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Speaker 1: Apogae Production, Welcome back to you another episode of am

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Speaker 1: I of ad Mum podcast. This is a weird one too,

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Speaker 1: because the next school holidays is the big long summer holidays,

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Speaker 1: and that's generally the holiday where parents take some time

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Speaker 1: off work over Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 3: I found that this year in particular, the more people

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Speaker 3: that I spoke to that do have school age kids

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Speaker 3: that were like, I'm just so exhausted, we just needed

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks home.

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Speaker 2: And so then that leads you into term four.

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Speaker 3: Because term four naturally is busy for majority of you

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Speaker 3: know grades, whether it's grade twelve or grade one, it's

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Speaker 3: a busy time. Christmas all the rest comes into play.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of that, you've got birthdays up in that.

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Speaker 1: Ye yeah, And I just as I'm looking at you,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I have done absolutely nothing for Christmas. I've

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Speaker 1: done absolutely nothing for Birthday either.

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Speaker 3: I need to probably bring that up in another podcast

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Speaker 3: because I think I have a feeling I have to

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Speaker 3: address before Christmas Santa issues.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Unless you've got any advice as to how to have

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Speaker 3: that discussion, please send it to us on Instagram. But

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Speaker 3: otherwise I'll give you the wrap. Up of the Santa

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Speaker 3: discussion post having it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wish me luck, good luck? Am I a bad

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Speaker 1: mum for in doing the tough time?

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Speaker 3: Just one one tough time or lots? It like an

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Speaker 3: ongoing saga.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, I'm gonna start this with a positive okay.

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Speaker 1: And this is so it's a wild thing to be

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Speaker 1: saying after we've done this podcast for so many years

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Speaker 1: and our kids were so little. I think Elsie was two,

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Speaker 1: she was.

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Speaker 3: Just three, remember, because I was like, it's not terrible twos,

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Speaker 3: it's those horrible threes. I got through the two's generally okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then the threes hit and it was just like, so.

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Speaker 1: Our four kids were about three, five, and ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: So now navigating teenagers is a whole different Kellorfish. But

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Speaker 1: this is a real milestone. Both of my kids now

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Speaker 1: have jobic.

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Speaker 2: Oh that is so good. That is so good.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about it, like the last conversation, we

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Speaker 3: were just going too bad, it's so sad, you need

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Speaker 2: I'm not paying for a cecent.

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Speaker 1: I got to a point where I was threatening so much.

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Speaker 1: I was like, when you're sixteen, you have phone bills

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Speaker 1: not being paid you be cut off to start paying rent.

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Speaker 1: Like I went all in whatever with the threats. They

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Speaker 1: both have jobs now, and I was like, I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to pay their phone bill because what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see was the effort, you know, the first time that

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Speaker 1: Actually it was a really nice moment when Amelia got

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Speaker 1: paid for the first time and none of us really

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Speaker 1: an alert that money had gone into a bank and

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Speaker 1: she had I've been paid, and she was so excited.

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Speaker 1: And what she said was, which is like, we've been

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Speaker 1: so nice that I've got money in my bank that

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Speaker 1: I've actually made that I haven't had to ask you for.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had to, you know, say please, please please,

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Speaker 1: can I do this? And you say no, I've just

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Speaker 1: got the money in there. I was like, see, that's

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Speaker 1: the feeling. It's the nice thing knowing that your hard

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Speaker 1: work is actually paid off and you've got a job.

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Speaker 1: But it's just the interesting part and this is where

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Speaker 1: and enjoying the tough time was because I've spoken very

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Speaker 1: openly kids in general, I feel like need to do

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Speaker 1: a tough job to start with. They get everything handed

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Speaker 1: food place, wonderful. And Amelia's first shift was just you know, learn, learn,

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Speaker 1: being shown around all that kind of stuff. Second shift,

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Speaker 1: I went, what did you do today? Like, how was it?

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Speaker 1: And she was like, she comes in like she's been

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Speaker 1: at war. She comes in in a little uniform, which

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Speaker 2: A uniform, so so good when.

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Speaker 1: She comes in and then what you have to do?

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Speaker 3: She went, I was on fries, on fries, just one section,

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Speaker 3: just on fries for how long?

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Speaker 1: Three hours?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah, she's still like fries.

