WEBVTT - ROUND 16 REVIEW: CIRALDO’S Bulldogs WON'T make finals. Here's the spine that will. 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of Code NRL podcast. I'm Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as NRL Soapbox. I'm joined by Dean Bulldog,

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<v Speaker 1>Richie Mate and Fadema Kadou. We're going to get into tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's episode, it is going to be a spicy one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some crazy results from the weekend. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to analyze where New South Wales are at and discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the commentary around Laurie Daily. And there's also some killer

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<v Speaker 1>matches coming up this week that we need to explore.

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<v Speaker 1>So the big news from the weekend, Bulldog the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>have won against the Panthers, an absolute upset this time.

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<v Speaker 1>When Jaden Campbell's making that conversion, there's no trainer running

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<v Speaker 1>in front of him. They've got some things in their favor.

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<v Speaker 1>They seal the deal with Zane Harrison. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>how to rate their performance and are they finally becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a good site.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and no wishy washy start up. Okay you have

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<v Speaker 2>to sit on the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it was a great performance. No, they haven't become

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<v Speaker 3>a great side. I did more than one win against

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<v Speaker 3>an under strength Panthers side.

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<v Speaker 2>To put a bit of trust in the Gold Coast

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<v Speaker 2>every week. I'm sorry, I'm a long way short of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just now. Good luck to them. It was a great win.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the Panthers were without all their origin stars plus

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<v Speaker 3>Casey McLean. So look, I thought the Panthers looked lost

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<v Speaker 3>at times, quite pedestrian without Nathan there. But in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the Gold Coast, it was a terrific win and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a building block for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a long way.

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<v Speaker 3>To go before there anywhere near being a consistently elite.

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<v Speaker 1>In a rule And do you feel like don't you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the defense is improved dramatically though they had

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<v Speaker 1>some close results.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it it looks like their attitude defense is improved.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I sort of see when I look at

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<v Speaker 3>a game. And Josh Hannah is a very good coach

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to take time. But we've said that

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<v Speaker 3>about everych every coach came back to when they came in.

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<v Speaker 3>God knows when we've had fifty eight rebrands and it's

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<v Speaker 3>the same side. They've been rubbish, let's be honest, And

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<v Speaker 3>it takes time to for a coach to rebuild the

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<v Speaker 3>structure the environment, but it is going North. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt about that, but there's a long way north

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<v Speaker 3>to go. Sorry, they've traveled about Tensify.

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<v Speaker 1>Still thinks you're rubbish. Sorry for Tima. How did you

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<v Speaker 1>see it?

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<v Speaker 4>They looked very good in their retro jerseys. Yeah they yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah and Captain Charger. So yeah, they've got stuff going

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<v Speaker 4>for them in terms of that sort of things. But look,

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<v Speaker 4>they're beginning to look like an improved team. I think

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<v Speaker 4>the emergence of Zaane Harrison has been really important for.

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<v Speaker 5>Them for such a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>For years, like if you go back all the way

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<v Speaker 4>to Ash Taylor, they've sort of had a trouble with

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<v Speaker 4>finding that guy who's going to be there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>long term number seven. At one point it was Ash Taylor,

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<v Speaker 4>it was Tanner Boyd, it was Toby Sexton, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all these guys who had talked about is the next

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<v Speaker 4>big thing but never really came through for them. Zaane Harrison,

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<v Speaker 4>I know he's only twenty and he's only played what

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<v Speaker 4>six seven games now, but he does look like the

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<v Speaker 4>real deal when their spine finally looks at all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen what Keanu Kinney can do, Like he's just

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute, you know, live wire when he's in that mood,

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<v Speaker 4>good young forwards coming through Cooper Bye aramahou So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they've got the building blocks of a really really.

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<v Speaker 5>Good young team.

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<v Speaker 1>So you reckon Zane Harrison's the half they need to

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<v Speaker 1>stick with right now.

