1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, here we go. This obviously wasn't the plan. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: And Cooper Crook, may, I say, you're starting to go 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: through some hot This is how reputations are formed. I 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: just want to tell you just be careful. Okay, here 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: lasted one week. It was a great show. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: By the way, the way next one. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: John's just had a few weeks off. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Well, he's been in the White House with Donald Trump 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: for the UFC, he went to P and G with 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister, and someone spotted him at the FIFA 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: World Cup on the on the diace with the brass. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: As soon as I was told Maddie Off, I'm thinking 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: this is World Cup related. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how Brandy has done this show, has he? 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: He has another high rader, Heavy Walters. 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: Another high rader. So John has been away for three shows. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: That's three highest raders. 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Who you are a chance, Cooper, You're a chance anyway. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: It's lovely to work with you. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: Feelings not mutually. 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: And I understand. 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: I said call the show, Kronk, just call the shit, 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: because you had Luke Keery and it was Kieri and 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Kronk and that sounded a been too much like an 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: eighties cop shot. And I said just call it kronk 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: and they said, no, we're saving that for when he 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: goes to. 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Sky and let's get back to the rundown. 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Now, let's go Dragons and Dean Young come to an 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: agreement and what not. As inevitable, it seemed as it 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: probably should have been, because they've been playing great. 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: I'm unsure right like Flanagan was their seven game losses 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: in the start of the season. You've dated back to 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: last year, it's full loss sus O from eleven if 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: you're comparing pairs like Young's two wins from ten games. 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: But it hasn't been like a clear cut decision. This 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: guy is a coach, right, so I get why the 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Dragons moved the roster. He's won two games with the 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: same roster. There are green Shoots, drink Water, Keon klohe 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Ma Tungy Metcalf Watson, so there is something there. But again, 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: the longer this went on, it was probably more always 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: going to be in Dean Young, But those young Ford Pack, 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: like the Couch and brothers, Egan, like Stuart, there's something 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: there that Dean Young has brought to that team. Is 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: it enough to see him be the coach of the Dragons, 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: for the next five years be the next premiership coach. Unsure, 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: but I dare say with that firepower coming, he's in 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: better shape to move up the ladder next year. 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: This is a situation. You can't judge him until next year. 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: Correct, That is exactly right. Yeah, once he's got a 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: roster that is sort of his own tweaking. He's got 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: more attacking players. They are fighting, They are trying. They 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: tried under Shane Flannagan toomn't you But there just seems 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: to be a little bit more consistency with the Dragons. 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: They inn games a bit longer. He speaks really well. 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: I believe everything he says, but I'm with you in 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: this time. Next year, I think we'll understand if Dean 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: Young can come. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: But is the hallmark of his achievement this year is 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: that they have improved a little. It's a limited list, 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: but they have improved. And they're playing for him. Isn't 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: that the key? That it's very obvious they're playing for. 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: Him, and he is publicly and even after games and 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: made decisions put kid reading. He's done things to rejuvenate 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: that team. And when he speaks, I feel like he's 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: speaking with authority. Passion, and those players are starting to respond. 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Those middle forwards I've already spoken about are the biggest 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: sign of Dean Young's coaching so far. Once he gets 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: a bit more firepower, they might be an opportunity to 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: start beating some teams that played finals, and this time 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: next year will know that. 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: An You know what, fair play to the Dragons for 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: not rushing teams. Clubs are guilty all the time of 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: rushing and over committing to coaches long long term fair play. 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: There was no need to make a decision the day after. 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Iansactly what I do like is we tend to recycle 77 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: coaches in this game. I liked that they took their time. 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Yes he was in through, Yes he's a Dragon's favorite, 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: but they went down a path that they were trying 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: to find the best fit, the best coach for that team, 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: not just go back with an easy decision. 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: What about P and G Chiefs. 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: You know, the underdog story is starting to become this 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: All Stars Miami Heat names so Jerome Leui, Zach Lomax, 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Joey Marnu spotted my man. Can I say before I 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this, I love that these are 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: extra almost extra players Joey Man, who's not. 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: The NRL at the moment, Zack lo makes not the NRL. 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: What do you make of this? 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: I'm a little bias love Joey Man, who we're not 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: meant to have favorites, but he was one of my favorites. 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: On the early half back they had to make center 93 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: tackles for him. But other than that, he's a good guy. 