1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. 2 00:00:12,041 --> 00:00:14,721 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm actually Bynes. 3 00:00:15,041 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,041 Speaker 2: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, find 5 00:00:21,041 --> 00:00:23,921 Speaker 2: the lessons to grow and glow. Nothing is off the 6 00:00:23,921 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: table with Grow and Glow, and I'm here to be 7 00:00:25,801 --> 00:00:33,041 Speaker 2: your expander. Hello everybody, welcome back to Grow and Glow. 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: It's Ashley, your host, and I've also got Katie, my 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,361 Speaker 2: producer here. Hello guys. Today we've got a mystery episode, 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,281 Speaker 2: which I always get so nervous for these. We've only 11 00:00:40,321 --> 00:00:42,201 Speaker 2: done one other one, But like, I just don't know 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: what you're gonna ask me. 13 00:00:43,521 --> 00:00:46,481 Speaker 1: Because I ask you the questions that I think everybody 14 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: else wants to know, but that I think will be 15 00:00:48,601 --> 00:00:49,921 Speaker 1: uncomfortable for you to answer. 16 00:00:50,361 --> 00:00:53,561 Speaker 2: That's why I'm like sweating already. But before we get 17 00:00:53,601 --> 00:00:55,001 Speaker 2: into it, we've got our shares of the week. 18 00:00:56,601 --> 00:00:59,241 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna think that you told me to say this, 19 00:00:59,481 --> 00:01:01,881 Speaker 1: but my share of the week is honestly something that 20 00:01:01,921 --> 00:01:05,841 Speaker 1: I have been using that I absolutely swear by and love. 21 00:01:05,961 --> 00:01:10,321 Speaker 1: I am obsessed with the Hideaway Black Sugar. 22 00:01:10,441 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Oh you love it, just love it. 23 00:01:13,081 --> 00:01:16,841 Speaker 1: And I know it's a dupe of the YSL Black Opius. 24 00:01:17,081 --> 00:01:19,721 Speaker 1: I've only got the moisturizer. Yeah, it smells like you've 25 00:01:19,721 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: got perfume one and a moisturizer. 26 00:01:21,601 --> 00:01:24,401 Speaker 2: Literally. So we just launched our Black Friday sale and 27 00:01:24,521 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: on Shopify you can see the top selling item and 28 00:01:27,481 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: the top selling fragrance. Top selling item and fragrance is 29 00:01:31,761 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: the perfume in the black sugar. 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure You've got some beautiful fragrances, so 31 00:01:37,241 --> 00:01:40,081 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in smelling the other flavors because. 32 00:01:40,881 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, once you get your favorite, that's it. 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,801 Speaker 1: And I literally I put it on after my shower 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,881 Speaker 1: and then I put it on again before bed, just 35 00:01:48,121 --> 00:01:48,721 Speaker 1: so yummy. 36 00:01:48,921 --> 00:01:49,481 Speaker 2: Yeah. 37 00:01:49,601 --> 00:01:51,681 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my share of the week. 38 00:01:52,081 --> 00:01:54,881 Speaker 2: I love it. Mine is just to get clear on 39 00:01:54,921 --> 00:01:57,281 Speaker 2: your non negotiables and kind of act as if they 40 00:01:57,321 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: are a personal contract to yourself. When you think about 41 00:02:00,161 --> 00:02:02,441 Speaker 2: a contract, you were signing something over that you were 42 00:02:02,441 --> 00:02:04,441 Speaker 2: committing to, whether it's a bank loan, whether it's a 43 00:02:04,441 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: business contrac act, whatever it is, like, you are signing 44 00:02:06,881 --> 00:02:09,121 Speaker 2: that and you stick with it because you legally have 45 00:02:09,201 --> 00:02:12,481 Speaker 2: to make your non negotiables like a contract. It's a 46 00:02:12,481 --> 00:02:15,481 Speaker 2: personal contract to yourself that you cannot miss, whether it's 47 00:02:15,481 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: taking your supplements, whether it's committing to your three gym 48 00:02:18,161 --> 00:02:20,761 Speaker 2: classes a week or meditation, whatever you are feeling like 49 00:02:20,841 --> 00:02:23,441 Speaker 2: you need. If you think about it like a personal contract, 50 00:02:23,441 --> 00:02:26,481 Speaker 2: it's just it's a non negotiable you have to do it. 51 00:02:26,921 --> 00:02:30,041 Speaker 1: I've done that recently with my four K walker day, like, 52 00:02:30,161 --> 00:02:33,001 Speaker 1: I absolutely have to do it, Like yesterday Sunday, I 53 00:02:33,041 --> 00:02:34,401 Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm doing it. 54 00:02:34,641 --> 00:02:37,081 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. I think when you have that mindset, 55 00:02:37,161 --> 00:02:39,601 Speaker 2: you just you make it happen. Yeah, And if something's 56 00:02:39,641 --> 00:02:41,721 Speaker 2: important to you, I feel like you will always make 57 00:02:41,761 --> 00:02:44,001 Speaker 2: it happen. If it's not that important, you'll make an 58 00:02:44,001 --> 00:02:46,441 Speaker 2: excuse or you'll find a story, or you'll justify why 59 00:02:46,481 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: you can't do it. When it's that important to you 60 00:02:48,601 --> 00:02:51,041 Speaker 2: and you've got a contract in place with yourself, nothing 61 00:02:51,041 --> 00:02:53,761 Speaker 2: will get in the way. Yep. Yeah, all right, let's 62 00:02:53,761 --> 00:02:54,761 Speaker 2: get into it. I'm sad. 63 00:02:55,441 --> 00:02:59,921 Speaker 1: I'll ease you intently though. Okay, some easy ones. If 64 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,081 Speaker 1: you had to get rid of your looks or your brand, 65 00:03:02,201 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: which would it be. 66 00:03:03,441 --> 00:03:09,561 Speaker 2: Oh, looks or brand? Probably looks? Okay, Yeah, I mean 67 00:03:09,601 --> 00:03:11,481 Speaker 2: I'm not a soupermodel. I don't think people are here 68 00:03:11,481 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: for my looks. I think they're need more for my depth, 69 00:03:13,481 --> 00:03:16,641 Speaker 2: my conversations and cool products that I bring out, Yeah, 70 00:03:16,881 --> 00:03:17,961 Speaker 2: like easy one. 71 00:03:18,081 --> 00:03:20,561 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, what's your biggest insecurity? 