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Speaker 1: This is the fits in with Her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys aware of an artist by the name

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Speaker 2: of pink.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the one that does the flying back flip?

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Speaker 3: She had the upside down exclamation mark.

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Speaker 1: That's her, that's the one.

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Speaker 2: She's in Sydney or she's just performed in Sydney and amazing,

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Speaker 2: so good, she said, such a good time down in Australia.

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Speaker 2: We spoke to her as well before she started her

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Speaker 2: tour and she brought the family with her. Carrie came

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Speaker 2: down and also the kids. You've got Willow and Jamison

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Shommy, what's the song that you love your daughter? Didn't you?

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Speaker 2: Tom Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I guess. So they just lost my boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where he's gone.

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Speaker 4: When Tommy goes to a karaoke bar in his leathers

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you hear no no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: No no.

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Speaker 1: You know that you're in real.

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Speaker 2: Good is a great?

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Speaker 6: Do you do it like this?

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Speaker 2: You're bringing up it is okay. So she's posted a

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Speaker 2: video to and ten point seven million Instagram followers. This

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Speaker 2: was at a course stadium in Sydney the other night

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Speaker 2: and it shows it's it's side of stage, so I

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Speaker 2: think carry the husband is filming this, but Willow got

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Speaker 2: up for what the sunshine.

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Speaker 6: Shine, beautiful song.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful song. And you can see there's a moment where

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Speaker 2: Pink's like looking at Willow, going, I'm so proud of you,

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Speaker 2: my daughter, my first born. Have a look how proud

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Speaker 2: I am of you. And then Carrie pans around with

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Speaker 2: a video camera and there's Jamison on a seat just

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Speaker 2: with his head back and a bottle of water just

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Speaker 2: in his isn't that.

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Speaker 1: Second the second kid is always a bit skimmity. The

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Speaker 1: second kit behavior is just.

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Speaker 6: So there's not the pressure on the second shild do

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Speaker 6: you think, well, I don't. You can't call them spare.

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Speaker 2: I love it. So this is what we're taking this morning,

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Speaker 2: thirteen twenty fourteen. You go on to the running for

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Speaker 2: first class and fifty k firstborn versus second born born,

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Speaker 2: and I want you to give me examples. I'll give

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Speaker 2: you an example. Quite a few years ago I spoke

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Speaker 2: about this on air. So my firstborn, Houston decided to

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Speaker 2: ask his brother to play Yatzi with him, and the

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Speaker 2: second born stabbed him in the leg with a pencil

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Speaker 2: because he was losing it yacht classic.

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Speaker 1: Second born just gets worse, and worse does and.

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Speaker 6: The second child's always the one who flips the monopoly ball.

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Speaker 2: Firstborn Huey got emotional years ago with a haircut when

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Speaker 2: it was cut too short on the sides. Lenny got

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Speaker 2: angry that his Ratstarle wasn't long enough. I had the salon.

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Speaker 1: Kays in Marsden Park. Are your kids the opposite? Are they?

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Speaker 7: K Yes?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they are quite quite different to one another.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us an example, k.

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Speaker 8: So, my older one she likes to play with her

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Speaker 8: younger sister, but their younger sisters like one. She says, no,

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Speaker 8: there's no way that she's going to go and say

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Speaker 8: with her that way. My older ones, Oh, you have

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Speaker 8: to be nice. I come and play with me and

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Speaker 8: play together. I let you have a Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe the second child is a bit more temperamental,

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Speaker 3: like throwing things, pulling hair.

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Speaker 2: Okay, von in Spring Farmer, your kids different, Vaughon. Give

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Speaker 2: us an example.

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Speaker 9: So I get a phone call from school and one

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Speaker 9: gets straight A's one is amazing, winning all end of

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Speaker 9: your awards. Second one hunches and gets suspended.

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Speaker 1: Because they feel they have to fight. They're born into

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Speaker 1: the world as a fighter, fighting for attention, fighting for acceptance.

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Speaker 1: The second kid is loose for a reason.

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Speaker 9: She takes no nonsense, so she warns this child and

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Speaker 9: then born.

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Speaker 2: But it's been proven as well that most champions in

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Speaker 2: certain fields sports are usually younger siblings. Are they really

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Speaker 2: get brought up tough?