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: If I was starting a team Posts two thousand and 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: nine in our throw Tired, Joey Marny would have been 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: one of the first people have looked at. He's a gun, 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: he's a good human. He's got a young family, and 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: he's an all star, like he is a rock star 99 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: in the mold of say Rees fol Sches. He's a 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: little bit older, and he probably doesn't have the flare 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: or the speed that he used to have. But at 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 3: that time, when he was in the peak of his powers, 103 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: he was a genuine superstar of our competition, whether he 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: played in the centers, five eight or fullback. He went 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: to rugby and I feel like he's chasing a little 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: bit more of that test of athleticism, the bright lights 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: of what is the NRL, and he's coming back to 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: the game that created him. 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Seemed like a lovely, soft spoken guy. What's he like 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: in a club? 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: That's him? He's softly spoken, well mattered moral compass, as 112 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: June North like, he's a good dude. But he can 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: play footy. He can play footy. He's not going to 114 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: be the guy that brings the group together. I think 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: that's Jerome Leuey's role. But he is the type of 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: guy that brings some X factor, some star power on 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: field performance. So I think he'll be there for the 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: right reasons. He's got a young family. You'll buy into 119 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: what they're doing, but you'll have to get a bit 120 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: fitter than he has been last couple of years. But 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: I like this. I like the move of Joey Maning. 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about last week. 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: We're in a fascinating little place here, because now we've 124 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: come out of origin. Did you find it took a 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: while to get past origin? Because it was pretty obvious 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: a couple of teams Penrith roosters seem to have some residue. 127 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: I think whether you're a player, coach, fan, supporter, the 128 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: two or three week post origin, it's hard to get 129 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: a gauge on whether people are at their best or not. 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: The rooster's performance showed that Penrith have showed a glimpse 131 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: of it a little bit. But I think now teams 132 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: will sort of start the next week or two setting 133 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: sail for September. You know, the good coaches always set 134 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: up a theme around the finals. The good players take 135 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: a little bit back in the weeks after Origin and 136 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: then they get their body right sets out again. So 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 3: it's hard to gauge where teams are right at the moment, 138 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: but I think the top eight. I don't want to 139 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: say this for these teams outside like we've got some 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: big games this weekend. If Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane lose, 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: I think they're done. I think they need to win 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: all their games on the way home. There are some 143 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: tough teams, but if those teams that are snapping at 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: the heels of the top eight and they drop a 145 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: game or two, they're quickly out of the race. So 146 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: I think we're going to start seeing shape after this 147 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: weekend of the haves. 148 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: And the habit well. 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Souse and Manly not exactly sitting the world on floor. 150 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: They're not, they're not, and they seem the vulnerable team. 151 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Souse in the eight Manly Now on the outside looking in. 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: I think Manly have four Top eight teams, they are 153 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: remaining games. South Sydney have three top eight teams. So 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: it all comes down to who you're playing. So I 155 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: think Penrith the Warriors. They're the only two teams in 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: our competition that have their game style, DNA, confidence of 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: consistency in all the errors they need to and right 158 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: now they're the only two teams I'd be confident about 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 3: winning big games in September. 160 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: You know, I was watching Brisbane on Thursday. Thoroughly deserve 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: that win, right and I was almost regretting why are 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: they six and eleven because if they were eight and nine, 163 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: we would it would be so easy to talk ourselves 164 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: into the storyline. 165 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Don't let them get in the finals. 166 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: They're the Penrith last year that no one would want 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: to look at. 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: You know, this game? Can Ken Rees Walsh and the 169 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: brisbom Broncos win every game from here on out? It's 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: we romanticize about it and I love it. I would 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: love to commentate every game of Reswulsh from here on out, right, 172 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: But do they win? Do they win? 173 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Seven weeks eight? 174 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: And understand let let's get this love story rolling for 175 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: a few more weeks. Let's say they win the next 176 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: four or five. But I don't think they do. 177 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: But if they beat the Cowboys this week, takes a 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: win off the Cowboys, because that's obviously what you need. 180 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: There. 181 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: We're at that wonderful little stage of the year where 182 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: teams is looking at other teams, like that Gold Coast 183 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Manly game yesterday, right, Manly losing was so good for Souse, 184 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: for Canterbury, for Canberra, for all those teams around there. 