1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: I got a team. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 2: It's it's you know who, it's the it's the bloody 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: only child with a croaky voice. Yeah, a little under 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: the weather, still fighting my way out of it because 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm a fucking soldier. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Feeling a bit shite. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: So there'll be no potty, no new potty today, So 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to have a little bit of a reshare. 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: But I think tomorrow I'm going to be good. That's 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: my that's my prediction, and I'll be back with some 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: freshies for you. Apologies that it's been a little haphazard lately, 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: but I haven't been you know, haven't been my best 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: optimal self. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: So but I'm on the ment. I feel better. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: A few people have reached out and gone get better, 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: you old fuck as my friends and followers do because 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: they're all loving anyway. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Hope this finds you well. 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm on the mend. Thanks for your support and love, 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: love all of you back. I'll see you very soon. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Team It's Harps, It's Jeff Row, It's Tiffany and Cook, 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: it's the You Project. It's a pleasure chatting to you. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: We appreciate you, we love your your patronage. If that's 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: the right word. We love your listenership, we love the feedback. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: If you're not on our Facebook page, which is the 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: U Project Podcast, become a member. You know why cost nothing. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: That's one. Two, we don't sell you anything. There's no 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: fucking upsell on sale side cell that's always good. And 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: three it's a community of people who are fucking great, 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: like minded, awesome, supporty, lovey, dovey, slap you on the back, 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: support you, encourage you, and empower you towards your best 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: version of you, which sounds cheesy, but fuck, it's what 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: we all want. Tiff is the life force. She's the 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: blood that flows along with Melissa through the typ veins. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Hi, Tiff, Hi, I'm there. I'm in the group. I'm 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: in the Facebook group. You're a chatty Kathy in the 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: group too. I know I got a badge. 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, bloody should have a badge. Yeah. 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: If you want to connect with Tiff, just going there. 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: She's always sitting in the bloody shadow if it's around, 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: waiting for someone to wave cyberwave at me. 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: She needs a little love and attention. She she loves 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: somebody talking to her. Jeff Jowder, you're a member of 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: the U Project podcast Facebook group. 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: Mate, I'm literally going to jump on that straight after 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 4: this podcast. If you beat me to it. I knew 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: you were going to throw me straight under the bus. 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 4: But I'll be rest assured. As soon as we wrap 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: up this bit of compelling podcast information for one of 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: a better term, I'll be straight on that Facebook group. 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Now. 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: You know what, you don't need to and I tell 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: you why because I know you don't do social media, 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: and it's like me just tempting you with a fucking 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: beer or something. 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: We don't need that, so you stay off and. 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: We'll look out of pure respect and what not. I 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 4: would have signed up to it, never looked at it, 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: because I don't look at any social media, but I 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: would have done what I said. 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, you don't need to, but I 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: will tell you you don't need to look. I will 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 3: tell you that we get constantly good feedback about you 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: and towards you, and. 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 4: Mate, you've got a great audience. Like leadership driven fish 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: rots from the head or grows from the head, and 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: that's you, champion, and you get what you are. That's mate. 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: You're a wealth of knowledge and high integrity, all of 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: the good stuff. And that's why you've got such pedigree 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: listeners and members. There's no coincidence or fluke at all, 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: and I enjoy being a part of it whenever I 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: get around it. 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you, mate. I want to talk to 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: you today about this very broad topic and we'll just 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: go where we go. But I want to talk about 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: a couple of things, so self awareness, self regulation, self management, 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: me managing me, me, managing my mind, my body, my emotion, 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: my relationships. This is big, by the way, my career, 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: my dough my intentions, my goals. I feel like the 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: ever present challenge for humans is how do I manage me? 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: How do I get the most out of me? How 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: do I get the most out of my genetics and 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: my skill and my potential and my resources. How do 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: I optimize me? And what does that mean for me? So, 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: how do you when it comes to you managing you? 