1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: I'll get a team. Welcome to another installment, the new project. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: I almost forgot the name of mind Joe hang on, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: let me just check. Yep, do you hang on? Let 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: me just look it up again, Capital T what yep? 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: You project? Hi tiv I harps. I'm stumbling towards Christian. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting my words muddled, My mort's waddled. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Your brain's clocked off, your brain's gone on holidays. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: It can't clock off. You know why I can't clock off? Well, one, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: it's twelve thirty six and I've got a forty five 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: minutes or so. Do you chat to you and the 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: lovely doctor Lillian. But then it's fifteen hundred, which is 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: two and a half hours away. I've got like a 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: really big UNI meeting with all my supervisors, and I'm 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: very I'm very scared. I'm thinking of taking some kind 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: of stimulant ten minutes beforehand, can you two recommend anything? Lilian, 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: got anything that I can take that's going to improve 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: my IQ by about thirty points? 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: No, Well, take some responsibility and just deal with it. 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Fucking the hell. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: That's a good stimulants of responsibility for you. 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: Take a cup of hardened the fuck up hops. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: She's only today cheap too, doctor Lilliam, even more than normal. 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what have you got planned for Chrissy? Doc? 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: We are it's the twentieth that's Frauday, so with five 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: days out, but we're going to talk about chrisy. But 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: is it a big deal in your family or do 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: you just sail through it quietly? 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: No, it's always been a big deal in our family 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: and in Australia. This year, I actually have my mother here, 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: so she's come from the States. 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh awesome. And is she here already? Yeah, she's been here. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: For almost three weeks since she'll be here for another. 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Three And what is she Has she been here before? 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been This is her ninth time. 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Wow, I've been. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: Here for thirty years? Did you know? 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Wow? That is a long time, and you've lost none 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: of that accent? 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: I know. I know people still ask like when I 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: moved and when I like, I don't usually say thirty years. 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I usually like a really long time. 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, it's been a minute. It's been 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: a minute. 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: But they're like, oh, it sounds like you just got here. 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, it's actually really hard to imitate the 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Australian accent. I don't know if well, you probably know 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: that because a lot of actors try to do it 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: and they can't. Uh, and I definitely cannot it either. 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of really good Hollywood actors 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: and famous actors are terrible at doing Some do, some 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: can pull it off, but yeah, very few. I've never 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: heard any that that sound completely Australian, like you couldn't 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: pick it. Whereas like we grow up around American accents. 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I've probably heard more American accents definitely on television than 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Australian when I was growing up, because all the all 56 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: the comedies I watched, all this, you know, all the 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: kind of series that I watched, were I never watched. 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm probably quite unpatriotic in that I've never watched one 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: episode of Neighbors or what's the other one really, Home 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and Away. I don't know why I never watched, do 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: you know what. I've tried quite a few casts members 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: and now quite a few, and I've never watched one 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: episode that is hilarious. You know what. 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: The first show I ever saw that was an Australian 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: show was Home and Away. I was actually in London. Yeah, 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: and It was like in a like university kind of 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: boarding house. We were just there for like a month, 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: and the only thing on TV like people were watching 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: in like the main room was Home and Away, And 70 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: my friends and I were like, what is this show? 71 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: And we just we just thought it was really funny 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: because the soap operas in the US are like very 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: dramatic and like unrealistic and like, you know, just crazy 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: stuff happens. But in Home and Away, it's like I'm 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: moving out of my house, I'm going to show like 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, Like it was just very like regular life stuff. 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I got a new pair of socks. What 78 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: do you think of my socks? 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Great? What do you think of my socks? That's awesome? 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: And now an ad and the theme song was great too. 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: We memorize the theme song. We were like really into it. 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: We were talking this is probably not what we're going 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: to talk about, but we'll talk the other day. All 85 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: the boys in the gym about all the all the 86 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: shows we grew up watching in the sixties, seventies and eighties, 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: and all the youngies are like, no idea what you're 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: talking about, Like, you know, what do you mean? You 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: don't know what Gilligan's Island is or The Brady Bunch 90 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: is or Bewitched or I Dream a Jennie or come on. 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I know. It's so sad, Oh my god, because 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: even though those were like slightly before our time, even 93 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: there were always reruns of those shows, so you knew 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: those shows like Back and Back in Front, like yeah, 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: and then you know they don't watch TV anymore. 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: That's why, Well, that's true. TV is dying. So traditional media, 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: as the youngies call it, traditional media, normal radio you 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: know FREDDA in normal FM, AM radio, and old school television. Yeah, 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: it's definitely on the decline. And you're right. Kids basically 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: watch everything on their phone or on you know, their 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: laptop or their tablet or whatever. Yeah. 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: And the thing is, because of the advent of things 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: like TikTok, they don't even watch an entire episode, but 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: they'll know about what's going on in a show from 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: like little snippets of the main things that people put up. 106 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've actually because I've always loved television and 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: movies and all sorts of stuff like that, So I 109 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: we've always engaged our children in entertainment of that kind. 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: And we've always had like family television show that either 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: all of us watch together or like two of us watch. Yeah, 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 3: And my daughter and I watched, for instance, the whole 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: series of The Gilmore Girls together, which is it's such 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: a mother daughter type of show. So it was like, 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: but it's fun, it's very pop cultury, and it was 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: really cool for me to watch it with her. And 117 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: now we're watching a real like a ninety show, The OC. 