1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamiot. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, December twelfth. Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi pledged eight 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: point five million dollars to find the redevelopment of Sydney's 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Jewish Museum after a second anti semitic attack was carried 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: out in the city's east on Tuesday night. New South 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Wales Premier Chris Min's blasted suggestions the Wallara incident didn't 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: amount to antisemitism. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: This is not simply just an act of vandalism on 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: the streets of Sydney. We need to call it out 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: for what it is. It is anti Semitic and it 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: needs to be met with a full response from New 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: South Wales Police in the New South Wales government. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, leaders of Melbourne's Jewish community have called on governments 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: at all levels to address the surge in anti Semitic 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: incidents after a synagogue was firebombed and a local member's 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: electorate office was vandalized. All our reporting and analysis of 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: this ongoing issue is live right now at the Australian 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: dot Com dot AU. It's been days of chaos for 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the government, but that didn't stop the PM from spooking 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: Labour's big childcare plans on Wednesday. So is it a 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: sweet enough deal to get voters back on board before 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the next election. That's today's episode. It was an announcement 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: befitting an election campaign. 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: There are more than one million reasons to invest in 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: early education, some of whom are here with us here today, 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: one of them riding a dinosaur down there. 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi, surrounded by a crowd of early 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: childhood educators, parents and cute toddlers and babies, unveiled the 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Labor Party's plan to overhaul the childcare sector. 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Today I announced our government is establishing a one billion 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: dollar building early Education fund. This is the single biggest 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: investment by an Australian government ever in new child care services. 33 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: It came at a crucial moment for the government. The 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: PM has been under pressure for days to take more 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: decisive action on rising anti semitism. 36 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 4: The fact is there's never going to be the perfect day. 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: This is how I think Albanezi looked at this. 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Eisen is a political reporter with The Australian. 39 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: So I think he was very clear that this was 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: the week he was going to do it. I also 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 4: think he wanted to do it because they're also cognizant 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: of the coalition's nuclear energy costings, because they want that 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: day where the Coalition release their nuclear energy costing, which 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: is any day now free for the Labor to attack 45 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: and criticize that. It feels very much like an election, 46 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: and we're very close to one, could be within a 47 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: couple months of the earliest, could be by May. 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: The PM pledged on Wednesday to scrap an activity test 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: that requires parents and careers to work or study if 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: they want to access childcare benefits. Labour will also give 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: families earning a combined annual income of less than five 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand dollars access to three days per 53 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: week of government subsidized childcare if it wins the next election, 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and the government says it'll build more than one hundred 55 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: and fifty childcare centers in cities and regions where they're 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: needed most, as well as drawing thousands of new workers 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: into the sector, with taxpayers footing the bill. 58 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Now, the coming budget update will show common more funding 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: for childcare subsidies is increasing by three point one billion 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: dollars over the next four years to support an extra 61 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand children to receive earlier educash. Alongside this, 62 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: thirty four thousand and more early educators have joined the 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: workforce thirty four thousand. There are another one hundred and 64 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: twenty five thousand in training, including in Free Day right 65 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: across the nation. 66 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Now bear with me here while we do a bit 67 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: of maths. Modeling released by the Productivity Commission in September, 68 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: that's the government's independent research and advisory body suggested the 69 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: cost of ditching the current activity test for five days 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: a week would cost about two billion dollars a year. 71 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: On top of that, removal of the activity test could 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: threaten productivity if parents and carers are no longer paying 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: income tax. So how is labor getting away with it 74 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: so cheaply? 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: The governments saying that the Productivity Commission's costings and their 76 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: costings are very different. They're saying the Productivity Commission's using 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: data from twenty nineteen twenty twenty. 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 5: And they are using much more up to day start off. 79 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: They're not saying it's a huge difference in policy or 80 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: that we've managed to do it cheaply. For this reason, 81 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: they're looking at it as a calculation difference rather than 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: a substantive policy difference. 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: Is there a. 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: World in which this isn't about money or politics at all? Like, 85 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: is this just the right thing to do for Australian 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: families and for Australian kids from an. 87 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: Education perspective, If we zoom out back past the Middle 88 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: East conflict, back before we were around the corner from 89 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: an election. The call for particularly the activity test to 90 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: be scrapped has been going on literally for years, for 91 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: so many years, and the government's owned Women Economic Equality 92 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: Task Force, not the last budget, but the budget before 93 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: that recommended the activity test to be scrapped. So outside 94 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: of the money, outside of the election and psycho outside 95 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: of everything political, this is a long time coming for Labor, 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: particularly for a government that sees universal childcare as the 97 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: end game. For that to be achieved, you need to 98 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: be taking these incremental steps regarding the activity test as 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: a starting point, addressing the childcare desert, looking at boosting 100 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: wages for workforce and so on. So this is a 101 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: critical piece of the puzzle that is regarding Labour's. 102 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: Long term vision beyond the typical. 103 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: Day to day politics and the desire to get some 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: really good stuff out before an election. 105 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Labor made moves in the childcare space. 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: Back in August, Australia's two hundred thousand childcare workers will 107 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 6: receive a fifteen percent pay rise funded by federal taxpayers. 