1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Sitsy and with her with Kate Ritchie podcast. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Roxy Jasenko wasn't feeling comfortable. Did you read this story yesterday? 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: I saw the photos online, but I didn't click. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 4: No, it's getting me across it made what happened to her? 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 5: Okay, she's talking a zempi right. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: And when she was going through her you know, she 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: had breast cancer and she was going through her treatment there, 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: she put on a lot of weight, fifteen kilograms. 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 5: She wanted to get rid of it quickly. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Everyone was saying to do it properly, to eat right 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: and go to the gym, but she said, I wanted 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: to lose it very quickly. So she tried all that 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: and it wasn't working. I didn't shed the weight. So 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: I thought, I am reading and hearing about a zempiic 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: all the time, so I'm going to try it. I 16 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: went to my doctor. I begged him. He said, Roxy, 17 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: can't have a look in the mirror. He made me 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: walk into his room and looking myself in the mirror. 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 2: I'm not giving you a prescription. You don't need it. 20 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: So I went somewhere else and I got it. God, 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: you would be blown away by the number of people 22 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: who will give you scripts for that stuff. The thing is, though, 23 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the only place that she could get it was at 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: a chemist Denara, so she paid someone two and a 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: half thousand dollars to drive to Naur to go and 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: get some zempie. 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: The only one I could get was a one milligram 29 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: pen of a zempick. So basically, you're supposed to start 30 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: on point two five milligrams and a number of weeks 31 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: or months later you transition onto a higher dose. 32 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: That's four times or three times the quantity. 33 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: So she said, I could only get the one the 34 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: miller sorry, millerleter, I'm milligram. 35 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: Sorry, that's right, that's all I could get. I felt 36 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: like I was a junkie. I thought I needed this 37 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 5: for a quick fix. So she's just gone bang into 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: the system. 39 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: So what are they like, ePIE. 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: It's an induction, it's an injection. 41 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: Well you would do that into your stomach, yeah, if 42 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: you're a diabetic. 43 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 5: She thought, I was desperate. I need to lose this weight. 44 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Supposed to start on point two five, she started on 45 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 2: one milligram. 46 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: What happened? 47 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: Why is she sharing this? 48 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Because you don't need to lose weight, she said, What 49 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: followed was uncontrollable vomiting, NonStop epilepsy type shaking, three days 50 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: in a drug overdose clinic where she was told her 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: organs could have shut down. 52 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Did she lose the fifteen I thought. 53 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I was actually going to die. My God, For the 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: first twelve hours, I was okay. I vomited four times 55 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: that morning, once in a high car when I went 56 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: to work. That's when I made a video. I thought 57 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: it was funny at work. Then it progressively got worse. 58 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: I called an ambulance. The ambulance rocked up at Saint Vincent's, 59 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: though they didn't know how to treat it because it 60 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: was a relatively new drug at the time. The problem 61 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: was because it was such a new drug, they weren't 62 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: equipped so and there was an alert going around that 63 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: there was faker zimpic that had amphetamine in it. 64 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: You're not getting that from the now of pharmacy though on. 65 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: No, you're not. 66 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Her message to those considering trying the pharmaceutical is simple, 67 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: don't what the other option would be. Don't go to 68 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: a doctor stocked, stick to the dosage limit. If they 69 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: don't administer it, don't go to another doctor. Then don't 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: pay someone two and a half thousand dollars to go 71 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: to nour don't buy one milligram pen and inject yourself 72 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: and overdose on a center. 73 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 5: Outside of that, it's a simple message. 74 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: It's absolute maddness. 75 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 6: The two people that I know that are on it 76 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 6: one still now, yeah, one of them in particular. 77 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: It's worked quite well for them. 78 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Have they been sick, No, they haven't been sick. 79 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 6: But I think basically you feel nauseous for the first 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 6: couple of days, maybe when you've injected yourself, and then 81 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 6: there might be a little bit of action out the 82 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: back passage. But that's for like forty eight hours. 83 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: That's two days out of the week. That's a huge 84 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: part of the week. 85 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: But for me, that's if your body is rejecting it 86 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: all you're but you are feeling nauseous like you said, Kate, 87 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: which a lot of people do, or it is coming 88 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: out of the backpack passage. That for me is warning signs. 89 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 90 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 7: Look, I do know that when you start any kind 91 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 7: of medication and you have to take small doses to 92 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 7: start with, your body can sometimes reject it. It can 93 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 7: kind of reject it and it doesn't really lie. It 94 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 7: can make you feel a bit sick, even if the 95 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 7: medication is meant to be working for you. But I 96 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 7: think if you're pushing through and your body still say 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 7: please stop doing yesterday. 98 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: I don't need any more. 99 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 6: The hardest part is what happens when you decide to stop. 100 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: You know, are you just doing it because you're going 101 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 6: on a on a summer break and you want to 102 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: look good in your bathers? What happens after that? You 103 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: just go back to normal and start stacking on the kegs. 104 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: You know. 105 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: The only winner out of this tell us the UNI 106 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: student on air tasker who got two and a half 107 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars to drive to Nara he lost fifteen is 108 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: the only winner out of this whole story. 