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Speaker 2: On August five, twenty twenty three, police search the home

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Speaker 2: but on one particular mobile phone they found Facebook messages

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Speaker 1: So Don said they can't adjudicate if they don't know

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Speaker 1: swear to fooking God.

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Speaker 2: These messages, along with images, screenshots, and other evidence taken

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Speaker 2: from different devices, were shown to the jury. Here in

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Speaker 2: my well, I'm Brooke Greebert Craig, and this is the

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Speaker 2: Mushroom Cook. And once again with my colleague, court reporter

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Speaker 2: Laura passella Hey Brook, it was a busy day in court,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was definitely a jam pack day.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Digital forensic Officer Shaman fox Henry. We

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Speaker 2: spoke about him yesterday. He was in court again today

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Speaker 3: That's right. Our listeners may remember that yesterday he was

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about one of the mobile phones first. We

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. This was a Samsung phone analyzed by

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Speaker 2: Now, these messages were sent from an account called Aaron

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Speaker 3: Yes, you've got that right. In the prosecution opening, the

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Speaker 2: Here are some of those messages.

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Speaker 1: I said to him about fifty times yesterday that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, the fact that Simon refused to talk

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Speaker 3: So it's really important to note that these texts were

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Speaker 3: We've heard evidence as well from Professor Andrew Burston who

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Speaker 2: And there was another phone that mister fox Henry spoke

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Speaker 2: Now let's move on. The jury heard more about the

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Speaker 3: The jury heard about this investigation through one of the

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Speaker 2: So it was really up to him to attend those premises,

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Speaker 3: So this really helped guide Troy's investigation. He made sure

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Speaker 3: This was because of the similarities some of these repackaged

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Speaker 2: Okay, Laura, now we're going to move on to a

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Speaker 2: This evidence came through witness Mariam Cesspon, who was a

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Speaker 3: This was two days after the lunch and to remind

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Speaker 2: And something was mentioned about witch's hats, wasn't it Yes?

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Speaker 2: And on that note, hopefully we don't have to talk

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Speaker 2: about Aaron's bower movements ever.

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Speaker 3: Again yes, I hope so too. But just to flag

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Speaker 3: it is mister Fox Henry who is set again to

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Speaker 3: take the stand tomorrow for his third day of evidence.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow, but in the meantime go to

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Speaker 2: the mushroomcook dot com dot au for more