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Speaker 1: Mary, Christmas super Coaches. It might not be December twenty

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Speaker 1: five yet, but it might as well be. We've got

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Speaker 1: some goodies. The positions for twenty twenty five have dropped.

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Speaker 1: We've got ninety four new DPPs. The Draft has been

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Speaker 1: and gone, which means the Rookie Bible for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five is imminent as well. We've got plenty to discuss.

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Speaker 1: This is the Phantom speaking back on the official AFL

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Speaker 1: Super Coach podcast for the first time. A big a

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Speaker 1: big crew. Now it's usually a big crew on this show,

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Speaker 1: but this is different. This is a big show. We've

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Speaker 1: got some big names as well. Phantom Junior, Dossie, Merry, Christmas, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back, Thank you. Exciting times we have these DPPs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: looked forward to. The draft was amazing last week as well,

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Speaker 2: So plenty to discuss. Super Coach has really officially started.

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Speaker 2: I know we were starting to talk about it already

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, but now it feels like

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Speaker 2: it's getting closer.

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Speaker 1: And we've got Santa Claus on the show, Saint Nick Father,

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Speaker 1: Christmas Father super Coach, Christmas, Our Peyton over there at

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Speaker 1: the Herald's Son, the Big Sack of presidents is looking

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Speaker 1: pretty big.

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Speaker 3: Our might just be the white hair, but yes, thank

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Speaker 3: you Phantom. Great to be back with some great names

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Speaker 3: here in super Coach. The other thing, of course, we

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Speaker 3: can discuss a little bit later on, is the fixtures

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Speaker 3: dropped too for next year, so opening around his back.

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Speaker 3: I know we're all hanging out for that, but a

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Speaker 3: few little tasty morsels. I think the AFL has actually

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Speaker 3: done us a few favors when it comes to some

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Speaker 1: Indeed, planning to talk about I mentioned the rookie Bible

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Speaker 1: won't be far away the draft. We always look at

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Speaker 1: the draft closely. The cashcows. The backbone of any good

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Speaker 1: Supercoach team are the kids and no one, no one

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Speaker 1: does he knows them better. And our man over there

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Speaker 1: at the Herald Son, our draft guru, can play Supercoach

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Speaker 1: as well. Has a good finish in his history, Dan Batton,

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Speaker 1: A couple of good finishes in my history. I think

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Speaker 1: I all of the top one thousand finishes. Not quite

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Speaker 1: last year I dropped quicker than Dossie, but looking forward

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Speaker 1: to jump in on the podcast. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: Christmas guy, a bit of a grinch. But when it

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Speaker 1: comes to super coach time, hopefully I can provide a

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Speaker 4: I'm a bit more passionate about that sorte of things.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to go through the names to watch

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Speaker 1: for next year. But should super coaches be excited about

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Speaker 1: this crop?

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Speaker 4: I think so yes.

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Speaker 5: In short, there was a few mature ages late in

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Speaker 5: the piece as well, but we don't love spending up

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Speaker 5: for rookies, but I think there's definitely a few that

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Speaker 5: will peel, particularly in that sort of top fifteen, top

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Speaker 4: We know a few of them.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that looking forward to chatting a bit more

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Speaker 5: about some of the names we should probably put on

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to get stuck into it and our of course,

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Speaker 2: your tig's very prominent in the rookie fixture this year,

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Speaker 2: but speaking, we do want to touch on that at

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Speaker 2: the end as well. Another part of the super coach

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Speaker 2: landscape revealed recently the four rounds. Yes, so lots of

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Speaker 2: talk about we'll get to that towards the end of

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Speaker 2: the show. Kick it off with our DPPs, but always

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Speaker 2: remember this season it's going to look a little bit

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Speaker 2: different on the podcast front. Also on the YouTube. If

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Speaker 2: you are watching, you can follow along on Code Sports.

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Speaker 2: star rating as well to make sure we can give

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Speaker 2: you the best content this season.

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Speaker 1: But shall we get stuck into some DPPs fans? I

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Speaker 1: think we should fan him on YouTube too, Maybe is

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Speaker 1: that all right? That's great? Oh, let's open that big

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Speaker 1: giant sack of super Coach goodies. The positions for twenty

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the real father Christmas is Luke Beveridge.

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Speaker 3: We know he has copped it a bit from Supercoaches

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Speaker 3: over the journey, but we have to thank Bevo for

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Speaker 3: what he's done for us with some of the positions,

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Speaker 4: Caleb Daniel is a forward mid.

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Speaker 3: We know we played in defense when he won Premierships

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Speaker 3: And Jack McCrae, unbelievably, this is probably the one that

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Speaker 3: so he doesn't even get DPP for Jack McCrae's been

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Speaker 2: So we started last year with no forwards and this

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Speaker 2: year we've got too many just about. There's plenty more

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Speaker 2: you jumped out fans as your favorite of the bunch.

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Speaker 1: He's our man over here now everyone knows I like

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Speaker 1: Caleb Daniel is going to be very well priced. What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we both, we both jumped on at some stage.

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Speaker 2: pretty high. But yeah, all these names are incredibly exciting

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Speaker 2: You know, when the game does open.