72 00:03:20,881 --> 00:03:26,241 Speaker 2: Oh looks wise? Yeah, probably you guys gonna laugh. Probably 73 00:03:26,321 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: my saggy jowls. I feel like as I get older, 74 00:03:29,601 --> 00:03:32,521 Speaker 2: my jowls are just like sagging. And I get botox 75 00:03:32,561 --> 00:03:34,801 Speaker 2: in my massades once a year for my grinding of 76 00:03:34,841 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: my teeth, and apparently if you get that, it makes 77 00:03:36,921 --> 00:03:40,321 Speaker 2: these muscles quite lazy, so they drop more. I'm thirty 78 00:03:40,321 --> 00:03:42,401 Speaker 2: six in a month's time, so I feel like these 79 00:03:42,401 --> 00:03:45,321 Speaker 2: are just dropping dramatically, and I hate it. 80 00:03:45,441 --> 00:03:47,921 Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that you notice about yourself 81 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:49,081 Speaker 1: that other people don't notice. 82 00:03:49,161 --> 00:03:52,241 Speaker 2: I reckon and the eyelid's too, sorry, which Steve was like, 83 00:03:52,281 --> 00:03:54,401 Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I showed him like, as I 84 00:03:54,441 --> 00:03:56,641 Speaker 2: get older, my eyelids are getting heavy, and sometimes if 85 00:03:56,641 --> 00:03:58,521 Speaker 2: I'm really tired, I struggle to see out of my 86 00:03:59,121 --> 00:04:01,601 Speaker 2: left one, And when I pointed out to him, he's like, oh, 87 00:04:01,681 --> 00:04:03,641 Speaker 2: I can see, it's like your skin kind of folds over. 88 00:04:03,681 --> 00:04:05,921 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, that I did. 89 00:04:06,041 --> 00:04:08,761 Speaker 1: I yeah, I had that, and I did get the surgery. 90 00:04:08,961 --> 00:04:11,561 Speaker 2: Oh you did. What's it called bleffor uh? 91 00:04:13,961 --> 00:04:17,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is upper eyelid surgery. I call it to 92 00:04:17,281 --> 00:04:17,641 Speaker 1: say it. 93 00:04:17,761 --> 00:04:19,321 Speaker 2: I think I will get that in the next couple 94 00:04:19,361 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: of years, because yeah, as I get older, the skin 95 00:04:22,041 --> 00:04:25,601 Speaker 2: drops more. And yeah, it does affect your eyesight. Yeah, 96 00:04:25,841 --> 00:04:27,761 Speaker 2: it's not just how it looks. I don't like how 97 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:30,041 Speaker 2: it looks, but it's also does affect to how much 98 00:04:30,041 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: you see. So if you're really tired, like this skin 99 00:04:32,681 --> 00:04:35,641 Speaker 2: I feel like just folds over more. So they're probably 100 00:04:35,681 --> 00:04:37,081 Speaker 2: things a lot of people don't see, but. 101 00:04:37,281 --> 00:04:41,681 Speaker 1: Exactly, I love the saying if only you could see 102 00:04:41,721 --> 00:04:47,121 Speaker 1: yourself how everybody else sees you, that's beautiful. Yeah, if 103 00:04:47,161 --> 00:04:50,041 Speaker 1: you lost your social media following tomorrow, how would you 104 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:51,761 Speaker 1: deal with not having an audience? 105 00:04:53,761 --> 00:04:56,281 Speaker 2: I'm in two minds about. I think not having social 106 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,041 Speaker 2: media in general would be a very quiet life. Like 107 00:04:59,081 --> 00:05:01,521 Speaker 2: when we went to Eden and we experienced four days 108 00:05:01,521 --> 00:05:04,841 Speaker 2: of being off our phones. I felt so peaceful and 109 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,641 Speaker 2: so connected to myself and to nature and just calm. 110 00:05:08,681 --> 00:05:10,161 Speaker 2: I let my whole nerve. It was like a full 111 00:05:10,201 --> 00:05:13,601 Speaker 2: nervous system reset. So I feel like life would be 112 00:05:13,761 --> 00:05:15,961 Speaker 2: very peaceful, especially with I feel like the last couple 113 00:05:15,961 --> 00:05:18,121 Speaker 2: of weeks, it's felt a lot, so probably wouldn't be 114 00:05:18,121 --> 00:05:20,201 Speaker 2: too mad about it. But then in saying that, like 115 00:05:20,281 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: I share so much on there, I connect, I learned 116 00:05:22,561 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: so much, Like I follow so many cool pages. It 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: would be hard business wise, but I would not hesitate 118 00:05:28,481 --> 00:05:31,001 Speaker 2: to start again and start fresh. I have full confidence 119 00:05:31,041 --> 00:05:32,921 Speaker 2: that I would attract and bring in the right people 120 00:05:32,961 --> 00:05:35,361 Speaker 2: and we could grow it again. It'd be harder, though. 121 00:05:35,801 --> 00:05:38,761 Speaker 1: Do you ever worry about oversharing, especially when it comes 122 00:05:38,801 --> 00:05:39,601 Speaker 1: to your kids. 123 00:05:40,521 --> 00:05:43,121 Speaker 2: I get asked quite a lot yes or no. I 124 00:05:43,161 --> 00:05:46,241 Speaker 2: don't think so. I'm also pretty in tune with when 125 00:05:46,281 --> 00:05:47,761 Speaker 2: my kids want to be on camera and don't want 126 00:05:47,761 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: to be on camera. Tarlet at the moment, she's like 127 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:52,521 Speaker 2: Boto camera, like smoothie time. She wants to do the 128 00:05:52,601 --> 00:05:54,641 Speaker 2: videos like she loves it, whereas Taj, at the moment 129 00:05:54,761 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: is a little bit more doesn't want to be on 130 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,121 Speaker 2: camera unless it's for his YouTube channel. So I actually 131 00:05:59,121 --> 00:06:00,681 Speaker 2: had a comment last week and it was like, clearly 132 00:06:00,721 --> 00:06:03,041 Speaker 2: you've got a favorite child because you always show Tarlet 133 00:06:03,161 --> 00:06:05,601 Speaker 2: and not Taj. I was like, oh, that's so interesting 134 00:06:05,601 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: how someone else can interpreted that, but he doesn't actually 135 00:06:08,601 --> 00:06:10,041 Speaker 2: want to be in the SMOOTHI videos, and he's at 136 00:06:10,041 --> 00:06:11,841 Speaker 2: school all day, so like, I don't have a lot 137 00:06:11,841 --> 00:06:14,001 Speaker 2: more opportunity to even put him on camera, But I 138 00:06:14,001 --> 00:06:15,681 Speaker 2: don't stress about it too much. If they want to 139 00:06:15,681 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: be on camera, cool, If they don't know worries. But 140 00:06:17,641 --> 00:06:20,041 Speaker 2: I think we're growing up in a world where social 141 00:06:20,041 --> 00:06:22,761 Speaker 2: media and online is such a big part of most 142 00:06:22,801 --> 00:06:25,921 Speaker 2: people's work and job, and it's not something we can 143 00:06:25,961 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: really avoid, yeah, at all. But you know, when I 144 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,721 Speaker 2: get a comment saying, oh, your kids seem so perfect. 