1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On scorls Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the winder Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader. Panekey show coming 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: up tonight. A massive payday coming for the union movement 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: as business leaders warn of the Albanesi government's industrial relations agenda. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Nick Kata and Gary Hardgrave will be with me shortly, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: the brilliant Batia Unga Sagon will have the latest from 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: the US and later in the hour Kinzisko Field with 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: all the celebrity and royal news and Left is losing 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: it features this startling revelation. Punctuality is white supremacy. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Being on time is weight supremacy, because what are they 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: always on time? 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: They do? Oh press but first. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Fears of an eighteen billion dollar hit to the economy. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: AMID claims that the Albanezer government is planning to implement 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: a nationwide portable long service leave scheme, meaning workers would 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: accrue long service leave when working in a single industry 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: rather than in a single company industry. Analysis obtained by 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: The Australian show such a scheme could deliberate nine hundred 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: million dollar revenue stream to unions, with business chiefs concerned 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: about the potential for employees to double dip via different 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: long service leave laws. Joining me now for more on 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: this are at Menzi's Research Center. Senior fellow Nikata and 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Gary hartgrave Nick. 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: I'll start with you. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: Business leaders are raising concerns that a second term Albanesi 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: government is going to push an even more radical industrial 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: relations agenda. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: I've got to. 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Ask, where have these business leaders been. The election is 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: two days away. 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we would like to hear more out of them. 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: I think the problem is when you talk about business leaders, 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: you're usually talking about the big end of town, the 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: if you represent the big corporations. Because small businesses, you know, 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: the corner shop or the people that run the service 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: station or run a plumbing operation. Time they don't have 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: time to engage in this so and nobody does it 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: for them. Nobody stands up for them. And of course 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: to this kind of measure that you've outlined, there's so 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: called portable long service leave, so you don't actually do 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: long service with anybody. You just you know, have no 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: incentive to be loyal to a company. But it really 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: will hit small business hard. They can't provision for this 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: in the way that big business can. And because as 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: you point out it's going to be run by the unions, 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: who will clip the ticket on the way through, as 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: they do so much of the time, which is where 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: they get most of their money. Nowadays. It's not from 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: members fees because very few people are joining unions. It 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: comes from schemes like this. 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: Gary. 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: This will be a windfall for the union movement, and 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: certainly the union movement has been emboldened in recent years. 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: But surely that's a good thing for workers. 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, it may not be, reader because you see, this 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: is the ongoing match who fully corporatized Australia, Big unions, 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: big business, big government, and they don't want small business. 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with the difficulty of individual entrepreneurs. 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: They don't want individuals at all to have rights. It's 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: about you've got to plug in to this. You've got 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: to be beholden to government. Government will provide you with this, 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: and if they don't, of course unions will provide you 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: with that. That suits big business because they are quite 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: happy to deal with smaller groups of people as well. 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: So look, I think this is frightening, it's dangerous. The 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: impact on everyday Australians will be enormous. But it's not 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: the only thing Elbow wins on Saturday. We're going to 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: get inheritance tax, we're going to get unrealized capital gains tax, 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: We're going to get Voice two point zero. It's going 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: to be okay to lie yourself back into office. This 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: is a very serious situation right now, just days out 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: from the election. 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, let's just talk about that for a second, Nick, 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: we are just a couple of days away. And it 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: seems the scare campaigns have come primarily from labor who 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: are in power. 78 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: Normally it's the other way around it. 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: Normally it's the opposition that's in attack mode. But there 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: are actual policy areas where the Liberals should have gone 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: far more negative. Voice two point zero is one of them. 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: We've had Penny Wong in recent days saying that's something 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: that's they're going to look at again because it was 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: a mistake. She's likened it to same sex marriage. And 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: then when you look up look at these industrial relation laws, 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: when you talk about tax reform with capital gains tax negative. 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: Gearing, there was a lot of area. 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Where the Coalition could have gone on the attack far 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: more strongly than they have. 90 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, with a lot more evidence incidentally, than this crazy 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: attack on nuclear power is costing fifty billion trillion dollars 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: or whatever they're saying it is, which is clearly not. 93 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: It's lots, so that the coalition could have gone on. 94 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: I think that they should have gone harder from the start, 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: But to be fair, I don't think they've had much 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: oxygen because what's happened because Albin Easy sets in train 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: this it's all the position's fault idea, and of course most 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: of the media, ninety percent of the media just jump 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: onto this, all the questions they get asked on this 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: stupid nonsense because they want alb and Easy to win. 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: That's the cold, hard fact of it. 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: They do. 103 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: And so you've got a contenders opposition leader of your 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: conservative opposition leader, not just against the government of the 105 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: day in this case, but against almost the entire media establishment. 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Is a big, big battle. So I'm not going to 107 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: be too critical at this stage, but yes, yes, there 108 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: is so much that's wrong with the government's policy, including 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: the fact that it ductually doesn't have any serious policy 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: on things like energy, and with what's happening at the moment, 111 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: that's really scary. Once the Greens get hold of that 112 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: agenda and start pushing it forward. 