WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 26 January

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<v Speaker 1>The Sky New Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you like an evening, Happy Australia Day. Welcome into the

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<v Speaker 1>man Cave. This is a huge night, because Sunday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Pall Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>This moment in our Sky News week is for the

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<v Speaker 2>hard course, the people who want to know not just

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<v Speaker 2>story behind the story, but the real deal behind what

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else will react to in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 1>We're calling it the State of the Race.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a conversation with people who do a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>polling but also speak to a bunch of voters about

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<v Speaker 2>that polling, and of course the great Michael Kroger, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been through many an election. If you think you care

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<v Speaker 2>about politics, believe me, you want to see this segment.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be every Sunday between now and the election,

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<v Speaker 2>which feels like it could be between now and November

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<v Speaker 2>next year, but believe me, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be between now and May.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, today is our National Day, the day where

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<v Speaker 2>we are proud of the country that we are and

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<v Speaker 2>we look forward to the nation that we will be.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cool to see, at least on Channel seven

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<v Speaker 2>News that the lead story was Australia celebrating Australia. It

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<v Speaker 2>was nice to see that it wasn't and also there

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<v Speaker 2>was no dot dot dot. It was Australia celebrating Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen thousand people joined the country today. They took up

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<v Speaker 2>their citizenship. They have joined the greatest club in the world. Congratulations, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy everything that we've got for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just love anywhere you went that there were.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty of people who were willing to talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>camera about the greatest joint in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>We love our country and there's no other country like it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Australian through and through. I look out Australian and

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should all celebrate this day.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, I really love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it is disappointing that when you go through the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of our CBDs that you don't see the public

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<v Speaker 2>bunting and flags that you may well have used to.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up this morning in Brisbane after the Luke

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<v Speaker 2>Comb's concert last night. What an absolute thumper that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get to that a little bit later. And there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really much to see in the center of the city.

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<v Speaker 2>But the further you went into the suburbs and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>see a flag on a car here or there. The

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<v Speaker 2>point is that while there are many big institutions that

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to recognize the day, you can you do so.

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<v Speaker 2>If you got the cash, put a flagpole out of

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<v Speaker 2>the front of your house. Why not fly the flag

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<v Speaker 2>three sixty five? Why not find a way to fly

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<v Speaker 2>out a couple of days before, a couple of days after.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not put a sticker on your car. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is is that we know the vast majority of Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the poles to prove it. They're all in

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<v Speaker 1>on the day.

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<v Speaker 2>They understand the day they understand the day is not

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<v Speaker 2>a victory over Indigenous Australia or any.

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<v Speaker 1>Garbage like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead a celebration of the modernity and the peacefulness of

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<v Speaker 2>which we live. And as I always talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that our national story maybe tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>years in that direction, a couple of hundred years of

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<v Speaker 2>modern tales, but there is every page yet to be

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<v Speaker 2>printed is blank, and all twenty seven million of us

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<v Speaker 2>will play our part in deciding what the story is

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<v Speaker 2>between now and the next time that we can reconvene

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<v Speaker 2>on this day. So if you're somebody who did fly

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<v Speaker 2>the flag today, good on you. If you're somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>will be inspired as a result of this conversation to

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<v Speaker 2>fly the flag next to you, good on you. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what your local council does, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what the government says. And the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>we're the ones who decide what our street looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the ones who decide what our homes look like.

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<v Speaker 2>It stuck out like the proverbial, but I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>say a shout out to the Amkel chemist at the

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<v Speaker 2>airport because it was the only shop that had stuck

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<v Speaker 2>up an Australian flag. Now, of course many and most

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<v Speaker 2>brands are all obviously scared of the twenty percent that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to throw the toys out of the court

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. But here's the deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you had a great day. You know why we

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<v Speaker 2>mark this day. We celebrate this day while we understand

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<v Speaker 2>the complexities of this day, but we commit to that

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<v Speaker 2>future like fifteen thousand people are. So by the time

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<v Speaker 2>we next convene, more flags wherever you can. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>it going. Not to annoy people, but just to show

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<v Speaker 2>how into it you are. As I suggested the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian of the Year most likely was going to

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<v Speaker 2>end up being Olden Her of course, the former legendary

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<v Speaker 2>AFL player and AFL coach, a man who was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen with motor neurone disease. He was told

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<v Speaker 2>that his life would end within three years. Well now

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<v Speaker 2>we are many years beyond that. In fact, what the

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<v Speaker 2>best part of twelve And while the beast as he

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<v Speaker 2>calls it, is wrecking his body, it is not breaking

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<v Speaker 2>his spirit. He and his wife have of course put

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<v Speaker 2>together that phenomenal fight mode of neurone disease charity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's raised more than one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars to fight the disease, to have re search where

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<v Speaker 2>previously no one was looking to delve into the too

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<v Speaker 2>hard basket.

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<v Speaker 1>Strength and love to him.

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<v Speaker 2>What a perfect and wonderful example not just of a

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<v Speaker 2>person who is the best of us this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>next year and for all years to come. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>that no one will be regretting this decision in five

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<v Speaker 2>years or ten years, as opposed to more fashionable choices

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<v Speaker 2>of previous years. Neil can't use his own voice anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>but through the power of modern technology, he is still

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<v Speaker 2>able to communicate with us. I chose to fight because

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<v Speaker 2>if I didn't, how could I expect anyone else to.

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<v Speaker 1>I chose to hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I believe in the decency and generosity of Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a special blow. Congratulations to everyone involved in that fight.

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<v Speaker 2>How to everyone who is cook this Australia day who

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't last, Strength and love to you for the fight

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<v Speaker 2>that is in front of you, be it big or small.

