WEBVTT - Sharri | 11 November

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Andrew. Well, good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Exclusive tonight, We've got freshly unearthed footage that shows Kevin

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<v Speaker 3>Rudd calling Donald Trump a village idiot. This as his

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<v Speaker 3>deleted tweets becomes a big story in New York. Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Dutton searches ahead in news poll. He's almost in a

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<v Speaker 3>winning position. Well, does this mean that Albanezy could lead

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<v Speaker 3>a one term government? Also full coverage tonight of the

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<v Speaker 3>Amsterdam pogrom. A victim would join me live on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>plus the vice president of the Anti Defamation League who

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<v Speaker 3>was on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>As the horror unfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>Also on the show tonight Steve Price, Joe Hildebrand, Cameron Milner,

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<v Speaker 3>and Koshagada. And I'm going to speak with Kosher about

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<v Speaker 3>how there are now reports Kamala Harris had to pay

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<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars for celebrities to turn up to her rallies.

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<v Speaker 3>But first tonight, it's Remembrance Day today, when we honor

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<v Speaker 3>our fallen soldiers who fought for our freedoms and our

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<v Speaker 3>survival on this precise day, this sacred day, the very

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<v Speaker 3>values our allied soldiers sacrificed their lives for are at

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<v Speaker 3>grave risk as Islamic fundamentalists and woke leftists join forces

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<v Speaker 3>to weaken Western civilization and to rip away at the

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<v Speaker 3>fabric that holds our society together. The warning signs and

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<v Speaker 3>scenes of violence that we saw before World War II

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<v Speaker 3>are now sadly reoccurring, and the media is complicit while

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<v Speaker 3>veterans and survivors despair at what our world is coming to.

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<v Speaker 3>On Thursday night local time our time Friday, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a pogrom in Amsterdam. The story has been massively underplayed

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<v Speaker 3>in mainstream media outlets, and both the lack of coverage

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<v Speaker 3>and the response to the event itself exposes untold hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you missed this story, and who could blame

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<v Speaker 3>you because there hasn't been much coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a wave of extreme violence from local Muslim

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<v Speaker 3>gangs towards Jews after a soccer match between mccabi Tel

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<v Speaker 3>Aviv and the most popular Dutch team in Amsterdam. Master

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<v Speaker 3>tuckers shouted pro Palestinian and anti Jewish slogans while they

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<v Speaker 3>beat and chased Jews with knives. As you're about to see,

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<v Speaker 3>footage shows one Israeli yelling I'm not Jewish as he

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<v Speaker 3>was beaten and a warning this is distressing. Jews were

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<v Speaker 3>spat on, and footage shows Jews being thrown in the river.

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<v Speaker 3>Others jumped into canals to escape the attackers. One Jew

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<v Speaker 3>has told how he spoke Arabic so that the Muslims

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<v Speaker 3>would stop their violence against him. They wouldn't hear him

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<v Speaker 3>speaking Hebrew. He then later rescued many others. We know

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<v Speaker 3>this because of the testimony of victims, but also because,

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<v Speaker 3>like on October seven, these Hamas supporters filmed their hate

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<v Speaker 3>crimes against Jews. Again a warning, this video is distressing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sermons.

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<v Speaker 3>Police reportedly sat back and watched. They didn't help the

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<v Speaker 3>Tel Aviv fans as they were attacked. A network of

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<v Speaker 3>taxi and uber drivers are also reported to have helped

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<v Speaker 3>the gang's locate Jews. One father from London, who did

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<v Speaker 3>try and break up a gang attack, was reportedly hospitalized.

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<v Speaker 1>He was punched, his nose.

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<v Speaker 3>Was split and bleeding, his glasses broken. When someone pointed

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<v Speaker 3>out that the man was British, not Israeli, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the attackers said, yes, but he helped a Jew. The

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<v Speaker 3>Islamic attackers demanded to see passpots. They were hunting in

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<v Speaker 3>search of Jews, and the attackers trailed on scooters or

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<v Speaker 3>in taxis. There was no quarter of Amsterdam that was safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Israelis were abandoned and left to fend for them. Jews

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<v Speaker 3>were ordered to stay in lockdown in their hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 3>and not wear anything that would identify their religion. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yaho even sent rescue

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<v Speaker 3>planes to Amsterdam, and more than two thousand Jews were

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<v Speaker 3>flown to Israel on emergency flights. There were initial reports

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<v Speaker 3>that sixty two people had been arrested, but it turns

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<v Speaker 3>out that none of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Were related to the pogrom.

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<v Speaker 3>Conservative Party leader Gerd Wilders said, and I quote, I

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<v Speaker 3>am speechless.

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<v Speaker 1>Amsterdam police just.

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<v Speaker 3>Confirmed that no one has been arrested during the Islamic

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<v Speaker 3>Jew hunt in Amsterdam Thursday night. All arrests have been

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<v Speaker 3>made before and during the soccer match, and not during

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<v Speaker 3>the pogram. Now this is Israeli's just supporting their soccer

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<v Speaker 3>team in a western city in twenty twenty four, when

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<v Speaker 3>we're at the peak of woke ideology and progressive politics.

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<v Speaker 3>This pogrom also took place on the eighty sixth anniversary

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<v Speaker 3>of kristol Nacht, the Night of Broken Glass, when there

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<v Speaker 3>was a coordinated wave of Nazi violence and attacks against Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>It took place in Amsterdam, on the same streets where

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<v Speaker 3>Anne Frank lived, hid, and was murdered. Her legacy cannot

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<v Speaker 3>be forgotten, along with all of those who served and

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<v Speaker 3>sacrificed for us, who we remember today on Remembrance Day now.

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<v Speaker 3>One Dutch survivor of the Holocaust, Eddie Boas, told my

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<v Speaker 3>colleague Caroline Marcus today that the scenes were reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazi era, and he says he fears the aggression

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<v Speaker 3>on our streets aren't far off.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes me more than say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me.

