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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm actually Bynes.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level
Speaker 2: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, find
Speaker 2: the lessons to grow and glow. Nothing is off the
Speaker 2: table with Grow and Glow, and I'm here to be
Speaker 2: your expander. Hello everybody, welcome back to Grow and Glow.
Speaker 2: It's Ashley, your host, and I've also got Katie, my
Speaker 2: producer here. Hello guys. Today we've got a mystery episode,
Speaker 2: which I always get so nervous for these. We've only
Speaker 2: done one other one, But like, I just don't know
Speaker 2: what you're gonna ask me.
Speaker 1: Because I ask you the questions that I think everybody
Speaker 1: else wants to know, but that I think will be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for you to answer.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm like sweating already. But before we get
Speaker 2: into it, we've got our shares of the week.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna think that you told me to say this,
Speaker 1: but my share of the week is honestly something that
Speaker 1: I have been using that I absolutely swear by and love.
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with the Hideaway Black Sugar.
Speaker 2: Oh you love it, just love it.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a dupe of the YSL Black Opius.
Speaker 1: I've only got the moisturizer. Yeah, it smells like you've
Speaker 1: got perfume one and a moisturizer.
Speaker 2: Literally. So we just launched our Black Friday sale and
Speaker 2: on Shopify you can see the top selling item and
Speaker 2: the top selling fragrance. Top selling item and fragrance is
Speaker 2: the perfume in the black sugar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure You've got some beautiful fragrances, so
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in smelling the other flavors because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once you get your favorite, that's it.
Speaker 1: And I literally I put it on after my shower
Speaker 1: and then I put it on again before bed, just
Speaker 1: so yummy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my share of the week.
Speaker 2: I love it. Mine is just to get clear on
Speaker 2: your non negotiables and kind of act as if they
Speaker 2: are a personal contract to yourself. When you think about
Speaker 2: a contract, you were signing something over that you were
Speaker 2: committing to, whether it's a bank loan, whether it's a
Speaker 2: business contrac act, whatever it is, like, you are signing
Speaker 2: that and you stick with it because you legally have
Speaker 2: to make your non negotiables like a contract. It's a
Speaker 2: personal contract to yourself that you cannot miss, whether it's
Speaker 2: taking your supplements, whether it's committing to your three gym
Speaker 2: classes a week or meditation, whatever you are feeling like
Speaker 2: you need. If you think about it like a personal contract,
Speaker 2: it's just it's a non negotiable you have to do it.
Speaker 1: I've done that recently with my four K walker day, like,
Speaker 1: I absolutely have to do it, Like yesterday Sunday, I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. I think when you have that mindset,
Speaker 2: you just you make it happen. Yeah, And if something's
Speaker 2: important to you, I feel like you will always make
Speaker 2: it happen. If it's not that important, you'll make an
Speaker 2: excuse or you'll find a story, or you'll justify why
Speaker 2: you can't do it. When it's that important to you
Speaker 2: and you've got a contract in place with yourself, nothing
Speaker 2: will get in the way. Yep. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 2: get into it. I'm sad.
Speaker 1: I'll ease you intently though. Okay, some easy ones. If
Speaker 1: you had to get rid of your looks or your brand,
Speaker 1: which would it be.
Speaker 2: Oh, looks or brand? Probably looks? Okay, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I'm not a soupermodel. I don't think people are here
Speaker 2: for my looks. I think they're need more for my depth,
Speaker 2: my conversations and cool products that I bring out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like easy one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, what's your biggest insecurity?
Speaker 2: Oh looks wise? Yeah, probably you guys gonna laugh. Probably
Speaker 2: my saggy jowls. I feel like as I get older,
Speaker 2: my jowls are just like sagging. And I get botox
Speaker 2: in my massades once a year for my grinding of
Speaker 2: my teeth, and apparently if you get that, it makes
Speaker 2: these muscles quite lazy, so they drop more. I'm thirty
Speaker 2: six in a month's time, so I feel like these
Speaker 2: are just dropping dramatically, and I hate it.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that you notice about yourself
Speaker 1: that other people don't notice.
