WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 28 August 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.520 Welcome the Late Debate. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.760 It's great to have your company on the Late Debate. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond. Now, 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.480 like me, you've probably seen some weird things on aircraft. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.919 But a little later we'll talk about a international passenger 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.599 who's copped an absolute pasting for using her flight to 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.160 make dough for bread. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:24.280 Did it all while. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.639 She was in the air will show you that a 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.240 little later. Plus, when we look at the papers, an 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.559 incredible story tomorrow detailing how Northern Territory police were too 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.160 busy to conduct a welfare check on a woman who 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.640 was allegedly murdered just nine hours after that welfare check 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.080 was supposed to have taken place. And on the front 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.920 page of Tomorrow's Canberra Times, an incredible story about bureaucrats 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.879 who assured they're superiors that a project was going to 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.200 come in under budget. Three months later it came in 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:59.040 overbudget by forty million dollars, as Maxwell Smart would say, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.360 missed it by that much. But first you have to 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.600 wonder if any organizations in this country have as finely 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:12.920 tuned moral conscience as our football codes. Take the NRL, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:18.720 for instance, they have special games honoring ANZACs, honoring Indigenous people, 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.720 honoring women until it all went wrong. They had a 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.600 special round honoring the LGBTQ community. They've even got a 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.440 round honoring members. It's like the NRL spend more time 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:35.480 honoring and celebrating and respecting various niche groups than actually 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:40.880 playing football. Or is something else going on here? You've 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.840 got to understand that every time the NRL virtue signal, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.600 they need a brand new jumper in which to do so, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.200 and of course it's available at the merchandise stand. Take 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.880 Anthony Albanese's much loved Sydney Rabbitdoz for instance. This year 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.840 they've played six themed rounds which have required six brand 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.920 newly designed jumpers, all of which you can purchase at 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.640 the merchandise stand for about one hundred and seventy dollars each. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.480 That means if you were to purchase one of every 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.280 jumper that team alone has worn this year, you'd be 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.600 up for just over one thousand dollars. That's just for you, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.440 let alone your kids. This year, NRL clubs have a 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.160 combined seventy seven different jerseys that they've worn over one 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.320 hundred and eighty eight games of football. That's the equivalent 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:34.200 of a new jersey for each club every five games. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.960 And so I'm starting to wonder Caleabin Liz, whether it 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.280 goes like this The NRL clubs think what can we 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.800 do to honor and celebrate and promote various minority groups? 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.480 Who could we honor? Oh, by the way, we'll need 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.360 a jumper to do that, or does it take place 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.360 the other way? And they think we need a new 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.320 jumper because you know, we need people to keep the 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.400 cash registers chugging along, so we need a new jumper. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.679 Could we honor? Now that much sound cynical, but do 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.600 you remember the Pride round back in twenty twenty two 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.960 where Manly got their players to wear a Pride jersey. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.760 Seven Islander players famously decided not to play. But I 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.680 remember at the time it was revealed the idea for 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.400 that Pride round did not come from the club. It 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.360 came from their jumper sponsor, who had pitched the idea 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.959 of let's do a round on LGBTQ people. They'd pitched 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.560 that idea not just to Manly but to other football 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.880 clubs as well. Now, Manly bit, but the idea was 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.640 not a group of benevolent rugby league officionados sitting around 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.600 thinking what could our game do for social cohesion and 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.280 to better the community. It was a jumper sponsor thinking 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.800 how can we sell more jumpers to rugby league fans. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.400 Well, it just goes to prove that the virtue signaling 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.800 is a load of crap. I mean, the NRL, the AFL, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.760 they're big business by the way. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.680 They don't pay tax. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.480 On the money they own because you know, they're deemed 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.080 to be a social goods not for profits sort of organization, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.240 but they're big business, right, and so when they have 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.280 these things pride around and indigenous round whatever, they cloak 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.360 it in the idea of this is a lovely thing 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.000 that we're doing for the community. We're honoring people where 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.279 we're all lovely over here, it's all about making money. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.680 It's all about business, because in general, a business does 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.320 not make a decision that it does not think is 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.960 going to be beneficial for itself. And so every time 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.680 you see a sporting code or a big business like Quantas, 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.560 even though they've now said they're not going to get 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.880 so involved in political issues unless they have a bard 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.800 approval to do so, we know under Alan Joyce over there. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.920 They were just sort of running around endorsing everything they 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.880 could possibly find that. They don't normally do something unless 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.560 they think they can make a buck out of it, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.720 or it's going to be good for shareholders, or it's 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.400 going to be good for the bottom line. The NRL, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.480 the AFL, big business. They don't give a hoot about you. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.000 They don't give a hoot about gay people. They don't 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.880 really give a hoot about Indigenous people. Hell, they don't 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.839 even give a hoot about the members. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.600 Look at how some of. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.880 The teams perform every year, and you've got to wonder 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.200 how much they really care about the members. It's all 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.720 about extracting as much money as possible from you. And 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.120 I think the kids is the real number the issue here, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.920 because you know, it's a bit like little Johnny goes 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.800 to school and his schoolmates have got the latest toys. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.880 So little Johnny comes home and he has to have 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.920 the same toys all his schoolmates otherwise. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:27.600 He feels left out. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.640 And if you're a parent and you go along and 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.360 all the other kids are wearing the brand new jersey 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.160 and they design it's also the greatest scam ever because 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.760 they have a different one every year, So like Indigenous 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.919 Round for instance, right, there's a new. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.760 Design every year, so you're locked in. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.120 You've got to keep buying these things. It really has 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.560 nothing to do with politics. It's all about revenue raising, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.400 which makes it so ridiculous that people keep buying into 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.080 this stuff and they oh, it's so important that the 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.320 NRL and the AFL has Indigenous Round and Pride Round. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.120 They don't care. They've got money out of you. They're happy. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.000 They're laughing all the way to the bank, thinking, how 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:05.760 stupid are you? 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.559 We pulled the wall over your eyes. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.440 You think it's all about lovely, lovely social issues. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:11.760 Nothing. Nothing. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.160 I'm just glad that the NRL have capped it at 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.920 five Jerseys. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.560 Well at least they've capted it. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.040 Otherwise obviously these guys would keep going. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.799 But I just say, let the market decide. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.280 If people don't want the new virtue signaling Jersey, they 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.719 won't buy it, and if they do want it, they 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.480 will buy it. And obviously you keep buying them because 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:35.960 they keep doing it. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.119 They make a lot of money off their merch. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.599 Do you own a GWS jumper? 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:40.120 Nah? 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.159 You don't even own one. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.520 Nah, But I do own a scaff got it off 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.479 Facebook marketplace, so they didn't make a. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:46.479 Sunis out of me. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.880 To the States now, where Trump has been slapped with 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:56.679 yet another indictment regarding the twenty twenty election, that's subversion case. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.159 They are not done with him yet. You will recall 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.440 the original indictment was scuffered by the Supreme Court ruling 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:11.200 that Trump enjoyed some presidential immunity from criminal prosecution. But 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.400 Special Counsel Jack Smith is not done with him yet 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.000 because you may also recall that the Supreme Court decided 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:24.080 that there was three different areas of immunity, absolute immunity 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:30.720 for acts that the president has done with his constitutional authority, immunity, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.680 presumed immunity with regard to official acts, and then of 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:40.320 course unofficial acts zero immunity. So the Special Council has gone, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.560 hang on a minute, we can still get him on 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.640 a few of these allegations. Special Counsel Jack Smith says 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.600 the superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.840 jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.680 reflects the government's effort to respect and implement the Supreme 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.640 Court's holdings and remand instructions. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.440 What He's basically saying, is there. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:09.280 This new version of the indictment includes all of the 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.680 allegations from the last indictment, minus a few that they 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.880 know would be considered completely covered off on by the 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.560 fact that Trump was once the president. Trump has, of 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.760 course responded in a very Trumpian way. He says, in 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.280 an effort to rest you a dead witch hunt in Washington, DC. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.839 In an act of desperation and in. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.120 Order to save face, the illegally appointed Special Council, deranged 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.040 Jack Smith has brought a ridiculous new indictment against me, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.200 which has all the problems of the old indictment and 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:52.160 should be dismissed immediately. In Trumpian caps, he loves the caps. Now, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.560 of course, they've done this just ten days out to 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.360 the Justice Department's sixty day rule, which means you can't 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:04.200 bring and he charges against a presidential candidate more than 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.200 sixty days out to an election. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.920 So they've chosen their timing. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.280 They've made it across the line, and experts are saying 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:18.080 this prosecution will go long into after the election. Of course, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.120 if Trump makes it to the White House, he'll just 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.600 throw it out because he will then have the power 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.400 to do so, but I just can't believe how desperate 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:33.120 they are. I really can't clinging on to the few 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:38.160 allegations that may not fall under the scuppering that the 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.360 Supreme Court pulls in this case, and they're going again. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.600 I can't believe that they're continuing to bother here because 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.040 every time you've had one of these cases, it's generally 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.280 been a boon for Donald Trump because it just gives him, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.360 as we've said so many times, the opportunity to say 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.680 to people, look, it's not me they're coming for it's you. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.320 The idea here is that I stand between them and you, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.040 so they're coming for me, so they can get to you. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.160 And we know what the poles are looking like at 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.040 the moment. Kamala Harris is going through something of a 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.440 honeymoon period since she replaced Joe Biden because she's got 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.000 the anyone but Biden advantage. They've just had the DNC, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.800 which gives her a little more wind behind her. And 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.760 Trump actually has a threat now in the Democrat someone 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.640 who could potentially beat him at the pole. So you 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.880 would think at this moment in time, these Democrat justices 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.920 and prosecutors, etc. Would maybe just take a step back 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.680 and go Okay, every time we've tried to do this 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.600 over the last year, it hasn't worked. It hasn't landed 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.880 a blow on him, it hasn't hurt him whatsoever, if anything, 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.160 has helped him. And right now, when he's actually looking 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.400 like he might be receding in the polls, why don't 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.040 we just step back for a moment and let him 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.960 hang himself instead of saying, look, we know you're drowning 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.640 a little bit, buddy, here's the life boy, the rope to. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.439 Just drag yourself in a little bit. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.880 Like they have handed him the advantage that he needs 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:07.640 right now. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.480 I don't know why they're bothering. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.920 Well, as you say, After the DNC, Kamala Harris and 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.720 the Democrats have had all the momentum. They've still got it, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.720 They've got all the press, and now they've made Trump 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.720 headlines all over again. On top of that, they spent 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.680 the whole of the DNC talking about how they would 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.600 unite the country and they were the Party of Joy, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.880 and now they're using the justice system to go after Trump. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:30.040 Now. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.679 Of course, Donald Trump is a very clever politician. Whatever 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.240 you think about him, he's not dumb and so he's 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.640 linked this judicial process with the fact that the Biden 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.360 administration is not only going after him in court, but 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.360 there was also that little matter of failing to provide 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.920 him with enough Secret Service security agents to keep him 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.720 safe from an assassination. Here he is talking to doctor Phil. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.840 You know, when this happened, people would ask, who's Walter 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.840 is it? I think, to a certain extent, it's Biden's 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:05.959 and Harris's fault, and I'm the opponent. Look, they were 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:11.680 weaponizing government against me. They brought in the whole DOJ 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.000 to try and get me. They weren't too interested in 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.959 my health and safety. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.920 I would be if I were in. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.880 Their position, but they weren't very interested. But they were 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.640 always making it. From what I understood, and I could 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.640 feel it. They were making it very difficult to have 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.840 proper staffing in terms of Secret Service. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.040 So there you go, Trump grabbing the momentum all over 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.600 again thanks to the Democrats. But it shows how desperate 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.120 the Democrats are Kada that they would rather talk about 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.559 Trump than anything else, i e. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.559 Policy, which is the idea in general. I mean, we 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.679 showed that clip the other art of Quentin Tarantino in them. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.760 It wasn't mincing his words, telling Kamala Harris to don't 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.440 Epan do any ef and interviews because you're just going 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.679 to buger it up. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.040 Bugger was not the word he used. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.160 The idea, much like they did with Joe Biden in 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.280 twenty twenty, is to keep her in the bunker so 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.040 that you're not exposed to any of the policy. And 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.080 it's all on the feeling and the fact that she's 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.719 not Trump and she's not Barden. But if I may 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.679 venture into conspiracy theory territory here or most we do 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.120 off on you, A part of me wonders whether the 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.720 whole point of this beyond the you know, let's get 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.560 Trump for the opportunity to lock him up, because we 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.560 know they'd love to lock him up. But part of 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.720 me wonders whether going with the water down case is 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.760 just to put the idea of January six back on 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.880 people's minds, because they know that if Trump loses the 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:46.120 election in November, you'll probably have a repeat of January 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.439 six last time around. There will be so much unrest 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.640 and questioning and concern about. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:53.680 The validity of the election. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.920 So what they're actually setting up here is almost goading 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.120 people if Trump loses, to go and do it all 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.240 over again, because they're saying, we've got a case on 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.840 the books here that he's sort of proving that Trump 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.319 made it all up last time, so we've got cause 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.880 to encourage you to go and do it again. So 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.480 we've got twice as much AMO to get Trump points. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.040 I'd say that's exactly why the Dems have gone again, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.040 because you're quite right in saying it galvanizes the Republican 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.280 base and all the Trumpers, but it also galvanizes the 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.880 Democrats base to keep him in the headlines. As I mean, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.640 when I watched the DNC last week, that mind numming. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.080 It was the most low IQ thing I've ever seen 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.120 in my entire life. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.080 But the amount of. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.800 Times they were talking about him convicted felon, convicted felon. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.520 And people love it. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.200 They're absolutely gobbling up this narrative about Trump that actually 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.200 he does be along behind bars and now we've got 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.680 the DOJ still not letting him off the hook. This 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.320 man should never make it into the White House. And 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.720 because the poles are so tight at the moment, they're 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.680 probably not so much worried about a boost in the 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.080 polls for Trump should he be seen to be prosecuted. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.400 And this is just another. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.920 Witch hunt that has worked on whoever it's going to 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.760 work on at this point. And now the Dems are 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.640 going for the jugular again, playing up to the narrative 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.280 that they have sewed so thoroughly over all this time, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.840 that they have been employing lawfair Again. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.280 That's the reductive message of the Democrats. Right, Kamala Harris 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.240 is promoting herself, not as the vice president, to accomplish 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.840 all these things. She's gone right back in history to 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.560 when she used to be a prosecutor going after Felon. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.400 So that is the contest. It's not a contest of 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.360 equal political identities. By the way, listening to you do 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.640 that conspiracy theory, I'm sitting here listening, it's like watching 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:41.440 Liz with a beard. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.880 That's actually a really scary thought I would not want 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:46.240 to see. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.200 Is what you just called a conspiracy theory. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:50.440 I just called playing. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.440 So anyway, we'll get you there. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.400 Well, you know you're not quite old enough to be 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.440 menopausaled is. But please please don't, please don't ever grow 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.800 a bee. We don't want to cover up that beautiful. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.840 Ways you haven't just defended how many more than menopausal 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.720 ladies at home you'll be hearing from Bola. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.080 You can write in your complaints, but I'm sure you 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.040 all agree Liz should not grow a viear. But you know, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.040 in this modern world, she's allowed to do whatever she wants. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.600 I think maybe Liz identifies as a man, and tomorrow 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.920 we'll have conscience here on this panel. Now, let's go 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.400 to one of my favorite segments on this program, the 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.320 Council round Up, and hell do we have some good 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.520 ones for you tonight. Let's start here in Sydney with 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.640 the North Sydney Council now Sydney or New South Wales 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.520 more broadly, next month will have its council elections, where 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.920 of course we know that many Liberal candidates won't be 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.920 standing because the Liberal Party didn't bother to actually nominate 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.800 one hundred and forty or so of their candidates. But 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.360 it means that councils are now going through their last 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.600 meetings of this term. And North Sydney Council last night 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.480 had its last meeting for this term. And Jilly Gibson, 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.640 who was once the mayor of North Seatan, has been 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.760 a servant counselor for twenty five years gave her valedictory speech. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.040 So she got up and said a few nice words 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.080 and received some flowers, etc. And then one of her 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.240 fellow counselors, James Spenceley, decided that, well, maybe in her 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.000 honor we should name. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.320 A plaza after her. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.119 The new Burton Street plaza in Kiribilly has just been opened, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.960 and he said, why do we just think nice for 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.119 miss Gibson and name it after her twenty five. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.320 Years of service. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.560 She was happy to accept it, but then we found 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.840 out why she'd been a counselor for twenty five years. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.240 She'd stuck it out all that time in order to 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.359 get that plaza. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.200 And we know that because when she didn't get it, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.080 by god, did she wrick have it Upon the council. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.800 The Mayor, Zoe Baker, called a division on the motion 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.280 and it was voted down. And instead of just walking 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.240 out and saying Sia Narah, thanks for the twenty five years, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.000 Miss Gibson responded by saying. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.480 What an in actually yielded? She said, what an ending? 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:03.320 Did you hear? 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:03.520 That? 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.520 They just voted down Council Expensively's amendment to name a 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:08.760 little plaza after me? 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.120 They can't find it in their hearts. No heart, no heart. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.560 She had to repeat it twice. She then went after 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.240 the mayor, Miss Baker. She said, you can warn me 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.440 all you like, Mayor. The mayor clearly has repudiated her 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.520 for shouting so much that was mean. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:26.960 This has been the meanest counsel ever. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.440 I'm off you are so mean, You are so mean, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.240 You are so mean A plaza your mom. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.119 She's talking to the mayor. Your mom was mayor for 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.080 a year and got a building named after her. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.520 Now the mayor's mother, Carol Baker was indeed mayor at 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.320 one point, and the Carol Baker building in the Council 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.159 Chambers is named after her. But she was the first 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.080 female mayor of North Sydney, so she got something named 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.480 after her. But we finally found out on the way 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.359 out why Miss Gibson had been there for twenty five years, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.600 and it was to get that lit plaza. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.440 G did that sting on the way out. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.040 I'm glad they're spending our rate Kay's money to have 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:06.520 squabbles like this at their. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.160 Last legacy, Deny. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.520 The hilarious thing about that story is that during her 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.640 valedictory speech, Miss Gibson had described council as a preschool 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:15.600 for bullies. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.920 Well point made you will a solid member for twenty 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:20.639 five years. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:21.199 A lady. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.840 I got to say, though, as bad as that story is, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.919 I've got worse for you. Forget about the North Sydney Council. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.800 What about just the Sydney Council with Clover Moore. Now, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.400 Clovermore has been there a long time as the Mayor 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.840 of Sydney and she's been campaigning hard for a slice 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.520 of the pristine eighteen hole More Park golf course to 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.600 be carved off as a park for local residents. Now, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.000 no one really wants this because it's a beautiful golf course. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.560 Even Hollywood stars like Mark Wahlberg, even they think it 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:51.719 should be left as it is. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.520 I know I'm not a citizen of Australia, but I 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.600 am pleading to you, everybody, New South Wales, to save 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.520 More Park Golf Club. It's been here for over one 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.919 hundred years and it's been giving people hundreds and hundreds 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.600 of years of pleasure and joy and just people being 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.480 able to come out, get a nice healthy walk, spend 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.840 quality time together with family and friends, to meet new friends. Please, 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.840 I've seen lots and lots of parks. I haven't seen 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.720 too many lovely public golf courses like this and have 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:25.080 access for everybody. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.400 Please save More Park Golf Club. Now I ignore Hollywood 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.760 stars and ignore local golfers. Clover Or, the mayor of Sydney, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.679 she wants a significant section hived off as a park 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.840 for local residents and Chrismin's, the new South Wales Premier, 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.679 has finally agreed, saying that this park and we've got 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.480 an image of the park that will put up for you. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.760 It's going to be an enormous benefit for local residents. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.800 It's going to have children's playgrounds, running paths, eskate park, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.480 outdoor fitness facilities, open meadows, walking tracks. Who wouldn't want 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.320 that right near where they live? Well, as it turns out, 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:04.679 Clovermore has two properties within walking distance of where this 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.719 park will be located. Councilor Evonne Weldon, who is running 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.959 for mayor at the next election against Clovermore, said, I 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.080 think it needs to be acknowledged and people need to 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.280 be made aware of the truth of what is happening here. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.800 And the truth is that Clovermore and her husband own 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.840 a property just five hundred meters from where that park 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.679 will be established, and another property only four hundred meters 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.919 from the park. Now, when The Daily Telegraph asked the 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.280 Sydney Lord Mayor about these properties and why she'd never 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.000 told anybody about them, she said she didn't need to 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.159 acknowledge her ownership of these properties when dealing with proposals 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.280 for the park because and I quote it wasn't required 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.600 by the Sydney Council Code of Conduct. That's a pretty 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.440 low bar I would have thought for transparency and integrity 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.240 when you say, well no according to cod of Conduct, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:57.520 we don't have to say. 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:02.320 After twenty years as mayor, it is time to see 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.320 the back of this woman. Come on, Sydney, pull it 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.560 off at the next election. Also, I do love how 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:12.280 we bash celebrity endorsements day and night. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.480 But then Mark Walber. 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:18.359 The golf course and we're all like, everyone listened to him. 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.280 He's an out of towner. But what a legend. 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.639 It reminds me of the story of Russ Hins. And 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:29.280 you you would remember, having lived in Queensland the bad 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.000 old days of the Joe Bilky Peterson government. He was 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:36.960 the Transport Minister there and he bought a pub and 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.840 he had the highway diverted to go past the pub 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.840 he had bought so that people would come in and 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:45.120 buy beer from him. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.600 He can't get a plaza named after you, might as 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.800 well have a highway diverted past your store. 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.199 Don't give her ideas to Hornsby Counsel. Now we're a 0:22:55.240 --> 0:23:00.120 restaurant on the owner his restaurant's called the Smoke Shata 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:04.199 is trying to save his smoker. The whole idea of 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:10.520 his restaurant is brisket burgers, big juicy chunks of meat. 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.399 But the council has received complaints about the smells. 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:15.400 Who doesn't like. 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.840 The smell of cooking meat? 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.040 Some karens in Hornsby apparently, and they've told him he 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.120 has to get rid of his smoker or else, which 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.920 of course means the end of the entire concept of 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:33.479 his restaurant. Restaurant owner Mehdi Madove says, they're saying, if 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.919 we don't remove the smoker, it's a criminal offense and 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.480 they can take me to court. And it's all because 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.400 we had one person complaining about the smoke and food smells. 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.560 I've spent thousands of dollars trying to address the council's 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:52.280 concerns including hiring a town planner, commissioning four thousand dollars 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.440 for air quality reports, three thousand dollars for an acoustic report, 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.119 another three thousand dollars for surveys, four thousand dollars a 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:04.080 traffic engineers. I have put everything into the business, and 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:09.200 the council should be helping small business, not hindering us 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:14.480 for crying out loud hornsby counsel. What are you thinking. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.400 It's just more of the same week in and week out, 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.159 these councils not actually doing their job and having to 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.440 be told by the rate payers what their job is, 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:25.040 i e. 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.440 Helping small business. 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.919 I was actually getting hungry as you were describing the 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.919 wares of the smoke shack. What's the bet that the 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.600 person who complained is a. 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.320 Vegan exactly exactly, for Heaven's sake, who doesn't like, as 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.720 you said, Liz, the smell of the meat being cooked 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:42.760 on the barbecue. 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.080 I'm actually I'm near it. 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.160 I'm thinking of moving to Mount Cola so i can. 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.000 I'm going to find whoever it is who's complained and say, look, 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:51.880 what do you want for your house? Get the hell 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.680 out of there, because I can't think of anything better 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:54.440 than living. 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.119 There is the irony, though, Do you reckon if you 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.840 complained about I don't know, the stench coming from a 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.000 sewerage works, the council would be straight on it dealing 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.199 with that. Or do you reckon you'd hear crickets, but 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.800 you complain about some guy's barbecue. He's trying to eke 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.240 out a living. The council can't shut him down fast. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.560 And all the people with yapping dogs next door that 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.920 they've been complaining about for years and nothing have been 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:15.560 done about it. 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.040 And they're like, what the hell you? All I had 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:17.760 to do is get. 