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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a bonus episode of Big Business Today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking randomly all things getting sick when you're a

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Speaker 1: business owner, which is it was not part of the plan.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can tell in my voice,

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Speaker 1: but I'm coming off the back of having influenza.

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Speaker 2: Influenza.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I went downhill last week. I came here

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Speaker 1: on Monday, all was well and good. Then I went

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Speaker 1: to work on Tuesday. You know when you start to

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Speaker 1: get a bit of a headache in the back of

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Speaker 1: your eye sockets, you know that kind of headache. And

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Speaker 1: I was at the warehouse and I said to the girls,

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Speaker 1: has anyone got neuroph And I just got a bit

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Speaker 1: of a headache. I kind of feel like I've got

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Speaker 1: something coming on. But then I was trying to psych

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Speaker 1: myself out of it, like, nah, it's just a headache,

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Speaker 1: Like I'll have neurope and not be fine. And then

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Speaker 1: it all just started to go downhill on the Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: And then I was off work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and

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Speaker 1: then I've just stayed home all weekend as well, like

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Speaker 1: just done absolutely nothing. Now it's Monday again and I'm

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Speaker 1: back in the studio and feeling probably ninety percent better,

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Speaker 1: And weirdly enough, getting sick had me reflecting on the

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Speaker 1: difference in my mentality as a business owner getting sick

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Speaker 1: versus when I used to work full time and I

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Speaker 1: would get sick from work.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: Any other business owners feel the same. I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: lot of you do. But it's just so funny the

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Speaker 1: difference in terms of how I feel about getting sick

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Speaker 1: now versus when I worked full time. So we thought,

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Speaker 1: let's do a little bonus episode and share my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: You were offline for three to four days. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: the time that I've known you. Yeah, I have never

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Speaker 3: known you to be offline.

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Speaker 2: Ever, I was really sick. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It got to the point where I was actually like,

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Speaker 3: I haven't even heard from Britain on WhatsApp. I was like,

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Speaker 3: what is going on? Because I sent you some messages

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Speaker 3: and I got no reply.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't you message me on Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: or something and I wrote back days later hello, sorry, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Was unwell and okay. So the good thing about.

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Speaker 1: Me is touch wood, touch bloody would there's no wood

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Speaker 1: in here. I never get sick. And all the work

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Speaker 1: girls say like you never get sick. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's like when you're a business owner, like you,

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Speaker 1: your mentality is telling the universe I can't afford to

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Speaker 1: get sick, therefore I don't get sick.

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Speaker 2: Kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And as the same whereas like why do employees get

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Speaker 1: sick all the time like us business owners just seem

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Speaker 1: to not.

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Speaker 3: I have a theory on this because I used to

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Speaker 3: never get sick either. Yeah, And so when I used

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Speaker 3: to tour as a performer, you couldn't afford to get

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Speaker 3: sick because you have to do your job. Like you

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Speaker 3: have to do jobs, you're always on the go. And

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Speaker 3: I feel like your body, like when you're always on

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Speaker 3: the go, you're always the one to be dependent on.

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Speaker 3: You have something that you need to like show up

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Speaker 2: Your body.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I feel like your body. There's no science

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Speaker 3: behind this, by the way, I'm eventually talking shit, it's

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Speaker 3: a conspiracy. I feel that your body just just goes

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Speaker 3: into resilience mode. Yeah, and whenever, because whenever I used

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Speaker 3: like let that kind of guard downer and I could relax. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I used to plummet, and I used to get so sick,

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Speaker 3: and it only happened like once every two years, like

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Speaker 3: it was, I never used to get sick. But that's

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Speaker 3: my little non scientific theory.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm with you on that one. I'm really lucky.

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Speaker 1: I think the last time I got sick was the

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Speaker 1: first time that I got COVID.

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Speaker 2: Would that be the last time?

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Speaker 1: Ajaj's in the room today, by the way, we were

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Speaker 1: trying to get him on the pod, but he refuses.