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Speaker 1: And then and then she came home and she comes

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Speaker 1: in and then she's gone, yeahs on fries like telling

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Speaker 1: me about it, and I went, you stink, you absolutely stink,

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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh know. And it was just

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Speaker 1: like that when I say enjoying the tough time. It

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Speaker 1: was like, this is resilience, right, this is needed, This

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Speaker 1: goes with it. But it's it was almost like the

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Speaker 1: fact that she's stunk. I was like, this is brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Did she actually smell like fries?

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Speaker 1: Fries? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I wonder if you get to that point, Like I

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Speaker 3: remember my first job was at the cheesecake shop, and

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Speaker 3: I got to the point where I was like, if

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Speaker 3: I have to smell so sweet again, like just that sweet,

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Speaker 3: sweet sweetness, Like I'd go home and I'd literally smell

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Speaker 3: like my hair smell like cheesecake, and because you'd be

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Speaker 3: obviously serving out the front, but not only that, I

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Speaker 3: Pavlovas and things like that. So super sweet. But I

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Speaker 2: Because I ve half the time. How are they going

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Speaker 2: to go cooking burgers with people?

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Speaker 1: No? You know what happens? And this is I honestly

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Speaker 1: because I've got a friend.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to scar me to the point that

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to ever eat it again?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: But I've got a friend who used to work at

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Speaker 1: the same place when she was a kid. So whatever,

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Speaker 1: that was twenty whatever. Yeah, thinking I'm trying to do

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Speaker 2: Twenty younger than we are.

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Speaker 1: And she said at the time it was girls out

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Speaker 1: she doesn't have to make the burgers. Thats the boys

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what else happened? Rachel and I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Help, but smart I had to clean the toilet.

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Speaker 1: No, she had take the bins out, you know, not

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Speaker 1: fun but dressful. Whatever. Was a woman. There was a

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Speaker 1: on the drive through this particular day because they learned

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Speaker 1: it all the woman that went through the drive through,

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Speaker 1: and she was so mad about her order taking too

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Speaker 2: I was is wrong with these people? What did you do?

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Speaker 1: She was like, I just I didn't make eye contacts.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that she comes in and she's like, got fired today?

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Speaker 2: What force sticking up my finger? That's driving off? Who

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is so exciting. Now both of

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Speaker 3: them have got obviously a job, right. Yeah, So we're

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Speaker 3: just waiting on Holly's pay day to drop and then

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Speaker 3: it'll be full steam ahead for the car fund that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so big plan to save lots of cash. So far,

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Speaker 1: Amelia has been paid twice and she owes us money

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So the car fund is going well.

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Speaker 1: Not yeah, okay, I did say, because the rule was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be.

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Speaker 1: Able to do so you're still rewarded, like you still

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Speaker 1: But I said spend half, save half, and the first payday,

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Speaker 1: I said, just spend your first payday because like, that's exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: both working, and you know that.

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Speaker 3: Is a milestone for all of you, everyone in the household.

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Speaker 1: And it's just so funny. You're seeing them come in

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, what a day. I'm so tired. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that Amelia said the other day,

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Speaker 2: Eights three hours? Is that all they work? Three hours

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Speaker 1: I think it's all they're allowed to do.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, twelve hour days on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're still protecting our kid, Oh gosh.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm very proud of them, and I look forward

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Speaker 2: It's a very exciting time that they're coming into.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait until we start doing podcasts on how

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Speaker 3: the driving lessons are going, because they are gonna be

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Speaker 1: I said to the girls, you will definitely be doing

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Speaker 1: at least one, hopefully more than that, driving lessons before

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Speaker 1: you get in my car. Yeah, why everybody else's I said,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the reason why, because i will sit

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, you're like one or two lessons.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like a month worth of lessons with somebody else,

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Speaker 3: because they listen better for somebody else than they do

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Speaker 3: for us. So a month worth of like lessons with

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Speaker 3: of a driving instructor in my head is like an

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Speaker 3: older gentleman who's sitting there and hand loves to drive

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Speaker 3: on the road, and you know, let him do those

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Speaker 3: early stoppy, starty jumpies one and then by the time

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Speaker 3: that they get into your car a month later, I

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Speaker 3: sitting Yeah, it might be a little bit more smooth

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Speaker 3: sailing Geez, they're going to be a good podcast.

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Speaker 2: Actually, what we might do

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Speaker 3: that everyone can listen to