WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 17 June 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:00.480 Late. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.880 Wait, general, welcome to the Lighter Base. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:08.560 Well, thanks for your company. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.040 I'm James macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.680 up tonight. The US President literally freezes on stage and 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.759 has to be chaperoned by Barack Obama. Some would argue 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.880 that's what's been happening for the last few years. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.400 Plus. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.800 When we get to the papers, the CFMAU grants its 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.560 members of twenty one percent pay rise, and the Herald 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.280 Sun reports how Victorian police will be given brand new 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.960 powers in a bid to fight knife crime. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.600 But before we get to all of that, a. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.199 American tech company, one of the fastest tech companies in 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:43.199 the world, has just made headlines by admitting they're not 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:49.480 hiring staff based on diversity, equity and inclusion. The company 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:54.240 instead is hiring people based on wait for it, they're intelligence. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.120 The CEO of Scale Ai says it instead of hiring 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.000 people for their color or their second orientation, they're instead 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.600 hiring people for their ability to do the job, which 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.720 may explain why in just eight years the company has 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.280 gone on to become worth fourteen billion dollars. The CEO 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.520 of the company, Alexander Wang, wrote on Twitter, we've formalized 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:22.279 an important hiring policy at scale. We hire for MEI merit, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.240 excellence and intelligence. That means we hire only the best 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.520 people to do the job. We seek out and demand excellence, 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:35.400 and we unapologetically prefer people who are smart. Upholding meritocracy 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.000 is good for business and it's the right thing to do. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.319 Calebn is we've seen a real push for DEI after, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.720 of course, the death of George Floyd and then companies 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.760 were encouraged to address historical wrongs against women and the 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.680 LGBTQ members and people of color by seeking to employ them. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.520 But over the past four years, companies have realized it's 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.200 not good for production, poisonous to corporate culture. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.680 And it's bad for everybody. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.960 It puts qualified people out of jobs they should be doing, 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.880 and it puts unqualified people into jobs they have no 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.640 place to be doing, like Claudine Gay from Harvard University 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.880 or Kamala Harris, to name another, as the US vice president. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.799 Are you surprised, Liz, that someone's actually decided to employ 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:20.680 people based. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:25.040 On no People are getting back to business, and the 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.280 business of business is to make money. So I'm sure 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.560 any shareholders in a place that upholds the DEI principles 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.680 are noticing we keep missing out the reason why guys 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.080 like Elon Mask can buy Twitter fire eighty percent of 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.040 the workforce. He used to have eight thousand employees. Once 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.720 he was done culling, it was just fifteen hundred. That 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.240 behemoth now runs off just fifteen hundred people. And he 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.640 was able to do so because he kept the smartest, 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.000 the slickest, the most hardest working. It was a mirror 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.400 base selection process. And I think more and more people 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.760 are waking up to the fact that, hey, even if 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.120 it's just in terms of cutting the fat, in comparing 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.600 the number of employees we have to the ones that 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:13.600 we need. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.400 In order to run our ship smoothly. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.280 So thank goodness, because we all know if you do 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.679 away with the hierarchy of competence, you just get chaos. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.080 And that is what we are seeing breaking out in 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.799 these corporates, whether it's little ways or large And we 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.400 saw this the it would have been last week alone 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.400 with bud Light, with Target, with these companies that took 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:42.160 up these massive woke campaigns cost their shareholders dearly. I 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.240 bet those guys aren't so passionate about DEI hiring in 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.360 the workplace anymore. Your job is to make us money. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:50.800 Get back to base. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.000 I've got to disagree with you on the Twitter thing, though, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.080 because if Elon Musk had not got rid of all 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.760 those stuff, we would be free of our e Safety Commission. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.000 So you figure that that's what she used to work for. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.760 She was I'm sure, I'm pretty sure she was floating 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.480 around the service four. Elon Musk got got to Twitter 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.400 and look, may I open by saying it's nice to 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.280 have you back on the late debate, James, and you 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.360 are proof that it is. You are still useful as 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.880 a member of the workforce, tod aff at the age 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:27.000 of fifty, So maybe maybe you qualify to DEI measures. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.600 And I was thinking of a birthday cake on Wednesday 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:30.360 for your birthday. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.440 It now short Sky News is going to buil that 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.160 for all its worth in terms of subsidies that we 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.000 may be able to get through. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.039 This is what I told me. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.800 Caleb said how much he'd enjoyed hosting, and he wished 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.960 you weren't coming here. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.640 We don't listen, don't believe a word list is She 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.279 is full of garbage as usual, But isn't it extraordinary 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.320 that here we are opening a television program in twenty 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.520 twenty four with a story about some checks notes a 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.240 person who is hiring. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.599 The best person for the job. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.599 What does that tell you about and where we have 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.359 come to that It is literally a story when a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.360 guy says, yeah, I'm going to hire the best person 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:16.279 for the job, apologetically prefer people who are very smart. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.279 That's a news story. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.960 Now, what does that tell you about where we've come to? 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.160 And it was only a matter of time before this 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.560 was going to happen because if you look, and it's 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.120 not only employers who are obviously starting to reap the 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.520 consequences of what they have sown, but it's also all 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.720 the people who have to work with these people who 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.799 are not appointed on merit, who sit around tapping away 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.520 or whatever their job might be and actually getting the 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.920 work done. And then they look around them and they've 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.880 got people there who have been hired on the basis 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.360 of the fact that they're filling a quota and going, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.800 hang on, I have to make up for the extra 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:57.400 slack that they leave behind. What DEI does is not 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.160 actually promote excellence in the workplace, So it doesn't actually 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.360 make anyone who is promoted to a job through those 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.600 means of a quota, be they female, black, gay, whatever 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.799 you want to pull out of the grab bag doesn't 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.080 do anything. They help their cause because it makes everyone 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.880 else go, why the hell did you hire this bag? 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.039 And they're not doing the work. People want to work 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.160 with other people who also want to work. And what 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.279 you've had is a blowback now not only from the 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.919 employees but the workers because they can see it and 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.480 feel it every day as well. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.400 And they've got no reason to excel. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.640 I mean, how frustrating is that when you know it 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.159 doesn't matter if I'm the best in the department, I'm 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.120 not going to get that promotion because I'm a guy 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.160 or I'm. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.240 A fill in the blank. This is how they got 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.720 the infamous joke of the USSR. They pretend to pay us, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.200 we pretend to work. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.120 No one's trying to excel, no one's trying to get ahead, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.240 because they all knew there is a certain system we're 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.240 operating within here and it doesn't reward the hardest work. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.240 And this was entirely predictable because long before anyone sort 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.200 of DEI, you'd hear guys on work sites talk about 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.599 the fact they've got a new guy on the work 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.800 site and he's working too fast, and so he told 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.320 him we're going to carry less bricks, slow down. So 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.560 that's human nature, right, and so the DEI thing was 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.480 entirely predictable that it was not going to be good 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.560 for productivity or for business. Fortunately, corporate starting to work 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.320 it out, you've got to go back to meritocracy. About 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.040 ten years from now, hopefully our politicians will work out 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.560 that our political parties would be best served by appointing 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.480 the best people rather than having quotas for political parties. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:32.680 Then we'll get a better country. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.320 I just wonder how fast you can actually unwind it, though, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.680 because when these policies, I mean these policies have been 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.280 pushed for the better part of ten years now, and 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.760 particularly you look at things like politics, quotas for women, etc. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.040 So if the employers decide that they're now going to 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.320 go away from DEI and they do want to go 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.880 back to actually just hiring the best person for the job, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 all these people who thought they were guaranteed jobs just 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.840 on the basis of some attribute that really had nothing 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.960 to do with doing their job, they're going to start 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.640 to squeal and the noise will be absolutely deafening. So 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.000 and again it's the businesses have kind of downe it 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.840 to themselves, right because they promise something that they're now 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.200 going to reneg on. But I reckon the noise that's 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.520 going to come out of that's going to be extreme, Like, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.760 how are we going to deal with that? 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.680 Oh, the accusations of races, the accusations of biggotedness? 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:21.960 Is that a word? It is? 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:22.400 Now? 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.400 But then God, it's an AI cego who's taking merit 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.560 very seriously because we know AI is the way of 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.720 the future, whether we like it or not. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.959 The horse has bolted. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.000 So it was with great interest we read today in 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.440 our headlines that open AI, which we were talking about 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.640 just last week because quite a few whistleblowers left the 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.280 company saying, look, we can't go into detail, but what's 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.680 happening there is dangerous and we want no part of it. Well, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.520 in an effort to reassure the community, Open AI has 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.960 appointed a former ns A director. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.360 To their board. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:09.479 Who finds this reassuring not me. The National Security Agency 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:16.280 is the biggest and most secretive surveillance organization in America. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.160 What does that tell you? Well, the former director, his 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.920 name is Paul Nakasoni. He comes out with this lovely epithet, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.040 saying how glad he is to be joining the team. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.240 He simply says, open Ai occupies a unique role facing 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:37.360 cyber threats while pioneering transformative technology that could revolutionize how 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.840 institutions can bat them. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.160 I am looking. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.560 Forward to supporting the company in safeguarding its innovations, will 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.560 leveraging them to benefit society at large. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.360 Well, mate, we all. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:57.200 Know how the NSA benefits society at large. On the 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:03.160 same day that disappointment was announced, Edward Snowden tweeted this. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.560 He said, they've gone full mask off. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.800 Do not ever trust open ai or its products, Chat, GPT, etc. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.080 There is only one reason for pointing an s NSA 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.920 government government director. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.200 To your board. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:23.080 This is a willful, calculated betrayal of the rights of every. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:27.240 Person on earth. You have been warned. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:27.439 Now. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.360 You would remember Edward Snowden because he is the man 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:36.400 responsible for the biggest intelligence leak in NSA history. Over 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.240 ten years ago. He laid bare the fact that these 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:46.599 guys were spying on Americans conversations, their emails, their texts, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:51.880 their actual phone conversations, that they had these clandestine deals 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:57.240 with every platform you can name on the interwebs, giving 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:02.920 them unprecedented access to communications on their platforms, and perhaps 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:08.120 most harrowingly, he told everyone about this quantum computer that 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.880 the NSSA were in a race to build, which would 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.640 give it the capability to crack even the most sophisticated codes, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:21.199 whether that's banking details, whether that's access to people's medical records. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.680 This thing that they were trying to build over ten 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.240 years ago, you wonder where it's at now. He was 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.559 extremely concerned about so he resked his life and limb 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.520 to lay this bear to the entire world to let 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.600 people know this is what the NSSA is really up to, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.400 and it was completely illegal. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.240 I mean, there's no argument about that. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.480 What they were doing, the data that they were gathering illegally. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.560 And now we have the former director of that same 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:56.120 agency now working for open AI, just days after they've 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.880 had disgruntled employees leaving, saying this is dat dress, almost 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.760 in Edward Snowden fashion, this is dangerous. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.760 We're leaving, we want no part of it. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.040 You could dismiss it as just one of those things, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:13.040 but you've got FBI, CIA and NSA former staff members 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.200 entrenched at Twitter Google at Facebook, we saw during the 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:22.080 Hunter Biden laptop fiasco how the Secret Services pressured social 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:27.120 media companies to either suppress information or delete accounts, not 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.119 allow things. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.560 To be shared. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.280 So you've got all of these former Secret Service people 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.760 now embedded in social media companies. It's hard not to 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.920 think more is going on than just a few people 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.640 have found themselves a nice cushy job after serving the 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:42.800 government in secret service. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.679 True and look to be perfectly honest. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.480 If you are running any of those companies, I can 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.000 totally understand why you would hire someone from MIT inside 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.040 because the knowledge they would bring you is probably worth 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.080 every cent you are paying them, not as. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.800 Much as the knowledge that they're taking. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.240 But as to the point of whether the mass is 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.079 coming off, I don't think the mask is coming off. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.200 The mask's been off forever. I mean, we all kind 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.520 of know that these companies are just milking us for 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:12.400 all we're worth. Right, and Meta with its AI system 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.400 as of the end of the month, will compulsorily take 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.360 from every person who uses its services. In Australia, there's 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.120 no opt out clause, So that's Facebook, Instagram, et cetera 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.280 years and year's worth of content that you've posted photos, words, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.560 and whatever, and feed that into its AI bot to 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.920 try and train it to be, you know, talk to 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.160 people in a human fashion, et cetera, ceter So for years, 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.200 you've been handing over stuff that you know, you just 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.480 thought you were posting on Facebook or you were posting 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.640 on Instagram, and we all kind of knew that they 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.360 had algorithms and they were using content that we posted 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.920 to then target us with content that they thought we 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.920 would want more of, because their objective is to keep 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.480 us on their platform for as long as possible. But 0:13:55.520 --> 0:14:00.000 it's essentially been a decades long project where they've collected 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.040 did all of this data that we knew was being 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.199 used in some way but not in the same way 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.080 as AI, and all of a sudden, it's going to 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.160 be feed into an AI bot. And as I've said 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.240 many times, and Sam Crosby said on the Sunday Showdown 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.920 last night, if the product is free, you are the product. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.160 And that's exactly where we're at. It's no surprise that 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.600 a company like open ai would be getting people on 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.760 board who understand security intelligence. They want to milk us 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.200 for everything we are worth, and that's exactly what they're doing. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.880 And the scariest bit is that the only way to 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.520 not give them that data now is essentially not engaged 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.720 with their products at all. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.600 And in the modern world, that's very difficult to do. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.680 Like we're saying, you've got to get off Facebook, you've 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.640 got to get off Instagram, you got to get off everything. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.200 You can't use AI and these things are just part 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.360 and parcel of modern life. We're saying, you've got to 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.080 go back to the Stone Age if you don't essentially 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.120 want to have every little sceric of your being stolen 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.800 from you. So what do we meant to do consumers 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:01.400 in that world? 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.400 I mean Elon Musk pointed this out the other week, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.240 didn't he Where he said he would ban his one 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.640 hundred thousand employees from bringing an iPhone onto the site. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.440 Now that iPhone or Apple rather combining with open ai. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.720 And so Elon Musk has and this is before we've 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.520 talked about former NSA officials working for open Ai. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.280 So add that to the mix. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.920 But just take your real mission at this point, Like serious. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.680 Musk was on the board at AI, at open ai 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.880 when it first started. So he's pointing out the problems 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.800 and the dangers with this so when Elon Musk is 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.359 raising the alarm, it's something people should. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.080 And he was one of many who a year ago 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.880 put out early adopters and a part of the AI 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.320 world who said that we actually really need to talk 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.880 about the seriousness of where this is going. I mean, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.280 be even sake, this is a blow who wants to 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.000 put chips in people's brains that are linked up to AI, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.560 and even he acknowledges that there are dangers in this system. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.000 Let's come home now and go down to Hobart where 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.480 the Hobart City councilor Louise Eliot, who you can watch 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.600 most weeks on The Bolt Report, has managed to extract 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.080 an apology from the Hobart City Council after they denied 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.600 her the opportunity to rent a hall from them to 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.200 host a pro women event. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.080 Now you might be. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.840 Aware that Louise Elliot has been pursued by her own 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.280 counsel many times for comments that she has made around transgenderism, etc. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.360 Stuff she said on social media. She's been counseled by 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:32.120 the council pardon the pun. Other counselors have complained about it. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:32.280 Well. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.840 She went off to try and hire a hall for 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.720 this event in her capacity as a private citizen. She 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.080 didn't try to use throw her weight around as a 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.440 counselor to say you must give this to me. And 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.800 they denied her the opportunity to hire the hall on 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.240 the basis of what the event would be. And all 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.280 of this came out in an FOI request. Well, actually 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.680 part of it was denied in the FOI request, but 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.280 someone had sent a complaint. A transgender activists had sent 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.159 a complaint to the Lord Mayor of Hobart saying they 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.120 were worried about the event, and the Lord Mayor then 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.120 sent a message back to this activist and said, don't worry, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.560 we've canceled the event on the basis of what it was. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.719 So it all started to come out, even though they 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.800 had redacted it from FOI requests, that the only reason 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.840 it couldn't be held is because the council didn't like 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:29.080 the political views. Luise Elliott responded after the council apologized 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.800 and by the way, reportedly had to give her some compensation, 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.200 she said, you can have all the diversity plans, flags 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.640 and photo opportunities you like, but they're worthless show voting 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.720 if words and actions don't align what happened to me 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.440 proved that the HCC, that's the Hobart City Council's talk 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:50.520 of being inclusive and welcoming is selective and you can 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.359 imagine all of this has taken a toll on her. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.080 She said on X the Hobart City Council's discrimination towards 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.159 me has finally been resolved. The depth of the lying 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:04.280 scheming as lanting, privacy breaches and frustration of processes has 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.119 been astounding. I mean, seriously, when you have counsels in 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.840 this country taking the fight up against their own counselors 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.439 because they want to hire a hall to have a 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.840 pro women event, it tells you how far we've falled. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.439 And it was quite malicious because whoever it was in 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:25.080 council that saw the booking then notified a transactivist in 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.920 Hobart that Louise Elliot has made a booking and encouraged 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.320 this activist to protest back to the council. And when 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.880 Louise Elliott talks there on X about having been gas lit, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.280 I mean she has been absolutely slammed by her own 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.440 counsel as anti trans, as a bigot, and by the way, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.360 she's not anti trans, she's pro women's rights, and that's 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.800 all she's ever tried to do is to stand up 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.240 for the rights of women to play against women in 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.480 sport and have their own spaces that are reserved for women. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.919 And for that she's been pillared from, you know. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.359 Pulled from pillar to post. 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.600 So at a post that's the expression I was looking for, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.320 and as you said, had to undergo counseling sessions to 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.840 realign her thinking with. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.840 The altercation, education. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.360 Re education. How much did the rate payers pay for that? 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.080 I mean it says a lot when anything pro women 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:23.080 is now automatically seen as anti trans and right, the 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.800 automatically up the nose of those people and they feel 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:27.880 like they've got a right. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.879 To tear it down. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.240 You never see these at pro men events. It's always 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.080 the women's space is under attack. It's the women's sports 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.000 under attack. All the men want in on our stuff. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.320 It is absolutely infuriating. I'm so glad that she's won 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.760 this round because we need to see more of this. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.920 And like she says, oh, Hobart. 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.760 You're so inclusive, you're so diverse. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.680 I mean, the Biscuit of Australia is one of the most. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.680 Left leaning places in the nation. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.560 Thank goodness, there are a little bit of a water 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.040 ways away. But here she goes when it came to 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.760 actually being pro women, I copped it and I've had 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.800 to put up with the gas lighting, the lying, the scheming. 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.960 Props to her for even staying on the council, She's 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.679 still got to work with these people. 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:13.919 You know. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.960 The question it raises is how many other people who 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.520 have conservative ideas have been blocked from hiring council facilities. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.200 Because Louise Elliott, as an insider, fought this thing, went 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.479 to the Anti Discrimination Commission, had to wherewithal to know 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.560 how to handle things and how to do things. How 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.000 many other people without that background got denied the opportunity 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.560 to hire a hall and just said, oh, well, I 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.879 guess it's busy, when in fact it may not have 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.280 been busy. It was just someone at council who didn't 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.520 like their politics and decided, well we won't have you. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:42.840 Yeah. 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:43.160 Correct. 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.919 And that's the pernicious nature of all of this is that, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.520 you know, it's one thing to see protests, right, and 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.840 you've seen, particularly in Victoria, when they've tried to hold 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.080 pro women rallies on the steps of Parliament House, that 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.879 you then get the transgender mob rocks up with a 0:20:59.000 --> 0:20:59.920 counter protest. 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.679 The aggresses are never. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.720 The people who were there saying, you know, we care 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:08.400 about women's sport and women's spaces. It's always the pro 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.560 transgender mob that rocks up and is willing for a fight. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.800 They want the fighting is about them. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.240 Correct, correct, everything. 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.159 That's one thing, because that's very public. What is happening 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.879 here or what happened here? If it were for someone 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.639 like Louisianad actually finding out what was going on and 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.159 taking it on, no one would have had any idea 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.199 what it actually happened. And that's the worst part of 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.560 it all is that not only is the agenda being 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.640 run in public, the agenda is being run in private. 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.800 And like you say, how many other examples of it 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.520 might there be? And you wonder if it's happening in 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.439 Hobart City Council, you know, on what other levels of 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.640 government might this be happening. Could these decisions be made 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.760 not only at Hobart City Council but other councils around 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.000 the country. Could it be made about pieces of property 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.520 that are owned by state governments, for instance, or federal 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.920 governments or whatever? Are they secret? Making these decisions. Are 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.480 their policies or whatever the hind closed doors that they're 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.680 using to assess who can and cannot hire these places 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.159 on the basis of what. 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.320 They want to have the event for. 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.200 Like, you know, if you said I don't want to 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.000 neo Nazi rally there, I think we'd all agree with that. 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.280 But someone says, Okay, I want to have an event 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.639 talking about how great women are protecting women's spaces, and 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.080 that's the sort of thing that we don't allow. I 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.480 would be surprised if that's the only one on the list, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.840 and that if Hobart's City Council was the only place 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:29.439 that's doing it. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.200 Indeed, And if you think that's bad, check out this 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:38.920 council in La another council countwing Julie LGBTIQ lobby. 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.199 Check this out. I bet you did not know this 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:42.360 before tonight. 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:47.760 You turn signs are anti LGBTIQ. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:48.600 Check it out. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.320 Eli's city council members you Go, Soda Martinez and Nathia 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.960 Rahman were on hand today to help remove the signs 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.040 they see. The no cruising and no U turn signs 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.679 were put up in the nineteen nineties to prevent people 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:06.840 in the gay community from meeting up with other gay people, or. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.720 Maybe there's just a sign saying no U turn because 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.280 you can't chuck a U turn there. 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.320 I mean, this is radical news to me. But here's 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.040 one of the council people, nith. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.520 Ya Yaman, saying that these signs are indeed homophobic. 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.120 Los Angeles has a rich history of. 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:29.680 Welcoming the LGBTIQA plus community, but there has also been 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.760 real and present homophobia, which at times has been inscribed 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.600 into the city's physical spaces, as. 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.840 With these no U turn signs. Someone helped me out here. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:42.600 I am so confused. 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.600 We just talked about the facts that there is nothing 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.760 you can do that certain people won't make about themselves, 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.880 and now we have U turn signs. 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.159 That there's a story signs. 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.440 Back in the nineteen nineties in Silver Lake in Los Angeles, 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.960 there was a certain area where gay people would go 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.639 to hook up, and it was a residential area, and 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:05.040 people got sick of people cruising the streets looking for 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:09.200 a hookup, so the council put up signs saying no cruising. 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.480 In other words, when you drove through that area, you 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.760 had to drive through, keep on going. And I'll let 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.199 to turn around and come back and go up and 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.840 down the street looking for someone that was attractive to 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.879 you so that you could meet up with them for 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.159 purposes other than just saying hello. And so that was 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.000 in the nineteen nineties and since then, you know, that's 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.639 all ancient history. But someone was doing a podcast talking 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.399 about the history of the area and they mentioned on 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.199 the podcast that what I've just described was going on 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:36.960 in the nineties. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:41.000 Well, all of a sudden, the LGBT sign. They did 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.600 an order area. 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.880 And they found that there were eight signs that remained 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.840 from the nineteen nineties that were originally put there to 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.320 stop people cruising. The signs were not anti LGBTQ. They 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.520 were anti public sex and prostitution. 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.639 That's what they were. Because it has been built as 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.520 a win for the lgbt. 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.720 So surely two things could be true at once. It 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.800 can be entirely true that the signs are of very 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.840 little use now because those areas are no longer being 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:06.960 used as gay beats. 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.000 Only the eight that remain, maybe they are the eight 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:12.600 that are genuinely just. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.879 Know you they could be. But it's also true that 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.280 they're not homophobic, because it was simply about the fact 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.400 that there were lots of people gathering in those areas 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.280 that night. Now, if someone decided that they were going 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.159 to have a knitting club on the front of my 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.680 street between midnight and six am every day, and people 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.080 were going to come down doing laps seeing if they 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.280 could buy a knitted beanie from grannies, I'd be pretty 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.399 you know it about that, because they'd been keeping me 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.080 up all night. I don't care whether it's a knitting 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.920 club or they're gay, or it's a drug run. 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.960 If you've got people. 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.360 Gathering on a residential street every night doing lapse between 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.080 midnight and six a and of course you're going to 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.000 go to the council and have a sign put up 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.400 to say don't come here. It's got nothing to do 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.639 with the fact they're gay. 0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.520 You know, it's crazy gay. It always does. I've read 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.360 about this story in the LA time. So I'm reading 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.040 the article blah blah blah. And then you know, when 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.600 you get to the end of a newspaper article and 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.200 sometimes it has a photo of the journalist and it says, 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.960 you know, Caleb bond Sky News. At the end of 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.679 the article, it's got the name of the journalist and 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.800 it's got they them queer Asian American writer. This isn't 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.600 a special writer. This is just the local journalists. So 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.120 in Los Angeles this is a. 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:22.040 Very big deal. 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:27.920 It's not just street signs. Everybody, absolutely everybody. I don't 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.199 know if you guys have had this phenomena recently, but 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:31.320 I've had this a lot lately. 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.480 You turn signs in the street, well, it's to do. 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.399 With driving, but not for knitted beanies. When you're driving 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.080 through the streets, you stop an intersection and there will 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:39.400 be a car in front of me and I'm looking 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.200 at them, thinking it's not a Mazda, it's not a Toyota, 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:43.080 it's not a Ford. 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.760 And I've actually said to my kids, what is that car? 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.159 Because there are so many Chinese vehicles now with the 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.159 prevalence of electric vehicles BYD. I'd never heard of BYD, 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.120 but it's now the biggest selling electric vehicle in the world. 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:02.000 It's just overtaken Tesla. And of course even with Tesla's 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.640 now eighty percent of electric vehicles are manufactured in China. 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.720 Steve Price recently spoke on Sky News to Paul Grover. 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.240 He's a journalistic car expert. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.960 He explained just how many Chinese brand electric vehicles will 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.040 be in our roads over the next ten years. 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.639 Have listened by Mike Cout There'll be five or six 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:26.000 extra new Chinese brands on Australian soil selling here before 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.920 the end of the year. And I've got a long 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.439 term forecast from Maide of mine who's worked for a 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:31.520 long time as an import. 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:32.160 He said there. 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:36.280 Could be forty or fifty Chinese brands here by the 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:37.240 turn of the decade. 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.680 So forty or fifty brand new Chinese brands of EV's 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.119 by the end of the decade. 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.160 Have a look at this graph. 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.879 It shows you just what or how much of the 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.439 market the Chinese now have in electric vehicles. In twenty 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.960 twenty four, fifteen million evs sold, ten million of those 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.280 were Chinese brands. Now, you don't really care where your 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.360 car is manu factored. But there are some specific concerns 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.879 about the fact so many evs are made in China. 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.920 Number One, safety tends to be an issue because, as 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.760 we know, a lot of goods made in China are 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.760 made very quickly, they're made very cheaply, so safety is 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:14.320 a problem. 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:15.760 On top of that, you've. 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:20.199 Got security issues because of course evs are really just 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.639 computers on wheels. Now you've talked about data. I mean 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:28.360 they're collecting constant data. There's individual privacy and so there's 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.720 all of these issues. Now, is it a good thing 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.320 that so many of our vehicles are coming from China 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.000 when there are such concerns? 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.040 If you had told me when I was a child, 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.600 let alone when you were a child, that by the 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.120 time I was in my twenties we'd be getting around 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.200 in Chinese cars, I would have told you you were 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:46.719 an idiot. 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:47.000 Right. 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.320 It was, you know, Fording Holden and V eights and 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:51.120 how goods all of this. 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.240 Now we're going to get around in Chinese electric vehicles. 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.200 Now there's all the concerns about safety and where your 0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.400 data goes, etc. We've also got to consider that with 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.360 the proliferation of Chinese vehicles, and of course we've got 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.320 the Chinese premiere in the country at the moment, that 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.680 what China has done has noticed that there is a 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.320 hole in the market, right because evs at the moment 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.440 are hideously expensive in most cases, and so if you 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.640 want to enter the market, you're not willing to pay 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.200 for the tesli. You're not willing to pay for the 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.800 Persia or the Porsche or whatever it might be. So 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.800 you've got to come up with something that fits that 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.640 middle to working class market. And China has just rushed 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.120 in there before anyone else because of course they can 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.280 produce things cheaply in their country. 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:33.800 Very smart of them to do so. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.440 But once we start buying all of our vehicles from China, 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:42.520 it of course just boosts Chinese superpower as an economic superpower, 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.720 and then I don't know, what, do they just become 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.920 the entire car manufacturing. 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.320 Hub of the world. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.840 I mean a lot of the teslas that come to 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:54.080 Australia are already manufactured in China and they're expensive. Now 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.280 we're talking about these cheaper Chinese ones. And of course 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.560 all these vehicles, electric vehicles that are being made in China. 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.400 What do they have over there that powers their industry. 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.120 I'll let me think, Well, that's. 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:10.200 Right, Australian coal. So all this stuff that we dig 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.280 up out of the ground, be it metals or fossil 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.520 fuels or whatever, that we are selling to China because 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.920 we weren't burned here is what they are using over 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:24.680 there to create rampant, cheap industry that creates these vehicles 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.040 that they eventually sell back to us, because we believe 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.080 that that's then good for the environment, because we plug 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.200 them into the wall and fill them up with power 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.440 that comes from brown coal that have been burnt and 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.800 a rearing Wow, haven't we done ourselves? 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:43.920 Feel warm and fuzzy having absolutely shot ourselves in the 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.040 face with an elephant dart. 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.360 You've got to hand it to China. 0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.520 They're like, oh, yeah, let's seize on this whole zero 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.920 emission stuff that Western countries love it. We're still going 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.640 to build a coal fired power plant about once every fortnight, 0:30:58.760 --> 0:30:59.440 brand new one. 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:00.720 Ping, there it goes again. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.240 While these guys are carstrating their prosperity in the name 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:06.440 of zero. 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:07.680 So let's go. 