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<v Speaker 3>Cranky now when we reflect on World War II and

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<v Speaker 3>the years that preceded it, No one excuses the violence

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<v Speaker 3>by claiming there was a reason for it, an excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>We recognize unequivocally that it was abhorrent racism and the

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<v Speaker 3>messages never again. Yet, right now, as we are witnessing

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<v Speaker 3>pogroms and persecution and racism, we are hearing excuses. Mainstream

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<v Speaker 3>media outlets who should know better, have excused this violence

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<v Speaker 3>by showing footage of one or two Israelis taking down

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<v Speaker 3>a Palestinian flag Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 5>Social media videos verified by Sky News Joe maccabee Tel

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<v Speaker 5>Aviv fans tearing down a Palestinian flags, Well, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky News UK and Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 5>Here was no better the violence on the streets of

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<v Speaker 5>Amsterdam unfolding after israel football fans were filmed chanting anti

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<v Speaker 5>Arab slogans and pulling down Palestinian flags from buildings.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, firstly, surely it doesn't need to be said that

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<v Speaker 3>one person taking down a flag doesn't justify the lynching

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<v Speaker 3>and hunting down of dozens, if not hundreds of Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>But far more crucially.

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<v Speaker 3>The flag and the chants are simply not the reason

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<v Speaker 3>for the wave of violence in Amsterdam because the Jew

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<v Speaker 3>hunt was planned well in advance. Extremists plotted the attack

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<v Speaker 3>days earlier on apps like Telegram and WhatsApp.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have those messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Dutch authorities have also confirmed that Mosside Intelligence that's Israeli intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>warned them about the plans for violence ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they did nothing with the warning and attempts

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<v Speaker 3>to paint this are's some protests again Israel are also

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<v Speaker 3>utterly inaccurate Let there be no misunderstanding. These thugs were

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to help Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 1>They were hunting down Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>Its persecution, it's racism, it's a pogrom, and the media

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<v Speaker 3>claims the violence is justified.

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<v Speaker 1>It's precisely what the mob at.

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<v Speaker 3>The Opera House on October nine last year promised to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the Jews?

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<v Speaker 3>And we were told there was no problem with that

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<v Speaker 3>chant because it wasn't gas the Jews. Well, the pro

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<v Speaker 3>Palestinian mobs have been telling us this entire time what

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<v Speaker 3>they intend to do the world over. They promised a

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<v Speaker 3>global into fada. We're now witnessing violence erupt in every western.

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<v Speaker 1>City in the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the point where it's gone too far. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I've grown up Jewish, but I've never truly understood how

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirties Europe could happen, or how the programs in

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<v Speaker 3>northeastern Europe in the early nineteen hundreds could happen either

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<v Speaker 3>or in Spain in the fourteen hundreds, or in the

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Empire some two thousand years.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago before Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>But now, for the first time in my life, I

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<v Speaker 3>do I understand how it happens. Law enforcement sits back,

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<v Speaker 3>politicians sit back, the media condones it, and the anti

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<v Speaker 3>Semitism erupts. It's allowed to fester and spread wider until

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes a major movement where figureheads arise. That is

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<v Speaker 3>how it happens, and we're following this recipe right now

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<v Speaker 3>in dozens of cities around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it's not too late to stop it, but

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<v Speaker 3>we need strong leaders who are prepared to say that

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<v Speaker 3>they won't allow this to happen under their watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are prepared to enforce the law.

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't have these leaders, then I ask how

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<v Speaker 3>many planes will Israel have to send? How many planes

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<v Speaker 3>will Israel have to send to Australia, to Europe, to

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<v Speaker 3>the United States? How many planes will Israel have to

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<v Speaker 3>send to rescue all of us from this violence that's

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<v Speaker 3>erupting and that law enforcement isn't doing anything about. Fundamentalist

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<v Speaker 3>is Lammists who don't stand for the values that our

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<v Speaker 3>veterans fought for of freedom, peace and makeship are given

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<v Speaker 3>a free pass by the police. They're getting away scot free,

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<v Speaker 3>emboldened by the radical left. Our veterans, our soldiers, our

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<v Speaker 3>fallen who we remember today would surely be horrified that

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<v Speaker 3>the Western world is crumbling before our very eyes. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get to other topics in the moment. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to talk about Trump, our exclusive on Kevin

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<v Speaker 3>Rudd News Poul. But now just let's stay on this

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<v Speaker 3>and let's bring in live from Berlin. Senior vice president

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<v Speaker 3>of the Anti Defamation League, Marina Rosenberg. Marina, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for your time. You flew to Amsterdam when there's violence unfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us some of the horrific things that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, Sherry, But first of all, thank you for

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<v Speaker 6>having me and thank you for your words. You said

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<v Speaker 6>it right. What we saw in Amsterdam Thursday evening was

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<v Speaker 6>a modern day for grown against Jews. There is absolutely

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<v Speaker 6>no other way to put it. And this is exactly

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<v Speaker 6>how glue globalized. The Intifada looks like. And it happened

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<v Speaker 6>in Amsterdam, but it could happen here in Berlin, it

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<v Speaker 6>could happen in Sydney, it could happen in New York.

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<v Speaker 6>The moment that our societies are normalizing anti Semitism, are

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<v Speaker 6>allowing for terrorist manifestations in their cities with flags of

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<v Speaker 6>Hamas and Hibala, with calls to globalize the Antifada and

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<v Speaker 6>resistance in any way, so we shouldn't be surprised of

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<v Speaker 6>what we saw Thursday night. Now let me feel clear.

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<v Speaker 6>We know what happened because we saw the videos that

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<v Speaker 6>the attackers themselves put on social media when they hunt Jews,

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<v Speaker 6>and they themselves were using this term in their Whatsap groups,

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<v Speaker 6>And this was a coordinated attack, This was not scontaneous.

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<v Speaker 6>We heard of people that were there that they were persecuted,

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<v Speaker 6>they were attacked, they were beaten. There were people that

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<v Speaker 6>were asked to show their passports to show their nationality.