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 6: A mid concerns it risks further fueling inflation. The Prime 109 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 6: Minister says the wage increase is conditional on childcare fees 110 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 6: being capped. 111 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: At the time, Opposition leader Peter Dutton criticized the move 112 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: as a one off sugar hit. 113 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: The government has to explain whether or not these workers 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: are going to get this pay ongoing, or whether they 115 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: will get a paid cut after the election. The sector 116 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 4: a lot of people, the parenthood, nonproprofit sector, a lot 117 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: of those sorts of bodies have called for the Opposition 118 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: to match what Labour's announced. The Opposition isn't going to 119 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: do that. The Opposition is saying that the activity test 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: already has exemptions you can apply for if you're from 121 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: a disadvantaged background. It's also saying that it's going to 122 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: unnecessarily and unsustainably fuel demand, which is not at all 123 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: okay in a cost of living crisis. So they're talking 124 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: about a smoke and mirror's moment. A moment that isn't 125 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: actually going to help Australian families. 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Coming up. What Labour can learn about childcare from our 127 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: friends across the Pacific. When Anthony Albanesi unveiled the government's 128 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar childcare scheme on Wednesday, he likened it 129 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: to another Labor Party invention friends. 130 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: A Labor government created universal Mediccare because we believe that 131 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: every Australian has the right to quality, affordable healthcare. 132 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: That was in nineteen eighty four and former Prime Minister 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Bob Hawke played a starring role in the marketing material 134 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: for the scheme. 135 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: Then every Australian from Newborn Bay the Prime Minister can 136 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: share in the cheapest, simplest and fairest health insurance scheme 137 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Australia's ever had. 138 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Now Elbow's gunning for the same success with early childhood education. 139 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: And that's why we want to build a universal childcare system, simple, 140 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: affordable and accessible for every family. 141 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: There are lessons to be learned not from Medicare, but 142 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: from Canada, where a nationwide early Learning and childcare plan 143 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: was introduced in twenty twenty one. That scheme pumped more 144 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: than thirty billion dollars of federal funds into the system 145 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: in a bid to make childcare available to all families 146 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: for an average of ten dollars per day. 147 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 7: If you're a parent, you deserve affordable childcare. You need 148 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 7: affordable early learning and childcare. That's why a re elected 149 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 7: Liberal government will continue to support Canadian families by fighting 150 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 7: for ten dollars a day childcare right across the country. 151 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: The thinking was from an economic perspective that the Canadian 152 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: government would break even. Childcare that's flexible, affordable and accessible 153 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: enables parents to rejoin or contribute more to the workforce 154 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and boost productivity. But three years on, the scheme is 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: on shaky ground, with most provinces struggling to meet their 156 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: targets for new daycare spaces by the twenty twenty six deadline. 157 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Financial pressures have caused some centers to close or pull 158 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: out of the scheme, sending fees in the opposite direction. 159 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Childcare workers and early childhood educators are leaving the sector 160 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: in droves, with many saying they're underpaid and underappreciated, and 161 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: waiting lists have blown out all over the country, meaning 162 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: kids from low income and poor families could miss out altogether. 163 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: So could the same thing happen in Australia. Here's Sarah Eisen. 164 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: Labour's feeling confident, particularly because they have a plan in 165 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: place regarding workforce that rests quite heavily on two things, 166 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: which is WAYGE rises that have been pumping through for 167 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: some time now, the Good Start Early Learning WAYGE rise 168 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: of ten percent just this month. And also migration settings. 169 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: Plenty of really clear migration pathways for people to work 170 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 4: in the sector. So while demand might be really high, 171 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: they're hopeful that by investing directly and even owning centers, 172 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,239 Speaker 4: coupled with getting people to actually work in the industry 173 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: will mean that they can meet this demand. 174 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: It's ambitious, it's a gamble. 175 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: Is it a risk, Absolutely, but it's one that Labor 176 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: reckons it can figure out. 177 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Albanize said on Wednesday that Labour's pledged to make childcare 178 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: cheaper was the single biggest policy commitment the party made 179 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: in the run up to the last election. 180 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: In our first term, we're brought down the cost of 181 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 3: childcare for over one million families and we're boosting the 182 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: wages of up to two hundred thousand early educators by 183 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: that fifteen percent. 184 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Labour's popularity has plummeted in recent months as voters struggle 185 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: under a cost of living crisis. So the question now 186 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: becomes will it win votes when Australians go to the 187 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: polls in twenty twenty five. 188 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: Look, I think it might be a big part of 189 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: where some young families put their vote, only because the 190 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: Coalition doesn't currently have an alternative vision in that particular space. 191 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: And now this isn't just about the latest announcement we've 192 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: got this week. This is also about the nearly five 193 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: billion pumped in the first budget that gave families up 194 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 4: to ninety percent of a subsidy for those on the 195 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: really low income spectrum eight thousand or less, and it 196 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: covered families up to five hundred and thirty thousand dollars 197 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: for a household income. So Labour's saying, this is everything 198 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: we're doing for mums and dads and we are the 199 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: ones who've got a vision for you. 200 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 5: I think that's compelling. However, at the same time. 201 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: Even though Labor's put in all of these different things, 202 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: the costs of childcare has been going up. 203 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,479 Speaker 5: It's been eating away. 204 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: At all the benefits Labors delivered, so people aren't really 205 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: feeling this in their back pocket, so it might not 206 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: be that committing an argument either. It's really up to 207 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: what is going on family to family, but I don't 208 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: think it won't sway anyone. I think there's a chance 209 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: of getting a few votes, the question is how many. 210 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Sarah Eison is a political reporter with The Australian. 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