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Speaker 1: If we're rounding up, he average one hundred and three

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Speaker 1: But but we've seen him go so big and we've

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Speaker 1: it's going to be big for super coaches too. But

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Speaker 1: as a forward, he doesn't even need to it takes

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Speaker 2: I think it's just going to be tough to start

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Speaker 2: I think personally is the biggest, biggest lockout of these

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Speaker 2: still got it. He's just not gotten the chance to

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Speaker 2: their midfield. We've talked about I think it's been talking

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Speaker 2: slots straight into there. Dan, I want your thoughts though

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Speaker 2: on another Saint Kilda player with Ford status next year.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about him late last year. Injured towards

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Speaker 5: He wasn't in many teams, but he was in my

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Speaker 4: Does that potentially push Jack Sinkley there? Who knows?

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Speaker 5: And he on the average fifty eight last year, which

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Speaker 4: So I do like that price.

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Speaker 5: I will say on the horny one, I think he's

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Speaker 5: Even if he has a worse year last year, which

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Speaker 5: is unlikely. You'd think he's going to average ninety five,

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Speaker 5: so you lock that in every day of the week.

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Speaker 5: He's not going to be ridiculously expensive, like as Fantom said,

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Speaker 4: So it's probably about five fifty or so.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think you can definitely swing that, even though

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Speaker 5: there are so many coality, other other quality chief options

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Speaker 5: when you've got a Bailey Smith who's also probably about

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Speaker 5: was training the house down today to quote.

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Speaker 3: A hard and did you see Bailey Smith in action?

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Speaker 5: Well, I did see more passed me in the cafe.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't actually been out on the track just yet.

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Speaker 1: He will.

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Speaker 5: I'll be there to provide all the track watch from

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Speaker 5: next week when he actually train the house down from

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Speaker 5: inside GMHBA Stadium. So but yeah, a few of random

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Speaker 5: raved about just how dedicated he is and he's at

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Speaker 5: full fitness. So he's another one I think I'll be

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Speaker 2: Already building those teams, all of us here getting excited

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Speaker 2: for the Super Coach season. I just want to touch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so many names, But I think the other point

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Speaker 5: Nah, always going Nick Dakos over j Jeff, But I

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Speaker 3: I like both of those guys if they've got DPP,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just I'll go through a few of the

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Speaker 2: out the full.

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Speaker 2: And that was my father Christmas searchable list too, very

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Speaker 2: I said, plenty more Trent Rivers holding defender status after

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Speaker 4: We haven't mentioned here about that dropping this morning horse?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the horse.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that might do.

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Speaker 1: We finally get it pushed me out?

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Speaker 4: You've been taking him for years, fans.

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Speaker 2: That'd be interesting what different things he rolls will color?

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Speaker 2: so few other names. Dan Houston pure defender, Harry Perry

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Speaker 2: only number three.

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Speaker 1: I've finished third in the time trial. This one's kids

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Speaker 1: He skipped over Dane Zorko. He's now a pure defender

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Speaker 1: think with Dan Houson out, Jace Bergowin might take a lift,

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Speaker 1: but now he's mid only. Can't go. There's draft only now,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, five names. Simon Kingsley. Thomas Wilson from The

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Speaker 5: Speaking of time trial wins, he's just gone and won

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Speaker 1: You could put the North Time Trial Dan, I think aggressive.

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Speaker 5: But but yeah, I think Colby's a really fascinating one.

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Speaker 5: he can have that similar impact to say a Sheesel

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Speaker 5: or a Decos right away. I think at one stage

438
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Speaker 5: he moved into the midfield earlier in the year, and

439
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Speaker 5: that's when a lot of players traded him out because

440
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Speaker 5: he wasn't scoring as well, but yeah, so I definitely

441
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Speaker 5: wanted to add to the watch list.

442
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Speaker 3: I think Shecheesel and Dacos have sort of changed the

443
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Speaker 3: rules a little bit about you know, he used to

444
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Speaker 3: pick these top end rookies and then you know, enjoy

445
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Speaker 3: them for a year and then you'd sort of wave

446
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Speaker 3: them goodbye and then worry, you know, pick him up

447
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Speaker 3: maybe another couple of years down the track. You don't

448
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Speaker 3: want to pick them up when they've just gone up

449
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Speaker 3: to three four hundred grand. But obviously, you know, just

450
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Speaker 3: sticking with Cheesel and Decos is totally paid off. And

451
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Speaker 3: if if they're good enough, yeah, I wouldn't be discounting

452
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Speaker 3: McKercher fitting into that bracket and the other one.

453
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Speaker 4: Obviously. The biggest question for DOSSI is will you pick

454
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Speaker 4: Harley Reid.

455
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Speaker 1: As let's not ask DOSSI. That's a yes from me.

456
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Speaker 1: I'll have to see how it shakes out.

457
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Speaker 2: But I think he finished the season with just an

458
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Speaker 2: eighty average, which that seems about forty under for me.

459
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Speaker 1: For good Harley. No, let's what one final name to

460
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Speaker 1: talk about? Rushing off Harley? I think rushing off Harley

461
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Speaker 1: just's a lock I mean that's a guarantee. What about

462
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Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, to pick him as a

463
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Speaker 1: mid only.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, as a forward, I'd probably be thinking about it.

465
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Speaker 4: Mid maybe no bud, Yeah, I don't know.

466
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Speaker 3: Like I just said, the rules don't quite apply the

467
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Speaker 3: way they used to, so it wouldn't discount it.

468
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Speaker 1: I want to finish with another second year player, to

469
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Speaker 1: be honest. Al An Adelaide. I've just got a text

470
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Speaker 1: message as well, So I've got one more.

