1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I'll get a team. Welcome to another installment, the new project. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: I almost forgot the name of mind Joe hang on, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: let me just check. Yep, do you hang on? Let 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: me just look it up again. Capital T what yep? 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: You project? Hi TIV, my harps. I'm stumbling towards Christian. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: I'm getting my words muddled, My mort's waddled. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: Your brain's clocked off, your brain's gone on holidays. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: It can't clock off. You know why I can't clock off? Well, one, 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: it's twelve thirty six and I've got a forty five 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: minutes or so. Do you chat to you and the 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: lovely doctor Lillian. But then it's fifteen hundred, which is 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: two and a half hours away. I've got like a 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: really big UNI meeting with all my supervisors, and I'm 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: very I'm very scared. I'm thinking of taking some kind 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: of stimulant ten minutes beforehand. Can you two recommend anything? Lilian, 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: got anything that I can take that's going to improve 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: my IQ by about thirty points? 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: No, Well, take some responsibility and just deal with it. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: Fuck in the hell. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 5: Such a good stimulant A dice of responsibility for you? 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, take a cup of hardened the fuck up hops 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: she's on fight today, I. 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: Think to doctor Lilliam even more than normal. 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what have you got planned for Chrissy? 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: Doc? 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: We are that's the twentieth that's Frauday, so with five 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: days out, but we're going to talk about chrisy. But 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: is it a big deal in your family or do 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: you just sil through it quietly? 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: No, it's always been a big deal in our family 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: and in Australia. This year, I actually have my mother here, 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 3: so she's come from the States. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: Oh awesome. And is she here already? 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been here for almost three weeks since she'll 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: be here for another. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: Three And what is she Has she been here before? 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been This is her ninth time. Oh wow, Wow, 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: I've been here for thirty years. Did you know? 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 5: Wow? 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: That is a long time, and you've lost none of 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: that accent? 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: I know. I know people still ask like when I 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: moved and when I like, I don't usually say thirty years. 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: I usually like a really long time. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, it's been a minute. It's been 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: a minute. 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: But they're like, oh, it sounds like you just got here. 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, it's actually really hard to imitate the 49 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Australian accent. I don't know if well, you probably know 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: that because a lot of actors try to do it 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: and they can't. Uh, and I definitely cannot it either. 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of really good Hollywood actors 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: and famous actors are terrible at doing Some do, some can. 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: Pull it off, but yeah, very few. 55 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: I've never heard any that that sound completely Australian, like 56 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't pick it. Whereas like we grow up around 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: American accents. I've probably heard more American accents definitely on 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: television than Australian when I was growing up because all 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: the all the comedies I watched, all this, you know, 60 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: all the kind of series that. 61 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: I watched, were I never watched. 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm probably quite unpatriotic in that I've never watched one 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: episode of Neighbors or what's the other one, really, Home 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: and Away. I don't know why I never watched, do 65 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: you know what. I've tried quite a few casts members 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and now quite a few, and I've never watched one episode. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: So that is hilarious. You know, at the first show 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: I ever saw that was an Australian show was Home 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: and Away. I was actually in London. Yeah, and it 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 3: was like in a like university kind of boarding house. 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: We were just there for like a month and the 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: only thing on TV like people were watching in like 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: the main room was Home and Away And my friends 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: and I were like, what is this show? And we 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: just we just thought it was really funny because the 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: soap operas in the US are like very dramatic and 77 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: like unrealistic and like, you know, just crazy stuff happens. 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: But in Home and Away it's like I'm moving out 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: of my house. I'm going to show like you know, 80 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: like it was just very like regular life stuff. 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I got a new pair of socks. What 82 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: do you think of my socks? 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: Great, what do you think of my socks? That's awesome? 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: Are now an ad And the theme. 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: Song was great too. We memorize the theme song. We 87 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: were like really into it. 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: We were talking this is probably not what we're going 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: to talk about, but we'll talk the other day. 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: All the boys in the gym about all the all 91 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: the shows we grew up watching in the sixties, seventies 92 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: and eighties, and all the youngies are like, no idea 93 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Like, you know, what do you mean, 94 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: you don't know what Gilligan's Island is or The Brady 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Bunch is or Bewitched or I Dream a Jennie. 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: Or come on, oh, I know. It's so sad, Oh 97 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: my god, because even though those were like slightly before 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: our time, even there were always reruns of those shows, 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: so you knew those shows like Back and Back in Front, 100 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: like yeah, and then you know they don't watch TV anymore. 101 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: That's why. 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: Well that's true. TV is dying. 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: So traditional media, as the youngies call it, traditional media, 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: normal radio, you know FREDDA in normal FMAM radio, and 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: old school television. Yeah, it's definitely on the decline. And 106 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: you're right. Kids basically watch everything on their phone or 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: on you know, their laptop or their tablet or whatever. 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 109 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: And the thing is, because of the advent of things 110 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: like TikTok, they don't even watch an entire episode, but 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: they'll know about what's going on in a show from 112 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: like little snippets of the main things that people put up. 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 114 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've actually because I've always loved television and 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: movies and all sorts of stuff like that, So I 116 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: we've always engaged our children in entertainment of that kind. 117 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: And we've always had like family television show that either 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: all of us watch together or like two of us watch. Yeah, 119 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: And my daughter and I watched, for instance, the whole 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: series of The Gilmore Girls together, which is it's such 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: a mother daughter type of show. So it was like, 122 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: but it's fun, it's very pop cultury, and it was 123 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: really cool for me to watch it with her. And 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: now we're watching a real, like a ninety show, The OC. 125 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, And. 