185 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: If Brisbane beat the Cowboys, and they've got a great 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: record up there, they lost them this year, we're going 187 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: to start to talk ourselves into it. With the big 188 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: players starting to fire. 189 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: Brisbane can beat the Cowboys. And the talk has been 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: around let in the Ferrari out of the garage and 191 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: Reese Swalsh just rockets into contention. He touched the ball 192 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: more than any of the players of the Bristol Broncos 193 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: on the weekend, so he's going to the contest. He's 194 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: got the swagger, he's got the confidence, he will deliver 195 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: like he won't shy away from it. So there is 196 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: a little bit where he needs to be the main man. 197 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: But on the flip side, if I'm the Cowboys or 198 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: any other team that's playing the Broncos in the next 199 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: six or seven weeks, what would I do. I'm double 200 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: team in Reeswald wherever Reswalsh is, I put in an 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: extra defender. So I think it puts a bit of 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: pressure on Reynold or Man to come up a little bit. 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: We just can't say, hey, Reece, go and do it. 204 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: They need to create space for rees here is the 205 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: story to come up with the big play. But I 206 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: think there's an opportunity for the Broncos to maybe use 207 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: Reese at some stage in the weekend as the decoy 208 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: and get Ezra to do something brilliant, because if it's 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: coming down to a play or two, you just can't say, hey, 210 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: rees do it for us. 211 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: Penrith no problem that mid. 212 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: Season, not worried about a single thing. Top two defensively, 213 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: good completion rate, one of the best attacking teams, Ivan clearing, 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: Nathan Isaiah Edwards Liota. That's enough for me to say 215 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: they will be at a prison final. 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: Warriors are hard to get a read on they're doing, 217 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: and the Roosters are actually doing similar things. They're winning gritty, 218 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: They're winning without actually blowing your way. Warriors have had 219 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 2: a lot of close losses, but against high quality opposition, 220 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: where are they? 221 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: I think the Warriors are more advanced than the Roosters. 222 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: I think the Warriors of you beat in some really 223 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: good games of the year. They compete, they never beat themselves. 224 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: You know, They're like the Panthers in terms of all 225 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: the key indicators you need to get right in September. 226 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: The one thing that worries me about the Warriors is 227 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: I think they need to finish in the top two. 228 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: I think they need to get two home finals to 229 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 3: get to a Grand final. At least finish the week 230 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: week one at home. Then they are a chance because 231 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: I believe that they would be able to beat anyone 232 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: below them and stay away from Penrith at some stage. 233 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: But I love what Fish Harris brings that team. Tomato 234 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: Martin is running the system that Webster wants them to do, 235 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: and Savage defensively like it's if they're at home in 236 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: a final, they will bully you. They will beat you 237 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: up and pound you to the ground, which is a 238 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: good trait to have. 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that'd be bothered. They of course want 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: to finish two. 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: But if they had to come to Sydney to play 242 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: Cronoa or they had to play to play the Roosters, 243 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 244 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: They're bothered by that. I think that the way they. 245 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: Took Penrithon in the middle of the season or be 246 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: a penwith missing Yoe and Cleary, but you could tell 247 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: they wanted the chat, they wanted the big dog that. 248 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: They could beat a team in Sydney. But what I'm 249 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: saying is for confidence momentum, stay at home, get that 250 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: crowd behind you almost have the team that if they 251 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: win Week one, whoever they're playing in the pre limb, 252 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: have them almost beat before they arrived because of the 253 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: intensity that he's going to be. 254 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I went to a final twenty three them against Newcastle 255 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: and Newcastle are on a hot streak. 256 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Remember Caleb Loong, I went, well. 257 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: It was one of those rare moments where you knew 258 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: the game was over before it. 259 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: It's a nightclub like, it's that fun, it's buzzy, and 260 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: I think they need a little bit of that before 261 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 3: they come over here and try and beat some of 262 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: those big teams. 263 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: Roosters are doing all the gritty things in that the 264 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: grinding out wins, which you need to do. That's professional. 265 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: Are they ever going to put an eighty minute performance together? 266 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Hopefully so, I'm not judging. It's hard to read what 267 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: they did on the weekend against the Storm. It was 268 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: a fifty performance enough, didn't it show like the true 269 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: professionalism they probably need to. The Roosters have every ingredient 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: to be premiers this year. They have a big, strong, 271 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: alpha dominated forward pack. They've got a representative spine, they've 272 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: got athletic outside backs that can score a try in 273 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: any moment. But the thing is is can they beat Penrith. 