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Speaker 1: The term iceman, first made famous by the character played

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Speaker 1: and it's Goose who says to Maverick as a reason

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Speaker 1: for the moniker, it's the way he flies ie cold,

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Speaker 1: no mistakes, And one may wonder how someone might become

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Speaker 1: that way, unflappable, unaffected by occasional stakes, the person who

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Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary is that man.

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Speaker 1: And if you scratch just beneath the surface, there are

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Speaker 1: reasons and answers to why this old man is about

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Speaker 3: As they come.

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Speaker 4: Family from the touch line, it looks good.

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Speaker 1: Nathan in that way is his father's son.

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Speaker 4: The trait is inherited.

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Speaker 1: He is. He's the iceman, born with a temperament to

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Speaker 1: responsibility he has to turn them his way to win.

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Speaker 1: Minutes to go, seconds to go, no time on the clock,

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Speaker 1: Give me the ball. He's now played in four Grand

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Speaker 1: finals in a row and won three.

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Speaker 2: But perhaps what he did last year in the final.

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Speaker 1: Twenty minutes best epitomizes what and who he is in

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Speaker 1: the game, in this moment. There is no more dominant player,

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Speaker 1: no one who has his hands on the ball more,

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Speaker 1: no one who commands the respective every player, coach, critic

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Speaker 4: It is rarefied air.

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Speaker 1: To live in that space, a place most will never experience,

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Speaker 1: an environment built to inflate and twist an ego out

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Speaker 3: His method never.

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Speaker 1: Changes, his choices always considered, and his executions seldom without results.

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Speaker 3: What a season.

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Speaker 1: The finals are imminent, September is almost upon us, and

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Speaker 4: But Nathan Cleary will not thaw.

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Speaker 1: He will stay as he always does.

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Speaker 4: Hath together Nathan Cleary. What a player? What a superstar?

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Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to n O three sixty O Beliegue

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Speaker 4: from Every Angle, brought to you by NIV Joining me

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Speaker 4: again the great Gordon tallis growth. That's been the journal

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Speaker 4: Australian James Hooper and Michael Carriyanas Now we just saw

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Speaker 4: some highlights from Nathan Cleary and breaking news today he

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Speaker 4: may have a new Halves partner, the Paramounter Eels announcing

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Speaker 4: the blaze Tar Langey, We're not so much as Para Eels,

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Speaker 4: but he's management telling the Paramount Eels that Blaze Tarla

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Speaker 3: Gordy Well, it's good news for the Panthers.

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Speaker 5: I always thought that he wanted to play fullback and

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Speaker 5: Guthson was going to move. He's a young talent. We

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Speaker 5: watched him make his the bill against mainly run over

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Speaker 5: he wanted to go to another club. I feel a

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Speaker 2: The sky's fallen in at Paramatta break. It's a shocking

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Speaker 2: case of mismanagement. They've been played off a break by

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Speaker 2: Isaac Moses player options and they're the one club at

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Speaker 2: the moment who seems to have really gone down this road.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just Blaze to Lungeon, it's also Mitchell Moses,

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Speaker 2: it's also Will Pennasini. They're all big name and superstar

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Speaker 2: allowed them to put those clauses in their contracts and

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Speaker 2: it's bit in Paramata where it hurts well.

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Speaker 4: We've been saying for a while that they can't let

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Speaker 4: him go. They just can't let this young gun whiz

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Speaker 4: agitating for months now. I Mick, and we've been hearing

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Speaker 4: that Isaac Moses had been talking to other clubs. Newcastle

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Speaker 4: were interested at one point. The Dragons have been interested

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll join Penrith next year for three years. It's

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Speaker 6: a three year deal from next season. And the reason

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Speaker 6: the Eels haven't waived the ten day cooling off period.

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Speaker 6: So the Eels obviously put out a statement to make

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Speaker 6: but they haven't, you know which in the case of

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Speaker 6: Paramatter with ken to Keaton, Paramata wanted him, make no

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Speaker 6: I think Blade Blaze was probably a little bit reluctant

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Speaker 4: Why did Blaze leave and why did his agent want

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Speaker 4: him out of the club? And also can you explain

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Speaker 4: to the viewers the clauses and how they come about.