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<v Speaker 2>To the cares of Australia who will not get a

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<v Speaker 2>little gold Order of Australia badge, their name will never

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<v Speaker 2>end up in the paper. To the people who take

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<v Speaker 2>care of those that are taking a tough time again, strengthen,

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<v Speaker 2>love to all of you. But one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>raised by a person who was able to use his

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<v Speaker 2>fame and his power to make not only his life longer,

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<v Speaker 2>but equally importantly, to try to create a scenario to

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<v Speaker 2>extend other people's lives until eventually, hopefully fingers crossed, one

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<v Speaker 2>day we get to the place where life can be

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<v Speaker 2>as good as possible for as long as possible and

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<v Speaker 2>again strengthen love to everyone who lost someone between this

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<v Speaker 2>Australia Day and the last Australia Day. We know how

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<v Speaker 2>difficult any public holiday or family occasion is. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to know, wanted you to know that we see you,

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<v Speaker 2>we think of you each and every day, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>all commit to again to live the life that the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are no longer with us can't because they

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<v Speaker 2>are the people who made us who we are, and

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<v Speaker 2>help us to our bit for the country of which

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<v Speaker 2>we love. The Senior Australian of the Year had a

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal story as well to tell. He's from Western Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and he has done incredible things when it comes to wheelchairs.

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<v Speaker 2>This phenomenal story here of brother Thomas Oliver Pickett.

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<v Speaker 5>And Wheelchairs costs two hundred and seventy five dollars for

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<v Speaker 5>our wheelchair, for our volunteers to make and for this

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<v Speaker 5>summer money. A child with a disability perceives a new

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<v Speaker 5>life by getting off the ground, having dignity as well

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<v Speaker 5>as mobility.

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<v Speaker 1>You betcha how good again?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I took time on Thursday night to go through

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<v Speaker 2>all of the different state representatives.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking time tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>To look at the people who ended up being elevated

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<v Speaker 2>above the rest as the Australian of the Year, Senior Australian

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<v Speaker 2>the Year, Young Australian and Local hero because again they

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<v Speaker 2>are the best of us. The next time somebody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to roll their eyes or overtly attack the country, these

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<v Speaker 2>are four reasons why you can tell them where to go,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Young Australian of the Year doing her bid

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to particularly the health and wellbeing of

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<v Speaker 2>Indigenous young people.

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<v Speaker 1>This was her statement. This is doctor Katrina Ruck.

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<v Speaker 6>We are pioneering the world's first reusable laundry system to

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<v Speaker 6>combat rheumatic heart disease, as you heard, a condition that

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<v Speaker 6>almost exclusively affects Indigenous Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>ID love that and the award that I think doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get as much attention because of the history of Australian

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year and the well it feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>generation of recognition of the young and Senior Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>But the local Heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>These are two women from the Act who again decided

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<v Speaker 2>to get together to do something special for their community

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<v Speaker 2>and they have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Highlighted as the local heroes.

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<v Speaker 7>This Australian Day, connecting through food, women can share their

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<v Speaker 7>knowledge and culture, enriching our society through diverse It's about

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<v Speaker 7>providing opportunities, stability and hope to people who, just like us,

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<v Speaker 7>just want a chance to make something of their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>They work together to harness the power of the hospitality industry,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe to help empower the most vulnerable in their community.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they have done many interviews in the hour since,

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<v Speaker 2>but his some of what these special people have had

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<v Speaker 2>to say. In fact, I'll get that for you in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment or two's time. But these people, they are

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<v Speaker 2>the examples of what is the best amongst us, and

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve the full celebration and that moment in the

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<v Speaker 2>spotlight meantime, as always, there are people who tried to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty the day and a lot of Greens

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<v Speaker 2>voters decided to march, of course, because they believe that

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<v Speaker 2>any celebration today is.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course wrong. You know the debate, you know my view.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting to note that apparently the numbers slightly down on

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<v Speaker 2>previous years. My guess would be that if there was

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<v Speaker 2>a federal change of government, it would become again catch

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<v Speaker 2>cry for much of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>To get a little more fired up.

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<v Speaker 2>But because they're in power right now, on the verge

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<v Speaker 2>of potentially more power as a result of minority government,

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<v Speaker 2>well you know, maybe they sat this one out. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we know there's been a significant change at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia when it comes to people's attitudes towards Australia

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<v Speaker 2>day now.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazingly, some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>People who decide to choose today or last night before

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<v Speaker 2>today to make their point about the past and how

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<v Speaker 2>they believe that it shapes our future. Someone decided to

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<v Speaker 2>rip the heads off the busts of two former prime ministers.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in Ballarat.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of statues with the faces of former

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<v Speaker 2>prime ministers the ones they attacked, Paul Keating and Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 2>Now like well just like their politics, and clearly I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have voted for either of them. These are two

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<v Speaker 2>very strange people specifically to have gone after. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Keating, anyone who's ever read their Redfern speech would

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that I'd be surprised that he would be. Of

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<v Speaker 2>all of the figures, they're the one to take and

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin right, of course, when it came to the national apology,

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<v Speaker 2>which brings me to the real point I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make it today, and it's not about the tens of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people who march. It's about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are now associating themselves with the organizations that

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<v Speaker 2>organize these things, or the people who are very happy

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<v Speaker 2>to show themselves at times like this. Now, can I

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<v Speaker 2>show you here some of again the protesting that took

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<v Speaker 2>place today. I'm avoiding their terms, but there's one photo

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<v Speaker 2>in particular. Now, take away the every little t shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>take away the Palestinian flags. Have a look at that one,

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<v Speaker 2>which is abolish the date and abolish the state. You

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<v Speaker 2>may have seen versions of this around you. Down with

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<v Speaker 2>the day and down with the colony. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because the mask is slipping for these people. They

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<v Speaker 2>use things like a debate about a national day to

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<v Speaker 2>attack something much bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>March bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Than the day on which we recognize Australia's past and

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<v Speaker 2>we can recommit to its future. These are the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>of hardcore leftists who.

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<v Speaker 1>Have always wanted a revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>This happens to be their way that they think they

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<v Speaker 2>can get into the revolution. But it says everything that

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<v Speaker 2>if they had the blank check what happens. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to change a name of something, it's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to change a flag of something. But what do they mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they mean the entire system of government will be

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<v Speaker 2>replaced by only certain people being able to vote, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>no one votes at all. In the same criticism that

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<v Speaker 2>is offered about European royal families, is it about bloodlines

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow decide who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going to be in charge of our community?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, they'll never say any of this because it's

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<v Speaker 2>basically just the big generic that they are going against.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the people who, if they lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Norway would want a revolution in Norway. The people who

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<v Speaker 2>lived in New Zealand who'd want a revolution in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are born here who want a revolution here.

