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Speaker 2: not a how to guide for people wanting to get
Speaker 2: into the industry. I don't want people to think that
Speaker 2: they're going to necessarily learn something here. It's more just
Speaker 2: a fun and interesting take on the industry, but also
Speaker 2: just coming from my point of view, I'm sitting down
Speaker 2: with my producer getting down to the nitty gritty of
Speaker 2: the sex worker industry. Being a full sex worker at
Speaker 2: times can be downright and petrifying. So after today's episode,
Speaker 2: you might want to rethink throwing in the towel and
Speaker 2: quitting your day job. Welcome back to Girlfriend for Hire.
Speaker 2: I have had an insanely busy week. It has been
Speaker 2: one of my busiest weeks on history. A lot of couples,
Speaker 2: a lot of couples, couple I do, I do, and
Speaker 2: I have two that I just really want to mention.
Speaker 2: First of all, I had a couple's booking where the
Speaker 2: couple were sixty five years old, really sixty five. It
Speaker 2: was great, had a really good time, lovely people, even
Speaker 2: probably going to hang out with the lady. Socially, she
Speaker 2: was great, We're gonna go out for lunch, we'll do
Speaker 2: like rules, Look what rules? There are no rules. We're
Speaker 2: consenting adults anyway, So this woman was fantastic. She was amazing.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do lunch. But just to be booked by
Speaker 2: sixty five year old woman was just fascinating. I've actually
Speaker 2: not ever kissed a woman who's sixty five years old,
Speaker 2: like full tongue like that, were full of personality and
Speaker 2: really interesting and yeah, so for me it was I've
Speaker 2: just not you know, often I will get sixty five
Speaker 2: year old men, but that's not often. That's actually quite rare.
Speaker 2: But to you know, have sex with a sixty five
Speaker 2: year old woman was definitely not my bingo card. It
Speaker 2: really was not something that I was anticipating. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just saw them during the middle of the day
Speaker 2: and it was just fantastic. It was just a GFE.
Speaker 3: So it was just.
Speaker 2: Really lovely, very sensual and you know, doing all of
Speaker 2: the things.
Speaker 3: GFE is the girlfriend experience for those of Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it was just that's to me that it was
Speaker 3: like a wholesome booking for this older couple obviously, but
Speaker 3: but she was more involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just really proud of her for stepping
Speaker 2: out and so she never know her whole life, has
Speaker 2: kissed a female or been with a female, and just
Speaker 2: decided that her and her partner it was something that
Speaker 2: they wanted to try. Good on them. I hope when
Speaker 2: I'm that age, I'm just getting escorts.
Speaker 4: When you're you're doing more than anyone that I just
Speaker 4: be doing right now.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, but I kind of pitch when I'm sixty five,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to be I don't know, home with
Speaker 2: my two cats and a cup of tea.
Speaker 4: Okay, sure, I find that hard to believe that. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And can I ask this it's probably a bit personal,
Speaker 4: but you say the session was like a two hour
Speaker 4: booking do older?
Speaker 1: Do older clients last longer than no? No?
Speaker 2: No, the older that you get, the less that it
Speaker 2: functions properly. Like it's kind of you've had your stint,
Speaker 2: you know, and it definitely doesn't work as well as
Speaker 2: it should. But that's fine, that's fine, that's no problem.
Speaker 4: There was something trending this past week and a bit
Speaker 4: about how long is he expected time to have sex.
Speaker 4: There was like some surveys that went out and one
Speaker 4: of the discussions from I heard from a couple of
Speaker 4: female pundits was guys think that lasting longer is better,
Speaker 4: but it's not actually the case.
Speaker 2: No, I'm like, you know, ten to twenty minutes. Girl, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm a busy lady. I've got things
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a common misconception. I feel, Yes, think's going
Speaker 4: to be longer. My girlfriend says, three or four minutes.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 2: Oh so you're doing well, well, look you'll get there.
Speaker 1: Brutal.
Speaker 4: Well, you're fresh from a lovely little thriesome for this
Speaker 4: week's episode. That sounds like a really fun story. But
Speaker 4: this week, what are we talk and we're talking quite
Speaker 4: the opposite.