274 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: They're winning percentage against Penrith the last few times is Paul, 275 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: it's one win from thirteen games. If you want to 276 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: try and sidestep Penrith on the way to a Grand 277 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Final victory, it's more hope than destiny, right. So I 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: feel like the thing that will come down to the 279 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: Roosters in a prelim final or a big final is 280 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: ken Walker and Cherry Evans use the ingredients that they've 281 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: got at the Roosters and beat Nathan. That's essentially what 282 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: it will come down to. If they play in a 283 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: prelim or even weak one of the finals. 284 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: You have referenced a lot in your first season, and 285 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: it took a wild gel with Kiri with the Desco. 286 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: But by now round twenty round twenty one had you felt. 287 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: Like you're on the absolutely, absolutely you had. If you're 288 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: trying to create good habits or get your game style together, 289 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: now you're going to be You need to catch file 290 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: like the Brisbon Broncos did last year. That's why I'm 291 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: more confident in what Penterth and the Warriors have done, 292 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: because consistency will ultimately prove the difference once it comes September. 293 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,239 Speaker 2: I did the Sharks game on Friday night against Newcastle 294 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: and it was exactly as tight as I thought it 295 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: might be. And I was looking forward to seeing the 296 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: Sharks because they've been on a run and I haven't 297 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: done them for a while. And it's easy to write 298 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: off their wins against lesser opposition because they've been doing 299 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: that for years. So they win, but they score less. 300 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Trist Yeah, they're such a hard team to get a 301 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: read on. 302 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: They are struggled during the first part of the year 303 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: and almost like one thing. If I'm a Sharks fan, 304 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: that I'm hanging on to is this whole manager of 305 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: the last ride of this group together. Yeah, there's players 306 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: that have been there for four or five years, some 307 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: are leaving, some are staying on. Fitzgibbon wants to see 308 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: their best players delivering a big moment two prelim finals. 309 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: Says that they'll probably get there again, but it will 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: come down to individuals. Ken Fenollen Blake be the ultimate 311 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: alpha front rower and the competition in September, ken Niko, 312 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: Heines and Trindle be the class act that they need. 313 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: They need the magic dust from Hines and Trindle. So 314 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I think if they get to another prelim final, that's 315 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: a pass mark. But if they fall anything short of that, 316 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: I think Craig fits Given might make a few moves 317 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: in the off season to rejig that their style and 318 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: their roster. 319 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Well, that'd be five years basically the same. 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Finals, and if you just keep repeating the same thing, 321 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: you're only going to get the same. 322 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: It feels like their whole season will come down to 323 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: Week one of the finals. 324 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 325 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: We undervalue week one. It's the most important week of 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: the competition, is it is? 327 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: There have been teams that have lost week one and 328 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: gone on to do it. I get that. 329 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: You've got to be a bit special to do that. 330 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: Having been in that, it is absolute their home final, 331 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: week off prelim final, getting a team that hopefully gets 332 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: beaten up the week before and is running on a 333 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: little bit of empty it's definitely the passage through. 334 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: All right. 335 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: So well look at bottom four of the top eight. 336 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: So that's where you've got your South Sydneys. That's where 337 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: you got your Dolphins. Goodwin by the Dolphins yesterday. Who 338 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: are you looking at there as the team that could 339 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: scare scare a team or two in the finals. 340 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago would have said the Dolphins. 341 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: Is he Cartol needs to come back for that football team. 342 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: They showed flight yesterday. I liked it. On their day attackingly, 343 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: they can dismantle any opposition, but Cartola is absolutely critical 344 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: to their chances. Newcastle, South Sydney and the Cowboys look 345 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: at it. Their run. They've actually got an easier run 346 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: than the teams that are catching their heels right, so 347 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: they've got destinies in their hands. They win the games 348 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: they should win, they will make the top eight. They 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: drop a couple and all of a sudden Manly Canterbury, 350 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: maybe Melbourne, Canberra in the Bronx win a few then 351 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: pressure comes in, so that's the key for that. I 352 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: think the Dolphins will play finals for the first time. 353 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: Catull just needs to get back on that side. 354 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: I am. I'm going to give you a rap so 355 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: just it pains me. 356 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: I think halves watch you and Maddie every week, and 357 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: I think you have more influence than everyone does the 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: Cartel shuffle. Now every Halves player is well not every 359 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: half player, but they're replicating the Cartel shuffle, and I 360 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: am noticing halves are running a lot straighter. I'm seeing 361 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: a lot more straight running from halves than forty five 362 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: degree running from halves, and I think, honestly, it's a 363 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: show like this where halves are actually watching and being 364 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: influenced because is it just me or is there a 365 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: lot more straight running from O'Sullivan The other day was 366 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: a great example, he plays I understand that, but I'm 367 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: seeing harms that often run forty five and now they're 368 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: running straight. 