WEBVTT - NRL 360 - Manly "Frustrated" with DCE as saga continues, Sexton's 'Harsh Reality' & The Panthers march back into premiership contention | 25/06/25 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.440 On to every sixty rugul league from every angle, join again. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:06.640 The great good and tallis has been the jas James 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.280 Hooper and Dave rick yal And what a huge game 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:09.920 it's going. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:10.800 To be tomorrow night. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.560 It is the Dogs taking on the Panthers right here 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.000 on Fox League. Big for the Panthers, the Panthers chasing 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.680 a top eight spot and possibly the unlikely five peet 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.360 and it starts tomorrow And I Gordy. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.440 Yeah, I was so close to writing them off. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.200 But they've back in the eight and they they went 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:30.960 over the ditch and had a great winn. And now 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.560 it's the Dogs one verse eight and it we couldn't 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:35.480 script it any better. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.000 Epic game and a lot of different subplots. You're at 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.280 Cameron Serraldo up against Divan Cleary, got the ex Panthers 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.720 in the Bulldogs side. Now in Stephen Crichton kick out Burton. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.280 Big job for Penrith. Well, they have got a relatively 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.120 I'm not going to say easy, but they can do it. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.600 I don't think they can win enough games to finish 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.600 in the top four, but I definitely think they're finishing 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:58.280 in the top eight. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.640 I think I was with you Gordy. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.240 Besides, you just about to right them off, just put 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.200 a big red line through them. But they've fixed their 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.560 defense because that was their problem early doors. They were 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.119 leaking points like Panther sides we haven't seen in recent times. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.800 And they've fixed that. They're right back on track. And 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.280 this is a really important game for the Dogs to 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.640 show where the dogs are at. But as far as 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.479 the Panthers are concerned, absolutely, they can not only make 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.440 the eight, they can go all the way. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.760 They could be that first team to win it outside 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:27.080 the fall. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.200 And this is their run home. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:35.160 As you can see, they've got the Bulldogs, Buy Eels, Rabbit, Os, West, Tigers, Titans, Knights, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.600 Storm and their last three of the Raiders, Dogs and Dragons. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.800 So it's quite the tough run home. They've got the 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.959 Dogs twice, they've got the Raiders, they've got the Storm. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.319 We just saw the numbers before this. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.840 They've got to win six out of ten on average. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.640 They've got to win six out of ten to make 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:50.200 the top eight. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.360 You wouldn't back against it, No, you wouldn't be brave enough. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:55.480 The guys. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.440 They're making the top eight. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.360 They're making the top eight from where they are now. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.800 Six out of ten to ten. No chance you'd think. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.920 They would, right, But it confirms to me how important 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.600 this game is tomorrow night. If they lose, that turns 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.160 into six from nine. Yeah, so you know that's that 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.720 makes it a lot tougher, right, So they would be 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.320 putting all their eggs into the basket for the tomorrow 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.480 night's game. And the dogs for them, they've got a 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.760 point to prove. Are they as good as what everyone's 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.799 saying they are? You know, they come up against a 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.080 team that have won four premierships, who are on the rise, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.040 and it could solidify how good they are going and 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.720 where they stand in his competition this year. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.639 And the battle off the field is intriguing as well. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.120 You've got Serrouto up against Ivan Gus up against his 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.880 old club, and the Penrith Boys playing against Penwouth Boys. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.480 Basically, I was coach Kevin Serroudo won't be rushed when 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.960 it comes to finding a permanent spot for the prize 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.400 signing of Lachlin Gallon. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.519 I think what we've done really well over the last 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.320 period is just take it one week at a time, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.640 nothing too far ahead. That's all I've done. This week, 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.040 we've got to buy to refresh, and he's been brilliant. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:00.680 He just says whatever, you know, I'm ready to go, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.720 And it's the type of people we want here. Probably 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.920 got Plan A, Plan B, Plan so again, but you 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.600 know he's there. It's a bit of insurance for our 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.000 backs and his plan. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.120 Possibly the using the lead in that heels game where 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.919 it comes on a behalf and Toaby. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.760 Goes to Ninemen. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.000 Yeah, possibly, can't say too much, fat it's good that 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.920 we've just yeah, we've got guys fighting positions and guys 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.920 that can play a number of positions and play different 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.320 number of different roles and do what's best for the team. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:30.800 Bulldog's cash Cameron Serroudo as usual, not giving much away. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.120 But what are they going to do with Lachlin Galvin 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.000 and when are they going to do it? 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.160 I think he finishes up in the number seven Jump 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.560 a breath, But I think the reason Siro is holding 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.640 his cards tight is because they've got to get through 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.000 this state of origin period. They're going to lose a 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.160 number of players back into the new South Wales side, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.240 most likely Matt Burton, even though he doesn't make the 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.560 final seventeen for the Blues. So they need to keep 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.720 Toby sext and happy and to do that, and in 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.920 fairness to Taby, his form war and Sid's good enough, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.680 but he does hold his position in the site at 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.760 the moment. But I think one state of origin is finished, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.440 then I think he has to make the hard, long call. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.080 It'll be Burton at six and it'll be Galvin et Ceca. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.080 Yeah, I agree, and probably more immediately this game tomorrow night. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:18.479 I think it is fluid. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.680 You know, we saw it in that in the most 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.520 recent performance that Galvin. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.000 Played where he came on and Reid Marty. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.039 Was taken from the field. We spoke about at that time. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.360 Reed was actually surprised that it unfolded that way. Toby 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.000 Sexton was surprised that he went to nine at the time. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.200 And I think it's the same again tomorrow. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.760 I think it's how the game is going and how 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.240 Galvin gets into the game. But long term, and even 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.080 at some point this season, Galvin will be starting in 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.120 the halves. He is the future of the Bulldogs in 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.080 the halves, and unlike Toby Sexton, who hasn't got a 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.800 contract next year. And that's the bottom line. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.280 It is a unique situation where a club that is 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.240 coming first, is still experimenting with what's going to be 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.680 the best formula heading into the finals and to possibly 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.160 make you run at the premiership. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.640 It doesn't happen too often. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.200 No, but that's a luxury and you think like we're guessing, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.320 but you think that's whoever's playing better out of the 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.960 nine and seven, the other one gets the hook like 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.480 it's pretty simple, like when you're sitting in the coaches box. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.279 But someone's feelings is going to get hurt. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.839 The other interesting thing around the whole halves can under 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.920 Im Gordy is Toby Sexton has been the starting halfback 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.360 for the Bulldogs for the entire season they lead the premiership, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.520 has played his form warrants selection in the side. But 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.640 what I find interesting is he's been off contract for 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.920 the entire season and his manager keeps yapping about all 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.120 these other contracts and several clubs a million dollar offers. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:47.120 It's all waffle. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.920 There isn't Actually we're yet to see another club formerly 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.800 table and offer for Toby. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.240 So that probably tells you. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.360 What hasn't any club sign him? And is there any 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.240 offers on the table? 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:58.560 No? 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.400 I don't think there are, and that's my point, that's 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.000 my point is that as good as he's playing, and 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.080 as much as he's held his gloves up and posted 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.000 above his weight this season, I think the fact that 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:13.320 other clubs haven't been forthcoming with offers showsure that they're 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.320 obviously also serned something else in Toby's game that they're 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.360 not entirely sold on. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.359 It's incredible that the harsh reality for Toby could be 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.479 that he's played the whole season at seven, as a 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.840 dominant seven, leading the competition, he could finish a new 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:25.600 South Wales Cup. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:26.839 Well, that is the reality. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.640 That is what will happen once they get through the 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:29.680 state of origin period. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.280 There is also there is also the chance that he 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.960 stays there and they continue to use Lachlan Galvin as 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.760 an X factor from the bench. Both did you not 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.719 win a camp with Jonathan Thurston on the bench who. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.080 Played it, who was very much. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:47.679 Not comparing. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.720 It's a possibility, but an. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.200 Ex factor from the bench, but they're not going to 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:53.520 do that. