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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always

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Speaker 2: Land Patricks, I'm out and I'm Sal And this is

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Speaker 2: two Boat Chicks, the show that shares tips and tricks

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Speaker 2: and life lessons to be rich in life.

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Speaker 1: And today is a.

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Speaker 3: Very exciting episode and Sal has no idea why because

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Speaker 3: she does not know who the fuck our guest is.

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Speaker 4: Today, Guys, I need to tell you something.

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Speaker 3: So we are going to be talking all the things

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Speaker 3: that it's never too late for a gap year, because

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Speaker 3: a gap ye provides the opportunity and freedom to find

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Speaker 3: purpose and address challenges because we really get pushed like

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Speaker 3: the same narrative and it's basically like high school graduate, UNI,

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Speaker 3: full time work, marriage, house babies. Not everyone's narrative has

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Speaker 3: to look the same. Your trajectory and your timeline does

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Speaker 3: not have to look the same, but there is definitely

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Speaker 3: one that is idolized. And we've also very typically said

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Speaker 3: that we have followed that timeline up until like a

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Speaker 3: certain point, like we did the high school graduate, UNI,

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Speaker 3: full time work thing, and we've said as well that

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Speaker 3: if we took other pathways that also, like I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of regret that I didn't take a gap year. Same

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Speaker 3: And the purpose of this is for those people that

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Speaker 3: are either contemplating like taking a break or like.

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Speaker 1: Pausing on that timeline.

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Speaker 3: To help see how to do it. How you may

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Speaker 3: be some affordable tips and like ways that you can

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Speaker 3: take a pause from the timeline and just check in

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Speaker 3: and see what you really want in life.

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Speaker 1: But who the fuck is this game?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: I have honestly no clue. And also I'm like, is

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Speaker 5: Alex like kind of edging me in to the news

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Speaker 5: that she wants to take a gh my coach it

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Speaker 5: and today's guest is actually my new co host.

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Speaker 3: You'd probably once you meet them, you'll probably fire me.

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Speaker 1: You'll be like, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 5: No, we'll make it a three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, as we said, we also haven't had a

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Speaker 3: gap year, we haven't had the break. So we're calling

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Speaker 3: in back up for this episode to help talk us

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Speaker 3: through their gap year.

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Speaker 5: Someone who has been through it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they found what they wanted to do, and

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Speaker 3: I would say they're pretty fucking successful for it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so wait, I don't have my glasses on.

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Speaker 1: So coming into the studio, we have bring.

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Speaker 7: God to But welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Brian thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so exciting, very good, surprise.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to talk to you about this because

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Speaker 3: before sound I was saying, like, we actually did the

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Speaker 3: wrong way of life.

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Speaker 1: Because we've done it all wrong.

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Speaker 3: We've done it all wrong, but we've never taken a

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Speaker 3: gap year. And I think it's probably one of my

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Speaker 3: biggest not I wouldn't say regrets because it's never too late,

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Speaker 3: and that's the whole point of this episode, is like,

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Speaker 3: but I definitely think it's something that not enough people

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Speaker 3: being like, oh I wish I did that. I wish

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Speaker 3: and then feeling like they don't have the time. But

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Speaker 3: you did go on a gap year and you really

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Speaker 3: found a lot during that.

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Speaker 6: Time, Oh for sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: How old were you when.

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Speaker 8: You're eighteen year straight after high school?

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Speaker 5: Like, that's such a good time.

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Speaker 3: To do it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd always wanted to do it, Like I always

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Speaker 8: had wanted to go to drama school, but I knew

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Speaker 1: Yeah did you do drama in high school?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, well true?

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Speaker 1: Did you like drama in high school.

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Speaker 8: Not really not heaps, to be honest, like, but I

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Speaker 6: To, we did like actual shows. We did like four

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Speaker 6: I did like Macbeth. We did Macbeth.

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Speaker 8: And and there we did like a musical that one

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Speaker 5: High school musical.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was very high school musical musical.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, But I kind of I always knew I wanted

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Speaker 1: So where did you go?

