1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to hour. I was thirty sixty Rugby League from 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: every angle, brought to you by Ford Everest joining me 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: the Great Gordon. Today let's been a jonat Australian James 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Hooper and Brent Reid. Let's address yellow fan in the 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: room here. Now you're saying that Brent Reed's a part 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: time but what queens Landing supporter. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: I just realized with the whole build up, the state 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: of origin, that we're outnumbered, and we're desperately outnumbered. And 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: I was talking about queens and the chief writer for 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: the career mal he's in New South Welshman he's from 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: a rever Ben Dobbin, the Channel nine guy, he's from 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: New South Wales. And they brought up Riddy's name and 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: I said, he's a part time Queenslanders. 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 3: How often I sat in this very seat, that's very 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: desk and defended Queensland. Stuck Gordio. I heard that was 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: in sold the boy to be honest. What I was, yeah, 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: because you know my Queens. Let's believe marine man from Good. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 3: Now you don't getting more Queens than the Good. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: That's probably the hard time prep talk that you needed, 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: really blue shirt like the Marine shirt. Yeah. 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Really, so you're in the Northern Beaches driving your tesla. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: You didn't have an accident an okay, okay, up. 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: I thought you might have been on radio together. 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: Mate. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: I thought this time of year we're going to stick together. 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: They're trying to divide us in Hope. So you've divided 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: us now, No, I haven't divided. 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Do you think there's no support for Queensland journals? No, 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: Well we're lacking journalists. 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: So there's crash Kraatic and he's mainly a cricket rider, 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: and there's Ready. So we've only got two and it's. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 5: Queenslander. 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: Well in the paper Wonder he tipped New South Wales, 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm talking. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: I've never but Gorgias. People will never dip against it. 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 7: There's plenty of other people who work in the media 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 7: who are from Queensland as well. Some of the biggest 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 7: figures in the game of on Sampson Melbourne Ingo Cooper Crawl. 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I said, journalists. There's I'm talking about journalists. 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: Do you think. 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: X players are fine? Okay, ex players, we just we're 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: just out numbers with journalists. You see Dog coming on 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: Bullfrog yourself, Buzz. There's Ricky car. 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Go on to the other side. 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're happen to come on three I'm happy to 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: come on three nights a week. 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Really, you start to eat 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: your own here, boys, it's not very good sport. He 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: kicked it. It's just a pep talk. He's on our side. 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Let's get to the big news, the footing. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: Now. 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: Mitch Maes has ruled out Jerome Lewi has moved into 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: the team. It happened after in all three sixty last week. 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: Is this the right decision? I think it's the only decision. Broke. 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: I think you know Jerome was the obvious guy, so 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: he obviously beat was there last year, was unlucky to 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: miss out one for the team Froude, and one knows 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: Nathan plays with all those penrith guys. I don't think 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: there was any other choice. 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: He was the the. 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 7: It's a no brainer. But at the same time, I 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 7: do think that New South Wales lose a little bit. 64 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 7: I thought in the opening game of the series where 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 7: Mitch was great was when Nathan didn't have comployed control 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 7: of the game earlier and Mitch started running the football 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 7: and presented a real threat His kicking game is the 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 7: best kicking game, hands down in the competition. They're different 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 7: styles of five eight Broath, you'd know that. 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: I think the next number six they gained. Well, we've 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: got cohesion with the combination there, the Pendeth combination, you 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: know Edwards, Lewi and Cleary. We know that, and they've 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: had a successful combination. He kind of had to because Louis, 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: like ready said, was very unlucky, not if you actually 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: peel it all back, very unlucky not to make it 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: in the first place. I mean, he almost won them 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: this series. His combination with Moses, especially game threw up 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: at sun Corpse Stadium. They lose that long kicking game, 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: which was great in game one and probably went under 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: the radar a little bit, like they would not had 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: no problem getting out of their own end because they 82 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: had both Cleary and Moses. Lou Is still a great kickout, 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: very good short kicking game, very unpredictable, can create something 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: out and nothing, which in Game one they didn't create 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: too many opportunities. So he adds value in that department. 86 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's a really good decision. Matt Burton. 87 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for you know, like I feel sorry 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: for because he deserves especially after last week's performance. 