145 00:06:31,761 --> 00:06:34,281 Speaker 2: You never show them having tantrums, I don't pull out 146 00:06:34,281 --> 00:06:36,041 Speaker 2: my phone when they're having a tantrum. I respect their 147 00:06:36,041 --> 00:06:38,761 Speaker 2: privacy and that much. I don't ever post Haarler just 148 00:06:38,801 --> 00:06:41,001 Speaker 2: and her nappy's, Like I'm cautious of that kind of stuff, 149 00:06:41,361 --> 00:06:43,521 Speaker 2: But day to day, acute moments and fun things I 150 00:06:43,521 --> 00:06:44,321 Speaker 2: don't mind sharing. 151 00:06:44,601 --> 00:06:48,281 Speaker 1: It's so interesting that people would comment saying that you 152 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,841 Speaker 1: obviously have a favorite child because that's the one you're 153 00:06:50,841 --> 00:06:53,641 Speaker 1: posting on the title. We all know kids. Like, if 154 00:06:53,721 --> 00:06:55,401 Speaker 1: kids don't want to be a part of it, they're 155 00:06:55,401 --> 00:06:57,001 Speaker 1: not going to be a part of it. It's even 156 00:06:57,081 --> 00:07:00,121 Speaker 1: hard to get a photo with your kids all spelling 157 00:07:00,241 --> 00:07:02,681 Speaker 1: and like it's impressible and you see the behind the 158 00:07:02,681 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: scenes of actually what you're wrangling to do get that 159 00:07:05,481 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: perfect shot. 160 00:07:06,481 --> 00:07:08,521 Speaker 2: I know, and people just make up their own stories. 161 00:07:08,521 --> 00:07:10,441 Speaker 2: Like even when I took Targe to Europe's like, I 162 00:07:10,521 --> 00:07:12,801 Speaker 2: got the same comments. Clearly you have a favorite chart. 163 00:07:12,841 --> 00:07:14,441 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he's just older and I wanted that 164 00:07:14,521 --> 00:07:17,481 Speaker 2: quality time with him because since Tyler's come along and 165 00:07:17,561 --> 00:07:19,281 Speaker 2: she takes up a lot of space and energy. She's 166 00:07:19,281 --> 00:07:21,921 Speaker 2: a toddler, She's on me all the time. People will 167 00:07:21,961 --> 00:07:23,721 Speaker 2: take from social media what they want to take here. 168 00:07:24,041 --> 00:07:26,601 Speaker 1: What's your least favorite social media app? 169 00:07:26,881 --> 00:07:30,481 Speaker 2: Oh, it's really hard. Gosh, they've all got pros and 170 00:07:30,521 --> 00:07:34,961 Speaker 2: cons least favorite. I feel like the bullying on Instagram 171 00:07:35,241 --> 00:07:39,881 Speaker 2: is more okay because people can create actual pages about you. 172 00:07:39,921 --> 00:07:43,041 Speaker 2: And that's been my experience Snapchat, I don't really see 173 00:07:43,041 --> 00:07:46,721 Speaker 2: any bullying. I'll say Instagram okay. I find TikTok more addictives, 174 00:07:46,721 --> 00:07:51,401 Speaker 2: though I love TikTok. I love the videos like parenting stuff, comedy. 175 00:07:51,841 --> 00:07:53,881 Speaker 2: I feel like people are more raw and authentic. Yeah, 176 00:07:53,881 --> 00:07:56,281 Speaker 2: I feel like Instagram's very aesthetic, like everyone wants to 177 00:07:56,281 --> 00:07:59,401 Speaker 2: look beautiful. The page look beautiful? Was TikTok's just like 178 00:07:59,601 --> 00:08:01,601 Speaker 2: this is who I am, and like they're just themselves 179 00:08:01,601 --> 00:08:03,241 Speaker 2: and I love that. Which one do you have the 180 00:08:03,281 --> 00:08:07,401 Speaker 2: biggest following on? Facebook? Actually? Facebook, I've got like three 181 00:08:07,441 --> 00:08:10,321 Speaker 2: point three million, but I don't even post on there anymore. 182 00:08:10,681 --> 00:08:14,521 Speaker 2: I don't really feel connected on my Facebook fan page, Okay, 183 00:08:14,721 --> 00:08:17,161 Speaker 2: it blew up a long time ago, and I just, 184 00:08:17,521 --> 00:08:20,561 Speaker 2: I don't know, don't feel as connected. Snapchat's like my ogs. 185 00:08:20,881 --> 00:08:22,561 Speaker 2: I feel like they've been with me the longest and 186 00:08:22,601 --> 00:08:26,121 Speaker 2: the most connected. I've shared the most on Snapchat. Instagram's 187 00:08:26,161 --> 00:08:28,521 Speaker 2: just always there, and TikTok's just a bit rogue, like 188 00:08:28,521 --> 00:08:30,721 Speaker 2: I don't really have a content planned for that or 189 00:08:30,721 --> 00:08:32,801 Speaker 2: just post whatever whenever, and it's just a fun out 190 00:08:32,841 --> 00:08:33,041 Speaker 2: for me. 191 00:08:33,681 --> 00:08:36,481 Speaker 1: So, if Facebook's the one you've got the biggest following on, 192 00:08:37,001 --> 00:08:39,641 Speaker 1: is that the one you make more money on or not? Necessarily? 193 00:08:39,881 --> 00:08:43,881 Speaker 2: No, I make money on Snapchat just being on Snapchat, Instagram. 194 00:08:43,961 --> 00:08:47,721 Speaker 2: If I do a collaboration, Facebook converts the best when 195 00:08:47,721 --> 00:08:50,921 Speaker 2: it comes to ads, say for hideaway. What's the other one, TikTok? 196 00:08:51,361 --> 00:08:52,521 Speaker 2: I don't make money on TikTok? 197 00:08:52,921 --> 00:08:53,401 Speaker 1: Interesting? 198 00:08:53,561 --> 00:08:56,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently the Creative Fund is coming to Australia for 199 00:08:56,841 --> 00:08:59,121 Speaker 2: TikTok so. In America they have a creative fund that like, 200 00:08:59,601 --> 00:09:01,721 Speaker 2: no matter what you upload, depending on how many views 201 00:09:01,761 --> 00:09:03,481 Speaker 2: you get, you get paid. So if you have one 202 00:09:03,561 --> 00:09:06,081 Speaker 2: video that goes viral, you can make that, which would 203 00:09:06,081 --> 00:09:08,681 Speaker 2: be so cool also to get paid for that, and 204 00:09:08,721 --> 00:09:10,561 Speaker 2: YouTube are don't make any money either, but I'm not 205 00:09:10,601 --> 00:09:11,601 Speaker 2: really on that consistently. 