WEBVTT - Albo’s China charm campaign

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<v Speaker 1>From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinamiot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, July fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Some of Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>most senior legal figures have called on the National Anti

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<v Speaker 1>Corruption Commission to publicly name the allegedly corrupt officials it investigates.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes after Commissioner Paul Brereton kept private the name

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<v Speaker 1>of a public official who used her position to give

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<v Speaker 1>her future brother in law a plum government job. The

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer funded arts body Creative Australia is being driven by

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<v Speaker 1>a political agenda. An exclusive analysis by The Australian shows

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<v Speaker 1>you can read those stories right now at the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>dot com dot au. Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>a six day trip to China in Shanghai on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>where he launched a tourism campaign designed to bring more

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese tourists to Australia. Today, Why the PM's hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with a former soccer rou and what Australia would do

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<v Speaker 1>if China and the US clashed over Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's off again. A second straight red card for Kevin Musker.

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<v Speaker 1>If Kevin Musket cared about red cards. His performance on

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes off the soccer field didn't show it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wild, reckless. He just flew into that tackle. He's mistimed

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<v Speaker 3>it horrendously. The Melbourne victory captain, it's a red card

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<v Speaker 3>and things go from bata use for the home side.

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<v Speaker 3>The referee in the game wants againscar. He walks a

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<v Speaker 3>fine line, Kevin Musket. This time he stepped down the route.

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<v Speaker 1>The brutal defender played forty six games for the Soccer

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<v Speaker 1>US from the mid nineteen nineties and a quick Google

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<v Speaker 1>search turned up a notorious reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we talk about that very quickly?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Was there a player that you were ever scared of?

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<v Speaker 3>There's been a coup work?

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<v Speaker 5>The player that you turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Up in Kevin Muscat, you're going to say, Kevin Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Moscats did these days. Musket is himself the manager

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<v Speaker 1>of a team, the Shanghai Port Football Club, who he's

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<v Speaker 1>coached to two Chinese Super League Premiership wins, and on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday he was on the welcoming committee greeting Anthony Alberanizi

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<v Speaker 1>on the first stop of the Prime Minister's six day

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<v Speaker 1>tour of China.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have a parliamentary football team.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not very good.

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<v Speaker 1>The PM is famously more of an NRL guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's hoping to leverage Musket's profile to entice more Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>tourists to Australia. The Australian's North Asia correspondent Will Glasgow

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<v Speaker 1>met the soccer super coach at the club's headquarters on

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Shanghai.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pleasure to meet him.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspected, I actually to him when I met him

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<v Speaker 2>a few months ago, that I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>he got a tap to be asked to meet the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister on this trip, because there just aren't very

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<v Speaker 2>many good stories like that of Australians doing well in

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<v Speaker 2>China right now.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very few on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's absolutely beloved amongst the fan base and has

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<v Speaker 2>done very good things at.

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<v Speaker 3>That club and clearly it's a club with a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Good culture at the moment and that's being set at

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<v Speaker 2>the top by Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not all about soccer. This week's visit to

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<v Speaker 1>China represents the longest bilateral visit Anthony Albanezi has made

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<v Speaker 1>in his time as Prime Minister. In the coming days,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll meet with President ji Jinping, Premier Li Chang and

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<v Speaker 1>National People's Congress Chairman Jao Lijeure.

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<v Speaker 2>Will.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of the focus of Anthony Albanese's trip to China

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<v Speaker 1>so far has been on tourism. But what's the overwriting

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of this visit.

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<v Speaker 2>China is a far and away Australia's biggest trade park.

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<v Speaker 3>It's our biggest customer.

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<v Speaker 2>China buys more from Australia than our next five biggest

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<v Speaker 2>markets combined.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a super mega market.

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<v Speaker 2>So the top economic priority is the Prime Minister coming

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<v Speaker 2>over here and celebrating that and defending that there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are pockets of growth, but it's hard now.

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<v Speaker 2>And the real worry for the Australian government is there

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<v Speaker 2>are signs that some are the real giants in the

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<v Speaker 2>trade relationship in what we export to China, and top

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<v Speaker 2>of that is iron ore. There are some signs that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that trade has peaked with China. That has just

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<v Speaker 2>grown and grown over decades and it's now worth more

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<v Speaker 2>than one hundred billion dollars a year. It's worth one

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<v Speaker 2>fifth of Australia's exports to the whole world. So it's enormous,

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<v Speaker 2>but the last few years it's gone down and there's

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<v Speaker 2>some reasons to worry that could be the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>a long structural trend. Not that it's going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>for Cliff, but that it might just gradually come down

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<v Speaker 2>year by year.

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<v Speaker 3>So that kind of four.

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<v Speaker 2>Can overwhelm the gains from a lot of these other

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<v Speaker 2>products that have been growing. There's other agricultural products that

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<v Speaker 2>came back after the ban years. So yeah, the trade

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<v Speaker 2>relationship in many ways is in a good state in

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<v Speaker 2>that there's no restrictions anymore. But you can now see

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<v Speaker 2>that there's certain segments in that export basket Australia has

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<v Speaker 2>to China that look like there might be some big

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<v Speaker 2>structural problems. And above all or the one that causes

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest worry, just because of how important it is

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<v Speaker 2>for the Australian economy and the Australian treasurer is iron Ore.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen executives from some of Australia's biggest companies are joining

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<v Speaker 1>the PM on the trip.