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, And. 119 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: I never watched it when it was out, so I'm 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: watching it fresh as well. So it's just fun to 121 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: just pick, you know, it doesn't have to be like 122 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what I think of 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: The OC. It's entertaining enough. It's our show. We know 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 3: when we have time, we're going to watch that show 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: together until it's over, and then we'll pick another show. 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: You told me about The Gilmore Girls a couple of 127 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: years ago, and I know everybody would go, oh my god, 128 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: to give I watched a couple of episodes. I'm going 129 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: to be honest. It wasn't terrible. 130 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: It was great. 131 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible, But it's like old. It's like started 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Now, look at Tiff Sperky. I don't 133 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: mind a bit of the Gilmore Girls, Tiff. I don't 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: mind a little bit of do you know what I like? 135 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I like watching stuff that doesn't make me think particularly hard. 136 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel anxious because there's it's fucking 137 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: horror and blood and people getting chopped up down now 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: and you know, violence. And I don't mind a bit 139 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: of like silly violence, but stuff that actually I come 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: away from it feeling worse than when I sat down 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: to watch it, you know what I mean? Yeah, what's 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: the point. It's like movies where you go and pay 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: thirty bucks or whatever you pay these days, and you 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: sit there and you be anxious for two hours. You're like, 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: why the fuck do I do that to myself? 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think that could be fun. A lot 147 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: of people think that's fine. I don't mind a little 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: bit of like suspense or mystery. I don't want to 149 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: see horror or like real life crime. Stuff like that 150 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: doesn't interest me at all. Like you said, why do 151 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: I want to expose myself to that? I want to 152 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: be entertained and get something out of it. But a 153 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: drama every once in a while, having a good crime 154 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: front of the TV. Sometimes that's cathartic as well. 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I do that. I get downe on Instagram with the reels, 156 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: like I cry puppies thirteen times a day. And then like, 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: you know what else makes me cry? War veterans coming home, 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: moms and dads to their kids and they walk into 159 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the classroom. Yeah, and then there's this you know, this 160 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: mum or dad in all their bloody army or their 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, marine garb, and then the little kid just 162 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm out fast. 163 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful, like a bit baby. 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: Hey, I don't want to go over something we've spoken 165 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: about too much on this show, but just quickly I 166 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: wanted to touch on something that David Gillespie, who's a 167 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: regular on here aka gillespo, he wrote an article recently 168 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: based on some new research that came out of the 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Lancet and that is that Melbourne has got more anxious 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: and depressed teenagers than any other city in the world. 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: And so the statistic that's in published in the Lancet 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: Psychiatry is that three out of four, or obviously seventy 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: five percent of Melbourne teenagers are struggling with anxiety or depression, 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: and obviously it's been linked to tech. Is that astounding to. 175 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: You, Well, I mean the stat that teenagers in general 176 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: are very anxious and anxiety is growing among that group 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: is not surprising to me because that has been what 178 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: the research has been saying for a while. Yeah, I 179 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: guess it's surprising to hear that Melbourne is like at 180 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: the height of that. I guess if you think about technology, 181 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 3: I mean, Australia is very forward, like they're early adopters 182 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: of technology, so potentially we're using it more. And if 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: we're going to say I don't know that technology is 184 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: the only reason, right, but if it's one of the 185 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: main reasons, and the way that we use it and 186 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: how often we use it and how social media is 187 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: used here so prolifically, then potentially it makes sense for 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: teenagers here to have more. But I don't know that 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: it would. It must be significantly more for that to 190 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: have been published in the lanset. But I think overall, 191 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: youth anxiety is growing. 192 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: You think maybe there's also a relationship because we were 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if we were the number one, but 194 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: definitely in the top few most locked down cities the 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: longest period. I mean, whatever it was. 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: For Yeah, it was like almost a year. 197 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: It was like a yearish where kids couldn't be kids essentially, well, 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: they couldn't be normal, you know, free range roaming kids. 199 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: There were cage kids for a year. That's going to 200 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: be especially you know, like if you're five years old, 201 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: that's twenty percent of your life like that year. 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: It's not even just the fact that children were not 203 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: able to go to school regularly and see their friends regularly, 204 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 3: but they were also in homes with stressed out parents. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: So you have this kind of you know, exposure to 207 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: anxiety and stress at a level that we've as a 208 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: society haven't even experienced. Yeah, and you couldn't escape it 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: because you couldn't go anywhere else. 210 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes. 211 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: And when I think of like some of my clients 212 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: who really struggled, lot of people didn't struggle. I know 213 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: that a lot of people did, but there were there 214 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: was a segment of the community, we'll say the more 215 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: privileged ones who were like, this is a break from 216 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: going to work and I like hanging out with my 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: family all the time, and you know, they have the 218 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: resources and so they weren't struggling as much. But the 219 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: families who you know already had like fewer resources, already 220 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: were isolated. Yes, single parents with special needs kids, yeah, 221 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: you know, who count on the support and they can't 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: do anything now. And now they're in a home and 223 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: they have to manage children that have challenges, and they 224 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: have to manage their own stress and anxiety. Was it 225 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: was actually an impossible task. So then you're going to 226 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: have kids that come out of that environment more stressed 227 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: and anxious. 