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Speaker 1: On scorn Loves Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, confronting scenes of violence in Melbourne as Good

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Speaker 3: Samaritans take action. The panel will be here shortly to

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Speaker 3: cover the day's top headlines. President Donald Trump Reveal's wife

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Speaker 3: Milania's key role in America's response to the Russian Ukraine conflict.

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Speaker 3: Kosha Gator will join me to cover that and much more.

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Speaker 4: And later in the hour, the brilliant Josh Hammer on

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Speaker 4: the Jeffrey Epstein saga and why the Trump administration is

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Speaker 4: going after the former heads of the CIA and FBI,

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Speaker 4: and we never neglect Lefty's losing it.

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Speaker 3: Tonight we feature this charming lass.

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Speaker 5: I just thought of a way to combine my Maggie

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Speaker 5: heating and my work in the er.

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Speaker 3: But first, Australia's unions are demanding the Albanezy government introduce

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Speaker 3: a Julia Gillard style carbon tax. The ACTU claims that

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Speaker 3: the Gillard Government's policy was actually hugely successful. The ACTU

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Speaker 3: is also pushing for the Productivity Commission to investigate whether

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Speaker 3: there are any fossil fuel subsidies that can be eliminated.

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Speaker 3: It comes as the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry

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Speaker 3: warns the Labor Government that it's two thousand and thirty

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Speaker 3: five emissions reduction target will undermine productivity, competitiveness and viability.

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Speaker 3: The group's chief executive, Andrew mckeller told The Australian newspaper

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Speaker 3: that a twenty thirty five target of between sixty five

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Speaker 3: to seventy five percent would exceedingly be exceedingly challenging for

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Speaker 3: the Australian economy. We would see the risk with a

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Speaker 3: target that was in that range. It would probably entail

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Speaker 3: significant adjustment costs across the economy. Let's bring in the

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Speaker 3: panel now, News Corps' RIGHTO Patrick Carline and former Labor

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Speaker 3: Minister Michael Danby. Michael, I'll start with you. Was the

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Speaker 3: carbon tax a great success? Will the alban Easy government

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Speaker 3: seek to reintroduce something like that, perhaps with a new name.

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Speaker 1: It was not a political success, it was not an

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Speaker 1: economic success. And I thought unions were in favor of

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Speaker 1: poor people on lower wages, et cetera. Carbon prices and

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Speaker 1: the thing they should be thinking about. They should be

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Speaker 1: thinking about the cost of electricity. We're a country which

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Speaker 1: exports basically minerals. We're one big mine. We have almost

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Speaker 1: no manufacturing industry left. These people just seem to be

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Speaker 1: living in what the Germans call a cloud cuckoo land.

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Speaker 1: If we put any more prices on our exports, were

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Speaker 1: already faced the danger of iron ore exports to try

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Speaker 1: and collapsing. It's a flick of a finger by the Chinese,

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Speaker 1: or if there's a blockade of Taiwan, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter to the act you apparently, no, it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to And Michael makes an excellent point Patrick,

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Speaker 3: we are blessed with natural resources in this country. We've

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Speaker 3: got iron ore, we've got plenty of gas reserves, coal,

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Speaker 3: and yet we are not taking advantage of that. The

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Speaker 3: resources are being exported, and our energy costs are some

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Speaker 3: of the highest in the world.

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Speaker 2: Look our odds with reality. If you think about it,

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Speaker 2: you look at India, you look at China, you look

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Speaker 2: at the US. They're not talking about targets. They're not

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Speaker 2: fixated with targets. They're dealing with real realities. And as basically,

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Speaker 2: we have these targets that have no place in terms

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Speaker 2: of power bills, in terms of what people are paying.

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Speaker 3: And reliability too. I mean that's what I look at

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Speaker 3: these targets. Yes, the transition costs are going to be enormous,

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Speaker 3: but where is the reliability going to come from when

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Speaker 3: we don't have nuclear power, when we don't have base

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Speaker 3: load power. Sure, it's the whole thing is usually mad.

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Speaker 3: I'm convinced we we'll look back in twenty years and

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Speaker 3: wonder what we were all thinking. Now, let's go to

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Speaker 3: the dramatic scenes in the Melbourne suburb of Mooney Ponds

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Speaker 3: after bystanders performed a citizens arrest in two separate incidents

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Speaker 3: yesterday afternoon. The first incident occurred near Mooney Pon's Central

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Speaker 3: shopping Center, where a forty four year old essident man

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Speaker 3: from Fitzroy who shouted aluakba as bystanders wrestled him to

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Speaker 3: the ground. According to the police, there is nothing to

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Speaker 3: indicate that the attack was religiously or politically motivated, and

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Speaker 3: there was a separate incident also in Mouney Pons. A

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Speaker 3: knife wielding man was knocked to the ground outside a

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Speaker 3: with a chair before others joined him to help remove

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Speaker 3: the knife. Patrick, Welcome to Melbourne. It's going swell down

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Speaker 3: here absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Look but you have fire bombings of synagogues one day,

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Speaker 2: you have kids running through shopping centers with machetes the next,

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Speaker 2: and it's sort of become normalized, hasn't it. I think

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Speaker 2: these incidences were an hour apart in many ponds, and

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Speaker 2: it's sort of You're hearing these stories every day of

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Speaker 2: angry men, usually with knives, attacking or menacing innocent bystanders,

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Speaker 2: and there's something wrong with the system. Obviously, there's a

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Speaker 2: breakdown on whether the courts are too soft. The government

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Speaker 2: has been too soft for too long on these aggravated burglaries.