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<v Speaker 2>And again there are thousands of people twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the country very legitimate position. Their position is opposite to

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of the country. But the joy of free speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>they can have it. But when you're holding up abolish

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<v Speaker 2>the state, the colony will fall. They're not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a republic, they're not talking about removing the word royal

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<v Speaker 2>from the children's hospital. They're talking about something that is

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<v Speaker 2>a revolution one that I think that Australia will never want,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone accept. But what starts with words may well

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<v Speaker 2>end up as more aggressive actions. I hope that the

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<v Speaker 2>institutions that are as committed to the incredible future of

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<v Speaker 2>this country as recognizing the difficulties of the past, are

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<v Speaker 2>very stern in dealing with these scenarios. But what if

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to do is turn around and pull down

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<v Speaker 2>the banners and stop saying things like Happy Australia Day

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<v Speaker 2>as a way of trying to pretend that they can

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<v Speaker 2>delay their revolution by a day. I've got some news

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<v Speaker 2>for them that's not going to work. You may have

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<v Speaker 2>seen the Prime Minister on our airwaves here today talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Andrew clonel good and interesting wide ranging interview, but

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things jumped up as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister's appearance at the National Press Club. This of

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<v Speaker 2>course is his official return to the official start of

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<v Speaker 2>the official year, when he's been around since the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, over and over and over again. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>the election has been running since last year. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>officially unofficially officially officially unofficially beginning when people get back

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<v Speaker 2>to work, presumably either starting tomorrow because you won't have

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<v Speaker 2>that public holiday because ra or Tuesday, because you do now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister said in this speech and in the

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<v Speaker 2>interview that he believes that the country's headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction. The exact opposite, by the way of what

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<v Speaker 2>more than fifty percent of the people who do the

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<v Speaker 2>opinion poll in the Guardian think about the direction of

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<v Speaker 2>the country. But here is the Prime Minister saying everything

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<v Speaker 2>is fine, nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 8>What I'm confident of is the II leader government that's focused,

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<v Speaker 8>that's orderly, that has seen Australia through some very difficult

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<v Speaker 8>economic times, that we are heading in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 8>and that we have an agenda to build on that

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<v Speaker 8>in our second term.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the anyone who sort of tunes out about

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<v Speaker 2>three words in because you can tell, oh, okay, they've

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<v Speaker 2>worked something out to say, as opposed to it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be something d I say trump in that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little off the cuff and a little surprising to us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the second of these that I also wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>poke a little attention out, which was the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>say he has no regrets now. Of course we know

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<v Speaker 2>chiefly and easily decision to send the country to a

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<v Speaker 2>referendum that ultimately was sixty forty no cost four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty million dollars and in terms of progressives put

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<v Speaker 2>back many many causes.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that he would find a way to say

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<v Speaker 1>that he regretted that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, of course not everything is awesome and

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<v Speaker 2>only Peter Dutton's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, what's your biggest regret?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, of course, of course any prime minister can do

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<v Speaker 8>things in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>That are perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps, and you know, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Have a view that if you look at the media

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<v Speaker 8>every morning, I don't feel the need to give myself

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<v Speaker 8>a character assessment.

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<v Speaker 2>He of course is talking at an event where the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Now admittedly it's the canber Press Gallery, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>the media that doesn't like all that all full stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that appears in the media they don't control. But you

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<v Speaker 2>would think that part of if the polls are showing

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<v Speaker 2>us that there's a very significant number of people and

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<v Speaker 2>there is a very significant number of people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the Prime minister's leadership, a majority of people believing

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<v Speaker 2>that he is doing a poor job. That rather than

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<v Speaker 2>sort of eye rolling and doing the little giggle about

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<v Speaker 2>the media, why't I be slightly self effacing Why not

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<v Speaker 2>say we could have done this, we could have done that,

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<v Speaker 2>but the point is we've learned out lesson and then

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<v Speaker 2>here we go again. Instead, he thinks that basically he

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<v Speaker 2>will be protected by the people in that room, and

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<v Speaker 2>for of course labor politicians, it ends up being frankly

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<v Speaker 2>a home game. But something I also wanted to point

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<v Speaker 2>out about the opinion polls at the moment, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that as stern as some of us may be in

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<v Speaker 2>our views, there's a significant number of people who aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a couple of things about the polls I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to show you, which is, sixty six percent of

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<v Speaker 2>people they are committed to their vote, So thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>percent is sort of still up for grabs, but basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirds of the game has alway decided.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's deciding whether they're going to go blue, red, yellow, independent,

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<v Speaker 2>something else. Thirty four percent sliding around, but that titans

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<v Speaker 2>will right up when we get to the question in

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<v Speaker 2>again the turnbul Times poll, the essential poll, what percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of people are undecided about which way their vote's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Just five percent of people in that particular pole, So

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere between five and thirty four percent of people apparently

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<v Speaker 2>potentially up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>That in a Sunday Night segment which begins right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is state.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Race.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, obviously we get closer, we get more polling, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>start to work out who's up, who's down, all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it. But the idea here is that while

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<v Speaker 2>you are committed to a channel like this and a

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<v Speaker 2>program like this and all the detail in the uphill

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<v Speaker 2>and downdale of politics, I want to get people on

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<v Speaker 2>who might be able to challenge some of our views,

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<v Speaker 2>but also to put some data behind some of our

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<v Speaker 2>perceptions and experience behind them as well. Simon Welsh we

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<v Speaker 2>met last week from the Red Bridge organization. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who do polling and a whole bunch of insights,

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<v Speaker 2>which in part is built with long, extensive conversations with voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovely to see you again, Simon, and the great Michael Kroger,

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<v Speaker 2>a carryout a CHAMPI has always strongly affiliated with the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party, and there is no surprise that he, like me,

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<v Speaker 2>has a strong opinion about how the world works.