206 00:09:12,081 --> 00:09:17,441 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, interesting, Okay, here's a harder hitting question. This 207 00:09:17,481 --> 00:09:21,081 Speaker 1: is about Baseline. Was Baseline still making as much money 208 00:09:21,641 --> 00:09:24,041 Speaker 1: and was that a factor in closing it down? 209 00:09:24,601 --> 00:09:27,721 Speaker 2: When I first launched Baseline, we had like a million 210 00:09:27,761 --> 00:09:31,561 Speaker 2: dollar launchers, so definitely was not that as it went on. 211 00:09:32,401 --> 00:09:34,361 Speaker 2: So no, it wasn't making as much money. Did it 212 00:09:34,361 --> 00:09:36,841 Speaker 2: still make money? Yes, But I think there's so many 213 00:09:36,881 --> 00:09:40,681 Speaker 2: factors in that. Like through COVID, e commerce spiked. Everyone 214 00:09:40,721 --> 00:09:42,881 Speaker 2: got all this money from the government, people just spending left, 215 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:45,281 Speaker 2: right and center. Everyone I know, the owned business. It 216 00:09:45,321 --> 00:09:47,281 Speaker 2: was like this huge spike, and then when that ended, 217 00:09:47,641 --> 00:09:50,921 Speaker 2: it got harder. Also now I think in the active 218 00:09:50,921 --> 00:09:55,481 Speaker 2: web space it's so oversaturated. Every fast fashion brand has 219 00:09:55,481 --> 00:09:58,641 Speaker 2: their own active red label, Like every influencer is doing 220 00:09:58,721 --> 00:10:01,481 Speaker 2: something similar. So I think it is harder, and you 221 00:10:01,521 --> 00:10:04,721 Speaker 2: know what, like my passion for running the business dropped. 222 00:10:05,161 --> 00:10:07,361 Speaker 2: Wasn't putting in as much time and effort. I didn't 223 00:10:07,361 --> 00:10:10,001 Speaker 2: feel excited, and I think your audience can kind of 224 00:10:10,001 --> 00:10:12,561 Speaker 2: feel that. But it was still a huge business. It 225 00:10:12,601 --> 00:10:15,241 Speaker 2: was still making great money. But was the money worth 226 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:18,321 Speaker 2: me continuing on? No, especially when with all my health stuff. 227 00:10:18,321 --> 00:10:21,761 Speaker 2: If I didn't have the brain surgery and aneurysm news, 228 00:10:22,001 --> 00:10:24,081 Speaker 2: I probably would have kept going okay for a bit 229 00:10:24,121 --> 00:10:26,761 Speaker 2: longer until I burnt out. And it leads me on 230 00:10:26,761 --> 00:10:29,441 Speaker 2: to my next question, because my next question is could 231 00:10:29,441 --> 00:10:32,041 Speaker 2: you have hired someone to take on more of the 232 00:10:32,081 --> 00:10:36,921 Speaker 2: work or even sold the brand? Selling for me personally, Yes, 233 00:10:36,961 --> 00:10:39,441 Speaker 2: it's an option, but it wasn't an option because I 234 00:10:39,481 --> 00:10:42,481 Speaker 2: had surgery quite soon after when I close it down. 235 00:10:43,041 --> 00:10:44,761 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize how much you have to 236 00:10:44,801 --> 00:10:47,321 Speaker 2: train someone up to take over a brand. That is 237 00:10:47,561 --> 00:10:50,241 Speaker 2: huge amount of time and energy. So there's that factor, 238 00:10:50,561 --> 00:10:53,241 Speaker 2: because I got like seventeen offers for it. Okay, Yeah, 239 00:10:53,681 --> 00:10:54,921 Speaker 2: a lot of people that want to take it over. 240 00:10:55,401 --> 00:10:57,401 Speaker 2: The second part was that if someone took it over 241 00:10:57,961 --> 00:11:00,561 Speaker 2: and then they started doing like ugly collections or just 242 00:11:00,601 --> 00:11:02,561 Speaker 2: things that I didn't like. It was always going to 243 00:11:02,561 --> 00:11:04,801 Speaker 2: be tied back to my name. Yeap. I don't think 244 00:11:04,841 --> 00:11:08,081 Speaker 2: I I could continue, like visually watching someone else take 245 00:11:08,081 --> 00:11:11,161 Speaker 2: over my brand, So selling was never an option for me. 246 00:11:11,201 --> 00:11:12,961 Speaker 2: The money that I would have got for someone buying 247 00:11:13,001 --> 00:11:14,561 Speaker 2: out wasn't worth it. Okay. 248 00:11:15,081 --> 00:11:18,921 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's almost like making your business into a franchise 249 00:11:18,961 --> 00:11:20,681 Speaker 1: and then having other people get in charge of it 250 00:11:20,721 --> 00:11:22,001 Speaker 1: and then not doing it as well. 251 00:11:22,081 --> 00:11:24,521 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a risk. Yeah, it's a risk. And I 252 00:11:24,521 --> 00:11:27,761 Speaker 2: don't think I could have emotionally unplugged. So I think 253 00:11:27,761 --> 00:11:30,041 Speaker 2: I would have been watching and stalking and like seeing 254 00:11:30,041 --> 00:11:31,201 Speaker 2: what they're up to, and I think it would have 255 00:11:31,281 --> 00:11:33,801 Speaker 2: like consumed me. And the big reason of me closing 256 00:11:33,841 --> 00:11:36,081 Speaker 2: down Baseline was because I just needed to create space 257 00:11:36,121 --> 00:11:38,481 Speaker 2: for my health and for my family. I didn't want 258 00:11:38,521 --> 00:11:40,761 Speaker 2: to have more stress or anything on my shoulders while 259 00:11:40,841 --> 00:11:44,001 Speaker 2: I was recovering. Yeah okay, so yes, in hindsight, I 260 00:11:44,121 --> 00:11:47,241 Speaker 2: probably could have hired someone to take over and do 261 00:11:47,441 --> 00:11:49,921 Speaker 2: more of the roles. But once again, it still comes 262 00:11:49,921 --> 00:11:52,241 Speaker 2: back to me emotionally unplugging. I don't think I could have, 263 00:11:52,281 --> 00:11:54,761 Speaker 2: and even when I hired more staff, I was still 264 00:11:54,801 --> 00:11:57,641 Speaker 2: that central person that everyone came to all the time. 265 00:11:57,961 --> 00:12:00,001 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a story, Maybe you can step away, But 266 00:12:00,681 --> 00:12:02,561 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I could just step away and 267 00:12:02,601 --> 00:12:05,041 Speaker 2: have someone else make all the decisions. I was still 268 00:12:05,321 --> 00:12:08,721 Speaker 2: very heavily involved in every part of it, and I 269 00:12:08,761 --> 00:12:12,601 Speaker 2: just needed to unplug. I just felt intuitively the universe 270 00:12:12,681 --> 00:12:14,761 Speaker 2: was like giving me signs that I needed to make changes. 271 00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:17,681 Speaker 1: All it would have taken is for someone to bring 272 00:12:17,721 --> 00:12:22,401 Speaker 1: out a really ugly pair of tips and the. 273 00:12:23,081 --> 00:12:25,201 Speaker 2: Ugly type bring front scenes back. You know. I would 274 00:12:25,201 --> 00:12:29,721 Speaker 2: have been like, no, yeah. 275 00:12:28,521 --> 00:12:32,281 Speaker 1: Which of your businesses has made the most money past 276 00:12:32,481 --> 00:12:32,961 Speaker 1: or present? 