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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome to another episode of Fox Crickets

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Speaker 1: podcast The follow On. My name is Courtney Walsh, a

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Speaker 1: journalist with Fox Sports Australia, and I'm pleased to be join,

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Speaker 1: in fact, delighted to be joined today by Michael Vaughan,

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Speaker 1: Fox Cricket Expert, former English captain. He played eighty two

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Speaker 1: Tests and eighty six eighty I's for England eighteenth centuries.

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Speaker 1: Is a Test batsman and I think speaking to us

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Speaker 1: in Sydney today.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Michael?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all right, thank you.

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Speaker 4: On the way to Adelaide for the Test match tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: so looking forward to the second Test.

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Speaker 1: Very busy man so far, but it was an extended

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Speaker 1: break between tests between the first Test in Perth and

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Speaker 1: the second second Test starting on Friday.

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Speaker 2: What have you been up to?

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Speaker 1: What does the commentator do in their off time between tests?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I watched a bit of England versus New Zealand, so

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Speaker 4: that was nice. In between the games, played a lot

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Speaker 4: of paddle Tan, played a bit of golf. Brendon Julian.

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Speaker 4: He's been spraying the ball everywhere but managed to get

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Speaker 4: it right yesterday hit him quite straight, so we got

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Speaker 4: our first victory as a partnership, but I stay down

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Speaker 4: in the coops cougie.

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Speaker 3: I know you call it culjie, but it's cougie in

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Speaker 3: my eyes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, train every morning, try and stay healthy every now

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Speaker 4: and again. Out of the old Sherbert, but yeah, just

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Speaker 4: trying to switch off. Once this second test starts in Adelaide,

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Speaker 4: it pretty much goes back to back for the remaining

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Speaker 4: four games. So to have a few days away from

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Speaker 4: commentary and just chilling, it's it's been quite nice.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, you see on social media

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Speaker 1: before the PIF test the photos of you and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the crew wandering along the Swan River, which

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Speaker 1: is a magnificent river early morning. I supposed to wake

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Speaker 1: up call. But do you jump into the ocean in

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Speaker 1: a kuji? You or cugie? Do you? What do you

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Speaker 1: do to rehab underneath?

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 4: I have been in the water, but I go to

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Speaker 4: a place called one training in bath house, so by

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Speaker 4: training there and I go in their ice bats and

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Speaker 4: in Fred's saunas. So getting a little bit older, so

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Speaker 4: I've good little cafter the body. I actually went to

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister's house last night with Adam Gil christ.

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Speaker 4: He took me to an event there which was nice

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Speaker 4: on the water. He's got a nice paddam a bit

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Speaker 4: it was cure about his security. It's not quite Number

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Speaker 4: ten and the security that our Prime minister has. But

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Speaker 4: it was great to be at the Prime Minister's house. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but it's it's always nice to be down in Sydney,

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Speaker 4: Sydney around Could you all the way to Bondi walking

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Speaker 4: through Bronze it's one of the most famous walks that

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Speaker 4: you can ever do, the Culdie to Bondy and backwalk.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a trek and it's a bit

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Speaker 4: of a sweat on, particularly for a brit like me,

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Speaker 4: but it's always great to do.

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Speaker 1: Did you manage to Slidge Anthony Albanie see the Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister Directura Billy Hays? Did you just give him a

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Speaker 1: reminder of bed Australia getting beaten whilst England won the

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Speaker 1: opening tiss in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was Yeah, I wouldn't say he was concerned

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Speaker 4: by the os Is and he just feels that obviously

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Speaker 4: the Adelaide Test Match is going to be a big

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Speaker 4: week for them, and you know you're not a cricket

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Speaker 4: kind of person. If you don't realize that England are

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Speaker 4: onto something. They're playing some decent cricket, particularly against the

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Speaker 4: Cooker were a ball. You look at their record in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, it's very strong and obviously next year with

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Speaker 4: the Cooker were a ball, I think they've got a

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Speaker 4: If you can get a picture of two that spins square,

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Speaker 4: that's probably the best chance of really putting them under pressure.

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Speaker 4: Nathan Lyons the standout in terms of the spinners in

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Speaker 4: both teams. But yeah, England are a good scene towards

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Speaker 4: the Good Fund the lad Weeks where it all goes

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Speaker 4: a bit a bit a well because it's the star

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Speaker 4: that they play, but they're worth watching.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, does it make a happy

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Speaker 1: extinguishment alive when Australia gets speeding in the minute they

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Speaker 1: live in India and in England having been under pressure in

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Speaker 1: that first innings, I think in four for seventy one

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Speaker 1: or so sorry it lost merely wicked. Some ned first

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Speaker 1: blood some young talent. Very impressive performance overall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was in.