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Speaker 2: Melbourne doesn't feel safe. It's a real problem. People don't

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Speaker 2: feel safe in Melbourne anymore, and these incidences just make

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Speaker 2: it worse. They're happening every day.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's not just a breakdown of the justice system.

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Speaker 3: It seems to be sosietial breakdown as well. Michael law

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Speaker 3: Order I think is going to be a huge issue

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Speaker 3: in the next state election and it could perhaps decide

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Speaker 3: the election if the Libs, I don't know when, so

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Speaker 3: relentlessly hopeless in every other area.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope that there's a viable state opposition that stops

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Speaker 1: debating the price of prosuto. Notice the play on words.

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Speaker 1: But the serious thing is I don't get the Victoria Police.

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Speaker 1: I think we haven't noticed Rita that they've gone woke.

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Speaker 1: How could they not declare some of these incidents terrorist incidents,

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Speaker 1: some of them religiously motivated. If a bloke, even if

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Speaker 1: he had a personal beef with someone else, stabs him

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Speaker 1: and then yells out a laho akbar, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: Commissioner of Police, that is a religiously motivated crime, and

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Speaker 1: people in Victoria's shouldn't put up with it. Neither should

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Speaker 1: we put up with mass demonstrations of black clad met

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Speaker 1: in intimidating Catholics at Saint Patrick's Cathedral by having a disgraceful, intimidy,

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Speaker 1: intimidatory procession outside and pats. I hope the new laws

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Speaker 1: preventing people assimilarly outside religious places are applied to that

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Speaker 1: procession in future years.

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Speaker 3: Well, Michael, that was very interesting, wasn't it. It got

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Speaker 3: scandal media coverage. Sky News covered it. But I would

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Speaker 3: say I think I'm stating the obvious here. If we

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Speaker 3: had a bunch of religious zealots of any other denomination

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Speaker 3: gathering outside a mosque, for example, and even if they

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Speaker 3: would be seen as aggressive, it would be seen as

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Speaker 3: unacceptable in modern Australia. But when the when.

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Speaker 4: It's targeted at the Christian faith, well then we ignore it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's micro when there's two people who

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Speaker 1: allaho Akbar and then there was nearly ten thousand people

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Speaker 1: all clad in black around Saint Patrick's Cathedral. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a Christian, I'm not a Catholic, but I found it

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Speaker 1: so offensive to tolerant Melbourne that used to exists, to

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Speaker 1: see that kind of intimidation and occupying of other people's faces.

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Speaker 1: The procession and demonstration law should mean that this can't

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Speaker 1: of Police to publicly announce it won't be allowed to

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Speaker 3: It's been interesting to know if we had a permit

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Speaker 3: system exactly how that would have gone, whether they would

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Speaker 3: have declared that part of their protest or march or

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Speaker 3: religious observance and whether it would have been as seen

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Speaker 3: as acceptable. Now let's move on to a superb piece.

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Speaker 3: Nick Kator wrote in The Australian calling for suitability and

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Speaker 3: loyalty to be restored to the immigration debate after the

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Speaker 3: government took sixteen months to decide that Palestinian immigrant Maha

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Speaker 3: al Masri did not meet the character tests for an

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Speaker 3: Australian visa. Nikata wrote, whatever threat Almasi may or may

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Speaker 3: not pose, this drawn out debacle serves no one, least

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Speaker 3: of all the taxpayer who is left funding ation mozzle

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Speaker 3: born of confused compassion and contempt for due process. The

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Speaker 3: right to permanent residency is an obligation to respect the

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Speaker 3: Western values that underpin Australia's extraordinary success. It requires acknowledgment

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Speaker 3: that you are first and foremost an Australian or desired

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Speaker 3: to become one. Patrick, We've seen assimilation almost become a

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Speaker 3: dirty word. We're told that all cultures are equal, but

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Speaker 3: I would put it to you that's simply a falsehood.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely good on Nick for writing this because it is

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Speaker 2: a Nogo zone and it has been for so long,

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Speaker 2: but it needs to be talked about. Some of these

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Speaker 2: people because of the immigration settings are basically importing hate,

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Speaker 2: bringing hate into the country. They don't want to be

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Speaker 2: Australian citizens with Australian values. And as Nick wrote, a

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Speaker 2: passport basically commands a loyalty. If you want an Australian passport,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be loyal to Western values. And that's

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Speaker 2: not happening. And we're seeing it again and again. And

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Speaker 2: I think that this is a discussion that needs to

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Speaker 2: be had. It needs to be candid, and it needs

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Speaker 2: to be honest, because it hasn't been for so long.