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<v Speaker 4>He's showing all the fundamentals of a number seven and

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<v Speaker 4>Jayden Campbell looks like he feels really comfortable in that

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<v Speaker 4>number six role.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, so yeah, yeah, I think Zane Harrison's had incredible

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<v Speaker 1>composure for a young guy coming in and when your

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<v Speaker 1>ice games and if you're building when you're so new

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<v Speaker 1>into your career and you're already getting clutch moments and

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<v Speaker 1>finishing games, that's a very promising sign for a playmaker

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<v Speaker 1>that they're actually going to be a clutch player. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>stoked for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Stoked.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also a new South Wales Blues fan. Hates the Queenslanders,

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<v Speaker 1>so very happy about that. There are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>upsets over the weekend. So we have the Titans, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest one. I know the Panthers had some

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<v Speaker 1>players out, but it's still a very impressive performance. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we also had the Bulldogs taking on the Eagles and

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<v Speaker 1>winning it, and then we almost had a very near

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<v Speaker 1>upset with the Dragons and the Nights. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bulldogs in a second, but the Dragons finally started

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<v Speaker 1>playing some footy bulldog what'd you make of that one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were pretty unlucky, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>At the death, I think even Cole Flanning had the

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<v Speaker 3>chance to ground the ball and he couldn't quite do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't on Carle, of course, it was a difficult one

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<v Speaker 3>for him to catch and put down.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are some gentle signs coming through. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>feel sorry for Dean Young.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go through this gip by being very diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get the fire out of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's look at this way. Dean Young came in

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<v Speaker 2>when the club needing, and he's a club legend, as

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<v Speaker 2>was his father.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course him coming into a side that's really struggling,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to impact on his ability to retain the

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<v Speaker 3>job full time and the same roster is there. Should

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<v Speaker 3>we judge Dean Young this year or on what he

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<v Speaker 3>could potentially do next year with a much improved roster. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>as much as they've improved. They nearly toppled the Knights.

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<v Speaker 3>I get all that, but they still got beaten. And

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<v Speaker 3>they've won one game this year, one game. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>very hard to talk positive about the Dragons. I want to,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm beginning to shift on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Originally I thought, with you know, with a kind of

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<v Speaker 4>roster overhaul day Ne and how badly they were going,

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<v Speaker 4>and the fact that Dean Young was part of Shane

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<v Speaker 4>Flanagan's coaching stuff, that maybe they needed to look completely,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they needed a fresh start, look elsewhere. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>I know they've only won game, won one game. Who

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<v Speaker 4>knows how many they'll win by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>But there has been enough improvement to think that whatever

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<v Speaker 4>Dean Young's doing with that group, especially you know he's

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<v Speaker 4>he's picking a lot of young guys looking at the future,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly in the forward pack, enough improvement there to show

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<v Speaker 4>that the players are responding to him. And he's even

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<v Speaker 4>finally got a bit of effort out of our homes

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<v Speaker 4>and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to touch.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, even he has also found a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of form, nowhere near his peak, But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the players are responding to whatever he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't. It's really crazy to assign a coach

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<v Speaker 1>for potential. Oh, he's going to get this squad and

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<v Speaker 1>they might start playing well. That would be a really

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<v Speaker 1>risky decision to put a coach in when you're right, bulldog,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't got the wins on the board. The thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the the Dragons beat the Knights on pretty much every

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<v Speaker 1>stat line, everything, possession, completion rate, off floats. They were

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<v Speaker 1>killing it, so they actually looked like they were playing

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<v Speaker 1>great footage. But you've got to ic your moments, and

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<v Speaker 1>I generally think that game was symptomatic of the Dragon season.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put all this effort in, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>look like a team that believes that anything they do

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<v Speaker 1>will affect the result.

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<v Speaker 3>They're down on confidence. It must feel right now that

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<v Speaker 3>everything they try it turns to you know what, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is it has look next to you better

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<v Speaker 3>times ahead. But I don't like clubs that look too

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<v Speaker 3>far ahead. You've got to play for now. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>your fans. Now, you're asking sponsors to sponsor, you're asking

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<v Speaker 3>fans to play big bucks to turn up. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>just go next year be better. It doesn't work that

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<v Speaker 3>way now, not that simple. You've got to play for now,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dean Young is desperately trying to get some results

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<v Speaker 3>this year, but it's just not happening. And I feel

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<v Speaker 3>sorry for Dina because he's putting the effort in. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>I come back, it comes down to w's and l's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and then the W column is one one tick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not good enough. Well, speaking of teams that

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to play for now and try and redeem

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<v Speaker 1>a season, Kennary Bulldogs got up against my beloved Manly Seagulls.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been more angry watching a game of footy

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I am furious over that result, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just because Bulldogs fans hate my takes on their

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<v Speaker 1>team and they were very much in my DM's bulldog,

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<v Speaker 1>giving me a lot of grief. But they did play decent,

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<v Speaker 1>They defended quite well. There were some amazing individual efforts

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<v Speaker 1>from Bulldogs players, but there's a lot of question marks

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<v Speaker 1>over that Bulldogs win. Fatima, How did you see well?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought the move.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Critter into the habs was interesting. We've seen in

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, mid game zero sort of go to

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<v Speaker 4>that when things aren't going well for them in attack,

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<v Speaker 4>which has pretty much been or if we're honest. Yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 4>they got the win, they got the winning golden point,

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<v Speaker 4>they won three from four. Now they've got an easy

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<v Speaker 4>ish run in the next month, so they have a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to springboard their season. But I think moving Critter

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<v Speaker 4>into five eight and then Burden out into the centers.