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Speaker 4: Harry Brook's a wonderful player in New Zealand are usually

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Speaker 4: a safe pair of hands in the field, but they

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Speaker 4: dropped lots of chances. England threw in Jacob bethel In

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Speaker 4: at number three gets to fifty in the second innings,

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Speaker 4: Olive Pope dash nicely at number six and then Bradon

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Speaker 4: Cars gets ten in the match, so that they're unearthing

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Speaker 4: players that are doing well pretty much straight at the

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Speaker 4: start of their Test careers, which tells you that the

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Speaker 4: culture around the team's very very good.

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Speaker 3: England are a very very dangerous team.

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Speaker 4: They're very hard to play against because they play high

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Speaker 4: risk cricket, highly intense cricket. Pick with the bat in

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Speaker 4: hand and you know they pretty much work out that

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Speaker 4: they don't look to baut one hundred and twenty hundred

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Speaker 4: way of getting them out quite quite quickly to notify

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Speaker 4: the scores being big. But if I was Australia, I'll

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Speaker 4: be just focusing purely on this week. I think it's

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Speaker 4: a big week in Adelaide. They know that they're going

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Speaker 4: to have to respond, They're gonna have to play that

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Speaker 4: cricket and I think the call at the toss is

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Speaker 4: going to be quite important because bat in first is

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Speaker 4: going to be crucial for both teams.

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Speaker 1: We'll focus on the Australi Union Tists series Fersting.

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Speaker 2: We might come back to England New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: But you talk about that that toss. Australis one seven tists,

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Speaker 1: seven people tists so far. But we were also so

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Speaker 1: ase it's always the first time. Are you concerned that

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Speaker 1: depend on the toss? Do you really think that can

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Speaker 4: I think that to played a big part in Perth,

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Speaker 4: you know, I just thought that that pitch.

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Speaker 3: It did it slowly on day one and then got

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Speaker 4: And then obviously Umber produces a spell of bowling which

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Speaker 4: Back on days two, Australia are a little bit flat,

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Speaker 4: and obviously Sweeja as well is a wonderful player, and

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Speaker 3: I just think back in first is such a huge

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Speaker 3: you get bowled out and you're bowling with a pink

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Speaker 3: feel that the toss in the pink ball games is

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Speaker 3: that is always very very important.

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Speaker 4: Australia won seven out of seven, so they'll be confident.

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Speaker 4: But they've won four out of four in Perth up

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Speaker 4: until obviously India beating them. And I just think of

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Speaker 4: recent times, you know whatever, And I don't know why,

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Speaker 4: there seems to be a lot of teams winning overseas.

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Speaker 4: You know, you look at Bangades look like they're coming

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Speaker 4: England winning the first Test down in New Zealand, India

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Speaker 4: winning the first Test here in Australia on the back

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Speaker 4: of being whitewashed at home against the Kiwis. It's for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason, it's quite hard to predict test match cricket,

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Speaker 4: playing that little bit bears. Only a few years ago

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Speaker 4: and no one was winning away from home, and this

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Speaker 4: recent time there seems to be a few games that

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Speaker 4: just that you're win the toss, you win the game.

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Speaker 4: You're still gonna have to play good cricket. But I

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Speaker 4: do think it's a big advantage.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I mean just maybe touched

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Speaker 1: It's because players are more familiar with each other due

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Speaker 1: to things like the IPL or the greater excess on

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Speaker 1: YouTube watching, watching one.

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Speaker 2: Unfold spreader analysis.

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Speaker 1: I think Ellen Border when I heard a chat with

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Speaker 1: him at the Fox Scrigget launch at the Federation Square

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne, was talking about you'd hate to be a

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Speaker 1: betterman these it's because the balls just know every part

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Speaker 1: of what you know.

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Speaker 2: If there's some strengths or some.

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Speaker 1: Errors, you know, he said when he was keptain and

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Speaker 1: he did it more on gut instinct and you would

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Speaker 1: try and figure out a player from memory. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you know, perhaps twenty years ago you had greater access

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Speaker 1: you try and figure out what and operate opposition as

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Speaker 1: batsman might be like more on feel or from memory

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and also you know, the batters know

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Speaker 4: just bit bummer looks like is that the standard? Because

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Speaker 4: pace the skill levels. I very much had information, but

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Speaker 4: I reacted out in the middle because you know, you

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Speaker 3: So you've just got to react as a captain out

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not too sure why teams a

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Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of skillful bowls around.