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Speaker 3: No, it hasn't been honest for a long time, Michael.

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Speaker 3: And the problem is also home grown. We've got so

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Speaker 3: many people who are born and bred here who are

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Speaker 3: anti Western values, that are ashamed of Australia, shamed of

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Speaker 3: Australia's history. And I guess it's hard to have an

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Speaker 3: obligation on new Australians to be pro Australian values when

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Speaker 3: so many within this country don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a big pushback when councils try

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Speaker 1: and abolish Australia Day. So you see that there is

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Speaker 1: still a lot of you know, mild, tolerant, good natured

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Speaker 1: Australian patterism still around. But the three thousand guards of

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of tourists being allowed to come from

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Speaker 1: a war zone. The socialist left Julian Hill gave them

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Speaker 1: tourists visas and once the year they can all apply

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Speaker 1: for bridging visas and then basically you can't get them out.

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Speaker 1: They can eventually after ten years become a permanent Australian citizens.

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Speaker 1: It's a danger to Australia if people don't have the

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Speaker 1: same law apply to them. They are applied to all people.

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Speaker 1: And when we accepted the twelve thousand Christians from Syria

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Speaker 1: who are in danger from ISIS, AZEO checked all of

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Speaker 1: their files one by one. They went to Lebanon, they

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Speaker 1: went to Iraq. They went through these people very carefully

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Speaker 1: and humanitarian purposes serve, but with safety to Australians who

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Speaker 1: live there, which should be the watchword of a The

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Speaker 1: AFP and even the worksters in the Victorian and New

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the Labor government knew precisely what it

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Speaker 3: was doing in knew those tourism visas were going to

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Speaker 3: lead to bridging visas and permanent residency for those who

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Speaker 3: wanted it was an ideological any reason, absolutely, and I

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Speaker 3: guess said it spoke to their segments of their base. Now,

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Speaker 3: before you go, I want to ask you about the

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Speaker 3: Victorian labor government being hauled before the Civil and Administrative

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Speaker 3: Tribunal by a Jewish community leader who says they have

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Speaker 3: failed to crack down on anti Semitism. Menicem Walkmeyer says

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Speaker 3: that the government has enabled breaches of the state's racial

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Speaker 3: vilification laws and he's seeking a public apology from Premier

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Speaker 3: just Into Alan for filing the Jewish community in Victoria. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: I can't say I'm a massive fan of these laws.

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Speaker 3: I don't like hate speech laws, but there's no denying

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Speaker 3: the left does love them, and yet when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the Jewish.

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Speaker 4: Community, they have failed to uphold them. In fact, in

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Speaker 4: many ways they haven't just tolerated it, they have promoted

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Speaker 4: this sort of hatred.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think part of the problem is the fact

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Speaker 2: that it's been such an insipid response from Victoria and

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Speaker 2: federally as well. You compare that to Chris Min's and

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Speaker 2: New South Wales. He came out very early on. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to tolerate hatred. I'm going to stamp down

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Speaker 2: on this. And the problem is in Victoria, that insipidness

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Speaker 2: is actually in Bolden the extremism that has actually made

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Michael, I'm really interested in your take on this.

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Speaker 3: Michael Danby Patrick Carly and thank you both for your time.

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Speaker 3: geta Kosher. Like so many who identify as Centrist, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, forget about his words, look at his actions, Look

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Speaker 9: And Vance is a very good communicator. He's different.

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Speaker 9: But in many ways Vans.

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Speaker 3: And that whole video, and it did go viral. Every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the threat to democracy, like everything is a

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Speaker 8: This is sort of a distraction for him, I think

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Speaker 9: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: of its readers. It's asking, is it time to stop

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Speaker 3: snubbing your right wing family? I mean, really, what a

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Speaker 3: broken publication with even more broken readership, it seems. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, Coach. I think I'd rather be snubbed by

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Speaker 3: these people. We've got enough crazy in our lives and

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Speaker 3: life is too short. I think, what a bizarre thing

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Speaker 3: to be saying. But I think it reflects their readership

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Speaker 3: because so many of them can't cope with friends, family, work,

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Speaker 3: colleagues who may think differently from them.

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Speaker 8: That's so true and such a childish tactic to snub

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Speaker 8: somebody not like you know, I'm going to influence you,

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Speaker 8: or maybe let's disagree to disagree, but I'm going to

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Speaker 8: snub you. And I looked into the author, David Lett.

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Speaker 8: He's one of the former senior speech writers for Obama.

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Speaker 8: Of course, so I was rather surprised when I saw

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Speaker 8: the level of doubt or life there of and as analysis,

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Speaker 8: and the funny thing too is so the tactic snobbing

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Speaker 8: is childish. But also the issue that he really focused

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Speaker 8: in on were the COVID vaccine mandates, which is not

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Speaker 8: the hill to die on because that has totally changed.