471
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Speaker 2: It's got a request, all okay, My last one is

472
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Speaker 2: an Adelaide man, so you know in the theme bit

473
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Speaker 2: of a split Vic Adelaide pod here. But Dan Curtin

474
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Speaker 2: forward status, pure forward status? Any interest here?

475
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Speaker 4: What will he be priced at?

476
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Speaker 1: Cheap?

477
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Speaker 4: Cheap cheap?

478
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Speaker 1: I'm playing, we don't we want. It's all about what happens. Obviously,

479
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Speaker 1: he gets forward status. He plays a couple of games

480
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Speaker 1: late in the year where he played predominantly forward and

481
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Speaker 1: wasn't subbed out the game like earlier on in the years.

482
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Speaker 1: Obviously that four pisioning equates to what happens in twenty

483
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Speaker 1: twenty five with his super coach position, but depends what

484
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Speaker 1: Matthew Nicks does with Dan Curtin. Where does he fit in?

485
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Speaker 1: Can he fit in straight away with the inclusions they've

486
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Speaker 1: got coming in?

487
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Speaker 4: Is he the one ninety seven centimeter mid like some

488
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Speaker 4: have projected into.

489
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Speaker 2: I think I think finished was eventually seven games played

490
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Speaker 2: at a thirty two point seven average last year, just

491
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Speaker 2: you know, food for thought there for a pure forge

492
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Speaker 2: start after last year, holding defender mid and sort of

493
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Speaker 2: coming into his own later in the season.

494
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Speaker 1: We'll monitor that over here and get back to it.

495
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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I said, I got a message yep from our man hipster,

497
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Speaker 1: Matt Turner one for you hour says, what's Jack Carroll's

498
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Speaker 1: position five? The delisted and relisted Jack Carrol? The hipsters man?

499
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Speaker 2: Is it?

500
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Speaker 3: S Kilden, isn't he we talk about they need midfielders.

501
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Speaker 3: He's a forward, mid forward mid.

502
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Speaker 4: DPP and another Jack as well.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good points, hipster scheme. He'll be cheap too, so

504
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Speaker 3: ye put him down in the list for the rookie bibble.

505
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Speaker 3: When you put it together, you're.

506
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Speaker 2: Bloss speaking of rookie Bible fans. I believe you and

507
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Speaker 2: the man who's called himself the Beast from the East

508
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Speaker 2: chat Dan Baton. You guys have in fact put together

509
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Speaker 2: the first kind of iteration of the Rookie Bible.

510
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Speaker 1: Following the draft, it's the unofficial Rookie Bible. Dan looked

511
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Speaker 1: at a few names that might have an impact next

512
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Speaker 1: year from the draft class. You can get that shortly

513
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Speaker 1: again on code sports dot com, dot un across all

514
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Speaker 1: the mast Ted websites. We're gonna speak about a few names.

515
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Speaker 1: As we said before, the draftees become the super Coach

516
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: cashcows of the following year and the backbone of any

517
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Speaker 1: good super Coach team. But we might as well start

518
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Speaker 1: with the Beast. Dan's go on the Beast from the

519
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Speaker 1: East as his name, as Dossy mentioned, who is the

520
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Speaker 1: Beast from the East.

521
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Speaker 4: Hey, you're looking at him from the eastern suburb of

522
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Speaker 4: the Vermont.

523
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Speaker 5: But now, of course he's probably got another twenty kegs

524
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Speaker 5: on me, and he's actually quick and good at footy.

525
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: So this is Cody Anderson from the Hawthorne Next Generation

526
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: Academy program. He played one VFL game this year and

527
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 5: it yielded a score of eighty six Super Coach points.

528
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 5: So he's a big boloky midfielder. Hence the name. It's

529
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Speaker 5: a bullardergate.

530
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Speaker 4: Really.

531
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Speaker 5: He averaged six tackles a game and six clearances in

532
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Speaker 5: the Coach Talent League and as I said, a very

533
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 5: impressive VFL debut to have an injury interrupted finish to

534
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: the Yeast and he's not one of the top guys,

535
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Speaker 5: but he has drawn comparisons to James Warple just for

536
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Speaker 5: the way he can win the footy and burst away.

537
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Speaker 4: So he's wanted to watch a bit later in the draft.

538
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: He was a later selection, so he's probably at YE

539
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Speaker 5: one hundred and seventeen k sort of mark.

540
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Speaker 4: But just keep an eye out for the beast from

541
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Speaker 4: the East.

542
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Speaker 1: That's why we like the basement price tagle almost base

543
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Speaker 1: price tag. We know the real basement is the rookie draft,

544
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Speaker 1: But who do you like at the top end. We

545
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Speaker 1: know you've been following the draft, or you know you've

546
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Speaker 1: been following these kids at junior level. Who should we

547
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Speaker 1: put on the early not watch list, the locklist for

548
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Speaker 1: rookies in twenty twenty five who were picking from the draft.

549
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Speaker 4: The early locklist.

550
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Speaker 1: I like it.

551
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Speaker 5: I think he put out a video before the draft

552
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Speaker 5: and it was looking at some of the guys who

553
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Speaker 5: probably we thought we were going to go to some

554
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 5: clubs that were you know, sort of locks there at

555
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: the top. One of those was Jaggers Smith at Carlton.

556
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: I think he compliments what Patrick Chrismodan Welsh have in

557
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: the midfield perfectly. In his three VFL games average one

558
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 5: hundred and three super Coach points, an absolute ball magnet.