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<v Speaker 4>I always said Burden might be a better center, and

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<v Speaker 4>we saw, you know, he made a stack of runs.

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<v Speaker 4>I pick nineteen runs on the weekend. Still papers over

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<v Speaker 4>the issue that they have a massive halves conundrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing is they keep you know, now they

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<v Speaker 4>cycle Burden with Creator the rest of it. Lachlan Galvin

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<v Speaker 4>is their best five eight, but they can't play him

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<v Speaker 4>at five eight because they don't have a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, right, So you think Galvin should be playing six, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>But this thing, I actually agree with Gus Gould when

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<v Speaker 4>he says he is their best seven at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's also their best five eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where I definitely disagree with Phil Gould

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<v Speaker 1>on this one. So firstly, I think Bulldogs Fens are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty happy right now. That win covered a multitude of

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<v Speaker 1>sins like that was a terrible attacking performance by the Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>It would blew my mind that Saldo has said Burton's

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<v Speaker 1>our six, he's our five eight, this is our spine,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best one we've got. And then halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through the season he moves Burton to center, which what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has been asking for. We've got to and then,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, and then fans would have been like, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>Galvin's going to go and play five eight. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to put Stephen Crichton into five eight. And once again

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<v Speaker 1>you see that the Bulldog's attack is very pedestrian. They

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<v Speaker 1>scored one try off a lucky kick and one try

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<v Speaker 1>of Lachlan Galvin playing like a six which is a

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<v Speaker 1>dummy and run to score. So that's all they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do with the abundance of possession that they

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<v Speaker 1>had against a very depleted middle forward pack from Manly Bulldog.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of their attack?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Victory based on defense. I don't think it was based

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<v Speaker 3>on attack. And all I thought they were very lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest, Bulldogs fans would think, well, if Jamar

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<v Speaker 3>Foggley kicks one goal of his two misses, both hit

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<v Speaker 3>the post. I might add two missfield goals, but look,

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<v Speaker 3>you you make your own luck, and good luck to

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs. It was a much needed victory, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see much there to give me any confidence moving

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<v Speaker 3>forward that this is a semi final side.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a great win. Have a penrith what about

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<v Speaker 2>eight weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that's the key swin.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not seen one statement victory from a Cannaby

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<v Speaker 3>side that suggested me this side is surging towards the finals.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the one of the best centers in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had to move into five eight. I'm still yet

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<v Speaker 3>to be convinced crit is are ball playing six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it worked and they'll probably sticked with it this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>good luck to him, but there's still as you said

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<v Speaker 3>for Teama quite rightly, there's still a lot of issues there.

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<v Speaker 3>How many times is Cameron sirel though, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>blame Sero here because he's desperately trying to find the

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<v Speaker 3>right combination to push him into those finals. But how

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<v Speaker 3>many times this year has he tinkered with his spine?

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to be every single week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's the thing, right when if you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to make such a big change in your halves at

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<v Speaker 4>this point of this season, it's just going to be

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<v Speaker 4>Groundhong Day with everything that happened with Toby Sexton, which

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<v Speaker 4>was probably around the same time, same time.

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<v Speaker 5>This year, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So look, their attack is pedestrian, right, they're averaging less

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<v Speaker 4>than eighteen points, I think it's seventeen seventeen and a

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<v Speaker 4>half points per game. Only the Dragons have scored less

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<v Speaker 4>tries than them this year, right, But their attack has

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<v Speaker 4>been a problem for a couple of years and zero.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's just trying to find something that works.

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<v Speaker 4>But that tinkering is right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this tinkering started with Toby sex and I mind ed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been rounds to go.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming up to about a year now, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, put your cards on the table. Who should their spine?