89 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: But do we need to change the rules like if 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: you're not in the top twenty or does that ruin 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: because you're the best players, don't. 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: You have enough pressure on the rules will change? But Gordy, 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: I think you said something between when you were bagging 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: me and woods He. I think a radio on the weekend. 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: Okay, we address that can get you fired back at 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: woods He because they. 97 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Went back home right after show on Wednesday in Queensland. 98 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: They were filthy that he had a crack in our coach. 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: I thought got a bit of stick up for him. 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: So that's what I thought, Really, are you on my side? 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Are you in the trenches with us? 102 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: That's Cordy agreed with him comments about I think he 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: was having a bit of fun. 104 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: I don't mind what woulds you did, Billy. Billy is 105 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: welcome and fire back, woulds He? I would love Billy 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: to fire back at Woodsy, But I'm happy to fire 107 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 3: back on Billy's behalf as you were, Gordy. 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 5: But I think. 109 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 8: You did well. 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: Where was I going to fly back? 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 5: You're on a hundred platforms. 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: I didn't stick up for Billy in the paper on Saturday. 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: I was going to say, Gordy, as I said in 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: between between bagging man Woodsi, I think you raised the 115 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: point in the weekends said what they lose with Mitch 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: now is the Queens Queensland defenders can focus on Nathan 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: Cleary with his kicking game, right, they don't have to 118 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: worry about Mitch Moses kicking game. 119 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: You really only one kick dominantly, but he's a left 120 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: foot kicker. 121 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: So like there's a there's sort of like a positive positive, 122 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: there's no real negative getting lu there, but. 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: It's just a different well the village for Queens there. 124 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Now they didn't anime up in the in their power 125 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: right in game one. If they do aim up now 126 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: there is more pressure on the Blues because even though 127 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the Blues aimed up game one and there they're forwards 128 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: clearly dominated Queens. Then if they get on the back foot, 129 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: he's so hard getting out of your own and ended 130 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: with you know, Moses and Cleary was an easy out, 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: whereas we just now, as you said, the emphasis will 132 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: be on Clearing, it'll be more kick pressure on Cleary, 133 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: but they can still use Loui and he's no mark. 134 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: He's got a really good kicking game. But you're right, 135 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: there is more focus on that now. Gus believes that 136 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: Billy may start with Kurt Man and bring Harry off 137 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: the bench. What do you guys think the. 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: Part time. 139 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: Codd is the man to do that job. He's played hooker, Okay, 140 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: I think that. I think I don't think Harry will 141 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: start the game. I think that the record, I think 142 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: we've shanned it a couple of times now, the record 143 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: with Harry coming off the bench, I think that it's 144 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: a lot better than when Harry start. Think that the 145 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: record with Harry starts is going for Here's Ruben Cotter, 146 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: one of the great hookers from way back when, and 147 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: I think Reuben's named on edge. I don't think Reuben 148 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: will start the edge. I think Nana will start in 149 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: the edge. Caught her into hooker, and I think that's 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: a much so. 151 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: You still have. 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 8: Just got around. 153 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I think it's an option you'd start with kind of 154 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: more so than me, and I think I think so. 155 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: I think what about Gus. Gus is very well says 156 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: he's well connected in the game. 157 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: Do you think he's ring his bulldogs players say good luck, 158 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: enjoy the camp maybe or as a stir in the 159 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: pot most successful coach. 160 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: I would suspect he's more trying to stir the pot 161 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: hoops and that's what he does. 162 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 7: He loves doing this time, were you ring Billy and 163 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 7: tell him that you've got the blueprint for Reuben Cotter and. 164 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: Billy watches the show? 165 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 8: Now, I'll said it enough. 166 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Another big question for Queensland is will they kick off 167 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: to Spenceerllen. 168 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 8: You well, I wouldn't know. 169 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: I wouldn't kick Twin. 170 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: You're staying strong with that. 171 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Because I think we're under his skin now you're having 172 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: a bad show. 173 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 5: Now, how can you keep. 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: Us that's what he wants undecided? Well, don't give him 175 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: what he wants because he wants us to kick twin. 176 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Don't kick? What about what Queensland wants? 177 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 8: Do you ever that one smash blew up with you 178 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 8: when you're on the side recalling the history In. 179 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 7: The history of the game, I actually cannot recall a 180 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 7: team deliberately avoiding kicking to a front roll. 181 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's. 182 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: When in Origin starts. 