113 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: Well, that definitely has been growing voter concern around the 114 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: Liberal's nuclear plan, if you believe the polling that's today. 115 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: That has been a significant issue in this election. And 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: much of that fear is driven by the Labor Party's 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: persistent use of the very misleading six hundred billion dollar 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: figure that was concocted by the Smart Energy Council. 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 4: Now, this is a. 120 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Renewables lobby group, it's linked to the Labor Party, and yes, 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: yet their data is used as gospel by so. 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: Many in the media and by the government. 123 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: Now, the Smart Energy Council has really refused to explain 124 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: how they came to this figure, how they put the 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: study together, what was behind their modeling. 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: Gary the six hundred. 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: Billion dollar figure, it's even a lot higher than Chris 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: Bowen's favorite organization, their CSIRO's modeling. But you've got to 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: say the strategy has been effective if the polling is accurate. 130 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: Voters are scared of the cost of. 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Nuclear Yeah, no, they can't handle of truth, so they 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: go with the lie and let look readA In the end, 133 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: the three of us have all reported on news items 134 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: over a long period of time We've all seen all 135 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: this stuff before. Where's the inquiring mind amongst journals? Why 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: have journals turned into pr agents? George Orwell said, if 137 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: they're not criticizing you, its public relations. You know, there 138 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: should be a cynical journalist that work somewhere in Australia 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: that's actually asking the hard questions. The facts are that 140 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: nuclear is a thousand times more efficient use of any 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: land than all of these wind turbines and solar panels. 142 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: They have to take up so much more space and 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: they produce a lot more electricity for the amount of 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: space they take up. And every other country around the 145 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: world is going towards nuclear. We're not. So I just 146 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: think whoever wins on Saturday, nuclear is going to be 147 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: on the agenda. It's going to happen. It has to 148 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: happen because we're not going to be able to make 149 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: anything in Australia. We're not going to be able to 150 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: be self sufficient on any front. We're not going to 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: be able to defend ourselves. We're going to be lying 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: on China to make our warships. I mean, spare me. 153 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Is this how bad Australia has got to get? And 154 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: we're going to go further down the tubes for people 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: in Australia to finally understand how bad this government has been. 156 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: And well, whether the Opposition win or lose on Saturday, 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: we are going to go nuclear because we just simply 158 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: have to. 159 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: We have to. 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: But how could the Prime Minister Chris Bowen possibly prosecute 161 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: that case Nick? With everything they have said about nuclear energy, 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: all the scare campaigns they've run, all the claims about 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: how is not sustainable, it's not commercial, it could never 164 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: possibly happen without bankrupting the economy, how can they do 165 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: it what eighty and introduce nuclear after all that? 166 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, they're stuck, and if they're asked a few hard 167 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: questions they might be in a bit of bother because 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: the question is how can you do without nuclear? 169 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 7: Right? 170 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: If we're not allowed to use coal anymore, what's your baseload? 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: I mean they're trying to tell us that win solo 172 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: can be baseload. I mean they're denying the physics, just 173 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: in the same way that the trans lobby deny the biology. 174 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: You know, you just can't get round those facts that 175 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: intermittent non the power that doesn't set in a neat 176 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: fifty cycle is dangerous in the system. It's not just 177 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: not very helpful, it is positively dangerous, as we've seen 178 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: this week from Spain where their energy grid decided to 179 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: take us to Esther in the middle of the afternoon. 180 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: Now, well we'll get back to Spain. 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: But Gary, just lastly, on the Smart Energy Council, they 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: enjoy charity status. Does that pass the pop test? 183 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so. And if anybody is going 184 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: to go around and call themselves smart anything, they're really 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: not smart. 186 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: You know. 187 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: The Labor Party have lied and conveniently lied and lied 188 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and lied and lied. And if Australias want to back 189 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the lie, then I guess that's what we've got to suffer. 190 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: But there's going to be a lot of angry people 191 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: on May fourth. Whether it's going to be the Jedis 192 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: of the Empire, I don't know what's going to win, 193 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: but I think the Cyths are going to be in 194 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: control and the Greens are going to have a lot 195 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: more than they should when it comes to the way 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Australia's run and we're just going to be ruined. We're 197 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: going to This country is stuffed and it's going to 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: get more stuffed if the election goes the wrong. 199 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: Way, it certainly is a consequential election, and I think 200 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: that's why it's so disappointing that it's been so lackluster. Really, 201 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: we haven't had those great debates, those great ideological debates 202 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: about energy, about population, about cultural issues that I think 203 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: has been what's disappointed a lot of people. I want 204 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: to ask you about this clip of Anthony Alberaneasi. It's 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: getting a lot of attention online. 206 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: It's a bit of an. 207 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Awkward, awkward little encounter with a Labor Party volunteer that 208 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister appears to brush off. 209 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: Are you excusing your boss? 210 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? How the Liberals have seized on that footage and 211 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: put out this social media ad not keen to get 212 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: stuck talking? 213 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: Are you kissing your boy? Yeah? 214 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 7: Nice? Anyway a liberal camera? 215 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: Oh Nick, that's a bit cheeky from the coalition, isn't it. 