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<v Speaker 1>So, lads, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to ask a couple of things about the unofficial

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<v Speaker 2>reset of the official reset of the official beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, guys, guys, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who's kind of turned on the news notes it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't stop over summer, right, it doesn't stop over summer.

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<v Speaker 2>In an election year, you just have fifteen ways of

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<v Speaker 2>reintroducing yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get to those numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying, where it could be anywhere from five

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<v Speaker 2>percent in some polls to thirty four percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are either undecided or haven't started to lock in

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<v Speaker 2>their views.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon, I'll start with you.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say to you that at this stage

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<v Speaker 2>of the cycle, whether it is not the official thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three day election campaign where people on television say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>people are only starting to tune in because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the results of the polls that are coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it tell you about this cycle compared to say,

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<v Speaker 2>last one, when the frist on in the air was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty obvious, which was that they wanted to dump the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there more undecided now fewer? What do you see?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we're definitely seeing more undecided at this stage, and

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<v Speaker 9>just quickly that disparity between the five percent thirty five percent.

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<v Speaker 9>I think we'll come back to how they're sort of

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<v Speaker 9>calculating those two categories. I think one might be a

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<v Speaker 9>straight out message, a straight out sort of response people

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<v Speaker 9>saying undecided. I suspect the other ones got people that

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<v Speaker 9>might be leaning one way or the other but aren't

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<v Speaker 9>truly committed to it. So they might be showing up

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<v Speaker 9>as labor voters or liberal voters in the pole, but

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<v Speaker 9>they'ren't there, they're not committed, they're not strong behind that fact.

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<v Speaker 9>I suspect that's what's going on there. But certainly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>well we're seeing there's a lot of up in the

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<v Speaker 9>air now, and unsurprisingly particularly in those outer suburban contest

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<v Speaker 9>seats where this election is going to be decided a

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<v Speaker 9>lot because you've got a lot of voters out there

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<v Speaker 9>that are coming off the labor pith, you know, and

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<v Speaker 9>they're not sure which way they're going to go there.

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<v Speaker 9>They're sort of not have what they're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>they've been shaken out of the tree, but they're not

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<v Speaker 9>exactly sure where they're going to run yet. So labor's

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<v Speaker 9>facing threats, yes, to the libbus, but also you know,

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<v Speaker 9>if there's good independent campaigns and those sorts of things

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<v Speaker 9>in those areas. So I think that's feeding into a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, Michael, what about to this point where we

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<v Speaker 2>read opinion polling about what's happening in Victoria that people

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<v Speaker 2>just don't listen to the government anymore. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's that stage. What are the signs to you

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<v Speaker 2>that Australians aren't listening that. Yes, there are some people

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<v Speaker 2>that have been shaken out of its tree, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones who go, you know what, every time

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<v Speaker 2>I see insert politician, most likely the Prime Minister in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, say you know what, I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care what he offers me. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear him.

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<v Speaker 10>So the globalsitegeist has changed and Albanese he's caught in

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<v Speaker 10>this terrible situation where he is. For his whole life,

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<v Speaker 10>he's been part of the hard left, the extreme left

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<v Speaker 10>in Australian politics, and people are getting to know that.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean October twenty three he comes up with his

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<v Speaker 10>extremest referendum to change our constitution, to divide the nation

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<v Speaker 10>by race forever. So from that day onwards, his polls

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<v Speaker 10>have slipped right. There's a global movement against left politics

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<v Speaker 10>for all the reasons We know this is hitting Albaneze

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<v Speaker 10>hard and I don't know what he can do to

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<v Speaker 10>turn it around. I'm not sure he can do much.

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<v Speaker 10>People in the outer servers have just decided this guy's

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<v Speaker 10>priority was half a billion dollars on the voice, massive

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<v Speaker 10>government spending, which they know increases inflation, failing to protect

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<v Speaker 10>Jewish Australians from this shocking, disgusting antisemitism we've seen in

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<v Speaker 10>this country.

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<v Speaker 3>We see more anarchy in our.

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<v Speaker 10>Streets, against synagogues, against childcare centers, against Jewish homes. They're

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<v Speaker 10>working middle class, the middle class, the swinging voters who've

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<v Speaker 10>been with labor look at this and think this guy

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<v Speaker 10>has completely lost control of this country, and there to

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<v Speaker 10>vote against him in droves. And you know, as you know, Mat,

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<v Speaker 10>I've been saying for months, Dutton's on seventy two. Dutton

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<v Speaker 10>could well win in his own right.

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<v Speaker 2>At this stage that would require the total blowout of

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals. And I really don't want to have till

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<v Speaker 2>talk every Sunday night, But where do you see that happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>And then Simon a response to what Michael might be suggesting,

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<v Speaker 2>he because I know you guys have got down into

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the seats as well, Michael, take us from

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two to seventy six.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I've included the Western Australian Teal as a Liberal seat.

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 10>It's only one in a bit percent, so we'll we'll

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 10>win that and two others in Western Australia. I think

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 10>went Worth on a knife edge for a Leegra spender.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 10>The Liberals could well win that back. There's a very

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 10>significant Jewish population and all the to or two of

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 10>credits she's been supportive.

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not no.

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.479
<v Speaker 10>One's as supportive as Peter Dutton has been. And in

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 10>times of enormous crisis like this, you go those who've

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 10>loved you longest, and that's the coalition going right back

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 10>to Mensies, particularly through the powered period on recent time

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 10>when he and Downer and Costello were always supporting Israel,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 10>the United Nations in Victoria. Look the labor votes collapsing

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 10>in Victoria, partly to do with Albo, but mainly because

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 10>of the massive unpopularity of the state labor government here.

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 10>People have just had enough Daniel Andrews, he brought two

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 10>elections in eighteen and twenty two. He's bankrupted the state.