Speaker 2: I reckon and the eyelid's too, sorry, which Steve was like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I showed him like, as I
Speaker 2: get older, my eyelids are getting heavy, and sometimes if
Speaker 2: I'm really tired, I struggle to see out of my
Speaker 2: left one, And when I pointed out to him, he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can see, it's like your skin kind of folds over.
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, that I did.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I had that, and I did get the surgery.
Speaker 2: Oh you did. What's it called bleffor uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is upper eyelid surgery. I call it to
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: I think I will get that in the next couple
Speaker 2: of years, because yeah, as I get older, the skin
Speaker 2: drops more. And yeah, it does affect your eyesight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not just how it looks. I don't like how
Speaker 2: it looks, but it's also does affect to how much
Speaker 2: you see. So if you're really tired, like this skin
Speaker 2: I feel like just folds over more. So they're probably
Speaker 2: things a lot of people don't see, but.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I love the saying if only you could see
Speaker 1: yourself how everybody else sees you, that's beautiful. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you lost your social media following tomorrow, how would you
Speaker 1: deal with not having an audience?
Speaker 2: I'm in two minds about. I think not having social
Speaker 2: media in general would be a very quiet life. Like
Speaker 2: when we went to Eden and we experienced four days
Speaker 2: of being off our phones. I felt so peaceful and
Speaker 2: so connected to myself and to nature and just calm.
Speaker 2: I let my whole nerve. It was like a full
Speaker 2: nervous system reset. So I feel like life would be
Speaker 2: very peaceful, especially with I feel like the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, it's felt a lot, so probably wouldn't be
Speaker 2: too mad about it. But then in saying that, like
Speaker 2: I share so much on there, I connect, I learned
Speaker 2: so much, Like I follow so many cool pages. It
Speaker 2: would be hard business wise, but I would not hesitate
Speaker 2: to start again and start fresh. I have full confidence
Speaker 2: that I would attract and bring in the right people
Speaker 2: and we could grow it again. It'd be harder, though.
Speaker 1: Do you ever worry about oversharing, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to your kids.
Speaker 2: I get asked quite a lot yes or no. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I'm also pretty in tune with when
Speaker 2: my kids want to be on camera and don't want
Speaker 2: to be on camera. Tarlet at the moment, she's like
Speaker 2: Boto camera, like smoothie time. She wants to do the
Speaker 2: videos like she loves it, whereas Taj, at the moment
Speaker 2: is a little bit more doesn't want to be on
Speaker 2: camera unless it's for his YouTube channel. So I actually
Speaker 2: had a comment last week and it was like, clearly
Speaker 2: you've got a favorite child because you always show Tarlet
Speaker 2: and not Taj. I was like, oh, that's so interesting
Speaker 2: how someone else can interpreted that, but he doesn't actually
Speaker 2: want to be in the SMOOTHI videos, and he's at
Speaker 2: school all day, so like, I don't have a lot
Speaker 2: more opportunity to even put him on camera, But I
Speaker 2: don't stress about it too much. If they want to
Speaker 2: be on camera, cool, If they don't know worries. But
Speaker 2: I think we're growing up in a world where social
Speaker 2: media and online is such a big part of most
Speaker 2: people's work and job, and it's not something we can
Speaker 2: really avoid, yeah, at all. But you know, when I
Speaker 2: get a comment saying, oh, your kids seem so perfect.
Speaker 2: You never show them having tantrums, I don't pull out
Speaker 2: my phone when they're having a tantrum. I respect their
Speaker 2: privacy and that much. I don't ever post Haarler just
Speaker 2: and her nappy's, Like I'm cautious of that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: But day to day, acute moments and fun things I
Speaker 2: don't mind sharing.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting that people would comment saying that you
Speaker 1: obviously have a favorite child because that's the one you're
Speaker 1: posting on the title. We all know kids. Like, if
Speaker 1: kids don't want to be a part of it, they're
Speaker 1: not going to be a part of it. It's even
Speaker 1: hard to get a photo with your kids all spelling
Speaker 1: and like it's impressible and you see the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of actually what you're wrangling to do get that
Speaker 1: perfect shot.
