WEBVTT - Athletes Authority Ep. 179 - Aaron Sculli - iPerform Lab & Athletic Development Coach Newcastle Knights | Creating A Business On Performance Profiling & The Shift Of Professional Athletes NRL

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Athletes Authority on air, where we interview guests

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<v Speaker 1>who have made a meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>Contribution to the sporting industry.

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<v Speaker 3>In each episode, we unpack their stories, systems and strategies

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<v Speaker 1>Before we jump into today's episode, would love to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know about our upcoming Coach immersion that this basically

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<v Speaker 1>is open for anyone really in the health and wellness space,

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<v Speaker 1>from personal trainer through to strengthniting coach, in private, pro

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<v Speaker 1>semi pro, any environment, physiotherapists, Allied Health. We've had pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much anybody in everyone come and attend this course from

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and also lucky enough to have a fair few

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<v Speaker 1>people from around the world coming at ten which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>From there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a three day immersive experience with the team

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<v Speaker 1>here at AA in Melbourne. We're looking at the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six to twenty eighth of June. So if this is

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<v Speaker 1>something you've ever thought about doing, please feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to either the AA Instagram or myself personally

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be able to point you in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump on the phone and have a chat to see

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<v Speaker 1>where it actually is something that would benefit you. And

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<v Speaker 1>now into today's episode, Welcome back to Athletes to Thorty

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<v Speaker 1>on Air, episode one hundred and seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined today by Aaron Scully.

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<v Speaker 1>He's currently the athletic performance coach at Newcastle Knights. A

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a story there to tell you in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute podcast listeners will be over that. Bud now

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<v Speaker 1>and owner of I Perform and I Perform the Labs. Mate,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for jumping on.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks mate, thanks for having me part.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably coincides really good with you actually, mate, about

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. I was a Newcastle fan for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two years and about two years ago I gave up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm chokies now.

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<v Speaker 1>But probably coincide when you join them, wasn't it about

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Mate, Yeah, it was a roundabout that time actually yeah

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<v Speaker 3>two Yeah, twenty twenty three was my first year, so

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<v Speaker 3>I was at the Tigers before that, which great club.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah that was that was that And yeah, join

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<v Speaker 3>your cast from the Lights twenty twenty three and had

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<v Speaker 3>a great season and there here we go again.

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<v Speaker 2>Made it hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie it hurt because there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of newie in me. It hurt last year because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys obviously did so well, which has not been

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<v Speaker 1>the norm for the previous at least ten years anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So congrats to you for doing a great job there

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<v Speaker 1>mate with the boys, and we'll jump into that in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but mate, you're getting some good press.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Forbes magazine in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday into your facility and you recently just opened up

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<v Speaker 1>it's called I Performed Lab. We had a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a chat off air beforehand, which was obviously great, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to give the listen a little bit insight made

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<v Speaker 1>into what the vision was behind opening up this space,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's pretty unique and really just niching down on

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<v Speaker 1>one aspect of athlete devent which will athlete developent or

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<v Speaker 1>performance or longevity as you called it before, being the

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<v Speaker 1>testing side of things, mate, So we'd love to get

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<v Speaker 1>some of your thoughts and ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Yeah, it is obviously an exciting, the daunting chapter

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<v Speaker 3>for my wife and I going out and becoming entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 3>Opening our facility. I guess the vision was for me,

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<v Speaker 3>so I thought someone was actually walking in there, even

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<v Speaker 3>though even though the doors what good problem?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you that busy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>People busting the door.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I guess the vision was around you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>working in professional sport, you get access to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of cool toys, you know, like your

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<v Speaker 3>all your sports sign stuff, the stuff we used for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tell people through the rehab process, but also

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<v Speaker 3>screen for performance limitters and you know, areas that might

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<v Speaker 3>be an increased risk of injury. And I've thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>why isn't this available to everybody, and and why isn't

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<v Speaker 3>it more accessible to everybody. It's make their life better

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<v Speaker 3>and to help them enjoy their weekend sport, or recover

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<v Speaker 3>from their injuries, or even just to get some insight

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<v Speaker 3>into what they do to see if they can do

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<v Speaker 3>it better. So you know, everyone's wearing the woop watchers,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know people are measuring their blood glucose and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting their their dexter scans and all that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. And I thought, well, this is just another,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, another piece of that puzzle. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was funny, Like I kind of use an art book.

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<v Speaker 3>I use a black canvas when I'm thinking or when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a bit of a brain dump or coming

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<v Speaker 3>up with the ideas and I just was sitting up

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<v Speaker 3>till I would have been close to midnight one night, listening.

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<v Speaker 4>To I don't know what I'm doing through but.

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<v Speaker 3>With my lead pencil and I was just drawing little

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<v Speaker 3>shramatics and I kind of come up with this concept

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<v Speaker 3>and it just becomes so clear. And for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a perfectionist, it's taken me a long time the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of pull this trigger on something, but this is so clear,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we found a facility and we just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of went for it and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Here it is. I performed lab and it's it's really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's starting to get a lot of the tension, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty cool to bring something unique not only to

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<v Speaker 3>the central coast one from, but you know, to the

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<v Speaker 3>health and wellness industry itself.