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Speaker 6: Where did I go?

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Speaker 3: We also, just by the time this episode comes out,

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Speaker 6: First ever.

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Speaker 1: First I know your virgins. I actually scared whenever we

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Speaker 5: It's just tectic, just like the innovation need to be

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Speaker 3: Obviously you knew what you wanted to do before going

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Speaker 3: on the gap year, But how did you kind of

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Speaker 3: when you're eighteen, you're still a baby.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's a I think. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 8: When you turn eighteen, I feel like you feel as

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Speaker 8: But it's funny now looking back, like now I'm twenty

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Speaker 8: Like a lot of the time when people jump into

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Speaker 8: they're like, I don't want to do this anymore. This

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Speaker 8: isn't what I'm actually interesting Because you can mean in

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Speaker 8: something when you like throughout high school when you're eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that into practice. It is so different.

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Speaker 3: It's not what you think what was going to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: was there anything you wanted to do before? You wanted

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Speaker 8: Not really, I wanted to be like an archaeologist when

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Speaker 5: Same Jurassic Park and Harry Potter on the same.

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Speaker 6: It was Indiana Jones and Harry Potter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a controversial crush right there.

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Speaker 5: And you're giving like draco vibes.

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Speaker 8: But since I was like eight, I knew that I

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Speaker 6: But even though acting is a super.

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Speaker 8: I just know that's it's what I want to do,

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Speaker 8: and so I've just always wanted to pursue it.

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Speaker 3: How do you stay on the same track, like that's

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Speaker 1: Coaster because that's acting.

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Speaker 3: As fellow actors you know Lespians. You know, we did drama,

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Speaker 3: I did the high school talent.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, how did you navigate that roller coaster that

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Speaker 8: So I feel like for anyone who does want to

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Speaker 3: this like seven thousand times an episode, But you're just

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Speaker 3: I feel like that really encourages you because we.

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Speaker 1: But then when you kind of pull it back, you're

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Speaker 3: Like obviously yes, like being able to pay your bills matters,

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Speaker 1: What were some of the life lessons that you had.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a lot of it's about independence and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, or even like just acting like a tourist in

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Speaker 8: They're just like saying how it is when I was

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's go see the whatever.

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Speaker 8: I slept on, Like I went to a festival, seven

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Speaker 6: I don't know why.

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Speaker 8: Your dad he was like, take this, if you just

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Speaker 5: I've been waiting eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's got like a baby.

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Speaker 5: I was like, my father, I imagine at the end

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, can we have the piece of God?

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Speaker 3: Way?

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Speaker 6: Do you know?

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Speaker 1: So he's on a piece of cardboard.

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Speaker 6: To be the headline. Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 6: That was pretty wild.

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Speaker 8: I was going to Pompey and I couldn't speak any

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Speaker 6: It was very sweet.

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that makes you the best candidate though,

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Speaker 6: Are the bottom and then you can just like yeah, it's.

450
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 5: It's actually not it's not going to be that bad.

451
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 5: Like if you get on the wrong train.

452
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 8: I won't have to sleep, especially now, like it's so

453
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 8: much like you can get a SIMS.

454
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 6: Now that's a really good tip.

455
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 8: It's crazy, Like last time I went, I just had

456
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 8: an aim the whole time. You just have data because

457
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 8: you can just use WhatsApp and whatever to call people.

458
00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 6: I message like.

459
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,479
Speaker 5: You don't have to fuck around, I need to get

460
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 5: a SIM.

461
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's a bit more expensive, but like it's

462
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 8: worth it's yeah, And that's the thing as well, I

463
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 8: guess about what I did, Like I really didn't have

464
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 8: to like that much money, Like I had just enough

465
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 8: to like get by, and if you you know, if

466
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 8: you go to hostels and as well, I guess that's

467
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 8: the good thing about doing it via kentiki or yeah,

468
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 8: organizing it that way is that you paid all and

469
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 8: then you it's done. You're like set up and then

470
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 8: you just have like whatever you need to be spending

471
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 8: on the day, Like yeah, exactly, you know your budget

472
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 8: and then you can just have your spending money. But always, yeah,

473
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 8: I would say give your parents like a grand or

474
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 8: a couple of grand just in case before you go

475
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 8: the backup?