109 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: Jennifer and penrith O zimp what happened to you? Jin? 110 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 8: Yeah? So my favorite scene, by the way, Thank you 111 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 8: for entertaining every morning when I'm striving. 112 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: Thanks Jo. 113 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 114 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 8: I use the compound chemist because I didn't want to 115 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 8: be taking ozmpex or femic glut hide away from anybody 116 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 8: else who actually needed it. Yeah, diabetics, exactly so. And 117 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 8: I was recommended by my doctor just to lose that 118 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 8: five kilos. Didn't need to lose a lot of weight 119 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 8: started at point two five. Yes, you do get side effects. 120 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 8: You do need to go to the bassroom quite a bit, 121 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 8: but that's also a part of losing the weight and 122 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 8: losing the toxins and stuff out of your system. 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 4: Do you just inject it in your stomach? 124 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? 125 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 5: Right, okay? 126 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: And did you lose the five? 127 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 128 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 7: And what happened after that? Did you so you stopped 129 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 7: the ZMPIC or the medication. Have you kept your weight? 130 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 8: You do keep your You do keep your weight off 131 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 8: unless you're eating like a crazy person, which you end 132 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 8: up eating like a crazy person because you kind of 133 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 8: lose all your taste bloods, well not your taste bloods, 134 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 8: but you just don't get the crazy for food like 135 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 8: you right, like when you know your body tells you 136 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 8: that you're hungry, you're not, actually don't. You don't get 137 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 8: that hungry feeling anymore. 138 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: Okay, but then it comes back with a vengeance. 139 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 8: It's not not a vengeance, but you kind of get 140 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 8: I got a sugar craving. 141 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: Did you did you up the dose? 142 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: Gin? 143 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 5: Did you go from point two five up? Yes? 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 8: Point two five to point five and then it goes 145 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 8: two point seventy five, and then it goes to one. 146 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: See this is the. 147 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 8: Thing you get to go to that. 148 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: It's the same with any drug though, isn't It is 149 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: that the more that you take of it, the more 150 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: the immune community that your body takes, and you're going 151 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: to need more and more to get your desired results. 152 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 8: But I my recommendation and to anybody that's going to 153 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 8: use it, take it easy, like they say, to do 154 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 8: it for a month. If you're still feeling the side effects, 155 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 8: do it for longer than a month at point five yep, 156 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 8: if you're still losing the weight, because and yeah, because 157 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 8: it's just it can mess you around a little bit. 158 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: I think you look great with the five kilos. 159 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: On due to your metabolism. 160 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Though, shut up down, well, can we ask Allie in 161 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Thorn like you had, what happened with yours? 162 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Zmpek ali Oh mate, side effects? I am good morning, 163 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: by the way, I love you morning. I am. I 164 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: only started on the loading dose and I made it 165 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: to the third week. The nausea was overwhelming, seriously overwhelming. 166 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: And but the worst, most mortifying thing was I was 167 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: in town with a girlfriend to see the farewell concert 168 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: of climad because they're never going to tour again. My 169 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: favorite Yes, and I was so I was so sick. 170 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: My girlfriend kept looking at me saying you okay, and 171 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: I kept saying, I don't feel good at all. So 172 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: there I am in the floyer, are the packed safety 173 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: vomiting into a big It is better than the other end, yes, 174 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: but you know it was the side eye of all 175 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the people looking at me. You know that it was 176 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: a good pell. I was look at it. She's drunk? 177 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: Was it worse? 178 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: And then no? And then to add insult to injury, 179 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I was too sick to see the concert. I had 180 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: to go. 181 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know. 182 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: I went home. I picked picked up the injectupin and 183 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: threw it in the bit. I was taking a zim 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: pick because I have type two diabetes. Okay, it wasn't 185 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: to lose weight and I never That is no quality 186 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: of life. 187 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for calling for me. 188 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: And you know what, there's a there's a lot of 189 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: callers like that as well that have said the same thing. 190 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: I just find it quite sad. 191 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 7: That was, you know, even to drop five kilos or 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 7: to go on holidays and drop weight so you look 193 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 7: good in your bikini like, isn't it a bit sad 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 7: that that's even something that we're considering, Like, what does 195 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 7: it say? 196 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm going on a six week course very soon. 197 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 6: Just quick heads up with a new pt that I've 198 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 6: got tomorrow. 199 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: I've got a new cost starting on. 200 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: When you did the mental program, you lasted one day. 201 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: Don't worry about that one d I was injured. It 202 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: was three am. Of the kind of training it's walking basis. 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Sure you need it because you just told me walking 204 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: out in the toilet that you dropped five KOs. 205 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: What are you on a zim pick two? Are you? 206 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Are you going to do a zimbi? 207 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 6: I'm not doing a I'm taking a traditional method of 208 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: eating well and some physical activity and. 209 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: It hasn't worked for you before, but I'm. 210 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: Starting on the twelfth of September and weaper with Kate. 211 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Ritchie is a Nova podcast. 212 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 7: For more great comedy shows like this, head to Nova 213 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 7: podcast dot com. 214 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: Jod are you