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Speaker 6: Yep, tough, But what about the eldest child. I think

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Speaker 6: it's very tough to be the elderly, very tough. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Little is a legend.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen twenty fourteen, firstborn versus your second born, Louise in Camden.

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Speaker 2: How different are your kids?

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Speaker 5: Well, my our eldest has just started kindergarten this year

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Speaker 5: and she's a staunch raw follower and she got an

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Speaker 5: award for diligence last week, of course, And that same

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Speaker 5: afternoon I went to preschool to kick out by our

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Speaker 5: three year old and the daycare teacher said to me, oh,

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Speaker 5: we just want to talk to you. Yeah, your son

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Speaker 5: said like f and hell to us today.

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Speaker 1: A three year old.

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Speaker 6: But where is he getting that from?

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Speaker 1: It is pretty bad at daycare.

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Speaker 5: Well, when I'm happy, Sorry, I'm going to put my

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Speaker 5: husband in the ship now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've just sworn again lowism.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh my god, Oh it's the hobby with the steel.

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Speaker 5: It's actually Siri because he actually has his text messages

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Speaker 5: go through his car and then Kerry read it out

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Speaker 5: one of the text messages and had in it. So

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Speaker 5: then he just says for everybody if he hears Siri, oh,

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Speaker 5: Siri says.

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Speaker 2: Hell look.

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Speaker 5: And our daughter would actually never.

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Speaker 2: Ever do that, James in Campbelltown different between what's the

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Speaker 2: difference between firstborn and Segaborne, Jim.

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Speaker 7: My firstborn is very quiet, we'll play lego quietly, put

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Speaker 7: it all together. My second born will wait in waiting

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Speaker 7: the last block goes in, then she'll run through like

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Speaker 7: King Kong destroyers.

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Speaker 2: And then it's disaster time.

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Speaker 1: I know that feeling, James.

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Speaker 4: We do when we try to play.

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Speaker 7: Like w W E all over the blounders.

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Speaker 6: That is so funny.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? There is a There is an

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Speaker 2: element of pride that you have there, aren't you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I guess so you want you want kids to be

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Speaker 3: full of spirit, don't you. I mean that's what that is.

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Speaker 2: Linda and Baycroft, what's the difference between your kids.

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Speaker 8: Firstborn sitting on the lound room floor watching TV.

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Speaker 10: A two year old brother climbs up the back of

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Speaker 10: the lounge. Don't book his.

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Speaker 8: Brother around the neck and slams into the floor.

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Speaker 1: Take down. It's a serious takedown, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: He just wants to be loved you first, Yes, what

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Speaker 6: do you scream?

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Speaker 1: And then what is the is it her second?

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Speaker 3: I have a sister Rebecca, and then a brother Stuart,

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Speaker 3: and then another sis.

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Speaker 2: So who's who's the second born?

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Speaker 1: Who's That's why she's the successful.

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Speaker 3: Back, That's who she was. She was a bit kind

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Speaker 3: of a bit more rebellious at school.

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Speaker 1: I think she sort of helps you organize your life.

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Speaker 3: Now, so she's I don't know what you're talking about together,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you Oh yeah, she's the organized one.

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Speaker 1: And she's a very clever one.

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Speaker 6: Oh thanks.

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Speaker 2: Did she What was the worst that she got into travel?

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Speaker 2: Did she get suspended from school?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if she got suspended, but I always

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Speaker 3: know she would fight with mum in the kitchen about

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Speaker 3: wearing too much Misscara to school. That was always the

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Speaker 3: big deal. But that was unfair. I had an unfair

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Speaker 3: advantage because I went to work and had mascara put

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Speaker 3: on yeah, she had to wear herschool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, let's look for Chavonne and Maroubra quickly, Chevill.

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Speaker 4: What's the difference between your kids?

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Speaker 10: These are my second born sister's kids. Firstborn academic excellence.

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Speaker 10: Second born started school, put a set of craft eyes

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Speaker 10: inside these ears and told his mom he was trying

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Speaker 10: to work out what was going on inside's head.

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Speaker 1: He wins, he wins, doesn't he? How good is that?

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