Speaker 2: I know, and people just make up their own stories.
Speaker 2: Like even when I took Targe to Europe's like, I
Speaker 2: got the same comments. Clearly you have a favorite chart.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he's just older and I wanted that
Speaker 2: quality time with him because since Tyler's come along and
Speaker 2: she takes up a lot of space and energy. She's
Speaker 2: a toddler, She's on me all the time. People will
Speaker 2: take from social media what they want to take here.
Speaker 1: What's your least favorite social media app?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's really hard. Gosh, they've all got pros and
Speaker 2: cons least favorite. I feel like the bullying on Instagram
Speaker 2: is more okay because people can create actual pages about you.
Speaker 2: And that's been my experience Snapchat, I don't really see
Speaker 2: any bullying. I'll say Instagram okay. I find TikTok more addictives,
Speaker 2: though I love TikTok. I love the videos like parenting stuff, comedy.
Speaker 2: I feel like people are more raw and authentic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like Instagram's very aesthetic, like everyone wants to
Speaker 2: look beautiful. The page look beautiful? Was TikTok's just like
Speaker 2: this is who I am, and like they're just themselves
Speaker 2: and I love that. Which one do you have the
Speaker 2: biggest following on? Facebook? Actually? Facebook, I've got like three
Speaker 2: point three million, but I don't even post on there anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't really feel connected on my Facebook fan page, Okay,
Speaker 2: it blew up a long time ago, and I just,
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't feel as connected. Snapchat's like my ogs.
Speaker 2: I feel like they've been with me the longest and
Speaker 2: the most connected. I've shared the most on Snapchat. Instagram's
Speaker 2: just always there, and TikTok's just a bit rogue, like
Speaker 2: I don't really have a content planned for that or
Speaker 2: just post whatever whenever, and it's just a fun out
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: So, if Facebook's the one you've got the biggest following on,
Speaker 1: is that the one you make more money on or not? Necessarily?
Speaker 2: No, I make money on Snapchat just being on Snapchat, Instagram.
Speaker 2: If I do a collaboration, Facebook converts the best when
Speaker 2: it comes to ads, say for hideaway. What's the other one, TikTok?
Speaker 2: I don't make money on TikTok?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently the Creative Fund is coming to Australia for
Speaker 2: TikTok so. In America they have a creative fund that like,
Speaker 2: no matter what you upload, depending on how many views
Speaker 2: you get, you get paid. So if you have one
Speaker 2: video that goes viral, you can make that, which would
Speaker 2: be so cool also to get paid for that, and
Speaker 2: YouTube are don't make any money either, but I'm not
Speaker 2: really on that consistently.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, interesting, Okay, here's a harder hitting question. This
Speaker 1: is about Baseline. Was Baseline still making as much money
Speaker 1: and was that a factor in closing it down?
Speaker 2: When I first launched Baseline, we had like a million
Speaker 2: dollar launchers, so definitely was not that as it went on.
Speaker 2: So no, it wasn't making as much money. Did it
Speaker 2: still make money? Yes, But I think there's so many
Speaker 2: factors in that. Like through COVID, e commerce spiked. Everyone
Speaker 2: got all this money from the government, people just spending left,
Speaker 2: right and center. Everyone I know, the owned business. It
Speaker 2: was like this huge spike, and then when that ended,
Speaker 2: it got harder. Also now I think in the active
Speaker 2: web space it's so oversaturated. Every fast fashion brand has
Speaker 2: their own active red label, Like every influencer is doing
Speaker 2: something similar. So I think it is harder, and you
Speaker 2: know what, like my passion for running the business dropped.
Speaker 2: Wasn't putting in as much time and effort. I didn't
Speaker 2: feel excited, and I think your audience can kind of
Speaker 2: feel that. But it was still a huge business. It
Speaker 2: was still making great money. But was the money worth
Speaker 2: me continuing on? No, especially when with all my health stuff.