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<v Speaker 6>The attackers ask are you Jewish? And there's a video

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<v Speaker 6>on social media of an Ukrainian citizen crying for his

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<v Speaker 6>life saying I'm not Jewish, I'm not Jewish. And this

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<v Speaker 6>is eighty six years after Kristen Lach, the Forgron that

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<v Speaker 6>happened here in Germany and in Austria where Jews were

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<v Speaker 6>killed and arrested. So this is not just unacceptable. This

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<v Speaker 6>is time for leaders to lead, to stop just talking

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<v Speaker 6>about it and condemning it and to take real actions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Rozenberg.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate your time because we're asking, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>this violence rapt in cities right across the world. We

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<v Speaker 3>during need strong ladyship, as you just said, we need

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<v Speaker 3>governments to take this seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Marina, thank you very much for your time.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Chery and a victim of those attacks will join me

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<v Speaker 3>later in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a soccer fan.

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<v Speaker 3>He tells me about how the police did nothing, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even get out a police vehicle. But now let's turn

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<v Speaker 3>to Kevin Rudd. We can Tonight exclusively reveal freshly unearthed

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<v Speaker 3>footage of Kevin Rudd calling Donald Trump a village idiot. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Rudd is already dealing with headlines in the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Times no less about why he deleted his tweets calling

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<v Speaker 3>Trump a traitor. But now there are further damaging comments

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<v Speaker 3>that he's made in the past about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a look in the last four years, has been

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<v Speaker 7>run by a village idiot, competent international state craft and

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<v Speaker 7>the United States increasingly incompetent and international state craft under.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump, And those two comments were edited together called him

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<v Speaker 3>a village idiot, and then he said that the United

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<v Speaker 3>States under Trump was incompetent.

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<v Speaker 1>He also was caught on film mocking Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>I stand by what I wrote then that was in

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<v Speaker 8>a pre Trump world. I hope to publish again soon,

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<v Speaker 8>hopefully early next year, the Future of US China Relations

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<v Speaker 8>under President Trump, and then I go to the subtitle

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<v Speaker 8>will be a call for a new tremendous piece of

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<v Speaker 8>very big, beautiful Mara Lago chocolate cake. That's the working title.

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<v Speaker 8>Any other suggestions I'd greatly receive.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't hear Kevin Wright speaking about any other United

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<v Speaker 3>States president like that. In other comments, he also claimed

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump was in love with dictators.

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<v Speaker 9>Have a look, but the underpinnings of it was still

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<v Speaker 9>incoherent because Trump himself was incoherent, and he waxed and

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<v Speaker 9>waned from being in love with dictators to not knowing

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<v Speaker 9>what he wanted from tators.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Rudd's poor judgment in making those comments in the first

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<v Speaker 3>place is only matched by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's poor

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<v Speaker 3>judgment in appointing Rudd in the first place. Rudd failed

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<v Speaker 3>to recognize that the MAGA movement wasn't going away and

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump could be president once again, while Albineazy knew

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<v Speaker 3>full well that Rudd had trashed the former president, but

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<v Speaker 3>appointed him anyway to our most important ambassadorship our man

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington. Now, businesses across Australia right now will be

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<v Speaker 3>rightly worrying about whether we're going to be hit with

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<v Speaker 3>the ten percent tariffs that Trump plans to impose on

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<v Speaker 3>countries around the world. And they'd be even more worried

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<v Speaker 3>because is Rudd really the best person to make the

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<v Speaker 3>case that Australia should be exempt when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 11>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>As The Nightly editor Chris Dare writes, loose lipped Rudd

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<v Speaker 3>is so arrogant actually thinks he can walk back every

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<v Speaker 3>insult ever delivered about Trump and get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's going to forget. And the widespread media coverage

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<v Speaker 3>now that he's deleting his comments is only amplifying the

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<v Speaker 3>devastating remarks he made.

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<v Speaker 1>They're now being repeated in.

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<v Speaker 3>The media over and over again. Well to discuss, let's

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<v Speaker 3>bring in Sky News host Steve Price and contributor Joe Heldebrand.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you both.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Christaor also made the very good point in his

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<v Speaker 3>article that probably Anthony Albinezi and Penny Wong actually agree

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<v Speaker 3>with everything Kevin Rud said about Trump in the past.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, they probably do. I mean, nothing surprises me about Kevin.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean he called me a gutless coward, which is

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<v Speaker 11>clearly defamatory, and he wanted it published in an open

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<v Speaker 11>letter in the news limited papers around the country. So

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<v Speaker 11>it's all going to come back to haunt him and

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<v Speaker 11>people will find more and more examples you have brilliantly

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<v Speaker 11>done of things he said.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past.

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<v Speaker 11>Now, Donald Trump, I think we know one thing about him.

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<v Speaker 11>He's a relationship guy. I mean Joe Hockey went and

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<v Speaker 11>played golf with him, deliberately lost and we managed to

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<v Speaker 11>keep tariffs of things like steal and aluminum. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>Kevin Rudd's not going to get that sort of treatment.

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<v Speaker 11>The own goal by Anthony Albanezi and appointing Kevin Rudd

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<v Speaker 11>was probably as bad as Tony Abbott and the knighthood

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<v Speaker 11>for Prince Philip. I mean it's almost it's worse than that,

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<v Speaker 11>because this is economically going to be very difficult for Australia,

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<v Speaker 11>much worse exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we are national security, our trade the US

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<v Speaker 3>is important for so many reasons. But Joe hilde Brun,

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<v Speaker 3>these comments, these new comments that we've just played tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>calling Trump a village idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a new level of low from Rudd. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump, or the election of Donald Trump, is actually

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<v Speaker 4>schooling a whole bunch of the sort of shall we say,

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<v Speaker 4>the narcissistic smug left in why that I think are

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly illuminating and incredibly helpful to those of us who

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<v Speaker 4>would like to see them taught a lesson and put

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<v Speaker 4>back in their box. Now, it has to be remembered

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<v Speaker 4>that when Kevin Rudd was made ambassador to the US,

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<v Speaker 4>part of the reason for that was to get him

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<v Speaker 4>off Twitter. Was to get him to shut up, stop

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<v Speaker 4>calling for a royal commission into news corps, stopped slagging