476
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 5: Do you have any other like money saving tips aside

477
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 5: sleeping on cardboard?

478
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 6: I still do it to this day.

479
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess it's I don't know. Whenever I have

480
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 8: to have a goal in mind when I'm saving or whatever,

481
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 8: like I if I don't, I find it really hard.

482
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 8: But it's the same with anything, Like if you have

483
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 8: a goal, then it's easy. And so it's it's like

484
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 8: remembering it's like, oh, okay, am I going to spend

485
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 8: one hundred bucks this weekend going out? Or am I

486
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 8: going to spend one hundred bucks for like four days

487
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 8: when I mean Greek Island or like, it's just like

488
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 8: having that foresight to be like I want to spend

489
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 8: this now?

490
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 6: Do I want to?

491
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 3: Just kind of I feel like a lot of the

492
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: time as well, the expensive thing versus the thing that's

493
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: like maybe a little bit more budget.

494
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: The expensive thing's never as fun as the budget one.

495
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: Like I feel like you get more of like a

496
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 3: vibe of people story. Yeah, like the it's nice like

497
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: splurge on things here and there, but like our rogus

498
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: experiences have been in like a dive.

499
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: And like the most disgusting bod climbs. Soit have you

500
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: ever had it?

501
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 6: Yeah? Exactly? You got to, Yeah, you got to lean

502
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 6: into that.

503
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: What about holiday romances? Yeah, your nay yay, I.

504
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 6: Guess I think. Yeah.

505
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 8: I well, when I was eighteen, actually I started dating

506
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 8: this girl that I hung out with in London when

507
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 8: I was on my gap year, but I knew her

508
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 8: from Sydney and she was living in London or like

509
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 8: staying in London at the time, but then throughout the

510
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 8: rest of the gap year was too shy. Yeah yeah,

511
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 8: but yeah, definitely, why don't.

512
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: You do not strike me as a shy ferst Yeah, I

513
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: don't know.

514
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 5: Do you feel like you've gotten less shy as you've

515
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: got probably Yeah.

516
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 6: I'm still definitely shy. I'm definitely still shy.

517
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 5: So you're making it till you make.

518
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 6: It right now pretty much.

519
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I.

521
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: Ever expect you to be like your character on Heartbreak high.

522
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 6: So people Yeah yeah really.

523
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 5: So they're like fuck you after this season?

524
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe less so.

525
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been there's definitely been a shift after this

526
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 8: season came out, Like it's a lot more intense. Yeah,

527
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 8: I feel like I understand a bit more what like

528
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 8: Tom went through last season.

529
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, it's been more intense this season.

530
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

531
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 8: I think just because I had more of a like

532
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 8: romantic storyline. Yeah, it's just like the character was just

533
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 8: in a different light. Yeah, it's been great, Like the

534
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 8: reception has just been Yeah.

535
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 3: It's literally the best show Britain plays the character Spider

536
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: on Heartbreak High, which it hit number one on Netflix, didn't.

537
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 6: It in Australia. Yeah it was within the first day.

538
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that was us.

539
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, but within the first day it got to number one.

540
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 8: It was like insane, and then it was got like

541
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 8: top ten in the US this season, which was great.

542
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 8: I don't think we bracked it last time in all

543
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 8: these different places around the world was amazing. That was

544
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 8: the thing about traveling. Like I was in New York

545
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 8: when the first season came out. I was on the

546
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 8: subway and people like stopping me and talking to me,

547
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 8: and same in La and like crazy and then yeah

548
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 8: this time last time, I went to Europe. The same thing,

549
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 8: just like being like at like a goudy built house

550
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 8: in Spain and then someone been like, are you Spider. Yeah,

551
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 8: it's a weird It is a weird thing as well,

552
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 8: because you just feel like you've kind of perceived.