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 10>People have had enough of just Cindre alland Labor are

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 10>going to dub her. They're just over the Labor Party here. Now,

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 10>the Teal vote in Couyong and Goldstein was held up

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 10>by the Labor Party people strategically switching their vote from

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 10>Labor to the Teals. Yes, I wonder whether there isn't

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 10>a lot of significant bio remorse they're thinking we've swop

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 10>Josh Fredenberg for Monique Ryan and Tim Wilson for the

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 10>Teal there. So I think the Teal's now in trouble

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 10>in those two seats as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Simon, when we went through the Resolve

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>poll last week, particularly on preferred Prime Minister, the blowout

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>is Queensland, but close to a blowout is New South

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Wales and a very clear lead is in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>You put out some polling towards the end of last

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<v Speaker 2>year where there was a whole collection at fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>On the best possible night.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Michael going to have, you know, predictions that all

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<v Speaker 2>go well or is the reality that you know there's

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>there's a certain window we can't see at the moment.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the election is going to be decided in New

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 9>South Wales and Victoria. Yep, Libbs could pick up a

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 9>couple of seats in Wa, but it's only a couple

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 9>of that you're going to make up the eighteen seats.

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.479
<v Speaker 9>So you need numbers. You need those big numbers. Those

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 9>big numbers are in New South Wales and Victoria. They're

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 9>not in the tail seats. Our polling is consistently showing

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 9>that the teal's largely holding your own. Now that said,

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 9>you could pick up a curtain or something like that,

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 9>but equally you could lose a brad Field, so there

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 9>could be this sort of swapping and changing. The other

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 9>thing that sort of bolsters the till vote is demographic change.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 9>These electorates are highly mobile elector and there was young

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 9>people pouring into those electorates all the time, tens of thousands.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 9>So you know, I think you know the idea that

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<v Speaker 9>even if sort of there is this by remorse, I

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 9>think that demographic story holds up the teals in most

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 9>of those seats where it's Wentworth or Kuyong or Goldstein.

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 9>But that's there could be one or two that go,

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 9>but I think you'd probably get one or two that

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 9>swap in and out. But yeah, the big story, the

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 9>big focus has got to be picking up big numbers

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 9>of seats in Western Sydney, in the Hunter in the

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 9>outer northern Western and even the eastern suburbs of Melbourne.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 9>That's there the places to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you can.

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<v Speaker 2>You can start literally from the south coast at Gilmore

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>through the Benlong to really easy ones in and around

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>about a thousand votes changing. And then of course as

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 2>you go further up the pendulumin in different places.

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And remember things can be confusing too.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Where remember in the Queensland election, right clear majority get

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>rid of the previous government, but the most marginal seat

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>in the entire state was held by the Labour Party

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 2>was Bunderberg and they held on to the seat. They

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>lost ones that theoretically were harder to change. So when

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you start looking at pendulums and all the rest of it,

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>there's many factors behind it. I wanted to talk to

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>both of you about the Prime Minister and this idea

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>about Okay, every pole you look at, he's below water

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 2>on an indicy somewhere, but particularly significant things in and

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>around you know, his leadership or even as I said,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>some of these preferred prime minister things. The start of

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the year, the Lucy Goosey just before everyone comes back time,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the time to say, you know what, you're right,

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I got this wrong. But he's decided to say, no,

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 2>that's just the media talking about it.

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Simon.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 2>If the Prime minister did adopt a process not of

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and listing every mistake he made on every day,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>but owning a mistake more honestly, do you think that

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 2>that reopens the door for some soft voters.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the first challenge is there, You've got to

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<v Speaker 9>get a politician to acknowledge.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>They may yea, yeah, yeah, yah, yeah. I realized that.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, absolutely, and I think you sort of you mentioned

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 9>this in your intro. I think one of the things

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 9>so that the informational landscape has changed around politics. It

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 9>used to be that, you know, you're political information was

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 9>mediated by the meta and all these sorts of things,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 9>and even if you wanted to switch off from it,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 9>it was difficult because it was always there the six

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 9>o'clock and use those sorts of things. That is no

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 9>longer the landscape we are in. We're in a landscape

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 9>now where politicians have to compete for attention because you've

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 9>got social media. People create their own new speeds, et cetera,

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 9>et cetera. So you need to cut through. And yes,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 9>that is hugely about what you've got to say, but

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 9>it is also very much about how you say it.

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 9>And you know, we hear it in the focus groups

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 9>all the time that you know, politicians that sound like politicians,

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 9>we just zone out.

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Now. When people say they zone.

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<v Speaker 9>Out, now, that literally means they stopped the video, they

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 9>click on another link and open something else. They completely

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 9>stopped listening. It's not like the sort of sitting on

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 9>I'm just zoning out while I'm watching this piece, this

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 9>article on the news, but I'm kind of taking it

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 9>in it there. Really it's in the background, that's not

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 9>even happening. So I think absolutely, I think all politicians

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 9>need to think about how they communicate, to cut through

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 9>and differentiate themselves from these sort of SoundBite, rehearsed kind

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 9>of kind of political lines.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, do I saylief if like a doctor

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>pimple popper turns up on your Instagram feed, you go, no,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>that's just that's some people are going to be like

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 2>that about politics. And the more they do that, then

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the less of it's going to appear, and the fewer

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>people they get to so last one here, Michael is

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>The Labor Party seems to believe get Dutton is some

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>magical strategy that eventually if we can all point at

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton like the balls on Jim Chalmers to say, oh,

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>if you vote for Peter Dunton, everything gets worse. When

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>they were the ones that promised three years ago vote

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>for us, everything gets better, and everything did get worse.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I know this must work the act.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I know this must work in the corridor as a

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 2>radio national but it doesn't work in the real world.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 10>No, but it doesn't. And they've been trying this for

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 10>two years. They don't forget, and does numbers keep getting stronger.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 10>I mean attacking the opposition leader is not a substitute

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 10>for explaining your second term agender and giving people a

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 10>really strong reason to vote for you. I mean it's

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 10>you know, Dutton wasn't all that popular in Victoria before

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 10>he became leader. Now people are, as they call it,

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 10>Dutton curious and a lot of people now respect him.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 10>Don't forget, don't forget. It's not in Federally, it's far

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 10>more important to be respected than popular. No one ever

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 10>liked Malcolm Fraser but he's got the two biggest majorities ever.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 10>John Howard was told not to bother at eighteen percent,

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 10>et cetera, et cetera. The other thing, so attacking Dutton