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Speaker 2: Genius play from the Panthers to begin with, for them

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Speaker 2: to see that Blaze clearly was unsettled and unhappy at Paramatter,

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Speaker 2: do their homework, do their due diligence. So I think

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Speaker 2: in a likelihood it will be a package deal. They'll

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Speaker 2: sign his younger brother writer who's recently been picked in

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Speaker 2: the Australians. I'll tell you so, Paramatta right in their

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Speaker 2: wisdom in recent times, since Shawn maclduff's boned, the chairman

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Speaker 2: that when they sit down and negotiate contracts, they let

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Speaker 2: these options or clauses get into the contracts, which means

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Speaker 2: that when it comes to a set season, in Blazer's case,

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Speaker 2: it's this year twenty twenty four, Well, he has until

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Speaker 2: round ten or round eleven to take up an option

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Speaker 2: to go. Now why you would do that when you've

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Speaker 2: got a local young gun junior. He was part of

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Speaker 2: their SG ball premiership winning side last year. They've now

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Speaker 4: Sweet, that's a disgrace. I mean, I don't have much

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Speaker 4: they lose three of their spine from that SG ball team.

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Speaker 4: They can't contain or maintain those players at that club,

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Speaker 4: and they put clauses in their contract to give them

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Speaker 5: Talking about week clubs. But it's like week leadership clubs

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Speaker 5: always put the clauses in. Is there a chance that

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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised, Gordon. I understand where you're coming from,

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Speaker 2: don't think that they will. The managers certainly love those

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Speaker 2: But year one hundred percent, like what's been laid bare

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Speaker 2: for everyone to see in this case with Blaze to

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Speaker 2: Lungey is the lack of Rugby League IQ at the

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Speaker 2: absolute top of Paramatta. Make no mistake, the chairman and

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Speaker 2: were never a chance of signing him.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: They have put a red pen through Paramatta's season. It's

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Speaker 2: been a complete right off because of their decisions. Imagine

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Speaker 2: the morale Gordon, amongst the playing group at the moment

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Speaker 2: they You've got the best young kid leaving right. Other

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Speaker 2: blakes are getting tapped.

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Speaker 5: On the experience have been tapped on the SELD.

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Speaker 2: I think they've won one game since Brad Arthur was sacked.

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Speaker 7: And it's obviously Blair of Jason Rolls.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: Jason Roll's first big task was trying to keep to

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Speaker 6: obviously negotiations were advanced by the time he came into

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Speaker 6: Is obviously offered him the potential to play fullback.

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Speaker 4: And I know you make a good point, right, but

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Speaker 4: I can't see this being Jason's I want to stick

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Speaker 4: it up for him because we've been talking about this

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Speaker 4: as an agent, and he's been working on this for

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Speaker 4: a long time. This deal has been done. He was

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Speaker 5: When you get those clauses, you got one like you've

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Speaker 5: got the money here and if it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 5: you stay there. You editate, but there must have been

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Speaker 2: It's unfair to blame Jason Rowles. Jack Gibson always said

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Speaker 4: If you look at.

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Speaker 2: The way that they're doing things and the fact that

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Speaker 2: how bad it could get. A paramountic Mitchell Moses is

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Speaker 2: got a clause. I think it'll be gone. I can't

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Speaker 2: see He's thirty in September right, he's managed by the

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Speaker 2: same Blakers plays to Lungey's managed by So.

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Speaker 4: You're saying that this could happen to Paramatter and their

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Speaker 4: same similar clause.

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Speaker 2: Mitchell's got the same clause. Let's talk next year. Next year,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Brown's got the same clause and says Will Panasceni

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Speaker 4: So when they go most likely terrible next year. And

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Speaker 4: of them. Moses then plays next year, wins Origin Series

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Speaker 4: I want to win a premiership. I've got this clause,

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Speaker 4: let's execute it. The Bulldogs need a seven, Broncos may

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Speaker 4: And we're going to be doing this same conversation about

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Speaker 4: one of the best players in.