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: Because you've changed your operating system, You've changed your paradigm completely. 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: You had a red hot crack at. 89 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: The becoming a billionaire, which you got pretty close to 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: and working like a crazy person and doing all the 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: drugs and all the booze and all the craziness and 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: you've turned yourself around. What does self regulation and management 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: look like for you? 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: Now? 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: Excellent question, albeit very long. Sorry lovey, I've got the 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 4: memory of an elephant. All right, here we go. So 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: it's a great question. And as you know, because I 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: was going to jump on last week, I took last 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: week off right self management. I am a dead set, 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: open book, mate. If you'll see CTV out, what you 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: see is what you get. Like last week, I was flat. 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: I took a week off. You got it like for me? 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: It's about but it's self optimization. I don't. I will 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: never again rock up half half done. Flat, No, it 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: doesn't happen. Right, So last week, bit of a it's 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: not a bogy thing I made. I had to get 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: the ears drained, ladies and gentlemen. It turns out I 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: got narrow ear canals from surfing. That's a thing if 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: you've ever surfed a lot. But I'd put off going 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: to the doctor for a while, harps, because I moved 111 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 4: out here in the rural areas. So asie, Jeff, this 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: is a dead set, you know, for a smart blake 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: does dumb things at times, or a bit of a 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: back end, a compliment and a self there, but let's 115 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: move on. But what I did, I did a bit 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: of a diy job on unblocking the years and lo 117 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 4: and be old made it fucking worse. Don't stick cotton 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: buds in your ears. It's like this gym and it 119 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: in there. We all know it. But I thought I 120 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: was I thought I was better. I thought I could 121 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: a guy for it, and I thought I could just 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: get the angles right and hot water and this at 123 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: motherfucking board. Next minute I'm underwater and the head's about 124 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: to explode. And so I'd put off going to the 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: doctor because I'd moved. I didn't have a new die 126 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: that of bloody, I'm going to fill out the form 127 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 4: Spanish inquisition, et cetera. Are we go? Love turns out 128 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: lovely drained it boom, Happy days, rock and roll. So 129 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: that was a big part of why I was a 130 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: bit flat. And one of my dogs, Lucy bless her, 131 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: the Scottish terrier full Moon. I think she thought it 132 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: was daylight or there were lots of rabbits around that 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: she could see at night, so she thought she'd go 134 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: up to eight Fagan's Road and let them know what 135 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: was going on at midnight. And so had a bit 136 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: of all that going on to I'm having a week. 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 4: I was going to recharge. I was getting that way anyway, 138 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: and you just call it right. So me back in 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: those days of vision, pt, body trim whatever, I literally thought, 140 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: this is so it's madness. It's just madness. I thought 141 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: I could never take a week off, like you've got 142 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: to work a whole because you've got no life. I 143 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: say business as a vehicle to build your life. It's 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: not your life, but so many times it becomes your life, 145 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: and it too. You are identity theft, I call it 146 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: because it steals your identity and and but I just 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: call it. And every every single plan of mine and 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: speaking jobs that I had, I moved and whatnot. Everyone's 149 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: got massive respect legend mate, like they take lessons and 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: learnings out of that. If I'm not rocking up my best, 151 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm not rocking up. It's real fucking simple life. Well, 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: I was thinking about this this morning making a coffee. Harps. 153 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Think about your thread astare to your lovely head of 154 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: hair that you've got at nearly sixty. And I was 155 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: thinking about this as well. I was thinking that life 156 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: can be absolutely beautiful magic if we do not if 157 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: we do not break a few a few rules. If 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: you say you're going to do something, even if it's 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: in passing, you fucking do it. Doesn't have to be 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: a contract, doesn't need to be written in blood, but 161 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: you do it. You don't break some absolute rules, and 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: life gets better and better and better and better. You 163 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: never compromise your integrity. You're playing to an audience of 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: one yourself. If you say you're going to do it, 165 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: you do it. If you're not at your best, you 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: don't do it. You put your hand up and your 167 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: life gets better and better. But you start to compromise 168 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: that kind of what you said sort of but not 169 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: really or what not, life gets really hard, really fast. 170 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: And your business might still be growing, and then it 171 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: gets even harder because it's not built right. And one 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: of the keys on that for me is so the 173 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: self managing monitoring thing is all about awareness and how 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: you're tracking and where you're at and for me, what 175 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: are we in may I've been at it for a bit. 