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Speaker 1: And so that was the last time that I got sick,

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Speaker 1: which was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That's when I got COVID.

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Speaker 1: It's now twenty twenty five, so it's been three ish

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Speaker 1: or maybe two and a half years since the last

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Speaker 1: time I got sick, and last time was COVID. This

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Speaker 1: time I thought it was COVID, but I did one

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Speaker 1: of those tests. I didn't realize the tests that I got.

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Speaker 1: It tests fair like all sorts of things, Like I

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Speaker 2: But then it's like got influenzer. Anyway, it was influenza.

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Speaker 3: I had influencer A And are you purposely saying influenza?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I was like I wouldn't have passed.

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Speaker 1: You to say influenza, and yeah, I was really unwell

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Speaker 1: and I absolutely hated every second of it. And it

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Speaker 1: just got me thinking, you know, back in the day

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Speaker 1: when I would work jobs that I hated, and thinking

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Speaker 1: back to my last full time jobs that I had

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Speaker 2: Of getting sick because I wouldn't have to go to.

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Speaker 1: Work, and I think that's like a normal thing, Like

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Speaker 1: don't know about u Zaner, and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'd be like yes, like I wasn't excited at the

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Speaker 1: it's the most inconvenient, worst thing in the world as

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Speaker 2: Like I just wanted to be better. I hated that

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Speaker 2: I wasn't at work.

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Speaker 1: I'm emailing kind of the people that needed to email

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Speaker 1: every day, like calling in sick, being like I'm sick again.

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Speaker 1: Everyone like I'm so sorry, message me if you need

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Speaker 1: and it's just so interesting like that shift in mindset,

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Speaker 1: and I think, reflecting on that, I feel extremely fortunate

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Speaker 1: clearly enjoy enough where I'm bummed if I'm feeling unwell

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Speaker 3: That's the thing I think emailed it is that probably

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Speaker 2: The job exactly.

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Speaker 3: And look, no one wants to work, like no one

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Speaker 3: into our accounts without doing anything, I'd be bloody great. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if you're in a job where you genuinely enjoy it, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and like, to be honest, I don't want to get sick.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot to do here, but I enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's goal.

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Speaker 1: Because I said this on my Instagram story yesterday when

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Speaker 1: that like, if I was ever sick, that i'd have

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Speaker 2: And I know that, like.

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Speaker 1: Some people were like, well, I'll never achieve that kind

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Speaker 1: I wish that I could be out instead of being sick.

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Speaker 1: But it took me figuring out that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: Become become my own boss.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I'm coming off the back of influencer, okay, but

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Speaker 1: it is achievable to get yourself into a position, whether

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Speaker 2: What do you can about me having a.

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Speaker 3: Sort You're just so out of sorts today, and it's correct, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Fucking here and I'm showing up. I wasn't calling in

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Speaker 3: Do you as a CEO, boss, what do you have

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing to think about if

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something really important that we need

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Speaker 2: Enough that they aren't relying on you.

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Speaker 1: And of course that's going to look different for everyone

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think back to the early days

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Speaker 1: of Fate, it was very much Brittany, Am I right

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Speaker 1: to do this? Am I right to do that? What

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Speaker 1: do you think of this?

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Speaker 2: As this? Okay?

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Speaker 1: But over the years I've definitely stepped away more and

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Speaker 1: allowed my team to build their own self confidence in

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Speaker 1: making decisions so that they're not constantly coming to me

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Speaker 1: asking for a approval on everything. So I'd say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you are well and not healthy, think of what's

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Speaker 1: to give them the confidence? It is just bullying me today.

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Speaker 3: You can bully me soon, trust me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, But yeah, build up your team's confidence in

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Speaker 1: the instance that you might not be there one time.

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Speaker 1: But what if something terribly tragic happens and you're not

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Speaker 1: You know, I had three days off and I was like, oh,

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