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<v Speaker 4>off everybody didn't like settling old scores. And I can

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<v Speaker 4>promise you that was very much part of the thinking

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<v Speaker 4>in booting him over there. He would have to be

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<v Speaker 4>quite literally diplomatic. The fact that he didn't scrub those

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<v Speaker 4>tweets at the time, I think speaks to a level

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<v Speaker 4>of perhaps arrogance and complacency. I don't think Trump had

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<v Speaker 4>even announced his renomination at the time that these comments

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<v Speaker 4>were made. And that goes to another piece of I suppose,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, elite lefty arrogance. And this is something goes

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<v Speaker 4>back to the first thing I wrote after Biden was elected,

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<v Speaker 4>which was all these people celebrating as though it was

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<v Speaker 4>all over, it was never going to come back again.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you think those seventy million plus voters is

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<v Speaker 4>the second highest turnout for anyone in US presidential history.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just going to go away now, that's it, that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>They're beaten. And you had all these lefties in Australia

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<v Speaker 4>and in America, these urban, elite, upper middle class, tertiary educated,

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<v Speaker 4>smartest people in the room. And this is another thing

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<v Speaker 4>that it's exposed. Oh we're so much smarter than you,

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<v Speaker 4>yor just an idiot. Oh he's gone forever, everything's fine,

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<v Speaker 4>And they clearly had never actually contemplated the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>this guy could come back and be their worst nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>They've clearly never seen the sequel to an action.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, it was never going away.

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<v Speaker 3>But just before we move on from right, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most egregious things as well is that he actually

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<v Speaker 3>took a media outlet to the Press Council because he

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<v Speaker 3>was so outraged about the reports that he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be or was being considered for the job of

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<v Speaker 3>the next ambassador in Washington, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was all true.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all true, unbelievable. Now let's have a look

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<v Speaker 3>at the news poll today. The Coalition has received of

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton a major boost because the primary for the

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<v Speaker 3>Coalition has now lifted to forty percent. Peter Dutton is

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<v Speaker 3>also closing on Anthony Albanezi in the better Prime Minister pole,

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<v Speaker 3>jumping four points now. Steve the Coalition needs a primary

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<v Speaker 3>of at least forty percent, probably forty one percent to

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<v Speaker 3>be in a winning position, but it looks like judging

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<v Speaker 3>by the momentum over the past year, Peter Dutton is

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<v Speaker 3>slowly inching that.

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<v Speaker 11>Slow and steady. And the point about it is that

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<v Speaker 11>he's now in a position where he can say, in

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<v Speaker 11>an election campaign to every Australian do you feel better

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<v Speaker 11>off now than you did three years ago? Which is

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<v Speaker 11>the line that Donald Trump used to get elected in

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<v Speaker 11>the United States, And of course he answered that question

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<v Speaker 11>is no. And so you've got now Peter Dutton in

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<v Speaker 11>a inner position where he's competitive. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 11>think anybody the Coalition included and Peter Dutton particularly are

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<v Speaker 11>getting ahead of themselves. They know there's got a hell

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<v Speaker 11>of a lot of work still to do. But Peter

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<v Speaker 11>Dutton now has the perfect opportunity. You've got to fight

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<v Speaker 11>this election on policies, not on pastreck ods. So he's

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<v Speaker 11>going to fight it on cost of living, cost of living,

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<v Speaker 11>immigration in particular, that's the other issue that people are

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<v Speaker 11>really upset about, and of course energy policy with nuclear

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<v Speaker 11>thrown into the mix. So I think Anthony Albanezi, after

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<v Speaker 11>a horror a couple of weeks where he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the upgrade drama and the holiday house, he would have

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<v Speaker 11>woken up this morning, picked up his copy of The

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<v Speaker 11>Australia and thought, oh god, I've really got a problem now.

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<v Speaker 1>You see.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm not sure about, because even when we

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<v Speaker 3>could all tell that the Voice was going to be defeated,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe albo was still even privately to insisting that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, surely at this point, you know, alban Ezi once

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<v Speaker 3>boasted he'd never lost a newsport but even surely he

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<v Speaker 3>must be getting worried now.

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<v Speaker 4>I would certainly never reveal any private conversations I have

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't had, but certainly I can say the one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that troubles me most about Albo is his confidence

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<v Speaker 4>and that even and you need that to be apologician,

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<v Speaker 4>because you need.

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<v Speaker 3>On this show, on this show set Albanese. He says

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to win.

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<v Speaker 4>But he is very confident. He's very confident, and he

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<v Speaker 4>is often, in my view, too confident. And obviously that

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<v Speaker 4>that confidence was misplaced in the voice, and that was

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<v Speaker 4>something I was saying publicly that this is delusion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's right, I agree, And again I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>a useful wake up call. I mean, there was a

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<v Speaker 4>there was a school of thought among sections of the

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<v Speaker 4>Labor Party that the great strategy would be to make

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<v Speaker 4>demonize Peter Dutton and make him Australias Donald Trump. Well

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't look too bright, now, does it, because in

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<v Speaker 4>that scenario, Peter Dutton wins in a landslide. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think also it is a reminder and Albo and the

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<v Speaker 4>government have been very good about this since the Voice

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<v Speaker 4>really burnt their fingers. They have been concentrating wholly on

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<v Speaker 4>bread and butter issues, wholly on cost of living matters.

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<v Speaker 4>They have not been distracted by any other you know,

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote sort of woke or ideological agendas. When there

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<v Speaker 4>were issues around you know, naming people's gender or.

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<v Speaker 1>Sect about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Here all the government hasn't been focused on cost of

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<v Speaker 3>living at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody is supporting let's.

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<v Speaker 12>Have a look at Nancy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I have I have learned their lessons. There are

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of lessons to learn. And if I just

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<v Speaker 4>stick to the center, that will be all right. And

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<v Speaker 4>this hasn't been Obviously, Liba is going to get bad poll.