Speaker 2: Yes, So these are a few different horror stories that
Speaker 2: I have been privy to and I just didn't want
Speaker 2: to make them about, you know, female sex workers being
Speaker 2: attacked or anything like that. This is quite a broad
Speaker 2: spectrum of you know, maybe some not so nice things
Speaker 2: that can happen to you if you're not careful. So anyway,
Speaker 2: the first one I actually I saw this online. This
Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago, and it just absolutely
Speaker 2: scared the shit out of me. And you can only
Speaker 2: imagine this happening to you and how you would feel.
Speaker 2: So this female sex worker in Australia, an escort. She
Speaker 2: took a booking and you know a lot of women
Speaker 2: don't do the background checks like what I do, or
Speaker 2: they don't. You know, you don't need a deposit to
Speaker 2: go and see them, You just turn up. So you
Speaker 2: can be very anonymous and god, I can't even it's
Speaker 2: making me sick even thinking about it before I've said it. So,
Speaker 2: her client rocks up to her doorstep. She opens the
Speaker 2: door and it is her ex stepfather. So from when
Speaker 2: she was a little girl, he was her stepfather for
Speaker 2: a few years, and he was on her doorstep to
Speaker 2: have a booking with her when she was an adult.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, in what.
Speaker 2: World did he think that this was going to be
Speaker 2: a good idea? In what world did he think that
Speaker 2: she was going to be? Like, Hi, Brian Nick, call
Speaker 2: it in. It's been years, Like, oh man, it's so
Speaker 2: good to say you. I can't wait to service your penis.
Speaker 1: And like yeah, because it's not like he's mixed it up.
Speaker 1: It's oh my god, messed up. He's gone. He knows
Speaker 1: I get that messed up.
Speaker 2: He knows full well who she is. He has contacted
Speaker 2: her and has just thought that it was a good
Speaker 2: idea that that this was going to happen. There's absolutely
Speaker 2: no excuse, and there's no way that he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: known who she was, Like, there's no way that that
Speaker 2: would have ever happened. The chance of that happening is
Speaker 2: so minuscule and so of course what did she do. No,
Speaker 2: she didn't have sex with.
Speaker 1: Them, obviously did the full service.
Speaker 2: With filming. Now, No, of course she turned him away.
Speaker 2: And see, a part of me just thinks that it's
Speaker 2: some weird ploy to just you know, obviously the breakup
Speaker 2: or something wasn't good, and there's some type of blad
Speaker 2: blood there and so it was just a you know,
Speaker 2: just to either rile them up or to get back
Speaker 2: at the mother for some So that's actually happened, and
Speaker 2: that just absolutely I can't have a feeling.
Speaker 4: You have a very strict yes, no no mates, no interaction.
Speaker 4: If I've known you privately, yes, don't even I.
Speaker 2: Have so many boundaries in place, and I talk about
Speaker 2: them all the time. It would never get to that point.
Speaker 2: If somebody had paid a deposit and their name is
Speaker 2: familiar to me because I have their name, There's no
Speaker 2: way I would just refund their money. There's absolutely no
Speaker 2: way that I would ever ever ever see someone.
Speaker 1: No think you have you had attempts?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah really yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How many are we talking?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just you know, people think that it's a good
Speaker 2: Oh we've known each other for a while. Sweet, I'll
Speaker 2: just come book you. No, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to. I don't I get to choose
Speaker 2: who I give my body to, and I don't have
Speaker 2: to do just for money, give my body to somebody
Speaker 2: just because they think it's a good idea or it's
Speaker 2: an idea that they've come up with. No, thank you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had like a friend's X or something?
Speaker 2: I actually, oh, do you know what? I had confessions
Speaker 2: on my Instagram a while ago, just like a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and I had somebody write in another
Speaker 2: escort and she said that she booked a client and
Speaker 2: the client was her partner's best mate, and so she
Speaker 2: went through with the booking.
Speaker 1: She still did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit, Yeah that was her confession.
Speaker 4: I get you know what though, it's the friend hot Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like have.