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.080 Let's give them their evs cheap and crappy as they 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:11.360 may be. 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.480 They'll pay through the nose for it. We just get to. 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.480 Keep making money off these people. 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:17.400 Same goes for the. 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.280 Chinese solar panels. Oh, we're all buying out solar panels 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.960 from China. They themselves aren't doing a thing to get 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.320 their emissions down. 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.200 They in India being. 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:32.600 The biggest emitters in the world. No, no, they don't 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.640 care about that. They're just going to make money off 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:41.400 how stupid the Western world is pursuing this complete scam 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.080 that is zero emissions, whether it's by twenty to fifty 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.600 or by any other year. Check out this grab by 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.400 is it Christopher Hitchins. I always get the brothers mixed up. 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:56.840 Peter Hitchins talking about just how ridiculous it is the 0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:01.680 West bending over backwards to achieve these aims while we're 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.680 actually not really achieving anything at all. 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.360 The contribution which this country is making by what it's 0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.560 doing to these outcomes is not merely minimal, it's non existent. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.160 Everything that we do is completely blotted out by what 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:20.400 much larger countries are doing to maintain their own power. Now, 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.640 if you want to live in a country with net zero, 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:24.920 if you want to be in the country where nobody 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.400 can afford to heat their house, where people have incredibly 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.080 expensive and largely non functioning heat pumps inflicted on them, 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:37.320 then carry on believing that the demand to go for 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.960 net zero to keep it in the ground is intelligent 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:40.600 and thoughtful. 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.200 Now he's talking about the UK there, but here in 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.760 Australia we are responsible for one point three percent of 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:53.920 global emissions. It is not even a drop in the ocean, 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.600 and yet the extent that we're going to I just 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.600 you've got to applaud China on this, just being like 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.040 they're stupid enough to fall for it. We're just going 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.640 to keep manufacturing all this rubbish that they. 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:06.440 Think that they need. 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.560 Meanwhile, we've got a new call fired power plant going 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.120 up every five minutes. 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:12.880 Thanks for your call, Australia. 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.600 We are literally funding their prosper it ready by crucifying 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:18.000 our own. 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.200 Well, I mean, we're even twice as stupid as you say, 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.040 because not only are we funding their prosperity by crucifying 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.520 our own, but then the junk they're sending back to 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.280 us collects data on all of us. Yeah, I mean 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.280 you read about how the government officials meeting with the 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:36.320 Chinese premiere were given Berner phones in Australia because they 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:40.760 weren't confident that their data would not be hacked by 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.560 the Chinese delegation. So if we're doing that with our phones, 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.440 it raises the question once all of our cars are 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.800 manufactured in China, should military officials be allowed to drive 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:51.720 electric vehicles? 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.360 Should police be allowed to drive electric vehicles? 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.760 Should judges or politicians be allowed Because if it's collecting 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.040 where you're going. We talked about how insurance companies are 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.600 using facial recognition from your car to judge whether you're 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.400 falling asleep or et cetera, et cetera, how fast you're driving. 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.680 When they're collecting that much data, it starts to raise 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.520 the question who should be driving electric vehicles and who 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.560 ought not be because we don't want the Chinese to 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:17.359 know everything about them. 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.359 Well, any self respecting individuals should not be driving an 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:21.320 elit egle. 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.880 I mean, come on, they don't make any noise. A 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:24.480 plot twist. 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.799 The bernafones were huaweis no. I don't think they were 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.080 actually going to. 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.680 Be pretty funny if they were. 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.359 China's the la laugh. 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.080 Here's something else China can build for us. Have about 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.759 a few offshore wind farms, so we know down in 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.160 Victoria they were talking about this was going to be 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:41.120 the next big thing. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.120 They had this big territory off the coast. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:45.640 Of Victoria and South Australia that was going to be 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.439 this big offshore wind farm zone. And then that sort 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.239 of been shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and shrinking because 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.000 they've kind of worked out that it's not worth investing 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:54.520 in but not. 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.320 So in New South Wales. 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.560 There's a big wind farm's going to go off the 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.279 coast of Little Warror here in New South Wales. Has 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.520 been approved over the weekend by the federal government. The 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.239 locals are up in arms because this thing will be 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.760 twenty odd kilometers offshore, but they're two hundred and sixty 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:17.239 meters tall, these wind turbines. One wonders whether it will 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.400 be manufactured in China and sent to us. He is 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:25.080 the great Energy Minister, Casanova Bowen, foreshadowing that all of 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:25.880 this was going to happen. 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.239 Industries like Blue Scope need renewable energy and lots of it, 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.320 and need constant renewable energy. 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:38.200 Offshore wind is exactly that constant renewable energy. Well, thankfully, 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.399 the coalition has promised that if they were elected at 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.560 the next federal election, which of course is highly unlikely, 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.920 but we appreciate the promise anyway, that they would scrap 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.640 the project, and rightly so. I mean, you can understand why. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.800 You'd be a bit peeved. 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.840 You go down to the beach and you sit in 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.680 there having your fish and chips, and your kids. 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.839 Like daddy, what s they're out there? 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:07.000 That's just a bird incinerator, that thing. And apparently it 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.440 affects the whales as well, because of course it admits 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.480 all these electropulses and stuff, and. 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.120 It's right in the middle of a migration. 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:13.560 Yeah. 0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.359 Yeah, thousand whales every year migrate through that ERAa. 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.000 So it's great for the environment, right. 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:23.040 And I had Gary Hardgrave on Credlin earlier tonight and 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.680 he said it, you know, it wasn't about the environment, 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.560 it was about murdering Miggeloo. 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.640 Was such a good line. Well. 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.280 Fiona Phillips, she's a local MP, so she was boasting 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.960 on Facebook about how many jobs this offshore wind project 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.440 would create and lo and behold. If you look at 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.960 her Facebook page, the comments are not particularly complimentary. 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.120 I love all the coalitions getting faster though, just swatting 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.400 these bags. Sooner have they announced as you pure object 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.440 and Dunton's like and will be canceling that should we 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.920 get in. Just ride the way the fury to be like, 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.160 vote liberal, it won't happen. 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.799 Literally ride the wave all the twenty kilometers out to 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.920 the well. 