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: So I remember a few months I don't know how 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: many months in, maybe five or six months in and 230 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen my parents, and Autosado is going to 231 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: draw to the thriving metropolis moll which there was a 232 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of kind of in a ladder, go more than 233 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: five k's from your home, and it's got to be 234 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: some spectacular reason and you need to. And I just went, 235 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, and my mom, mom and dad have not 236 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: been great over the last few years with various medical issues, 237 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: and dad had a heart attack and moms had, you know, 238 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: multiple bouts of cancer and treatment. And I'm like, well, 239 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: I'm going. And there was about halfway about it, and it's 240 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: about two hours. So at about that one hour mark 241 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: on Princess highway or freeway. There were blockades and there 242 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: were cops everywhere, and I had to sit in line 243 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: for like two kilometers. Then I had to basically plead 244 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: my case with a which wasn't his fault. I'm like, 245 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: what the fuck? Where are we? What is this? I 246 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: had to explain who I was, who my parents was, were, 247 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: where they live, Why I'm going there? Do I have 248 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: to go there? You know? And he, I mean, he 249 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: was he was fine. It wasn't he was just doing 250 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: what he was told to do. But I'm like, man, 251 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: what is what? Where do we live? Now? What is 252 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: this about? You know? 253 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: It was such a strange, strange time in our life. 254 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, it was completely unexpected, and nobody knew how 255 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: to deal with it, you know, properly. And it was 256 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: so stressful, like you said on that level too, like 257 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: I couldn't go to the States for four years, Yes, yes, 258 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: you know I was. I was trying to go every 259 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: couple of years to see my family over there. My 260 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: parents are getting older too, you know, like four years 261 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: is a massive block of time to not be able to, 262 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: you know, go and see your loved ones. And I know, 263 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: you know, of course, there are so many people who 264 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: lost people during that time and they didn't get to 265 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: be there for the those final moments, and you know, 266 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: there's so much loss and so much stress and so 267 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: much anxiety that over just that. And it was a 268 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: long time. It wasn't like one year one years ago time, 269 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: but like it was like three. 270 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Crazy on and off. 271 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's going to be We're still feeling the 272 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: impact and the effects of that for sure. And yeah, 273 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 3: I would say that that makes a lot of sense 274 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: in terms of why Melbourne youth might be more impacted 275 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: than others. 276 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: It could be a definitely could be a factor. If 277 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: what's your this year? What's your I don't know underlying 278 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: emotion around Christmas? Is it excitement? Is it indifference? Is 279 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: it something else? Because I know you're you're staying in 280 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: melts right and you live by yourself with your Leeline 281 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and Kayla Canaine family, But how do you feel? Do 282 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: you feel for me? I kind of feel like it's 283 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, but that's just me. 284 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I feel a bit like that, Like I'm 285 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: happy and I'm going to do some cool stuff on 286 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: the day, but I'm not really attached to Christmas. I've 287 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: been having a really good couple of months since coming 288 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: back from a little trip, and so I feel good, 289 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: and yeah, I've got no attachment to the day, but 290 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: I'm making sure that I that I do do something 291 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: because if I don't, I've done that before and I 292 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: get really sad because you know, there's an energy and 293 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: a realization that you get up and everyone's with loved ones. 294 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: And I remember doing that once and going, oh, dear, 295 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: no one loves me. 296 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm really sad. 297 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Now. 298 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: It was like, TI, if you chose this, yeah, I reckon. 299 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: In the last two weeks, I've said to I don't know, 300 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm making it up, but about twenty people, you know, 301 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: are you excited for Christmas? Or what is it? And 302 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: I would think, I mean, it wasn't half, but maybe 303 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: three or four when not not at all? I fucking 304 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: hate it or I'm dreading it, or I hate my sister. 305 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: I only say it once a year, she's a fucking nightmare. 306 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Or yeah, there's a I don't know what the percentage is, 307 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: but I would think five percent of five ten percent 308 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: of people really for a range of reasons, maybe because 309 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: they're isolated, or maybe because they have to go and 310 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: spend a day with people that don't want to, or 311 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: maybe because it evokes, you know, things that happened or 312 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't happen in the past, or but it seems doc 313 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: that not everybody associates the twenty fifth of December with 314 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: joyful kind of emotions. 315 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's absolutely right. I think it can 316 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: actually be the worst time of year for a lot 317 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,239 Speaker 3: of people, like you said, for so many different reasons. 318 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of memories attached to Christmas 319 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: as a holiday too and not maybe you know, a 320 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: lot of people's memories of that might not be great, 321 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: you know, in their childhood, so that carries on into 322 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: adulthood as well, and also where you know, different people 323 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: are in different phases of their life, you know, like 324 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: for our family, we lost my father in law early 325 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: this year, so it's the first Christmas without him, which 326 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: is really different and difficult for the family. For us 327 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: as a family, Christmas is generally a good time of year. 328 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: It's like an excuse to get together and luckily we 329 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: like each other just good. Yeah, so it's like a 330 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: nice gathering, but like it's going to have that tinge 331 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: of sadness this year for sure, And yeah, for some 332 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: people that don't have family members to be with, and 333 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: so it is quite isolating and it is hard to see, 334 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: like you were saying, Tiffany, it's hard to see like 335 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: all these other people, you know, this is the time 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: where they're gathering with people, they're loved ones, and if 337 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: that's not your experience, you feel like left out, like 338 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: what other people are experiencing. 339 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: How do we mitigate that? Because I feel like we 340 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be critical of anyone, but 341 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: it's like, when you think about it on a level, 342 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: on one level, it's Christmas, die, it's this, it's that, 343 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: it's all those things, which is true. Also true, it 344 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: is Wednesday, it is the day between Tuesday and Thursday, 345 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: and so you know that expectational, that disappointment or that sadness, 346 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: which I'm not saying is unreasonable, but we kind of 347 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: created ourselves. 