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Speaker 2: The one hundred percent bang on. And this is where

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Speaker 2: you've got to tip your hat to the Panthers the

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Speaker 2: way that they have set the club up. We know

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Speaker 2: how successful they are on the field, but there now

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Speaker 2: the benchmark off the field for them to identify that.

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Speaker 2: They know that Jerome Lew was leaving at the end

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Speaker 2: to be Jack cole But they go and see Blaze too, Lungy.

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Speaker 2: They do their homework. He came through as a fullback

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Speaker 2: and a five eight. It's a genius play from Penrith

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Speaker 2: and it just underlines and it would be horrible for

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Speaker 2: paramount of members and fans to have to stomach that

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Speaker 2: they're bitter arch rivals. Paramatta used to be the Kings

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Speaker 2: of the West. Mate. Right now they're not even in

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Speaker 2: the conversation. The Panthers are an absolute goliath and Paramatta

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Speaker 4: A big carrot too. I was actually having lunch today

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Speaker 4: with Joey John's when the news come through and we

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Speaker 4: had a conversation about this. Were thinking, Okay, Blaze to Lungey,

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Speaker 4: he's going to the Panthers five eight partners with Nathan Cleary.

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Speaker 4: That's a fair carrot for a young gun like Blaze

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Speaker 4: They wonder Paramount didn't give him the colling. I've done

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Speaker 2: But what bother bother there's no ways back for they're

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Speaker 4: Their arch enemy and rivals have just got their best

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Speaker 2: The money talks that wouldn't honestly, Gordon, I don't think

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Speaker 5: What do you think with all these causes the thoughts

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Speaker 3: Seriously, you look.

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Speaker 6: Like you look at Penrith' two key signs next year

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Speaker 3: Some of their fans would feel like it, well.

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Speaker 7: Some of them wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: We've seen obviously Fisher Harris leave, Taylor may not there

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Speaker 6: That's the player that I think they spent not all

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Speaker 4: I could work from enough to just keep making good

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Speaker 4: hasn't re signed with Melbourne as yet. This has to

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Speaker 7: Well, it has to be.

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Speaker 6: He would have to be the number one priority because

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Speaker 6: it was Clamox.

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Speaker 7: They need a big kill.

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Speaker 6: They need someone that's going to spark that side, to

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Speaker 3: And if there are any chance to keep their seven

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it strengthens zeal You've got Brown

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Speaker 2: It's outstanding. I just get the feeling rooting the two

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Speaker 2: out the pot. It's lose, loose talk. It's loose talk.

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Speaker 2: No one's confirmed it Bulldog. Richie's obviously gone with it

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Speaker 2: If I'm on Papa House and I reckon, I want

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Speaker 4: He loves, but he does, he loves. He loves living

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Brian was all the talk at the Panthers training this morning,

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Speaker 4: as the players did their best to hose down speculation

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Speaker 4: their star winger is getting restless.

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Speaker 3: Where's Beso?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's a bit crook. He's a bit

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Speaker 4: worse than everyone else.

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Speaker 2: He got the day off.

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Speaker 4: Is that coincidental because he's in the headlines? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he didn't want to come in.

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Speaker 3: He's just a bit crook.

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Speaker 2: So they've just given him a rest. See the headlines

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Speaker 2: and did that shot to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't buy into it.

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Speaker 2: You can tell you how much he loves the club

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Speaker 4: But I see it happening, so hopefully not.

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Speaker 9: You know, if something's going to happen, I'm sure busy

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Speaker 9: let us know. So you know, I suppose there's always

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Speaker 9: love Bierz, and I know he's signed to twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: so sure he's staying.

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Speaker 4: He has addressed to you guys at also.

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Speaker 9: Now, well, I don't feel like he needs to mate.

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Speaker 3: Nah, not at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we break this story last night on All three

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Speaker 4: he's getting what he's worth, and the players they're quick

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's a it's a money thing there, breath.

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Speaker 6: He will be nextually the highest paid winner in the game,

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Speaker 6: six hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 4: Thousand money thing. What is it because it's the only thing.

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Speaker 7: It's not the only thing.