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<v Speaker 4>I've brought with me a whole range of business people

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<v Speaker 4>from the resources sector, the tourism sector, from the education sector.

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<v Speaker 4>Because one in four of Australian jobs is dependent upon

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<v Speaker 4>our export and overwhelmingly by far the largest destination for

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<v Speaker 4>Australian export is right here in China. That says something

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<v Speaker 4>about how important this relationship is.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost a third of them are in the iron ore

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<v Speaker 2>trade right. So there's the local boss of Rio Tinto,

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<v Speaker 2>the local boss of BHP, the chairman and founder Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Forest of ford es Q, So the three biggest Australian

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<v Speaker 2>iron ore miners, they're all coming over here in big,

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<v Speaker 2>serious senior ways. And there's also the head of Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>steel business, blue Scope, coming over here. He'll also be

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<v Speaker 2>involved with those other iron ore companies in conversations with

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese counterparts about green steel and green iron, about ways

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<v Speaker 2>of making steel and making iron that release less carbon

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<v Speaker 2>will use less So that's almost a third of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which again speaks to the oversized role of iron ore

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<v Speaker 2>and steelmaking in the Australia China relationship. There's also the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the BCA, and there's the head of Macquarie

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<v Speaker 2>Group and a senior exec from A and Z. A

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<v Speaker 2>and Z, for example, is one of the Australian banks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the one that had the biggest footprint in China.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's retrenched that they've sold almost all of their

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<v Speaker 2>operations in China years ago. So actually they're another one

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<v Speaker 2>who I'll be very interested to meet and talk to

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<v Speaker 2>to hear what are they seeing in China right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they do business with China.

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<v Speaker 2>They still work and do some business with Chinese business firms,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think the ambitions they've had have been downsized

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<v Speaker 2>a lot over the last decade. Now they might be

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<v Speaker 2>looking at some ways that they can grow certain segments

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But I'd be surprised actually if the finance

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<v Speaker 2>sector is looking at a big push into China.

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<v Speaker 3>But that look see, maybe they'll surprise me on this

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<v Speaker 3>trip coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>While Albo is in China, Beijing has eyes on Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>As Anthony Albanezi touchdown in China on the weekend, a

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<v Speaker 1>bilateral training exercise known as Talisman Saber got underway on

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's East Coast. It's the largest bilateral training exercise between

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian Defense Force and the US military, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>fair to say China is extremely interested in what plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>But in Shanghai, the Prime Minister was less forthcoming about

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<v Speaker 1>what role, if any Australia would play if a war

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<v Speaker 1>broke out between China and the US over Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have discussions with people which are private and

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<v Speaker 4>I keep it private. But on defense spending, Australia is

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<v Speaker 4>considerably increasing our defense spending and will continue to invest

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<v Speaker 4>in whatever we need to improve our capability.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not surprising that Anthony Albanesi, speaking in China, is

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<v Speaker 5>reticent to talk about a potential future war between the

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<v Speaker 5>US and China and what role that Australia would play

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<v Speaker 5>in it. I mean, even at the best of times,

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<v Speaker 5>the government really bats away these types of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Packham is the Australian's Foreign Affairs and Defense correspondent.

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<v Speaker 5>So Anthony ALBERESI he's really walking in diplomatic tightrope during

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<v Speaker 5>this trip between talking up the economic relationship with China,

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<v Speaker 5>which is vital to Australia's national interests, but also the

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<v Speaker 5>alliance we have with the US and what that could

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<v Speaker 5>mean in the future if the US and China come

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<v Speaker 5>to blows over Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend, The Financial Times reported the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Under Secretary for Defense Albridge Colby, the same guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>been putting the hard word on Australia to up defense

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<v Speaker 1>spending to three point five percent of GDP has been

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<v Speaker 1>pressing Australia and Japan on this very question.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister Colby's pretty forward leaning US defense bureaucrat. He's got

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<v Speaker 5>some long standing views on the US's need to push

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<v Speaker 5>its allies to really contribute to collective defense. He's on

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<v Speaker 5>the record of saying, why would we give Australia three

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<v Speaker 5>of our nuclear submarines when they might not be contributed

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<v Speaker 5>to a fight that we get in with China in

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<v Speaker 5>the coming years. There was a report in the Financial

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<v Speaker 5>Times that mister Colby was piling pressure on Australia and

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<v Speaker 5>Japan to clarify what role they would play if the

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<v Speaker 5>US and China went to war over Taiwan. Now, this

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<v Speaker 5>is despite the US's own policy of strategic ambiguity on

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<v Speaker 5>what it would do in terms of Taiwan contingency. But

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<v Speaker 5>Kolby has really endorsed that report, posting on social media

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<v Speaker 5>that Donald Trump is urging US allies to step up

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<v Speaker 5>their defense spending and other efforts in terms of our

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<v Speaker 5>collective defense. So he's really not walking away from this.

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<v Speaker 5>And all of this does raise some serious concerns I

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<v Speaker 5>think about how the Orchestra Review is going to shake out.

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<v Speaker 5>Koby is heading that review and it really could introduce

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<v Speaker 5>some new elements to the agreement that might be a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more onerous on Australia and we're really going

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<v Speaker 5>to have to just wait to see how that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of pans out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Packham is the Australian's Foreign Affairs and Defense correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>and Will Glasgow is our North Asia correspondent. They're on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground in China with Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read all their recording right now at the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian dot com dot au