348 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so, But I guess it's. 349 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: An individual response, right, Yeah, But I mean it's a 350 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: societal holiday in a way. 351 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 3: Like also there's a lot of people where Christmas has 352 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: no meaning for them and it isn't their holiday, right, 353 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: So it's not everybody's holiday, that's true, But culturally, like 354 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: places like Australia and the UK and the US culturally 355 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: as a country, they celebrate it. So it's a little 356 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: bit hard to be like, well, I'm creating this situation 357 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: for myself, and it's actually like everywhere, right. You can't 358 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: get away from the music, can't get away from the decoration. 359 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: You can't get away from the wrapping paper. You know, 360 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: you can't. Everyone's wishing everyone to marry Christmas like it's 361 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: it's just like what's done pretty much prolifically at this 362 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: time of year. 363 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I wasn't trying to be critical of anyone, but 364 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is, well, how do I how do 365 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: I manage me in the middle, Like if this is 366 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: not a great day for me, if I'm not excited, 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: if i'm if I know that like rather than me 368 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: than my emotions and feelings and a mental state being 369 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: dictated by what's going on around me, how do I 370 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: mitigate that or change that so that you know, as 371 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: much as I can control my own state or experience, 372 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. 373 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think because it's predictable, like if you 374 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: know how you experience the holiday, then it is really 375 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: important to plan it for yourself. Like what is that 376 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: day going to be like for you, I know, my 377 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: mother lives in the US, and my brothers live fairly 378 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: close by, but they also have their own immediate families 379 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: and my dad because my parents are divorced, so like 380 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 3: there's it's spread. It's not like they can just spend 381 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: the whole day with her. So what she did was 382 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: she decided to volunteer that day, so she would go 383 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: and do the you know, the food service volunteering, you know, 384 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: in an organization nearby. And that made her feel good 385 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: about the day because she was contributing, yes, and that 386 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: always feels good, as we know, so like things like 387 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: if she knew that that was going to be the 388 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: case for her day, so she organized that for herself. 389 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: And it doesn't always it doesn't have to be that, 390 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: but it could be. You know, how are you going 391 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: to comfort yourself on the day If you know that 392 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: you're going to feel a little bit down and you 393 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: can't necessarily control that feeling, what can you do to 394 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: give yourself comfort and soothing and make it more pleasant 395 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: and improve the moment or the day for yourself? And 396 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: that might be really different for different people, Like it 397 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: might be you know, a movie marathon, or it might 398 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: be you know, doing a day as they say in Australia, 399 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: to stay in bed and surround yourself with nice things 400 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: and be comfortable and eat in bed and just you know, 401 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: do what you want. Or it might be like surrounding 402 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: yourself with things that are fun or funny, you know, 403 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: just lift your spirits. Yeah, or like watchers or follow 404 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: anti you know holiday or anti Christmas stuff like if 405 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: that's something that will get you out of your punk, 406 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: like whatever works for you. But I agree, like if 407 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: you know that this is a difficult time of year, 408 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: you know that it's not that meaningful for you, you 409 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: know that you might be sad or stressed around that time, 410 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: then you know, do some planning and prepare yourself. 411 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: You know what I used to do? Eat and know this, Tiff. 412 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever shared this on this show, 413 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: but every Christmas I used to do it at Easter. 414 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: I think I've spoken about Easter, but every Christmas for 415 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: about I don't know, ten or twelve years is when 416 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: I owned Jim's Lily Inn. I had lots of stuff 417 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: and lots of clients and I would meet who ever 418 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: wanted to meet me. At seven am at the beach 419 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and they all had to bring twenty bucks and it 420 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: went to a charity. So everyone paid twenty bucks. It 421 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: went to a charity that somebody decided. I didn't even 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: get the money. The money didn't go through my hands. 423 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: It went straight to the organization. But we would get 424 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: sometimes one hundred people, so we'd raised two grand. 425 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: In an hour, and it was great and people obviously 426 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: people came dressed up and people had on hats and 427 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 5: bloody rein deer antlers, and you know, like it was 428 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: such a good thing. 429 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: And so there was this before the day even really started. 430 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Like we finished at eight o'clock. So there's all these 431 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, this laughter and all this connection and everybody 432 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: getting a few endorphins and a bit of dopamine because 433 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: they're running around in the sand and running some stairs 434 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: and doing some body weight stuff and saying hello to 435 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people. And yeah, I just remember 436 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: what an amazing day, or what an amazing start to 437 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: the day that was. And a lot of people back then, 438 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, they would come to me and say, this 439 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is actually the best part of my Christmas Day because 440 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: of the rest of the day is not great for me, 441 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: and they really appreciated that, you know, that early morning 442 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: energy and fun and everybody who needed it got a 443 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: bit of a harg and a bit of a high five. 444 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: And that are idea. 445 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: That's a great idea. 446 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I loved it. I would do that now, but you're 447 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: not allowed to. You can't. I can't just meet you know. 448 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: The funny thing is, I can't meet a bunch of 449 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: people at the beach in this area where I live 450 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: and just train them. And I get it, you know, 451 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: it's all that. But it was in the old days 452 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: when you could just do that and no one. No 453 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: one was running around going what about the council regulations 454 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: and what about lawsuits? And what about our health and 455 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: safety and what about We're all just fucking running and 456 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: laughing nobody. Everybody was just having a good time. But 457 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: now we've got to fucking bring nine lawyers to the 458 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: beach with us. You know, it's fucking ridiculous. 