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Speaker 6: No, you look at the players that have left the

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Speaker 7: Well, he wants to play with them. He spent some

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Speaker 4: So you think he wants to leave the player with

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Speaker 7: I think so.

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Speaker 6: I'm serious, But he's think he's the best guy said

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Speaker 6: last to strengthened their team for you guys said last week,

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Speaker 4: Is it not about money?

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Speaker 7: It was the first big He's on six hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars next.

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Speaker 4: Week, twenty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: In next year, goes to six fifty right, what would

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Speaker 4: He wants to play with his mates.

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Speaker 7: I think that's what happened in the camp.

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Speaker 2: I think he got his head turned. I'll get what

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Speaker 2: were you're getting to, Mick. I think he got his

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Speaker 2: Blue Mountains. I don't know who it was. He's obviously best.

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Speaker 2: He's with your own law. Somehow it's come up in

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Speaker 2: West Tigers. I don't know how. I don't know why

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Speaker 4: Can't understand. Well, it's obviously that the free Compson he

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Speaker 2: He's probably going to win four. Of course, it's going

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Speaker 4: I think this is if.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't been started, he left, he left your mates

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Speaker 6: If he's on six hundred and fifty K, how much

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Speaker 6: do you really I heard you guys say that I

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Speaker 6: think he could be a million dollar player. I reckon,

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Speaker 6: get Josh, No one is offering on six fifty next year.

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Speaker 7: That is the benchmark for the best wingers in the game.

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Speaker 4: Four. He could get nine hundred the West hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: They're making the same mistakes that they've made for the last.

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Speaker 4: I haven't They've never bought a Brian to Or for

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Speaker 4: nine hundred thousand dollars to watch him play foot watch.

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Speaker 6: Him play, and I think he's paid as the highest

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Speaker 4: You don't think I would not pay He's the most

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Speaker 4: consistent player I have consistent.

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Speaker 7: He's a very good not knocking Bryan, But.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to explain why I think he's working. He's

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Speaker 5: But what bet if we sell it here like this,

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Speaker 5: he's going to go there to play fullback.

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Speaker 6: You want to you want to compare, You want to

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Speaker 6: signed as a fullback, Nick Katrick signed as they are

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Speaker 6: the guys on signed as a center, right, So that's why.

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Speaker 4: Ryan more consistent than Zach Lomax his career. Every other word,

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Speaker 4: is it a gamble or a risk risk paying over

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Speaker 7: But I'm not going to nine hundred?

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Speaker 4: But is it a gamble?

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Speaker 2: Or what if your West Tiger's there where they're at

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Speaker 2: they need, they need a circuit breaker. They've got your own,

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Speaker 2: they've got to river. But another circle backer, Brian could

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Speaker 2: completely transform that club.

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Speaker 4: I would, and he would.

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Speaker 2: About money, No, I don't think it is all about

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Speaker 2: day right. I think that he's got his head turning camp. Look,

439
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: the key thing is he hasn't been shopped. Nobody shopped him.

440
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: I think it just come out of Blakes in state

441
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: of origin.

442
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: Camp.

443
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: We've seen this happen before they all talk. They're all

444
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: discussed and salaries and whatever else is going might want

445
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: to go.

446
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 6: Where the four people that were his groomsmen at his wedding,

447
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 6: Spencer Lenums, Stephen Kreyer.

448
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 4: Are different different They've all left left lacause if he

449
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 4: doesn't have a close bond that team. You watch him

450
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 4: when they score trys. They all love each other out there.

451
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 4: That's why they are as successful as they are there.

452
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 4: They're they're his best mates. But when you win a premiership,

453
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 4: there's a special bond between all of them. I know it,

454
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 4: and you know it too, Gordy, he's not his mates

455
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 4: with all of them out there.

456
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: We've all seen how close and Jerome Leuia, I just

457
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: get the feeling as they're reading. No, no, I'm not

458
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: saying that's the sole reason, right, but I am saying

459
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: we've all seen how close they are. Jerome was the

460
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: best man at his wedding. I get the feeling as

461
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 2: they must have had some sort of conversation. I think

462
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: it'll all come to a head in the next twenty

463
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: four hours.