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: It's a time for a week off anyway, recharge and 177 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: now brand new, and that's great, but like you've got 178 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: to do that because you if you rock up underdone 179 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: like you're not doing anyone any favors. And I'm sort 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: of not really defined by anything. But if I was 181 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: to be defined by something, it'd be being at my best. 182 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: When I commit to doing something that's critical, right, the 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: rest takes care of itself. Like the better I am today, 184 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: the better my life tomorrow. Not the shitter today the 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: better tomorrow. It's contradiction in terms, right, So we've got 186 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: to be better where we are. It's like building a 187 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: house into a village each brick. If you do it 188 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: really well, which I assume you should or would, then 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: the wall will be good, the house will be good, 190 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: the village you'll be meant. But if you're good frustrated 191 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: that you've got to build houses to get the village done, 192 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: the old thing is going to fucking fall down on you, 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: like brick by brick, without a doubt, as silly as 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: it sounds, but we forget that in the relentless pursuit 195 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: of more destination addiction. 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do you know what I love about you? 197 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: I love a lot about you. But you know, before 198 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 3: we went live, I'm like, ah, ok, because you were 199 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: so fucking laid back. 200 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: You're so laid back, you're. 201 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: So comfortable in your own skin, and then then we 202 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: start and then it's like and now I'm here, I'm 203 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: on a podcast. It's like a switch flix and there's 204 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: nothing disingenuous. 205 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: It's all real. But it's you being what you need 206 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: to be for a half hour or so. 207 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: So that you can teach and coach and expire inspire 208 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: thousands of people. And then you finish and then you're like, 209 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: and now I'm done. You know, Like, I love the 210 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: ability that you have to manage your energy that way, 211 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: And that's. 212 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: What it is. That's what it is, Harps, You've just 213 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: nowed it. Like you know, we spoke last week, I 214 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: think it was, and you know, he said person not 215 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: persona like like if I not that I you're one 216 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: of probably the person of everyone, Like not that I 217 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: am with anyone anymore, but I'm not. I've got zero 218 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: need to be hyper motivated up for just to chat, 219 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: Like there's no need. We're just chatting about a few 220 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: bits and pieces. But when you're on a podcast and 221 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: you have a platform to invoke change in others, that's 222 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: totally different. So I can serve my energy to deliver 223 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: optimally to that platform at that time. 224 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, how much when you are you know, you've made 225 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: some big changes in your life, so have I? Like 226 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: I got to the point, which obviously wasn't a quick journey, 227 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: but over years where I went from this is what 228 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm built for, training people, creating this energy up here, 229 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: building this culture, leading this team of trainers and fitness professionals, 230 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: and building this empire too. I don't want to do 231 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: this anymore at all. I don't want to count reps. 232 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: I don't want to hand one more person of fucking 233 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: dumbbell and I'm done. 234 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm good. 235 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: It's not bad, It's just not what I want to 236 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: do right, And I've made significant changes, as have you. 237 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: For you, how much of how much of. 238 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: Deciding what you're going to do and where you're going 239 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: to go next is strategic and how much is just intuitive? 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: Is like just based on what you're feeling? 241 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: Mate? Great question, A few layers to it, ultimately, and 242 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: it's something I've been playing around with lately. And I 243 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: was chopping down a few trees the other day, not 244 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: gum trees. They're actually big weeds that grew into trees. 