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Speaker 8: It's not even left right thing. So many people view

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Speaker 8: that very very skeptically after everything that we were put through,

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Speaker 8: and he was basically going after his sister's younger brother

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Speaker 8: who decided not to take the vaccine, and he used

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Speaker 8: that as the central motif in his article about why

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Speaker 8: you should snob your right wing family member who maybe

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Speaker 8: didn't want to take the vacs.

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Speaker 3: I know, it is such a bizarre heel to die on.

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Speaker 3: I still think it is a political issue. I think

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Speaker 3: the heart left are still clinging onto those mandates as

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do, even with everything we've learned

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Speaker 3: since then. But wow, yeah, you forget about that, You

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Speaker 3: forget about family members not being invited to Christmas dinners

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Speaker 3: because of the COVID vaccine mandates. Incredible time, Koshergata, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for your time.

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Speaker 9: Pleasure still to.

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Speaker 3: Come Lefties Losing It, plus the latest on thee Epstein

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Speaker 3: Sagon why the Trump administration is going after the former

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Speaker 3: heads of the CIA and FBI. Josh Hammer will be

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Speaker 3: here with the details. Welcome back. It's time for lefty's

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Speaker 3: losing it. Let's see what happened when a lefty losing

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Speaker 3: it decided to confront borders. Tom Homan mistake, big mistake.

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Speaker 3: Sit back and enjoy this. You may need a cigarette afterwards.

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Speaker 10: Let's release them in the community. Wait, wait, three or

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Speaker 10: five years, Barney.

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Speaker 1: Are you an MS thirteen member?

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Speaker 10: Hey, hey, that's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: I got a question.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, I got a question for you. Why

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Speaker 10: don't you come up here and hand me that picture?

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 11: They got morens like this all the country.

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Speaker 10: This guy, this guy wouldn't North like the circus nation.

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Speaker 11: This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.

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Speaker 11: Do you ever got the ball? Pretty a ball chorger.

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Speaker 11: This guy lives in his mother's basement. The only thing

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Speaker 11: that surprises me. You don't have purple hair and a

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Speaker 11: nose ring. Get out of here, you loser.

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Speaker 9: And very and you're.

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Speaker 10: Such a badass being me off stage in thirteen minutes

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Speaker 10: and fifty seconds. I guarantee you he sits down the peak. Guarantee.

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Speaker 3: Ah superb. I just love him, I really do.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: That is demolish that joker. Perhaps Tom Hoeman could school

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Speaker 3: this next clown who has put together a tutorial of

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Speaker 3: sorts advising people to waste immigration and custom Enforcements time

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Speaker 3: with prank calls and fake tip offs. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: that's a crime.

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Speaker 12: So ICE is a tip line that's available on their website.

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Speaker 12: It's listed right there and you can call it twenty

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Speaker 12: four to seven to report suspicious activity related to illegal immigration.

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Speaker 12: If you manage to get an ICE officer on the phone,

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Speaker 12: you can always just make up a one or two

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Speaker 12: minute scenario of something that never happened that they can

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Speaker 12: look into. However, if you get the voicemail, which is

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Speaker 12: much more common, I recommend leaving a wet, juicy fart

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Speaker 12: sound effect. They also have a hotline that you can text,

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Speaker 12: and I figured out that you can send images to

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Speaker 12: the number.

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Speaker 3: They always have those crazy eyes, don't they, And talking

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Speaker 3: about crazy eyes, check out this lady.

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Speaker 5: I just thought of a way to combine my Maggie

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Speaker 5: heating and my work in.

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Speaker 13: The er MAGA supporters are like people who hold onto

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Speaker 13: fireworks too long. You love it until it hurts you,

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Speaker 13: kind of like.

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Speaker 5: You know, you love it until you can't retire until

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Speaker 5: the age of seventies. So see it in the er, folks,

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Speaker 5: when your fingers get blown off, I have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Gross, just gross. Now get ready for a Jasmine Crockett extravaganza.

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Speaker 3: We featured her before. She says a lot of dumb things,

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Speaker 3: and then there's a whole accent switch up. She can

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Speaker 3: go from prep school to ghetto like this. Kamala has

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Speaker 3: nothing on her. But despite her habit of saying some really,

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Speaker 3: really truly stupid stuff, there is talk of her being

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Speaker 3: the new bright star amongst the Democrats. Perhaps she could

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Speaker 3: lead the Democratic Party into being electable again. Let's have

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Speaker 3: a look at her here, flat out lying saying that

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Speaker 3: the left are not violent at all and the men

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Speaker 3: who wanted to assassinate Donald Trump are actually his supporters.

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Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense if you're a moron.

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Speaker 14: Violence doesn't come from Democrats. Just to be clear, I mean,

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Speaker 14: obviously anyone can be a criminal, but it is MAGA.