464
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: Yea, it happened.

465
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what will happen. Penrith will go he's

466
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 4: an extra fifty year.

467
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 2: Or possibly or they might say, mate, you know you're

468
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: the best paid winger in the comp you're actually staying

469
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 2: for the next two seasons. You're going to honor your

470
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: current deal and then if you want to go to

471
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: the market after that, feel free.

472
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: I can't see Penrith letting him go out all what

473
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: do you guys think is going to happen? Then?

474
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: For me, I think it all gets nutted out in

475
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours. His agent has gone out

476
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: today and met with Matt Cameron, who's the CEO of

477
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: the Panthers group, and I dare say that they'll thrash

478
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: it all out by the end of business tomorrow.

479
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 7: I think they'll get a little bit of an upgrade

480
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 7: and stay.

481
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: That's what.

482
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 6: I don't think it's But I think I don't think

483
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 6: at first, I don't know anyone's going to pay m

484
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 6: nine hundred thousand dollars right, and he's on good money.

485
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 6: He's not an underhafety. He's not an under the underpaid.

486
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 6: We've seen it before when players are four hundred, they

487
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 6: could get eight hundred or whatever the case may be.

488
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: You're this kid, yeah about money, But his manager.

489
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 7: Is I wouldn't say that.

490
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, they clipped the ticket. That's why they agitate.

491
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 7: This is not this has come from.

492
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: Out of.

493
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 5: The markets. Because then and he said to his agent,

494
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 5: you know what, I don't what. I'm really happy here.

495
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: I just signed a four year deal. Please don't say anything.

496
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: I'm going to stay here, Okay.

497
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 4: Benji Marshall has bragg and his silence on the fun

498
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 4: you to. He come out in his departure saying he

499
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 4: understands what the young prop wanted out.

500
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 8: I've had a lot of chats with Stefano through the

501
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 8: whole process, and one thing that has always remained as

502
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 8: how much he loves the club. And now his decision

503
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 8: to leave is about him wanting to explore himself and

504
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 8: find better pastures. We get that, and you know, we

505
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 8: made it pretty clear that if you didn't want to

506
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 8: be here.

507
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 7: That's why Richard came out the other day and said

508
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 7: they want players in for the fight.

509
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: What exactly does that mean?

510
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 6: To expand on that, I have to ask Richie, he

511
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 6: said it, you teased the final has been in for

512
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 6: the Flint though, LUs all is that he's been playing.

513
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, so what you're saying words in my mouth, asking well,

514
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 8: that's probably a question for RICHI.

515
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: Oh, interesting, Okay, let's get Rich on the line.

516
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: Now Rich is in the crocodile right, He's still in

517
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 2: the crocodile roll and the crocodile right.

518
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: Taking from that that Benji doesn't agree with Rich I

519
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: on that call.

520
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: I think Benji was just deflecting and I didn't want.

521
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 6: To answer a hard question with I didn't want to

522
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 6: get either either his boss or the player that he's

523
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 6: got to coach for the next uble. I think he

524
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 6: handled it Tyson. Jackson was asking the good questions there,

525
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 6: but I think he handled it as well as he could.

526
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 7: What's he going to say?

527
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 6: It's a no win situation there for Benji either death right,

528
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 6: your boss or the player that you're trying to keep

529
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 6: some sort of lose Harminar with.

530
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, So it was a tough one for him.

531
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: It has been a tough one. While Benji has defended

532
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: the players who missed the team bus in New Zealand.

533
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: Tell you look and you came out yesterday.

534
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 8: A couple of the younger Blacks missed the bus because

535
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 8: I'm taking care of obviously their teammates.

536
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 7: What's it like obviously to have that morale with the

537
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 7: boys that they're are so committed to.

538
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 8: I guess, yeah, Well, it's a lot's been probably made

539
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 8: of it, and probably a negative light. But those guys

540
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 8: made an honest mistake. They stepped through their alarm, turned

541
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 8: it off, and from our point of view, we're dealing

542
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 8: with it internally.

543
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 7: The truth is the bus driver had to go.