Speaker 2: If I didn't have the brain surgery and aneurysm news,
Speaker 2: I probably would have kept going okay for a bit
Speaker 2: longer until I burnt out. And it leads me on
Speaker 2: to my next question, because my next question is could
Speaker 2: you have hired someone to take on more of the
Speaker 2: work or even sold the brand? Selling for me personally, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's an option, but it wasn't an option because I
Speaker 2: had surgery quite soon after when I close it down.
Speaker 2: I don't think people realize how much you have to
Speaker 2: train someone up to take over a brand. That is
Speaker 2: huge amount of time and energy. So there's that factor,
Speaker 2: because I got like seventeen offers for it. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people that want to take it over.
Speaker 2: The second part was that if someone took it over
Speaker 2: and then they started doing like ugly collections or just
Speaker 2: things that I didn't like. It was always going to
Speaker 2: be tied back to my name. Yeap. I don't think
Speaker 2: I I could continue, like visually watching someone else take
Speaker 2: over my brand, So selling was never an option for me.
Speaker 2: The money that I would have got for someone buying
Speaker 2: out wasn't worth it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's almost like making your business into a franchise
Speaker 1: and then having other people get in charge of it
Speaker 1: and then not doing it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a risk. Yeah, it's a risk. And I
Speaker 2: don't think I could have emotionally unplugged. So I think
Speaker 2: I would have been watching and stalking and like seeing
Speaker 2: what they're up to, and I think it would have
Speaker 2: like consumed me. And the big reason of me closing
Speaker 2: down Baseline was because I just needed to create space
Speaker 2: for my health and for my family. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to have more stress or anything on my shoulders while
Speaker 2: I was recovering. Yeah okay, so yes, in hindsight, I
Speaker 2: probably could have hired someone to take over and do
Speaker 2: more of the roles. But once again, it still comes
Speaker 2: back to me emotionally unplugging. I don't think I could have,
Speaker 2: and even when I hired more staff, I was still
Speaker 2: that central person that everyone came to all the time.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a story, Maybe you can step away, But
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I could just step away and
Speaker 2: have someone else make all the decisions. I was still
Speaker 2: very heavily involved in every part of it, and I
Speaker 2: just needed to unplug. I just felt intuitively the universe
Speaker 2: was like giving me signs that I needed to make changes.
Speaker 1: All it would have taken is for someone to bring
Speaker 1: out a really ugly pair of tips and the.
Speaker 2: Ugly type bring front scenes back. You know. I would
Speaker 2: have been like, no, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which of your businesses has made the most money past
Speaker 1: or present?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it would be Hideaway now I think so,
Speaker 2: but yeah, the act of where it was huge, Like
Speaker 2: still pinch myself that I look back and we had
Speaker 2: me into launchers, so that's crazy. But Hideaway is absolutely thriving.
Speaker 2: So I would say Hideaway so good.
Speaker 1: And since you've introduced perfumes as well, it's like gone
Speaker 1: next level.
Speaker 2: It was a combination. Hey, it was like I had
Speaker 2: never really been fully involved with Hideaway. I'd like poke
Speaker 2: my head in and help with marketing and like obviously
Speaker 2: posted and been involved. But when I close down Baseline
Speaker 2: and I have my surgery and I recovered. I then
Speaker 2: stepped into Hideaway. We had the perfumes come on board,
Speaker 2: we hired a content creator, we had another graphic designer
Speaker 2: because we were getting so busy. Steve used to work
Speaker 2: at home also, and this year he's worked in the office,
Speaker 2: so he's really got this beautiful team culture. That's I
Speaker 2: think he's led really well. So I think a combination
Speaker 2: of all of that together has just made it explode,
Speaker 2: which is really cool, really really cool.
Speaker 1: And introducing the black sugar fragrance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the perfumes in general, it's crazy. Every single order
Speaker 2: has a perfume in it, Like I never would think
Speaker 2: that could be our number one selling product, and it
Speaker 2: is by far. Yeah. I'm even going into wholesaling, which
Speaker 2: is cool.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, that's so exciting. What's the biggest
Speaker 1: business mistake you've ever made?
Speaker 2: Probably not hiring people that are suited for that position.