183 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: You're talking about starters now from the parts on queens 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: And I'm going to have to should they kick off 185 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: this Spensylania. Yeah, I think so it all depends. No, No, 186 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: it all depends where we are in the game both 187 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: you know. I mean like when. 188 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: Spudan Chief and like all the agents, but they were 189 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: on the field for forty five minutes together or whatever. 190 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: So it all depends how we're going if we're in 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: a level pegging or if we're up on a school 192 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: board and he comes on. 193 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely what it's the difference in this because we. 194 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Were under the pump, like watching it live, we were 195 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: actually under the pump. We were get now played and 196 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: it's like we were holding on just by the skin 197 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: of our teeth. So if you're on the game, you're 198 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: not kicking the win. Why I can change. I played 199 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: with Wendall Sailor. No one kick to him as a player. 200 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: I never one kicks to the strong ball carriers in 201 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: trust me. But it's in generally kick you kick to 202 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: the best. 203 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: It's all statement, but it's not. It's not the like, 204 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: if we need to make a statement, we will. I 205 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 2: didn't think it was I didn't think it was that 206 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: big life. I thought this is funny, so I wanted 207 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: to watch it, and then when we didn't, I actually 208 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: thought that's cool, right, because then he just blew up 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: and he run and he had to run an extra 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. I didn't think it was as big 211 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: as what was made out. But if it is, and 212 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: they wanted, I reckon, we. 213 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Kick off to it. But as who's on and all 214 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: the big boys are on, I. 215 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: Reckon, we go on with God. 216 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: It depends on the context of the game. Probably, yeah, 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: I think Queensin's got the upper hand. Why would you 218 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: boy the kicking to him? But if you need some 219 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 3: lift during that game, or someone to inspire, maybe you 220 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: kick it to him rundown smashing assage as you can 221 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: and maybe they can't. 222 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 5: You send a message and maybe at the time deliberately 223 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: try to. 224 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you don't need to know it's maybe winning him. 225 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: You don't need to send a message already on top 226 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: it is a negative kick reckon. 227 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's lie now, it's a blues utility. 228 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: Connor Watson on the Goo, True Blue, Mike Connor, thanks 229 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: to coming on the show. You've arrived in Perth. It's 230 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: only two nights away. Now, how have you guys settled in? 231 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: Hey, baith, Yeah, it's been good. It's been a good 232 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: couple of days in Perth so far. Had a probably 233 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: our biggest training session today, so the boys went well 234 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: trained against a sort of combined WA Rep side as 235 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: well as some. 236 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 8: Of the Force boys say it was a good session. 237 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, last week big news with Mitch Moses been ruled out. 238 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Jerome Luhite comes in. How has Jerome settled in and 239 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: how's the team going with him? At five eight? 240 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Jerome, he hasn't missed the beat mate. 241 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: As soon as he come in he was so sharp 242 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, everyone sort of knows 243 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 4: what they're going to get from him. He's done it 244 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 4: at this level for a very long time. And you know, 245 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: it's disappointing to lose Mitch, but to have to be 246 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: in a position where we can get a guy like 247 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: Jerome to come in, it's very fortunate. And yeah he's 248 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: come back in and yeah, his energy and you know 249 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: all the chat that he brings, it's been good to 250 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: have back in camp. 251 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: Hey Connor, mate, you're in a star started side. Has 252 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: anybody really impressed you? Is there someone in the camp 253 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: that you've looked at and have surprised you? 254 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: Hey? 255 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: Mate? 256 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like just being in this camp. 257 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: I remember last year coming in and just seeing the 258 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: way that different guys approach the game, you know, even 259 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: just training their attitude because big part of the week, 260 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: as you know, Gordy is like you only get ten 261 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: days and then you've got to go out and play 262 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: with these guys that some of them you haven't played 263 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: with before. 