WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 21 May 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.480 Lately. 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:08.959 Welcome late, what it's great to have your company. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.520 I'm James macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond. Coming 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.800 up a little later, one of those only in America stories. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.000 Get this, people in San Francisco who are homeless will 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.560 be given taxpayer funded vodka shots as a way of 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.120 improving their health. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.320 Get me to sand friends. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.560 It's going to be homeless. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.160 It's a good time to be I'm not joking. That's 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.200 real news. We'll talk about that a little later. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.559 Plus, when we get to the papers, Anthony Albanesi reveals 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:40.080 his timetable for the next election, and the Adelaide Advertiser 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.240 reckons they've found South Australia's most unlucky woman. I thought 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.360 that was the woman who failed to date you, Caleb. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.760 There's quite a few of them, kidding a few of them. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.600 Apparently they've found a lady who's gone for five hundred 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.280 job interviews, all without success. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:59.200 We'll talk about what. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.840 That means for unimp deployment a little later, but first, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.240 you might have expected the death of Iran's president in 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.840 a helicopter to be welcome news. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.240 I mean, he was, after all, known as. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.280 The butcher of Tehran, and yet such as the moral 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.920 fog now enveloping the West his death, this murderous tyrant 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.360 was actually mourned by the United Nations, no less by 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.560 the BBC and even on the floor of the US Senate. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.080 President Imrahem Razi was responsible for the imprisonment and execution 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.560 of tens of thousands of political opponents. More recently, he 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.280 was responsible for a violent crackdown on women and girls 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.959 whose only crime was not wanting to wear the Islamic hijab. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.760 He oversaw Iran's nuclear weapons program, of course, which was 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.480 aimed at the destruction of Israel. And speaking of Israel, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.800 he was responsible recently for that massive missile and drone attack, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.560 the largest drone attack in history, launched again against Israel. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.080 It wasn't exactly Mother Teresa. Heck, he wasn't even George Floyd. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.919 And yet the United Nations Security Council had everybody stand 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.360 to their feet and observe a moment of silence to 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.480 mourn his passing. Little wonder, the Israeli ambassador to the 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.080 United Nations was less than impressed. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.280 The UN Security Council dedicated a moment of silence in 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.760 memory of the mass murdering president of Iran RACI. What 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.800 a disgrace This Council, which has taken no real steps 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.200 to advance the release of our hostages, abowed its head 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.240 for a man responsible for massacring and murdering thousands in Iran, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.760 in Israel and around the globe. What's next? Will the 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.400 Council dedicate a moment of silence to commemorate Hitler? The 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.840 Security Council has become a threat to global peace and security. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:57.520 Now. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.640 Those who stood to mourn the passing of the Iranian 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:06.919 president included America's ambassador to the United Nations. When Matt Miller, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.720 the US State Department spokesman, was asked why did the 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.040 US representative stand, he said, and I quote some of 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.640 the worst human rights abuses occurred during his tenure as president, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.119 especially the human rights abuses against the women and girls 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.800 of Iran. That said, we regret any loss of life. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.480 We don't want to see anyone die in a helicopter crowd. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.000 And I guess the big mistake. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.680 Mate, I've got a list of names that would have 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.320 crammed aboard had I known the thing was going to 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.040 go down. What is this talk pretending like all lives 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.440 are equal, and we'd hate to be seen to rejoice 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.800 over a set the loss of some lives are an 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.160 absolute service to humanity. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.040 Do me a favor. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.680 Hitler shouldn't have shot himself in the head. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.440 He should have gone down in a helicopter and history 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:53.640 would have been very different. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:53.800 Look. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.800 Look, shortly after they had Osama bin Laden killed, they 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.480 should have all come out and said. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.280 Oh, we're very sorry we had to do that. You know, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.040 loss of life. We don't like it. It is utterly. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.360 Absurd and like the comparison to Hitler is a stark one, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.960 but it's so true. I mean, this bloke was a murderous, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.360 dictatorial thug going all the way back to the eighties, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.120 his involvement in the killing of political dissidence for all 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.880 those decades, and that anyone in any Western nation, let 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.040 alone any other part of the world, would stand up 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.200 at the moment and dedicate a moment silence or talk 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.840 about how sorry they are for the people who around him. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.719 And even NATO got in honor. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.920 They said, this is the NATO spokesperson Farah Dakkala, our 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.120 condolences to the people of Iran for the death of 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:49.240 President Raci. Foreign Minister Amir Abdolihan and others who perished 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.359 in the helicopter crash. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.359 How many times do I have to tell you NATO 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.080 are the original bad guys since nineteen eighty nine. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.960 None of you ever agree with me. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.520 But when they start showing their colors like that, you're like, oh, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:03.080 wait a. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.960 Minute, maybe they're no better than the UN. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.040 Yeah, okay, okay, okay. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.800 But but Iran and NATO were on different sides of 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.120 the Ukraine Russia War. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.320 But we were not going to open I'm not. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.920 I'm simply saying. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.320 We're not going to open that CAD. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.960 I understand, I understand, And even the US Senate, for 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.640 Heaven's sake, I mean, their chaplain got up and spoke 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.120 about you know, we're so sorry for the loss of life. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.839 I'm expecting this treatment when I cart it. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:39.239 And Lord, we pray for the Iranian people who mourn 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:46.960 the death of their president. We pray in your loving name. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.920 Actually, I think in Iran it's going something more like this. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.719 And of course they'd be happy to see the bloat dead, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.400 the subjugation of women, the killing of people who disagreed 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.240 with him. Why would anyone celebrate? I was going to say, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.400 celebrate the death. Everyone should be celebrating the death. Why 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.960 would anyone commemorate the death of a man like that. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.680 It reminds me of when Fidel Castro finally carct it 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.640 and you had all these lefties coming out and oh, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.560 it's so sad. What a terrible moment for Cuba, What 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.440 a terrible moment for the world. You know, the man 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.720 that caused eighty thousand Cubans to flee on boats, most 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.360 of whom died at sea, Who put gays in internment camps, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.440 who kept Cuba behind for so long, to the point 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.360 where they're still driving around in nineteen fifties cars because 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.480 there's nothing else they can get around in, where there's 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.440 internet censorship. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.320 On and on it goes. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.160 These people get lionized. I do not cry for one 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.440 moment for the fact that the president of Iran is dead, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.120 or any other dictatorial thug in the world. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.440 They should all be popped off. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.000 The only people who are genuinely mourning his passing are 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:04.440 the friends and family of the people the innocence he murdered, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.480 who were in fact holding out hope that one day 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.480 he would face some sort of justice for the crimes 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:17.480 against humanity that he perpetuated on their nearest and dearest. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.560 But get this from the BBC world. These guys call 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.160 themselves the world's most trusted international news broadcaster. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:27.600 Get their headline. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:33.200 They say, President Ibrahim Racey's mixed legacy in Iran? 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.080 What the heck is mixed about it? 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:42.040 The murder part, the right part, the mass executions part. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.480 I mean, in order for it to be mixed, there's 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.520 got to be some good in there somewhere, right, What 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.880 the heck about it is a mixed BBC. Well, thank 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.520 god for Community Notes, which was slapped on their tweet 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.560 version of that headline, which quickly made sure everyone knew 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.400 that Ibrahim races Name was the butcher of Tehran as 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.120 a result of his mass murder and brutal torture of 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:11.400 political dissidence, his victims, numbering in the thousands, included children. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.320 Once again, thank you to Elon Musk for his platform 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.360 X where we can actually let people know the truth 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.600 of the matter. This is literally like saying Stalin's mixed 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.520 legacy in Russia. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.200 Find me one Russian who likes the guy. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.920 And let's keep in mind when we talk about the 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.680 tens of thousands of political dissidents that this guy oft. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:41.320 They were simply disagreeing with the radical Islamic regime that 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:46.000 is in place iron clad in that country. Like you said, Mac, 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.480 all you have to do is not where you're head 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.000 covering properly, and that's your life gone. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.960 Talking about the Iranian president's mixed legacy, it's like describing 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.680 Idio min as a colorful character. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.920 I mean, that's the sort of language. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.840 Give my dear. Yes, I know, I know you think 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.360 of the Iran of like the nineteen sixties versus the 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.760 Iran of Todship and how much it has changed and 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.760 what people like him did to drive that change. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.320 The fact that anyone. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.120 In the West would mourn his death is an absolute disgrace. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.880 Let's come back to Australia now, where, of course, we've 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.880 been talking a febit recently about the Safety Commissioner Julie 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.800 Inman Grant. After first she went after a bloke on 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.920 X of course, formerly Twitter goes by the screen name 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.320 of Billboard Chris, who dared to make some criticism of 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.320 the UN for a transgender person it had employed to 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.400 advise it on health. This person, meanwhile, I'd been posting 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.440 on Instagram about bestiality and all sorts of things. And 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.760 then of course she went after X again for allowing 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.680 videos to be posted of Bishop mah Mai am Manuel 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.760 being stabbed at his church about a month ago. Of course, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.720 in the first instance they won that case in court. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.000 There was an injunction put in place where those videos 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.040 had to be covered up. Last week that was changed 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:07.199 and thank goodness. But it turns out the E Safety Commissioner, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.959 apart from running around telling people on the other side 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.120 of the world what they should and should not be 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.599 able to post on X for people to view in Australia, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.560 she's also monitoring absolutely everything that. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:20.719 You say about her. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:25.160 Now, look, it's not unusual for organizations, media organizations, government 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.560 departments to have what we call media monitoring where they 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.000 people sit there and listen to the radio and go 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.600 through newspapers and look for mentions of government departments. But 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.640 they have contracted someone. The E Safety Commissioner has contracted 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:43.000 someone to go through every single tweet that is posted 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.840 with Julie Inman Grant tagged or mentioned in it. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.880 They are not just tweet So if. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.960 You write on Facebook about her, so any of the 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.720 meta platforms, Instagram, even Reddit. This is literally even if 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.240 you have a private blog that mentions her that's what 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.240 meltwater this contractor that they've got to do this. So 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.200 it's not just X, it's every platform on social media. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:10.640 She wants to know what you've said. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.360 They're going through all of it, right, they want to 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.600 know what you're saying about her, when you're saying it, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.200 why you're saying it. And they've even gone down The 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.960 allegation is they've gone down to the minutia of the 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.280 people who have been posting it. This is a story, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.439 by the way, from an independent journalist in Wa, Rebecca Barnett. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.640 She sent off an FOI request to find out whether 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.680 these reports existed, and of course they came back and 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.640 she has since written an article about it, which went 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:36.880 up today on. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:37.920 Her substack blog. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.800 But she has spoken to a bloke who was putting 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.680 stuff on Twitter about Billboard Chris when the e Safety 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.240 Commissioner was going after him, and he's got evidence that 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.840 the E Safety Communite, well know, probably not Julian mcgrand herself, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.800 but staff of the Safety Commissioner had gone and had 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.720 a look at his wife's LinkedIn Because of course, when 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.719 you get and have a look at someone's LinkedIn, it 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.520 sends them a little email to say that they've looked. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.120 At your profile. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.240 So they are that concerned that they are going into 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.360 the minutii of the family of people who criticize the 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:17.880 E Safety Commissioner online. That is how much they care. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.319 So you know they'll probably have an injunction against them 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.040 very soon as well. You can't say anything at all anywhere. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.040 According to the FOI request, she's getting three to four 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:31.760 reports every day containing between seventy and eight thousand mentions 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.840 anywhere on social media. You talk about people being obsessed 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.520 with social media. With the E Safety Karen, she's very 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.760 concerned to know what everybody thinks about her and tweets 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.520 even that we're viewed by just two people, and yet 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.640 she is personally notified who's saying nasty things about her. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.880 I think the solution to this, Liz, is we should 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.160 bury her in data. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.360 We should he mention anything. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.920 On Facebook, on Twitter, just include her tag in it, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.720 so that she's just inundated with so much information it 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:00.520 becomes useless. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.240 She's got to be. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.360 The most sensitive authoritarian ever. This woman's got thinner skin 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.000 than he for a rog I mean, he literally lays 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.320 out the numbers. On the fifteenth of April, which was 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.880 the day of the stabbing, two hundred and thirty nine mentions, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.120 that's all she had online, Not many people, not much action. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.880 Less than ten days later, on the twenty fourth of April, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:29.120 there was over thirty one thousand mentions. So whoever's doing 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.360 that job at e Safety now going through these massive 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.920 reports of who said what about the East Safety Commissioner today, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.320 they're probably gonna need to onboard more staff. And of 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.880 course there's not many nice comments, is there, because Australians 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.559 like never before, are now aware that this woman exists, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.040 that our government has foisted onto us, this net nanny that. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.840 Nobody voted for, nobody wanted. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.600 Who's just silently censoring what Australians Kennon can't see and 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.800 ken And can't say. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.320 That is her job. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.560 And it turns out she's doing a brilliant job, except 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.920 when she gets herself international attention like this because her 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.520 overreach is so unhinged, not a single soul in Australa 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.640 is like, yeah, back your Julian mngrant could call on 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:25.320 the whole stabbing video thing. No, everyone's just like you're ridiculous. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.040 I mean, there were even people on ABC's Q and 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.200 A who I mean, must be a cold day in hell. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.240 We don't agree on much. I'm sure we can all 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.920 agree on that who were questioning the wisdom of how 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.240 far this woman had gone to censor something that literally 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.880 was not worth the censorship. But get this, as this 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.480 affidavit has come out telling everyone about what melt water 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.560 is doing. By the way, how much is that costing 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.200 the taxpayer, we find out something else is costing the 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.960 taxpayer because then E Safety has gone all these nasty 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.320 comments online. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.520 The East Safety Commissioner isn't safe. 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.760 They've got the AFP involved, the New South Wales Police 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:08.960 Force involved. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.320 Again, thanks taxpayer. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.560 All for this woman that again nobody wanted. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.640 Everyone hates her job. We all agree she shouldn't even exist, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.240 not her personally, but the job, the role. Okay, let's 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.240 be careful about that. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:28.320 But how are Australians supposed to feel knowing that every 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.600 word we say about this very sensitive authoritarian woman is 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:38.880 being collated, studied, presented several times a day. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.080 I mean, A, it's self obsessed and B what are 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.520 you trying to do? They've told the public it's to 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.960 monitor public sentiment. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.680 Well, I hope you're taking notes, because it sounds like. 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:51.400 You're getting plenty of it. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.160 Initially means every Australian now who's said anything untoward about 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.240 the e Safety Commissioner, who has already shown her propensity 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.520 for censorship, you're. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.600 Now on a list and do the math. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.560 At the same time, the government are pushing through their 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.720 digital identity, so I wonder if they'll connect the digital 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.720 identity with any social media violations you may have made 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.480 against the Safety Commissioner and sort of put those together. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.960 Traditionally, if you wanted to work out public sentiment, you 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.680 just get a polling company to go and do a 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.200 poll and they'd come back to in a couple of 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.520 weeks and they tell you what the public sentiment was, right, Like, 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.520 I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure there's 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.480 no one in the Prime Minister's private office who receives 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.520 a report every single day of every single social media 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.320 post that has been made about the Prime minister. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.760 Well the Prime minister does monitor? 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.320 Mean yes, well, well he lets him. That's just him 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.240 doing it. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.880 Does that's him doing it personally, I assume, But not 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.200 when he's in the back of cars because remember he doesn't. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:46.640 Have access time. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.440 Oh but media monitoring is normal. They monitor what's said 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.160 on radio, any newspapers. But I don't think that there 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.640 would be a politician in the country who is having 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.240 a report brought to them every day on every that 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.280 he said about them on social media. It takes media 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.040 monitoring to a whole new level. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.000 Speaking of a whole new level, Victorians, you might want 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.960 to start building molts around your property because today your 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.280 premiere to Center Allen decided to say that we're not 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:27.000 even ruling out giving compulsorily acquired land to this whole 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.760 Indigenous groups treaty settlement that they're working on in the 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.080 state of Victoria. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.320 We'd asked today if she would rule this out. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.080 She said, after two hundred years of colonization, where this 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.760 state took away lands in the settlement, murdered people and 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.240 took away culture. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.800 And language, we are not going to be ruling out 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.080 anything in or out. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.240 As we go to the negotiation table in regards to treaty. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.960 She said she wouldn't even rule out dedicating seats in 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.399 the Victorian Parliament to Indigenous people. 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.720 So when they say everything's. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:04.600 On the table, literally mean everything is on the table, Like, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.679 why shouldn't every single Victorian beyond tenter hooks after this 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.200 Because they're not mincing their words when they say everything's 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:13.840 on the table. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.560 It appears the Premier very much means absolutely everything. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.280 I should point out it wasn't the Premier who said that, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.320 it was the Treaty Minister Natalie Hutchins speaking on behalf 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.280 of the premier. But I reckonize, well, if they're going 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.359 to compulsorily acquire property and hand it over to the 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.159 Indigenous people in Victoria, well you would start with Jacinta 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.000 Ellen's home, followed by the Deputy Premier Ben Carroll, maybe 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.879 Dan Andrews's place. We could repossess that Manik Bryan is 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.960 in Victoria. I'm sure she'd be happy to hand over 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.880 her property. I mean, this is just unbelievable. You've got 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.240 one percent of Victoria are Indigenous people. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.080 There's zero mandate for this, and for the. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.920 Government to be negotiating a treaty on behalf of Victorian's 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.560 but refusing to rule anything in or out and making 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.960 incendiary comments like that after two hundred years of colonization 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.719 and murder and dispossession and well, everything's on the table. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.080 I mean, you would be mad if you were John Pascito, 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.080 you would be mad not to make this the key 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.679 cornerstone of your campaign at the next election. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.480 But he is mad. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.760 We're no way you do that to hope. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.160 Well he should. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.399 You'd want to hope the table isn't a trestle table, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.560 because there's a lot of bloody weight on top of 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.240 that table right now. I mean, how hard is it 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.560 to simply rule out that you would just hold us 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.840 bowl as hand land over to. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.280 Indigenous people, like you could say. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.040 Look, it may well be a discussion in the future 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.760 that through Native title there are certain lands that are handled, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.520 but that's out of the control of the SAD government. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.000 How hard is it to say, no, we're not going. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.119 To have dedicated seats in Parliament on the basis of race, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.639 and no, we're not going to hand land to certain 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.480 people on the basis of race. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.600 It ain't hard to say it, though it is. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.679 It was funny to note that Miss Hutchins, when she 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.960 was asked this question about whether or not there would 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.000 be dedicated seats for Indigenous people, she said, look, you know, 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.640 it's nothing in all out, but the sentiment I get 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.800 from indigenous people is that Parliament is a quote unquote 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.440 aggressive place and they don't really want to be here anyway, 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:11.640 by which she's saying, we're probably. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:12.480 Not going to give them the seats. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.000 But how funny is that she's buying into this idea, Oh, 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.760 you know, this is this terrible white colonial place. They 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.920 don't even want to come and engage with us. Well, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.880 they don't want to come and engage. And my understanding 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.640 of a treaty is that it is an agreement between 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.000 two peoples who then say that, you know, we've sorted 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.760 all the problems out and from here on we carry 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.199 on as one. That's what a treaty is meant to 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.239 be about. That's not what they're talking about here. What 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.840 they're talking about is furthering the division, which surely is 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.040 as far away from what a treaty ought to be. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.560 So what's going on with the Victorian government because either 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.640 they literally do not know what a treaty is going 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.960 to look like, which is frightening that they would don't 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.320 think they do headlong into this thing with no idea 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.560 what they're going to end up with. I mean, that's 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.480 the worst kind of leadership you can imagine or on 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.760 the other hand, have they got something in mind but 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.320 they don't want to upset either Indigenous people or the 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:07.359 rest of the community. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:08.879 What games are they playing here now? 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:10.560 I don't think they do have any idea. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.560