544
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 8: He couldn't wait any longer, and they wouldn't have missed

545
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 8: the bus because they are two minutes after us, and

546
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 8: so we had to leave the bus behind them. They

547
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 8: actually got to the airport before us, so it was

548
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 8: my call for the bus to go. I'm not sticking

549
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 8: up for those guys and saying it's right. But if

550
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 8: they're out on the drink and missing the bus because

551
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 8: those reasons, it's a different story.

552
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: But that's not the case. Face loose, they lose.

553
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: They must fast bit hard.

554
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: Is that that real early flight out like that, you

555
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 5: know the one where you get up about three o'clock

556
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 5: us the time to get on that five or so, they.

557
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: Must have had a fast imag drive I ain't got

558
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: there before.

559
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: Them, or slow bus drive hurry? Now?

560
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: Is this let's let's be serious.

561
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 7: Is this is this is a big deal or not

562
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 7: not for mine, not in isolation.

563
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 6: If we're just looking and breaking it down and looking

564
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 6: at these as three young players eighteen Luke Low Lily

565
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 6: Lucky Galvin and Talon de Silver with the three players

566
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 6: at eighteen nineteen years of age. So it's you know,

567
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 6: they're all in a room together because Luke apparently had

568
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 6: a back concussion. They all spent the night together in

569
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: the one room, three of them, three of them in

570
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 6: the one room.

571
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: You guys, But like one thing, this is, this is

572
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: what's hard to believe young kids these days.

573
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: Isn't there fun attached to them?

574
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 6: Well, they had the phone, apparently one of them hit

575
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 6: the snooze button, had one phone, one of them set

576
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 6: the alant look.

577
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not shooting holes in the yard.

578
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: I fine.

579
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: It sounds like a little bit of a snow White

580
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: and the Seven Dwarfs fairy tale. It's not a crime

581
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: of the Center, it's not a crime of the Central

582
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: only stretch. But I know other clubs. I'm thinking of

583
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm. I'm thinking of Penrith. If you miss

584
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: the bus, well you getting dropped for the following week.

585
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: I know where the Tigers are.

586
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 7: At eighteen or nineteen year olds, right, I.

587
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: Learn your lesson to be taught, you've got to be

588
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 4: taught your less I mean like I can't, I can't

589
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: bind again. I don't think this is a massive deal.

590
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: And they are young, and you know, I don't want

591
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: to it's one hemer. But these things here, mobile phones,

592
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: like we all use them as alarms. There's anyone there's

593
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: three kids or three guys, three footy players need to

594
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: use the one hotel alarm.

595
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 5: From the get up, I think it's and like, this

596
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 5: is nothing. I've caught enough busses. Everybody's on the bus

597
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 5: with five to go, Like that's a thing. Like normally,

598
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 5: if you're in a good culture, everybody's on the bus

599
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: five to ten. Like, mate, you're always early in isolation.

600
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: It's not that much for a big deal. I reckon

601
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: where it feeds into a bigger piction narrative. There's a

602
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: beef on at the Tigers at the moment. We spoke

603
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: about it last week. John Bait has had a crack

604
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: at Benji about the fact that from his point of view,

605
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Benji's treating the senior players like kids, and he's treating

606
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: the young guns like senior players. And this and the punishment.

607
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: The punishment surprise may I thought, I wonder if they

608
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: got five thousand dollars fine too, I don't know whatever

609
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: it'd be two thousand dollars, five thousand dollar fine. The

610
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: punishment was ten minutes of extras on the assault bike

611
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: and on the rower, which to me sounds pretty cruise control.

612
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: I know you mean setting the standards right, putting the

613
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: bar up here because it's been down here for too

614
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: long at the club, So I understand. But we'll see

615
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: how they handle that moving forward. The Newcastle Knights musical chairs.

616
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: Let's have a look at their halves combinations throughout this year. Sorry,

617
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: Hastings gamble, gamble, Cogger Hastings Cogger Hastings gamble, Hastings Cogger, Hastings,

618
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: Price Hastings gamble, Crossland gamble. And we're up to around

619
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: twenty one. I'm dizzy reading this out.

620
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: There's a big gamble then this is this is.