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<v Speaker 1>But you go first.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd still go Look, I think Lachlan Galvin's are six.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's generally accept you. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess you have to look at Canby's

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<v Speaker 3>point of view at some point and go, well, who

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<v Speaker 3>is the seven? So look right here right now, going

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<v Speaker 3>toward the finals, I'd still go cretter in the center's

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<v Speaker 3>Burt at six, Galvin at seven. Well, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>know Galvin is a six incoming years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, what for you we're looking.

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<v Speaker 4>For right now, not the future, the future, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>I think Galvin should be playing at six, someone like

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<v Speaker 4>Sean O's Sullivan at seven. They do have they do

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<v Speaker 4>have a young kid called Alex Conti.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a half back. He actually was named on the

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<v Speaker 5>extended bench on the weekend. But he's also only twenty

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<v Speaker 5>years old.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know whether you do that to have

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<v Speaker 4>two twenty year old sort of you know, carrying the season,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I'd have tret out fullback.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>People don't like that idea. They're sort of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't use your Ferrari at fullback. But he's He's just.

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<v Speaker 4>He could be so influential for them in the same

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<v Speaker 4>way that Tommy Tobo is influential for many with him

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<v Speaker 4>at full back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd go move Hayward to Locke. We're losing that

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<v Speaker 1>ball playing ability that he has. Put whoever you want

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<v Speaker 1>in a hooker, they'll do better, and then play Sean

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<v Speaker 1>and Seldom for the experience in game management, Luckie Galvin

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<v Speaker 1>because he's actually been their best player. He'll be great

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<v Speaker 1>at six. Keep Connor Tracy at one because they need

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<v Speaker 1>him for that defensive backbone. So we've sold all those

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<v Speaker 1>problems for the Bulldogs are welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about a couple of something I picked up

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<v Speaker 1>recently in three losses over the past two rounds that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be incredibly detrimental to teams finals chances

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<v Speaker 1>is the goalkicking. So let's just lay this down. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week the Warriors lost to the Sharks because Adam Pompey

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<v Speaker 1>missed a penalty kick on the siren, was absolutely kickable

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<v Speaker 1>and missed it. They also stuffed up their field goal chance.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, our Holmes is sitting a meter away from

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<v Speaker 1>the right upright and misses it completely. And then for

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<v Speaker 1>the manly game they actually as well scored, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon scored more tries than the Knights, the Eagle scored

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<v Speaker 1>more tries than the Bulldogs. Jamal Fogg and he misses

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<v Speaker 1>to Ruby and Garrett missus one. And then they botched

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<v Speaker 1>two field goals attempts, So that's five opportunities where they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ice the game. Is goal kicking. Here's here's my

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<v Speaker 1>here's my hypothesis, and you guys can wrestle with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you need to have a clutch kicker in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make the Grand Final?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you need a good goal kicker.

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<v Speaker 1>Does I want him to be clutched?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you the moment you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think all of them would be clutching? All of them practice?

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<v Speaker 3>They should all be striking these days and around eighty

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<v Speaker 3>eighty five percent that's the expected figure in the old days.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so like an old fart if you're kicking about

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five percent or a good goal kicker. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 3>true the roof. But look, clutch kicking doesn't come down

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<v Speaker 3>to practice. It comes down to pressure, and it's up

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<v Speaker 3>to the person as to whether he can handle that pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>And pressure does funny things to normally strong minded people.

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<v Speaker 3>But look and answer your question, yes, clearly, I get

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<v Speaker 3>just as frustrated around field goals and the inability of

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<v Speaker 3>professional rugby league teams to position themselves for a match

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<v Speaker 3>winning field goal. Yeah, they fumble and they bumble, and

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<v Speaker 3>they go left, they go right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that flame and hard.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got a right foot kicker, send a couple

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<v Speaker 3>down the left edge and come back and stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Back twenty minutes week.

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<v Speaker 3>It was rather than standing up neither defensive fly and

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<v Speaker 3>getting get charged down, it was a bumble of fault.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to ask you about that, Sophie.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Manly set up in the late in the first

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<v Speaker 4>stanza of Golden Point, what we what?

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<v Speaker 1>I was dying. I was dying watching it. So clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>So the criticism of Jamal Foggerty from Raiders fancies that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't It wasn't a clutch goalkicker in those key moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's unfair. It's probably accurate, but it's unfair in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of well, everything else he brought you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be everything. He's not Nathan Cleary. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>he clearly though likes We've seen this before. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him hit a couple of field goals for Manly. He

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<v Speaker 1>likes to be twelve meters out in front and slam

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<v Speaker 1>it through. And so that's what that's the Clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>position he was trying to set up for the Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 1>are the best charge down to him in the camp.