559
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 5: In two consecutive games in the Coach Talent League he

560
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: had fifty disposals in one and had scored two hundred

561
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Speaker 5: and thirty nine super Coach and then forty the very

562
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Speaker 5: next week, and I think a bit later in the

563
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: season when he next played for the Oakley had forty three.

564
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Speaker 5: So yeah, he is no trouble final of the foot

565
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: He don't let his slim build for you. He's a

566
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Speaker 5: really good pick up I think in super Coach number

567
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 5: three picks Obviously won't come won't come cheap, but I

568
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Speaker 5: think he's worth paying for. I think he's probably the

569
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Speaker 5: one top end rookie to really set put you in

570
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Speaker 5: your sights. Obviously we all know Leviy Ashcroft as well.

571
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 5: I think the role is a bit of a watch

572
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 5: for him. He's probably got more forward craft than will if.

573
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: He has no trouble find the footy either, though in

574
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: his only VFL game for the year, he had over

575
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: thirty disposals and kicked two goals and one of them

576
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 5: was from the boundaries.

577
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Speaker 1: So on hundred and forty one super coach that day

578
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Speaker 1: as well.

579
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Speaker 5: Yeah, took the P one fifty five at id all

580
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 5: levels really in his draft year. And you know, I

581
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: guess the probably might be one of the proved to

582
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Speaker 5: be one of the gifts for super coaches, the fact

583
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Speaker 5: that he did slide to pick five, which means he's

584
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Speaker 5: probably going to get a fifteen to twenty k discount

585
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Speaker 5: on what he would have originally if he had to

586
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Speaker 5: be in the number one pick, which is who I

587
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: feel he was the number one talent, not buye a

588
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: huge margin, but the number one I felt across the

589
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: draft class. So yeah, there's a couple of the guy

590
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: at the very top end, and i'll let you Phantom. Yeah,

591
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 5: I'm looking him a bit more closely. Another boy who

592
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: isn't from Victoria, because obviously I only watched the Victorian talents,

593
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 5: and the same with super Coach. I only big Victorian

594
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: players apparently, So I'll let you discuss Sid Draper.

595
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Speaker 1: It's in character, DOSSI I write that down. He quote

596
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Speaker 1: and said Jago Smith, you know the only one you

597
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: need to look at out of the top group. You know,

598
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Jagas has been playing against other under eighteen's, you know

599
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: the kids you know bottom Ajor's fifteen year old sixteen

600
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: year olds playing in the Coach League over.

601
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 5: There beside his three VFL games through average hundred as

602
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: well and had thirty touches in every game.

603
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Speaker 1: But would you think Dan though in all honesty, bo

604
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: Allen's better than right. Please tell me I think man

605
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: sid draper to the early locklist at this point. Anyway.

606
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: We know what the Crows lack in the midfield, speed,

607
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: power and a bit more explosiveness, and he brings that

608
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: in spades and played senior footy last year, dominated junior

609
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: footy the year before that we know is a dual

610
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: under editing all Australian one hundred and forty seven one

611
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen one hundred and nineteen, one hundred and one,

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and six in his first five sample senior

613
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: matches this year. Was one of south better players when

614
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: he came into the side, so more than ready to go.

615
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: The crowser said he's ready to go and he even

616
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Speaker 1: I think he trained at the club over summer last year,

617
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Speaker 1: a little bit of experience. They have the kids from

618
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Speaker 1: a couple of drafts time come out and by all

619
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Speaker 1: reports that he's running and his GPS numbers impressed fitness

620
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Speaker 1: guru Darren Burgess already at that point. So some good

621
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Speaker 1: signs from sid Draper fits in. Yes, maybe Dan mentioned

622
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Speaker 1: that Jacobs Smith is going to come in and play

623
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Speaker 1: in the midfield straight away. Can Sid Draper play at

624
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Speaker 1: half forward or high half forward like a Ley Ashcroft? Maybe,

625
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Speaker 1: But I still think if we're doing looking at early lock,

626
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Speaker 1: this definitely put him on there for now.

627
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Speaker 5: I think he can slot in and play midfield right away,

628
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: because you saw what he did at sample level. He

629
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 5: was able to burst out of the center square and

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: that's the Crowsy immediately look at their car at midfield

631
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 5: mix sense.

632
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Speaker 4: You know, it's a bit same same, a bit slow.

633
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Speaker 5: You might even have Dan Curtin in there at one

634
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety seven centimeters just taken up all of space.

635
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Speaker 5: N But in all seriousness, yeah, I think that he

636
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: is a very viable option. I had in the top

637
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: five video we've done before the draft. I actually did

638
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Speaker 5: have him at number five. The only question mark maybe

639
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 5: is if he does start on a wing or off

640
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Speaker 5: half forward or even off half back.

641
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he can.

642
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: He has the traits certainly to be able to play

643
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Speaker 5: in that midfield roley way. Someone else who's played a

644
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: lot of VFL footy throughout his draft years is Lea

645
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Speaker 5: Lombard from the Suns. I think he has the frame

646
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: and speed to play right away. Played eleven VFL games

647
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: this year that included a very nice super coach Ton

648
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: against Coburg where he scored one hundred and twenty points.

649
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: The only question mark for him as well is whether

650
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: he does play midfield right away with their very strong

651
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: midfield group. But he was at about I think picked

652
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Speaker 5: nine in the ends his bids, so again a little

653
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Speaker 5: bit cheaper, and I'll let speaking of another guy who's

654
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: gone in and played some state league footy, Dossie, it's

655
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Speaker 5: your time to shine the number one pick who should

656
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 5: have been the umber from the draft, the wa boy,

657
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: the top w a talent in the draft.