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 10>is not going to work.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to work.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 10>It's failed for two years eventhing albaneze he's tried for

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 10>the last six or eight months.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 3>The reset has failed.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 10>The other thing I should mention that's working badly against

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 10>labor here in Victoria, or these Palestinian demonstrations and this

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 10>Australia DAID demonstration today. So people are going to pick

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 10>up people in the outer servers are going to pick

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 10>up the paper tomorrow and read that at this demonstration

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 10>today where the Palestinian extremists got together with these you know,

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 10>the many of whom hate Australia, you know, demonstrations against

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 10>Australia day. The speakers of this demonstration today described the

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 10>police as racists, people who are attending the tennis tonight

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 10>as fascists. What and then if you think that's bad enough,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 10>you think that's bad enough. One of the speakers got

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 10>up and said the government is trying to make Aboriginal

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 10>people extinct. In other words, one of those extremists got

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 10>up and basically said, Alberanzi is trying to kill the Aboriginal,

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 10>murder of the Aboriginal population.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>These people are on another planet.

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 10>And you know, rightly or wrongly, Albanesi, because he's associated

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 10>with the hard left of Australian politicis has said, as

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 10>he always has been, in the hard left of the

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 10>Labor Party. People sort of consider Albanizi a fellow traveler.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 10>The voters down here sort of see Albanezy, as you know,

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 10>a fellow traveler of these leftists, because that's the way

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 10>he's always been. He's been incredibly weak on Israeli, He's

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 10>been incredibly weak on the Jewish community. So they're suffering

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 10>a lot down here because of these extremist demonstrations. They

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 10>are not helping Labor in the marginal seats at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, lads, let us reconvene again next week. I

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>do appreciate it. Enjoy Wodonga, enjoy Melbourne, love it to

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>see you both. Will see you all again very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break back with more plenty to fire

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>up about for the rest of the show. No snow

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<v Speaker 2>left is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get right into it.

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<v Speaker 2>With a great James ashby Gary Hardgrave, bold predictions for

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the week ahead.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And a big dose of Trump more than a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for watching.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm a little bit not often the game,

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but you can just tell that it's a public holiday

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>vibe happening.

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is because last night I was in Brisbane for Luke Combs,

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<v Speaker 2>the American country music superstar, who is the first country

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>artist to ever sell out Suncorp Stadium. Tens of thousands

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>of people, not a ticket anywhere in town. Country was

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>cool and everyone sort of Texas style, was getting around

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in their boots, in their hats. Brisbane was taken over

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>by those of us that don't mind a bit of

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>country music.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, a couple of things.

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>If you run a radio station, can you play some

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>of his music on the radio?

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Chris Stapleton's as well. It's basically rock music. Find a

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>way to get it on. There's a football stadium.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Of people by the way, two nights, so one hundred

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand people who would like to hear it.

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And God love it.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Just not Cold Chisel for the five hundred and eighty

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>third time this year. As for Australian country music, the

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>ten Worth Country Music Festival come into a close and

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Troy cassa Daily has yet again been honored.

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>For his incredible work latest album.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>He's now got forty five of those beautiful golden guitars.

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Gary Hardgrave legend Australian broadcasting. I'm sure if he just

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>had access to a radio show, would just play nothing

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>but country music if you'd liked.

0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It at the top of each hour. But we'll have

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to find out tomorrow, won't we on four BC and.

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>The wonderful James Ashby of course joining us from Napoon

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>where half of the people in the stadium came from

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>last night. Gary, Brisbane was a country music town this weekend.

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and half of four b c's staff actually went

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to Luke Coomb's over the last couple of nights. Mate.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>So we played a little bit on Friday previewing the program,

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>and I think we found Brisbane's greatest Luke Coombs actually

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 3>amongst the four b C family. Yeah, a fair chance.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>We'll have to reprise a bit of that toimemorrow and

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 3>amongst all of the great talk about Australia day my.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Oth ll right, you can hear it tomorrow from three o'clock.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Good to see the Australian flag behind you.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Not not the traditional ballfaest about Australian Day, but about

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>what you saw today, James.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>What did you see in and around Now I'm not

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about what the.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Local council did, but did you see flag on the

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>back of a jet ski? Did you see sort of

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, a slightly more people in the park. How

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>did you see it being celebrated?

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, I had three flags up this Australia. They won

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 4>on the on the.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 11>Aerial of the car, one on the front veranda and

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 11>one on the flag pole itself. So and I agree

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.439
<v Speaker 11>with you what you said, Paul. Go and buy a

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 11>flag pole on eBay. There are hundred bucks and they

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 11>take fifteen minutes to set with.

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 4>A bag of concrete.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 11>So just go and do it, and go and ask

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 11>your local politician for a free flag.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 4>They love it when you do that. By the way,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 4>they've got budgets.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 3>That dominate it for it.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>That's a very good, actually great day.

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they do.

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 11>They've got huge budgets for it. So especially the lower

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 11>House members, we had a great day. Cheryl Kempton's our

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 11>candidate for Capricorny and she hosts a fantastic Australia Day

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 11>with myself and about sixty other people here. So yeah,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 11>Livingston put it on this year as a shier council.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 11>I'm proud of them for doing it, not backing your way.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, terrific day. And yes there were a hell

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 11>of a lot of Australian flags out.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again you know, I'm trying to avoid the

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the I word and I debate, but gary to what

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I was observing about some of the signs right now. Again,

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 2>people in a free society, you can march against what

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you believe to be an injustice.