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: I never watched when it was out, so I'm watching 127 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: it fresh as well. So it's just fun to just pick, 128 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't have to be like I don't know, 129 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what I think of the OC. It's 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: entertaining enough. It's our show. We know when we have time, 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: we're going to watch that show together until it's over, 132 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: and then we'll pick another show. 133 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: You told me about The Gilmore Girls a couple of 134 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: years ago, and I know everybody would go, oh my god, 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: to get I watched a couple of episodes. 136 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest. It wasn't terrible. 137 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: It was great. 138 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible, but it's like old. It's like started 139 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Now look at TIFFs Sperky. I don't 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: mind a bit of the Gilmore Girls, Tiff. I don't 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: mind a little bit of do you know what I like? 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: I like watching stuff that doesn't make me think particularly hard. 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel anxious because there's it's fucking 144 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: horror and blood and people getting chopped up down now 145 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and you know, violence, And I don't mind a bit 146 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: of like silly violence, but stuff that actually I come 147 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: away from it feeling worse than when I sat down. 148 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: To watch it, you know what I mean? Yeah, what's 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: the point. It's like movies where you go and pay thirty. 150 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Bucks or whatever you pay these days, and you sit 151 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: there and you be anxious for two hours. 152 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: You're like, why the fuck do I do that to myself? 153 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think that could be fun. A lot 154 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: of people think that's fine. I don't mind a little 155 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: bit of like suspense or mystery. I don't want to 156 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: see horror or like real life crime. Stuff like that 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: doesn't interest me at all. Like you said, why do 158 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: I want to expose myself to that? I want to 159 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: be entertained and get something out of it. But a 160 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: drama every once in a while, having a good crime 161 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 3: front of the TV. Sometimes that's cathartic as well. 162 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: I do that. 163 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I get done on Instagram with the reels, like I 164 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: cry puppies thirteen times a day. And then like, you 165 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: know what else makes me cry? War veterans coming home, 166 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: moms and dads to their kids and they walk into 167 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the classroom. Yeah, and then there's this you know, this 168 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: mum or dad in all their bloody army or their 169 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, marine garb, and then the little kid. 170 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: Just that's it. I'm out fast. 171 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful, like a bit baby. 172 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey, I don't want to go over something we've spoken 173 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: about too much on this show, but just quickly I 174 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: wanted to touch on something that David Gillespie, who's a regular 175 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: on here aka Gillesspo, he wrote an article recently based 176 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: on some new research that came out of the Lancet 177 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: and that is that Melbourne has got more anxious and 178 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: depressed teenagers than any other city in the world. And 179 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: so the statistic that's in published in the Lancet Psychiatry 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: is that three out of four, or obviously seventy five 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: percent of Melbourne teenagers are struggling with anxiety or depression 182 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: and obviously it's been linked to tech. 183 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: Is that astounding to you, Well, I mean the stat 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: that teenagers in general are very anxious and anxiety is 185 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: growing among that group is not surprising to me because 186 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: that has been what the research has been saying for 187 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: a while. Yeah, I guess it's surprising to hear that 188 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Melbourne is like at the height of that. I guess 189 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: if you think about technology, I mean, Australia is very forward, 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: like they're early adopters of technology, so potentially we're using 191 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: it more. And if we're going to say, I don't 192 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: know that technology is the only reason, right, but if 193 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: it's one of the main reasons, and the way that 194 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: we use it and how often we use it and 195 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: how social media is used here so prolifically, then potentially 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: it makes sense for teenagers here to have more. But 197 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: I don't know that it would. It must be significantly 198 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: more for that to have been published in the lanset. 199 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: But I think overall, youth anxiety is growing. 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: You think maybe there's also a relationship because we were 201 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know we were the number one, but definitely 202 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: in the top few most locked down cities the longest period. 203 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: I mean, whatever, it was for Yeah, it was like 204 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: almost a year. It was like a yearish where kids 205 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: couldn't be kids essentially, well, they couldn't be normal, you know, 206 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: free range roaming kids. There were cage kids for a year. 207 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: That's going to be especially you know, like if you're 208 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: five years old, that's twenty percent of your life like 209 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: that year. 210 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: It's not even just the fact that children were not 211 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: able to go to school regularly and see their friends regularly, 212 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: but they were also in homes with stressed out parents. 213 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: So you have this kind of you know, exposure to 215 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: anxiety and stress at a level that we've as a 216 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: society haven't even experienced. Yeah, and you couldn't escape it 217 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: because you couldn't go anywhere else. 218 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: Yes. 219 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: And when I think of like some of my clients 220 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: who really struggle, a lot of people didn't struggle. I 221 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: know that a lot of people did, but there were 222 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: there was a segment of the community, we'll say the 223 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: more privileged ones who were like, this is a break 224 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: from going to work and I like hanging out with 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: my family all the time, and you know, they have 226 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: the resources and so they weren't struggling as much. But 227 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: the families who you know already had like fewer resources, 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: already were isolated. Yes, single parents with special needs kids, yeah, 229 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, who count on the support and they can't 230 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: do anything now. And now they're in a home and 231 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: they have to manage children that have challenges, and they 232 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: have to manage their own stress and anxiety. Was it 233 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: was actually an impossible task. So then you're going to 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: have kids that come out of that environment more stressed 235 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: and anxious. 