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Speaker 14: It's specifically magafaction. Like I don't think traditional Republicans are

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Speaker 14: getting engaged in all of this. But like even when

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Speaker 14: we look at and they don't talk about the assassination

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Speaker 14: attempts anymore that took place with Donald Trump. But these

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Speaker 14: these were Trump supporters.

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Speaker 3: Right yep. Lies lies, lies, and of course that's the

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Speaker 3: sort of lying that the lunatics at MSNBC just love.

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Speaker 3: Watch this embarrassing exchange between an MSNBC host and a

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Speaker 3: teary Jasmine.

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Speaker 15: That was you and I three years ago. That was

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Speaker 15: your first time on the Katie Fang Show. This is

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Speaker 15: the second to the last episode of the show. Congress Woman,

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Speaker 15: I wanted to thank you for always getting up and

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Speaker 15: early and delivering it. But I also want to say

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Speaker 15: thank you for your continuing support for democracy. It's definitely

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Speaker 15: something that you have made your brand, and it's the

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Speaker 15: integrity that you're bringing and I'm grateful for you always. Well, Missie, Oh,

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Speaker 15: you can't have me crying at the beginning of the show, Jasmine,

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Speaker 15: Congressman Jasmine Crockett, you haven't seen the last of me.

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Speaker 15: Thank you for being here and getting us started today.

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Speaker 15: I always appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, and here Jasmine Crockett has the nerve the

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Speaker 3: HOODSPA to call other people dumb. Apparently, if you don't

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Speaker 3: vote for the radical Democrats while you're just uneducated, you

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Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 16: That's most people voted the wrong way because they were uneducated.

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Speaker 16: And that's not to call them dumb, but literally, life

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Speaker 16: sometimes is life and you're trying to keep a roof

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Speaker 16: over your head, keep food on the table, trying to

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Speaker 16: make sure that your kids have what they need, and

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Speaker 16: so you're not tuned in to the endless news cycle

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Speaker 16: or you don't know what the truth is.

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Speaker 3: Y'all need to connect the dots and talking about HOOTZPA.

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Speaker 3: Here is Jasmine Crockett claiming that Joe Biden was cognitively sound,

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with him.

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Speaker 4: It's President Donald Trump's mental acuity that concerns her.

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Speaker 16: Do you have concerns about the President's health and his

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Speaker 16: mental acuity?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 1: None, none, No, work.

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Speaker 3: I had none.

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Speaker 14: Now, granted I didn't see Joe Biden every single day,

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Speaker 14: but I did have an opportunity to interact.

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Speaker 1: With the president.

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Speaker 3: I never had a concern.

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Speaker 14: If there's anyone that I am concerned about their mental acuity,

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Speaker 14: it is the current occupant.

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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere Coming up next, why Donald Trump is

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Speaker 3: being urged to sue AOC into bankruptcy. Josh Hammer will

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Speaker 3: have the details. Welcome back. Joining me now is Newsweek's

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Speaker 3: senior editor at Large and Article three Projects Senior Council

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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer. Josh will get to the Jeffrey Epstein fallout shortly,

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Speaker 3: but let's start with Jasmine Crockett. The right think she

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Speaker 3: is a gift, but many on the left see her

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Speaker 3: as the future of the Democratic Party. Could this Texan

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Speaker 3: be a unifying force that makes the Democrats electable again?

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Speaker 17: Reader, The only thing that Jasmine Crockett could possibly unify

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Speaker 17: is large swaths of the United States to utterly despise her,

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Speaker 17: to hold her incomplete and just overwhelming contempt, and for

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Speaker 17: the Democratic Party to do itself into continue irrelevance for

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Speaker 17: the next five to ten years or so. I mean,

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Speaker 17: I mean, this is someone who is completely an utterly

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Speaker 17: unhinged who sentiments and talking points and policy positions and

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Speaker 17: proposals everything that she says on virtually every issue that

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Speaker 17: I have ever heard her open her not particularly well

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Speaker 17: in fore mouth. It is utterly at odds with the

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Speaker 17: Median American I mean, if Democrats have any interest reader,

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Speaker 17: if they have learned anything, if they have learned literally

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Speaker 17: anything from the twenty twenty four election, if they have

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Speaker 17: learned that their base is actually quite out of touch

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Speaker 17: with me American, then Jasmine Crockett does not represent the future.