658
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bo, the great Bo Allen. But no, yeah, look

659
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: I need to his waffle numbers weren't didn't jump off

660
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: the page, you know. I think he only averaged around

661
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: fifty in the waffle, which compared to some of these

662
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: other guys who playing you know, pure mid it doesn't

663
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: stand out. But in a West Coast team that desperately

664
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: needs anyone to go out there and perform, I think

665
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: job security is probably something that he will have quite early.

666
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: You know, already playing against men. Bo Allen's definitely on

667
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: my radar. But I can if you're watching the YouTube video,

668
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: you'll see our crying in the background. It's been talked

669
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: about apes rookies. Well we haven't even mentioned one of

670
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: the thousand Tigers, Albert. Who are the players you're interested

671
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: in seeing next year? Because I figured it's not guns

672
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: and rookies this year, it's guns and tigs.

673
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: Well, just before we get onto that, I just throw

674
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: in that bo Allen has definitely penciled him in, just

675
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: purely on the fact that the fact that he slid

676
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: down the order a little bit obviously the West Coast

677
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: fans happy and that will help his supercoach price. And

678
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: look at these positions. He's a deaf mid to, so

679
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: we know how valuable they can be. So there's not

680
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: heaps of them around. I mean in terms of the

681
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: Richmond guys, I mean, I really defer to the draft

682
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: experts because it seemed like they really shot for the

683
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: stars a bit with some like super high impact, upside

684
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: sort of players who may not necessarily be the ones

685
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: who just come out Round one and get twenty five touches.

686
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: But of that whole group, Dan, who do you think

687
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: And obviously a few of them have got some injury

688
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: issues that they're dealing with as well. But was there

689
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: anyone there? Surely there's plenty of them. There must be

690
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: one or two that we think can play straight away.

691
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: Well, you sort of cross a few off the list. Obviously.

692
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: The three key forwards in Fall, Armstrong and Sims, they're

693
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: going to take some time. I think Lawa is going

694
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 5: to take some time as well, and he played a lot.

695
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: I'm surprised he didn't actually get forward mid this year.

696
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 5: Might have to chat to freak Go about that one,

697
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: because played a lot of time forward this year because

698
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 5: he was injured, and I think he never really had

699
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: a pre season before because he's played high level cricket

700
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: as well, So I think he will take a bit

701
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: of time to get going.

702
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: And it's a lot that's a big price to pay.

703
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 5: It's nearly two hundred and ten k for a number

704
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 5: one picks, so wouldn't be looking at him. Josh Smiley

705
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 5: is the one for me average one hundred and twenty

706
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: nine super Coach points for the Eastern Ranges another Beasts

707
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: from the East along with me and Cody Anderson.

708
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: There.

709
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: In two consecutive games in the Talent League, he scored

710
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 5: two hundred and nine points. He said thirty four disposals

711
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 5: and kicked the lazy three goals and then had thirty

712
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 5: three disposals and scored one hundred and fifty points. So

713
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: he can go big. He's got that massive frames one

714
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety five centimeters midfielder.

715
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Crips, you can kick?

716
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: Is that fair? Oh?

717
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: Can he kick?

718
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but yeah, I think

719
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: obviously the Patrick Crips comparisons are always going to come.

720
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 5: He slid a bit later in the year, could have

721
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 5: easily look like being every bit of a number one pick.

722
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: About midway through the season, dropped off a touch. I

723
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 5: think didn't quite have the National Championships. A lot we

724
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: were hoping he would, and it was a bit of

725
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 5: a question of is he just a big midfield of

726
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: dominating against smaller kids? But I think he's of that

727
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: Richmond bunch. He's the one you'd expect to get some

728
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: midfield minutes and he has certainly has the frame to

729
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: do it. So he's definitely one I'm going to be

730
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: seriously considering.

731
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: And he's what picked six.

732
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's still at a pretty decent price at

733
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: around one seventy k. She'll get some really good opportunity

734
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: for the Times. Might be going head there with cripts

735
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: in around one Yeah, that's right. Yeah, when he was

736
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty in the titles one hundred.

737
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Now Dan ruled kid out. Then Thomas Simms. If you

738
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: are a lair listener, you're going to be hearing his

739
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: name a lot this year. I can could break a

740
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: record for a blake we've mentioned without never picking as

741
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: we know, we've got Simmy and Thomas Wilson. We've got

742
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Thomas Simsy Wilson, Simsy, Thomas Wilson. However you want to

743
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: do it. So we love that. We loved it in

744
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: the office when he got picked by the Tigers. So

745
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: shout out to Thomas Simms or if you know him,

746
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: we'll get a big rap on the lead. This year.

747
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: We've carried the lead here a bit with a few

748
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: of the VFL guys, and I know Al's been keeping

749
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 5: on a few of these latest selections in the draft,

750
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 5: is it. Is there any of the VFL guys that

751
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 5: really caught your attention?

752
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we know, obviously anytime someone gets drafted at

753
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: age twenty three, twenty four, you know and above the

754
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: radar goes off in supercoaching. We saw last year. Obviously

755
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: someone like Sean Manor was a fantastic pick in the end.