245 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: But Ozzie, Jeff, just beside, I'll share this story because 246 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: it's quite relevant. I took the week. 247 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: Off and the only guest we ever have that talks 248 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: about himself in the third person. 249 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: And I just want to tell you that Craig loves it. 250 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: Ah, bless Ye're the best. Thank you, Thanks Craig, You're 251 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: a champion, one of the greats. So Ozzie Jeff down 252 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: at the damn last week and Alan, who owns the 253 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 4: property with his lovely wife, he happened to say, you 254 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: were down there together the other day and he was 255 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: just showing me these massive weeds that they look like 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: a tree, but they're a weed, right an old mate 257 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: next door. Bless him. When the bloody wind blows all 258 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 4: the shitty beads or whatever they are, the pedals or 259 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: they blow into his joint, they start cropping up and 260 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 4: they're a pest. And Alan said, make no pressure. But 261 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: if you want to look, I know you love all 262 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: that stuff made. I'll get rid of them. I'm having 263 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: the week off. Boom down. I went anyway, So hi 264 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: Achriever syndrome one O one went down to cut out 265 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: three inverted commas trees, weeds whatever they are, with my 266 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: trusty axe and Lucy by my side. And next minute 267 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: of dead set cut down after Bilanglo State Forest. I've 268 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: got to send you a photo, fucker now made. It's 269 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: like high achieve syndrome one O one and on. But 270 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: here's the thing, right, Yeah it was, and I was, yeah, 271 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: oh you're a funny fuck. 272 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: Don't go on. 273 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: Because it was quite overgrowing over the back there. And 274 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: I've got the whipper snipp of their heads, trim the acts, 275 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: everything Lucy's got running around, Chase and rabbits. It's just 276 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 4: the best. But it's like the deepest I call it 277 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: a working meditation because my head is void of any 278 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: thoughts other than the project I'm immersed in. And that, 279 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: to me, is what I call purpose driven. Now. Now, 280 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: the funny thing about that, is, right, is that I'm 281 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: not a bloody tree lopper. I'm not getting paid to 282 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: do it. I'm doing you know, I enjoy that stuff. 283 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: Lucy gets to run around. It gives me a glimpse 284 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: of what life was probably like hundreds of years ago, 285 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: with your working dog by your side and bloody bliss. 286 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: It's joy, it's gratitude, it's everything. But my brain is 287 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: totally consumed in that project, in that task, and that 288 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: this is what I've come to believe right that gives 289 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: me deep meaning and purpose in my life at that moment. 290 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: And we are we've been conditioned or definitely I read 291 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: and heard and you know it's you've got to find 292 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: your overarching purpose. I call bullsh on that, because we 293 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: don't live in an overarching world. We live in now. 294 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: And what I've come to believe is that when we 295 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: learn how to find deep meaning and purpose in now 296 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: with what we're doing by way of tasks and projects, 297 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: that is the catalyst to give to build a purposeful life, 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: a purpose driven life, not seeking purpose into the future, 299 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: but finding it where you are. And it's in doing 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: those things that I get in this incredibly deep sense 301 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: of purpose and meaning in my life. And I get 302 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: goosebumps when I talk about it, which to me says 303 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: it's a profound truth. I believe that. And because you're 304 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: so in it, you're not defined by it. It's not 305 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: any nothing, no one, It just you are so consumed 306 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: in it. And then you walk and then like you 307 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: come and I'm sweating bullets or sweating coat bottles. You 308 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: go down there with like gloves on burnies, two jumpers, whatever, 309 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: twenty minutes it shirts off. I'm sweating bullets and I 310 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: come up a few hours later, I'm walking up through 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: the paddocks and one of my horses he tripped over 312 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: a heel. I'm laughing at him, like fuck' good on 313 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: you for I'm like just laughing looking he didn't fall over, 314 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: but he just tripped and just was funny. And then 315 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: I look over and there's Lucy full throttle, little Scottish 316 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: terrier coming up because she I've been down there for 317 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: three hours. She realized I left. She She's coming up 318 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: full speed. She's low wheel based, the Scottish terrier full 319 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: and she went to go under the bottom railing of 320 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: the fence and clipped the head and it was like 321 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: she was fine, but it was like in rugby league 322 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: it's the HIA, the head injury assessment, so on there 323 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: like Lucy's off to the HIA. I'm just laughing at 324 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: my own jokes. It's probably why I'm a recluse, keep 325 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: myself amused and over in a chuckle. And the horse 326 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: tripped over and she hit her head and it's just there. 