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<v Speaker 1>They are so hungry and fast off the line to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that player. You can't do that. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be you have to have the balls and bravado

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<v Speaker 1>like Critter to drop all the way back and now

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<v Speaker 1>all the attentions on you. You've really got to nail it.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least you've got space in time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the same was with the Warriors as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Tomorrow Martin where they watch their opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>and you're right, the position, you're too close. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be clutch. So on that, who would you want

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got you've got one player to choose from

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<v Speaker 1>in the competition. It's the Grand Final, it's sixteen all

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<v Speaker 1>you've scored in the right hand corner. Who would you

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<v Speaker 1>want kicking for that goal to win the goal?

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<v Speaker 2>Or a field goal?

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<v Speaker 1>A goal guy, and then we'll go field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me put him on the spot, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>The best treaker in the competition, I've got no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>is jermainus Zako.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think he's hitting eighty five. Yeah, he's killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's six and six.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I think out there at Campbelltown on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're asking me for the best kicker, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>i'd go Jamaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then what about clutch for field goal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, probably Nay or Cherry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cherry doesn't many.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Man, I got to tell you again, as a

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<v Speaker 1>Manly fan watching DC kick that field goal to go

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<v Speaker 1>up by a point, it was almost like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're missing, guys field goals.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also that argument of like maybe teams need

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<v Speaker 1>to get more strategic and when you're ahead by six

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<v Speaker 1>or twelve, just get to get an extra point ahead

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<v Speaker 1>so you Can's almost.

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<v Speaker 2>They feel like it's a mental weakness to take the

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<v Speaker 2>one point. Yeah, you've got to go for the try.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sign that you've surrendered by taking the point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if there's a point there and it's an important point,

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<v Speaker 3>take it. Take the point a bit like man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>bit old fashion. If it's two points, take the two points.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to try, man, it's hard to try. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to take the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty clear that if your team's not going to win

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<v Speaker 1>the camp unless you've got a clutch goalkicker. Moving on

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<v Speaker 1>from last weekend's results, let's go back even further into

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<v Speaker 1>the past and talk about the abominable loss for the

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales Blues. The Maroons absolutely smashed them. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of chat about Laurie daily about the selections,

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<v Speaker 1>the bench rotations, but then individual players performances as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's break down first if a teama, where did

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales go wrong on Wednesday night?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>That feels like such a big, loaded question because you

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<v Speaker 4>know there were going into that game chats about how

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<v Speaker 4>poor New South Wales have started in their last few games.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we saw much of that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of intensity that was high energy.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the bench rotations were a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>headstrap scratcher. You've got Adam Fanil Blake comes on. I

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<v Speaker 4>think what plays eight minutes? You know, the decision not

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<v Speaker 4>to start with with Cam Murray.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I don't know. It just it wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I think we said a couple of shows

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<v Speaker 4>ago that Ethan Strange was going to be one of

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<v Speaker 4>the hardest decisions now that Mitch Moses was available, because

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<v Speaker 4>it was almost like a lose lose situation for Laurie.

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<v Speaker 4>Now in hindsight, everyone's saying, well, oh, Mitch and Nathan

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<v Speaker 4>didn't work.

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<v Speaker 5>They're too similar.

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<v Speaker 4>He should have stuck with Ethan Strange. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if we'd lost with Ethan Strange, we'd be having the

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<v Speaker 4>same discussion. So Laurie's in a top spot in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of his selections as people left, right and center.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy's got to come in.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always got to come back here, Liam Martin, Stephen Crichton,

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<v Speaker 4>the trail Michol.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I don't know. It wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I felt like they actually knew south Well's performed

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<v Speaker 1>fantastically for the first twenty minutes. It's like but it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost like this. All the attention, energy and direction

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<v Speaker 1>went into let's win the first twenty minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan fell apart for the next sixty and

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Queensland just dominated us. There was so much criticism of

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<v Speaker 1>those bench rotations, and I think rightfully so I could

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<v Speaker 1>not fathom Adam fanol Blake getting on the field at

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<v Speaker 1>that point in time. There was this is a time

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<v Speaker 1>where you need to take advantage of a team's fatigue,

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<v Speaker 1>and we chose power over pace and it obviously blew

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<v Speaker 1>up in our face. You get a sim bin and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's all over anyway, But the game was done.