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure prime ministers politicians have done that many times, 217 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: brushed off somebody when they don't have the time to 218 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: to to speak to them. I do you think they 219 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: were being a bit harsh with the Prime minister there not. 220 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: A Tory reader, because he's is the Prime minister who 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: says his story is no one left behind unless he 222 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: decides to push them behind him. You know, it's completely 223 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: against what he's saying. He's trying to tell us that 224 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton is a bully, that he's aggressive, that 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: he's just is you know, bosh, and we'll get completely 226 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: the opposite from Peter Dutton. And yet from the Prime Minister. 227 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: He gets very short tempered and he doesn't seem to 228 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: care much about ordinary people, does he. I mean he 229 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: treated that woman like he's seems to be treating most 230 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: ordinary people over the cost of living and other issues 231 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: which are really hurting people's lives. So yeah, no, I do. 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty nasty behavior for the Prime Minister. 233 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: Gary. 234 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: I've got to say, if the situation was reversed it 235 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: was Peter Dutton treating a volunteer that way, the media 236 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: would be in meltdown over it. 237 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: And we've seen footage. 238 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: Peter Kredlin has played this on her program throughout the 239 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: week of the press pack being so hostile to Peter 240 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: Dutton when questioning him, whilst they treat Elbow like he's 241 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: a mate. 242 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: It is hard to deny. 243 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 3: Despite the fact that they're supposed to be impartial unbiased journalists, 244 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: not opinion leaders. 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do opinion. That's what we do. I mean, 246 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: I host radio on what we see in Brisbane. I 247 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: do opinion. You do, opinion reader, I mean, this is 248 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: what we do. But journalists that are basically still overcoming 249 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: the shock of puberty are showing up to actually ask 250 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: alternative prime minister's tough questions. They're reading it off their 251 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: iPhone because the editor said, here, stupid work experience, kid, 252 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: go and ask somebody a tough question because grownups won't 253 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: ask these questions because grown ups would actually filter it. 254 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Now, Labor has managed to successfully make Medicare and share 255 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: this election. They've whipped up a medi scared two point 256 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: oh and pulses are saying that it's working, that the 257 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: coalition's attempts to counter these attacks is not resonating with voters, 258 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: and instead that coalitions counter promises on Medicare are being 259 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: drowned out by Labour's scare campaign warning of cuts under 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: the opposition leader Nick. This is surprising because if you 261 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: look at the detail, Labour's own Medicare policy promises are 262 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: being criticized by peak bodies like the National Association of 263 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: General Practice Management. They say, it's all smoke and mirrors. 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: This notion that most patients will be able to see 265 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: a doctor for free is a fantasy. 266 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: Well, exactly what they've put forward is hopeful statement that 267 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: everybody will get Medicare for free, to get doctors visits 268 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: for free, with no actual way of backing this up. 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: So they haven't actually thought through the policy challenges. How 270 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: do you get enough doctors, how do you get enough 271 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: doctors in the right places at the right time. How 272 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: do you get a doctor to work in the back 273 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: of Burke on a Sunday afternoon when he's needed. You know, 274 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: none of these things they address. It's just all about slogans. 275 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: And they also, of course conveniently brush over the fact 276 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: there's been a massive drop in bulk billing rates since 277 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: they came to power unpresidented for over the last three years. 278 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's necessarily all together their fought. 279 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: There are structural things to hear about, you know, supply 280 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: of doctors and so forth, but they won't address any 281 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: of that. It's just a slogan, isn't it. So we 282 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: can't expect them actually to achieve anything at all in 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: government unless they're keeping all those planned secrets somewhere. 284 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: Now, let's get back to those blackouts in Europe. We 285 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: spoke about it earlier in the week. This is just 286 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: a enormous crisis. Sixty million people plunged into darkness, and 287 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: just days before this mass blackout, Spain was celebrating its 288 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: reliance on renewable energy. 289 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: They're not celebrating any more, Nicker. 290 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: What lessons can we take from what's happening in Europe 291 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: right now? 292 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: Well, the number one lesson, of course is we cannot 293 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: possibly get to net zero this way. In fact, we 294 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: can't get there anyway. In my view, I agree with 295 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Tony Blair, the former Labour Prime Minister of Great Britain, 296 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: who's told Keir Starmer, the current Labor Prime Minister, that 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: he's dreaming with the idea of zero twenty fifty. But 298 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: putting that aside, what we've got here is just it 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: shows up that what we've been pushing into the system 300 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: is junk energy. It really can. You cannot keep putting 301 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: more and more renewables into the system and expect the 302 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: grid to remain stable. That's what's happened in Spain, and 303 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: it's funny to watch the renewable lobby here Rita come 304 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: up with all sorts of excuses. I read one article 305 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: to day in renew Economy, which as you know, is 306 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the sort of prafter for the renewable industry. It's saying 307 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: that it was all Spain's fault because they didn't put 308 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: in enough batteries. What really a country dow size with 309 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: that population, they're going to keep the light on with 310 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: batteries like it's nuts. But the people, I don't know 311 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: whether they're deluded or just driven by the money, but 312 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: either way they are completely stark, staring bonkers. And as 313 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: soon as we wake up to that as a country, 314 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: the better it'll be. 315 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: Gary. 316 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like we're going to be waking up to 317 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: it anytime soon. This could have been an election that 318 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: was fought on energy policy. Could have been a referendum 319 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: on energy about whether most Australians value reliability and low 320 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: cost or whether their priority is emission cuts, and that 321 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: would have been a real debate, and we didn't have it, Gary, No, 322 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: we didn't. 323 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Add of course, the first week, every first week of 324 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: every federal election for the last forty years has been 325 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: about save Medicare. And then you move on to the 326 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: real issues, because no one's getting rid of medicare, so 327 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll just say that. But