236 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: So I remember a few months I don't know how 237 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: many months in, maybe five or six months in and 238 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen my parents, and autosad it was going 239 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: to draw to the thriving metropolis moll which there was 240 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot of kind of in a ladder, go more 241 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: than five k's from your home and it's going to 242 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: be some spectacular reason and you need to. And I 243 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: just went, you know, and my mum, mom and dad 244 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: have not been great over the last few years with 245 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: various medical issues and dad had a heart attack and 246 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: mums had multiple bouts of cancer and treatment. 247 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, I'm going. And there was. 248 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: About halfway about it, and it's about two hours. So 249 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: at about that one hour mark on Princess Highway or freeway. 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: There were blockades and there were cops everywhere, and I 251 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: had to sit in line for like two kilometers. Then 252 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: I had to basically plead my case with a which 253 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck? Where are we? What is this? 255 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I had to explain who I was, who my parents was, were, 256 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: where they live, Why I'm going there? 257 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: Do I have to go there? 258 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 5: You know? 259 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: And he, I mean, he was he was fine. It 260 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: wasn't he was just doing what he was told to do. 261 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, what is what? 262 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: Where do we live? Now? What is this about? You know? 263 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: And it was such a strange, strange time in our life, 264 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: you know, it was completely unexpected and nobody knew how 265 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: to deal with it properly, and and it was so stressful, 266 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: like you said on that level too, like I couldn't 267 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: go to the States for four years, Yes, yes, you 268 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: know I was. I was trying to go every couple 269 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: of years to see my family over there. My parents 270 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: are getting older too, and you know, like four years 271 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: is a massive block of time to not be able to, 272 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: you know, go and see your loved ones. And I know, 273 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: you know, of course, there were so many people who 274 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: lost people during that time and they didn't get to 275 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: be there for the those final moments, and you know, 276 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: there's so much loss and so much stress and so 277 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: much anxiety that over just that And it was a 278 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: long time. It wasn't like one year one years ago time, 279 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: but like it was like three crazy on and off. 280 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's going to be We're still feeling the 281 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: impact and the effects of that for sure. And yeah, 282 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: I would say that that makes a lot of sense 283 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: in terms of why Melbourne youth might be more impacted 284 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: than others. 285 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: It could be a definitely could be a factor. If 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: what's your this year? What's your I don't know underlying 287 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: emotion around Christmas? Is it excitement? Is it indifference? Is 288 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: it something else? Because I know you're you're staying in 289 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: melts right and you live by yourself with your Fleeline 290 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and kla Canaine family. But how do you feel? Do 291 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: you feel for me? I kind of feel like it's 292 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, but that's just me. 293 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I feel a bit like that, Like I'm 294 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: happy and I'm going to do some cool stuff on 295 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: the day, but I'm not really attached to Christmas. I've 296 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: been having a really good couple of months since coming 297 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: back from a little trip, and so I feel good, 298 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: and yeah, I've got no attachment to the day, but 299 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: I'm making sure that that I do do something because 300 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: if I don't, I've done that before and I get 301 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 5: really sad because you know, there's an energy and a 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: realization that you get up and everyone's with loved ones. 303 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: And I remember doing that once and going, oh, dear, 304 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: no one loves me. 305 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm really sad. Now. It was like, TI, if you 306 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: chose this, yeah, I reckon. 307 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: In the last two weeks, I've said to I don't know, 308 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm making it up, but about twenty people, you know, 309 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: are you excited for Christmas? Or what is it? 310 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: And I would think, I mean, it wasn't half, but 311 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe three or four when not not at all? I 312 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: fucking hate it or I'm dreading it, or I hate 313 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: my sister. I only say it once a year, she's 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a fucking nightmare. Or yeah, there's a I don't know 315 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: what the percentage is, but I would think five percent 316 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: of five ten percent of people really for a range 317 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: of reasons, maybe because they're isolated, or maybe because they 318 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: have to go and spend a day with people that 319 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: don't want to, or maybe because it evokes, you know, 320 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: things that happened or didn't happen in the past, or 321 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: but it seems doc that not everybody associates the twenty 322 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: fifth of December with joyful kind of emotions. 323 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. I think it can 324 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: actually be the worst time of year for a lot 325 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: of people, like you said, for so many different reasons. 326 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of memories attached to Christmas 327 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: as a holiday too and not maybe you know, a 328 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: lot of people's memories of that might not be great, 329 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: you know, in their childhood, so that carries on into 330 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: adulthood as well, and also where you know, different people 331 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: are in different phases of their life, you know, like 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: for our family, we lost my father in law early 333 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: this year, so it's the first Christmas without him, which 334 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: is really different and difficult for the family. For us 335 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: as a family, Christmas is generally a good time of year. 336 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: It's like an excuse to get together and luckily we 337 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: like each other just good, so it's like a nice gathering. 338 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: But like it's going to have that tinge of sadness 339 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: this year for sure, and Yeah, for some people that 340 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: don't have family members to be with, and so it 341 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: is quite isolating and it is hard to see, like 342 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 3: you were saying, Tiffany, it's hard to see like all 343 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: these other people, you know, this is the time where 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: they're gathering with people, they're loved ones, and if that's 345 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: not your experience, you feel like left out, like what 346 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: other people are experiencing. 347 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: How do we mitigate that? Because I feel like we 348 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: and I'm not trying to be. 349 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: Critical of anyone, but it's like, when you think about 350 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: it on a level, on one level, it's Christmas, die, 351 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: it's this, it's that, it's all those things, which is true. 352 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: Also true, it. 353 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: Is Wednesday, it is the day between Tuesday and Thursday, 354 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: and so you know that expectational, that disappointment or that sadness, 355 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: which I'm not saying is unreasonable, but we kind of 356 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: created ourselves. 