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<v Speaker 1>You get it, Joe, but the government has not learned.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Nancy Pelosi has blamed the loss of the election

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<v Speaker 3>on President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 13>Had the president gotten out sooner, there may been other

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<v Speaker 13>candidates in the race. Commonly, I think still would have won,

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<v Speaker 13>but she may have been stronger having taken her case

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<v Speaker 13>to the public sooner. The anticipation was that if there

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<v Speaker 13>if the president were to step aside, that there would

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<v Speaker 13>be an open primary.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Price, it is true that if Biden would have

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<v Speaker 3>stepped aside earlier, a proper primary process could have been run.

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<v Speaker 3>A stronger candidate would have been found. It probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have been Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 11>Proper, yeah, you'd get a proper primary. You get a

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<v Speaker 11>proper candidate which wasn't Kamala Harris, but Nancy Pelosi. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>who needs her as a friend? I mean Paul old

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<v Speaker 11>Joe Biden. I mean, we all felt sorry for Joe

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<v Speaker 11>Biden in the for years as he stumbled up the

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<v Speaker 11>stairs of the aircraft and couldn't remember his name. But

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<v Speaker 11>Pelosi was sitting there that whole time, and they let

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<v Speaker 11>him hang there on the branch, and finally they had

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<v Speaker 11>to cut him down. But to now come out and

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<v Speaker 11>say that, I mean, I really I feel sorry for

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<v Speaker 11>Joe Biden, to be honest, I mean that is a

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<v Speaker 11>disgraceful behavior by someone who has you know, worked off

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<v Speaker 11>the back of Joe Biden for years.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, he should have stepped aside earlier. He was sure

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<v Speaker 3>he was thrown out ultimately by Barack Obama and by

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<v Speaker 3>Nancy Pelosi. But also this loss has exposed all the

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<v Speaker 3>infighting with the different camps Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>No sympathy for Joe Biden whatsoever. It was outrageous to

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<v Speaker 4>think that he would run again, given his age and

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 4>obvious cognitive decline. I don't think anyone expected that would happen,

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<v Speaker 4>except for Joe Biden, and perhaps Jill Biden has a

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 4>lot to answer for, because she seems to be the

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<v Speaker 4>one who is sort of juicing him up and giving

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<v Speaker 4>him his talking points and give him a little pat

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<v Speaker 4>on the back like a toddler when he actually got

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<v Speaker 4>something right. I thought it was the most embarrassing spector

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever seen. And the idea that you would torch

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<v Speaker 4>the entire Democratic Party's chances maybe for a generation, bring

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<v Speaker 4>back Donald Trump, who, by your own reckoning, is the

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<v Speaker 4>most dangerous president in US history. I don't believe that,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 4>but that's what they say. And they were prepared to

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<v Speaker 4>actually roll the dice on that and bring it back

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<v Speaker 4>with a candidate they knew couldn't beat anyone else, so

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<v Speaker 4>they maybe let Donald lu Donald back into the nomination

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<v Speaker 4>or otherwise failed to find a better candidate who could

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<v Speaker 4>have beaten Donald Trump or someone else. And they did

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<v Speaker 4>all of that, by their own admission, brought the most

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 4>dangerous man in the United States States back into the

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<v Speaker 4>White House just for the sake of one man's vanity,

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<v Speaker 4>one man's personal legacy project. Torch the entire party for that,

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<v Speaker 4>Torch the entire country for that. And they say Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is the one with dictatorial, anti democratic tendencies. Give me

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<v Speaker 4>a break.

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris would

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<v Speaker 3>have been able to win against Donald Trump. And the

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<v Speaker 3>reason the Obamas, in my view, took so long to

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<v Speaker 3>come out and endorse Kamala Harris was not because they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted another candidate. They probably wanted Michelle Obama to run it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can see that by the books, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>reading between the lines, and I did read, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most recent she didn't want to run.

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<v Speaker 3>I strongly believe that she does want a political career,

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<v Speaker 3>just judging by reading her book.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, time will tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, Hilda Brand, Steve Price, thank you both so much.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Now still to come.

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris accused of spending over one million dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>Oprah Winfrey's appearance, plus an Israeli soccer fan who was

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<v Speaker 3>chased in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 1>Join me Live next, that's after this welcome back. Well

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>still to come.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris accused of paying celebrities to appear with her. Also,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 3>there's drama in the Trump camp as Mike Pompeo is

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<v Speaker 3>excluded from his administration. I'm going to get to that

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<v Speaker 3>with Koshergada. But now let's return to the program in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an important story. Five people were hospitalized and

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty to thirty injured. One of those who was injured

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>is soccer fan off ek Ziv. He says that he

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<v Speaker 3>felt the same as he did on the morning of

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<v Speaker 3>October seven, and he joins me now live effect, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for your time. You are safely back in Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Now tell us how you were injured on Thursday night

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<v Speaker 3>in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 14>So thank you for having me. And So I got injured.

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<v Speaker 10>In my head.

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 14>The becum in my head the right side. After we

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 14>came out from the central station, the metro station from

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 14>the stadium to the way to DWN Square and saw

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 14>in the exit waiting for us thirty twenty to thirty

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 14>guys and attack our fans, and I got hurt by

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 14>a spoon in my head and then they sworn at us.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 14>Some being banged fireworks or something like this. But it

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 14>felt like a rocket because it it makes a massive,

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 14>massive explosion nearby us, and you can you could see

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<v Speaker 14>that the smoke come come on from the ground and

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 14>it was vital towards very scary situation. And at the

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 14>moment I didn't know, I didn't know what but I

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<v Speaker 14>know that I need to ride away with my friend.

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<v Speaker 14>And another time that he was fifteen, I think I

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<v Speaker 14>don't know who he's.

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<v Speaker 1>For fifteen minutes. Is that what you're saying? You ran

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<v Speaker 1>away for fifty the.

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<v Speaker 14>Boy, the boy who take a hide behind me with

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<v Speaker 14>the explosion and come there is a boy I think

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<v Speaker 14>he was fifteen years old, that's it. He come along

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<v Speaker 14>from Israel to this game just to enjoy this beautiful,

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 14>beautiful soper much and then we got into this attack.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 14>So we knew that if we don't run away immediately,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 14>we could be there, because we live in this situation

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<v Speaker 14>every time, every day and as well, so it's like

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<v Speaker 14>an emergency situation that we know we need to run

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<v Speaker 14>away immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Affect. Did police help you at all at any point?