369 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one of the key parts to be 370 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: a good half in the competition is I think halves 371 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: go to how can I be pretty? Breakdown? The opposition. 372 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: How can I be the smartest person on the football 373 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: field and that ends up being sideways movement, right, Your 374 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: first movement is always north south, then it's east west. 375 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: Once you start doing the opposite way around, you start 376 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: bringing the fences into the contest. So hopefully they watch, 377 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: but honestly, I think the key to you know, the Dolphins, 378 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: Newcastle South in North Queensland is just don't drop the 379 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: games you're meant to win. Like if you have a look, 380 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: the Dolphins play one team in the top eight, Newcastle 381 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: play two teams in the top eight, sow Cinny play three. 382 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: That's a challenge. North Queensland only one. So if they 383 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: win the games they should, it gets them in there. 384 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: Don't worry about what everyone else is doing. 385 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: Below Could we talk about the Cowboys because that was 386 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: a bit again when the heat was on. Todd Payton 387 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to trust Jake Clifford and he is determined 388 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: for Jackson Perdue to be. 389 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: In the halves. 390 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing because their record with Clifford is 391 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: actually very good, not just this year but in years 392 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: gone by. But it seems when it comes to the crunch, 393 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: Peyton is not all in. 394 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: And I can see that from Todd Payton because if 395 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: you go back and have a look at the history, 396 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: there are moments of pressure and chaos that Clifford hasn't 397 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: stood tall. Right. Diden is the man Drinkwater is the gunslinger. 398 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: And when he chose Deden to come back with Purdue, 399 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: I thought it was all out confidence, all out attack. 400 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: We are going to be running fast, We're going to 401 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: be breaking tackles. And after fifteen minutes it's like, that 402 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: is a good call. Diden's back running the football and 403 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: score on points. But then the lack of the kicking game, 404 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: the lack of some game management came in where the 405 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: dolphin As were coming. They didn't really have that other 406 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: gear to sit back and complete the next ten sets 407 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: and get the game back into their favor. I don't 408 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: mind that Jay Clifford's there. I think Todd Bainton might 409 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: just move that player or decision at different stage. Purdue 410 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: is a gun center. I think Chester and Burdue have 411 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: shown that they are leth on the edges. So I 412 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: don't think that story is done. I think Clifford will 413 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: come back into some. 414 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Stage Dogs Tigers quickly on this that game was over 415 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: when our Sullivan put the ball in the. 416 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Touch the forty one minute, that was the game over. 417 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: How much do you put on O'Sullivan that the turnaround 418 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: and just they brought a certain energy to that game 419 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: that we've seen really this year. 420 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the argument is that Sullivan is a general ballplayers, 421 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: a genuine number seven. The reason why I thought they 422 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: moved crighton to six is they got their best leader, 423 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: best communicator to sit alongside and communicate the players to 424 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: help Lockie Galvin out. Lockie Galvin has all the skills 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: to be a gun half for ten years. I'm telling 426 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: you right now. I've seen him do the short pass 427 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: and some of his kicks. He's got skills. One of 428 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: the things that looks like he lacks is the ability 429 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: to tell people what to do and when to do it. 430 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 3: So Crichton comes in plays really well. But is Crichton 431 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: really going to be the six that beats Penrith in 432 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: the final or gets them into a finals. No. I 433 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: think he's the best center in the world. I think 434 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: Crichton's best asset is playing in the center is because 435 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: if he needs a good defensive decision, Crichton will do it. 436 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: As we saw in origin if there needs to be 437 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: a flick pass this south and the winger Crichton will 438 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: do that too. So I think O'Sullivan will probably be 439 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: the seven well. And it just seems like the Galvin 440 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: with the noise of playing half, it seems to free 441 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: him up and some people have struggled to do it. 442 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: Jerome Lui has been a gun six move to seven 443 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: and looks a bit jade at the different stage. Dylan 444 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: Brown's done a really good job. There has been occasions 445 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: where people have started and moved to seven and all 446 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: of a sudden they don't get the balance of game management, decision, 447 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: controlling the play, kicking the ball, but still coming up 448 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: with big. 449 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: Players O'Sullivan, Galvin Crichton in the sense, boy, I worry 450 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: about the Tigers for the rest of the season because 451 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: they were flat as attack. They were and they looked 452 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: but not just beaten by a Canavery, but they just looked. 