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Speaker 4: I think we're in an area where there's quite a

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Speaker 4: world and that's given teams opportunities to get twenty wickets.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're not seeing massive scores, you know, we're

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Speaker 4: not seeing four or five hundreds on a regular basis.

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Speaker 4: Three hundred seems to be the Norman testre which I like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think that's a good, good kind of

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Speaker 4: pas score when the team's scoring three, three fifty. The

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Speaker 4: pitch obviously has a little bit of spice in it,

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Speaker 4: and if you play well as a batter, you get

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Speaker 4: a few runs. If you don't, you're going to be

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Speaker 4: on your way back to the shed quite quickly, particularly

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Speaker 4: against some of the quality that's on show with the

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Speaker 3: But I must have meant that the day night games.

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Speaker 4: When it came into fruition a few years ago, I thought, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's great for the game, but I don't think. I'm

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Speaker 4: not too sure Test cricket needs it. You know, we

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Speaker 4: get decent crowds anyway, the Adelaide Oval. Do you need

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Speaker 4: Probably not, I though it's probably better for television with

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Speaker 4: that bombing for about an hour. You know, can you

441
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Speaker 4: play the short well with all the fielders around the

442
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Speaker 4: back with a couple on the bound try and play

443
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Speaker 4: Bretley or Andy Bick or Jason Gilesbie, Glenmorgrath, Steve Wall,

444
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Speaker 4: you know, with a load of fielders chirping in your ear.

445
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Speaker 4: I know it's a different area, different kind of team

446
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 4: and a different way of playing, but you know, you

447
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Speaker 4: can be ultra aggressive without chirk with body language. And

448
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, I was surprised that they didn't go aggressive

449
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Speaker 4: at the young kid from obviously Mumbai, who plays great.

450
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Speaker 4: It's got all the shots, but you know there's one

451
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Speaker 4: area that I looked at was his right shoulder. Every

452
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Speaker 4: time it got into his right shoulder was kind of

453
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Speaker 4: flapping a little bit, and you know it took Marnus

454
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Speaker 4: actually to get the ball in an so our boy

455
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Speaker 4: a few bounces and the bounce of.

456
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Speaker 3: Tatsic can work. You know, it worked against thing.

457
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Speaker 4: And I say to Australia, you know the bowling the

458
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Speaker 4: lords with a bounce of tatic, How many times have

459
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Speaker 4: they reverted to that?

460
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Speaker 3: Since? Not many?

461
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Speaker 4: They tried it old traff where they didn't get it

462
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Speaker 4: right and the ball was flying everywhere in Zach Crawley

463
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Speaker 4: put on a bit of a masterclass. But you know

464
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Speaker 4: they haven't tried it that many times from what I remember.

465
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Speaker 4: And when you've got to play like Yassi Sweet Jay

466
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Speaker 4: Swoll number one, it's a wicket taking option. Number two

467
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Speaker 4: you're going to restrict the scoring rate if you bowled

468
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Speaker 4: it well. And number three of you ask any better

469
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Speaker 4: in the world do they like being pepper for forty

470
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Speaker 4: minutes non stop?

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Speaker 3: There's not many that really like.

472
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Speaker 4: And they might say some play it better and some

473
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Speaker 4: might say it's a bit of a challenge and it's

474
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Speaker 4: quite fun but fun event, and no one likes to

475
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Speaker 4: be peppered.

476
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Speaker 3: For a period of time.

477
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would think we might see a bit

478
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Speaker 4: of that from Australia this week.

479
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Speaker 1: Will it be Manus with the ball in hand or

480
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Speaker 1: more to the point, we've seen him again working exceptionally

481
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Speaker 1: hard in the knits in Adelaide, spending a lot of time.

482
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Speaker 2: He was the last to leave.

483
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Speaker 1: The session on Tuesday night, two days out from the Test.

484
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Speaker 1: It's clearly a very tricky time for a betterman win

485
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Speaker 1: the around of runs.

486
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Speaker 2: What do you do if you what if you.