459 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: That is a shame. But I think you bring up 460 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: a good point that you know, if we're we're sourceful, 461 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: which I think is a great skill to have. There 462 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: are lots of ways that you can meet with like 463 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 3: minded people on the day, Like yeah, you know, or 464 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: even online if you don't want to meet people in person, 465 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: there would be I haven't looked into it myself, but 466 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: maybe this is something I should do as well as 467 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: you know, what are the Facebook groups around? What are 468 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: the meetups? 469 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 4: You know? 470 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Like? 471 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: What can people actually do on the day that is 472 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: not Christmas focused? Yes, and that will you know lift 473 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: their spirits are just you know, like make it a 474 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: good day, not you know, it's just another Wednesday, but 475 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: it could be a really great Wednesday. 476 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if I wonder, I'm just wondering, Tiff, 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: maybe I could do a six thirty. Can't. I can't 478 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: get mad at you for going for a Christmas morning 479 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: walk with one hundred people and if you. 480 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Just happen to drop down, and I mean you can't. 481 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Stop if people decide to fucking jog through the sand 482 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: a little bit because there are a bit crazy, if 483 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: people want to do some burpies and some wall squats 484 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: and if people fuck I can't. I wouldn't suggest it. 485 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: But if people just spontaneously break into exercise, I mean, 486 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: who am I to get in the way. I mean, 487 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: it's not a cult or anything. People are free to 488 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: do what they want wow, So stand by, everybody stand by. 489 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: That might happen. That might be announced. It may or 490 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: may not, but it might be announced on the New 491 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: Project Facebook page. If you're not a member, become a member. 492 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: But now I wonder it would probably just be you 493 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: and me, cook, you and me and the dog, You, 494 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: me and Luna. 495 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Were you're coming second? Then if Luna is going to 496 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: be in the race, I'm coming. 497 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's three of us, you, me, and Luna, 498 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm fucking so far up the back. It's embarrassing. 499 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: I love how you're like. Lilian's not going to show up. 500 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: It's too early for her. 501 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: If I do it, will you show up? 502 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: Probably not exactly, exactly exactly arrest arrest my case. 503 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Too early, it's too early. 504 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: I want to be invited. 505 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to invite you if you're not 506 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: going to turn up. So if you're going to turn up, 507 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: you're invited. If you just want to be invited because 508 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: your self esteem needs a boost, you're not invited. 509 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Hey, this whole idea came about because of our conversation. 510 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: So that's true. That's true. I'm going to give that 511 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: some thought. I mean, it's one o three on Friday 512 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: on the twentieth, So it may not happen, but I'm 513 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: definitely going to give that. I'm definitely going to give 514 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: that some thought. So so keep talking to us about 515 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: this time of the year in general. It's not just Christmas, 516 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: it's New Years, it's when people is it a good 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: time of the year. You know, I'm not one on 518 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: news resolutions. Everyone knows, but I guess it depends. I 519 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: guess it depends how it's Starmach can work. But you're going, 520 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: is this a good time to reflect and plan or 521 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: is that kind of bullshit? 522 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: Well it can be bullshit. It depends on what you 523 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: do with it. But I feel like when we talk 524 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: about this time of year, the main thing that comes 525 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: up for me and for a lot of people that 526 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm around, is it's really stressful. The end of the 527 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: year is stressful, and I think I think there's a 528 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: lot of reasons for that. I always find like just 529 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: before I go on a holiday of any kind, any 530 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: time of year, it's the just before the holiday that's 531 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: the most stressful time because you're trying to tie up 532 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: things so that you are able to take that time 533 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: off and have like you know, actual rest and relaxation, 534 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about work, which is hard when 535 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: you own your own businesses as well. And so this 536 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: is like a big version of that. Right, It's like 537 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: everyone's taking almost everyone is taking at least a couple, 538 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 3: you know, one or two weeks off at this time 539 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 3: of year. So everyone's kind of trying to tie up 540 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: all their loose ends at the end of the year 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: or try to get as much done as humanly possible 542 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 3: so they can actually have a break and be ready 543 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: for whatever's coming on the other side of that break. 544 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 3: And then the other complicating factor of just being in 545 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: this country, let's say versus where I grew up in 546 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: the US, is it's also the end of the school year. 547 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: So if you're a parent, you have that extra layer 548 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: of busyness. There's all like when the kids were in 549 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: primary school, it was like, well, there's a Christmas show 550 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: that everyone has to go to, right, and there's there's 551 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: different parents will have holiday get togethers, and you know, 552 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: their friends will want to get together and all this 553 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: sort of stuff that happened. Also, your kids are little, 554 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: so they you know, if you celebrate Christmas, they're very 555 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: excited about it. And so you try to make it 556 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: really special and get the things that they want and 557 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: you know all of you know, all of that sort 558 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: of stuff that goes into it. And when your kids 559 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: are older, like my kids mine are fifteen and just 560 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: at eighteen and just graduated from high school, may then 561 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: you thank you. Then you have all of that, Like 562 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: all the end of you know, the whole year's stressful 563 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: because they're studying for their you know, exams, and then 564 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: they're waiting for their scores and there's a lot of 565 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: stress associated with that. And then you've got you know, 566 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: their graduation ceremonies, and then they're going to school is 567 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: and you have to worry about that, and then you know, 568 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: they have their dinners and so there's just so much 569 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: happening at this time of year. I think it can 570 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: be a really stressful time for people, and then you 571 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: kind of lose that spirit. Even if you had the 572 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: spirit for the holidays, yeah, you can't get there because 573 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: it takes so long to unwind from that stress that 574 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: you're not quite there yet on Christmas Day if you 575 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: want to be. 576 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why I haven't really thought of this, 577 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: but it just dawned on me because I'm an idiot 578 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: and I'm a bit slow, But it dawned on me that, oh, yeah, 579 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: you guys don't have summer holidays when we do, so obviously, 580 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: but so how like Christmas New Year over here, like 581 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot of like school is basically off for two months, 582 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: give'll take. How long do they have off school in 583 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: the States at this time of year. 584 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: Probably a couple of weeks, right, yeah. 585 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: And then they have like two months is ish through 586 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: summer our winter. 