look, the Prime Minister could 328 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: have gone down the path of saying, I'm going to 329 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: give you two hundred and seventy five dollars off your 330 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: power bill. Oh wait on, he tried that. He lied, 331 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: We're going to and by the way, that should be 332 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: every power bill. I get one every quarter. So that 333 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: was four by two hundred and seventy five dollars. Basically 334 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred dollars is what I was expecting off my 335 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: power But this race to renewables is a race to ruin, 336 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: and that is the end of the story. Net zero 337 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: is a nonsense. We're going to have net zero productivity, 338 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: net zero chance of defending ourselves to the outside world, 339 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: because net zero chance of making anything in Australia. And 340 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: in the end, what has happened in Spain and Portugal 341 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: this week will happen on the East coast of Australia 342 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: incoming years. It just will because as more and more 343 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: renewables go into the grid, and the only reason they're 344 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: called renewable is they've got to be renewed every ten 345 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: years because the whole thing falls over. The wind turbines, 346 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: the solar panels, the batteries, everything falls over. They're renewables 347 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: because you've got to buy them again. That's why there's 348 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: the big raw. The people making money out of it, 349 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: they're not deluded. They know that they're going to follow 350 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the idiocy of people like Chris Bowen and Anthony alban 351 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: Easy all the way to their bank. 352 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: Yes, there's some very rich people getting even richer off renewables. 353 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: Before you go, gentlemen, I just want to talk a 354 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: little bit about US politics. We've had promises made, promises kept. 355 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: Just nine illegal immigrants were released into the US during 356 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: President Trump's first one hundred days in offers, which this week. 357 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: That represents a ninety nine point nine nine percent decrease 358 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: in what's called get got aways. These got aways are 359 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: unlawful entrants who are not turned back, who are released 360 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: into the country. 361 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 4: Now. 362 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: To contrast that to the same period last year under 363 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, there were one hundred and eighty four thousand 364 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: got aways. Nick Resolving the illegal immigration crisis would have 365 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: to be among Donald Trump's top achievements, and I don't 366 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: think anyone expected him to get it done. So quickly 367 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: and so effectively. 368 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: No, because they never do, because the lovies will tell 369 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: you this isn't possible. You know, you can't possibly do this, 370 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: just as they told the Tony Abbott that before the 371 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen election, Oh, you can't turn back boats, it's impossible. 372 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: Well Tony abbittt did so and got the same result 373 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: as Donald Trump, an immediate reduction to almost nothing of 374 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. As we know, the people smug as who 375 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: bring these people over watch the news very carefully. They 376 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: would have known that they're in trouble with with Donald Trump, 377 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: and and they've stopped sending people that way. They'll find 378 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: another route no out, possibly via Canada perhaps, but you 379 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: know they're not they're not going to use that border 380 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: with with the with Trump in power, in the in 381 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: the in the with the firm mindset he has on 382 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: this issue. 383 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure. Thanks for your time. Tonight, 384 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: still to come. 385 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: Left is losing it Plus Donald Trump sits down for 386 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: a combative interview with ABC Bationga Sargon. 387 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: As the details. 388 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: You're watching the reader Pany show and it's time for 389 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: lefties losing it. And this is genuinely amusing listen here 390 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: as the worst vice presidential candidate ever. Tampon Tim Tim Walls, 391 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: you remember him, the man famous for putting tampons in 392 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: boys bathroom across his state. Well, he's revealed that he 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: was selected by Kamala Harris because he could co talk 394 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: to white dudes. Really, white dudes watching football and fixing 395 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: their trucks were going to vote for this. 396 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 8: I also was on the ticket quite honestly, you know, 397 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 8: because I could code talk to white guys watching football 398 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 8: fixing their truck doing that that I could put them 399 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 8: at ease. I was the permission structure to say, look, 400 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 8: you can do this and vote for this. 401 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: This guy is the Democrats idea of masculinity. 402 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: Yes, this dude Faulter. 403 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a picture of strength and masculinity. 404 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 4: Just look at how well he loads a gun. 405 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: That and it never fits quite right. 406 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 8: It's not give them that. 407 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 4: Now, let's check in with the. 408 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Latest thing to be listed as inherently racist. You'll recall 409 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: that everything from the countryside to working out has been 410 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: labeled a sign of white supremacy. And now you can 411 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: add to that list punctuality. 412 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: Yes, being on time is white supremacy. 413 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Being on time as white supremacy, because what are they 414 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: always on time to do? 415 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: Oh press, I'm always going to be. 416 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: Ten to fifteen minutes late, because that's the correct time, 417 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: according to my people. Now to the corrupt corporate media. 418 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump sat down for an interview with ABC's 419 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: Terry Moran to discuss the first hundred days of his 420 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: second term. Now, for the record, Terry Moran, you may 421 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: never have heard of him, is a classic lefty losing it, 422 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: and he went about proving that straightway. He seems to 423 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: think the billions in waste and food uncovered by the 424 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: Department of Government Efficiency will result in no investigations or 425 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: criminal referrals. 426 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: Listen to how he frames this question. 427 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 9: We found a lot of fraud. 428 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 6: There was a lot of fraud. Fraudulent things were taking place, 429 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 6: and we ended that and those people are going to 430 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: be suffering. 431 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: Me just a legal note, fraud is a crime. There 432 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: have been no referrals to the Justice Department anyway. 433 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 5: You don't know that, do you? 434 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 6: How do you know that. 435 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: Have there been referrals to that? 436 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 9: How would you know that that there were no referrals? 