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>What you believe to be is the majority that's in

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the wrong. But great, I'm all up for it. That's

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the joy of the free country. Right.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>But when you start to see that the colony will fall,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>abolish the day to the colony, there's something for some

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>of these people that is not.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>About this day and this nation.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a wider attempt to pull down the Western world

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>brick by brick, isn't.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 3>It absolutely Paul? And let me tell you the federal

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>member for Ryan, the Greens member won't give out Australian flags,

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 3>refuses to do it donates money to some local kitchen,

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 3>for instance, and it's disgusting. And look, if we're going

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 3>to have flag envy, James, we had three or four

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 3>flying at our place too. We've got a flagpole, have

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 3>been out front for years and I've put it up

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 3>every day because it's important. We fly it and wrap

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.959
<v Speaker 3>it down to half staff on important days. But Paul,

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you're right, this is not about This is not about

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 3>having a go at Australia Day, which of course is

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 3>an important day to half our population. They've sworn Australian

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>citizenship or their parents did on this day. You know

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>that That's really what it's about now, the future, not

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 3>just the past. But these people want to destroy our country.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>They don't like our country, they don't want the flag flying,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 3>they don't want Australia Day celebrated, because they don't want

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 3>us to be a country. And the people like I

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>saw an Upper House member in Victoria that was celebrating

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>some former Australian of the Year who wore a profanity

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 3>on a T shirt. I actually think that's going to

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 3>sink Alban easy. The fact that he actually allowed that

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>at his home, at his Sydney home, we fund on

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the Australian of the Year day. Look, Paul, the sentiment

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 3>in Australia is very strong for this country. I think

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 3>they're looking at what's happening in America and say, you

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 3>know what, Australia First, all about Australia. Let's talk about

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 3>how do we make Australia great again? How do we

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>make elbow go away? I actually think it's real. I

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 3>think it's right here. And I spent an entire last

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>twelve months boycotting Woolworths because they failed to commemorate it

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.919
<v Speaker 3>and any other company that thinks that it's a great

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 3>idea to pour scorn on the majority of us, if

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 3>not just about every one of us over Australia. Day

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 3>they're the visive, they're not happy with Australia. Then they

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 3>can go. There's planes leaving almost every hour for another country.

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>See ya later.

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's talk about what some people would like to see,

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>which is, you know a little bit of a little

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>bit of Trump dust in and around this election campaign.

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>That'd be good.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>And certainly just enterprise is going to be a weapon

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>going after a financial waste. All the rest of it,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>perhaps not the full Doge but she is going to

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>be somebody who remember when it was the specificity of

0:38:54.680 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>the referendum and the specificity of that debate, she was believable.

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>The nature of a previous shadow ministry meant that effectively

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that was her focus, you know, essentially what previously had

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>been called government waste or anything like that, much broader

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>capacity to go after many other things in the governments.

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>So very clever moved there from Peter Dutton. But James,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>let's not ignore the elephants in the room here in

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the day since Trump became the president, it was we're

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>staying in Paris. Since Trump became president, Dutton says, you know,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 2>he's not going to buy into to the gender game.

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>So it is going to be if it is Trump dust,

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be Trump dust, not a big dose

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of Donald across our election.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 11>No, Peter Dutton lacks the persona of a Donald Trump.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 11>So he's not the Donald Trump that people are hoping for.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 11>I know there's a lot of people.

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Out there expecting big things out of Dutton. He's a

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 4>nice guy.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 11>He's the better of two evils when it comes to

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 11>who's going to run this country after this next federal election.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 11>But we're going to see big, bold statements and moves

0:39:58.840 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 11>from the opposition.

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 3>No we're not.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 11>And when it comes to Australia's very own Department of

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 11>Government efficiency, that is not going to happen either.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's probably one hundred billion.

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 11>Dollars worth of savings that really could be carved up

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 11>on a federal level. When you consider the duplication in

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 11>departments on a federal and state level, what is the

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 11>point of duplication, You've got to ask, Well, I think

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 11>a lot of it comes down to the fact that,

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 11>you know, the labor government over so long now have

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 11>just been creating jobs out of thin air for the

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 11>sake of employment purposes, and it's hard to get rid

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 11>of them. And no one's got the courage to say

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 11>we're going to take a red Niko and just slash

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 11>and burn some of these departments, especially when you have

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 11>a look at departments like the Department of Environment. Every

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 11>state have their own Department of Environment and yet we've

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 11>got this second overlay federally. Why doesn't Dalton take a

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 11>bold move, which is centerprice, and say, bugger it, we're

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 11>putting a red pen through it. We'll save ourselves thirty

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 11>billion dollars, Indigenous affairs. Every state's got indigenous representation. Why

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 11>do we need a duplication on a federal level?

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Education?

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 11>Health, all those things we could put a marker through.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 11>But I don't think we're going to see the bold,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 11>decisive response that we see in America happening right now

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 11>from someone like Peter Dutton. I wish you all the best, because,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 11>let me face it right now, a Peter Dutton government

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 11>with the Coalition is a hell of a lot better

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.280
<v Speaker 11>than a second term Albanesi government.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 4>And I'll point this one thing out to you, Paul.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 4>It was pointed out to me today.

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 11>The only thing that Anthony Alberzi has lived up to

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 11>is transparency, because we can see right through him now.

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Very well said, very well said.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way, newspol has just dropped the first one

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 2>of the year shows the Coalition up fifty one forty nine.

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It shows that the preferred prime minister remains Anthony Abernezi. However,

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton is up three. That is now forty four

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to forty one, and fifty three percent of people across

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the entire regardless of whom they are planning to vote for,

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>expect the Libs to win the upcoming election. There'll be

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 2>plenty more to dig in there. We'll get into it

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>as the day rolls on, but before everyone else pretends

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>that they're.

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>The ones who saw it first. Yeah, we just saw

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it come up on the Australians.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Website, which is why Sunday Night's for the diehards.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It's for the hard course.

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>B here, get in first and turn up tomorrow and

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 2>morning go yeah I heard that Tomorrow night. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I've seen that because we saw it with Sunday Night with.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Paul First Quick breakback. We're more here on Paul Murray Lofe.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for watching Royal Report in a few minutes,

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>James Ashby with One Nation, Gary Hardgrave with the Wonderful

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Lady of four BC, and are popping up regularly here on.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Scott News as well.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll get your reaction to that news pole that pops

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 2>because there's a couple of things there. Albanezi holds as

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>preferred Prime Minister, different than the polls that showed that

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>he was underwater in Nissoba's Queens and Victoria. You heard

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>before with Simon talking about particularly Nissoba's Victoria having the

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>seats to decide all of this, but then you see

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the other things here where the Libs in front when

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 2>it comes to primary, in front when it comes to

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>two pp. But the perception issue now too, James. If

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the majority of people think you are going to win,

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 2>does that tell you that they're going to or just

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 2>that an assumption is there and it's up to the

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Libs not to bank that. You've got to pretend that

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 2>it's the other way around and fight fight.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.320
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Look, anything can change over a twelve week period.