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<v Speaker 1>They had absolutely destroyed us. I feel for ca Toni Staggs,

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<v Speaker 1>who put in probably his worst performance he's ever put in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it made me think that in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>right now, they don't have faith in the game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't believe in what they what they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve and they where's.

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<v Speaker 2>This coming from? What are you basing that comment on?

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<v Speaker 1>By the lack of performance?

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<v Speaker 2>The second half was poor?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, and there's reasons and the first guy fair,

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<v Speaker 3>go let's go through very quickly the bad points. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like you, I was confused around the rotation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there was the Toni stag sindmon which did disrupt the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think we had enough bodies in motion.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think we were played enough footy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're just trying to get to our kicks,

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<v Speaker 3>kick long and hope for the mistake. Queen's oun said

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<v Speaker 3>stuff this, we're going to go rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>We had Harry going down the short side and months

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<v Speaker 3>of throwing pass over his head. It kicks across field,

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of things. They are exciting and we were

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<v Speaker 3>left behind. There's no doubt about that. But in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of selections, question marks too over Mitchell Moses, whether he

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<v Speaker 3>should have played or not. But again, we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>whether Mitchell Moses was fit. You think he was fit

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<v Speaker 3>just because he didn't play well, It doesn't mean we

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<v Speaker 3>should all jump the conclusion he shouldn't have plagued because

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't fit.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know that. So Laurie's got a few hard

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<v Speaker 2>calls to make in.

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<v Speaker 1>Terms of are you were biding at me saying they

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe in the game plan? So you go on, Ham, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you basing it? Because they played terribly and

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<v Speaker 1>players no?

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<v Speaker 2>Well then what are you basing on?

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<v Speaker 1>But they could even if I spoke to them, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're going to answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not believe in the game Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what I'm saying is, I'm all for condemnation,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all for criticism, all for debate, and all for

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<v Speaker 3>questioning Lorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm a friend of Lorry's. I've always made that upfront,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think some of the criticism has been justified, warranted, And

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<v Speaker 3>if you have that opinion, I've got no problem whatsoever

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<v Speaker 3>as long as it's measured, considered, and it's analytical. But

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<v Speaker 3>the personal criticism is what's got to me. I see,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been revolting. It's made me sick to the stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the stuff I've read, it's unfair, it's unsettled, lorry,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's and it's more social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me point that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Mainstream media is more analytical. But some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that I've read has been appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so let's and I'm a fan, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a journo. I'm coming from a different perspective and

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<v Speaker 1>I am an online content creator. I am part of

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<v Speaker 1>your enemy bulldog. So let me ask you this though,

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<v Speaker 1>what for you, what is the line between legitimate criticism

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<v Speaker 1>and personal attack, Because I've definitely come in defensive Laurie.

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<v Speaker 1>At times I don't think his speeches are boring, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>But other times I think there's legitimate question marks of

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<v Speaker 1>what we don't know what he's doing, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like genuine analysts and pundits don't know either. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>For you that the line of the saying, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>is professional.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we questioning his ability as a coach or are

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<v Speaker 3>we questioning what he's done personally? And I think look

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<v Speaker 3>it's a foggy line. There's no clear line that goes

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<v Speaker 3>down the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in perfect a line. It's cloudy. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that he gets it.

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<v Speaker 3>Laurie's been in the media and been a coach for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time as he was a player. He understands criticism.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think some of the stuff that's been said

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<v Speaker 3>written has been poor. But he gets it too. He

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<v Speaker 3>understands it when you're lose by forty odd in Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to suffer the consequences, and he is doing

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<v Speaker 3>that right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you view it, Fatima?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I tend to agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the reality is there's enough wrong there at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment with the Blues where you could have completely

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<v Speaker 4>legitimate criticisms, whether you know, like you said, with its selections,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 4>it's the game plan, the rotations, the you know, taking

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<v Speaker 4>Critter into game one with the ac injury, not knowing

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<v Speaker 4>how good or bad which will Moses hamstring was. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's definitely there's enough there for the fans to criticize

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<v Speaker 4>Lorrie without getting personal.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I want, you know what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love Laurie and I've spoken to about this I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love Laurie to come out before the game and really

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<v Speaker 3>get on the front foot and say, I've had a

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<v Speaker 3>gutful of the criticism. I've had a gutful of people

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<v Speaker 3>coming at me. I've had a gutful of everyone telling

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<v Speaker 3>me what to do. I'm gonna do it my way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it a strong way, and I want the

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<v Speaker 3>boys right behind me. I want their support. I want