437 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: I think they generally are right. There's been no investigation 438 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: from the highest department. I'm asking you, sir. 439 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: You're not asking me. 440 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 9: You made a statement. 441 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: You know. 442 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 4: Now I'm asking you. 443 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 6: There was a statement that you made. 444 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 5: I'm asking you. 445 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 6: Have there been Yes, they have. 446 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump wasn't putting up with that sort of nonsense. 447 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: This was his response when asked whether he trusted ladding 448 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: me a persian. 449 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: Do you trust me? I think? Do you trust him? 450 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 6: I don't trust you. I don't trust I don't trust 451 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 6: a lot of people. I don't trust you. 452 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: Look at you. You come in all shooting for bear. 453 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: You're so happy to do the interview I am. 454 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 9: Then you start hitting me with fake questions. 455 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: He started telling me. 456 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 6: That a guy whose hand is covered the tattoo doesn't 457 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: have the tattoo. 458 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: You know, I mean, you're being honest. No, I'm not Laonoea. 459 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: And you might be wondering why President Trump selected. 460 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: This particular ABC clown for an interview. Well, the President 461 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: addressed that question. 462 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 6: It was photosho. 463 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: Terry you ahead of that. 464 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 6: Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime. 465 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 9: You know you're doing the interview. 466 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 6: I picked you because. 467 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: Frankly, I never heard of you. But that's okay. 468 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: I picked you Terry. 469 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: He really is wonderfully droll, and it did not miss 470 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: the opportunity to remind the ABC and other media that 471 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: they were complicit in the cover up about Joe Biden's 472 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: obvious cognitive decline. 473 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 6: We were left at all over the world. We had 474 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs, 475 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 6: couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across 476 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: the stage without falling. We had a president that was 477 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 6: grossly incompetent. 478 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 9: You knew it, I knew it, and everybody knew it, 479 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 9: but you guys didn't want to write it because you're 480 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 9: fake news. 481 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 8: All right, thank you. 482 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: By the way, ABC is one of the worst, I 483 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: have to be honest. 484 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, and God forget it was only a 485 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: few months ago the ABC gave President Trump an enormous 486 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: payout to settle a defamation case they never learn. Joining 487 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: me now is journalist and author Batiya Ungasagon Batilla. I 488 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: have to say I did find that ABC interview enormously entertaining. 489 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: What was your take and did we learn anything new? 490 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: I think it's really interesting. The president, I think, sees 491 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: his agenda as a very unifying one, which it is 492 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 5: he was elected with a mandate to bring back the 493 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 5: glory of American life, American prosperity, the American working class, 494 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 5: the dignity of working class Americans. And I think that 495 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: he still wants that recognition from a mainstream liberal media 496 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 5: that is utterly committed to representing him in the worst 497 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: possible light. And you can see that he just is 498 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: so confus used because he knows that what he's doing 499 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 5: is what he was elected to do, and yet he 500 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 5: still experiences this constant contempt from the mainstream media. So 501 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 5: it was very interesting to see them playing off each 502 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 5: other in those designated roles, despite the fact that the 503 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 5: country itself is so different. 504 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 3: It is, but when he selects these leftists to conduct 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: the interview, he knows their form. They're not newcomers. Does 506 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: he really expect anything different or does he actually want 507 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: to have that five does he want to take them on. 508 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 5: It's very interesting because he recently met with a number 509 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 5: of different journalists. There were three that he met with 510 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 5: from the Atlantic, and then he sat down with the 511 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: comedian and sort of political commentator Bill Maher, and in 512 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: both of those cases, Bill Maher of course, has criticized 513 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 5: him very vociferously, but also the journalists from the Atlantic, 514 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 5: everybody who he met with in those contexts talked about 515 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: how char is and how when they met with him 516 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: one on one, they were able to have really interesting conversations, 517 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 5: and that he does come off in this very charming 518 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 5: way even when he is speaking to people who have 519 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: criticized him. I do think that he has this feeling 520 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: of things are so different now. He won the popular vote, 521 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: He won every swing state, every state in America moved 522 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 5: to the right, you know, in appreciation for what he's promising. 523 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: So I think he is very sort of confused and 524 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 5: steiny by the idea that they're still running that twenty 525 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 5: sixteen playbook again, still calling him hitler, still calling him 526 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: a threat to democracy, when it's clear that the country 527 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: is behind him. 528 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: Well, you're not imagining it. 529 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: Just about every news report on Donald Trump and his 530 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 3: administration is negative. It is twenty sixteen all over again. 531 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: Analysis by the Media Research Center found that so far 532 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: this year, Trump's administration has faced ninety two percent negative 533 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: coverage from ABC, CBS, and NBC. 534 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: That's three networks. 535 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: But the leftist media is pretty much in unison in 536 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 3: being anti Trump. Fairly consistently, Bertia, Is it having an 537 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: impact with the public, Because of course Trump voters have 538 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: a great distrust of the media, they're probably ignoring this coverage. 539 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 3: But those swinging voters surely it has an impact with them. 540 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: We just stopped for a minute and talk about how 541 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: utterly absurd it is that a man who won the 542 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 5: popular vote is covered negatively ninety two percent of the time, 543 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: and Rita, it just points out the truth here, which 544 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: is that it is not just the president that the 545 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: elites in the media heat. It is the American people 546 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 5: and the American people who want what he is offering. 