277 00:12:33,561 --> 00:12:39,641 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it would be Hideaway now I think so, 278 00:12:40,001 --> 00:12:42,561 Speaker 2: but yeah, the act of where it was huge, Like 279 00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:44,401 Speaker 2: still pinch myself that I look back and we had 280 00:12:44,401 --> 00:12:49,921 Speaker 2: me into launchers, so that's crazy. But Hideaway is absolutely thriving. 281 00:12:50,201 --> 00:12:52,041 Speaker 2: So I would say Hideaway so good. 282 00:12:52,801 --> 00:12:55,601 Speaker 1: And since you've introduced perfumes as well, it's like gone 283 00:12:55,681 --> 00:12:56,201 Speaker 1: next level. 284 00:12:56,361 --> 00:12:58,401 Speaker 2: It was a combination. Hey, it was like I had 285 00:12:58,441 --> 00:13:01,161 Speaker 2: never really been fully involved with Hideaway. I'd like poke 286 00:13:01,241 --> 00:13:03,321 Speaker 2: my head in and help with marketing and like obviously 287 00:13:03,361 --> 00:13:07,001 Speaker 2: posted and been involved. But when I close down Baseline 288 00:13:07,001 --> 00:13:09,361 Speaker 2: and I have my surgery and I recovered. I then 289 00:13:09,361 --> 00:13:12,081 Speaker 2: stepped into Hideaway. We had the perfumes come on board, 290 00:13:12,081 --> 00:13:15,321 Speaker 2: we hired a content creator, we had another graphic designer 291 00:13:15,321 --> 00:13:17,801 Speaker 2: because we were getting so busy. Steve used to work 292 00:13:17,801 --> 00:13:20,041 Speaker 2: at home also, and this year he's worked in the office, 293 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:22,761 Speaker 2: so he's really got this beautiful team culture. That's I 294 00:13:22,761 --> 00:13:25,601 Speaker 2: think he's led really well. So I think a combination 295 00:13:25,681 --> 00:13:28,521 Speaker 2: of all of that together has just made it explode, 296 00:13:28,761 --> 00:13:30,881 Speaker 2: which is really cool, really really cool. 297 00:13:31,241 --> 00:13:33,321 Speaker 1: And introducing the black sugar fragrance. 298 00:13:33,441 --> 00:13:36,041 Speaker 2: Yeah, the perfumes in general, it's crazy. Every single order 299 00:13:36,041 --> 00:13:38,201 Speaker 2: has a perfume in it, Like I never would think 300 00:13:38,241 --> 00:13:39,961 Speaker 2: that could be our number one selling product, and it 301 00:13:40,081 --> 00:13:42,881 Speaker 2: is by far. Yeah. I'm even going into wholesaling, which 302 00:13:42,921 --> 00:13:43,281 Speaker 2: is cool. 303 00:13:43,441 --> 00:13:47,241 Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, that's so exciting. What's the biggest 304 00:13:47,281 --> 00:13:49,961 Speaker 1: business mistake you've ever made? 305 00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:53,561 Speaker 2: Probably not hiring people that are suited for that position. 306 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:55,641 Speaker 2: I think in the past, and this is like going 307 00:13:55,641 --> 00:13:59,001 Speaker 2: back fifteen years. Throughout my time, I've made this mistake 308 00:13:59,081 --> 00:14:01,081 Speaker 2: over and over again, where I've hired friends or family 309 00:14:01,161 --> 00:14:04,161 Speaker 2: or someone out of fear. And I recently nearly hired 310 00:14:04,281 --> 00:14:06,561 Speaker 2: another nanny because nanny's leaving because I was scared that 311 00:14:06,601 --> 00:14:08,881 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have enough time for my current I need 312 00:14:08,881 --> 00:14:10,921 Speaker 2: to train this one. And then when I really tuned 313 00:14:10,921 --> 00:14:13,801 Speaker 2: and I was like, this isn't the right fit. So 314 00:14:13,841 --> 00:14:16,281 Speaker 2: I think in the past I've been in a rush 315 00:14:16,401 --> 00:14:19,161 Speaker 2: and I've just hired them because I've been scared. But 316 00:14:19,201 --> 00:14:21,801 Speaker 2: you really are gonna learn the hard way. You really 317 00:14:21,921 --> 00:14:24,601 Speaker 2: can see how having the right or wrong people in 318 00:14:24,641 --> 00:14:27,281 Speaker 2: there can really make or break your business. Ye, your 319 00:14:27,321 --> 00:14:30,001 Speaker 2: staff are so important. You've got to have the right 320 00:14:30,001 --> 00:14:32,361 Speaker 2: people in there. That's probably been the biggest mistakes I've made. 321 00:14:33,001 --> 00:14:34,921 Speaker 1: Is it true that you once went bankrupt? 322 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:37,081 Speaker 2: No? Oh, my gosh, where did you get that from? 323 00:14:37,161 --> 00:14:40,601 Speaker 2: Is that just Google? Really? No? No, we have not 324 00:14:40,641 --> 00:14:43,761 Speaker 2: been bankrupt. Okay, awesome, And there'd be more public knowledge 325 00:14:43,761 --> 00:14:47,241 Speaker 2: and my lifestyle probably would have changed if I went bankrupt. Yeah. No, 326 00:14:47,481 --> 00:14:48,001 Speaker 2: How funny. 327 00:14:48,241 --> 00:14:50,081 Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting what you can find when you start. 328 00:14:50,081 --> 00:14:52,681 Speaker 2: Oh I've seen on Google that I got butt implants. 329 00:14:52,721 --> 00:14:55,681 Speaker 2: I'm like, what a ripoff? Where are they? I don't 330 00:14:55,681 --> 00:14:58,121 Speaker 2: have an ass, Like, what are you talking about. There's 331 00:14:58,121 --> 00:15:01,361 Speaker 2: a rumor at the moment that Taj is Thor's son. 332 00:15:01,441 --> 00:15:03,521 Speaker 2: I saw the other day Megan's partner because they look 333 00:15:03,601 --> 00:15:06,441 Speaker 2: so alike. Godess, it was a rumor ages ago. I'm 334 00:15:06,441 --> 00:15:08,841 Speaker 2: one of my old friends Greg. He's gay and we 335 00:15:08,921 --> 00:15:10,801 Speaker 2: used to call him gun Call. Taj would call him 336 00:15:10,801 --> 00:15:12,881 Speaker 2: gun Call, the gay uncle, And there was a rumor 337 00:15:12,921 --> 00:15:15,361 Speaker 2: that I had slept with Greg and Greg was Taj's 338 00:15:15,441 --> 00:15:19,841 Speaker 2: dad because they looked alike. So Google is funny sometimes. Yeah, 339 00:15:19,961 --> 00:15:20,841 Speaker 2: there's lots on there. 340 00:15:21,241 --> 00:15:25,561 Speaker 1: Who's the most disappointing celebrity or influencer you've ever met? 341 00:15:25,881 --> 00:15:29,961 Speaker 2: Oh? I mean I don't go to a lot of 342 00:15:30,001 --> 00:15:31,881 Speaker 2: events these days. I'm trying to think back of a 343 00:15:31,961 --> 00:15:34,801 Speaker 2: previous one. No, I'm not going to say the name. 344 00:15:35,481 --> 00:15:37,001 Speaker 2: I don't want to put anyone under the bus. But 345 00:15:37,081 --> 00:15:40,281 Speaker 2: there has been a couple that I've really loved following online, 346 00:15:40,281 --> 00:15:43,281 Speaker 2: and they've come across very outgoing and friendly, and then 347 00:15:43,361 --> 00:15:44,961 Speaker 2: at an event they don't talk to anyone or like 348 00:15:45,001 --> 00:15:48,561 Speaker 2: they're very cold. I'm like, oh shit, Yeah. And then 349 00:15:48,561 --> 00:15:50,841 Speaker 2: there's been one that the whole group just felt like 350 00:15:50,841 --> 00:15:53,481 Speaker 2: this one particular girl just felt like she was a 351 00:15:53,481 --> 00:15:55,441 Speaker 2: lot better than everyone else, and she treated everyone not 352 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:59,481 Speaker 2: very nicely. But otherwise, most people I meet are really lovely, 353 00:16:00,161 --> 00:16:00,601 Speaker 2: I think. 