327 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: Good's there. And I've been chopping down trees at most 328 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: people go, oh fuck that No one's paying me spot 329 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: the irony, folks, right, that's where the juice and the 330 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: magic is. And something that I really short change myself 331 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: when in my twenties and thirties because I was told 332 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: to outsource all the low in the low dollar producing work. Sure, 333 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 4: when you're scaling a business and you're the CEO, you're 334 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: not planning the dunnies five times a day. Obviously captainN omnious, 335 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: but to a point not your fault. If you outsource 336 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: all of the manual tasks, you short change yourself on 337 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: life and joy and purpose in the now because I 338 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 4: because I get burnt out like I did the week before, laugh, 339 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: when I'm doing too much thinking from across fifty businesses 340 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: a week which I am strategically, like, my brain just breaks, 341 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 4: it breaks. I couldn't turn off my head by the 342 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: end of that week, Like I just need, like I 343 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: need a week off throwing the blocked ears and whatnot. 344 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: And it was tying of arrest. But like the thing is, 345 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 4: you've got to do this stuff, and then you optimize 346 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: yourself to be more effective in the high dollar producing work, 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: but just all high dollar producing use of your time. 348 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: In my humble opinion, is not what optimizes you. So 349 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: I do a few bit now. If I was chopping 350 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: down trees every day, it'll be horrible, But once every 351 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: few months it's very, very rewarding. 352 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like when I first met you, when 353 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: you were running a mark with business and life and people, 354 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: and you were very your life was, among other things, 355 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: very social, very very intertwined with a lot of other 356 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: human beings, a lot of relationships, a lot of friendships, 357 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: a lot of socializing, lot of dinners, a lot of lunches, 358 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: a lot of partying, a lot of humans around you. 359 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: And now your life is the opposite of that. Tell 360 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: us a little bit about you that you now like 361 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: because I mean and one of the other. Here's my 362 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: next long winded question. Like we talk so much in 363 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: mental health now about the importance of connection and the 364 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: importance of having other people around us and feeling loved 365 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: and valued and belonging. It almost seems like that doesn't 366 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: apply to you. 367 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 4: We might remember many, many a few years ago now, 368 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: when I was at rock bottom and just rolling around 369 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 4: in the mud working out what to do, putting out 370 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: the chairs aa n A and roll call and open 371 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: the bus that hit me on the way down. You 372 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: said make it into a holding pattern, and you said 373 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: when you walk through the spiritual door, there's no walk 374 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: it turning back. And I don't like that works. It's 375 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: such a bloody badge and I don't even use it 376 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: other than for the sake of this sort of thing. 377 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: It's a really interesting one because whatever you know, that 378 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: word or anything of that ilk right, it changes everything 379 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: because you know, there's nothing more lonely than being around 380 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: people that you don't gel, that you're not aligned with. 381 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: That's where your loneliness is. If you're not aligned, you 382 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: got to be an alignment. The majority of people are 383 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: in ahead thinking about yesterday and tomorrow and problems and 384 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: what if scenario is right, there's no connection there anyway. 385 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: So for me, you've got For me, it's got to 386 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 4: be people who are aligned and are comfortable in themselves 387 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: and that they're not like paralyzed by head noise and whatnot. 388 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: And then that's great. But for me, I don't feel 389 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: lonely because it's it's hard to talk about because it's 390 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 4: it just gets there's so much bullshit in that sort 391 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: of energy frequency spiritual world. Like I never really go 392 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: into it because I just call bullshit on a lot 393 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: of you know, people's behaviors that wax lyrical about it. 394 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: But like you, I look at the animals. I just 395 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: look at there's a lot. There's a life force and 396 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 4: energy to life, and you're connected to that. Now, part 397 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 4: of that are humans and human experiences, but that's part 398 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: of it, it's not all of it. It's not all 399 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: of it. And you know there's such there's an energy 400 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 4: to this life human experience, and the more conscious I 401 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: believe you become, you feel that you're a part of that, 402 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: and there's a oneness to it that I don't. Yeah, 403 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: it's different. I don't like social interactions, parties and all 404 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: that and everyone. That would drain the fuck out of me. 405 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: I'd need to sleep for a week now. Like it's 406 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: just different. It's like I can't it's fully understand it 407 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: or explain it. But I like talking to people like 408 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: yourself and known for a long time and that nothing 409 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 4: approved and we have a chatting But I don't have 410 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: a craving or a whole like avoid in my life 411 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: for shitloads of people, if that makes any sense at all. 412 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 4: What I do know about animals right is that I 413 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: just love the beauty and the magic of life without 414 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: humans over with, you know, fucking it up and over 415 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 4: complicating it. So animals are always present and grateful, you know, 416 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: and you get what you're in your environment, So I 417 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: stack the deck. They're always present, they're always grateful, and 418 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: you know a lot of humans are generally not present 419 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: and not grateful, right, So I'm not shiit Kenny humans 420 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: being one of them. But you know, we're defective products. 421 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 4: If we were to corollas, we wouldn't have come off 422 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: the production line me as well, all of us, right 423 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: we are, We've got these I believe the human condition 424 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: at this point in our evolution, like it's like we've 425 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: got this big brain, this f one engine, we haven't 426 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: learned how to drive it properly. That's what I believe me. 427 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: You're doing the PhD, so you know a lot more 428 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: about it than I would. But I believe our brains 429 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: are like we've got to learn how to turn them 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: on and off. And people haven't been taught. And I 431 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: had to teach myself. Right, like you said, at the start, 432 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: I was float as attacked thought, but this boat's depresses 433 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: is going to be shit? Should we rain check? Next minute? 434 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: We're on right. So that's you've got to learn how 435 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 4: to turn it on, turn it off, up, down, Hi, 436 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: go up and down the gears as needed, on demand. 437 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: It's a discipline in your mind, not being a slave 438 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: to your mind. Right, the mind or the monkey brain. 439 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: It's going to do all sorts of stuff if you 440 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 4: let it, if you don't know how to reset it. 441 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: And like some of that stuff, chopping down trees, time 442 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 4: with the animals and whatnot. That's my medicine, that's my drug. 443 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 4: Like the other night I was I ride horses at 444 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: night now in the arena and there's no one there. 445 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 4: It's heaven. There's two little birds that sleep in one 446 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: of the grooming bays, right up on a ledge and 447 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: the mate. It melts my heart. These animals, the magic, 448 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: the beauty and the peace of life when it's silent 449 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: and you're just a part of it and they're comfortable 450 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 4: with you around. The little birds don't even leave when 451 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: I'm right near him. Now it's great. And one of 452 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: the horses I was putting back in the stable and 453 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: she dropped a carrot on the ground. It was pitched 454 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: black in this table and I am there like her 455 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: head's down at my hip and we're both sort of 456 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: on the ground almost looking for this carrot in the dark. 457 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: It was just beautiful and this horse is massive. But 458 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: there's such a connection bond love that there's you just 459 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: this trust bond that you build with the animals over 460 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 4: to that you've got to earn. You can't buy, you 461 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 4: can't fake, you can't fast track, you can't intellectualize the 462 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: trust the consistent. I love that, and I love that 463 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 4: in people as well, of course. But in getting back 464 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: to your question, apologies for the long winded synopsis, but 465 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: it's sort of I was. I'd hang out with anyone 466 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: back in the day, probably part of it, so I 467 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: would have a drink too, right, And it was kind 468 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: I was probably had a relationship with alcohols as much 469 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: as I did with all the people around me at 470 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: that point in time. And when you stop drinking, well, 471 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: it's quite a confronting thing because you don't have a 472 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: lot in common with a lot of your old piss 473 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 4: had mates too, So a lot of the socializing that's 474 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: done is when we're inebriated, and when you're not drink, 475 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: when you don't drink, well, you don't really just want 476 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: to sit around and talk shit. You want to live. 477 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: You want to live, you want to feel, you want 478 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: to experience, you want to be. You just don't want 479 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: to sit around and talk shit full of piss because 480 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: you're sober. 