357 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so, But I guess it's an individual response, right, Yeah. 358 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: But I mean it's a societal holiday in a way. 359 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: Like also, there's a lot of people where Christmas has 360 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: no meaning for them and it isn't their holiday, right, 361 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: So it's not everybody's holiday, that's true, But culturally, like 362 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: places like Australia and the UK and the US culturally 363 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: as a country, they celebrate it. So it's a little 364 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: bit hard to be like, well, I'm creating this situation 365 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: for myself, and it's actually like everywhere, right. You can't 366 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: get away from the music, can't get away from the decoration, 367 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: you can't get away from the wrapping paper. You know, 368 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: you can't. Everyone's wishing everyone to marry Christmas like it's 369 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: it's just like what's done pretty much prolifically at this 370 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: time of year. 371 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 372 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be critical of anyone, but what 373 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking is, well, how do I how do I 374 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: manage me in the middle, Like if this is not 375 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: a great day for me, if I'm not excited, if 376 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: i'm if I know that like rather than me than 377 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: my emotions and feelings and a mental state being dictated 378 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: by what's going on around me, how do I mitigate 379 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: that or change that so that you know, as much 380 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: as I can control my own state or experience, I'm 381 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: doing that. 382 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think because it's predictable, like if you 383 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: know how you experience the holiday, then it is really 384 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: important to plan it for yourself, Like, what is that 385 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: day going to be like for you? I know, my 386 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 3: mother lives in the US, and my brothers live fairly 387 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: close by, but they also have their own immediate families 388 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: and my dad because my parents are divorced, so like 389 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: there's it's spread. It's not like they can just spend 390 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: the whole day with her. So what she did was 391 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: she decided to volunteer that day, so she would go 392 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 3: and do the you know, the food service volunteering, you know, 393 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: in an organization nearby. And that made her feel good 394 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: about the day because she was contributing, yes, and that 395 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: always feels good, as we know, so like things like 396 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: if she knew that that was going to be the 397 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: case for her day, so she organized that for herself. 398 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: And it doesn't always it doesn't have to be that, 399 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: but it could be. You know, how are you going 400 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: to comfort yourself on the day If you know that 401 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: you're going to feel a little bit down and you 402 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: can't necessarily control that feeling, what can you do to 403 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: give yourself comfort and soothing and make it more pleasant 404 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: and improve the moment or the day for yourself? And 405 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: that might be really different for different people, Like it 406 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: might be you know, a movie marathon, or it might 407 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: be you know, doing a day as they say in Australia, 408 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 3: to stay in bed and surround yourself with nice things 409 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: and be comfortable and eat in bed and just you know, 410 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: do what you want. Or it might be like surrounding 411 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 3: yourself with things that are fun or funny, you know, 412 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: just lift your spirits. Yeah, or like watchers or follow 413 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: anti you know holiday or anti Christmas stuff like if 414 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: that's something that will get you out of your punk, 415 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: like whatever works for you. But I agree, like if 416 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: you know that this is a difficult time of year, 417 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: you know that it's not that meaningful for you, you 418 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: know that you might be sad or stressed around that time, 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: then you know, do some planning and prepare yourself. 420 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: You know what I used to do. You don't know this, Tiff. 421 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever shared this on this show, 422 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: but every Christmas. I used to do it at Easter. 423 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I think I've spoken about Easter, but every Christmas for 424 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: about I don't know, ten or twelve years. This is 425 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: when I owned Jim's Lily Inn. I had lots of 426 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: stuff and lots of clients, and I would meet who 427 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: ever wanted to meet me at seven am at the beach, 428 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and they all had to bring twenty bucks and it 429 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: went to a charity. So everyone paid twenty bucks. It 430 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: went to a charity that somebody decided. I didn't even 431 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: get the money. The money didn't go through my hands. 432 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: It went straight to the organization. But we would get 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: sometimes one hundred people, so we'd raised two grand in 434 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: an hour, and it was great and people obviously people 435 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: came dressed up and people had on hats and bloody 436 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: rein deer antlers, and you know, like it was such 437 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: a good thing. And so there was this before the 438 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: day even really started, Like we finished at eight o'clock. 439 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: So there's all these you know, this laughter and all 440 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: this connection and everybody getting a few endorphins and a 441 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: bit of dopamine because they're running around in the sand 442 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: and running some stairs and doing some body weight stuff 443 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and saying hello to a whole bunch of people. And yeah, 444 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: I just remember what an amazing day, or what an amazing. 445 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: Start to the day that was. 446 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: And a lot of people back then, you know, they 447 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: would come to me and say, this is actually the 448 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: best part of my Christmas Day because of the rest 449 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: of the day is not great for me. And they 450 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: really appreciated that. You know, that early morning energy and 451 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: fun and everybody who needed it got a bit of 452 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: a hargt and bit of a high five. 453 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: And do that anymore. 454 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: Idea. That's a great idea. 455 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: I loved it. I would do that now, but you're 456 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: not allowed to. You can't. 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: I can't just meet you know. The funny thing is, 458 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I can't meet a bunch of people at the beach 459 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: in this area where I live and just train them. 460 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: And I get it, you know, it's all that. But 461 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: it was in the old days when you could just 462 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: do that and no one. No one was running around 463 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: going what about the council regulations and what about lawsuits? 464 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: And what about our health and safety and what about 465 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: We're all just fucking running and laughing nobody. Everybody was 466 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: just having a good time. But now we've got to 467 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: fucking bring nine lawyers to the beach with us. 468 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's fucking ridiculous. 