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.680 We're going to go to a break. But before we do, 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.360 we've got an opportunity for you. It's the opportunity to 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.040 ask us anything that's right. You can ask Liz Kleb 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.960 myself anything you want to know within question, within reason 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.480 of course, and we will answer those questions. You'll be 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.360 able to see the answers on your Sky News app 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.840 if you subscribe, so you can send your questions through 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:29.440 to ask me Anything at skynews dot com dot Au. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.880 We'll answer those questions later in the week and that 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.520 will all be available on the app. Stick around when 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.360 we come back. Look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.680 Welcome back. 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.600 Well, we were all pretty happy with our jobs here 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.440 at Sky News until we saw the front page of 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.600 tomorrow's Canberra Times. 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:51.480 Liz read it and weep, you guys. The spread reads 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.080 aps bosses on. 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.600 Their way to one million dollar salaries. 0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.200 Tell us more, several public service bosses are we in 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.399 touching distance. Touching distance seems a weird way to put 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.320 it of joining the first of their cohort to pass 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.760 the million dollar salary mark thanks to a three point 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.880 five percent pay rise. Three point five percent doesn't sound 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.160 like much until the next power tells you the public 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.480 service's highest paid secretary will get a pay bump of 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:29.200 about thirty four thousand dollars on July first. So these 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:33.360 are people, they're public servants, Okay, these are the people 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.280 who get to make decisions, very real decisions that affect 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.880 you and I on a daily basis. You and I 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.840 being the people who are basically bleeding out of every 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.160 orifice just trying to make it through this cost of 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.239 living crisis without beating. 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.280 Down food bank store. 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:55.200 And these people, we wonder why they're so out of 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.359 touch with what every day Australians want and need out 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:03.080 of the policy they make, they create and they do 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.359 not have to suffer through the consequences of what. 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.120 On a million dollars a year. They're out of touch 0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:07.960 with the Prime minister. 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.279 He's only on about five hundred and sixty grand. 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.719 Yeah, yeah, five eighty six, nine fifty. I think it 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.280 is as of all people, what can. 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:19.160 They possibly be doing, Caleb to genuinely deserve this kind 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:19.680 of money. 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.080 Well, look, the reason they're paid that money is of 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.239 course because they're competing with the private sector as well 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.160 in terms of trying to find people who want. 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:28.360 To head up these departments. 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.920 But it really is You've got to ask the question 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.120 if the bloke who is calling all the shots or 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.640 some of the shots. The Prime Minister is on five 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.040 hundred and eighty six odd k and then of course 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.400 his ministers, who are technically in charge of these departments. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.839 The minister makes the decisions that the staff and the 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.120 secretaries of those departments then execute, So the minister is 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.360 on at least half less money than the bloke that 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.279 he then goes off. 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.359 All the women for that matter, or the non barnary persons. 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.680 Goes off too, and says the this is the job 0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.719 you have to do, like you shouldn't the minister be 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:04.399 on that money. 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.200 The minister is the one who has to make all. 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.200 The calls for a massive pay rise for all of 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.320 our empty It doesn't. 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.120 Quite work that way, because it's the bureaucrats in these 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.440 departments who go to the minister, who usually knows like 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:23.279 nothing about their actual ministry, and tells them this is 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.719 the plan. Well that is that is The ministers can 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.520 tweak it, they've got a rubber stamp it, but even 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.160 at that point they don't know what that is. Me 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.200 that is as we see daily through the likes of 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:35.840 Jarles and Claire. 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.880 But it is O'Neill, clear, clar O'Neal, I even deserve 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:46.200 for mitigation now henceforth being known on this program neilo clear. 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.640 But look, all I can say is that I wouldn't 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.239 mind getting within touching distance of a public servant on 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.040 a million dollars a year, because I may well be 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:54.920 able to put my hand in their back pocket and 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.239 take their wallet and I can have a good night 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:01.400 at the public Let's go to the OS tomorrow where 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.040 on the theme of people getting good pay rise, as 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:08.120 it says here, Setka's members win twenty one percent Payray 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:09.960 you thought it was pretty good over at the public 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:14.360 service three and a half Charlie, thousands of CFM you 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.640 members in Melbourne have endorsed a new patent pay deal 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.880 that delivers twenty one percent in wage rises over four years, 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.720 reinstates a host of conditions scrapped under the coalition's building code, 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.680 including mandatory union. 0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.520 Flags on every project, and. 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.480 Allows union officials to intersites without illegal permit if they 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:37.040 are invited by an employer. Isn't this good news for 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:41.360 the cf emmy you. They're also getting funeral cover between 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.160 nine thousand and fifteen thousand dollars for their family should 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.359 they ever need that. They're going to get back pay 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.800 in the whole lot. But I just love this quote 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.080 from a punter or a member of the union who 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.280 was at the vote today says, you're applauding the pay rises. 0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:00.319 One member told the meeting twenty percent pay rises over 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:01.120 four years. 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:02.320 There's not enough. 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:06.000 Ford Rangers in the country to buy the apprentices will 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:11.120 have for raptors. You know, I'm not surprised they can't 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.960 contain their excitement. But you know, off the back of 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.360 Setka going off to threaten the AFL, he's just managed 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.280 to deliver a twenty one percent pay rise for his members. 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.160 Well, the other thing he did was he defended lollipop 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.359 sign holders earning two hundred thousand dollars a year, saying 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.799 they work incredibly hard and those who criticize them are 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.800 people who go home watch cartoons at three thirty in 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.600 the afternoon quote unquote. But there was a little bit 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.440 of upset from some union members at this meeting, according 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.240 to The Australian, who devastated to learn that in certain 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.799 circumstances when it's raining, they will be required to do 0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.919 alternative duties rather than be allowed to go home. 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.520 And so that was quite upsetting for some of them. 0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.080 Occupational health safety, No twenty. 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.640 One percent pay rise, but may have to do alternate work. 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.799 Twenty one percent pay rise, but no cartoons at three 0:42:58.800 --> 0:42:59.920 point thirty in the afternoon. 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:01.200 Unacceptable. 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.920 Now the story on the front of the Ears tomorrow. 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.600 Coalition to do whatever it can to avoid large scale renewables. 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.400 Oh music to my ears. 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.720 National's leader David Little Proud and so a coalition government 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.520 will look at alternative energy sources so it doesn't have 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.880 to pursue large scale renewables such as wind and sol 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:23.040 after suggesting he would acts an offshore wind industry if elected. 