453 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: They look like the team that hit that wall that 454 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: so many struggling teams hit late in the season. 455 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: I thought, if out of all the games that Leui 456 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: and Benji and that confidence would come back, I thought 457 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: that was the game. After the week they had there 458 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: was this confidence, energy exciting around the Tigers. In the 459 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: first third of the season, they were probably destined to 460 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: play finals. They were playing that well, and it was 461 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: almost like the team reflected the coach's personality. So much energy, 462 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: so much confidence. Then all of a sudden, the last 463 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: call it ten weeks. There's a bit and shoulders down. 464 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: There's a bit like the game's coming for us, a 465 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: little bit's us against the world type thing. So I, personally, 466 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have let Jerome Luigo. He's with respect to 467 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: the rest of the list, he's the guy that's done it. 468 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: Like those players that you want to invest in for 469 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: the next five years of the Tigers, Jerome will teach 470 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: them something. And I moved him on. Are those guys 471 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: that come into his chair next year in a big 472 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: year for Benji, are they really going to be the 473 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: guys that win more games than they lose. That's yet 474 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: to be proven, but I would have thought that Jerome 475 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: would be more of a positive impact on that team 476 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: than not. 477 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: There has to be a reason they do it. Any 478 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: club makes a decision like that. 479 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: We don't know all they There has to be a reason, 480 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: whether it's clearing money, whether they've got something lined up. 481 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: Like look at the Warriors with Metcalf. They're not letting 482 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: him go because they see, hang on, we might need 483 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: him to win a premiership. There is no reason for 484 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: us to give him up to the Dragons early because 485 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: there is a premiership that we might need him. 486 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: And if marn goes down after winning Week one of 487 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: the finals, Metcalf can come in and win a prelim 488 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: final and then maybe Tomato Martin's good. Like, there's just 489 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: I just wouldn't have let Jerome. 490 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Leave all right before we go. Broncos make or break games. 491 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: There's a couple of them this week, Broncos Cowboys. 492 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 3: So I think it's must win for the Broncos, the 493 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: Storm and the Raiders. So Broncos versus Cowboys, I think 494 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: it's must win. All their seasons done. The Cowboys, well, 495 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: I think playing at home, I think that's a big 496 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: game because the Cowboys dropping, then all of a sudden 497 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: they're they're in free form mode. I'm going to go 498 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: to the Cowboys. 499 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Sous Melbourne, I think Sous should win that. That's 500 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: in Sydney. They thump Melbourne and that'll. 501 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: Be the that'll be the end of Storm if. 502 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: The Wow, that's what would be know what to do 503 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: with us. 504 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: Sort and the Dogs versus the Warriors. Now the Dogs 505 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: put a cricket score on the Tigers. Now we're all 506 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: of a suddenly going to see if that attack can 507 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: hold up against one of the best defensive teams. So 508 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: and the Raiders and Tigers will whoever loses that game, well, 509 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: the Tigers. I don't think the Tigers will make it, 510 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: but the Raiders, if they lose, they've done. Hudson Young 511 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: is an eight NAT player for the Raiders. He is 512 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: a huge loss. He's as big as any other loss 513 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: for another another team and an individual. 514 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: I looked at their record. 515 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: They have one and five or something without him the 516 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: last couple of years. 517 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: He saves tries, he scores tries. He is He's a veryant. 518 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: He's up there with Tarpaning Papali is the most influential Raiders. 519 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: As we talk, we don't know the extended Turbo, but 520 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: are they done without him? 521 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: No, because we've seen that they could win games without 522 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 3: Turbo in the first part of the Here, I just 523 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: think this is the this is Karen for and this 524 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: is coaching like he had he had a free ride 525 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: straight into the coaching chair in one games, like pretty confidently. 526 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: Now we're going to find out what Carraen I said. 527 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: On the radio yesterday, I'm calling with Gordon tell Us, 528 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: I said, Kieran looks like he's got that that coaches 529 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: look on his face, like he's going to ring our 530 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: boss Steve Crawley tomorrow and our strange job back because 531 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: he realizes he doesn't want to do this. 532 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: There might be a few people asking for that job back. 533 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: We survived, Daniels. 534 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: There we go, another host next week. M hm 535 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: Hmm.