587 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Well, when I was younger, it was like three three 588 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: and a half months, And in fact, it worked better 589 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: that way because there was no holiday to break up 590 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: that time. So it was like this long, slow, beautiful 591 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: summer holiday. Whereas what happens here is school that's out. 592 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: Everyone's in a rush to get everything sorted just before Christmas, 593 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 3: and then the holidays make everything go much more quickly, 594 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: so before you know it, you're back in school again, 595 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: you're back at work again. Whereas when you're a student 596 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: in the States, you have those two weeks of you know, 597 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: Christmas time, that's just Christmas time, yes, and then when 598 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: you're done with school, which is usually in May or June, 599 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: you don't go back until late August September. Wow, and 600 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: that time there's no holidays in that time, so it's 601 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: just for summer. And a lot of people also use that, 602 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 3: like if you're older, they use it to work, they 603 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: use it to do internships, they use it to travel 604 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: for extended periods of time, so you have a long 605 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: time to be able to do multiple things. 606 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: And is that why parents sent Now it makes sense 607 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: sending kids off to summer camp because that doesn't really 608 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: that's not a thing here. 609 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a huge in the state. So a lot 610 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: of people will send them to overnight camps, which are 611 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: like usually six weeks long, so it's half of the 612 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: summer holiday. 613 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 614 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: Whereas I did never went to an over and I 615 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: went to like a local one. 616 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: So it was a program. 617 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I'd spend probably four weeks out of 618 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: the summer at a day camp. 619 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 620 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: And then I became like one of the camp counselors 621 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: and I was like thirteen, of course you did, which 622 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: is fun. That's my first job a summer camp counselor. 623 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Really, did you get paid. 624 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 3: The first year? 625 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: No? 626 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: Because I was too young. But then I think I 627 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: got paid when I because I did it for like 628 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: four years thirteen forty fifty sixteen. 629 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: Wow. I think if that was a thing in Australia, 630 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Mary Ron would have definitely sent me away for the 631 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: entirety of the summer. I would have been just waving 632 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: me off from the front door. Yeah. 633 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: People who go to those camps they have the like, 634 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: really great experiences and their parents go off and traveled 635 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: in Europe, so they're having like this break as well. 636 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: Like it's kind of a cool setup. 637 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's worse. Like some of 638 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: my friends went to boarding schools, which kind of seems 639 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: like that would suck, and some of them hated it, 640 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: not many, a few, but most of them after the 641 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: initial adjustment, but they loved boarding school like they you know, 642 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: they loved it. Like I don't know that did you 643 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: ever think about that tip? Was that an option for you? Yeah? 644 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, just running around really you were just free Ryan. 645 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: She wore a lot of chicken. Yeah. Well, I mean 646 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: it's not a big is a boarding schools things in 647 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: the States, so they I mean, I know they are, 648 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: but to any great extent or not not really. 649 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: I mean they're definitely around and people go to boarding schools, 650 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: but it's not like a massive thing. I would I 651 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: would have I would struggle with not being near my 652 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 3: kids all the time, so I probably wouldn't even consider 653 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: doing that. And I would have probably struggled with the 654 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: six six weeks at camp as well. I know, like 655 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: one of my one of my friends, her husband went 656 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: to camp for his childhoods. He wanted to send their kids, 657 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: and she was really like, how about that. But they 658 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: got used to it really quickly when they were going 659 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: to Europe for that time and they got the kids 660 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: got to go. You know, we're in there, you know, 661 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: and they enjoyed it. The kids enjoyed it, so she 662 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: got used to it, and yeah, that's kind of like 663 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: their life in simmer, which is really nice. 664 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: So you find it easy to step out of work 665 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: mindset into holiday mindset and then back. 666 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: It depends. I feel like when I was working for 667 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: an organization, I had no trouble with that, Like, you know, 668 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: I walk out, I've done my job, and I've got 669 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: nothing else to think about. But when you own your 670 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: own business or businesses, it's harder to do that. So 671 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: I find it easier with my clinical practice side of 672 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: my business because it is more like going into it's 673 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: kind of more like appointments, right, and you just don't 674 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: have appointments. And if I'm like, I'm always around and 675 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: I can't help but tell my clients like, if you 676 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: need me, like I'm around, you can text me. And 677 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 3: they're always like, I would never want to disrupt your holiday, 678 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: and I'm like, if you need me, I'm saying I 679 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: will be around, like you know. But it's the other 680 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: one that are the more of the digital businesses where 681 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: you feel like you always have to put in something 682 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 3: you can't just take a break from that. But yeah, look, 683 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm very much somebody who takes breaks