Speaker 2: I think in the past, and this is like going
Speaker 2: back fifteen years. Throughout my time, I've made this mistake
Speaker 2: over and over again, where I've hired friends or family
Speaker 2: or someone out of fear. And I recently nearly hired
Speaker 2: another nanny because nanny's leaving because I was scared that
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have enough time for my current I need
Speaker 2: to train this one. And then when I really tuned
Speaker 2: and I was like, this isn't the right fit. So
Speaker 2: I think in the past I've been in a rush
Speaker 2: and I've just hired them because I've been scared. But
Speaker 2: you really are gonna learn the hard way. You really
Speaker 2: can see how having the right or wrong people in
Speaker 2: there can really make or break your business. Ye, your
Speaker 2: staff are so important. You've got to have the right
Speaker 2: people in there. That's probably been the biggest mistakes I've made.
Speaker 1: Is it true that you once went bankrupt?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, my gosh, where did you get that from?
Speaker 2: Is that just Google? Really? No? No, we have not
Speaker 2: been bankrupt. Okay, awesome, And there'd be more public knowledge
Speaker 2: and my lifestyle probably would have changed if I went bankrupt. Yeah. No,
Speaker 2: How funny.
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting what you can find when you start.
Speaker 2: Oh I've seen on Google that I got butt implants.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what a ripoff? Where are they? I don't
Speaker 2: have an ass, Like, what are you talking about. There's
Speaker 2: a rumor at the moment that Taj is Thor's son.
Speaker 2: I saw the other day Megan's partner because they look
Speaker 2: so alike. Godess, it was a rumor ages ago. I'm
Speaker 2: one of my old friends Greg. He's gay and we
Speaker 2: used to call him gun Call. Taj would call him
Speaker 2: gun Call, the gay uncle, And there was a rumor
Speaker 2: that I had slept with Greg and Greg was Taj's
Speaker 2: dad because they looked alike. So Google is funny sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's lots on there.
Speaker 1: Who's the most disappointing celebrity or influencer you've ever met?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean I don't go to a lot of
Speaker 2: events these days. I'm trying to think back of a
Speaker 2: previous one. No, I'm not going to say the name.
Speaker 2: I don't want to put anyone under the bus. But
Speaker 2: there has been a couple that I've really loved following online,
Speaker 2: and they've come across very outgoing and friendly, and then
Speaker 2: at an event they don't talk to anyone or like
Speaker 2: they're very cold. I'm like, oh shit, Yeah. And then
Speaker 2: there's been one that the whole group just felt like
Speaker 2: this one particular girl just felt like she was a
Speaker 2: lot better than everyone else, and she treated everyone not
Speaker 2: very nicely. But otherwise, most people I meet are really lovely,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: People also don't realize necessarily that when you see somebody
Speaker 1: online or whether be online or you know, whatever their
Speaker 1: job is, if it's an extroverts job, a lot of
Speaker 1: those people can actually be quite introverted in real life.
Speaker 1: So when you're in a public situation at an event
Speaker 1: or something where there's lots of people, often those people
Speaker 1: are a bit withdrawn because they've gone that social anxiety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I almost hesitated answering your question because I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that they were not friendly, because
Speaker 1: I understand that some people are not great in group environments,
Speaker 1: or they've got social anxiety, or you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: think people don't.
Speaker 2: Like them and they're too scared to talk. So who
Speaker 2: knows why. But yeah, I can't say there's been a
Speaker 2: really bad experience with anyone. I'm sure you wanted a story,
Speaker 2: but I wanted the tea and I wouldn't throw any
Speaker 2: under under the bus anyway.
Speaker 1: What's the most hurtful comment someone's written on social media recently?
Speaker 2: There's been a couple. I suppose someone called me greedy.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, which is really interesting.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about you when I first
Speaker 1: met you, and I think there are assumptions about you know,
Speaker 1: the fact that you have a large following, the fact
Speaker 1: that you have had successful businesses and maybe make some
Speaker 1: good money and that kind of thing. I think there's
Speaker 1: assumptions that you are a certain way. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've met many people that are really wanting to support
Speaker 1: other people and want the best for them, especially women.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of generosity and being loyalty of friends.
Speaker 1: And that's an impressive thing about you.