487
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Speaker 1: Heard what if you sort of distincted from his performance

488
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Speaker 1: all the reports and that he's looking proactive in the

489
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Speaker 1: knits at the moment, but a head of better fight

490
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Speaker 1: through these sort of a periods and and can you

491
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Speaker 1: fight through them?

492
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's not easy.

493
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Speaker 4: I mean he's up against the best in the world

494
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Speaker 4: in bun so it's not going to be easy for him.

495
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Speaker 3: But I think my plays best when he's looking to score.

496
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Speaker 4: And I think that's the you know, the message I'll

497
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Speaker 4: be given to all the other players on both teams

498
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Speaker 4: is you know, you always need to have that mindset

499
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Speaker 4: of looking to score. And the the easiest thing is

500
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Speaker 4: for us to tell him to do that.

501
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Speaker 3: The hardest thing is to actually go out in the

502
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Speaker 3: middle and do that.

503
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Speaker 4: And all I'd have to say to a player that's

504
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Speaker 4: out of forming, and generally when you're out of form,

505
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Speaker 4: when you're taking guard your seafielders, you see three slips

506
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Speaker 4: and the gulley. You'll see a short legg of backward

507
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Speaker 4: point and mid off and mid on. You see them.

508
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Speaker 3: When you're in real good mindset and confident form and

509
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Speaker 3: you're in a positive state of mind, you just see

510
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Speaker 3: the gaps. You'll see that there's an opportunity of extra

511
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Speaker 3: covered a score. You'll see a midwiket open.

512
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Speaker 4: You'll see you know there's no square leg on the boundary,

513
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Speaker 4: so if it's short to be able to take on

514
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Speaker 4: the pool shot. And that's all I'll say to a

515
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Speaker 4: player in particularly someone like Miners, going to see the

516
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Speaker 4: gaps when you take your go and look at the gaps,

517
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Speaker 4: that's where you're going to get your runs. Don't even

518
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Speaker 4: worry about the fielders now, because a great coach at

519
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: mom when I was a kid, he always you to

520
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Speaker 4: say to remember the three slips, and they've got there

521
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Speaker 4: just there to watch your back.

522
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Speaker 3: They're just that they've got the best seat in the

523
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Speaker 3: house to watch you back.

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Speaker 4: And that's all I'll be saying to to all the players,

525
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Speaker 4: is that you know, if you can try and make

526
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Speaker 4: sure you look at the gaps and that's where you're

527
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Speaker 4: going to score your runs, and then you can think

528
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Speaker 4: like that, you'll be in a more positive state of mind.

529
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Speaker 1: Might just drag you back to England New Zealand, but

530
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Speaker 1: more broadly, preps with this an issue overall.

531
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Speaker 2: In Stokes.

532
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Speaker 1: Both New Zealand and England were docked points for slow

533
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Speaker 1: over rates in Perth the first day Sydney Simonovs were bold.

534
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Speaker 1: Now I remember you and in a couple of others

535
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Speaker 1: last year and it was a great chat at the

536
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Speaker 1: a CG talking about time lost to light, sorry time

537
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Speaker 1: time loss to light and preps a little bit of

538
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Speaker 1: spin your own and have fans pay to see as

539
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Speaker 1: much quickly as you can. Has cricket got a slow

540
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Speaker 1: over rate problem? Or was this more too much of

541
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Speaker 1: a with a pin of these too harsh? And and

542
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Speaker 1: why why can't we get three ninety overs in six

543
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Speaker 1: and a half hours of play?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's that many more delays than you know. There's

545
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Speaker 4: reviews for everything these days, so I understand that, but

546
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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's enough intensity to get the

547
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Speaker 4: overs in I personally just make them play the overs.

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Speaker 1: You know.

549
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Speaker 4: I know it'd affect probably terrestrial stations because they've got

550
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Speaker 4: to get off at a certain time. But most of

551
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Speaker 4: the world are on pay per view dedicated sports cricket channels,

552
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Speaker 4: and I'll be saying in the players, by the way,

553
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: you're bowling the overs. So what that would do is

554
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Speaker 4: make sure that the players would know they'd get through

555
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Speaker 4: the overs in the first two session, because they wouldn't

556
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Speaker 4: want to fot the over last session because it goes

557
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Speaker 4: on forever. You know, I think they know that the

558
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Speaker 4: finds don't affect them the World Test Match Championship points. Obviously,

559
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Speaker 4: it's a fact in them more than any other team.

560
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: That's why they're so low down in the championship. But

561
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Speaker 4: the other thing is when I totally and with it.