756
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: Sam Closely was really good as well, coming out of

757
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: where a BVFL program, and they seem to be a

758
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: bit of a footy factory down there, producing mature age

759
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: draftees and potential supercoach picks for US.

760
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly.

761
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: The one that stands out I think he's Riley Bise,

762
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: who Sidney took a pick forty one age twenty four.

763
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Just yeah, all the things you'd like to hear that

764
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: he moved half back this year in the VFL and

765
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: you know, really dominated back there. He averaged twenty two

766
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: disposals and one hundred and one super coach playing in

767
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: the VFL. And there's been just a little bit of

768
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: talk already this ones I think he can salt straight

769
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: in there potentially an half back flank at AFL level.

770
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: So and the fact that he's later in the draft,

771
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 3: he'll be pretty cheap attrack the premium those top Eden guys.

772
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's he's definitely going to be

773
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: very high on the radar. I mean a couple of

774
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: the others that got picked up, I mean, I really

775
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: like I was a bit bummed out that Richmond didn't

776
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: get Sam Davison. He's been playing in the Tigers VFL side,

777
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: but the Bulldogs picked him at pick fifty one.

778
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: I love his nickname.

779
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: I think he's been doing his medical degree for five

780
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: years and he's been moving around the state in the

781
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: country and he just plays footy wherever he's medical placement

782
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: has been. So he's named the nickname the Doctor Dtor Davidson,

783
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: and so I'll be running with that. But yeah, the

784
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: winner this year of the Fothergill Round Mitchell Medal for

785
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: sort of most what is most promising young player in

786
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: the VFL, And you look at some of the names

787
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: have won that.

788
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: A Fantom favorite, Nick Newman.

789
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Back in the day, Kane Lamber won at Bailey, Fritz

790
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: Luke Ryan and then close he won it last year

791
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: so and then obviously came in and it was a

792
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: great pick for us in Supercoach, So yeah, definitely a

793
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: lot to like there, and the Richmond VFL program has

794
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: actually been pretty good for us in Super Coach as well,

795
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: Sam Duram, Massimo den Brosio coming out of there. Even

796
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: someone like Jake Art's played a few games in my

797
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: Super Coach team a few years ago, so yeah, definitely

798
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: some things to like about him too. But obviously he's

799
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: a bit more of a key forward Sam Davidson, so

800
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: every day he's super coached, so maybe he's got a

801
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 3: bit more to his bow than just kicking golf, So maybe.

802
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: Wanted to watch.

803
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: In the preseason at the Dogs, Melbourne got Aiden Johnson

804
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: from also from Whereby's VFL side at pick sixty eight.

805
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: But I think, to me, not knowing a lot about him,

806
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: he looks much more like a bit of a sort

807
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: of a state home kind of forward that maybe not

808
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: so much for the Super Coach. But then I've got

809
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: a few other names that are training with clubs so

810
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: hoping to win spots on the list and maybe you know,

811
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: one of these essays spots which yea has been great

812
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: for us in the past, someone like Nick Martin coming

813
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: in at absolute rock bottom price and has been great picks.

814
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: So another where we player where we captain.

815
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: Don brew story where he's emailed all the AFL clubs saying,

816
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: just give me a chance to come down and train

817
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: and I'll show you what I can do.

818
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: He's twenty seven and he's going to get that chance

819
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 4: with the Doggies.

820
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: So to me, he just screams a classic Bevo player,

821
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: like an Anthony Scott or was his name, McNeil McNeill, Yeah,

822
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: like these Bevo loves these guys, you know, give him

823
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: a chance and he does play them. So if he

824
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: wins the spot on the list, I reckon he's a

825
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: chance to get some games.

826
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: He ever got his numbers? Oh you got him there?

827
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, go for it, Yeah, go for it?

828
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Does he twenty eight points, six disposals, eighteen contested possessions,

829
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: ten clearances a game, one hundred and forty four super

830
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: coach points. And I'll tell you what, he's got a

831
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: few fans because whenever we post some Don Brewe content

832
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: on the socials, that pops off. So clearly a massive

833
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: name in the VFL respected by opponents and teammates alike.

834
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, good luck to him. Hopefully he gets a

835
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: spot on the dogs there and he'll be straight into

836
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: all of our super coach teams.

837
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 5: Dossie, I've got his last ten scores of season. It's

838
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: fansom area here we go, real mind, not sample actual numbers,

839
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: VFL state league numbers. So his last ten games one

840
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: seventy nine, one sixty four, two o eight, two oh two,

841
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: one thirty five, one fifty one fourteen, one forty one

842
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 5: eighty six in the VFL Prelium and one thirty seven

843
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: in the VFL Grand Final. That's not sample under ety numbers.

844
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: It's not made up footy. There's not dogs running onto

845
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 5: the oval. As Hipster says, that is legit, and then

846
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: we can have him played back pocket for better if

847
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: he does be the sub. What can you tell us

848
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: over there about Jack Watkins from North Melbourne. He's over

849
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: here training with Polaid at Albert and Jase Burgoyne, when

850
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: Port returned to training, said that compare him just.

851
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: A little bit like Zach Butters the way he attacks

852
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: the footy and goes after on the small glimpse he's

853
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: seen there, so if he gets a spot, is he

854
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: won again one O two k rock Bottom price, could

855
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: we consider him?

856
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting one, just having to look at

857
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 5: his numbers, like he's gone quite well last year for

858
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 5: North Melbourne twenty five disposal of a game, one hundred

859
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: super coach points. So and geez Zach Butter's comparison that

860
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: they does get thrown around a bit, but you know

861
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: that's it's no mean feed to be compared to him.