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<v Speaker 14>They come late? They come really really late, because when

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<v Speaker 14>it's happened and the terrorists Muslims comes very very organized

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<v Speaker 14>from the start to the end. And you can see,

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<v Speaker 14>you could see even the from TikTok Lives, Facebook lives

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<v Speaker 14>from the down Square that the police didn't do nothing.

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 14>They're just standing in a line that with their course,

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<v Speaker 14>with their cause, the police courts behind them, just standing

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<v Speaker 14>just standing without any help and you could bud the

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<v Speaker 14>explosion of the big bangals fireworks. It's about thrown into

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<v Speaker 14>our hands and it could held it in these lives.

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<v Speaker 14>So they didn't help. And until they got involved, many

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<v Speaker 14>many of our hands get humiliating, roub anced and kicked,

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<v Speaker 14>and they just it's a weird and said situation because

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<v Speaker 14>I we can do nothing. No one helped us. The

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<v Speaker 14>group of who helped us was actually the ultras of

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<v Speaker 14>Macapital Macaby fanatics who heard the unius about that attack

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<v Speaker 14>just in the stadium and then they come together to

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 14>help our guys. And that is the police didn't come

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<v Speaker 14>to help us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's completely outrageous, totally outrageous that the police and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just you saying this, a lot of the victims

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 3>and the eyewitnesses are saying that police did nothing, and well.

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<v Speaker 1>The proof is in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 3>No one reportedly arrested at all despite this roundpage off Ek.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We're so sorry you went through that.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate you sharing your story with us in Australia tonight.

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<v Speaker 14>Thank you, Thank you much, Rich Abtades, thank you very

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 14>much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you now still to come after the break Kamala

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Harris accused of splashing out millions of dollars on celebrity

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 3>appearances at her campaign rallies, and why Ozzie parents are

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>having fewer babies.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that with Cameron Milner and David Gazard.

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<v Speaker 3>After this quick break, All right, let's bring in our

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Monday night political panel now former chief of staff to

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Bill Shortton Cameron Milner and former advisor to John Howard

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 3>David Gazard. Great to see you both. Always love this

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 3>panel on a Monday. Now let's start with us politics,

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>because we're learning that Kamala Harris reportedly dropped one million

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>dollars to get Oprah Winfrey to one of her town

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<v Speaker 3>Whole events. This is back in September. This report is

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<v Speaker 3>from the Washington Examiner. They say that the Harris campaign

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 3>paid that amount of money to Winfrey's company, Harpo Productions.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Also says that Harris spent or her campaign spent six

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 3>figures on building a set for Kamala's appearance on the

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 3>podcast Call Her Daddy, and then the campaign also reportedly

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>spent up to twenty million on swing state constants on

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<v Speaker 3>the eve of the election, including on Katy Perry and

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Lady Gaga. Now, Cameron, from your experience in politics, and

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you've also run state campaigns for labor. All this money

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>on celebrity endorsements, but I mean, and even Taylor Swift,

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 3>But it looks like voters just sold through it.

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<v Speaker 12>Well I think they did, and I think elites don't

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<v Speaker 12>work and celebrities don't work a shari. I mean, it

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 12>didn't work for Albanese with the Albanize voice. It tanked

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 12>with Alan Joyce from that campaign, and it looked terrible.

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 12>For Kamala, Trump looked authentic and I'm ala hand the

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<v Speaker 12>microphone to get another Hollywood celebrity, another woke lefty on

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<v Speaker 12>the stage. But this is much worse. This is much worse.

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<v Speaker 12>If this is true, this is cash for comet on

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<v Speaker 12>a grand scale, cash for comet, because we don't know

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 12>where they were just ring a line off an udo

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 12>queue for money, or where they actually believe what they

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 12>were saying. Abou Kamala harrise, And that would be really

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 12>really bad if that's actually the case. As I say,

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<v Speaker 12>cash for comet, Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good line. David Gazarde.

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<v Speaker 3>The celebrities actually could have worked against Kamala. Harris given

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<v Speaker 3>that cost of living and inflation was the biggest issue

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<v Speaker 3>in the US election.

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<v Speaker 15>I was living inflation, and it was the working class

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<v Speaker 15>that really sort of said, hey, we need a leader

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 15>who's in touch with our aspirations and our concerns. You

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 15>couldn't really find anyone further away from those aspirations than

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 15>elites living in Hollywood who are played really to pretend

0:36:56.040 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 15>to be somebody else, attending parties with p D on

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<v Speaker 15>one weekend and then telling you how to vote on

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<v Speaker 15>the next. I mean, I think I'm with Cameron here.

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<v Speaker 15>It's concerning too that Oprah doesn't sort of front up

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 15>and say well, I'm here as a friend. She has

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<v Speaker 15>to be paid to appear to tell people how to vote,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 15>which would make it even worse. But it really shows

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 15>a campaign team hopelessly out of touch with what voters

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<v Speaker 15>were telling them.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of lessons to learn from the US election.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to come back to Donald Trump a bit

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<v Speaker 3>later in the show, because we have learned this morning

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>that he's excluded Mike Pompeia from his team. I'm going

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to come back to that with Koshagata. But I want

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 3>to have to look at the fertility rate in Australia. Now,

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 3>back in two thousand and eight, the average woman was

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 3>having two children, but then in twenty twenty three it

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 3>fell to a record low of one point five children

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 3>born to a woman over her lifetime one point five.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Now the center of a population is sounding the alarm

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 3>over this, even predicting that school finding will need to

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 3>be cut in the twenty thirties because they're saying there

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 3>might not be enough students. Cameron, social and economic issues,

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the housing crisis, this is all being blamed.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's the long term legacy of Albo's cost of

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 12>living crisis, isn't it. I mean, we're living grocery prices

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 12>and petrol and mortgages on a daily basis. But clearly

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 12>parents are deciding that children who do cost a lot

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 12>of money. I have for myself, so I can speak

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 12>for that. But certainly children cost money and people are

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 12>worried about the future, worried about the cost of living.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 12>So this is the long term legacy of Albanese's failure

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 12>on cost of living.