562
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Speaker 4: The game needs to be played at a quicker rate,

563
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Speaker 4: and players need to get on with it a little

564
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Speaker 4: bit better. And you know, I like celebrations, but when

565
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: you see a celebration for one hundred going off for

566
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: about four or five minutes of that, come on, get

567
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Speaker 4: on with the game, you know. And that's a few

568
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Speaker 4: of our things that have come into the modern game,

569
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Speaker 4: which can kind of be quite easily wiped out. The

570
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Speaker 4: other thing you could do if you're down on your

571
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Speaker 4: overrate after day, when the oppetition get runs, I'll guarantee

572
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Speaker 4: that the over eight would quick enough then. But you

573
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Speaker 4: then look at the overrates and you start looking at

574
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Speaker 4: you know, how much leeway these match referees seem to

575
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Speaker 4: give the players.

576
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Speaker 3: There seems to be a lot of leeway.

577
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Speaker 4: But then I look at the other side of the

578
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Speaker 4: fence and you look at England and New Zealand both

579
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Speaker 4: being penalized for slow over eights in that first Test

580
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: match in christ Church. But the game finished in four

581
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: days and it was a great spectacle and every single

582
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Speaker 4: support that went into that crowd to sell out crowd

583
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Speaker 4: at the we're royally entertained, and you'd say that the

584
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: crowd they were probably not even thinking about the over eight.

585
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Speaker 3: So as much as the game needs.

586
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Speaker 4: To speed up, I do think the modern game of

587
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: Test match cricket is becoming a great spectacle. I don't

588
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: see too many boring draws or really flat wickets. You know,

589
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: there's not many these days where five hundred and fifty

590
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: played five hundred and fifty. You know, the first Test

591
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Speaker 4: in Pakistan, you know, England won by getting eight hundred.

592
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Speaker 4: It was a real road but they ended up winning

593
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Speaker 4: the game. You know, I'm enjoying Test crickey. I think

594
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Speaker 4: it's it's becoming a really good product and we just.

595
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Speaker 3: Got to make sure that the pain.

596
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: But the best way to analyze it's like you pay

597
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Speaker 4: one hundred dollars or whatever it cost to go and

598
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Speaker 4: watch a Test match. Ninety overs is the allotted amount

599
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Speaker 4: of overs that you should be seen for what you've paid.

600
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Speaker 4: And there are times when I guess ten, twelve thirty

601
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Speaker 4: percent of the overs our ball. You know, if you

602
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: got things set back on your ticket price, I'd guarantee

603
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Speaker 4: the administrators be slaying the players to get on with

604
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: the overs.

605
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Speaker 2: And that makes a lot of sense.

606
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Speaker 1: Well, I might just just before we wind up a

607
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: couple of questions and probably a couple of softballs for you, Michael.

608
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: But Brett Lee, you talked about being peppered by him

609
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, coming up to the twenty

610
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Speaker 1: five year anniversary of his debut for Australia in the

611
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Speaker 1: Boxing Day Test against India in.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety nine. Just how quick was he? And what.

613
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Speaker 1: Is he a nicer bloke than what he was with

614
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: the ball, nice bloke with the microphone in hand, and

615
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: what he was with the ball in hand when you

616
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Speaker 1: were facing him.

617
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: Oh, he's one of the great man. Yeah, he's fantastic, great,

618
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: great scene member on Fox. But it was a different

619
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: cap when he got the ball in hand. You know,

620
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: he wanted to hurt you. Hefrilly admits that he wanted

621
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Speaker 4: to hurt batters. And you know what, in the game,

622
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: we've got that, We've got a helmet, plenty of protection.

623
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Speaker 4: You know, if I was a quick bowler, I think

624
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: I'd have a similar mindset to try and put that

625
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: as off, that kind of movement with real aggression body language.

626
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Speaker 3: The one thing Brett did he showed you the ball.

627
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: He had a beautiful action. You know, there's one or

628
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: two bowlers who probably through the air worked quite as

629
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: quick but felt quickly because they had more unorthodox actions,

630
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, showing back to he kind of you lost

631
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: the ball, We show him it's kind of went behind

632
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: his elbow at times he could some flex that elbow

633
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: and he kind of wears the ball. And Mitchell Johnson

634
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: was quite suddenly sometimes lost the ball from around his back,

635
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: which made it very very difficult.