469 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: That is a shame. But I think you bring up 470 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: a good point that you know, if we're resourceful, which 471 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: I think is a great skill to have, there are 472 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: lots of ways that you can meet with like minded 473 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: people on the day, like yeah, you know, or even 474 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: online if you don't want to meet people in person, 475 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: there would be I haven't looked into it myself, but 476 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: maybe this is something I should do as well as 477 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: you know, what are the Facebook groups around? What are 478 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: the meetups? You know? Like, what can people actually do 479 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: on the day that is not Christmas focused? Yes, and 480 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: that will you know lift their spirits are just you know, 481 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: like make it a good day, not you know, it's 482 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: just another Wednesday, but it could be a really great Wednesday. 483 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if I I wonder, I'm just wondering, Tiff, 484 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: maybe I could do a six thirty. Can't They can't 485 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: get mad at you for going for a Christmas morning 486 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: walk with one hundred people. 487 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: You just happen to drop down and do I mean, 488 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: you can't stop. 489 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: If people decide to fucking jog through the sand a 490 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: little bit because there are little bit crazy if people 491 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: want to do some some burpies and some wall squats 492 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: and if people fuck I can't I wouldn't suggest it. 493 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: But if people just spontaneously break into exercise, I mean, 494 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: who am I to get in the way. I mean, 495 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it's not a cult or anything. People are free to 496 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: do what they want. 497 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: Wow, so stand. 498 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: By, everybody, stand by. That might happen. That might be announced. 499 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: It may or may not, but it might be announced 500 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: on the you project Facebook page. If you're not a member, 501 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: become a member. But now I wonder it would probably 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: just be you and me, cook, you and me and 503 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: the dog, You, me and Luna. 504 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: Were you're coming second? Then if Luna's going to be 505 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: in the race, I'm coming. 506 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's three of us, you, me, and Luna, 507 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm fucking so far up the back it's embarrassing. 508 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: I love how you're like. Lillian's not going to show up. 509 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: It's too early for her. 510 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: If I do it, will you show up? Probably not exactly, 511 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: exactly exactly arrest arrest my case, too early, it's too early. 512 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: I want to be invited. 513 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not. 514 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Going to invite you if you're not going to turn up. 515 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: So if you're going to turn up, you're invited. If 516 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you just want to be invited because your self esteem 517 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: needs a boost, you're not invited. 518 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: Hey, this whole idea came about because of our conversation. 519 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: So that's true. That's true. I'm going to give that 520 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 4: some thought. 521 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one o three on Friday on the twentieth, 522 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: so it may not happen, but I'm definitely. 523 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Going to give that. I'm definitely going to give that 524 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: some thought. 525 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: So so keep talking to us about this time of 526 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: the year in general. It's not just Christmas, it's New Years, 527 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: it's when people is it a good. 528 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: Time of the year. 529 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not one on news resolutions. Everyone knows, 530 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: but I guess it depends. I guess it depends how 531 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: it's Starnach can work. But you're going, is this a 532 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: good time to reflect and plan or is that kind 533 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: of bullshit? 534 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: Well it can be bullshit. It depends on what you 535 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: do with it. But I feel like when we talk 536 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: about this time of year, the main thing that comes 537 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: up for me and for a lot of people that 538 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm around, is it's really stressful. The end of the 539 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 3: year is stressful, and I think I think there's a 540 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: lot of reasons for that. I always find like just 541 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: before I go on a holiday of any kind, any 542 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: time of year, it's the just before the holiday that's 543 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: the most stressful time because you're trying to tie up 544 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: things so that you are able to take that time 545 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: off and have like, you know, actual rest and relaxation. 546 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about work, which is hard 547 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: when you own your own businesses as well. And so 548 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 3: this is like a big version of that. Right, It's 549 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: like everyone's taking almost everyone is taking at least a couple, 550 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: you know, one or two weeks off at this time 551 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 3: of year. So everyone's kind of trying to tie up 552 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: all their loose ends at the end of the year 553 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: or try to get as much done as humanly possible 554 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: so they can actually have a break and be ready 555 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: for whatever's coming on the other side of that break. 556 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 3: And then the other complicating factor of just being in 557 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: this country, let's say versus where I grew up in 558 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: the US, is it's also the end of the school year. 559 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 3: So if you're a parent, you have that extra layer 560 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: of busyness. There's all like when the kids were in 561 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: primary school, it was like, well, there's a Christmas show 562 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: that everyone has to go to, right, and there's there's 563 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: different parents will have holiday get togethers, and you know, 564 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: their friends will want to get together and all this 565 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: sort of stuff that happened. Also, your kids are little, 566 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: so they you know, if you celebrate Christmas. They're very 567 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: excited about it, and so you try to make it 568 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: really special and get the things that they want and 569 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: you know all of you know, all of that sort 570 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: of stuff that goes into it. And when your kids 571 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: are older, like my kids mine are fifteen and just 572 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: at eighteen and just graduated from high school, maybe then 573 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: you thank you then you have all of that, Like 574 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: all the end of you know, the whole year's stressful 575 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: because they're studying for their you know, exams, and then 576 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: they're waiting for their scores and there's a lot of 577 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: stress associated with that. And then you've got you know, 578 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: their graduation ceremonies, and then they're going to school is 579 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: and you have to worry about that, and then you know, 580 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: they have their dinners and so there's just so much 581 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: happening at this time of year. I think it can 582 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: be a really stressful time for people, and then you 583 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: kind of lose that spirit. Even if you had the 584 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: spirit for the holidays, yeah, you can't get there because 585 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: it takes so long to unwind from that stress that 586 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: you're not quite there yet on Christmas Day if you 587 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: want to be. 588 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why I haven't really thought of this, 589 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: but it just dawned on me because I'm an idiot 590 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: and I'm a bit slow, but it dawned on me that, oh, yeah, 591 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: you guys don't have summer holidays when we do, obviously, 592 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: but so how like Christmas New Year over here, like 593 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of like school is basically off for two months, 594 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: give will take. How long do they have off school 595 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: in the States at this time of year. 596 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: Probably a couple of weeks, right, yeah. 597 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: And then they have like two months is ish through 598 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: summer our winter. 