Speaker 2: You kind of always been like, oh is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say, because you've spoken about
Speaker 4: infidelity before the podcast, ethically, it's kind of the same,
Speaker 4: isn't it? Like what's good for the goose type scenario?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not good at carrying around secrets, and I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to carry around a secret like that. That
Speaker 2: doesn't make me sleep well. At night, and I have
Speaker 2: to be able to sleep well otherwise I would look
Speaker 2: like a piece of shit. So yeah, that kind of
Speaker 2: talking about boundaries does lead into the next story on
Speaker 2: my list. So the next story on my list is
Speaker 2: actually something that still gives me nightmares. I'll give a
Speaker 2: bit of a trigger warning that it does touch on
Speaker 2: violence against women and sexual assaults, So if that's not
Speaker 2: your thing, please just for the next couple of minutes,
Speaker 2: just skip ahead. So why I have so many boundaries
Speaker 2: in place, and why I talk about them so often,
Speaker 2: and why I probably have more boundaries in place than
Speaker 2: most sex workers that I know, And it's because of
Speaker 2: this one thing that happened to me, which still to
Speaker 2: this day gives me absolute nightmares. So back when I
Speaker 2: didn't have strong boundaries and I didn't even you know, know,
Speaker 2: to search people's names or look up their phone numbers,
Speaker 2: I hadn't yet learned that because I was still green,
Speaker 2: I had a man contact me and he wanted to
Speaker 2: book me for a whole weekend and so that for
Speaker 2: me is ten K and being green, I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: this is the most amount of money that I'll ever
Speaker 2: make in one time, Like this is insane. I have
Speaker 2: to do this booking. This is fantastic. I've made it
Speaker 2: and was talking to him back and forth, and a
Speaker 2: couple of sex workers at the time that I was
Speaker 2: talking to I said, look, I've got this guy and
Speaker 2: once it booked me for a whole weekend, and they
Speaker 2: were like, look, that's kind of alarm bells because no
Speaker 2: one books for a whole weekend. And now that I've
Speaker 2: been in this industry for six seven years, I've never
Speaker 2: been booked for a whole weekend. It's a fuck load
Speaker 2: of money. If you've got ten k to spend on
Speaker 2: a stranger that you don't even know, well then you're
Speaker 2: really irresponsible and stupid with your money. Nobody's got ten
Speaker 2: k to just give a random like it's it just
Speaker 2: doesn't It doesn't happen. So they were like, look, alarm bells.
Speaker 2: I'm being so excited. I'm starting to pack a bag,
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready, I'm getting all my lingerie together, and
Speaker 2: he's still texting telling me to hurry up. And you know,
Speaker 2: there are all these little like red flags popping up
Speaker 2: along the way him telling me to hurry up. Okay,
Speaker 2: you just booked me, and I've got a drive for
Speaker 2: a few hours to see you, like just little things.
Speaker 2: It got to a point where a concerned girlfriend in
Speaker 2: the industry called me and she said, Carlie, stop, I
Speaker 2: know you're excited. It's a lot of money, but you
Speaker 2: just need to just get a deposit off him. Just
Speaker 2: tell him if he's got ten k to give you,
Speaker 2: he's got money in the bank, A one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: deposit to confirm his identity is important. And if he
Speaker 2: can't pay that one hundred dollar deposit to you for
Speaker 2: you to even just cover your fuel for that drive, well,
Speaker 2: then what is he hiding? And do you want to
Speaker 2: see somebody who is not being for coming like that
Speaker 2: I asked for. I told him, okay, I'm about to
Speaker 2: jump in the car. Can you please just transfer one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. I'll be able to put feel in my car.
Speaker 2: And he very aggressively told me that there's no way
Speaker 2: in hell that he would transfer me one hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: that he had the ten k in cash sitting waiting
Speaker 2: for me. He sent me a picture of this ten
Speaker 2: k in cash, and I just there's something. I actually
Speaker 2: had my bag loaded in the car and I was
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat on my car and I sat
Speaker 2: there and I just took a deep breath and I thought,
Speaker 2: this doesn't feel right. I don't think I can do
Speaker 2: this without him transferring me one hundred dollars. It's not
Speaker 2: a lot. If you've got a lot of money, like
Speaker 2: you say you have, one hundred dollars is nothing. It's
Speaker 2: just covering my petrol so I can get there to you.