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<v Speaker 3>them to win for themselves, to win, for the coach,

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<v Speaker 3>to win, for the state. How about And I know

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<v Speaker 3>this is probably living in fantasy land that New South

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<v Speaker 3>Wales actually your night. Yeah, yeah, I know we don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that. We pick ourselves apart in one game one

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<v Speaker 3>and we still tore each other to streets. It would

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<v Speaker 3>be nic And I know a couple of coaches have

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<v Speaker 3>wrung me about this, saying, can we try to get

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<v Speaker 3>behind the state. It doesn't happen. We don't do it

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<v Speaker 3>in yourself wells yet we bad Queensland. But they do

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<v Speaker 3>it up there. They'll have their say and they will

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<v Speaker 3>be questioning their selections and then after two days they

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<v Speaker 3>go right, this is our team. Let's get behind them.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be nice if we could do that. All

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<v Speaker 3>this doom and gloom feels like we've lost a series

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<v Speaker 3>three nil.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one one. We've earnt that right by winning in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it fortunate? It was? We all get that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we still go up there with a chance and

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<v Speaker 3>outside chance, it's a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I think the criticism of Laurie is

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<v Speaker 1>is and he has become partly a meme online because

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<v Speaker 1>of his inability to clearly and effectively communicate to the media.

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<v Speaker 1>So what a fan is supposed to do that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not in the inner sactum, so we're just looking at results,

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<v Speaker 1>how the team is playing. A lot of people do

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<v Speaker 1>think we're unbelievably fortunate to get away with that win,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did think we played poorly and just got lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but Laurie doesn't have to communicate to the media. Well,

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Laury has to do what he has to do to

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<v Speaker 3>the media. He's going to communicate to the place, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>His main role. He doesn't have to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Up there and communicate to us with any analytical conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for the players.

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<v Speaker 3>How he handles the media is up to him. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Billy does it very well. That's not a criticism

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<v Speaker 3>of Laurie. I think Billy every conversation Billy has, he

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<v Speaker 3>every sentence Billy says has a meaning to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I find Billy does a very good job. He does.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what you see. You've gone. You've said like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't need to worry about the media, but Billy

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<v Speaker 1>handles the media different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also for courses. Just because Billy doesn't doesn't mean Lurry's.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone needs to. If we want New South Wales fans

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<v Speaker 1>to get behind our coach, someone needs to have that

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<v Speaker 1>clary and call that striking vision to unify this. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want him to say something? Well, what

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>do you want him to say? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so many things. Hey, sorry, we got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>These tactics aren't working. We have met together and we've

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<v Speaker 1>taken respect with a very big honesty sessions. I'm taking responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Here's my vision, here's my vision. But he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to tell you that. I know he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to. But if you're saying we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>the fans around Laurie daily, we need a visible.

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<v Speaker 3>We should support them because we're born in yourself, well,

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<v Speaker 3>not because the coach might't tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you support doesn't it out works. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I just need to be fully positive about

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<v Speaker 1>everything Laurie's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Not fully positive.

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<v Speaker 3>I said quite clearly early on that there should be

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<v Speaker 3>condemnation when it's necessary, and there should be criticism. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's up to each individual. What is wayn

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<v Speaker 3>Bennett give you nothing jack shit every week. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest coach too, because he's got results.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Look at des has That's why. Yeah, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 3>that each individual coach has an individual way of going

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>about how their approached the media, what they want to

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<v Speaker 3>let out of the bag, and what they tell their players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah well, yeah, okay, Bulldog and I am not going

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<v Speaker 1>to agree on this one, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>agree with Laurie's coaching record. I think it's unfortunate for

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<v Speaker 1>low because he's clearly from all reports, an incredibly likable bloke.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been a great servant to New South Wales as

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<v Speaker 1>a performer, but fans are getting frustrated with his coaching

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and the lack of results. That being said, Bulldog, there

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>is still Game three. We could turn it around. My

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>confidence levels are low, but maybe You're right, maybe I

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>need to be more like a Queenslander. Okay, I'm going

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to get out of this this chat. Four bulldog punches,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, out of origin. We look to the weak

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and there are two really really exciting games coming

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 1>on this weekend. We have the Battle of brook Far.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>We've got the Manly Seagulls versus the Melbourne Storm and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're also going to look at the Dolphins and

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors, which is shaping up to be a decider

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<v Speaker 1>of who could end up in second place with both

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>teams in red hot form. Battle of Brookie Bulldog. What

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>do you love about it?