Speaker 2: Thank you all my friends, like I want nothing more
Speaker 2: than for them to succeed, be happy, but also to
Speaker 2: be financially free as well. I grew up with not
Speaker 2: a lot of money. We were homeless at one point.
Speaker 2: I was out of home when I was sixteen. The
Speaker 2: stress of money and how you're going to pay your
Speaker 2: bills is a stress like no other. So if there's
Speaker 2: any way, and I've done this so many of my friends,
Speaker 2: any way that I can help them by growing their
Speaker 2: following or investing into their businesses, or hosting for them consistently,
Speaker 2: whatever I can do to help support them, I have
Speaker 2: and will always do. My mom used to say to
Speaker 2: me when I was little, like what do you want
Speaker 2: to be when you grow up, I would say, I
Speaker 2: want to help people, whether it's health and fitness, whether
Speaker 2: it's with money, whether it's with like resources, or whether
Speaker 2: it's like just chatting on here. I just love helping.
Speaker 2: I think contribution is just such a high value of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really lights me up.
Speaker 1: When we chatted about your new co host for the podcast.
Speaker 1: Obviously we sell sponsorship and advertising into the podcast, which
Speaker 1: mostly pays for production, but we do do, like just
Speaker 1: to give people the Noldnes the year. Behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: we do do a revenue split, which obviously you share
Speaker 1: with your co host. We suggested to you as a
Speaker 1: podcast company that you should take a higher split because
Speaker 1: you've built the audience. So you've built the podcast over
Speaker 1: the last two years. You've built the audience, and somebody
Speaker 1: else is coming in with it already made, and you
Speaker 1: turn around to me and said, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. It needs to be fifty to fifty. We're
Speaker 1: both in it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really interesting for people to know,
Speaker 1: because I don't think that's something that you would tell anyone.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just goes to show that's the kind.
Speaker 2: Of think you. I hate that comment. Around greedy too
Speaker 2: when it comes to money, because I feel like people
Speaker 2: look at people that have more than the normal, like
Speaker 2: have a lot of money, and they're looked at as
Speaker 2: if they're greedy. But I think money just amplifies everything,
Speaker 2: including generosity. The more money I have, the more I give. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the more bigger audience I have, the more people I
Speaker 2: can help, the more money I have, the more cool
Speaker 2: things I can do for the people that I love.
Speaker 2: It just amplifies everything. So I don't think wealthy people
Speaker 2: are greedy. I'm sure there's some, but maybe they've been
Speaker 2: hurt and burned in the past as well. There's probably
Speaker 2: a story behind why they're like that. But for me, yeah,
Speaker 2: the more money I have, the more I can help
Speaker 2: people and do cool stuff for them and with them.
Speaker 2: To the point where my Mum and Steve are like,
Speaker 2: you do not have to pay for your friends to
Speaker 2: do that, Like, why are you doing that? You know
Speaker 2: they own their own money. I'm like, because I just
Speaker 2: have always said if I've got money, I will use
Speaker 2: it to help people.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and do you think that's also from coming
Speaker 1: from not having as much as a child?
Speaker 2: Hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Now, it's all a bonus.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Definitely. It is all a bonus. And
Speaker 2: I don't have an attachment to money anymore. Like, yes,
Speaker 2: I have my safety net that I like to keep
Speaker 2: in the banked, Like no, I can pay my bills
Speaker 2: and everything, but everything else is a bonus. And I
Speaker 2: just think money's energy. It comes and goes. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any point in holding on to large amounts
Speaker 2: of money to be eighty in my death, beend and
Speaker 2: be like oh yeah, ye, save that money. I'd rather
Speaker 2: be able to help my friends and help people that
Speaker 2: need it, and build memories and go on holidays and
Speaker 2: create cool stuff that's living to me.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite part of yourself?