Speaker 2: We're going to spend the whole weekend together, like everything
Speaker 2: will be fine. Just please, here's my account details. Just
Speaker 2: transfer me a hundred bucks. No, started becoming really aggressive,
Speaker 2: really abusive, really foul, and I took my bag out
Speaker 2: of the car and I went back inside and that
Speaker 2: was the end of That was the end of that.
Speaker 2: Fast forward a couple of days, if not maybe nearly
Speaker 2: a week, and a report came through that a sex
Speaker 2: worker had traveled out to see this man and he
Speaker 2: had actually kidnapped her and kept her hostage for a
Speaker 2: couple of days. And I won't go into full detail
Speaker 2: of what he did to her, but she just made
Speaker 2: it out of life just she was actually so lucky
Speaker 2: that she survived the ordeal. But that's not something that
Speaker 2: you can I think come back from what she endured
Speaker 2: over those forty eight hours gives me nightmares. That could
Speaker 2: have been me, And I'm so aware that that could
Speaker 2: have been me. I could have been that girl, and
Speaker 2: then what would have happened to me? What would my
Speaker 2: life be like now? What would it going through something
Speaker 2: like that? I just I can't even comprehend. And so
Speaker 2: it was from that day onwards that I put all
Speaker 2: the measures that I have in place now that I
Speaker 2: feel like keep me safe.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I hear from people all the time, while it's your
Speaker 2: chose to do this job, you could just go do
Speaker 2: something else, do something safer, you don't have to interact
Speaker 2: with people. I enjoy what I do and I love
Speaker 2: my profession, but I have now got everything in place.
Speaker 2: So this knock on word, the likelihood of this happened
Speaker 2: to me is now so slim because I know exactly
Speaker 2: who I'm seeing, and you know, I've done their checks
Speaker 2: and you know they come through with flying colors, and
Speaker 2: they're the people that I see. I feel very lucky,
Speaker 2: and I'm very aware that you know, scenarios like this
Speaker 2: do happen to sex workers, and I find it absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy to have had that experience and
Speaker 4: then still be like, I'm going to keep in the industry.
Speaker 2: Well, people do say that, people like just go find
Speaker 2: a normal driving.
Speaker 1: That close call.
Speaker 4: But and I mean you've spoken about this on the
Speaker 4: pod before, but like you have qualifications in another role. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but the idea of like anyone kicking up is think
Speaker 4: about the idea of a deposit. And it makes so
Speaker 4: much sense why almost every week you bring up the
Speaker 4: idea of you using deposits to lock in bookings. I mean,
Speaker 4: you wear a hard hat when you're on a construction site. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you got oh and s rules in every other job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this guy was using numerous bona phones, numerous
Speaker 2: fake aliases and identities without having a deposit being paid. Well,
Speaker 2: then he could just be anyone. And so unfortunately this
Speaker 2: woman has turned up and you know the thing is
Speaker 2: that he potentially thought that she didn't have anything to
Speaker 2: tie him back to. However, of course his DNA led
Speaker 2: actually went to jail for this, and he was in
Speaker 2: jail for years and years and years. This happened quite
Speaker 2: some time ago, and he's just gone out.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is something that that I'm just so
Speaker 2: hyper aware of and it's why I do the background
Speaker 2: checks on everybody that I see. And when a guy
Speaker 2: is like, oh, I don't want to give him my
Speaker 2: idea or I don't want to pay a deposit, I'm like, cool,
Speaker 2: see you later. I'm not going to argue with you
Speaker 2: to try and get a deposit out of you. If
Speaker 2: you don't want to pay it, fine, So yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not putting myself. Yeah, nope, not gonna happen. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, And it's something that I've thought about and
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I wanted to speak about it.
Speaker 2: It's it's not it's not nice. It's not nice. And
Speaker 2: I think we all try so hard to normalize our
Speaker 2: industry when you know, at the same time there are
Speaker 2: things happening in the background which are fucking terrifying, terrifying.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so anyway, here we are, Well.
Speaker 1: We'll move from a pretty hectic look.
Speaker 2: It gets lighter, I swear it gets lighter.
Speaker 4: No, and that's but you know, it's real, and that's
Speaker 4: the whole point of the part, isn't it. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's not just with clients that you can kind of
Speaker 4: get in trouble.