547 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: That contempt is not just for him, but for all 548 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: of the millions of Americans who he represents. It's totally 549 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: totally absurd. I do think it is impacting independence. His 550 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: polls are not great right now, and of course he 551 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 5: started out very unpopular. He's a polarizing figure. We have 552 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: an enormous class divide, so you know, the election really 553 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: was decided based on whether you have a college degree 554 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 5: or not. A lot of Americans with a college degree 555 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 5: have this very unhealthy obsession with him and hatred of him. 556 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: So that could be up to twenty five percent of 557 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: Americans right there, and then you have Independence, who I 558 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: think are very upset about the volatility in the market. 559 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: But of course we have to go through this period. 560 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 5: We have to decouple from China. It is absurd how 561 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 5: China has been eating our lunch, buying up our debt. 562 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: We've basically, you know, mortgaged our children's future out to 563 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 5: China in exchange for cheap crap. It was always going 564 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 5: to be a period of adjustment when you you had 565 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: somebody who had the courage to actually make that happen. 566 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: And of course President Trump is the only person who 567 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: was willing to do that. 568 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: But Tia, just on the tariffs, do you think Donald 569 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: Trump can withstand the pressure? Can he hold the line 570 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: against China? Because he's facing enormous criticism. What is looking 571 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: to do is going to be a Maydian long term 572 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: plan and in the short term there's going to be 573 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: a great deal of pain. 574 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely. You know, Trump was almost killed twice last year. 575 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 5: He's a man who feels that he based his maker 576 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: and he's on a mission and he doesn't care what 577 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: Wall Street has to say. I mean, he's so clear 578 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: that he doesn't work for them, and he's not answerable 579 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 5: to them. He works for the American people, and he's 580 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 5: answerable to the American people. They have a few trade 581 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: deals that are on the table that are being finalized 582 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 5: that they keep saying are going to come out very soon, 583 00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: and I believe them. India, South Korea, Vietnam have been floated. 584 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: We've already seen India and Vietnam imposed tariffs on Chinese steel, 585 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: which is an enormous, enormous win. But of course the 586 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 5: elites don't want to admit any of this because tariffs 587 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 5: are class warfare on them, you know, on behalf of 588 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 5: the working class. So you know, if Wall Street was 589 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: not livid, I would be worried that we were not 590 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: doing the right thing. 591 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: Here. 592 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: We've been talking about media lies, and who can forget 593 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: the media's complicity in painting the violent BLM protests is 594 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: mostly peaceful remember that image from CNN. People think it's 595 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: ai these days, mostly peaceful protests as towns burned down. Well, 596 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: the activists of the FBI who took a knee in 597 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: solidarity with BLM and Neo Marxist anti American, anti police movement, 598 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: they've been reassigned. CNN reports these reassignments are viewed as 599 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: demotions by many inside the FIBI, and come nearly five 600 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: years after the episode that ignited a great deal of 601 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: controversy inside the bureau. But Tilla, I've got to say, 602 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: I would have preferred sackings. 603 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: But I think this is a good start. 604 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: These actions by activists within the FBI, within the Justice 605 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: Justice Department that have caused enormous damage that really undermined 606 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: the public's trust in these institutions. 607 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: I think that's a really good point. 608 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: You know. 609 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: I remember at the time, actions like that were seen 610 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: as unifying because you had all these protesters out there 611 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: burning down these cities, and then you would have you know, 612 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 5: members of law enforcement basically like trying to signal, look, 613 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: we're all, you know, one country. We're all like on 614 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: the same side of this. We all want better policing, 615 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: we all want fair policing. But I think you're totally 616 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: right that what we know now about Black Lives Matter, 617 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: which we didn't at the time, that it is such 618 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 5: a you know, decrepit a moral institution does not represent 619 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 5: black people or a unification of this country around you know, 620 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 5: the values that doctor King espoused, but rather a real 621 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: radical nature that does cast many Americans, including many police officers, 622 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 5: as racist in a very damaging way. So it's really 623 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: nice to see institutions taking stock of where we're at 624 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 5: in a place like the FBI saying, look, we're going 625 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 5: to stand for a very different kind of relationship between 626 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 5: us and the public, and we're not going to give 627 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: them any excuses to see us as on one side 628 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: or the other. 629 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: Look, I'd challenged the notion that we didn't know what 630 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: Blen was back then. I think we knew that they 631 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: were open about what they stood for. They were open 632 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: about their Marxist ideals, the fact that the three founders 633 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: identified as Marxists, that they were anti the Nuclear Family. 634 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: This was all on their vicial website. They scrubbed some 635 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: of that in later years, and yet we had, I think, 636 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 3: to me, it's as a grosser betrayal of the American 637 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: people as the media's complicity in covering up Joe Biden's 638 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: cognitive decline. The fact that the media went along with 639 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: this group, with these protests, with this mass destruction and 640 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: mayhem across America, as if it were some progressive movement 641 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: rather than a really quite a destructive anti American movement 642 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: that wasn't really interested in black lives for heire. 