264 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 8: So the big part of his connection and for some 265 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 8: of those guys to just you know, have so. 266 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: Much fun away from the field, but then as soon 267 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: as they get to training, Yeah, they just completely change 268 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: their personality and just totally lock in. And you know, 269 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: I just spoke about Jerome like he's a big guy 270 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: who does that bis our creator. All these guys that 271 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: are very you know, sort of loud and great energy 272 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: to be around as teammates, but then as soon as 273 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: they get onto the training field, they really just flick 274 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: a switch. But I mean, I'll be impressed impressed by 275 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: all the guys. You know, there's a great work ethic here. 276 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 8: It's been good. 277 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: Like Nathan didn't play last year, get to play with 278 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 4: him in game one and sort of see how he 279 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: prepares because we all know what he's done in the game, 280 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: and you can you can see through his preparation. 281 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 8: Whey, he's such an elite player. 282 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 5: Connor. It's James Hooper. 283 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 7: We were just talking before you came on the show 284 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 7: about whether the Marines will kick off to Spencer Lenu 285 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 7: or not. How Spencer been in camp and do you 286 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 7: think that Coinsland will kick it to the big fellow? 287 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 8: Hey, James, I'm I'm not too sure if they'll kick 288 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 8: to him or not. 289 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: Mate. 290 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Spencer's been great. He's like, I'm lucky enough I 291 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: get to play with him at the Roosters every week, 292 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: and I know what's such like what he brings so 293 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: much energy to the game. We all saw sort of 294 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: Round one like him running out Game one, so running 295 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: down the sideline, and I'm just lucky nowadays that I 296 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: don't have to tackle him anymore, because I remember when 297 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: I versed him at penrifies to just think this guy 298 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: is the hardest bloke ever to tackle. So lucky he's 299 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: on my team. And whether they kick to him or not, 300 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: I don't really know, but I know Spence will be 301 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: doing doing his best. And if I don't kick to him, 302 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure we were there Play two. 303 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 8: Or three running and it's Adams. 304 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Connor, Brent Reid, you're obviously in Perth bigging 305 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: out announcement with Perth coming to the Conferent a couple 306 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: of years. What's the vibe like over there? What's the 307 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 3: feeld like? 308 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: Hey? Ready, Yeah, it's been good mate, Like we sort 309 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: of haven't got out and been able to do too much, like, 310 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: but we went to the HbF Park I think it 311 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: was today and trained and it's a great facility there. 312 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 8: I'm not sure if. 313 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 4: That's where the Perth Bears will play out of, but 314 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: we played there last year for the Roosters against the 315 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: Dolphins and it was a great atmosphere. 316 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure it was sold out and I can 317 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 8: just remember like how good the deck was there. So 318 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 8: they're certainly going to have a great place. 319 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: To play football as far as that, like, we'll get 320 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: out to Optus tomorrow see what that's like, and then 321 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure over the next couple of days there will 322 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: be a bit more of an atmosphere building in Perth. 323 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 8: But at the moment it's been pretty chilled. 324 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: Hey Connor, just the local boys that you did the 325 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: scrimmage again, what was that quality? 326 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Like the much talent there? Yeah? 327 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I think it was like a local first 328 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: grade rep team plus you know a few of those 329 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: Force Academy guys. 330 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 8: But yeah, they were good matey. 331 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: I was talking to them after they played an interstate 332 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: comp I think maybe against Northern Territory, South Australia and 333 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: Victoria last week, so those guys actually won that, so yeah, 334 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: they are a good quality mate And then having those 335 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: Perth got the Force guys as well come in or 336 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: it helped, you know, just having those guys that are 337 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: in a professional environment just sort of a few more 338 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: of the wingers and I think one of their halfbacks 339 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: jumped in and played hooker for him. So we got 340 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: what we needed to out of the session made. And yeah, 341 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: just looking forward to Wednesday now. Well kind of thanks 342 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: for joining us. You're looking as beautiful as always, and 343 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: good luck on Wednesday night getting that series win. Thank 344 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: you Brath there is I can't see you, but I'm 345 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: sure you're looking beautiful too, mate. 346 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: We have plenty to prove. After your State of Origin dumping, 347 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: all eyes were on DC has mainly looked for an 348 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: easy win over the Titans, but old Daisy Hasla flipped 349 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: the script and sent the Seagulls crashing back to earth. 350 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 8: There is fresh on both teams. 351 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: Nine manly Seagulls at the start of this season looks 352 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: like they were shooting for the top four and they 353 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: need to bounce back. 354 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 8: What's DC you do tonight? 355 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: I think he take number. 356 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: Three and Garrick will ever cracked. 