frequently. Like I 684 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: don't struggle with dut down time or relaxing or I 685 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: don't feel guilty about it. Yeah, I just feel like 686 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: I have a responsibility to my business and to some degree, 687 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 3: and so just from that side of things, I might 688 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: not completely switch off, but I'll switch off a lot, 689 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: like enough for me to enjoy my brain. Yeah. 690 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like my life and I like where 691 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: I live. But I have this minor fantasy which can't 692 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: happen in the next six months while I finish my study, 693 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: but maybe one day in the next five years. I 694 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: feel like I would like to go away for six 695 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: months and do everything that I do, but do it 696 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: in another country. Obviously, the face to face gigs would 697 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: have to go on hold, which would be not a 698 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: great part of it, but probably worth it. But all 699 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: the you know, all the other stuff, all the coaching 700 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: or a lot of the coaching online gigs, workshops, seminars, podcasts, 701 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can. I mean, it's almost like we 702 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: live in a time now where you can depending on 703 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: what your job is, there are a lot of jobs 704 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: where you can kind of do it anywhere in the world, absolutely, 705 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: and so I would love to. Yeah, I'd love to 706 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: go live somewhere else and just you know, be in 707 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: it just a completely different energy and geography and climate 708 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: and culture and just not that I'm well known, but 709 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: just where I'm never going to bump into anyone that 710 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: knows me, and yeah, I'd be surprised. 711 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: Well maybe, Yeah, that's a great I think that's an 712 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: amazing idea. That's one of my you know, ideal where 713 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: I'd like to be in the future, you know, when 714 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 3: my kids are done with high school and they're in 715 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: union and they have their own adult lives. That's definitely 716 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 3: on our radar. My husband and I like just go 717 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: because we can both do our jobs. Like you said, 718 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: you can, we can do that from anywhere. 719 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, where would you go to if if you had 720 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 6: to go, Well, it doesn't have to be one place, 721 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 6: but if you were going to travel for six months 722 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 6: and do your podcast and do this stuff with me? 723 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: And what While you're thinking of that, I'll tell your mine. 724 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: So mine mine would probably be nobody would guess this, well, 725 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: people who know me might, but it would probably be Ireland. Oh, 726 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: my grandmother was Irish. Her name was Molly Malone and 727 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: my grandma died giving birth to my mum, so I 728 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: never met her. But like, I've only been to Ireland 729 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: once to do some work. I literally went to Ireland 730 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: to do a three hour workshop. How funny is that? 731 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: But and I had no expectation, Like there was no 732 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: story in my head about oh this is you know, 733 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: this is going to be amazing. I'm going to feel something, 734 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: there's going to be this. I didn't. There's nothing. I 735 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: was just going to do. I was excited to go 736 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: to a place I've never been, but there was something 737 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: for me inexplicably familiar about the place and the people 738 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: and the accent and like I felt like, oh, I 739 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: almost felt like I belonged there more than I belong here, 740 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: which I don't. But it's it's like, oh, I don't 741 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: know why. And I've been I love the States. I've 742 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: been to the States like a dozen times. I love it. 743 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: And while I think it's amazing, I know I'm not 744 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: from there and I don't feel like I belong there, 745 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: but I love it. It's amazing, right, And I've been 746 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: to England and I've been to a bunch of places, 747 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: but when I went to Ireland, I'm like, oh, there 748 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: is some familiarity about this, and I think it's in 749 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: my genes. I think it's in my DNA. It's like 750 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: my DNA knows this place. My DNA is like comfortable here. 751 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: I was so comfortable there. I so loved everyone. The 752 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: people were like yeah, ridiculous. I mean they were the 753 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: nicest people as just a collection of humans that I've 754 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: met ever on any trip. Wow, Like crazy, Yeah. 755 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: So I've actually heard that about Ireland. 756 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Crazy nicest people in the world. Yeah. And just like 757 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: I had strangers constantly offering me to stay with him, 758 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: like you know, come and stay with oh, you don't 759 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: stand Ah, don't be standing in a hotwn come and stay 760 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: with us. Oh no, you won't be standing there, You'll 761 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: be stand with us. I'm like, oh, I'm good. I've 762 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: got to know. Thank you, thank you. But yes, so 763 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: and like they was so, it was so funny. I 764 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: did a gig in this little place and and they 765 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: were so so grateful that I came. Yeah, because nobody 766 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: comes here. Thank you. You know. 767 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was something about your roots and you know, 768 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: your history, intergenerational history. Yeah, and we don't often know 769 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: a lot about it, but like if we did, we 770 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: probably connect so much more to you know, like what 771 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: you're saying, you have this like inexplicable connection to this 772 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 3: country that you've never lived in and you only spend 773 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 3: a few hours. And I'm sure, but there's a reason 774 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: why that is. Do you know a lot about your 775 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: family history? 776 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: No, I actually do not, Like my I shouldn't say this, 777 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: but my family is a bit weird. Everyone says that, 778 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: but like, my dad's one of six boys, so six kids. 779 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: A mum is one of six kids, so twelve right 780 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: between their immediate families, and I really there's a couple 781 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: of uncles and aunties that I know a bit, but 782 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: for the most part, I don't. You know, I don't 783 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: know how many cousins I have, probably eighty. I think 784 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I know I know two or three of them. I 785 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: was going to say two or three of them. Well, 786 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: but even then, I haven't seen him for ten years. Like, 787 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: I really don't know anyone well. And it's funny, my 788 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: family like never spent much like you know how families 789 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: get together big Christmases or the brothers and sisters and 790 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,479 Speaker 1: the kids and the aunties that never happened. I've never 791 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: had one of those ever, So yeah, it's for whatever reason. 