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 11>You know, slip ups are inevitable over the next couple

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 11>of months, and it's how the opposition or the Prime

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 11>Minister deals with them. It's not going to be easy

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 11>for either side to win government in their own right.

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 11>And I think this is the message that's starting to

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 11>break through to a lot of voters, is that okay,

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 11>if they're not going to govern in their own right,

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 11>who is going to help them govern?

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 4>And do we want the Greens to help them govern?

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 11>Or do we want one nation for parties of conservative

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 11>values to get behind, like a coalition government for example.

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 11>So look, I would say to all conservative parties, particularly

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 11>to that of Peter Dutton, now is not the time

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 11>to take the foot off the accelerator. When it comes

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 11>to giving it your all, it needs to go right

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 11>down to the wire here and there are a lot

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 11>of armchair critics at home, whether it be this program

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 11>or others. If you are so hell bent on giving

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 11>your advice and making sure that we get the right

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 11>outcomes for this country, one day, just one day this year,

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 11>can you just give up one day of your life

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 11>to go and implement change that is volunteering to hand

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 11>out for whatever party it might be.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 4>It can be one nation, could.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 11>Could be another one, but go and hand out how

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 11>to vote cards and bring about the change that this

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 11>country needs, because without your help, people sadly are not

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 11>understanding how they need to implement change through the power

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:46.919
<v Speaker 11>of the ballot box.

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Gary, your advice to the people who

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.959
<v Speaker 2>are goingo we've won when they haven't and they could

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>end up going backwards because that's the way elections go.

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, you're always one vote short. You've got to

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 3>always go and talk to people about the stuff that's important.

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And you want to talk about government efficiency, how about

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 3>a proposal that rids Australia's politics of public servants running

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 3>departments who are paid twice what ministers are paid. We've

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>got million dollar mandarins all over this country and if

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you want to save some real money, and James's idea

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<v Speaker 3>of cutting that duplication is a valid idea. But Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Australians will be turned onto the idea that

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<v Speaker 3>people are on a million dollars a year first in

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<v Speaker 3>line to get the orders of Australia. They travel at

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<v Speaker 3>the highest class, if not first class, business class, all

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<v Speaker 3>around the world. They get the best seats at Olympics

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<v Speaker 3>and other events like that, and they get paid a

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<v Speaker 3>wage bigger than their boss, who's the minister, who, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way of course works for us. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to actually have a look at the way

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<v Speaker 3>in which we lower the cost of government, get government

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<v Speaker 3>out of our lives, and you can sprinkle the Trump dust.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton is not Donald Trump. Australia is not America.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't tell the world to go float their boats

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else over Paris simply because we can't sell goods

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<v Speaker 3>overseas because everyone, you know, box ticks on whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not we're doing something about whatever global emissions and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>else is going on. But Paul, we can stand on

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<v Speaker 3>our own two feet demand that our public sector is

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<v Speaker 3>started by people doing the job, not those who are

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<v Speaker 3>hiring consultants and setting themselves up for a career after

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<v Speaker 3>their million dollar manda in time comes to an end.

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<v Speaker 3>I think these are things that everyday Australians will relate

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<v Speaker 3>to and labor have set up these enormous consultancy businesses

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<v Speaker 3>within government, they really have, by the way in which

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<v Speaker 3>they've hired so many of them. So I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of good, good gris out there, and James's

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<v Speaker 3>right pedal to the metal, keep going, Peter Dutton, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, I think it'd be good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how Trump sort of did you know, Golf

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<v Speaker 2>of Mexico's now Golf of America. You know, somebody's got

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<v Speaker 2>to come out and say, you know, Golf of Carpenterrier gone,

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<v Speaker 2>Golf of Peter Brook. That's what it'll be called into

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<v Speaker 2>the future. We'll all find out whether it is votes

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<v Speaker 2>the name that came to mind as I was working out,

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<v Speaker 2>how will that be misinterpreted by the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a purist, like, we're here for the content for

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<v Speaker 1>media watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only we pay your wage, we'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>content as well, all right, lad's a story about napping

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<v Speaker 2>and power napping apparently great for your cognitive function blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, but apparently the amount of time that you

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<v Speaker 2>should spend if you want the power n app not

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, not forty five ten, just ten minutes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. That's not a power n app. That's waking

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<v Speaker 2>up while you're on a plane. Like I say, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have a nap, it's three hours thoughts, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, for me, I took on this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, a few beers in that hot sun, and I

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<v Speaker 11>was out like a light on the couch this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm with you, Paul, I think it was just

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<v Speaker 4>shire three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying, A nice solid three hour.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Australian siesta. I'm fine with that, Gary. Plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of people have had it. And you know what, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like you've lived two days in one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I got so much power in James as

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<v Speaker 3>isn't there for a three hour naps with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Paul?

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<v Speaker 3>That look? Mate? Ten minutes does it? Sometimes? Twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty good, forty minutes is frightening, but two hours

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<v Speaker 3>actually puts you into the wrong rhythm of some technical thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But mate, I look cests work in so much of Europe,

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest economies in the world enjoys. Yes, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why we don't do the same thing. But you

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<v Speaker 3>have to start work at six in the morning, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and finished at ten o'clock. I no.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably. Also, I think the downside.

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<v Speaker 2>To what James was saying before about the three hour nap,

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<v Speaker 2>it's normally beers or burnout or a combination of both.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be a significant part of how you

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<v Speaker 1>get there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly the case for many people around Australia. Lads,

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate it. We'll listen to you on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio tomorrow. Gary, will see you on the Telly many

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<v Speaker 2>times this week, Jakib obviously most importantly here next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is our show tonight. If you want to send

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<v Speaker 2>me an email, Paul, it's gone news dot com dot

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<v Speaker 2>Are you back tomorrow for another big one? See you then.