357 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 8: I'm would have Scott to me say quick cool. 358 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Don't defends demon camp stevens on for Jimmy Evans. 359 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 8: Opportunity knocks Kembrick for a second and thus pass. Kevin 360 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 8: Raps knocks down the front door. Lets that with Tampa. 361 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 8: Let's Titans play. 362 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: Major of Sam Walker said, that's his belief that the 363 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: resters have gone cold on signing for next year. 364 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: You are able to give us a comment, No, I'm not. 365 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: I don't sort of understand that stuff. Be silly for 366 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: me to be worrying about stuff like that. 367 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 8: For it, color Ball, candle in and away, a lot 368 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 8: of Scott's Gold Coast in a hell of a turnaround 369 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 8: for the times they have turned up at thought time. 370 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 8: It's a big win of the Gold Coast, a. 371 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Very own bullfrog. Richie's all over it with a Daly 372 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Telegraph and he's written this story. Seagulls home crisis talks 373 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: in response to growing fan outrage, hoops, what's going on here? 374 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 7: That it's the bullfrog is on the money, he is 375 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 7: and Dogg is very well tapped in on the Northern Beaches. 376 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 7: He's been up there for a long time. And there 377 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 7: are a lot of issues. There is a hell of 378 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 7: a lot going on at the Manly Seagulls at the moment. 379 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 7: So the daily Cherry Evans decision earlier in the year 380 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 7: has not sat well with Jake Traboyovich. I don't think 381 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 7: those two are ever going to go for a beer 382 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 7: or spend a lot of time together in the future. 383 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 7: You've got Anthony sebald as the head coach, and some 384 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 7: rumblings that his style nothing personal, but just the way 385 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 7: that he presents the tactical periodization, the spreadsheets, all of 386 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 7: that thing for what the game plans that they're devising, 387 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 7: that there's some holes in those and that some of 388 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 7: the players aren't entirely invested in all of that. And 389 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 7: then you've got Jake as well, who is off contract 390 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: at the end of twenty six, who's getting closer to 391 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 7: the end that he is to the start. 392 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on, really So have you 393 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: heard this friction there because they are the most inconsistent 394 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: team this year by by a long one. I mean 395 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: between the players, both, yes, or just even players and 396 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: coaching stuff, whatever it may be, because management, it doesn't 397 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: seem right the way they're performing given the roster they've got. 398 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt that's friction there. I think we 399 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: all saw Jake's reaction after Daly came out and announced 400 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: to us leaving at the end of the year. I 401 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: think you tell from that there was friction there. And 402 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 3: they've never been particularly close to those guys. I mean, 403 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: Tommy and Jake and Daly, they've got they've had a 404 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: good working relationship, but I wouldn't say they're great mates 405 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: off the field. I think that's well known. So you 406 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: know that certainly strained the relationship. And I think we've 407 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: seen since Daily made that announcement, the team has struggled, 408 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: and Daily struggled himself. So I don't think there's any 409 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: doubt that's been an issue. Broth Hoops mentioned concerns with 410 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: Sieves and some players that those rumors have been around 411 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: for a while. 412 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 413 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: My gut feeling is they're a little bit overblown. I 414 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: don't think again, I think I don't think they are. 415 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 7: I think I'm not saying it's the majority of the group, 416 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 7: but I'm saying I've spoke to enough people today. I've 417 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 7: spoke to enough people well, of course the last couple 418 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 7: of months. I think there is something. 419 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: I think the bigger issues on the field the relationship 420 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: and the way they are on the field. I think 421 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: that's pretty evident. And Hoops mentioned some of the issues 422 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: there and the one he left out was Tommy. And 423 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: you know the way Tommy's going at the moment. Obviously 424 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: he's had that. I know you dug around this as 425 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: well today, Hoops. He's obviously had that cork thigh, which 426 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: is a favor well turned I'm told the way it 427 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: unfather was he had a cork thigh that turned into 428 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: a hamstring tightness. So there was work some concerns around 429 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: the hamstring as well. So that's the other issue. Because 430 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: he's off the same off contract at the same time 431 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: as Jake, obviously they've got to work their way through that. 432 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: They're juggling a lot of balls at the moment, mainly 433 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 3: and this they got to buy this week. They've got 434 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: two weeks. They've got to sort it out. 435 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: Are they afraid to say it was a hamstrings? 436 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: That with you? Well, I don't know, I for fraid. 437 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: So I think they were trying to protect Tommy because 438 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: obviously a lot of the talk around Tommy's hamstrings and injuries. 439 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: I think they were trying to do the right thing 440 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: by Tommy. 