Speaker 1: There's the law as well. In this kind of role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I didn't want the horror stories just to
Speaker 2: all be about you know, violence against women, Like I
Speaker 2: don't think that that is a road that I want
Speaker 2: to just make a whole episode about it. There are
Speaker 2: so many things in this industry that can be terrifying
Speaker 2: from both sides, for clients and for sex workers. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, So I had a client. This was a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and here in Brisbane actually, so
Speaker 2: the laws have just changed in Queensland prior to the
Speaker 2: first of August just this year. Prior to that, there
Speaker 2: were entrapment laws in Queensland, So the Queensland Police had
Speaker 2: a full division just to entrap punters and sex workers
Speaker 2: potentially doing the wrong thing in Queensland and you would
Speaker 2: be fined and hauled before a judge.
Speaker 1: It's actually so what they would pose as clients.
Speaker 2: Yes, they would either pose as clients for sex workers
Speaker 2: to try and catch sex workers out offering the wrong
Speaker 2: thing or saying the wrong thing in their advert and
Speaker 2: you know, just trying to catch them unawares. So say
Speaker 2: in a case where this would happen, So say you're
Speaker 2: the female is offering natural sex, no condoms, very illegal
Speaker 2: quested for all the bloody time. And so if she
Speaker 2: says yes that she will provide a no condom service
Speaker 2: and the cop turns up and money changes hands, she
Speaker 2: then is arrested and put before a judge for you know,
Speaker 2: whatever things that she's done wrong, and she can get
Speaker 2: a get on the prostitution charge which will be on
Speaker 2: her record forever and she'll be on the sex offenders registry.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you this, Yes, the legalities around your
Speaker 4: profession because you say prostitution charge, but that's the job exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like to be like, you're charged with prostitutions and what
Speaker 4: is it that you do for a living?
Speaker 1: Well, I work in prostitution.
Speaker 2: Thank you? Okay, okay. I love this because I love
Speaker 2: the realization that you're having right now as a normal civilian.
Speaker 2: And these are the battles that sex workers face. Our
Speaker 2: job is legal, but if you slip up or do
Speaker 2: one little thing wrong or get caught out for anything
Speaker 2: that isn't within the law, you can be hauled before
Speaker 2: a judge. In your job. If you make a mistake,
Speaker 2: you might get I don't know, into trouble from HR
Speaker 2: and a slap on the wrists, or they might you know,
Speaker 2: fire you from your job, or you might just have
Speaker 2: you know, a meeting with your boss. But in my industry,
Speaker 2: if you slip up, it can mean being put on
Speaker 2: the sex offenders Registry.
Speaker 4: The sex offenders Registry, yes, like notify the neighbors Karlie
Speaker 4: Electric lives.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know. But see, this is why everybody has
Speaker 2: worked so hard for decriminalization in Queensland to peel back
Speaker 2: a lot of those really archaic, outdated laws. And so
Speaker 2: they all came through on August first. There's no more entrapment,
Speaker 2: there's no more task force, there's you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of the really like we couldn't even I wasn't allowed
Speaker 2: to be in another hotel room with another escort. That
Speaker 2: was illegal, and if we got caught in the same
Speaker 2: hotel room, boom off to court.
Speaker 4: Really yes, so that that means you couldn't do this,
Speaker 4: You couldn't do the team up sessions exactly.
Speaker 2: And you couldn't or you couldn't you know, get a
Speaker 2: hotel split the costs with somebody. Essentially, they wanted to
Speaker 2: keep us singular, but that also keeps us not safe.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of a lot of really bad laws,
Speaker 2: but they all got repealed, thankfully. Yeah, d Krim for
Speaker 2: Queensland came through. So Queensland has now caught up with
Speaker 2: a lot of the other states. So on the taxi
Speaker 2: line to get a cab home and he's absolutely maggot.
Speaker 2: A nice girl talking to him, strikes up a conversation.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, she's hot, like full talking to him
Speaker 2: and he's into it. And she's like, oh, hey, by
Speaker 2: the way, like if you want to come with me,
Speaker 2: I'm an escort, Like I'll only chat to you one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars and he was like hell, yes, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: let's go. Boom. She arrests him. She was undercover. It
Speaker 2: was in put before a judge and he actually got convicted,
Speaker 2: and so he got put on the second fender's registry.