481 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think the other thing about animals too, 482 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: is that they're never not authentic, Like you never have 483 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: to figure out whether or not they're full of shit. 484 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: That's right. 485 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: You don't have to read between the lines. You don't 486 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: have to go is this the person or the persona? 487 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: Is this fucking Is there an agenda? 488 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: Like? 489 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: If there is an agenda, you know it because they're 490 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: trying to get food out of your hand. 491 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: Right. There's no you know, no bullshit. 492 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: There's no Machiavelian politics, there's no agendas, there's none of 493 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: that stuff. There's an honesty in it. There's an integrity 494 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: there and you learn. So I learned so much, you know, 495 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: with all just observing and being around the animals. I 496 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 4: got one hundred cockatoos that eat in the backyard every day, 497 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: and now it's the best. I just dump twenty kilos 498 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: of wild bird seed on the grass. Mate. It's an 499 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 4: absolute free for all, and it's just the best. It's 500 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: a sea of white and you know, all these different things. 501 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: But I think also for twenty years I was going 502 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: to the opening of an envelope and like a butterfly 503 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: dot com and all of what you said, right, So 504 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: I've probably I've probably done ten lifetimes of it as well, 505 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: so eating out of the China doll and otto every 506 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: night like it was bloody cheap takeaway. I've just done 507 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: it to death. I'm not shit canning it. I just 508 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: did so much of it for so bloody long. But 509 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: life to me is about experiences, new experiences. I want 510 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: to turn the page. I want to experience more, right. 511 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: I love going out, getting collecting kindling, starting a fire, 512 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: splitting a log, sitting here it's on now, the fire 513 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: that Lucy's asleep behind me, the other dog somewhere. Like 514 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: new experiences. I don't just want to keep reading the 515 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: same fucking chapter that was the shit out of me. 516 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: And with the business stuff as well, like entrepreneurs listening 517 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: people in business. For me, I find like about a 518 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: five years of you know, you're super fied up about it, 519 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: then you're start to get a bit bored. Now it 520 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: might be longer. And if you've got a hobby and 521 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: a life you know alongside it, which I never did. 522 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: But it don't sort of beat yourself up that you 523 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: want to do something new if you're strategic about how 524 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: you engineer that. We're here to experience life. We're not 525 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: here to be a slaver or a prisoner to one 526 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: chapter of it. And when you're not defined by your 527 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: balance sheet and your car and all that, it opens 528 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: you up to so many possibilities. And I believe you 529 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: have more financial commercial success in the long term if 530 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: you stay the course on that path. 531 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: You know we'll wind up. But I just want, I 532 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: want you to speak to this a little bit, just because. 533 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I want your insight around there. 534 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: So everything you're saying, I think makes sense to everyone, 535 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: and I don't think anyone's sitting at home going that's bullshit. 536 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: I agree. 537 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: But we also and you spoke earlier about chest beating, 538 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: but we also live in a culture and a climate 539 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: and a time where chest beating is fucking everywhere on Instagram, 540 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: you know, on Facebook, everything's about look at me, look 541 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: at what I've done, look at my breakfast, look at 542 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: my body, look at my face, look at my fucking achievements. 543 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: How do we reconcile that or how do we and 544 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: without I understand that too, because I did a fair 545 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: bit of that myself, right. There was a lot of 546 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: ego and bullshit and insecurity and self doubt and love me, 547 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: like me, want me to prove of me. There's fair 548 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: bit of that gone on on my journey, by the 549 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: way as well. How do we turn that down? And 550 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: how do we like that's? That's almost an addiction in itself. 