599 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Well, when I was younger, it was like three three 600 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: and a half months, And in fact, it worked better 601 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: that way because there was no holiday to break up 602 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: that time, so it was like this long, slow, beautiful 603 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: summer holiday. Whereas what happens here is school that's out. 604 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: Everyone's in a rush to get everything sorted just before Christmas, 605 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: and then the holidays make everything go much more quickly, 606 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: so before you know it, you're back in school again, 607 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: you're back to work again. Whereas when you're a student 608 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: in the States, you have those two weeks of you know, 609 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: Christmas time, that's just Christmas time, yes, and then when 610 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: you're done with school, which is usually in May or June. 611 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: You don't go back until late August September. Wow, and 612 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: that time there's no holidays in that time, so it's 613 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: just for summer. And a lot of people also use that, 614 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: like if you're older, they use it to work, they 615 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: use it to do internships, they use it to travel 616 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: for extended periods of time. So you have a long 617 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: time to be able to do multiple things. 618 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: And is that why parents sit now it makes sense 619 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: sending kids off to summer camp because that doesn't really 620 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: that's not a thing here. 621 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a huge in the state. So a lot 622 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: of people will send them to overnight camps, which are 623 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: like usually six weeks long, so it's half of the 624 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: summer holiday. 625 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 626 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: Whereas I never went to an over and I I 627 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: went to like a local one, so. 628 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 4: It was a program. 629 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I'd spend probably four weeks out of 630 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: the summer at a day camp. 631 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: Wow. 632 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: And then I became like one of the camp counselors. 633 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: And I was like thirteen, of course you did, which 634 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: is fun. That's my first job, a summer camp counselor. 635 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: Really, did you get paid. 636 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: The first year? No, because I was too young. But 637 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: then I think I got paid when I because I 638 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: did it for like four years thirteen forty fifty sixteen. 639 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: Wow. 640 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: If that was a thing in Australia, Mary Ron would 641 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: have definitely sent me away for the entirety of the summer. 642 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I would have been just waving me off from the 643 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: front door. 644 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 645 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 3: People who go to those camps they have the like, 646 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: really great experiences and their parents go off and traveled 647 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: in Europe, so they're having like this break as well. 648 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: It gets kind of a cool setup. 649 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's the worse. 650 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Like some of my friends went to boarding schools, which 651 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of seems like that would suck, and some of 652 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: them hated it, not many, a few, but most of 653 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: them after the initial adjustment, but they loved boarding school 654 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: like they you know, they loved it. 655 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know that. Did you ever think about 656 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: that tip? Was that an option for you? 657 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 658 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: But yeahs running around? 659 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 4: Really you were just free, Ryan Shore a lot of chicken. Yeah. No, well, 660 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: I mean it's not a big is a boarding schools 661 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: things in the States, So they I mean, I know 662 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: they are, but to any great extent or. 663 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: Not not really. I mean they're definitely around and people 664 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 3: go to boarding schools, but it's not like a massive 665 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: thing I would I would have I would struggle with 666 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: not being near my kids all the time, so I 667 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: probably wouldn't even consider doing that. And I would have 668 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: probably struggled with the six six weeks at camp as well. 669 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: I know, like one of my one of my friends, 670 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: her husband went to camp for his childhoods. He wanted 671 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: to send their kids, and she was really like, how 672 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: about that, But they got used to it really quickly 673 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: when they were going to Europe for that time and 674 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: they got the kids got to go. You know, we're 675 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: in there, you know, and they enjoyed it. The kids 676 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: enjoyed it, so she got used to it, and yeah, 677 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: that's kind of like their life in simmer, which is 678 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: really nice. 679 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: So you find it easy to step out of work 680 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: mindset into holiday mindset and then back. 681 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 3: It depends. I feel like when I was working for 682 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: an organization, I had no trouble with that, Like, you know, 683 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: I walk out, I've done my job and I've got 684 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: nothing else to think about. But when you own your 685 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: own business or businesses, it's harder to do that. So 686 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: I find it easier with my clinical practice side of 687 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: my business because it is more like going into It's 688 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 3: kind of more like appointments, right, and you just don't 689 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: have appointments. And if I'm like, I'm always around and 690 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: I can't help but tell my clients like, if you 691 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: need me, like I'm around, you can text me. And 692 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: they're always like, oh, I would never want to disrupt 693 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: your holiday, and I'm like, if you need me, I'm 694 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: saying I will be around, like you know. But it's 695 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: the other one that are the more of the digital 696 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: businesses where you feel like you always have to put 697 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: in something you can't just take a break from that. 698 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, look, I'm very much somebody who takes breaks frequently. 