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.240 A smoker going and then the council would come and 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.600 visit me. But look, we've gone through all the bad 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.800 things that Australian councils have done this week. 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.800 But maybe this will make you feel a little bit 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.159 better because. 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.520 A council over in the UK, the Norfolk County Council, 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.360 has come up with an ingenious plan to save the planet. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.040 They're going to. 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.360 Turn off all the street lights. No I'm not joking. 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.280 They have decided they're going to turn off a thousand 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.800 lights across the council at night. Now, street lights are 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.560 generally there for I don't know safety, But who cares 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.840 about safety? We've had a planet to save here, and 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.760 they reckon they're going to save two hundred thousand quit 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.160 a year and cut carbon emissions by seventy six tons 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:01.400 six duns. 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.479 Can you believe it? 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.480 And one of the places where they're going to turn 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.800 off these street lights is a particularly dangerous stretch of 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.840 road were in the last six months alone they. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:15.760 Have had major crashes at night. So who cares about safety? 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.800 Who cares about women walking home at night who want 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.760 some lights so they feel safe? Who cares about people 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.560 being safe on the road here? People are dispensable. We 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.679 need to save the planet. I mean, of all the 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:33.280 things we expect councils to do right, roads rates, rubbish, 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.639 fill in the potholes. We know they can't do that 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.840 unless apparently someone goes along and spray paints a penis 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.840 over the top of it. We've seen cases of that 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.600 and the council acts very fast, not giving you ideas. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.680 But you know, if it just magically appeared on the road, 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.760 who knows where that came from. But you now have 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.840 councils and this is not the only one. Apparently in 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.760 the UK, and you can imagine if it's starting to 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.640 happen in the UK, it will start to happen here. 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.280 You know, turning the lights on a basic thing, but 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.640 you will now have counsel saying no, to save the planet, 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.320 we're not going to turn the lights on for safety ATNA. 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.080 So the part I missed in your introduction was how 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.919 much the global temperature will decrease because of this? 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:15.719 Like five three is apparent? 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:16.359 Five degrees? 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:17.200 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.280 And the sea levels, oh, the sea levels just planmmet mate, 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.440 We're going to have to the island. It's going to 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.480 create so much more room for us all to live on. 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.280 But of course there won't be anyone left to live 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.320 on the room because they will have all crashed their 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:30.160 cars into each other. 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:30.880 And unto all the lights. 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.080 And maybe on that point, maybe they're smarter than we're 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.120 giving them credit for. So they'll save seventy six tons 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:40.320 of carbon misions by turning out the lights. Then people 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.840 who die in head on collisions, think about it. They 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.439 won't need food, they won't need transfer. Yeah, that's a 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.560 whole lot more emissions that will be saved. Once you 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:52.280 factor in cremation, that will probably increase. I mean, this 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.640 is outrageous. And then what they'll do once this move 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.560 starts to create traffic accidents, as they'll say, oh, this 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.000 is not good, we're having too many accidents. So you reckon, 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.480 they'll turn the lights back on. Or do you reckon, 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.880 They'll lower the speed limit. And so no, no, we need 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:09.760 to turn this eighty zone into a forty home scooters. 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.159 I just can't believe norfolks that are council of this 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.160 s far behind the times because so many of our 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.080 lighting street lighting is using. 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.800 The solar panels. 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.040 Now I've seen that. 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:27.199 So just get some CCP solar panels, whack them on 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.360 your street lights, and then you can have safety and 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.240 virtue signaling together. 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.320 Let's go. Let's stay in the UK actually and talk 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:43.720 about eminent biologist Richard Dawkins. He is proposing that perhaps 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.440 the incredible rise in mental illness we're seeing across the 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:52.840 western world is due to the astonishing rate of technical change. Now, 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.880 before we hear what he's got to say, I've got 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.320 to point out the irony. This is a man who's 0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.080 devoted his entire professional life to I convince us all 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.280 that life has absolutely no existential purpose or meaning now 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.400 he's worried about mental health anyway, Here he. 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.920 Is, it is changing more rapidly, and many people do 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.360 worry that the pace of change is such that we 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.520 are no longer well adapted to live in it. And 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.880 much of the mental illness that afflicts people maybe because 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:29.000 we are in a constantly changing, unpredictable environment in a 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.600 way that our ancestors were not. So that is a worry. Actually, 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.600 I think it's amazing how resilient we are. I mean, 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.280 we do seek to most of us managed to cok 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.480 pretty well with the astonishing rate of change. 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.680 Yeah, the mental health problem, it's got to be the Internet. 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.160 This is a guy who wrote a book called The 0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.440 God Delusion, calling anyone who believes in God a sky 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.800 fairy and a simpleton. He's basically gone all around the 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.080 world telling people we came from nothing, We're going to 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.640 end up as nothing, and therefore life is worth nothing. 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.640 And now he's banging on about mental illnes and wondering 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.960 what's gone wrong. More interesting than his comments on social 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.600 media and the Internet are his comments back in April 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.480 where he said, you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols. 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.440 I feel at home in the Christian ethos. I feel 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.160 like we're a Christian country in that sense. Now, to 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.520 be sure, he's saying, I'm not a Christian, but I 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.479 do like the Christian trappings. He reminds me of a 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.560 man who's sitting on a branch, busy sowing it or 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.120 from the trunk, and then all of a sudden he 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.600 realizes just how far he's about to fall, and suddenly thinks, oh, 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.800 maybe this wasn't such a smart idea after all. I 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.680 think we've got a problem with technology. But the problem 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.040 is not the technology. The technology simply magnifies or exacerbates 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.560 what's already in the culture. And when you've had people 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.959 like Richard Dawkins traveling the world telling everybody there's no purpose. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.440 People can put up with a lot of affliction, but 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.880 they can't live with no purpose and no meaning. Even 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.720 Dawkins himself saying, well, now I don't believe in Christianity, 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.840 but I'm going to adopt it anyway, because I can't 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.320 bear the thought it's all for. When you travel the 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.720 world preaching that message, of course, you're going to have 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.080 people with mental health challenges, and technology is just going 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.200 to exacerbate that. It's not the cause, it's the magnifier. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.440 I think I've got to disagree with you there, because 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.760 what we see technology doing is often very much driving 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.560 the changes in the culture. It's not just a reflection 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.920 of the culture. When you think of the way that 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.040 pornography has changed the relationship between men and women even 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:33.480 from a very young age. Now the most common age 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.400 of introduction to pornography here in Australia is just. 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:37.480 Eight years old. 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.160 That is driving a massive cultural change. Where we talk 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:45.320 about introductions to AI and that taking over different jobs, 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.720 that is driving major cultural change. When we talk about 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.920 social media and the way it does indeed drive a 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.840 lot of social change, whether that's the way people dress 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.000 nowadays or who they want to be because the influences 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.720 are so cool. So got to disagree with you on 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.920 that point. But all the stats bear him out with 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:10.080 regard to him making a direct connection between depression anxiety. 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:11.640 People's mental health has. 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:15.080 Never been this poor throughout history, and there is no 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.520 way that we can say, oh, it's got nothing to 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.760 do with the fact that we've got these computers in 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.520 our pockets twenty four seven that we all spend hours 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.760 on every single day. We've got this twenty four hour 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.120 news cycle that is updated every five seconds. I often 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:36.640 find myself envying people from decades past, when in order 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.360 to feel informed about what was happening in the world 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.560 around you, you just had a paper, had a paper, 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.920 a daily paper, and if you read that, that was great. 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.800 You sent and received letters. There was no instant requirement 0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.840 for you to respond to every text as you got it, every. 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:53.880 Email as you got it. 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.800 This has changed us in ways that will never ever 0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.040 be able to fully fathom. 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.520 And essentially arguing because he's an evolutionary biologist, is that 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.600 we as a species, particularly our brains, has not evolved 0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.960 at the same rate as the technology has evolved, and 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.440 we're not able to cope with the technology technology. Sorry, 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.040 that's in front of us. And the example you use 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.800 about responding to text messages and whatever there is such 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.440 a great example because when I was away last week, 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.200 I was up for a few nights in Cape Tribulation 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:27.240 and I had no phone signal up there. Really lovely 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.800 because no one could contact me. I was divorced from 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.880 the rest of the world for a little while, sitting 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.360 in the rainforest and on the beach drinking beers. That 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.040 was fantastic, But of course there's an expectation now, whereas 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.920 once upon a time you received a letter. 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:43.840 You wrote back. 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.280 You know, the letter might get there in a few 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.360 days or whatever. You've got a telegram or whatever it 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.440 might be. If someone seems you a text, they're expecting 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.520 you to respond within five minutes. 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.160 So the slowness of life has. 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.360 Been taken away from us and it makes it so 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.280 much more difficult to cope with the pace of life. 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.040 And you add on top of that the jobs that 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.160 will lose through things like AI. If you're unemployed, your 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.680 mental health ain't all that good. I think it's true 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:11.400 that perhaps technology can go too far, and we're starting 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:12.480 to see that born out. 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.880 I don't know about your example from being up in 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.040 fun North Queens and I reckon not having access to 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.560 my phone that would do my mental health incredible that 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:21.279 you know. 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:22.280 You have a problem. 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.800 That the outcry when they introduce Wi Fi on plane, 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.480 I know most people were like, this was guaranteed my 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.640 own break where I had the ultimate excuse. Sorry, I'm 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.560 on an airplane for five hours just to disconnect and 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:38.960 no one could get at me. 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.480 And then the airlines are like. 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.920 We've got wi Fi, congratulations everyone. The vast majority of people, 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:50.040 to my understanding anyway, we're like, no, don't do it 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:50.560 to us. 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.920 Oh I was not one of those people. Before we 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.800 go to an ad break news this evening that the 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.960 Muslim Votes Matter advocacy group now it's not a political part, 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.960 but they are going to promote independent candidates who stand 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.080 as Muslims at the federal election. They will launch their 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:12.160 national campaign in Melbourne on Sunday. Group spokesperson says there 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.160 are more than twenty seats where Muslims could have the 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.239 deciding vote at the federal election. Told the media, in 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.480 the last twenty five years, no federal government has been 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.840 elected by more than a fifteen seat margin. This positions 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:29.720 us strategically to support candidates who prioritize our issues. Interesting, 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.239 he says, issues plural because there's really only one that 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.600 they've ever talked about, and that's Gaza and challenge those 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:41.440 who neglect our community. Now, speakers at the campaign launch 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.440 on Sunday are going to talk about Gaza as the issue, 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.399 and they're flying in people from the UK to talk 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.680 about how Muslim votes in the UK managed to win 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.000 numbers of seats over there, so that will be an 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.560 interesting campaign launch and one that I know Anthony Albanezi 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.040 will be what closely. 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.080 Certainly, I think the only problem is you can bust 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.320 people in from the UK to talk about how successful 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.160 it was over there, but they have first passed the 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.200 post voting, so you know you can get someone elected 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.239 on thirty percent of the vote. The problem that they 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.040 will run into is that they may well get thirty 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.120 percent of the vote, but then you've got to talk 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.759 about the preferences and where they go from there, and 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.359 I suspect in most cases they'll just flow through back 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.600 to labor anyway, and the Labour people like Tony Burke 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.840 and whatever that have been touted as being under attacked 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.600 by this will eventually get re elected. 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.840 But you know they are going to flex their muscles. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.080 And again it goes back to the question of when 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.600 you have people coming out to a country from a 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.920 different culture and they all go into one place and 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.920 they don't mix amongst the rest of us, create enclaves, 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.760 and then you end up with movements like this essentially 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.760 saying well, we want our own religious or ethnic power 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:55.120 in this country. Sorry, you came to Australia, how about 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:56.239 you try being Australian. 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.279 Well, we're going to go to a break. When we 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.160 come back, we'll have what the papers are going with tomorrow, 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.960 including a really sad story from the Northern Territory about 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.280 a woman who was allegedly murdered nine hours after police 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.600 were supposed to do a welfare check but never got 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:17.359 around to. That's coming up in a moment. Welcome back, 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.560 some great stories in tomorrow's papers. One of my favorites 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.400 on the front page of Tomorrow's Canberra Times. Liz, I 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:24.440 know you like this one too. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:29.720 I do, because it's just another classic trust the experts story. 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:35.080 Audit finds misleading reporting of millions. Bureaucrats told a board 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:39.040 overseeing the Digital Health record that the program was under budget, 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.560 but it ended up being forty million dollars over and 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.880 audit found there was an inconsistent and misleading reports to 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.480 the board which the project going, with the project going 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.759 millions of dollars over budget. The article goes on to 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.719 say the project is expected to be more than one 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:03.000 hundred and sixty million over the initial budget. I guess 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.200 they're a bit too far in at this point to 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.120 pull out, but I'd be seriously reconsidering if I were them, 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:09.920 part of the. 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.360 Story details that you know they're giving incremental reports. Is 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:16.080 this projects rolled out right and three months after saying no, 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.720 it's going to come in under budget. Imagine the meeting 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.839 where they walk in say, no, how we told it's 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:22.680 gonna be under budget, bitter new it's going to be 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.280 a bit over forty million. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.880 But if you've added forty million dollars to the expense 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.680 within three months, I mean they must be going out 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.160 to some bloody good lunches. 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:32.600 Right, how do. 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.600 You increase the cost by forty million in three months? 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.840 It was just inconsistent and misleading. 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.479 Oh well, it certainly was. 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.799 Doing the reporting it was. 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.720 Therefore, the story doesn't say do those bureaucrats keep their jobs? 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:47.120 Correct? 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:51.080 Of course exactly, Otherwise this would be the article to 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.480 break it to taxpayers that oh, heads are rolling over this, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.319 don't worry. But no, there is nothing to say that 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.440 any such thing is happening, So it's safe to it's not. 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:01.920 I mean, why are we working here and not in 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.120 the public service? I know, I know. Can we do 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:04.960 it with our lives? 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:05.920 Can you imagine? 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.080 You know, if I was head of programs here at 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.719 Sky News and I walked into the CEO's office and 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.080 I said, look, I know, I told you I was 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.399 actually going to come in under budget for programs this year, 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.239 but have actually just gone over by forty million in 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:21.280 the last three months. 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:22.600 Is that going to be an issue? 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.040 Do you reckon? 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:24.560 I'd have a job tomorrow overnight. 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.160 It's fine, We'll just cut this a salary and it'll be. 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.839 A very good point. 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.000 Wait, you guys get paid. 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.200 Let's go to the front page of the Northern Territory Times. 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.960 Back on beat in blue reads the headline playing clothes 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.279 officers will start wearing uniforms and unmarked police cars will 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.240 soon be branded in moves to make the Northern Territory 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.799 police forces presence seen and felt. Now, of course, the 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.239 election has just been decided in favor of the Was 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.360 it the Country Liberal Party correct that won the election? 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.600 There took the government back from Labor and it was 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.520 obvious all fought over law and order and on day 0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.879 one this is one of the first decisions that's come 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.640 out of a meeting with the Police commissioner. Makes a 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.040 lot of sense to me, Liz. There's crime and order 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.680 problems everywhere. People feel safe when police are around and 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.560 criminals might think twice when they see men in blue 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:18.480 wandering the streets. 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.240 Yeah, but there's also the downside of the very fact 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:25.280 that they were undercover in unmarked cars and just playing 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.520 closed uniforms is that you can catch people out doing 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.760 things that they would otherwise scuffer if you were driving 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.880 in a police van or dressed up as a police officer. 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.840 So, I mean, there's up in. 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.839 A downside to this, because the people that you really 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.320 want to get to, the crims, this makes that more difficult. 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.880 But yeah, the people who are less likely. 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:53.400 To perpetrate crime will feel safer seeing the white. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.160 And blue checks. I don't know i'd be voting. 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.440 But surely the idea is that it's better to prevent 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:02.160 crime than to apprehend criminals. And so if someone who 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.000 you know might be inclined to mug the bloke who's 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.120 walking up the street sees a copper on the street, 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.360 they're less likely to mug someone, Whereas if you have 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.719 the plane clothes copper there, the mugger will do the 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.000 mugging and then the copper will nab them. Surely it's 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.719 better for the person not to be mugged in the 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:16.120 first place. 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.880 Surely it's better to have that person then off the street. 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.279 Well, but if they see the copper, they're not going 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.920 to do the mugging in the first place. 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:24.759 I've always just. 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.000 Mug someone at another time when they can't see a 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.799 marked car or mugger, they're going to. 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.880 Market participate the mugging and arrest people before the. 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:33.960 Very very good point. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.160 But from a from a traffic policing point of view, 0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.480 I've always thought that when you've got unmarked police cars 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.040 driving around, you know, just waiting for someone to go 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.359 five kilometers over the limit or run a red light 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.080 so they can nab you, they should have marked police 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.399 cars everywhere because the idea is to catch you out 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.040 doing something that in all likelihood really isn't that dangerous, 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.319 but they make money out of it. It goes straight into 0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.920 government coffers. And it's the same as in New South Wales. 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.239 Previously they got rid of the signs warning you that 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.480 there was an unfixed you know, one of those movable 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.279 speed cameras ahead, and then that was changed because it 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.839 was upbroad because people are like, well, you know, I'm 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.160 getting fined for things that I really didn't think was 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.760 that bad. The idea is to entrap you into committing crimes, 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:19.360 and I don't like. 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:20.719 Have you ever seen it when you're driving along the 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.400 road and there's a police car up ahead and it's 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.120 a sixty zone, but the police car is doing like 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.600 fifty two and everyone's crawling along at fifty. No one's 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.040 game to go past him, even though you know you're 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.919 not breaking the law, but you just do whatever he does. 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.680 Indeed, let's go to another story about the Northern Territory 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.759 Police and this one is not so edifying. On the 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.880 front of The Australian Tomorrow in t Cops too busy 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:46.440 to do welfare check on murdered Aboriginal woman. Northern Territory 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.400 Police were too busy to conduct a welfare check on 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.480 an Aboriginal woman nine hours before she was allegedly murdered 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.560 by her partner, who had been banned from contacting her 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:03.960 for two DECA AIDS cases like this seriously make you 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:08.680 think either we have complete under resourcing of police or 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:13.120 there is possibly incompetence within police. It's the most basic stuff. 