354 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:04,201 Speaker 1: People also don't realize necessarily that when you see somebody 355 00:16:04,241 --> 00:16:07,121 Speaker 1: online or whether be online or you know, whatever their 356 00:16:07,201 --> 00:16:10,041 Speaker 1: job is, if it's an extroverts job, a lot of 357 00:16:10,081 --> 00:16:13,721 Speaker 1: those people can actually be quite introverted in real life. 358 00:16:13,801 --> 00:16:16,481 Speaker 1: So when you're in a public situation at an event 359 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:19,241 Speaker 1: or something where there's lots of people, often those people 360 00:16:19,361 --> 00:16:23,081 Speaker 1: are a bit withdrawn because they've gone that social anxiety. Yeah, 361 00:16:23,121 --> 00:16:26,121 Speaker 1: that's why I almost hesitated answering your question because I 362 00:16:26,161 --> 00:16:28,561 Speaker 1: don't want to say that they were not friendly, because 363 00:16:28,641 --> 00:16:31,601 Speaker 1: I understand that some people are not great in group environments, 364 00:16:31,681 --> 00:16:33,961 Speaker 1: or they've got social anxiety, or you know, maybe they 365 00:16:33,961 --> 00:16:34,761 Speaker 1: think people don't. 366 00:16:34,681 --> 00:16:37,201 Speaker 2: Like them and they're too scared to talk. So who 367 00:16:37,241 --> 00:16:39,801 Speaker 2: knows why. But yeah, I can't say there's been a 368 00:16:39,841 --> 00:16:43,561 Speaker 2: really bad experience with anyone. I'm sure you wanted a story, 369 00:16:43,601 --> 00:16:47,161 Speaker 2: but I wanted the tea and I wouldn't throw any 370 00:16:47,201 --> 00:16:48,601 Speaker 2: under under the bus anyway. 371 00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:53,681 Speaker 1: What's the most hurtful comment someone's written on social media recently? 372 00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:57,521 Speaker 2: There's been a couple. I suppose someone called me greedy. 373 00:16:57,601 --> 00:16:59,081 Speaker 2: Oh wow, which is really interesting. 374 00:16:59,281 --> 00:17:01,881 Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about you when I first 375 00:17:01,921 --> 00:17:05,761 Speaker 1: met you, and I think there are assumptions about you know, 376 00:17:05,801 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: the fact that you have a large following, the fact 377 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: that you have had successful businesses and maybe make some 378 00:17:11,201 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: good money and that kind of thing. I think there's 379 00:17:13,481 --> 00:17:17,681 Speaker 1: assumptions that you are a certain way. I don't think 380 00:17:17,721 --> 00:17:23,881 Speaker 1: I've met many people that are really wanting to support 381 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: other people and want the best for them, especially women. 382 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 383 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of generosity and being loyalty of friends. 384 00:17:34,681 --> 00:17:36,721 Speaker 1: And that's an impressive thing about you. 385 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,281 Speaker 2: Thank you all my friends, like I want nothing more 386 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: than for them to succeed, be happy, but also to 387 00:17:42,761 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: be financially free as well. I grew up with not 388 00:17:45,521 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: a lot of money. We were homeless at one point. 389 00:17:47,481 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: I was out of home when I was sixteen. The 390 00:17:49,801 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: stress of money and how you're going to pay your 391 00:17:51,761 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: bills is a stress like no other. So if there's 392 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: any way, and I've done this so many of my friends, 393 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,721 Speaker 2: any way that I can help them by growing their 394 00:17:59,721 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: following or investing into their businesses, or hosting for them consistently, 395 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: whatever I can do to help support them, I have 396 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: and will always do. My mom used to say to 397 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:09,241 Speaker 2: me when I was little, like what do you want 398 00:18:09,241 --> 00:18:10,241 Speaker 2: to be when you grow up, I would say, I 399 00:18:10,241 --> 00:18:12,121 Speaker 2: want to help people, whether it's health and fitness, whether 400 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,921 Speaker 2: it's with money, whether it's with like resources, or whether 401 00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: it's like just chatting on here. I just love helping. 402 00:18:17,201 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: I think contribution is just such a high value of mine. Yeah, 403 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,041 Speaker 2: it really lights me up. 404 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,521 Speaker 1: When we chatted about your new co host for the podcast. 405 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Obviously we sell sponsorship and advertising into the podcast, which 406 00:18:29,201 --> 00:18:32,761 Speaker 1: mostly pays for production, but we do do, like just 407 00:18:32,801 --> 00:18:36,161 Speaker 1: to give people the Noldnes the year. Behind the scenes, 408 00:18:36,561 --> 00:18:40,001 Speaker 1: we do do a revenue split, which obviously you share 409 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: with your co host. We suggested to you as a 410 00:18:43,201 --> 00:18:46,721 Speaker 1: podcast company that you should take a higher split because 411 00:18:46,761 --> 00:18:49,481 Speaker 1: you've built the audience. So you've built the podcast over 412 00:18:49,481 --> 00:18:53,401 Speaker 1: the last two years. You've built the audience, and somebody 413 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,801 Speaker 1: else is coming in with it already made, and you 414 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: turn around to me and said, I don't want to 415 00:18:58,521 --> 00:19:00,121 Speaker 1: do that. It needs to be fifty to fifty. We're 416 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: both in it together. 