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<v Speaker 3>Frustralia because you know, it's not even far off to

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>think that this is the reason, David. Because life is

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>so expensive, families just can't afford to have as many

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 3>children as they once could.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 15>This is a longer term trend and it goes to

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 15>people worrying about the effect of their children on the environment,

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<v Speaker 15>which is sort of laughable given fortility rates in other countries.

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<v Speaker 15>Don't forget that, you know, back in the mid two thousands,

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 15>the then Treasurer was trying to arrest this with it

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 15>with a baby bonus, something this government has as explicitly

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 15>ruled out. But it comes with the attendant problems. You

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 15>have an aging population consuming more health health care, living

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 15>for longer, and you've got less people entering the tax

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 15>base paying taxes to pay for all those services for

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 15>the aging population, so that the boomers are getting by

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 15>on their savings at the moment, but it will be

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 15>a declining workforce and a radically changed tax system, with

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 15>taxes in other areas having a rise to pay for

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 15>those bills in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, I want to get both of your views

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 3>on the news pole, because this is kind of an

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 3>amazing news pole today. For Peter Dutton, his primary or

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 3>coalition's primary now forty percent. This is according to the

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 3>news poll in the Australian newspaper front page today and

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<v Speaker 3>with the primary of forty percent. Could Peter Dutton be

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister if he continues to head in this direction?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the trend is Peter's friend. I mean, it's been

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 12>going for a while now, this news poll trend away

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 12>from Labor and growing and growing the Liberal primary. I think,

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 12>David and you and I've spoken this about this. Dutton

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 12>still has time, so he's coming. He's coming from a

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 12>long way behind. But with six months to go before

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.280
<v Speaker 12>the next federal election, this trend is really really worrying

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 12>for Labor. And the worry for Labor is that it

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 12>is we can't get out of the corner. Albanie hasn't

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 12>found a way to get the primary to increase, and

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 12>in fact what's happening is the Greens are going backwards.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 12>Now that's so bad thing, Sharie, but necessarily the Liberal

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 12>primary is becoming huge and that's a real long term

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 12>problem for Labor as they face the election in only

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 12>six months time.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, Labor has in recent times run excellent campaigns, also

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 3>excellent scare campaigns. But David, it does seem and you know,

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 3>we hear reports that they might run a scare campaign

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>on abortion and other issues.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems as though voters.

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Are starting to cement their view of exactly who the

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister is and they think that he's weak and incompetent.

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>I was having this very conversation this morning.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 14>Share.

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 15>It's an interesting thing you're saying. I'd say, describe it

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 15>this way. It's like the voters are going to a

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 15>new restaurant with a new government. They order up the food,

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 15>they're not happy with it. Do they just decide to

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 15>eat it and pay the bill and not come back

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 15>to the restaurant, or do they send it back? I

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 15>think that the jury is out on that, but it's

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 15>clear that Anthony Elbenezi is facing a trifecta of trouble

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<v Speaker 15>politically because he's losing the primary vote. The two PP

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<v Speaker 15>is going against him and he arguably could be behind there,

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<v Speaker 15>but he's also in mortal danger of giving up preferred PM.

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<v Speaker 15>And you can survive when one of your numbers is

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<v Speaker 15>higher than the other as leader, but when all three

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<v Speaker 15>of prost you've got a very very difficult couple of

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<v Speaker 15>weeks Parliament to when the year when that confluence of

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<v Speaker 15>numbers occurs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting for over a year now, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you take it back to probably the Voice campaign. There

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been really a week that Albernezi has won politically.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just moving from problem to problem to problem, and

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<v Speaker 3>he keeps trying to have distractions by announcing policies, but

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<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 12>Cameron, Well, no, because it's Albanese who's the frontman for it.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean he was a frontman for the Albanese Voice,

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<v Speaker 12>is the front man for every labor announcement. And he's

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<v Speaker 12>not dealing with a critical issue, the number one issue

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<v Speaker 12>for Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>Cost a living.

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<v Speaker 12>He's not dealing with it maturely and sensibly and really,

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<v Speaker 12>and yet Peter Dartner's out there saying we've got policies

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<v Speaker 12>and plans for that. So Albanese is in all sorts

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<v Speaker 12>of trouble and labor while albo Leads is leading towards

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<v Speaker 12>election loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, the times that we're living in national securities a

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<v Speaker 3>concern as well. We're seeing this violence, whether it's youth crime,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's the protesters and a figure Peter Dutton, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what used to be his weakness, what would have

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<v Speaker 3>been considered his weaknesses, that he comes across as too

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<v Speaker 3>hard and too tough David Gazzard, this is now working

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<v Speaker 3>for him.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>In politics we call those equity positions. And Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 15>certainly owns. The Liberal Party traditionally owns the area of

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<v Speaker 15>security and the economy, two of the biggest vote drivers.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, Peter is a former policeman, has run home affairs,

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<v Speaker 15>border control, that sort of thing, so that's running in

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<v Speaker 15>his favor. On the other side is Anthony Albernez, a

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<v Speaker 15>member of the socialist left faction of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 15>If ever you could find that the faction that was

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<v Speaker 15>not put in place to run tight fiscal and budget policy,

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<v Speaker 15>it would be the socialist Left. So Anthony Abernez, he

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<v Speaker 15>has never really had to confront these issues. He's probably

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<v Speaker 15>not really that interesting in running these issues. He's been

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<v Speaker 15>more of an activist in the city, you know, quasi green,

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<v Speaker 15>socialist left faction Labor Party MP. He suddenly finds himself

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<v Speaker 15>with having to deal with a global economic problem as

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<v Speaker 15>well as a huge security problem. It's not his areas

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<v Speaker 15>of comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely, all right, David Gazard, Cameron, me and I

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<v Speaker 3>thank you both very much for joining me. Still to come,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump starts to announce some key appointments. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you which after the break, plus the internal

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<v Speaker 3>turmoil in the Trump camp as Mike Pompeo is given

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<v Speaker 3>the boot. All that and more with Koshagada after the Break.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Pompeo and Nicky Haley have both been snubbed for

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<v Speaker 3>a spot in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump took to social media. He thanked them for

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<v Speaker 3>their service, but said they wouldn't be in his team.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a surprise for Nicky Haley. She ran against

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<v Speaker 3>Trump in the primaries. She was pretty critical about him personally,

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<v Speaker 3>although they did make up.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a massive shock.