643 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're definitely right about that. I was one of 644 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 5: the people who was calling it a racial moral panic 645 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: at the time, and was quite nearly canceled for it, 646 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 5: almost you know, lost my job. And it was a 647 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 5: very intense time because there was that feeling that the 648 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 5: media was completely on the side of the activists. And 649 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 5: I actually wrote a whole book about this called bad News, 650 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 5: How walk Media is Undermining Democracy, about how how basically 651 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 5: the racial moral panic, all of this kind of far 652 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 5: left woke ideology was a smoke screen for the ways 653 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: in which the elites in the media and in politics 654 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 5: and in tech and everything had become very wealthy at 655 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: the expense of the working class. And so that wokeness 656 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 5: and what Trump is doing with the tariffs and with immigration, 657 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: it's all one and the same. He's fighting for the 658 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 5: dignity of working class Americans, which was sold out by 659 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: the Democrats who pretended that they were still representing the 660 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 5: working class while actually themselves getting rich off of the 661 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 5: backs of working class Americans, and then of course instituting 662 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 5: these very unsafe ideology around defund the police and so forth, 663 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: which poor and working class people and people of color 664 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: were the most negatively impacted by. 665 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: Well. 666 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: One of the biggest stories in the US the last 667 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 3: week or two has been this so called Maryland Man, 668 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: Maryland Dad, and the way the Democrats have gone into 669 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: bat for this illegal immigrant who was deported to El 670 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 3: Salvador and is a gang banger. Two courts have found 671 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: him to be a member of MS thirteen or Fox 672 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: News has obtained a second protective order that was filed 673 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: against this man Garcia by his wife back in twenty twenty, 674 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: which she accuses him of not just physical abuse and 675 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: threatening her, but she also said that she has a 676 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: recording there where he says he can kill her and nobody. 677 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: Can do anything to him. 678 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: I am in shopatya that the Democrats are going to 679 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: war for this man. I mean, what a stupid hill 680 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 3: to die on. 681 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: It's really amazing that they're out here with their whole 682 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 5: like you know, jesuite Kilmar. You know, like if they 683 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: can come for the wife beating, gang bang or human trafficker, 684 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 5: surely you are next in line. I mean, it's totally amazing. 685 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 5: They just love to white knight for criminals, and you know, 686 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 5: I think some of it. They didn't know when they 687 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 5: started white nighting for him, but you know, the idea 688 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: that this is a person who's worth you know, doing 689 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 5: anything for that. There was a US senator who flew 690 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: there to shook his hand, the hand that hit his 691 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 5: wife while she was holding to her child. It's so 692 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 5: so amazing. And all of the immigration hysteria right now, 693 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 5: of the babies that were deported, or you know, the 694 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 5: people who only criticized Israel who are having their green 695 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 5: cards revoked. You know, it's all just hoaxes all the 696 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 5: way down. And the reason for that is because the 697 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 5: Democrats have nothing. Trump has outflanked them to the left 698 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 5: on the economy, and he has outflanked them to the 699 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 5: left on being anti war. And he's not even a 700 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 5: social conservative, he's a moderate. So he basically stole the 701 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 5: democrats pro working class agenda from under them, and they 702 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 5: have nothing left to fight him with. All they have 703 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 5: is what they're doing, which is let's go rescue the 704 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 5: gang mangers, let's stand for China and oppose tariffs right 705 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 5: and like let's try to get that border open again. 706 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 5: It's so appalling. 707 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 4: Bati Unga Sagon, thank you so much for your time tonight. 708 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having. 709 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: Me still to come, President Trump. Mox pop star Taylor 710 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 4: Swift again. 711 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 3: Kinsey Scofield is up next, Welcome back, Joining me now 712 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey lawyer Amal Clooney, 713 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: the wife of George Clooney, could be banned from future 714 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: visits to the US due to involvement in the International 715 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: Criminal Court and it's vendetta against Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli 716 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: Prime Minister. 717 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: Is this a serious report? 718 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: Where are these reports coming from? 719 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I think so. It's per the Financial Times, 720 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 7: they say the UK Foreign Office reportedly recently warned lawyers 721 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 7: including A Mall Clooney, specifically giving legal advice to the 722 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 7: International Criminal Court, that they could face sanctions due to 723 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 7: that February executive order from President Trump that said the 724 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 7: United States will impose tangible and significant consequences on those 725 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 7: responsible for the ICC's transgressions. Now they have homes in Italy, 726 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 7: they have homes everywhere, so it's not like if she 727 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 7: gets kicked out of the United States, she doesn't have 728 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 7: somewhere else to go. But this does hinder Clooney's Broadway debut. 729 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: Well, I just have trouble believing these reports. I'll wait 730 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: and see, but I can't can't see her in handcuffs 731 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 3: being led away and deported from the US just yet. 732 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: Now we covered this left he is losing it. Earlier 733 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 3: in the way, when the Philadelphia Eagles were at the 734 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: White House celebrating their Super Bowl win and President Donald 735 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: Trump did not miss the chance to mock Tyler Swift. 736 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 9: It was an incredible game, a little surprising, but right 737 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 9: from the beginning, in the first quarter of the Big Game, 738 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 9: which I was there, I watched in person. I was 739 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 9: there along with Taylor Swift. How did that work out? 740 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,959 Speaker 9: How did that one work out? 741 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 4: Kinsey? 742 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: Was he referring to the fact that she was booed 743 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl and he got cheers. 744 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 7: He was the hero that day, and Taylor's team lost 745 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 7: as well. I don't know if Trump will ever forgive 746 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 7: Taylor for endorsing multiple political opponents, but I do know 747 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 7: that I never want to be on his bad side. 748 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 7: I think the good news for Taylor is his insults 749 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 7: are typically lighthearted and pretty hilarious. I'd rather be dodging 750 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 7: shots from Trump than Kanye if I were in her position. 751 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 4: It gave me a lo it was. I thought it 752 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 4: was very amusing. 753 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: Indeed the players had to laugh as well. And you 754 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: know what, I remember when he said I hate Taylor 755 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 3: Swift or something to that effect during the election campaign, 756 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 3: and all these political pundits are like the elections over, 757 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: he's just upset billions of swifties. And you know, they 758 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: thought that was a serious moment in the election campaign. 