Speaker 2: And he said that it impacted He's like, I'm just
Speaker 2: a normal guy. I dunk and she was like standing
Speaker 2: there to me a hundred bucks. He's like fuck yeah.
Speaker 2: Like he's like I didn't even think twice. It's like
Speaker 2: the way that it impacted his life was so huge.
Speaker 2: He couldn't live near schools.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you can't work with children,
Speaker 1: you can't get a blue cart.
Speaker 4: In this state, you wouldn't be allowed within certain ranges
Speaker 4: of not just schools, but like playgrounds.
Speaker 1: And that.
Speaker 2: Also having to disclose it constantly. He's like, I had
Speaker 2: to always disclose it if I started a new job
Speaker 2: or something like that. He's like, I had to disclose
Speaker 2: this often, and that to me is absolutely terrifying. That
Speaker 2: is a horror story. Your whole life being derailed because
Speaker 2: of this entrapment happening so innocently, and.
Speaker 1: Now you can't.
Speaker 4: But also, if there's one thing I've learned sitting here
Speaker 4: with you, Cali, is that's not how sex workers work.
Speaker 1: Wow, they're not catching up with you in.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. But that's just I don't know. See
Speaker 2: that to me is just a really old school like
Speaker 2: they saw this on Lauren Ora or the movies or
Speaker 2: something like. It makes no sense to me whatsoever that
Speaker 2: this is how that they would how they would do that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are women who are working from the street.
Speaker 2: I don't know any personally. I'm not sure that it
Speaker 2: even still happens, Like that's probably really naive for me.
Speaker 2: It probably is still happening. But yeah, poor poor guy,
Speaker 2: poor guy, I think he said that he just thought
Speaker 2: that it was a bit of a farce and that
Speaker 2: it would get thrown out of court because he didn't
Speaker 2: do anything wrong, and I think he even represented himself
Speaker 2: and I don't think it went very well. Well obviously
Speaker 2: not it didn't. So yeah, not great. But those laws
Speaker 2: now don't exist in Queensland, so you're all good drunk
Speaker 2: guys in taxi line.
Speaker 4: Anyone in the taxi line now belsh.
Speaker 2: So on another note, there was this is a big
Speaker 2: kafuffle that happened a few years ago and it really
Speaker 2: played out online for everyone to see. It was sometimes
Speaker 2: sex workers can be full of drama, very full of drama.
Speaker 2: We're all we're all really thinking, we're all small business owners,
Speaker 2: and everybody thinks that they're fighting for the same men.
Speaker 2: But you know what, half the world is full of men.
Speaker 2: Believe me, they're every why and so I just don't
Speaker 2: think that we need to, you know, have the fighting
Speaker 2: that that used to be around. Like there was a
Speaker 2: few years ago. It got so bad that there was
Speaker 2: an escort, you know, on tour and she had checked
Speaker 2: into her hotel and put a cute pickup of her
Speaker 2: in her hotel room. A rival sex worker saw online
Speaker 2: and worked out what hotel she was staying in, and
Speaker 2: she phoned the hotel reception and the police to let
Speaker 2: them know that they had a sex worker operating from
Speaker 2: their hotel and that this is what her name was.
Speaker 2: What happens mid client, full police riot team turn up
Speaker 2: to arrest her and the client. Yeah, this is stuff
Speaker 2: of nightmares. This is oh god, I can't even imagine
Speaker 2: how awful for her. But also as a client, you're
Speaker 2: just like, you're just trying to have some intimacy and
Speaker 2: you know, have a good Friday AVO and yeah, and
Speaker 2: have a full police team to arrest the two of you.
Speaker 2: She got put before a judge for that one. I'm
Speaker 2: not too sure what the outcome was. I how feeling
Speaker 2: it got thrown out and was dismissed. But that for me,
Speaker 2: oh god, it makes my skin crawl.
Speaker 1: Have you had many encounters with the police.
Speaker 2: Nah, I've called the police mid I've called the police midbooking,
Speaker 2: mid booking. Yeah, yeah, that was actually here on the
Speaker 2: Gold Coast. I was mid booking and I could hear
Speaker 2: next door a woman being slapt around by her partner
Speaker 2: and he was screaming at her, saying that he was
Speaker 2: going to kill her, and she was crying and you
Speaker 2: could hear stuff being thrown around and you could hear
Speaker 2: her being hit or you know, being pushed around. And
Speaker 2: I just looked at my client and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I have to call the police right now.