553
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 6: A lot of the time.

554
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: What was it like playing a character that is so

555
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: different to you know, your personnel.

556
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's it's so fun. It's really fun.

557
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just like like I could never That's the thing.

558
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 8: It's like, I feel like I'm so conflicted versus in

559
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 8: real life. So it's just so fun being able to

560
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 8: be like yeah.

561
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: And surely playing the villain.

562
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like I'm podcasts as the villain. Maybe

563
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 8: actually I just did it horror film and I'm not

564
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 8: not the villain.

565
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: How was that?

566
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: Okay?

567
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Is it scary?

568
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 8: This one was really interesting because it was a found

569
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 8: footage horror, so it was all like go Pros and

570
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 8: Witch Projects, which it's like Australian player Witch Projects, these

571
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 8: two influencers get it influences Verse Cannibals essentially in the

572
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 8: Blue Mountains. But because it was all because it was

573
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 8: like go pros on our chair, so like filming with

574
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 8: like a vloggin camera, there was and the and the

575
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 8: crew would literally just go and hide in the bush

576
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 8: because because we just like film like every which way,

577
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 8: so there's no lining set up, no nothing. It was

578
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 8: all raw and started like really glossy and like influency

579
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 8: and then by the end.

580
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: It's like hectic influencer play an influencer that.

581
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 8: Would have been American extreme sports influencer.

582
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god, that was actually it's monkey.

583
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: But it's going to be great. I'm really excited to see.

584
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be scary to come out

585
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 8: for me next year, I think, okay.

586
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're editing it at the moment.

587
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you welcome back to my Why have you sat

588
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: in the Blue Mountains?

589
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Always so intense?

590
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 6: It's just a scary It's like it's got a weird fire.

591
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: It does so more importantly, you were in a band,

592
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: which is so cool.

593
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: But how is that like managing? You know, being in

594
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: a band and being a successful actor.

595
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 6: Okay, I wouldn't they successful?

596
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just had a number one TV show stress.

597
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 6: You're right, you got to own it. You're right.

598
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 8: Well, up until this one has been fucking hard because

599
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 8: I've done most of the managing and booking and stuff

600
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 8: like the last We've been a band for like eight eight,

601
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 8: like since high school for a long and then I

602
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 8: went away to Perth for three years. We're going to

603
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 8: a hiatus and then COVID and stuff, so it's been

604
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 8: spread out. But now we've started working with a new

605
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 8: manager and he's so good, so good. That's just amazing

606
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 8: me able to call them like what about this thing

607
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 8: and he's like, yeah, great, okay, cool, or like.

608
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: People who can make things happen for you and they

609
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: have like the connections or they know the best way

610
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: to do.

611
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 6: He just has all the answers, and I'm like, thank you.

612
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 8: So that's huge relief, and it just gives you more

613
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 8: room to be creative as well, Like actually, I'll be like, oh,

614
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 8: what what should we do for this next like single

615
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 8: launch or this next photo shoot? And it gives your

616
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 8: brain space and not be like I need to book

617
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 8: flights and do all this accommodation the.

618
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 5: Mental load of the admin.

619
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: I feel that.

620
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 6: It's a lot, and like all the other guys help

621
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 6: out as well and stuff.

622
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 8: But like, and the last CP that we put out,

623
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 8: I kind of wrote most of it during lockdown, and

624
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 8: then you know, everyone has their own little bits and

625
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 8: stuff to it. But then this one we're all really

626
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 8: kind of writing together, which is so nice. Like I

627
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 8: think this next one that we're actually putting out is

628
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 8: the Favorite's my favorite song I've written probably, I don't know.

629
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's it's a bit different.

630
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 8: It's the same, but it's different, but it's just about

631
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 8: like coming out of a depressive period and being like

632
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 8: life's okay, I'm gonna be okay, It's all right.

633
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 6: Like it's.