699 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: Like I don't struggle with duck down time or relaxing 700 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: or I don't feel guilty about it. Yeah, I just 701 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: feel like I have a responsibility to my business and 702 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: to some degree, and so just from that side of things, 703 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: I might not completely switch off, but I'll switch off 704 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: a lot, like enough for me to enjoy my brain. Yeah. 705 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like my life and I like where 706 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I live. But I have this minor fantasy which can't 707 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: happen in the next six months while I finish my study. 708 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: But maybe one day in the next five years. I 709 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: feel like I would like to go away for six 710 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: months and do everything that I currently do, but do 711 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: it in another country. 712 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: Obviously, the face to face gigs would. 713 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Have to go on hold, which would be not a 714 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: great part of it, but probably worth it. But all 715 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: the you know, all the other stuff, all the coaching 716 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: or a lot of the coaching online gigs, workshops, seminars, podcasts. 717 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 4: You know, I can. 718 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost like we live in a time 719 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: now where you can depending on what your job is, 720 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of jobs where you can kind 721 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: of do it anywhere in the. 722 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: World, absolutely, and so I would love to. 723 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to go live somewhere else and just you know, 724 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: be in it just a completely different energy and geography 725 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: and climate and culture and just not that I'm well known, 726 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: but just where I'm never going to bump into anyone 727 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: that knows me, and yeah, I'd be surprised helse well maybe, Yeah, 728 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: that's a. 729 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: Great I think that's an amazing idea. That's one of 730 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: my you know, ideal where I'd like to be in 731 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: the future. You know, when my kids are done with 732 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: high school and they're in union and they have their 733 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: own adult lives. That's definitely on our radar. My husband 734 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: and I like just go because we can both do 735 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: our jobs. Like you said, you can, we can do 736 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: that from anywhere. 737 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, where would you go to if if you had 738 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: to go? Well, it doesn't have to be one place, 739 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: but if you were going to travel for six months 740 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: and do your podcast and do this stuff with me? 741 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 4: And what. 742 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: While you're thinking of that, I'll tell your mine. So 743 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: mine mine would probably be nobody would guess this, well, 744 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: people who know me might, but it would probably be Ireland. 745 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh yes, my grandmother was Irish. Her name was Molly 746 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Malone and my grandma died giving birth to my mum, 747 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: so I never met her. But like, I've only been 748 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: to Ireland once to do some work. I literally went 749 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: to Ireland to do a three hour workshop. 750 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 4: How funny is that? 751 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: But and I had no expectation, like there was no 752 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: story in my head about oh this is you know, 753 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be amazing. I'm going to feel 754 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 1: something and there's going to be this. I didn't There's 755 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: nothing I was just going to do. I was excited 756 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: to go to a place I've never been, but there 757 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: was something for me inexplicably familiar about the place and 758 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: the people and the accent, and like I felt like, Oh, 759 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: I almost felt like I belonged there more than I 760 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: belong here, which I don't. But it's it's like, oh, 761 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why. And I've been I love the States. 762 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: I've been to the States like a dozen times. I 763 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: love it. And while I think it's amazing, I know 764 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not from there and I don't feel like I 765 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: belong there, but I love it. It's amazing, right, And 766 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: I've been to England, and I've been to a bunch 767 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: of places. But when I went to Ireland, I'm like, oh, 768 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: there is some familiarity about this, and I think it's 769 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: in my genes. I think it's in my DNA. It's 770 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: like my DNA knows this place. My DNA is like 771 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: comfortable here. I was so comfortable there. I so loved everyone. 772 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: The people were like ridiculous. I mean, they were the 773 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: nicest people as just a collection of humans that I've 774 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: met ever on any trip. 775 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 4: Wow, like crazy, Yeah. 776 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: So I've actually heard that about Ireland. 777 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Crazy nicest people in the world. Yeah, And just like 778 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: I had strangers constantly offering me to stay with them, like, 779 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: you know, come and stay with Oh you don't stand 780 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: a ha, don't be staying in a hotwn Come and 781 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: stay with us. Oh no, you won't be standing there, 782 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: You'll be standing with us. 783 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm good. 784 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: I've got to know. Thank you, thank you. But yes, 785 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: so and like they was so, it was so funny. 786 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: I did a gig in this little place and they 787 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: were so so grateful that I came. Yeah, because nobody 788 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 4: comes here. Thank you. You know. 789 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something about your roots and you know, your history, 790 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: intergenerational history. Yeah, and we don't often know a lot 791 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: about it, but like if we did, we probably connect 792 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: so much more to you know, like what you're saying, 793 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 3: you have this like inexplicable connection to this country that 794 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: you've never lived in and you only spend a few hours. 795 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: And I'm sure, but there's. 796 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: A reason why that is. Do you know a lot 797 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: about your family history? 798 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: No, I actually do, not, Like my I shouldn't say this, 799 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: but my family is a bit weird. Everyone says that, 800 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: but like, my dad's one of six boys, so six kids. 801 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: A mum is one of six kids, so twelve right 802 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: between their immediate families. And I really There's a couple 803 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: of uncles and aunies that I know a bit, but 804 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, I don't, you know, I don't 805 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: know how many cousins I have, probably eighty. I think 806 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I know I know two or three of them. I 807 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: was going to say two or three of them. Well, 808 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: but even then, I haven't seen them ten years. 809 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 4: Like, I really don't know anyone well. 810 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: And it's funny, my family like never spent much like 811 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, how families get together big Christmases or the 812 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters and the kids and the aunties that 813 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: never happened. I've never had one of those ever, So yeah, 814 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: it's for whatever reason. And that's not a slight on 815 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 1: mom and dad. But yeah, they both come from really 816 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: big families. And I'm an only child. Yet I don't 817 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: know anyone really. I've got one auntie and uncle that 818 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I know quite well. Shout out to trep and die, 819 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: but other than that, nobody. 