417 00:19:01,201 --> 00:19:01,601 Speaker 2: Yeah. 418 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really interesting for people to know, 419 00:19:04,681 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think that's something that you would tell anyone. 420 00:19:07,041 --> 00:19:07,241 Speaker 2: No. 421 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,321 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just goes to show that's the kind. 422 00:19:10,201 --> 00:19:12,801 Speaker 2: Of think you. I hate that comment. Around greedy too 423 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: when it comes to money, because I feel like people 424 00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: look at people that have more than the normal, like 425 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: have a lot of money, and they're looked at as 426 00:19:19,961 --> 00:19:23,081 Speaker 2: if they're greedy. But I think money just amplifies everything, 427 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: including generosity. The more money I have, the more I give. Yeah, 428 00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: the more bigger audience I have, the more people I 429 00:19:29,961 --> 00:19:32,441 Speaker 2: can help, the more money I have, the more cool 430 00:19:32,441 --> 00:19:34,001 Speaker 2: things I can do for the people that I love. 431 00:19:34,441 --> 00:19:37,761 Speaker 2: It just amplifies everything. So I don't think wealthy people 432 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: are greedy. I'm sure there's some, but maybe they've been 433 00:19:40,321 --> 00:19:41,801 Speaker 2: hurt and burned in the past as well. There's probably 434 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,321 Speaker 2: a story behind why they're like that. But for me, yeah, 435 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:47,161 Speaker 2: the more money I have, the more I can help 436 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,121 Speaker 2: people and do cool stuff for them and with them. 437 00:19:49,281 --> 00:19:50,761 Speaker 2: To the point where my Mum and Steve are like, 438 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: you do not have to pay for your friends to 439 00:19:52,201 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: do that, Like, why are you doing that? You know 440 00:19:54,241 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: they own their own money. I'm like, because I just 441 00:19:55,721 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: have always said if I've got money, I will use 442 00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: it to help people. 443 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and do you think that's also from coming 444 00:20:02,041 --> 00:20:04,801 Speaker 1: from not having as much as a child? 445 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: Hundred percent? 446 00:20:05,801 --> 00:20:07,401 Speaker 1: Now, it's all a bonus. 447 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Definitely. It is all a bonus. And 448 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:11,681 Speaker 2: I don't have an attachment to money anymore. Like, yes, 449 00:20:11,721 --> 00:20:13,921 Speaker 2: I have my safety net that I like to keep 450 00:20:13,961 --> 00:20:15,721 Speaker 2: in the banked, Like no, I can pay my bills 451 00:20:15,721 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: and everything, but everything else is a bonus. And I 452 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,681 Speaker 2: just think money's energy. It comes and goes. I don't 453 00:20:21,681 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: think there's any point in holding on to large amounts 454 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: of money to be eighty in my death, beend and 455 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,281 Speaker 2: be like oh yeah, ye, save that money. I'd rather 456 00:20:28,321 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: be able to help my friends and help people that 457 00:20:30,801 --> 00:20:33,481 Speaker 2: need it, and build memories and go on holidays and 458 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,041 Speaker 2: create cool stuff that's living to me. 459 00:20:36,801 --> 00:20:38,801 Speaker 1: What is your favorite part of yourself? 460 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: Probably my generosity speaking about that, probably my generosity and 461 00:20:44,001 --> 00:20:47,081 Speaker 2: my ability to listen. I feel like I'm a really 462 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: good communicator and I can really hold space for anyone 463 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,161 Speaker 2: and everyone. Yeah. I feel like I draw people in 464 00:20:52,441 --> 00:20:54,561 Speaker 2: that need to shoulder to cry on. And I love 465 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,241 Speaker 2: that because I have a lot of space and a 466 00:20:56,241 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: lot of time for everyone. Yeah, yeah, I agree with 467 00:20:59,041 --> 00:21:01,761 Speaker 2: Like I'm literally still in my DMS fifteen years later 468 00:21:01,801 --> 00:21:03,761 Speaker 2: and I still voice message women on the daily with 469 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: questions with helping I love it. 470 00:21:06,441 --> 00:21:09,921 Speaker 1: What about looks wise? What's your favorite physical feature? 471 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:14,041 Speaker 2: Probably my eyes. They're like this weird green yellow color, 472 00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:16,921 Speaker 2: and Taj has exactly the same, Like if you put 473 00:21:16,921 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: our eyes next to each other, I call them snake eyes. 474 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: They're like green with this bright yellow ring and they 475 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: just think they're really rare and really cool and different. 