634
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: Like a crying on the dance floor song.

635
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 8: I cried when I wrote it, when I wrote the lyrics, like,

636
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 8: actually I think I was really hungover. Just cry. Yeah,

637
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 8: it's very cathartic. So I reckon, there's next one?

638
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

639
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: When does it come out?

640
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 6: August? Middle of August? And put it in the cow Yeah,

641
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 6: put in the calendar. What's you like?

642
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: This is a weird question. I don't know if there's

643
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: an answer. Just don't worry. It's fine, don't get over it.

644
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: That like music, especially in a gap year or spending

645
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: time on your own, can be a really therapeutic thing massively.

646
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: But I feel like now, because we have access to

647
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: so much music, and the music toneover is really really quick,

648
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of it, I feel like we've

649
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: maybe lost the art to actually listen to music and

650
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: get embraced to music, Like I really, in myself really

651
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: can just sit on a plane and listen to all

652
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: you know, and like listen to a full album.

653
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: And I think we've lost that ability and as a musician.

654
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: I'd love to know what you know you do to

655
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: really kind of feel music and pull into music and

656
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: pull as much out of it as you can, Like

657
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: how can people kind of embrace it a little bit more?

658
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, interesting, Well, I feel like as well, like the

659
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 8: how to meet people and stuff, that's actually a really

660
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 8: good way of.

661
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 6: Doing it as well.

662
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 8: If you're into music, you know, the first thing I

663
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 8: do when I get to any city is like look

664
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 8: up the venues or like I look up a band

665
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 8: that I love and see where they played when they

666
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 8: were in Paris or whatever, and be like, Okay, so

667
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 8: that's obviously the vibe.

668
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 6: Of the venue.

669
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: That's such a good idea.

670
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 8: And then look at what's on then then like there

671
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 8: might be a band that like like semi no or

672
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Speaker 8: like don't know it all, or like.

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Speaker 6: Like when I was in New York, I.

674
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Speaker 8: Had a friend of a friend a friend who was

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Speaker 8: playing with this band called Sons of the East, and

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Speaker 8: then like hung up ended up going to them and

677
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Speaker 8: hung out with them, and then met some of the

678
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Speaker 8: Spacy Jane people, and then like.

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Speaker 6: I literally just had coffee with like the photographer who was.

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Speaker 8: With Spacy Jane then and so you just like meets

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Speaker 8: people that way music said.

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Speaker 6: It's a yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 8: Really good way because then you know, like you at

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Speaker 8: least have that in common with the people in people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also something that you can go do a

686
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Speaker 5: line and you're not going to feel yeah, and then

687
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Speaker 5: you can sort of like strike up a conversation with

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Speaker 5: someone because you have like common ground there. And then

689
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Speaker 5: if you're like, no, but I actually do just want

690
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Speaker 5: to spend time alone, you can do that too.

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Speaker 3: You've got Actually, Yeah, music is also just such a

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Speaker 3: good way to like anchor a memory.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 8: Like I have albums that I listened to like on

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Speaker 8: different trips that how like are that trip for me?

696
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Speaker 8: It's crazy listen to it and just immediately takes me

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Speaker 8: back to like to them.

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Speaker 1: It's the best. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The number one is Hawaiian Rollercoaster Road from Leylow and Steep.

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Speaker 1: That song is a fucking box.

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Speaker 6: There's that. There's this song from Surf's Up.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: That's like I'm coding.

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Speaker 6: In my nuggets. Okay, you guys are waving your friends tonight.

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Speaker 6: I am one's like open, I thank you tying. That's so.

706
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Speaker 8: Don't you only get what you get.

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Speaker 3: Well to wrap up, I honestly I could keep this

708
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Speaker 3: chat going for seven years. It has been like your

709
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: biggest life lesson on your journey so far.