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.440 I don't think they'll do it, but it's not out 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:56.560 of the realms of possibility. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.840 Hoop, No, I don't think it happens. I think they 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.479 bought Galvin. I think they've the conversations with Galvin that 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.280 he will be wearing the seven jumper and I think, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.039 provided everybody gets through after the state of origin period 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.640 without injury concerns, Galvin's wearing the number seven jumper. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.440 I think if no contract offers come for sext and 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.000 from rival clubs, I wouldn't be shocked if the Dogs 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.440 still keep it, try and keep him for one year 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:20.160 on a cheap deal. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.080 Well, he does in fairtasy forms. He deserves to be 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.640 a great Yeah, yeah he does. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:27.360 He really does. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.320 And it's just it really is fascinating. I hope we're wrong. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.080 I hope he does play in the team. I hope 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.160 he does continue to be in that side, whether it's 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.960 in the starting team or off the bench. I'd love 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.880 them to use him and reward him for the hard 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.480 work he's put in and the success he's had under 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.600 pressure and a key position when no one really gave 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:47.200 him a chance. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:48.080 It says a. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.360 Lot about the respect and the buy and that Camra 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.400 Torado's got from that Bulldogs group. That Reidmarty wasn't happy 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.120 the other week, Toby Sexton might not be happy in 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.680 a couple of weeks once it all shakes out, but 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.120 he's still we all got them all dilled in and 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.040 invested in winning games. Tomorrow is huge if they front up, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.280 and I think it'll be a tight game. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:08.520 If they get another win. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.760 That's a big statement, huge for a number of reasons 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.520 for both clubs, the Hoops the Seagles. Now you've done 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.960 a bit of Dan today or throughout the week about 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.800 them and where they sit at the moment, and apparently 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:19.680 they are. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.760 Quite frustrated with DC and he's. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.640 Lack of I would say, I don't know to it 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.880 to make a decision here and to tell everyone what's 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.720 actually going on, who's playing for next year and how 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.120 long that is and all the rest of it. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.920 Right, Yeah, if I was Manly Braith, I think they've 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.679 got to make the tough decision and the hardline decision. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.760 They need to take the captaincy off daily Cherry Evans 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.960 and make Jake Traboyovitch the leader of that club because 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.680 he's the spiritual leader. Anyway, there's all sorts of factionalism 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:53.080 and infighting at the moment, and yes, from what I 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.680 can gather, I think in those seven minute speed dating 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:01.800 egg tim meetings that went on last while the reviews. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.560 I think that Anthony Sebold did speak daily about moving 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.880 like just ending the distraction, because he's getting asked about. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.400 It at ever, so it has Seabel gone to DCE 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.960 and said, mate, we've had enough. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.120 I don't know if he said we've had enough said. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.640 I think he said words to the effect of we 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.200 think it would help the group, the team and the 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.080 club if we could draw a line under it and 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:29.079 we had some clarity right and that everybody can actually 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:34.280 try and get our season. Well, he hasn't been forthcoming 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.559 as he because we haven't heard anything about it. He's 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.960 going to the Roosters, we all know that, but he 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.880 still doesn't want to for whatever reason, he wants to 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.480 go on with the game. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:43.120 Fellows. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.920 This is the situation the way I saw it when 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.120 all this broke in and around DC's contract. At the time, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.880 I was a firm believer that DC needed to stand 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.839 down from the Queensland State of Origin team to not 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.000 only prove to the wider public but also every single 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.280 manly fan that he was invested in trying to win 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.360 this premiership for the Seagulls. Now he didn't do that, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.719 which is absolutely justifiable on his behalf. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.559 We've then see him drop from the Queensland Origin team. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.319 His form has never been the same this season, ever 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.960 since the contract saga, and now we have this situation 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.440 where the club is having internal talks about stepping away 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.880 from the captaincy. How this has been handled has been 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.239 nothing short of shambalic. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.000 Really, you mean. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.680 The entire situation from day one on and until now 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.520 with still no clarity around DC's future. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.920 It's ridiculously been shambalic from. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:45.000 Club. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.480 And yeah, I would argue that, yeah, in relation to 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.560 this is a you know one, he's a club legend. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.520 And how it's got to this point in time to 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.600 hoops Hoops's development that they're having discussions about stripping of 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.400 the captaincy now, I mean, but they shouldn't be happy happening, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.920 but collegend halfway through? 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.360 So who should have made the call? Man Like, should 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.439 DC have said months ago where he was going? Or 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.600 should the club the club presty months ago and made 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.079 him make that decision, or they've. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.920 Used kid gloves on DCE to try and propel him 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:18.640 through this year. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.320 That's what I believe. It's back for anything, and it 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.440 as well clearly the. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.120 How other harsh reality is it could well end up 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.040 costing Anthony so Bold his second coming as an NRL coach, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.520 because they need to win Friday night against the West Tigers, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.200 and they need to back it up again the following 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.360 week at Brookvale in front of their home crowd at 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.280 four points against South Sydney. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.199 If they suffer two bad losses, I. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.080 Think the drums are beating and I think that mainly 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.640 may Well make a tough decision. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.959 The perception is that some of the players are off 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.200 the coach and some of the players were off each other. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.360 Is that true? Is there any truth to that? 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.240 I think a lot of that's true. I don't think 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.760 I've said it previously on R three sixty. I don't 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:04.160 think Jake traboy Itch and Daily Cherry Evans since Daily's decision. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.000 I don't think Jake's a massive fan of Anthony Seabolt 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.360 at the moment. I think Toddy's struggling with him to 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.920 a degree after being shifted to the centers and the 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.360 review that he had last week. And they're not the 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.640 lone Rangers either, Like, it's not a good setup. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.160 What you just said to me, it sounds horrible and 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.720 it probably explains why they are where they are now, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.760 it feels like it's like they've got to go backwards. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.160 They go forwards here like this is a bit of 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.040 a mess. Like even if they get rid of the coach, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.920 if you know the players, if they're off for each 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.839 other and on the same page too, that's an issue 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.679 in itself. You need you probably need a new leadership 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.160 kept to come in and just what the slate plant like. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.720 I'd say a bit of a mess As an understatement, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.680 I would say it's toxic at the moment. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.319 Yes to your question about leadership. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.920 That's why I'm saying they've got a daily As much 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.880 as he's been a great servant for Manly, he's been 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.000 well paid at the same time, but he's done them 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.640 a disservice this year with the way their season has 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.200 completely imploded based on his decision. We've never been told 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.480 the truth. We've never been told the real reasoning. I 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.160 know there's no problem with the coach, there's no problem 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.720 with the management. No, no, there's no problem with offers 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.079 or anything like that. I've just decided it's my decision 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.000 on going in. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:17.760 A different direction. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.439 It'll come out at some point, but it has completely 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.120 derailed and destabilized the Seagle season. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.960 And I don't know he needed to grow up. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.240 So once he made no one knew what happened before that. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.640 But once he made the decision, he's got to come 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.160 out and just own it, and then I think everybody 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.719 would move on. Has this affected Tommy Turbot? Is there 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.839 pressure on the club now to sign the legend even 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.319 though he's moved to center. Is there pressure on Manly 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:44.280 to get some good news? 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:50.120 I think the move to center actually delays the negotiation 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.840 phase of resigning Tommy Travoivitch. If we think back to 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.679 about three or four weeks ago, there was certainly discussion 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.200 at that time to push forward and try and resign 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:02.640 Tommy on a new. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.160 Deal we've spoken about here on the show. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.000 But now that he's moved to center, why a man 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.080 why would Manly or for that matter, why would his 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:16.720 management rush too Manly to re sign based on the 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.160 fact that he if he's a center, he's not earning 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.920 fullback money going forward. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.040 But he can still earn Tommy money. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:30.120 Tommy, well, depending on how this goes, Gordy had center, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.280 he's influenced. Well, Look, clearly, we know he's capable of 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:38.600 having an influence, but that positional change could delay negotiations, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:39.040 No doubt. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.680 I think you'll get overs because of the time he's 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.760 put in there and the player that he is, he'll 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.560 get more than the usual story. So you know he's 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.640 not going to get He'll get a lot less than 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.840 he would have fall back, but he's going to get more, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.320 a lot more than the average center you would think, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.000 right or not. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.200 I think the styler like that Tommy is and the 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.400 service that he's already given the club, he'll understand that. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.840 He understands the stage that he's at. He's twenty nine now. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.600 I've seen him interview this week and he's saying all 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.720 the right things and he's putting up a brave front. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.160 I thought the CEO Tony Mestrov probout a little bit 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.000 of a loose carry last week when he came out 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.640 and said Sebes is safe at this point, and then 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.560 he's tried to wind it back and hit reverse and 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.640 smother it up this week with the no, no, that's 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.560 not right. He'll be our coach until the end of 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.720 twenty six, twenty seven. Well, I just don't see that upening. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.960 Just off the back of that, the sea Bowl succession 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.160 plan he's micking a fat compleee or are there others 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:35.640 in the mix? 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.800 I don't think mis a fader comploye, not that manly 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.280 certainly haven't had those conversations over the course the last 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:44.080 twelve months. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.120 I think there's a push from. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.680 The old boys for ex players like Chad Randall, who's 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.800 doing a very good job at Canterbury Banks down at 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.160 the moment under Cameron Surreldo started his coaching career at 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.240 the Seagulls, and also Matt Ballen who's up at the Bronco. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.560 And just as this question, what why are clubs doing 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.560 their work in the dark and you watch Brisbane, it's 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.200 a big brand. They could have opened it up, wouldn't 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.920 you think, mainly with the club that they are if 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.520 they're going to get rid of Anthony sid but don't 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.360 you open it up to see who comes out of 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:13.920 the woodwork. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.320 I don't like the different factions of old boys suggesting 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.920 this or putting this person forward, like as a leadership group, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.920 as a board, be professional and seek every option you 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.320 possibly can and do as much research as you can 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.160 to see who is the next best coach and who 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.280 would be best fitted and suited to our club, and 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.200 what do we need in the coach that's going to 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.640 bring out the best in us instead of our all 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.560 he's an old boy, you played for us, Yep, we 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:39.080 want that. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.680 That doesn't always work. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.560 At a lot of clubs know what they want and 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.760 they just go get the coach they want. They know 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.480 what their club and character is about, what they stand for, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.840 what style of coach makes this ticket our club, and 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.440 they go get them. We saw it happen with the 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.840 Bulldogs wanting Cameron Serata. We saw it at the Sharks 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.560 wanting Craig Fitzgibbon. They know what they want mainly should 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:00.040 know who they. 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:01.440 Are, they are and what they want. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.080 Historically, some clubs just go for the new shiny toy 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.560 or the biggest and best and whatever it may be, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:08.119 but it may. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.800 Not suit their club. It's like players, it's what players. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.240 Are going to fit into your group as well, and 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.720 what's going to bring out the best of the guy 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.680 next to him and the coaches similar well. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.480 In fairness, Camera Tororodo was the best shorty toy when 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.800 Gusts signed him at the Bulldogs, but the first season 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.200 that he had coming in as a defensive coach, and 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.920 I think they looked seven hundred and fifty. It was 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:30.000 a record number of points that at that stage, I 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.399 think the jury was still out there. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:36.880 But he grew, He took Max to the roster, inherited, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.480 made hard decisions, done the work, you know, And it 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.080 comes back to the coaches that have put the prep in, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.760 done the work, had the experience of success and failure, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.879 seen at first hand, worked under the best coaches in 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.879