476 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,761 Speaker 1: I've got one more question for you. Do you poo 477 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: with the door open? 478 00:21:28,001 --> 00:21:31,561 Speaker 2: Yes? I do. Steve and I had been together fifteen years. 479 00:21:31,561 --> 00:21:34,201 Speaker 2: There's no hiding nothing, and then like even oh my gosh, 480 00:21:34,281 --> 00:21:37,401 Speaker 2: too much information. But I know this audience is mainly females, 481 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,321 Speaker 2: including you, So when you've got a todd lay, you 482 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,681 Speaker 2: don't go the toilet by yourself. They're there all the time. 483 00:21:42,721 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: And the other day I was changing my tampon. She looks, 484 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,321 Speaker 2: she goes ew, mummy, that's yaky. I was like, how'd 485 00:21:50,321 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: you go? Then stop looking, and now she sees like 486 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: a tampon laying around. She will literally like, oh no, 487 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: put her legs upon and be like mummy. Look. I 488 00:21:58,241 --> 00:22:00,321 Speaker 2: was like, no, you don't need that now, darling. But 489 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: she like washes everything I do. Yet not yet. We 490 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,841 Speaker 2: don't hide anything from each other. 491 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: Very comfortable when you're a mom, it's a luxury to 492 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,601 Speaker 1: go to the toilet on your own. 493 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,321 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, isn't it yup and going to the 494 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: toil in front of your partner. I've heard people say 495 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,201 Speaker 2: that it can ruin your sex life but doesn't affect ours, 496 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: So real good what about you? Do you? 497 00:22:18,961 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: This is not about me? 498 00:22:21,321 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would have known now? Yeah? I do 499 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: door open or closed open? Yeah? 500 00:22:25,241 --> 00:22:27,241 Speaker 1: I think I'm over closed up bathroom door. 501 00:22:27,441 --> 00:22:31,081 Speaker 2: I can't see Jay closing the door. Nah, he's such 502 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,681 Speaker 2: a cruiser. Whatever. Nah, it's so funny. That wasn't too bad. 503 00:22:38,001 --> 00:22:40,481 Speaker 1: Shocked a few of them. I was like, she's not 504 00:22:40,521 --> 00:22:41,521 Speaker 1: gonna want to answer that. 505 00:22:41,801 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bankruptcy one makes me laugh, Like, I'd love 506 00:22:44,441 --> 00:22:46,801 Speaker 2: to see where you've even seen that online? And then 507 00:22:47,041 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: the hardest comment on social media. I find comments about 508 00:22:49,681 --> 00:22:51,841 Speaker 2: my kids really hard because I just feel like it's 509 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,881 Speaker 2: so unfair. He's nine and she's two, and you're making 510 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: comments about what they look like. Yep, it's like come on. 511 00:22:57,921 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: It's also that whole conversation around being what's that keyboard warrior? 512 00:23:02,561 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Like being behind because you would never say that to 513 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: one in real life. You would never see someone in 514 00:23:07,521 --> 00:23:09,241 Speaker 1: real life and go your kids ugly. 515 00:23:09,561 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: No, oh my goodness, you would never. No, that's really tough. 516 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,761 Speaker 2: But I don't get that very often. I'm sure it's 517 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:18,881 Speaker 2: in gossip pages, which I don't ever go into. But yeah, 518 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,561 Speaker 2: I think anything to do with kids is really hard. 519 00:23:20,721 --> 00:23:23,321 Speaker 2: If people pay out of my looks, it honestly does 520 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,721 Speaker 2: not bother me one bit. It's like straight over my head. Yeah, 521 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,161 Speaker 2: like that is the least my worries, Like I don't 522 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,281 Speaker 2: care about that stuff about my family. Or when you're 523 00:23:31,321 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: going through something hard like this friendship breakdown, it's like 524 00:23:33,721 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: you're already struggling, you're already hurting. To have other people's 525 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,881 Speaker 2: noise and opinions, it just like adds another layer. Yeah, yeah, but. 526 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,361 Speaker 1: Thank you for answering them. 527 00:23:43,561 --> 00:23:45,961 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I can't wait to do this with our 528 00:23:46,001 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: next co host. Yeah, she's very open behind closed doors, 529 00:23:50,281 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: but she hasn't been like speaking in front of an 530 00:23:52,921 --> 00:23:55,321 Speaker 2: audience like this, sharing all of her deepest, darker secrets. 531 00:23:55,761 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: She's wanting to do that more. Obviously you wouldn't come 532 00:23:57,961 --> 00:24:00,321 Speaker 2: onto a podcast if you weren't. But I think she'll 533 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: be like really taken back by some of the questions. 534 00:24:02,521 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Well, I'll dig deep. Yeah, I'll do some research and 535 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: we'll aspare the hard hitting questions in twenty twenty five. 536 00:24:09,041 --> 00:24:11,521 Speaker 2: All right, well, thanks for joining us, Thank you, see 537 00:24:11,521 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: you next time. Bye bye