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Speaker 17: She represents the ash heap of history. But the problem

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Speaker 17: is that Jasmine Crockett is a natural progression of the

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Speaker 17: post two thousand and eight, post Barack Obama Democratic Party. Reading, now,

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Speaker 17: you and I have discussed this. The demolition of Kamala

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Speaker 17: Harris in the twenty twenty four election really should be

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Speaker 17: a very sober moment in intro special for Democrats where

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Speaker 17: they recognize that the moment that this went off the

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Speaker 17: rails was actually, in hindsight two thousand and eight, the

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Speaker 17: entire Obama coalition of DEI, intersectionality, modern leftism has to

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Speaker 17: be discarded. Jasmine Crockett is not the future unless Democrats

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Speaker 17: are suicidal, which actually, frankly, they might be. And you

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Speaker 17: know what, I kind of hope they actually are.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can only hope so. But it's incredible her

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Speaker 3: rise in the last what six to twelve months, She's

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Speaker 3: really come from nowhere to be so prominent and right

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Speaker 3: up there with the likes of Bernie Sanders and AOC

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Speaker 3: other sort of far left radicals who seem to be

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Speaker 3: setting the agenda for the left of the moment. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's move on to the issue that will not go away,

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Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein saga. You're one of the conservative commentators

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Speaker 3: who is urging Republicans not to lose faith in the

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice after the decision to close the Epstein investigation.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear now from some young conservatives on this issue.

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Speaker 3: And this was recorded after President Trump threw his support

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Speaker 3: behind Attorney General PAMBONDI.

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Speaker 9: I do not agree with the president, likely not agreement.

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Speaker 9: I actually do agree with the president, unfortunately on this one.

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Speaker 9: I don't think I agree with the president. I kind

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Speaker 9: decided to with on Tell on this situation.

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Speaker 17: I do not agree with the president.

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Speaker 6: I think that Pam has brought as secretive energy to

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Speaker 6: the administration and that it is not a good look

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Speaker 6: for the president at all.

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Speaker 9: As much as I like.

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Speaker 12: The President, I do think that that is a little

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Speaker 12: bit of mistrust put into the people.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of instances where the president

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Speaker 11: should just keep his mouth closed and not give out

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Speaker 11: such opinions.

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Speaker 12: She had come out in the past and said that

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Speaker 12: they had thousands of videos they were just waiting to release,

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Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, now they're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 12: there's nothing. I don't believe that Pam Bondi is being

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Speaker 12: particularly effective in terms of her leadership and governance when

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Speaker 12: it comes to the Epstein files.

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Speaker 6: The women and children who were victims of this entire

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Speaker 6: scandal absolutely deserved the justice.

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Speaker 3: But Josh, you argue that this has been the most

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Speaker 3: conservative Department of Justice in our lifetime, and that Trump

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Speaker 3: is enjoying an incredible winning streak. But as you heard

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Speaker 3: there from those young conservatives, they disagree with the president.

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Speaker 3: They have lost faith in the AG. And doesn't this decision, Josh,

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Speaker 3: to abandon the Epstein case tell Americans that the ruling

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Speaker 3: elite remain untouchable, that even the most heinous criminals can

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Speaker 3: be protected. It just seems like justice wasn't delivered here.

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Speaker 17: Well know, those interviews were done at the Turning Point

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Speaker 17: USA Student Action summon in Tampa this past week, and

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Speaker 17: I actually spoke myself. I did a debate on something.

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Speaker 17: You were there, really, Kirky, I was there, so I

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Speaker 17: saw this myself. I interacted with not necessarily these exact people,

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Speaker 17: but with people at the conference, and the outcry is

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Speaker 17: is absolutely real. So I want to clarify what my

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Speaker 17: stance is not. My stance is not that the Trump

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Speaker 17: administration has done everything in the best possible way. They

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Speaker 17: have not crossed every tea, they have not done every eye.

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Speaker 17: In particular, it is very difficult. I would actually go

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Speaker 17: so far as say it is impossible to reconcile what

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Speaker 17: Pam Bondi said on Fox New Who's Back in February

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Speaker 17: with what she is now saying. Either the files were

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Speaker 17: on her desk or they were not. Something is clearly

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Speaker 17: amiss here, and it has been my contention that President Trump,

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Speaker 17: specifically himself, should do one of those sit down in

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Speaker 17: the Oval office at the resolute desk, look right into

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Speaker 17: the camera and just talk straight to the American people

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Speaker 17: for fifteen twenty minutes, whoever long it takes, about what

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Speaker 17: the heck happened here. So definitely I share a lot

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Speaker 17: of these concerns. Rather, my contention, Rita is the following

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Speaker 17: one that overall, again I'm a lawyer, I follow the

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Speaker 17: DOJ pretty closely. This has been a very conservative DOJ.

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Speaker 17: Overall this kerfuffle. Aside the DOJ's assisting Tom Hoeman and

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Speaker 17: Christy Noem when it comes to the largest mass deportation

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Speaker 17: operation in American history, they have won massive cases at

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Speaker 17: the United States Supreme Court, our Solicitor General John Sower

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Speaker 17: ending chemical castration, the sterilization of children. When it comes

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Speaker 17: to so called gender from care, massive massive legal wins

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Speaker 17: there the nation in injunction. A lot is coming directly

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Speaker 17: from the Trump DOJ. I think that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 17: really digging at his heels better for worse, for better

696
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Speaker 17: or for worse, the President is genuinely digging his heels

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Speaker 17: and read I have it from all my sources imaginable

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Speaker 17: that Pam Bompy is going precisely nowhere. So given the

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Speaker 17: fact that Donald Trump is mad that this is his movements,

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Speaker 17: I fully anticipate that his supporters will rally around him

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Speaker 17: and this story will be forgotten in two three weeks

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Speaker 17: from now. But I'm not saying that's been handled in

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Speaker 17: the best way possible. I want to be very clear

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Speaker 17: that it's not necessarily my contention.