441 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 7: It was definitely a smother from the club, but it's 442 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 7: been well known for a little while now that it 443 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 7: was all I suspected it was a hamstring. The other issue, 444 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 7: Breath is like the magnitude of the losses the teams 445 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 7: that they're being beaten by the teams down the bottom 446 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 7: of the competition at They've been beaten by the Gold Coast, 447 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 7: beaten by Newcastle after leading sixteen mil and beaten by Paramatta. 448 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 7: That's for a side that was potentially talked about as 449 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 7: a top fourteen at the beginning of the year. 450 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: They need to start winning fast. 451 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: It hasn't been good and we talk about a succession 452 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: plan life after Sea by possibly buzz Road. Article on 453 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: the weekend mentioned Mick Innes, what's going on here? Do 454 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: we have any information on that? 455 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: Look, it seems this contract to landed twenty seven when 456 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: they did the extent, I think sebes A sort of 457 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: intimated that at the end of that contract he would 458 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: look to step away from the head coaching role, and 459 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: in the process of those talks, they talked about a 460 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: potential succession plan and names were raised. Mix was Mick 461 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: was one of the names that was raised. He's got 462 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: a great relationship with a lot of the players there. 463 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 5: They like him. 464 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: So Sea Bulls only got two and a half years 465 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: max at the club. 466 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: Well, when they did that extension, that was how he 467 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: was looking at the future. Yes, at the end of 468 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: twenty I don't want to coach after that. 469 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: I don't think his plan is to keep coaching up 470 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: dangerous because normally, like the best coaches in our game 471 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: are coaches like they're like life coaches. They want to 472 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: like that's their job for the rest of their life. 473 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: I would imagine Seeds told stay involved in the game. 474 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: Good. 475 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't think you'll step away from the game management 476 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: or something like well I was talk about I think 477 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: buzz Rais that was talking about maybe being a general 478 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: manager football or ahead of forty or stepping back in 479 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: a role with there's less focus on him because he's 480 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: been through a hell of a lot in the last 481 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: five six seven years with everything that happened to Brisbane, 482 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: and it's been. 483 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: Just on mek Nicko have to become a full time coach. 484 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: That's the concern right the mix. Obviously he's on the 485 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: coaching staff there at the moment, but he's not a 486 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: full time assistant. And I think that, you know, if 487 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: it was to go down this path, you would imagine 488 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: Mick would have to become a full time assistant, maybe 489 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: maybe next year or the year after, and then that 490 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: would bleed into becoming the head coach eventually. 491 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, you'd have to do a really good apprenticeship. You'd 492 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: have to get your feet under the desk pretty quick. 493 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: That's that's what I'd be thinking, because you'd want to 494 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: learn the most about players and watch the mistakes that 495 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 2: you don't want to make a few clubs but they 496 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: consider that enough for all. Yeah, but full time coaching 497 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: is not the exercents. Coaching has been around the group 498 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: and making sure that everything's right after. That's what I 499 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: normally hear from blokes like Wayne and like then. That's 500 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: that's the coaching part that makes the good and the bad. 501 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: You mentioned two and a half years now. That's all 502 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: good and well, but they're struggling now. Yeah, if you 503 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: don't like, the reality is he may not even last 504 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: close to that the way they're going. So were they 505 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: fast tracked micking. 506 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: To the job or what's the well the thing for 507 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 7: seebs he's got a very tight rapport with Manly CEO 508 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 7: Tony Mestrov. Those two are extremely close, so I think 509 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 7: that guarantees his position. And the fact that they only 510 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 7: saw in that extension what was it October last year? 511 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: It was only the back end of last year. I 512 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 7: don't like this agreement. I don't like this arrangement at all. 513 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: I think it's got fun with I don't think it's 514 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: a formal arrangement though it's not something that's in writing. 515 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: I think it was just spoken about as part of 516 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: the negotiations. I haven't spoken to Seeds about whether he's 517 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: changed his mind, but I still think that's the path 518 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 3: he wants to go down. But it's not a formal thing. 519 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: There's not a formal content that says we're going to 520 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: bring on a six. We've got a success or a 521 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: succession plan formally outlined. 522 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 7: Now negotiation, it's out there now it's been spoken about. 