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I love the memories.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I can remember that day, so all those years ago

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 3>when rugby league was rugby.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>League and men were men and we didn't have six

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<v Speaker 2>A games Bunkers.

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<v Speaker 3>The glory brings a tear to a lass I seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>but it should be a great game. Look, obviously, the

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<v Speaker 3>Forsball resurgence just took a minusetack just a pothole.

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<v Speaker 2>On the weekend. Melbourne have now won three straight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're like five from six or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I still don't think they can get to, okay, the

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<v Speaker 3>top four or Grand Final. It this season may end

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 3>up being a limp into the finals. That reminds me

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 3>a bit of last year. Use up a lot of

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 3>juice draw to get back into the competition after a pause.

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 3>But they got there, the Panthers, and in the end

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 3>albit they got to a premium. They fell just short

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>because I think they'll just add a fuel. So look,

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>if they can make the finals and they do run

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 3>hot with Munster Brant so far longer than that far

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 3>of course your own hughes. If they run hot, they

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>can beat anybody. But at the moment, I think they'll

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 3>fall just short. Yeah, okay, yeah, And so who you're

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 3>picking for the weekend do you think I think many

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>will get him at Brookvale? And that other game you

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 3>talk about Dolphins Warriors terrific game.

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Dolphins are now in a second people favorite.

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 3>And then I who have thought that I always called

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 3>them a smoky I don't think they were smoking anymore.

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I think they were general contenders, Yeah, genuine premiership chances.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I got so much speed. They without all their guns

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 3>on the weekend too, and they still beat the Tigers.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Sophie, you've got me on the hoppy. Where's that game

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>being played?

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 5>That game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll still go the Warriors. You know why.

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>They've got a bit of grin of had a missyear

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the Warriors, which I haven't had years gone by. They

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>was had a bit of flair. But I think the

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Grits getting him home and I think they'll get the

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 3>cash up there for team.

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<v Speaker 1>Are your thoughts my thoughts?

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you let's go Dolphins Warriors dodge teams? He thinks

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in more better chance of who think's going to finish

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>higher on the ladder?

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<v Speaker 5>Are those two a couple of weeks ago when we

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 5>said the Warriors?

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 4>But now so obviously they lost turn of Boid the

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 4>season Jackson Ford. They're waiting to see just how bad

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 4>that Peck injuries is. He's been the best, most consistent

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<v Speaker 4>forward all year. He's going to be a massive loss

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<v Speaker 4>for them if he has ruptured that Peck muscle.

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<v Speaker 5>I really like the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just such a joyful, fun team to watch. They

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<v Speaker 4>remind me of my team camera from last year. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I was going into the final series thinking if camebra

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<v Speaker 4>are going to me sitting.

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<v Speaker 5>At sixteenth they look like they are. The Warriors were

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<v Speaker 5>going to be my team.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I might jump on the Finns band,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you think about, you know, the win

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<v Speaker 4>on the weekend it came they were heavily undermanned without

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<v Speaker 4>their origin stars, and then Izy Katola is a late emission.

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<v Speaker 4>The way Cody nick Garima is playing, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>close to the career best form for him, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of players at career best form, and there's just there're

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<v Speaker 4>a feel good story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And well, the thing about the Dolphins is I've

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<v Speaker 1>looked at their injury list and there's almost nobody out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're facing the next ten games with none of their

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<v Speaker 1>men out, which means they've already in roaring hot form

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got all their players available. I generally think

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins this game is going to end up being

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<v Speaker 1>second place in the competition. And I think the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>have a steeper hill to climb because losing just through

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries that they've had, the acls Metcalf hasn't got

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<v Speaker 1>back into the team and found form. Yet they're lacking

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<v Speaker 1>that clutch playmaker that they need. For that they need

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<v Speaker 1>to capitalize on all their forwards hard work. So I actually,

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<v Speaker 1>generally I think the Warriors are still a great team,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to finish top four. I think Dolphins are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely going to smash them up there. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>just ready to go and that the Dolphins end up

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<v Speaker 1>finishing second and just on the Battle of Brookvale. How

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<v Speaker 1>could I forget Manly are absolutely going to smoke the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just because I've got a really really hate Albourne

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<v Speaker 1>and I love Manly, but the boys are informed. They

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<v Speaker 1>always get up for this game. I know Melbourne are

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<v Speaker 1>on a good streak, but it's going to be Manly

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<v Speaker 1>by thirteen plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Or can you get about four coffees?

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