551 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts around that. 552 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: Great question? All I can say to people from the 553 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: hand on heart, I went down that road on steroids, right, 554 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: and there's nothing at the end of it good. It 555 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 4: just you just need more and more and more external validation, 556 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: chasing external needing external validation to feel successful. It's a 557 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: bottomless pit. It's the greatest trap. So the hard thing is, 558 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: of course, until you've done it and realize that it's 559 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: very hard not to do it right because everyone's doing it. 560 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: We live in a world where you know, social media 561 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: is prolific and technology is great, but you want to 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: use technology, not be used by it. And one of 563 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: the real solutions to this as well is limiting your 564 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 4: data windows and exposure so that you've actually got some 565 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: time just heaven forbid, sitting in front of the fire 566 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: or something, not just scrolling social media and just binging 567 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: more data, comparing and what not. By default on social media, 568 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: it's impossible not to compare when you're scrolling through social 569 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: media all the time. So limiting data or having data 570 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: windows of exposure and being vigilant with that, disciplining yourself 571 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 4: so that you've got time to be where you are, 572 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: not in your head or on a screen, that's key. 573 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: And the reality is again like if you haven't felt 574 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: what's at the end of that road, it's hard to 575 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: just trust what I'm saying. It's maybe it's impossible, I 576 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: don't know, but there's just nothing. There's no joy at 577 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: the end of that. There's disease of more. It's like 578 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: a drug addict needing more drugs to get the same hit. 579 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: You just need more money, more this, more that, more 580 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: cars to get the same hit. I tried, but so 581 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: breaking free from that is you know, it's probably why 582 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: I am quite reclusive these days, because it's it's sad. 583 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: It's sad. I just know there's no joy and love 584 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: and connection and depth to that road and really finding 585 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: yourself on that road. I was so lost for so long. 586 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know where to start. That's why I need 587 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: to get hammered so hard. That have the reset, and 588 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: I'm grateful for that. But like if you can break 589 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: if a person can break free from that, then the 590 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: potential is limitless because you avoid all the traps moving forward, 591 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: all the trappings of success, because you know where you're 592 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: going and who you are. 593 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's almost like we're trying to 594 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: fill some internal void with some external thing. 595 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: You know. 596 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 3: It's like what's got what's really lacking is it's more 597 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: an internal it's emotional, it's spiritual, it's psychological, it's something. 598 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: But what's not missing is more fans. What's not missing 599 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: is a bigger Telly. What's not missing is more dough 600 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: or more pats on the back. 601 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So well you're amazing. 602 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: Just going one last thing just with what I was, 603 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: just exactly what you said there, Like when you learn 604 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: to do this and you limit some data and you 605 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: get some time, like me, I was chopping down the trees. 606 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: Whatever the idea is. The brilliant ideas that come to me, 607 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: they come doing that. That's an important point. So I 608 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: know strategically when I do that, Because I'm not saying 609 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: that I won't do other businesses. I may well, but 610 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: they won't be like they used to be, and they 611 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: won't be done for those reasons at all. But the 612 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: point is is that the goal, the absolute gold, as 613 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: you've said before, threw me, not from me. It just 614 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: hits the back of my head. When I'm an hour 615 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 4: into doing those tasks, it's like I'm in this deep 616 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: state of being and things are just obvious. Everything gets 617 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: really obvious because there's no head noise, and I know 618 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: what to do next. 619 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, mate, we'll wind it up. We appreciate 620 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: you again, Thank you for your time. Enjoy the ducks, 621 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: Enjoy the cockies, Enjoy the dogs, enjoy the horses. Enjoy 622 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: the solitude. TIF do you want to go and stay 623 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 3: with you wouldn't have you because he doesn't want visitors. 624 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: But wouldn't you love to stay for a weekend. As 625 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: soon as he said horses, I was almost in the 626 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: car already. 627 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Less. 628 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: We'll have to get you up in your tiff. 629 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: Yes, please go. 630 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: And stay a weekend with Jeff. You might you might 631 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: come back changed. 632 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: Me and Luna will come up. 633 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Lucy just there. She loves It's all. 634 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: As soon as you said, Luna, Lucy barked, there you go. 635 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: It all right mate, stay there. 636 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: We'll say goodbye Fair but for the minute. Thanks champ 637 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: see ya, see yup.