523 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 7: I don't know how that's going to sit with the 524 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 7: Plane group because your blokes know, you've been in dressing 525 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 7: rooms if you know that. 526 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: The reality is somebody as a player, but as an 527 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: outside looking in. If they continue the way they are, 528 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to maintain that for two and a 529 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: half years. You're not going to keep a coach there 530 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: when they're performing the way they are with the squad 531 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: They've got for another two and a half years for sure. 532 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: And what's the plan. 533 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there's a formal plan, as I said, 534 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: grdon I think it's an informal discussion. But as it 535 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: gets close to the end of twenty seven, if Seeds 536 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: are still there, i'd imagine they'll or maybe at the 537 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: end of next year or midway through next year, they'll 538 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: sit down and work out a formal plan. 539 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 5: But you're right, you're right, breath. 540 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if they keep losing footy games, the plans 541 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: this year with that roster record, to we say that 542 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: that roster, yeah, three months ago, you go, that's a 543 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: great roster, right, But since then, you know, Dai Chairvans 544 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: come out and announce he's going to another club and 545 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: throw the whole club into upheaval. You've had Tommy's had 546 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: injury problems and continue continues to be hampered to an 547 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: extent by injuries. That to me says they're two of 548 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: your highest paid players and so the rosters. Whilst it 549 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: might look great on paper, those issues weren't foreseen before. 550 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: The season started. 551 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't think he'd underestimate the daily chair Eaven's decision 552 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: and the influence that's had on that plane group there. 553 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 7: You spot on with that that that really did pull 554 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 7: the pin out of the hand grenade and explode at 555 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 7: that club, and it's still having reverberations. I think at 556 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 7: the moment you can tell in the way that the 557 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 7: team's performing well. 558 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: Hoops. That's the other elephant in the room tonight is 559 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: DCE and that deal at the roosters. Have they got 560 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: cold feet and is it going to happen? 561 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 7: I don't think they've got cold feet. I don't think 562 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 7: there's any contract been signed. I'm certain that there has 563 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 7: been some talks take place, and I think. 564 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: No contract in recent times. So if there's no contract signed, 565 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: that means that they don't have to be any more talk. 566 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: If they changed their mind. 567 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 7: Nick moo Otis is a man of integrity and a 568 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 7: man of his word. I think if he has verbally 569 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 7: spoken to Daily and they have done any sort of. 570 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: Deal, he said things have gone quiet. Has it gone 571 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: quiet from the Rooster's en or quite from vcs in I. 572 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 7: Think it might have gone quite from both parties. I'm 573 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 7: not saying I don't think. I'm not reading into that 574 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 7: that that's cooling. 575 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 5: I don't. 576 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 7: I think the Roosters got Toby Rodwell underneath Sam Walker 577 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 7: right who will be the star of the future. I 578 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 7: think they think adding Daily cherry Evans into their roster 579 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 7: for one or two years can help educate the crop 580 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: of young halves that they have and I and benefit Samore. 581 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: I agree. I think it'd be a good decision. Still, 582 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: if it's a one year two year I don't think so. 583 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: What if don't really take it. 584 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: If it's that's the issue We've heard at different stages 585 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: it's two years, then it's one year. I think it's 586 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: a big difference where Dally is at right now, with 587 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: the way that he's not only where he's at in 588 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: terms of age, but he's formed. Two years is a 589 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: big risk at that money like one year, you get 590 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the benefit of an experienced player who just straight to 591 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: the team makes him a premiership threat. He can teach 592 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: those young kids and they can learn from him and 593 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: he can be their mentor. But two years you're going 594 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: to probably lose. Now, that's a long time for him. 595 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: So that's that to me. Either makes the deal a 596 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: good deal or a bad one is the time that 597 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: he signs. 598 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: There with Hoops. 599 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: So I think it's you know, I think obviously there's 600 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: been some chat between the Roosters and Nick and Daily 601 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: and Nick. 602 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: Hoops is right. 603 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: Nick's a man of his word and principle, and I 604 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: don't think. 605 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Some people backflip on him. 606 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: Look, I think for further, you wouldn't come out and 607 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: do what Daily did earlier this year and cause the 608 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: drama a cause if you didn't have something locked up 609 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: for them, you would not do that. 610 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 5: It's Daily aware, do you think ready? 