820 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know the stories even if you don't 821 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 3: know the people, Like, do you know any like good 822 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: stories about like challenges or like things that happened and 823 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 3: a little mothers or your father's side. 824 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little bit, a little bit. 825 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: And when you kind of you know, it's like I 826 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: had this well, I didn't have a revelation I was 827 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: actually somebody who was smarter than me kind of and 828 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: wiser than me years ago when I was having this 829 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: conversation about like my mum and dad and I don't 830 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: know how we got here, but my mum and dad 831 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: and I was always like I lived with these two 832 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: adults that were really good people, and we all got 833 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: on really well. It was like just two grown ups 834 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: that I knew, and we all lived in the same house. 835 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: It was like I lived with an auntie and uncle 836 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: that were pretty fond of me. 837 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: Right. It was not like parenting one oh one. 838 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: Like I rarely got parented, you know what I mean, 839 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: Where like my old man never said to me, all right, look, 840 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: I want to have a chat with you. 841 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 4: That never happened. 842 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 3: You know. 843 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that we didn't do things together. We did, 844 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: But it was like mum and dad were not brilliant 845 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: communicators in this context, you know, so that those kinds 846 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: of hey, where the mum and dad, you're the kid, 847 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: have a chatch to you about how the world works 848 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: or how life works, or relationships or hey, let's talk 849 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: about school and beyond school, like we never I never 850 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: had those conversations. 851 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't think many very many people did, though, Craig. 852 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, our parents and their parents 853 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: generation didn't have those type of conversations ltipuly kind of 854 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 3: coming around now where our kids are talking to us more, 855 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: we're talking to them more, we're giving them a little 856 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 3: bit more of an idea of what their histories are. 857 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 3: I just the reason I was asking is because because 858 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: my mother's here, I actually arranged. There's this person that 859 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: I know who had like this conversation with his mother 860 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: and she had just been diagnosed with terminal cancer and 861 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: he wanted to have like something that where she could 862 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: talk about you know, like their family and history and 863 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 3: it would be something that you know, he could potentially 864 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 3: have forever obviously, but also maybe show to his future 865 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: children and all of that. And from that, he's just 866 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 3: decided to start a business called forever Cast, where he 867 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 3: provides the technology for other people to do that, and 868 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 3: so he just brings it to people's homes and they 869 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 3: can have that conversation with which, you know, with their 870 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 3: mother or their father or their grandfather, whoever it is, 871 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: and then it's a video and an audio keepsake, and 872 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: you get to know your history more as well. So 873 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: I actually went when I was in I just went 874 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: to city with my mother for a few days for 875 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 3: like just some fun with her. And while we were there, 876 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 3: we went and we did one of these recordings, and 877 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: I got to do this interview with my mother and 878 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 3: ask her all these questions and get delve deeper into 879 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: some of the stories that I might have heard a 880 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 3: little bit but forgot or don't know the details, or 881 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 3: like didn't really ask or wasn't maybe interested before. You know, 882 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 3: like sometimes you're not interested until you're older. So it 883 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: was really cool just to have that experience. And then 884 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: you know, I have this psychology for F. Vessor from Emory, 885 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 3: where I used where I went to school, and he 886 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: actually did research on how important it is to know 887 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: your family history and how it actually helps children build 888 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 3: their self esteem and resilience and overcome stress and challenges 889 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 3: throughout their lives. The more you know about your family history, 890 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 3: the more protective it is for the rest of your life. 891 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 3: So it's super interesting when we're talking about youth anxiety 892 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 3: at the beginning, it's like, well, one of the things 893 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 3: that we can all do to help youth is to 894 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 3: tell them about their history, because what happens is they 895 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 3: develop what's called like an intergenerational self. So it's not 896 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 3: just about them on their own, or even them and 897 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 3: just their immediate family. They actually belong to generations of 898 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: people who have had to overcome challenges, who have lived 899 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 3: interesting lives, and you kind of belong to all of 900 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 3: that now rather than just that's. 901 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 1: So interesting, that's so interesting. Well, our time is up. 902 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: I hope you have a great Christmas. I hope you 903 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: have a good New Year. You do celebrate Christmas? 904 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: Right? 905 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 3: We do? 906 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you do, Tiff and I'll be at the beach 907 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: with one hundred losers at six There no not loses 908 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: at all, winners. 909 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: It's the winners. 910 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 3: Group, that's right. 911 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Doctor Lillian won't be there 912 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 4: because she's pretty lazy. Yes, I think that's the word. 913 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 4: How do people connect with you, Doc, Not in the 914 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: next couple of weeks, but after the next few weeks. 915 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 4: How do they connect with you? 916 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: Doctor lilliannajad dot com is a good spot. There's a 917 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 3: contact for him there if you want to actually connect 918 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: with me, or if you just want to have a 919 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: browse through. Feel free to do that. I wish you 920 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: both like a good holiday season, whatever that is for you, 921 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 3: and I hope that you do do that thing on 922 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 3: Wednesday and it's super fun and even though I probably 923 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: won't come, I still expect an invitation. 924 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 4: You are formally invited. You're formally invited. 925 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,919 Speaker 1: You better just check in on Tuesday as to whether 926 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: or not is actually happening. But now, Doc, thank you, 927 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Thanks for all your contribution for another 928 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: year on the You Project. You are a winner. Even 929 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: if you don't sho up on Wednesday. 930 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh thanks, I appreciate that