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Speaker 8: I feel like this is a recent one, I guess again,

711
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 8: like something that I'm kind of working through. It's just

712
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 8: like actually being aware of boundaries, your own boundaries and

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Speaker 8: establishing them and like your values, which is just such

714
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 8: a classic like therapy talk thing, but like everyone's like,

715
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 8: oh yeah, boundaries and values, but it's like what is it?

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Speaker 6: Like I was just like, wait, what are they? What

717
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: are my values?

718
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 8: And like like finding like looking at a list of values,

719
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Speaker 8: because that's what I did, and I was like, oh shit,

720
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 8: Like like adventure is one of is like something that

721
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 8: resonates with me, Like as that's adventure within like friendships

722
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 8: or relationships or like even just within my life. And

723
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 8: it's like okay, cool. Like if like when I'm feeling

724
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 8: this like tension or whatever, it's because something's rubbing up

725
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 8: against my values or like, and I think it's a

726
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 8: good thing to have when you're traveling and saying with

727
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 8: boundaries of being like do I actually want to go

728
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 8: out tonight and do this thing? Or am I just

729
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 8: doing it because I'm I feel like I should. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think for a long time I found boundaries like

731
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Speaker 8: a difficult thing to understand. But now I listened. There's

732
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 8: this great other podcast, No, there's very different vibe called Imperfect.

733
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 6: It's so good.

734
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 8: They just did an episode on boundaries. It was very

735
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: timely with their like Psychologists episode and it was amazing

736
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 8: and she was like doctor Emily, who was the psychologist

737
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 8: that got one, was like, boundaries is just like when

738
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 8: you are out putting yourself out of your zone of

739
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 8: comfort for whatever reason, and it's like boundaries just keep

740
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 8: you within that zone. It was like, ah, that's a

741
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 8: great way of looking at it, because boundaries sounds very like.

742
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: Yes, staunch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's so fucking valuable because we recently

744
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: heard this saying as well, and it was like getting

745
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: used to just just saying that's just not going to

746
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: work for me and not having.

747
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 8: To give a reason, and it's that's what I'm really

748
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 8: working at, Like, oh, that's just like I don't need

749
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 8: like yeah, because of this, it's like you can just

750
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 8: be like I can't make it, I can't do it,

751
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 8: and if they ask, they ask, But yeah, I would

752
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 8: say that would be And I feel like that is

753
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 8: one of the good things about going with a group

754
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 8: of people that you're going to be with when you're

755
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 8: traveling throughout the whole time is you actually get to

756
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 8: know who they are and you can kind of establish

757
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 8: your boundaries within that. Like and it's also you can

758
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 8: obviously do it when you're meeting new people every time

759
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 8: and stuff, but like if you're you know, traveling, you know,

760
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 8: with a tour or whatever.

761
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Speaker 6: With contique, you kind of get.

762
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 8: To know all the people and you know, if someone

763
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 8: doesn't feel like the right five, you can be like, okay,

764
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 8: oh so maybe someone's really fun and left the party,

765
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 8: but like, Okay, this isn't the energyurney tonight I to

766
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 8: go and sleep for yeah, whatever kind of makes it a

767
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 8: bit easier.

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Speaker 1: The thing I like.

769
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Speaker 3: About the idea of ntique as well, so that blank slate,

770
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: new school really go and there's no attachment of like

771
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: who you have been, and you can really delete the

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Speaker 3: thing adventureself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I always used to say I wish I could move

775
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Speaker 3: schools and die my hair blonde, really.

776
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Just to see if.

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Speaker 6: It worked out really well.

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Speaker 1: It's not a natural blonde, expl.

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Speaker 6: Cardboard revealed too much.

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Speaker 3: So much for coming on today indulging us in.

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Speaker 6: I love it literally was like walking in.

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Speaker 2: So cool.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much, thank you, thanks having me.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the wrap on this episode of Two Broke Chicks.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having us in your ear holes chicks, we

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Speaker 3: love to be here, and thank you to m I

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Speaker 3: k A for making this episode of Two Broke Chicks happen.

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Speaker 1: Did I forget anything? That's it and started running out

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Speaker 1: of breath by Chicks