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.080 I'm sure there will be a lot more to be 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.279 said about that. Another story on the front of the 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:21.440 Olds Tomorrow, Funds go for class action profits. What have 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.600 your superannuation funds been up to. Let's says here, Australia's 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.640 larger super funds are investing millions of dollars in both 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.520 litigation funders and companies they are targeting in court, amid 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.600 renewed calls for a crackdown on international vulture firms reaping 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:40.000 huge profits from the government's light touch approach to class actions. 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:44.200 It's interesting because obviously when you launch a class action, 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.200 it's generally funded by someone a big benefactor, whether that 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.000 be a billionaire or a businessman, or in this case. 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:52.440 Big super funds. 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.759 And the idea is that if the class action is 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.600 pulled off, the money that is won, the line's share 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.800 of that will go to whoever funded, so they're hoping 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.160 to make a profit and then the remainder get sent 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.319 out to the people who joined in on the class action. 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.799 But the superannuation funds are not only backing the cases, 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.239 they're investing in the companies that the cases are being 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.040 run against. And part of me wonders whether it's an 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:20.080 engineering tactic where you run the case which then decreases 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.760 the share price because people pull out of the company, 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.239 and then the superannuation fund rules in and takes the 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.880 shares while they're at a good price. 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:29.080 Ingenious. 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.640 What rule you're really embracing the whole conspiracy theory thing tonight? 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.520 Well, why again, that is a common thing. 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.000 Why would you invest in both? Why would you invest 0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:38.440 in both? 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.839 Sounds see the way, smack, we need to Okay, once 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.879 you start talking about kem trows, they're not old. I'll 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.880 credit you with the conspiracy theory. But right now, you 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.200 guys are spruiting your feathers about now now a conspiracy 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:56.000 theory and it just sounds like pure common sense, which 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.520 most conspiracies turn out to be. Just give it a 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.160 few weeks, sometimes hours. 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.040 But you know, and we are forced to give our 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.799 money to these superannuation funds, and this is what they're 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.200 doing with it. You know, they're running class actions and 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.560 there's no of course, no guarantee that a class action 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.240 is going to be pulled off. It's a high risk investment. 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.879 I suppose you would call it. I'm sure we'd prefer 0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.200 they did something a little better with our money. Another 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.680 story on the front of the Yours tomorrow, Labour takes 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:25.640 power walk on tightrope and join kel from Kath and Kim. 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:25.959 In that job. 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:26.200 There. 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:30.040 Households face an ongoing multi year risk of power shortages 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:33.080 in New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia from this summer, 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.160 with authorities warning that major reliability risks could derail the 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.400 electricity grid unless new energy supplies. 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:41.600 Are urgently developed. 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.279 And of course we're told repeatedly that renewable energy is 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.160 the cheapest form of energy. You've got nothing to worry about, 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.840 and it may well be the cheapest form of energy 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.480 because of course, if you can't turn the lights on 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.400 because you have no power, you're not spending any money 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:56.440 on your power bills. 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:57.799 Your power bills will go. 0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.480 Down under this government, chiefly because you didn't have any 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:01.320 power in the first place. 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.919 This is like the slowest moving car crash that you've 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.520 ever seen in your life. We've had these warnings repeatedly 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.440 and eventually it'll all come crashing down and everyone will 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.600 be surprised. But not it's been ample warning. Not you. 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.919 We're going to go to a break when we come back. 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:22.160 A international airline passenger criticized for making bread dough in 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:27.560 mid air. That's coming up in a moment. All right, 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.240 welcome back the Late Debates Chief Cat. Correspondent Caleb Bond 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:32.959 has got a story from the UK. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.160 Indeed, you may well have seen Larry, the chief mouser 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.920 at Number ten Downing Street before he was adopted by 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:44.760 Number ten in twenty eleven to entertain David Cameron's kids 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.840 at the time. He's now seen six Prime Ministers, David Cameron, 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:54.320 Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Rischie Sunak and Kiir Starmer. 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.040 But poor old Larry is seventeen years old and they're 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.560 a bit worried that he might cark at soon. And 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.120 so in the spirit of the plans they come up 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.040 with for royal family members when they die. When the 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:10.160 Queen died, they executed Operation London Bridge. They've come up 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:14.279 with Operation Larry Bridges and they have decided when the 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.080 chief mouser at Number ten dies, and he's become such 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.520 a popular public figure, they've got the pictures chosen out. 0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.399 They're stored in a server at Number ten, ready to go. 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.880 They've written up the press release, they have the graphics, 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:27.480 they have a. 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.720 Social media plan. 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.239 This cat Larry and you can see him there and 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.640 he often likes to shoup when there are press conferences 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:36.719 out the front of number ten, and he sort of 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.640 sits there and waits at the door to be let in. 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.960 When Larry finally leaves this world, he is going to 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.600 get more press attention than almost any other person on 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.160 the face of this planet. And you know what, of 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.440 all the people who've lived in number ten in the 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.280 last twenty years, I reckon Larry's the one who deserves 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:54.799 it the most. 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.800 It's also reported that Larry gave Liz Trust the cold shoulder, 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.400 as did most of the UK publics a smart cat 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.719 most of her even when she was in the number ten, 0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.840 everyone had forgotten about her. Hey, yeah, we've got to 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:09.920 show you this woman who was on an international flight 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.000 to Barcelona visiting her sister, and she thought what could 0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.520 I give my sister? When I arrived at the airport, 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.400 she thought, I'm gonna give her some sour dough bread. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:21.160 So she began making the dough on the aircraft. She 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.240 filmed herself doing it. She's copped a lot of flak. 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:24.759 I tell you about that in a second. But to 0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.560 have a look at the video she created making dough 0:48:28.040 --> 0:49:05.520 on the aircraft flight. Why wouldn't you just watch a 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.680 movie for goodness sake? Anyway, She's copped a lot of 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.640 flak from people saying it was inconsiderate to people on 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.600 the plane who might be allergic to wheat or to 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:18.560 the flower, could become airborne and could cause toxicically in 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:19.720 the aircraft cabin. 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:21.840 Terrible everywhere. 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.640 That's it from us stick Around. Coming up is the 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:24.520 Rita Pennahe Show.