862
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: So it was just a consistent ball winner at VFL level.

863
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: In one game had thirty eight disposals at one hundred

864
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 5: and forty two super Coach points for North Melbourne's VFL side.

865
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he's certainly an option as well

866
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 5: from the SSP. Just a couple more draftees who I

867
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 5: neglected have mentioned before. I think Toby Travali is a

868
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: big watch for super coaches. I think he's probably going

869
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 5: to play in defense to start his career. We saw

870
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 5: how ross Lyne was very keen to get Asie Wilson

871
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: in to the side last year and he played most

872
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: of the season. I think that could be a similar

873
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: case with Toba Javalia, a two kilometer time trial king

874
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: as well and averaged some really good numbers off half

875
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 5: back and through the midfield one hundred and twelve super

876
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: Coach points at the Under eighteen champs rather and seventy

877
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 5: four super Coach in his two VFL games, so a

878
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: lot to like for him. I think he's potentially did

879
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 5: deaf mid as well, so another good option there. Xavier

880
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 5: Lindsay another one. He was best on in the biggest

881
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: game of the year at the Under eighteen Championships and

882
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: he averaged one hundred and twenty one super Coach points

883
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: per game. He's the one who could potentially play off

884
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: half back or through the midfield for the D's. And

885
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: then there's another one I think up forward who could

886
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: come into our thinking. You know, often we maybe overlook

887
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 5: guys like a Joshus Shelley Nick Watson playing up forward,

888
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: but Isaakkaco is actually a midfield midfielder forward in super

889
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: Coach and had some big games playing in the midfield

890
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 5: for the Called Cannons throughout the year.

891
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: But I think he's a plug and play sort of

892
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 4: forward for the Bombers.

893
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: They really lack X factor in their forward fifty and

894
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 5: I think he's one who you'd say at this stage

895
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: looks looks around one lock barring injuries, so another watch there.

896
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: He's a little bit more expensive.

897
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: And then just a key forward from West Coast who

898
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: was one of the biggest sliders on Draft NIGHTE. He

899
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: played three games of VFL footy for Usten in an

900
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 5: average ninety points. That's Jobe Shanahan slips about pick thirty three,

901
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: so he think he'd probably be about one hundred and

902
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: twenty three k. We don't usually advocate for key forwards

903
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: as rookies and super coach, but the fact that he

904
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: was able to outshine Peter Wright there at Smon VFL

905
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: later in the year means he's a bit of a

906
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 5: watch as well.

907
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: Some good in tell they're from the man that knows.

908
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: But I do want to ask our the question now,

909
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: moving on a little bit, can you actually pick the

910
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: ten Richmond rookies you want to play? What does a

911
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: fixture look like? Would it ruin your team? We know

912
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: the buyers. A big issue opening round is back. What's

913
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: your take out there?

914
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, one of the takeouts is no. I think

915
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: it's just a clear run for all those young tigers

916
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: and any other cheap ones that might come along. Like

917
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: maybe a Josh Gibb because if he's ready for round one,

918
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: though it sounds like they're not going to rush him

919
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: at all, so we might have to wait a couple

920
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: of rounds to see him, which is a little bit unfortunate.

921
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, Richmond somehow didn't qualify for opening round

922
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: next year. I'm not sure what they based that on,

923
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: but a little bit of a shakeup from the AFL.

924
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: But as you say, probably the big takeout is that

925
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: opening round is back, so we have those four games

926
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: before the season really starts, and as we know, they

927
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: won't count towards super coach, you'll lock your team in

928
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: four round one, but we get to see those games

929
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: in advance, which is good on the one hand, but

930
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: then those teams have the early buys, so the first

931
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: four rounds well, Round one is a full round, everybody

932
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: plays Round two Gold Coast and the Giants have a buy.

933
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: Round three I think is the one that could be problematic,

934
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: where we have Brisbane, Collingwood, Geelong and Sydney all on

935
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: the bye and round four Esthenon and Hawthorne, so that's

936
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: those early bys. So I think one lesson I learned

937
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: last year is you could probably afford to carry maybe

938
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: more plays than we actually did.

939
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 4: We're all scared off a bit.

940
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: And as it turns out, especially when you're only playing

941
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: best dight in scoring, you can afford to have one

942
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: or two guys sitting on the bench. If you wanted

943
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: to pick Tom Green, for example, who misses round two,

944
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: I think you can probably cover that fairly easily. But

945
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: when you've got four teams on the by makes it

946
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: a little bit harder. So then you've got your Nick

947
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: Dakos types sitting there in that round three, So that

948
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: does throw a little bit of another question mark over

949
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: some of those guys. And then you touched on it

950
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: earlier in the middle of the season. We actually have one, two, three, four, five?

951
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Was it six?

952
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 4: By roundsken that correctly so or five it is?

953
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: Sorry, so we've got one more than we used to have.

954
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: So that's you know, we don't like buyer rounds necessarily,

955
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: so getting one extras not ideal.

956
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: Except the positive out of.