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Speaker 3: Now, we learned last week that the FBI is investigating

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Speaker 3: former CIA director John Brennan and former FBI director James

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Speaker 3: Comy for possible false statements to Congress. That's just for starters,

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Speaker 3: I would suggest, And of course, incredibly the left that

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Speaker 3: weaponize the DOJ to persecute their political opponents, they're now

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Speaker 3: playing the victim. Josh Nina Jankowitzer you may remember her.

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Speaker 3: She calls herself a expert on disinformation. She was going

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Speaker 3: to be the Biden administration's disinformations are before even they

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Speaker 3: abandoned that plan for being too crazy. Well, josh Nina

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Speaker 3: has a byline at MSNBC these days, and she's arguing

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Speaker 3: that these investigations are politically motivated. She writes, political retribution

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Speaker 3: is being normalized in America. How else can we interpret

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Speaker 3: the news that the Department of Justice as placed former

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Speaker 3: FBI director James Comey INFORMACYIA director John Brennan under criminal investigation.

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Speaker 3: Josh what's your response to these claims from this self

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Speaker 3: styled disinformation expert that this is politically motivated and political

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Speaker 3: persecutions or prosecutions are being normalized.

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Speaker 17: Reader, My response is very simple, which is that the

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Speaker 17: disinformation operation, speaking of the so called disinformation Zora, that

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Speaker 17: never was the actual disinformation operation that is currently being

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Speaker 17: foisted on the American people through this dim witted idiots who,

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Speaker 17: thank goodness, never got the position that she was trying

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Speaker 17: to get. The actual disinformation operation is to try to

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Speaker 17: bamboozle and gaslight the American people into thinking that the

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Speaker 17: political retribution against the opponents was anything other than what

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Speaker 17: the Merrick Garland DOJ just did to Donald Trump and

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Speaker 17: his whole movement, his whole maga basket of deplorable's movements,

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Speaker 17: what the Democrat lawfare complex has done read over the

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Speaker 17: past few years, we are going to pay the price

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Speaker 17: in this country for years and years, perhaps even decades

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Speaker 17: to come. They have upended every rule. They have set

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Speaker 17: us back hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. The rule of

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Speaker 17: law exists in Western style democracies. It is preserved in

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Speaker 17: the US Constitution to prevent exactly the sort of malfeasance

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Speaker 17: of singling out your top political foe who in this

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Speaker 17: case happened to be a former and now we know,

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Speaker 17: future president of the United States and trying to fabricate

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Speaker 17: all sorts of ridiculous charges jurisdictions trot him out for

743
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Speaker 17: the mug shot there with Fannie Willis and Fulton County, Georgia.

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Speaker 17: We have seen no justice for these total malcontents whatsoever.

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Speaker 17: Where is the justice for the Democrat law for companies,

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Speaker 17: that is the retribution on political opponents, not this stupid

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Speaker 17: stuff about James Comy and John brandwhich, by the way,

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Speaker 17: we actually have not gotten any justice for Russia Gate

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Speaker 17: to this day at all. All we have is Kevin Kleinsmith,

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Speaker 17: who forged the Pfizer warr into on Michael Flynn and

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Speaker 17: the others back in twenty fifteen. He got a slap

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Speaker 17: on the wrist, He lost his law license for a

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Speaker 17: little bit.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 17: No one has served a single day in jail there.

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Speaker 17: So actually a lot of US Rita want to see

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Speaker 17: justice when it comes to the Russia collusion delusion, and

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Speaker 17: that's been going on for a decade now. If this

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Speaker 17: is what it's going to lead to, then I support

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Speaker 17: it entirely.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was going to be my next question, because

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Speaker 3: this just seems to be the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 3: The Russian collusion hoax which did so much damage, which

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Speaker 3: was just based on utter nothingness. It was a political

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Speaker 3: campaign that was used to spy on the Trump administration,

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Speaker 3: that was used to really undermine Americans faith in their democracy.

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Speaker 3: There are so many Americans to this day who think

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Speaker 3: Russia influenced or even bought that election. When are we

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Speaker 3: going to see some consequences for people who were complicit

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Speaker 3: in that betrayal? I mean that was I think again,

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Speaker 3: We've seen so many scandals in the last ten years.

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Speaker 3: The president being cognitively impaired would have been probably the

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Speaker 3: top one. But the Russian collusion hoax and the way

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Speaker 3: it undermined the American people's faith in democracy, that's got

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Speaker 3: to be right up there.

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Speaker 17: Oh, it's right near the top of the very worst.