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<v Speaker 3>For Mike Pompeo and his supporters. It had been widely

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<v Speaker 3>reported that he was being considered for the role of

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<v Speaker 3>Defense Secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have been terrific in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wall Street Journal reports that this decision could be

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<v Speaker 3>the influence of Trump's son, Don Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>But also Tucker Carlson. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Don Junior retweeted a MAGA supporter who said, this, The

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<v Speaker 3>stop Pompeo movement is great, but it's not enough right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We need maximum pressure to keep all neocons and warhawks

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<v Speaker 3>out of.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 3>They have had their time at the table and brought

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but disaster to the.

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<v Speaker 1>World and this country.

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<v Speaker 3>And Don Junior replied to this saying, agreed, one hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's bring in our Sky News Countrybut kosher gada

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 3>now kosher. I think this is a deeply disappointing move.

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Mike Pompeo was the best of the best in the

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>He was solid on Ukraine, on China, on Israel.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 3>His view isn't unnecessary war, it's peace through strength. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be too judgmental until we see

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<v Speaker 3>who Trump does a point, but this seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>a worrying sign about the influence of some of the

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 3>isolationist figures who don't understand that actually America has a

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<v Speaker 3>critical role to play as leader of the free world.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I think what this is going to come

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<v Speaker 10>down to, Shari, is the underlying framework here is there

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<v Speaker 10>is a civil war really happening within the right side

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<v Speaker 10>of politics in America and in the Republican Party, and

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<v Speaker 10>foreign policy is one of two or three key issues

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 10>that's having a new fault line drawn. And as you say,

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<v Speaker 10>there is the group that believes a return to non interventionalism,

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<v Speaker 10>as they would put it, is the way forward when

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<v Speaker 10>you want to balance all the problems that are there

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<v Speaker 10>domestically with the way we have to look at our

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<v Speaker 10>place in the world. And then there's the other faction

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<v Speaker 10>that Mike POMPEII was certainly part of. Nikki Hiley, would

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<v Speaker 10>be John Bolton, who was involved in the last administration,

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<v Speaker 10>and others.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what you're going to see is this battlefield.

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 10>It's only not even been one week yet since President

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<v Speaker 10>Elector has come in, but I think he and his supporters,

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<v Speaker 10>whether it's Don Junior and Tucker and others, even RFK

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 10>and Tulsea Gabert and all of them are from that

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<v Speaker 10>former camp, which is they want non interventionalism and want

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<v Speaker 10>to pull back of US involvement actively kinetically in the world.

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<v Speaker 10>And you are going to see that worse trading and

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<v Speaker 10>conflict I think within the party really spill out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was also such a surprise because not that long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>about a week and a half or two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump all but endorsed Pompeo and thanked him for everything

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<v Speaker 3>he'd done to keep the world a safer place at

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<v Speaker 3>a rally bil Kosher. Trump has announced at least three

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<v Speaker 3>key appointments. Can you take us through those three figures that.

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<v Speaker 1>We know about so far? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So the first one is Susie Wiles, who was his

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<v Speaker 10>campaign manager, and he is appointing her as chief of staff.

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<v Speaker 10>That's an interesting one too, because she sort of grew

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<v Speaker 10>up under the Bush era of Republican politics, and I

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<v Speaker 10>think she was chief of staff of Ron de Santis

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 10>and his primary campaign well or campaign manager. So it's

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<v Speaker 10>interesting that she's sort of been in other parts of

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 10>those different fracturings in the Republican Party. But she has

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 10>definitely earned his trust and credibility given the very successful

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 10>campaign that he ran. She doesn't seek the limelight. She

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 10>seems to be a very disciplined person and somebody who's

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 10>able to manage Trump as much as Trump is manageable.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's one, and she'll be the gatekeeper for a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of people having access to Trump. The second is

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<v Speaker 10>Congresswoman Elis Stephonic of New York has reportedly been offered

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<v Speaker 10>the role of UN Ambassador.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a position that requires.

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<v Speaker 10>Senate confirmation, so it won't be official until the Senate

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<v Speaker 10>comes back in and is able to run that process.

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<v Speaker 10>But everybody expects that that will go through smoothly, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She's accepted it.

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<v Speaker 10>She's somebody who rows to prominence with her addressing the

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<v Speaker 10>issues on college campuses in the US and in the

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<v Speaker 10>wake of October seventh and anti Semitic protests and all

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<v Speaker 10>of that. So her appointment will be quite interesting as

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<v Speaker 10>our representative to the un specifically given what's happening in

0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:59.720
<v Speaker 10>that region. And then the third one is the borders

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<v Speaker 10>are Tom Horman, who's a retired ICE director, So he's

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<v Speaker 10>a retired director of the Immigration Enforcement Agency and he's

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<v Speaker 10>coming out of retirement to serve as a czar, which

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<v Speaker 10>is not a cabinet position or doesn't have official authority

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<v Speaker 10>per se, but he'll be the force, the face rather

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<v Speaker 10>of that issue, which was a signature issue of Trump

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 10>with the master deportations and all of that. So that one,

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<v Speaker 10>I think also signals that Trump is so far intending

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 10>to keep his signature campaign promise with respective deportations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Stephanick did a brilliant job when she

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 3>was holding those university chancellors to account. Kosha got it

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<v Speaker 3>great to see you as always on a Monday night,

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and thanks everyone for watching tonight. I'll see you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>at at eight. And I think we're about to rename

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<v Speaker 3>the Man Cave the Woman Cave because he is Dnika

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<v Speaker 3>to Giorgio