957
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: It is that none of those buys feature more than

958
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: you know, there's only four teams on the bye each

959
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: week rather than six, so that should be a little

960
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 3: bit easier for us to cover. You know, you shouldn't

961
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: have a team, you know, have half your team missing

962
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: best dating. Yeah, exactly, and we you know, we'll confirm

963
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: all these the rules with us very soon. But yeah,

964
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you'll be best dating, so that should make

965
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: it a little bit easier. And there's no teams like

966
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: last year we had the Swans and the Giants I

967
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: think both had an early buy in the first five

968
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: six rounds and then they had another buy in round twelve,

969
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: so it made it almost impossible to pick you know,

970
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: the lucky meel types and meant that someone like the

971
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: fandom could jump on at round twelve and get them

972
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: for a great price and ride them home, but made

973
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: it hard to pick him a starting picks. But there's

974
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: no teams like that have that same sort of you know,

975
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: two buyers in the first twelve rounds this next season,

976
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: so that's a nice little bonus. And of course the

977
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: one that stands out is round thirteen you have only

978
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: the two teams on the buy and this year that

979
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: is some Kilda and Fremantle so and neither of those

980
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: teams play in round zero, so you think they're going

981
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: to be the easiest to cover out of anybody. So

982
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: if you want to start with saying to Dockers in

983
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: your team, you pick as many as you like.

984
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: Hayden Young, lock him in dos huge only, Yep, he's in. Yeah.

985
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: A couple of couple of names immediately jumped out to

986
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: me though for the early by rounds, given that we

987
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: now know the opening round, Maddi Roberts is going to

988
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: be in ninety nine percent of teams after he drops

989
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: a one fifty in round one. There is actually a

990
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: lot of names in that mid price bracket, so it's

991
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: going to be pretty interesting. You've got to, you know,

992
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Kitty Coleman, we're going to get a look at Baslenka.

993
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: We're going to have Yeah, as I said, Maddi Roberts,

994
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: a will day that I've been thinking about, Callum.

995
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: Mills, like all the round guys opening round.

996
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: All these guys are playing opening round, so we're probably

997
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: going to have to, you know, pick our poison when

998
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: it comes to these mid prices. We're going to get

999
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: a good look at at a bunch of the popular

1000
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: ones anyway come opening round, so that we can of

1001
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: know that heading into round one. And yeah, it looks

1002
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: like we're going to get a bunch of rookies to

1003
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: pick though, and that's going to be probably the fun

1004
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: part because we aren't going to have a look at

1005
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: a lot of the most popular ones, so we're all

1006
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: going in it together.

1007
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: I think there.

1008
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1009
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: I think just to touch on quickly with the fixtures

1010
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: of the AFL announcing that will be Thursday night footy

1011
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: for most of the season, so that locks in. That's

1012
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: really fun couple of hours on a Thursday when the

1013
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: teams drop and then there's a game on and you're

1014
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: trying to get everything sort of. But probably one of

1015
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: the big winners from an AFL club perspective was Essendon

1016
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: going to play a lot of those Thursday nights. So

1017
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: does that increase the appeal of someone like a Zach

1018
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: Merritt who you could just lock you know, he's your

1019
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: perma VC virtually, just watch him every Thursday night and

1020
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: if he scores well, which usually does, just lock him

1021
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: in and you've got your captain sorta for the weekend.

1022
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1023
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: I like it also benefits the Harley Reid fall back

1024
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: captain our with all those Sunday games that they're going

1025
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: to play.

1026
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: The I think we learned you rookies in mid prices,

1027
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to worry about that early

1028
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: by as much. With the value of options, we sort

1029
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: of still picked them. Maybe just the balance of your

1030
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: premiums I think is the key. And like I said,

1031
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I think we did get a bit too worried and

1032
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: caught up to what it might mean last season. So

1033
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: plea to talk about over the pre season how we

1034
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: can handle a bit differently. Yeah, it's exciting times.

1035
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: Super Coaches very very close to it almost officially back

1036
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: is it. We've had our Santa Claus nice early gift

1037
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: of DPPs. Thanks guys as well for the beautiful Rookie

1038
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Rookie insights as well.

1039
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: Yep, unofficial official Rookie Bible coming very soon if it's

1040
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: not up by the time you're listening, and will be

1041
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: up very soon to get stuck into before some more

1042
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: goodies maybe drop mid December as we get to the

1043
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: real Christmas.

1044
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, the Team Picker will be out

1045
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: probably only a few weeks time now, so yeah, we're

1046
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: really really building up to it. So that's for Super

1047
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Coach Plus subscriber, So if you're not one of those,

1048
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: he has a good time to get in give us

1049
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: a date.

1050
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: It's present too. You should buy the Mate, but your

1051
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: office colleagues sitting next to you, whoever you want buy,

1052
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm a super Coach Plus subscription. If you don't want

1053
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: to talk to your family on Christmas Day or Boxing Day,

1054
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: sit there and be doing my team.

1055
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: We like it coach friends, which are my players, my

1056
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: rookies or my rookies?

1057
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: All right?

1058
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, seeing his fansom can't seem to wrap this up,

1059
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: make sure you follow along on Spotify, Apple, wherever you

1060
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,279
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1061
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: Code Sports YouTube is where you find us for all

1062
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: your super Coach AFL goodness.

1063
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: Hit us up.

1064
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: We're going to be doing plenty more in the podcast

1065
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: space in the preseason. We are close to back to

1066
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: regular scheduled programming. We'll have plenty more content coming your

1067
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: way very soon. So yeah, hit subscribe, follow it wherever

1068
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: you're listening over to your fans.

1069
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a big year. Thanks to her

1070
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: friends over a Victoria for coming on and having us

1071
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: a few more crossovers to come the lair and now

1072
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: and Dan the official crew over there, said to be

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