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Speaker 17: By the way, John Brennan, who was involved in the

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Speaker 17: Russia gethoaks at least the Trump DOJ's alleging it, and

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Speaker 17: I certainly myself very much believe that. John Brennan, let's

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Speaker 17: not forget, also affixed his name to the infamous Hunter

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Speaker 17: Biden laptop letter from the fifty one Deep State spook.

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Speaker 17: This letter that came in essentially within hours after the

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Speaker 17: New York Posts having that article about Rudy Giuliani and

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Speaker 17: Delaware at the laptop at Hunter Biden. We all know

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Speaker 17: that story by now. By the way, Rita a very

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Speaker 17: fun forgotten detail of that fifty one deep State spook letter,

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Speaker 17: the letter that had Clapper and Brennan and all the

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Speaker 17: usual old Obama bros sign off and call it Russia disinformation.

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Speaker 17: A very fun detail is that the then Biden Harris

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Speaker 17: campaign staffer who was actually detailed to make that letter

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Speaker 17: happen within twenty four hours was a foreign policy campaign

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Speaker 17: staffer by the name of Anthony Blincoln, the man who

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Speaker 17: would become the United States Secretary of State. So the

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Speaker 17: pieces really do start to all come together here. I mean,

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Speaker 17: this is a really nefarious operation. There Again, I'm hoping

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Speaker 17: that we're going to get some justice. I don't want

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Speaker 17: to mislead the audience, though, I would be pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 17: if there is any subjective justice here. But at this point,

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Speaker 17: rita very sadly, I have myself personally gotten accustomed to

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Speaker 17: simply just not get any kind of justice for someone

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Speaker 17: this country, perhaps even this world's greatest scandals.

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Speaker 3: What about the COVID nineteen lockdowns?

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Speaker 17: Are we going to get any accountability from all the

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Speaker 17: people who have coasted these children years of their lives

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Speaker 17: and the most precious developmental years when it comes to

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Speaker 17: learning and social skills, none of it. So I hate

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Speaker 17: to be a pestimist and the pairer of bad news,

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Speaker 17: but I myself have personally gone accustomed to not getting justice.

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Speaker 17: And when you set expectations low, reader, any kind of

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Speaker 17: justice that ends up being a big one.

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Speaker 3: Now, before you go, Josh, Donald Trump is being urged

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Speaker 3: to sue Alexandria Carzio Cortes into bankruptcy after she posted

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Speaker 3: some highly defametory stuff about him on X. The Democrat

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Speaker 3: congresswoman tweeted this, she said, Wow, who would have thought

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Speaker 3: that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of

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Speaker 3: the Epstein files? Josh, is she really that dim that

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Speaker 3: she doesn't understand that what she tweets can see her suit?

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Speaker 3: She has no immunity on X? Or does she think

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Speaker 3: she's untouchable?

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, let's not forget that people have accused

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump of various forms of rape for many years now.

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Speaker 17: In fact, we actually just had one of Donald Trump's

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Speaker 17: many legal ordeals in New York City pertaining to this

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Speaker 17: alleged rendezvous and a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room off Fifth

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Speaker 17: Avenue in New York City back in the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 17: and the judge in that case very clearly concluded that

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Speaker 17: there was no rape. There was perhaps some sort of

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Speaker 17: maybe kind of sort of sexual harassment or misty, but

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Speaker 17: there was not anywhere remotely even close to rape. So

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Speaker 17: there's actually been a legal ruling establishing this very recently.

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Speaker 17: So Alexandrew Cozy Cortez is not just wrong, she is

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Speaker 17: absolutely according to a New York court again, just in

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Speaker 17: the past year and a half, two years, she is

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Speaker 17: easily setting herself up for very legitimate defamation. By the way,

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Speaker 17: given Donald Trump's litigious nature, He's nothing if not litigious.

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Speaker 17: We know that about Donald Trump over may decades. Now,

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Speaker 17: how stupid you have to be to put this out there?

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Speaker 17: I mean, like, how dumb do you actually have to be?

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Speaker 17: I mean holding its the truth for a second, Like

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Speaker 17: why would you subject yourself this? Like, you know, the

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Speaker 17: guy loves his lawyers, he loves sending cease and decess letters,

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Speaker 17: he loves kind of luring up there. The guy lives

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Speaker 17: and breathes the legal drama of the courtroom. Why would

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Speaker 17: you do this? I mean it, frankly says more about

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Speaker 17: Alexandria Kazuo. Cortel is utterly appalling stupidity, frankly than anything else.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's had a couple of big wins recently too,

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Speaker 3: hasn't he, Josh with ABC and CBS. So yeah, you

848
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Speaker 3: probably have an appetite for launching some legal action. But

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Speaker 3: I think she would enjoy the attention as she could

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Speaker 3: play the victim again. The President's coming after me, personally

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Speaker 3: wants to bankrupt me, and it will just give her

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Speaker 3: so much more airtime. Josh Abba, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mitta.

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Speaker 3: That's it from May. I'll see you tomorrow night at

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Speaker 3: eleven with Douglas Murray. Up next, it's Newsnight.