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, no, that I understand. This
Speaker 2: is like it was like I don't know, two pm
Speaker 2: on like Wednesday or something. But I just gave them
Speaker 2: their room number and I could just kind of like that.
Speaker 2: I did my bit, but no, the police came to
Speaker 2: get a statement. So the police arrived. I was just
Speaker 2: across the road from the police station, and police arrived
Speaker 2: only a couple of minutes later. But I was with
Speaker 2: a client. So I am in a robe and he's
Speaker 2: in a robe looking like he wants to absolutely die.
Speaker 1: Going to say let the client leave.
Speaker 2: Cops. Well he didn't want. He paid for like a
Speaker 2: few hours and this was like, honestly, well, I said
Speaker 2: to him, I was kind of well, we didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that the police were just going to
Speaker 2: come straight for me. And so it was only a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes and then police were at my door.
Speaker 1: Could you have gotten in trouble for doing what you
Speaker 1: were doing.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: No, that was so when they said what are you doing?
Speaker 2: No, they were kind of like, ah, like, look at
Speaker 2: the both of us having some sexy time and you know,
Speaker 2: mid afternoon on a Wednesday. And so yeah, my client
Speaker 2: looked like he wanted to absolutely leave the planet.
Speaker 4: After you gave your statement, did you guys get back
Speaker 4: into the session.
Speaker 2: It was so hard. It was hard for like, I
Speaker 2: think that who knows. Look, I never heard from him.
Speaker 2: I never heard from it ever. Again, it was hard
Speaker 2: for me. I've my brain just wasn't in it. I
Speaker 2: should have I should have just yeah. Look in hindsight,
Speaker 2: I should have stopped the booking and just yeah. But
Speaker 2: I didn't realize what it was that it was going
Speaker 2: to be like that they were going to come to
Speaker 2: talk to me straight away and they wanted to train
Speaker 2: here through the wall into their Oh it was.
Speaker 1: It must be so crazy for a client.
Speaker 4: When you think about and I don't know what majority
Speaker 4: of your clients are probably more confident, well versed in
Speaker 4: what they're about to do. Would you say more people
Speaker 4: come in confident and ready or more people nervous.
Speaker 2: They're all nervous and petrified.
Speaker 4: So when you think about how nerve wracking it must
Speaker 4: be for some of them, whether they're like a part
Speaker 4: like they have a partner in their in fidelity or
Speaker 4: it is it is.
Speaker 2: And then you have cops turn up and say Gold
Speaker 2: Coast is a small place, like yeah, you know to
Speaker 2: be a business owner, like he was a small business
Speaker 2: owner on the Gold Coast, Like people obviously know who
Speaker 2: he is. Look, he may never see a sex worker ever.
Speaker 4: Again, I mean, like you just have this one experience. Ye,
Speaker 4: well that's a sign that I should not be doing this.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, you know. I mean it's confirmed
Speaker 4: all my suspicions because I'd imagine someone booking a sex worker,
Speaker 4: they would go through all of the awful things that
Speaker 4: could happen. Yeah, in this session, my partner finds out
Speaker 4: what if there's a fire and now I'm out on
Speaker 4: the street, and like all these kind of scenarios for
Speaker 4: one of them to happen to apply, I feel like
Speaker 4: that person is lost to the industry now forever.
Speaker 2: They're Yeah, they're absolutely done. Look, these were some of
Speaker 2: the scarier stories that I've been carrying around, and at
Speaker 2: times they do give me nightmares and make me rethink
Speaker 2: my whole existence. So look, maybe you know, just put
Speaker 2: all your ducks in a row and think twice about
Speaker 2: what you're doing. There are very real consequences to this
Speaker 2: industry sometimes. On next week's episode of Girlfriend for Hia,
Speaker 2: we are going to get into what's been very controversial
Speaker 2: in the media at the moment. OnlyFans, content creators, and schoolies.
Speaker 2: I have a bit to say about that, So I'll
Speaker 2: talk to you then