611 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 7: Because he comes across as a good fellow day when 612 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 7: you see him in front of the cameras at some 613 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 7: of the calls he's made over the course of his career, 614 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 7: I don't think he could shake your hand. 615 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: I find it very hard to believe Hoops that he 616 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: could have foreseen the damage that announcement would have caused. 617 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't. 618 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: I terribly advise then, whoever he's got a red, he could. 619 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Have fixed it from that moment on. 620 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: So when you do make a mistake, he could have 621 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: cleaned up a bit of the mess early by coming out, 622 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: facing and doing doing the things. 623 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Of some of the things are a little bit different. 624 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Let's switch focus to the dragon. Shane Flanagin defends Kyle 625 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: and says he's not the problem. Is he right? 626 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 5: Well, Gord to you at a very strong time. 627 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I just said it'd be really hard coaching your son. 628 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: You know. 629 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: I watched Brad Arthur do it with Jake, and then 630 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: you watch and then they're struggling and they're kicking games, 631 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: Paul and his sons, and when we talk about sides 632 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: getting the job done, we talk about the seven and six, 633 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: and he's there and the noise is getting louder. 634 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: I don't know why you would come out and do 635 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: what I did. Why would you come out and do this? 636 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: Which his son. 637 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: Again, he's got he's got to back his player, and 638 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 7: he would take the fact that he's fact backed. 639 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Him religiously all year. Hoops what come out again if 640 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: you don't need. 641 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 5: To do it. 642 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: He's pushing, but the noise is getting louder. He's having 643 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: to defend the decision. 644 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: What what I don't get is, look, I don't necessarily 645 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: think Cole is the issue there. I think Cole's had 646 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: a pretty good year, to be fair to him. But 647 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: Flannel six or six weeks ago he Droppedlachlan ili is 648 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: right and he said, go back to your first grade. 649 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: He said publicly he's a first grade half back. Go 650 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: back to mister Wild's Cup, get your confidence back, show 651 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: what you can do. You'll be back in first grade. 652 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: Eventually. 653 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: They've won six in a row, all right, since he's 654 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: gone back to reserve grade. The first grade team in 655 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: his absence, they've won two of six. When he was there, 656 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: they won three or seven. So they've got worse. And 657 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: I think if you don't and it's not just him, 658 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: Jona Glove, the other half there's been outstanding as well. Right, 659 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: if you're going to put blokes with playbokes in reserve 660 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: grade and you basically up the door and then coming 661 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: back in the first grade, what a reserve grade team, why. 662 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Haven't they Why the players there that gets your confidence. 663 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: Back, show you should be your first grader. He goes 664 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: back to the reserve grade. He actually does that, and 665 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: then you basically say, well, and he hasn't said he 666 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: hasn't shut the door in, but he's basically said by 667 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: doing that, by what he's come out and said, we 668 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: all go well, he's not changing things. 669 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 7: And at the same time as that's going on, and 670 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 7: the new Southwell's Cup side is performing strongly in the NRL, 671 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 7: they're losing a lot of tight games. That's the moments 672 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 7: where you want your playmakers to stand. 673 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: Up and deliver. 674 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 7: And I thought Paul Crawley wrote a great column on 675 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Today where if you go through every team 676 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: in the NRL with respect to call, he probably doesn't 677 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 7: get a start at any other club. So it's a 678 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 7: big call for Flanno because if the losses continue to mount, 679 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 7: then it's also Flanner's role, and it's Flanner's job that's going. 680 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: To be watching the press conference, I didn't necessarily agree 681 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: with the reaction to the game from him. He sort 682 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: of said, they're in the game aim and they will 683 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: pour under the high ball, but their kicking game was 684 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: poor and the best kick they like creative, didn't. I didn't. 685 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: They didn't create that really didn't. So I was a 686 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: bit surprised by that reaction, you know. 687 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: But it's tough on Kyle because it didn't work at 688 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 7: the Roosters and that was a tough period for him. 689 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 7: It didn't work at Canterbury, and you know, there was 690 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 7: a period where he was not picked in NROL for 691 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 7: a long while and then Gusts had to end up 692 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 7: stepping in and trying to take control of the situation. 693 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: I feel for him. I think he has got talent, 694 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 7: but at that really super elite level. It remains to 695 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 7: me soon whether he's going to get it done. 696 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: I think his job is safe for now. Anyway, stick around, 697 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Hoops and ready up next, we Chat live to Maroon's 698 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: hook Harry Graham