviously is their attacking spark because

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Speaker 7: Tyson Gamble is obviously the best runner I guess time

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Speaker 7: and trying to create things off the cuff. The other

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Speaker 7: guys are pretty structured players and without kalm Ponger there's

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Speaker 7: not much fluency there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've realized now that they need more

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Speaker 4: than Kaalon and they've got a lot of work to

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Speaker 4: do in Newcastle as we just could see right there.

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Speaker 4: And just the quick reminder in our All three to

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Speaker 4: sixty will exclusively reveal the contributors, referees and coaches inducted

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Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame next Tuesday and Wednesday from

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Speaker 4: six thirty pm, So stay tuned in time now for

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Speaker 4: for better thanks to n ib Boys.

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Speaker 6: Adam Reynolds this week and Broth of Brisbane. Wrong guys, look,

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Speaker 6: they simply have to win. It might not be enough

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Speaker 6: to get him into the finals, but he's been in

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Speaker 6: the headlines this week. I'm expecting a response.

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Speaker 7: Ben Hunt had a shocker last week for the Dragons,

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Speaker 7: gets to play in Melbourne this week.

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Speaker 8: If there are any chance, he's going to be at

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Speaker 8: his best.

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Speaker 4: And I think he'll bounce back to Mick, thank you

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Speaker 4: very much for tonight. I thank you Hoops. Up next,

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Speaker 4: it's a Legends agenda with Jeff Tuv and Benny Als