759 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: Of course it wasn't, and we discussed that at the time. Now, 760 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey, Taylor's boyfriend. He's unfollowed Ryan Reynolds, who's married 761 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 3: to Taylor's bestie. If you can follow all that, He's 762 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 3: unfollowed him on Instagram. And there seems to be a 763 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 3: feud of sorts happening between these two. Taylor Swift and 764 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 3: Blake Lively are apparently fallen out, not BFFs as they were, 765 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 3: and their partners. 766 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 7: Also, Oh well, there's something more sinister being shared around 767 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 7: the internett. I know you're shocked. You and I both 768 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 7: witness the relentless Taylor and Travis sightings of twenty twenty 769 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 7: three and twenty twenty four, which led to one of 770 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 7: Travis's worst years professionally. Some are actually speculating that this story, 771 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 7: combined with the fact that we aren't seeing Travis and 772 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 7: Taylor together anymore, could mean that they've secretly split. 773 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 4: Split Kinsey is surely not. 774 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we are planning weddings, children, This is a 775 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: surely you're not going to have another split. And if 776 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: there is a split, I think we need to have 777 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: a best selling album accompanying the news. 778 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, we are ready for that record, but no official word. 779 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 7: I mean, I just can't believe that we haven't seen 780 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 7: them very much in twenty twenty five compared to what 781 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 7: we saw in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. 782 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 7: It was oversaturation, it was overwhelming, and now you never 783 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 7: see them together. And Travis is constantly playing with the boys. 784 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: And I think he knows it hasn't been fantastic for 785 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: his game. Could be a coincidence that he had a 786 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 3: poor season, but I think that is a big part 787 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 3: of this. He wants to focus on football rather than 788 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: being swifties plus one. 789 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about this. 790 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson interview with Meghan Kelly. He said that Michelle 791 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 3: Obama hates her husband Barack and that it's people like 792 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 3: her who are miserable in their personal lives that are 793 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: a big part of what's wrong with modern society. Kinsey, 794 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 3: I listened to that interview. It was a fascinating discussion 795 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 3: between Tucker and Meghan Kelly. 796 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 4: What do you make of it? 797 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: And has there been much fallout from those claims from 798 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson. 799 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I just watched Michelle do a Diary of 800 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 7: a CEO or another podcast where she seems so dismissive 801 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 7: of her husband. Tucker says, there's nothing more destabilizing than 802 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 7: an unhappy marriage, and that's why he believes Michelle's life 803 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 7: exemplifies why it's so important to folks. 804 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 4: On your marriage. 805 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 7: And he said it's not just her, It's become kind 806 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 7: of a cultural thing, a whole class of people who 807 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 7: are afflicted with the same restlessness and rage and emptiness, 808 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 7: and that they're the ones that are racking our society. 809 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 7: And I do think that it's important that you know, 810 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 7: if you are married, you focus on continuing to keep. 811 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 4: The love alive. 812 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know what what he said, isn't that dramatic 813 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 3: if you've listened to what she has said. 814 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned that latest. 815 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: Podcast, but even on her own podcast, She's talked about 816 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: having unhappy periods in your marriage up to a decade, 817 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 3: which took a lot of people by surprise, and just 818 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 3: about everything she says about her marriage about Baraque himself 819 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: is negative. So I think she should be shocked that 820 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: people are perceiving that there's issues in that marriage. Now, 821 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: let's go to Megan and Harry. There will never be 822 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: issues in that little union. Inside as a Netflix saying 823 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 3: that Meghan makel is being completely ignored by the executives there, 824 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 3: what's going on? 825 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 7: Okay? So, since Meghan's show flopped, bosses at Netflix have 826 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 7: been quiet about their ongoing partnership. Remember Meghan called it 827 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 7: a partnership. But despite being one of Netflix's most talked 828 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 7: about employees, Meghan Markle's loose fruit spread didn't make the 829 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 7: cut for the streamer's official restaurant in Vegas. It's called 830 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 7: Netflix Bites, and it serves food inspired by some of 831 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 7: their biggest shows, you know, like Bridgeton themed items, Regency 832 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 7: Tee designed by Lady whistle doown herself. You've got fake royals, 833 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 7: you literally work with a real one who's shilling jam? 834 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 7: Why is that not on your menu? And apparently it's 835 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 7: just that Netflix is exhausted with this woman and they're 836 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 7: over it. 837 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: Well, they've paid a lot of money for very little 838 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: in return. Has been a very poor decision indeed by 839 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 3: Netflix to invest so heavily in this couple and on 840 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 3: Harry and Meghan are Royal Insider has told Page six 841 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 3: that Meghan hates the royal family, she doesn't like the 842 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 3: UK and yet she continues to talk about her royal 843 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 3: titles and use them for personal gain. The Sussexes agreed 844 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 3: not to use those titles as part of their negotiations 845 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: with the late Queen when they were leaving the family, 846 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 3: leaving being working royals. Are they flouting that agreement that 847 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: they struck with the Queen? 848 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 7: They absolutely are. I mean, in the last few weeks, 849 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 7: I think you and I have discussed her posting the 850 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 7: Yuke with the message from Ukraine where they address her 851 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 7: as hr each. Now we're seeing her sending gift baskets 852 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 7: with her chrch title. You know they're in this article. 853 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 7: It's actually hilarious because they lest off the other things 854 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 7: you're allowed to call her if you're in her presence, 855 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 7: EACHR each Princess Meghan, Duchess, Meghan and the Duchess of 856 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 7: Sussex are her preferred titles. But you know what, when 857 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 7: you have a reputation built on sand, you got to 858 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 7: milk the royal family for all you got. 859 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 3: Kinsiscophiel, thank you for your time tonight, and that's all 860 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 3: the time we have. I'll see you tomorrow night at 861 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 3: nine pm four Lifties, Losing It News Night is up 862 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 3: next