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.560 Quite right, Quite right again, I kind of wish that 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.439 this would mean that, you know, there'd be a change 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.480 of government, even though I know that's not likely. But 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.200 this stuff is starting to get through. If you look 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.719 at that Resolve poll that came out yesterday in the 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.120 nine papers, I mean, for heaven's sake. According to that pole, 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.759 Labor has had its lowest ever primary vote in the 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.640 history of that poll, which has been running since twenty nineteen. 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.400 We are actually starting to get a little bit of cut. 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:50.080 Through on this message. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:50.279 We know. 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.160 The other interesting thing from that pole is on the 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.560 question who do you trust? On the environment, The ALP 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.440 got twenty four percent, the Coalition got twenty two percent. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.680 It used to be a fifteen point difference between the 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.440 two parties. Now it's down to a two point difference. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.280 So the environment that used to be a great advantage 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.480 for the ALP not so much anymore. 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.000 Yeah, and the resolve polling was even funnier. 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.160 So there was fifteen issues, and they're like grade which 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.080 party is better on each of these issues? 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.000 The Libs one twelve. 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:24.040 Out of fifteen, and the three that the Labor got 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.600 across the line, they were all just like indigenous issues, 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.520 not like purse string issues, the economy, national security. The 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.000 Libs were just like tic tic tic tic tick, and 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:38.080 labours like indigenous issues and the climate. 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:39.560 And they did so well. 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.800 Remember what the third one was, but I was laughing. 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.080 So they did so well on indigenous issues that they 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.560 managed to deliver the voice. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:46.359 To Parliament, didn't they? 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:46.759 Oh? 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:47.960 Wait, no they didn't. 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.480 And then forget all about it. 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.719 Let's go to the front page of the Herald's son 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:56.440 exclusive police search powers, boost to tackle home raids, scourge 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.720 knives outreads the headline please will be given increased powers 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.960 to conduct random and targeted weapons searchers to crack down 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.880 on a surge in knife crime. We all know knife 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.520 crimes a massive problem around the country, particularly in Victoria. 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.040 In fact, in twelve months there were thirty people stabbed, 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.400 threatened or robbed at knife point at three Victorian or 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.279 rather Melbourne train stations, including a twelve year old girl 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.640 who stabbed a thirty seven year old woman to death. 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.319 So police want powers awelve year old twelve year old girl. 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:27.920 Yeah, it's currently in court. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.720 They're trying to work out whether she's capable of morally 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:33.000 understanding it was wrong. 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.520 So it's a big issue. 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.800 I think police should have powers to search young people, 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.840 particularly in areas where it's known that knife crime. 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:42.280 Is an issue. 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.239 Yeah, look, I don't it's a great idea, Sure, go 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:46.640 for it. 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:47.880 I don't know how. 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.040 Much of a difference it's going to mate though. I mean, 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.440 in the circumstances which you just described, how would this 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.960 have made a difference. If someone is carrying a concealed weapon, 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.360 they can whip it out at any time and whoever 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:00.040 they're victim. 0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:02.360 Is is done for in that moment. 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.040 But look, if cops think they might be able to 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.759 catch the odd person out concealed carry when they do 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:09.880 raids or whatever. 0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.440 It's a bit needle in a haystack. I think it 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.600 is the biggest problem. You hope to catch them out, 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:15.960 but do you really utn't know. 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.240 We're going to go to a break when we come back. 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:22.160 Joe Biden literally freezes on stage at a Democrat fundraiser 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:28.640 that's coming up in just a moment, welcome back. Well, 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.839 there was a fundraising event to raise money for Joe 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.320 Biden's reelection campaign on Saturday night. Thirty million dollars was raised, 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.000 though those who donated might be wondering if it was 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:42.360 a wise investment because after being interviewed with Barack Obama, 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.880 both gentlemen stood up and the US President Joe Biden 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:50.080 literally froze. Had to be nannied off stage by Barack. 0:46:50.120 --> 0:47:16.319 Have a look. I love it how Obama puts his 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.160 arm around Joe like, oh weit just mate, Really is 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.439 actually this way this way of man this way now. 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.240 Of course, there's a debate coming up shortly between Biden 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:30.040 and Trump. Have listened to this MSNBC host talk about 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.919 the fact that it's so unfair to Biden because he's 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.719 going to be judged so harshly, like. 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.040 People are going to want to know, is he alive? 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.040 Can he even talk? Have listened? 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:40.279 You know? 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.800 The first presidential debate is set for June twenty seventh. 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.799 That already feels like the bar that has set for 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.239 Biden to clear is so much more substantially, so much 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.759 substantially higher than the one Trump has to clear, which 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.400 is literally, is he alive? 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:53.440 Is he standing? 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.120 Are the words coming out of his mouth setting aside 0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:57.960 of what the words actually are? And I just I 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.360 wonder if there's any way for Biden to overcome what 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:05.120 seems like a structural disadvantage on you know, in the 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.480 weeks leading up to what's going to be a pretty 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.520 important inflection point in this campaign. 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.319 Listen, I would have thought having a pulse is a 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:13.120 fairly low bar. 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:19.399 Really, it's a structural disadvantage. Okay, Oh my gosh, those 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:23.400 guys shilling for the Dems. It never gets tired, It 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:24.480 does get tiresome. 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.880 Let's be serious. I am on this show too, Liz. 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.959 You know, I thought, after hosting Credline the Sea, no no, no, 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.080 no no, I'm going to make he does just talk 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:34.640 for both. 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.879 I've got to be fair to that woman. He does 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:38.560 have a structural disadvantage. 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.280 It's in the structure of his brain. It's not there. 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.000 It's mash per Sato. 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.560 That's the structural disadvantage. And you watch Biden there on 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.840 stage having to be carted off and the music in 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.120 the background. It's a bit like he's on an episode 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.520 of This Is Your Life, except in his case. You know, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.239 normally you go along to This is Your Life and 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.080 they bring out all these people from your. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.920 Your past and you're like, oh my god, I haven't 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:04.800 seen you for so many years. 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.319 Joe Biden has to go on an episode of This 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.040 is Your Life to be reminded of what he's actually 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.360 done in his life so he can go to the 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.920 debate and talk with some level of sincerity. 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.800 Well, that's all we've got time for, but don't go anywhere. 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.640 Coming right up is Ritapinas.