636
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Speaker 4: Dale Stain I found very very difficult to pick up

637
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: as well. But Brett was completely up there with the

638
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: quick start of face. But because he showed you all

639
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: the ball, you felt you had half a chance. But

640
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: when he was swinging it, particularly that cooker were of

641
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: all the opening burse when he was hooping it around

642
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: corners away from right hand as he was a real

643
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: hard proposition to face.

644
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: And we touched on this at the start. But it's

645
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: a passion of mine and I know you've been very involved,

646
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: but you've got paddled basically. You know you heavily invested

647
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: in paddle. Now for those that are not necessarily initiated,

648
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: it's it's very popular sport, particularly through Europe, very big

649
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: in Spain through parts of the Skin and Apre, etcetera.

650
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: A hybrid of squash and tennis would be the best

651
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Speaker 1: way to describe with at Michael and what she attracted

652
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Speaker 1: to it. And you're I suppose you're investing in it

653
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: and both from from a physical perspective, but also I

654
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Speaker 1: suppose you're also involved in spreading the game through.

655
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Speaker 2: The United Kingdom.

656
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's a mixed with many

657
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: many talents and squash many court under Arms. It's the

658
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Speaker 4: most diverse game that I think I've seen across all

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Speaker 4: sports because you know, we we were involved in creating

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Speaker 4: the publical UK a few years ago, and you know

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Speaker 4: that the age gaps that we have played on our

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Speaker 4: courts from five right right through to ninety year old.

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Speaker 3: Boys, girls and women, grandma's, Grandpa's.

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Speaker 4: Such a diverse set of different religions that are come

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Speaker 4: into place. It's absolutely the game to just get foundlies

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Speaker 4: to go. We're going players of four, you know, the family.

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Speaker 4: We all fall out because we all want to win.

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Speaker 4: But it's such a great game just to for one fitness.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to play too many games

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Speaker 4: to get okay. You know, I think tennis is too

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Speaker 4: hard for anyone just to pick up because of the serb,

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Speaker 4: whereas under Armed serves in Padulam. You know, everyone kind

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Speaker 4: of picks it up quite quickly. Yeah, and it's also

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Speaker 4: very social, you know, lots of sitting around having a brew,

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Speaker 4: having the up.

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Speaker 3: Beer music kind of playing as you're playing.

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Speaker 4: And I was thinking, I mean, it's it's getting quite

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Speaker 4: big in Australia. I play in Sydney, Melbourne, Berth with

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Speaker 4: a lot more course I think that are arriving. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned you're in Portugal Spain. Their courts are pretty much

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Speaker 4: on every sh street in the UK. I can't remember

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Speaker 4: what the amount of course we have in the UK

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Speaker 4: at the minute, but it's growing rapidly.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the sport for everyone. All the footballers are

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Speaker 3: obsessed with it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, if you've not tried paddle tennis, I no

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Speaker 4: pickleballs becoming quite popular here in Australia, get yourself down

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Speaker 4: to your local paddle club and give it a go.

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Speaker 1: Just just one because he talks about a can pimted vergie.

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Speaker 1: When you're up against a family. But when you play

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Speaker 1: against some of the Australian guys here, who's the best

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Speaker 1: and who would you like to partner?

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Speaker 4: I mean Tom Morris, the journalist. I've played against Tom

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Speaker 4: and he's just he just tears around the court. He's

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Speaker 4: got no discipline, so he's quite easy to beat. Gilly's

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Speaker 4: very very good, huss Mister Cricket, Yeah, mister Cricket's excellent.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've seen players like Sam Billings is good

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Speaker 4: enough to be a pro. Josh Butler's excellent, Alex Hales

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Speaker 4: is excellent. I think Abdaville is as you would expect,

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Speaker 4: is a complete naturally can play too, very very high standard.

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Speaker 4: It seems to be the go to game for for

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Speaker 4: all cricketers as well around the world. I see them

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Speaker 4: on Instagram wherever they are Saudi, whether it's in Dubai,

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Speaker 4: Abby Dabby, South Africa, New Zealand, wherever they seem to

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Speaker 4: be traveled. At the minute, they're finding paddle of courts,

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Speaker 4: which is which is great. It's a great sport for that.

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Speaker 1: Look, Michael, thank you so much again for joining the

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Speaker 1: follow on the Fox podcast. We had you last year.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you one again this year

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Speaker 1: and look really looking forward to seeing you in Adelaide

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Speaker 1: and hoping it's a great peopball test.

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Speaker 3: Theses have to win.

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Speaker 2: It could be a long summer