Speaker 2: Probably my generosity speaking about that, probably my generosity and
Speaker 2: my ability to listen. I feel like I'm a really
Speaker 2: good communicator and I can really hold space for anyone
Speaker 2: and everyone. Yeah. I feel like I draw people in
Speaker 2: that need to shoulder to cry on. And I love
Speaker 2: that because I have a lot of space and a
Speaker 2: lot of time for everyone. Yeah, yeah, I agree with
Speaker 2: Like I'm literally still in my DMS fifteen years later
Speaker 2: and I still voice message women on the daily with
Speaker 2: questions with helping I love it.
Speaker 1: What about looks wise? What's your favorite physical feature?
Speaker 2: Probably my eyes. They're like this weird green yellow color,
Speaker 2: and Taj has exactly the same, Like if you put
Speaker 2: our eyes next to each other, I call them snake eyes.
Speaker 2: They're like green with this bright yellow ring and they
Speaker 2: just think they're really rare and really cool and different.
Speaker 1: I've got one more question for you. Do you poo
Speaker 1: with the door open?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do. Steve and I had been together fifteen years.
Speaker 2: There's no hiding nothing, and then like even oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: too much information. But I know this audience is mainly females,
Speaker 2: including you, So when you've got a todd lay, you
Speaker 2: don't go the toilet by yourself. They're there all the time.
Speaker 2: And the other day I was changing my tampon. She looks,
Speaker 2: she goes ew, mummy, that's yaky. I was like, how'd
Speaker 2: you go? Then stop looking, and now she sees like
Speaker 2: a tampon laying around. She will literally like, oh no,
Speaker 2: put her legs upon and be like mummy. Look. I
Speaker 2: was like, no, you don't need that now, darling. But
Speaker 2: she like washes everything I do. Yet not yet. We
Speaker 2: don't hide anything from each other.
Speaker 1: Very comfortable when you're a mom, it's a luxury to
Speaker 1: go to the toilet on your own.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, isn't it yup and going to the
Speaker 2: toil in front of your partner. I've heard people say
Speaker 2: that it can ruin your sex life but doesn't affect ours,
Speaker 2: So real good what about you? Do you?
Speaker 1: This is not about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would have known now? Yeah? I do
Speaker 2: door open or closed open? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I'm over closed up bathroom door.
Speaker 2: I can't see Jay closing the door. Nah, he's such
Speaker 2: a cruiser. Whatever. Nah, it's so funny. That wasn't too bad.
Speaker 1: Shocked a few of them. I was like, she's not
Speaker 1: gonna want to answer that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bankruptcy one makes me laugh, Like, I'd love
Speaker 2: to see where you've even seen that online? And then
Speaker 2: the hardest comment on social media. I find comments about
Speaker 2: my kids really hard because I just feel like it's
Speaker 2: so unfair. He's nine and she's two, and you're making
Speaker 2: comments about what they look like. Yep, it's like come on.
Speaker 1: It's also that whole conversation around being what's that keyboard warrior?
Speaker 1: Like being behind because you would never say that to
Speaker 1: one in real life. You would never see someone in
Speaker 1: real life and go your kids ugly.
Speaker 2: No, oh my goodness, you would never. No, that's really tough.
Speaker 2: But I don't get that very often. I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: in gossip pages, which I don't ever go into. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think anything to do with kids is really hard.
Speaker 2: If people pay out of my looks, it honestly does
Speaker 2: not bother me one bit. It's like straight over my head. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that is the least my worries, Like I don't
Speaker 2: care about that stuff about my family. Or when you're
Speaker 2: going through something hard like this friendship breakdown, it's like
Speaker 2: you're already struggling, you're already hurting. To have other people's
Speaker 2: noise and opinions, it just like adds another layer. Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Thank you for answering them.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I can't wait to do this with our
Speaker 2: next co host. Yeah, she's very open behind closed doors,
Speaker 2: but she hasn't been like speaking in front of an
Speaker 2: audience like this, sharing all of her deepest, darker secrets.
Speaker 2: She's wanting to do that more. Obviously you wouldn't come
Speaker 2: onto a podcast if you weren't. But I think she'll
Speaker 2: be like really taken back by some of the questions.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll dig deep. Yeah, I'll do some research and
Speaker 1: we'll aspare the hard hitting questions in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: All right, well, thanks for joining us, Thank you, see
Speaker 2: you next time. Bye bye