621
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: I mean, we can laugh all we want, but it's

622
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: a serious issue in Newcastle.

623
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: And well, how do you get your continuity right? How

624
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: do you get your teammates knowing how you play? Sometimes

625
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: it can take a while to get that cohesion, you

626
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: know when you've got to work definitely, and just understand

627
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: when you're tied, you're fatigued, especially defensively. You know. It's

628
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: it's strange. And I thought they bought Coga, didn't he

629
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 5: like he opened up? People say that he happened up

630
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: the Grand Final last year. I'm not a half, but

631
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: you know he's played great and they.

632
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Bought Nathan Cleary said that. Nathan Cleary said he unlocked

633
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: me in the Grand Final last year and they specifically

634
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: went out and brought him in. Look, he hasn't played

635
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of nurl this season. When

636
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: you got that much instability breath in the halves, you

637
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: know yourself you can't have musical chairs in key positions. Well,

638
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: that's not going to lend itself to winning games and

639
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 2: playing finals footy. A lot of fans are saying, well,

640
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: does that mean that there should be heat on Adam

641
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: O'Brien or the club when he assigned him last year

642
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: to a three deal. So I think he's trying to

643
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: do the best with what he's got.

644
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: I think we coger. I don't know you too harsh,

645
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: but it's one of these situations where you get a

646
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: player like him at a club like Penrith or even

647
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: Melbourne with a monster or a clearing next to you,

648
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: and you kind of you know, you're turning to a

649
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: economy a little And obviously it's a lot easier with

650
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: those guys inside you. It's a lot easier when you're

651
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: winning games every week. It's a lot easier when you've

652
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: got the forward pack that you've got and you're getting

653
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: quick played the balls and all of a sudden you've

654
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: got time and space. And then other clubs are looking going, well,

655
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: you know what, we can get some value out of him.

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Speaker 4: He's playing at a premier club and he's turning up

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Speaker 4: every week and putting in really good performances. And then

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Speaker 4: Newcastle have gone and paid overs for him because really

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Speaker 4: Coga before he went to Penrith had struggled to find

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Speaker 4: his spot anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Was that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd been at Newcastle before?

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Speaker 2: Is that the bulldogs for a while Over in the UK.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a decent player. But I think where

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Speaker 2: where the Knights are a victim of their own decisions

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Speaker 2: is they've come and brought in a new recruitment manager.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of chopping and changing amongst all

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Speaker 2: key position staff there, different people at different stages have

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Speaker 2: had hold of the recruitment and retention signature pen and

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Speaker 2: so that's why they've got this liquorice all sorts roster

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Speaker 2: that Peter A. Sullivan's now trying to reshape and.

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Speaker 7: They haven't had Kalen for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Klum Ponger, right, he obviously is their attacking spark because

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Speaker 6: Tyson Gamble is obviously the best runner I guess in

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Speaker 6: time and trying to create things off the cuff. The

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Speaker 6: other guys are pretty structured players and without kalm Ponger

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Speaker 6: there's not much bluency there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've realized now that they need more

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Speaker 4: than Kaalon and they've got a lot of work to

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Speaker 4: do in Newcastle as we just could see right there.

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Speaker 4: And just the quick reminder in our All three to

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Speaker 4: sixty will exclusively reveal the contributors, referees and coaches inducted

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Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame next Tuesday and Wednesday from

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Speaker 4: six thirty pm. So stay tuned in time now for

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Speaker 4: for better thanks to n ib Boys.

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Speaker 2: Adam Reynolds this week and Broth of Brisbane. Wrong guys, look,

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Speaker 2: they simply have to win. It might not be enough

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Speaker 2: to get him into the finals, but he's been in

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Speaker 2: the headlines this week. I'm expecting a response.

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Speaker 6: Ben Hunt had a shocker last week for the Dragons,

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Speaker 6: gets to play in Melbourne this week.

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Speaker 7: If there are any chance, he's going to be at

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Speaker 7: his best, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think he'll bounce back to Mick, thank you very much

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Speaker 4: for tonight. I thank you Hoops. Up next, it's a

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Speaker 4: Legends agenda with Jeff Tuv and Benny Als