792 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: And that's not a slight on mom and dad, but yeah, 793 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: they both come from really big families, and I'm an 794 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: only child. Yet I don't know anyone really. I've got 795 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: one auntie and uncle that I know quite well. Shout 796 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: out to Trep and die, but other than that, nobody. 797 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know the stories even if you don't 798 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 3: know the people, Like, do you know any like good 799 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: stories about like challenges or like things that happened and 800 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 3: mothers or your father's side. 801 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit, a little bit, And when 802 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: you kind of you know, it's like I had this 803 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: well I didn't have a revelation I was actually somebody 804 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: who was smarter than me, kind of and wiser than me. 805 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: Years ago when I was having this conversation about like 806 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: my mum and dad and I don't know how we 807 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: got here, but my mum and dad and I, it 808 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: was always like I lived with these two adults that 809 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: were really good people, and we all got on really well. 810 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: It was like just two grown ups that I knew, 811 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: and we all lived in the same house. It was 812 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: like I lived with an auntie and uncle that were 813 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: pretty fond of me. Right. It was not like parenting 814 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: one oh one. Like I rarely got parented, you know 815 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: what I mean when like my old man never said 816 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: to me, all right, look, I want to have a 817 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: chat with you. That never happened. 818 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 4: You know. 819 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that we didn't do things together. We did, 820 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: But it was like mum and dad were not brilliant 821 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: communicators in this context, you know, so that those kinds 822 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: of hey, where the mum and dad, you're the kid, 823 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: have a chatch you about how the world works or 824 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: how life works, or relationships, or hey, let's talk about 825 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: school and beyond school, like we never I never had 826 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: those conversations. 827 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: I don't think many very many people did, though, Craig. 828 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, our parents and their parents' 829 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: generation didn't have those type of conversations. That's a believe 830 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: kind of coming around now where our kids are talking 831 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: to us more, we're talking to them more, we're giving 832 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: them a little bit more of an idea of what 833 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: their histories are. I just the reason I was asking 834 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 3: is because because my mother's here, I actually arranged. There's 835 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: this person that I know who had like this conversation 836 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 3: with his mother and she had just been diagnosed with 837 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 3: terminal cancer and he wanted to have like something that 838 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 3: where she could talk about you know, like their family 839 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: and history and it would be something that you know, 840 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: he could potentially have forever obviously, but also maybe show 841 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: to his future children and all of that. And from 842 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 3: that he's just decided to start a business called forever Cast, 843 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: where he provides the technology for other people to do that, 844 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 3: and so he just brings it to people's homes and 845 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: they can have that conversation with which, you know, with 846 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 3: their mother or their father or their grandfather, whoever it is, 847 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: and then it's a video and an audio keepsake and 848 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: you get to know your history more as well. So 849 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: I actually went when I was in I just went 850 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: to city with my mother for a few days for 851 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 3: like just some fun with her. And while we were there, 852 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: we went and we did one of these recordings, and 853 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 3: I got to do this interview with my mother and 854 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 3: ask her all these questions and get delve deeper into 855 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 3: some of the stories that I might have heard a 856 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 3: little bit but for good or don't know the details, 857 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 3: or like didn't really ask or wasn't maybe interested before. 858 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 3: You know, like sometimes you're not interested until you're older. 859 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 3: So it was really cool just to have that experience, 860 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 3: and then you know, I have this psychology for us 861 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: are from Emory, where I used where I went to school, 862 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: and he actually did research on how important it is 863 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 3: to know your family history and how it actually helps 864 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: children build their self esteem and resilience and overcome stress 865 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,479 Speaker 3: and challenges throughout their lives. The more you know about 866 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 3: your family history, the more protective it is for the 867 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 3: rest of your life. So it's super interesting when we're 868 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 3: talking about youth anxiety at the beginning, it's like, well, 869 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 3: one of the things that we can all do to 870 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 3: help youth is to tell them about their history, because 871 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 3: what happens is they develop what's called like an intergenerational self. 872 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 3: So it's not just about them on their own, or 873 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: even them and just their immediate family. They actually belong 874 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: to generations of people who have had to overcome challenges, 875 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 3: who have lived interesting lives, and you kind of belong 876 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 3: to all of that now rather than just yeah. 877 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. That's so interesting. Well, our time is up. 878 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: I hope you have a great Christmas. I hope you 879 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: have a good New Year. You do celebrate Christmas? Right? 880 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 3: We do? 881 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Yes, you do, Tiff and I'll be at the beach 882 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: with one hundred losers at six There no not loses 883 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: at all, winners. It's the winners group, that's right. I 884 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: don't know about that. Doctor Lillian won't be there because 885 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: she's pretty lazy. Yes, I think that's the word. How 886 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: do people connect with you, Doc, Not in the next 887 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but after the next few weeks. How 888 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: do they connect with you? 889 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: Doctor lilliannajad dot com is a good spot. There's a 890 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: contact for them there. If you want to actually connect 891 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: with me, or if you just want to have a 892 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 3: browse through, feel free. 893 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: To do that. 894 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 3: I wish you both like a good holiday season, whatever 895 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 3: that is for you, and I hope that you do 896 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 3: do that thing on Wednesday, and it's super fun And 897 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: even though I probably won't come, I still expect an invitation. 898 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: You are formally invited. You're formally invited. You better just 899 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: check in on Tuesday as to whether or not is 900 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: actually happening. But now, Doc, thank you, We appreciate you. 901 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for all your contribution for another year on the 902 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 1: You Project. You are a winner. Even if you don't 903 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: shoup on Wednesday. 904 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh thanks, I appreciate that