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<v Speaker 1>The vision that you mentioned there before, Like we've taken

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<v Speaker 1>the concepts that you know a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>are involved with the coaches or in the rehab space

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar with, but you've distilled it down probably across

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<v Speaker 1>two sort of verticals with the you know, the general

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<v Speaker 1>punter or the average weekend warrior and then some of

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<v Speaker 1>the semi elite that are trying to crack it into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the more elite or spaces. What's been the

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<v Speaker 1>reception so far. What sort of feedback you've gotten from

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<v Speaker 1>the community since you've been open.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been it's been really good. So yeah, you're right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>generally that's probably our Zach market.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's the aspiring athletes, the people that are on

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<v Speaker 3>the fringes, individual athletes as well. Yeah, definitely your weekend Warrior,

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<v Speaker 3>but then more importantly people that are coming back from

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<v Speaker 3>injuries so leaking up with a lot of physiasm and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 4>The reception has been really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It's initially it was people walking past or reaching out

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<v Speaker 3>to me on socials kind of asking me a few

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<v Speaker 3>more questions like what is this? Like am I getting

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<v Speaker 3>there to Matt's tested, or like what's But then as

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<v Speaker 3>people started kind of pulling the trigger and rolling in,

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<v Speaker 3>they've kind of spoken to other people and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just I guess snowboard a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the main reception or that the main feedback

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting is wow, like people coming in getting answers

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<v Speaker 3>to questions they didn't know that they had in and

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<v Speaker 3>around their body, but also seeing some of the cool

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that people like you or me take for granted

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<v Speaker 3>because we get to use it every day. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people are jumping on a fourth frame or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>doing a myth Stide pool or you know, jumping on

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<v Speaker 3>a nordboard doing a ISO thirty or something, just going

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<v Speaker 3>like what is this? And I've got the big screens

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<v Speaker 3>and they can see all their their stuff kind of

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<v Speaker 3>or their scores and that kind of pop up and

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<v Speaker 3>the force trays and it's just like wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess it would be like us before we knew what

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<v Speaker 3>it was, seeing it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's what is kind of happening for everyone else, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. And for you as as you said you're

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<v Speaker 2>aspiring entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know, that's probably really good positive reinforcement around

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<v Speaker 1>the decision. The old lead pencil and book probably came

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<v Speaker 1>to fruition, which is obviously what you want to have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You've created a pretty cool space as well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>like that's probably an aspect that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>over look. You know, you don't look like a physioclinic,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really look like a gym. You've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>found like that perfect middle ground you mentioned, got the

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<v Speaker 1>TV there with the force trace, so it becomes quite interactive.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything unique that you think that you did

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<v Speaker 1>in that setup to maximize the engagement for the people

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<v Speaker 1>coming through. Maybe a little tip for someone that's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of setting up maybe they in a facility they

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<v Speaker 1>have a little testing corner, or they're thinking of having

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<v Speaker 1>a dedicated room or something like that. Anything that you've

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<v Speaker 1>sort of learned over you know, I know it's been

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<v Speaker 1>only limited time so far, but you've obviously learned so

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<v Speaker 1>much already.

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<v Speaker 3>I look, you know, I'll front load this answer with

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that I am by no means an expert

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<v Speaker 3>in business.

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<v Speaker 4>Or this area.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so new to this and I'm learning every single day.

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<v Speaker 3>To answer your question, find a really good, creative, intelligent

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<v Speaker 3>missus because she has literally designed everything from the floor

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<v Speaker 3>to the ceiling here, like the branding, thisesthetics, like the

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<v Speaker 3>the layout of everything, like the colors where things go,

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<v Speaker 3>like she was the boss. And then I guess to

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<v Speaker 3>answer your question, you know, more directly, I think just having.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got to think.

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<v Speaker 3>Iron age and an outpotit there, like they've they've got

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<v Speaker 3>some great stuff. Well, those iron as Matt's are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>second or none, They're outstanding. You know, we've got really

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<v Speaker 3>good colors there. We've got a nice track from them.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's done a great job with the squat rats and

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff that I think just keeping

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<v Speaker 3>it simple. We kind of when I drew this plan

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<v Speaker 3>and literally when I drew it on the canvas and

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<v Speaker 3>looks like exactly the way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of la It's really cool to see a

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<v Speaker 4>vision come of life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I kind of looked at it when I drew

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<v Speaker 3>it and I was like, oh, it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 3>there's much there, Like, it looks a bit bad. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes there's you know, beauty in things that

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<v Speaker 3>are simple, like and clean and it's not flooded. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's people come in here and they say this,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks so big in here, like it looks really cool,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the small space. It's about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty square meters

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<v Speaker 3>and within that there's like two three x three meter rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>So it probably looks spacious because of the simple design

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<v Speaker 3>of it and you know, not trying to fill every space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that good minimalistic feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, which is probably the only part of my

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<v Speaker 3>life that has that.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough. Fair enough, yeah, no, fair enough, great point, Lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a missus it is like yours, by the

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<v Speaker 1>sounds of it, that can sort of sort all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out, because I think we're a couple of battler's

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<v Speaker 1>over here, but well made.

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<v Speaker 3>If you I'll just stop you on that f you

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<v Speaker 3>are putting this podcast up tonight, We're both going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Hans will really nice spin up. Gave you this is

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<v Speaker 4>a good plan, I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So, And like like you said there before, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of facilities you know now in the private space,

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<v Speaker 1>physio clinics, you know, pro clubs like you've been involved

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<v Speaker 1>in and are involved in, you know, they have testing

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of the club or the membership or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that sort of may be there. Now you've done

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<v Speaker 1>it in both you've got your own setup. You've also

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<v Speaker 1>done it obviously in those other environments.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the big mistakes are that people make, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that be in regards to the way the testing conducted,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the information is delivered to the athlete, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is there anything else you can sort of

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<v Speaker 1>think about that sort of might be you know, a key,

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<v Speaker 1>key problem that you've sort of popped up along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think there's a couple of parts of

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<v Speaker 3>that question. I think I don't think anyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone necessarily that I've kind of I've seen or worked with,

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily does anything wrong. I think just with all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that we have access to now, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot of things, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I guess for me, you know, I'll go

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<v Speaker 4>back to.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit of a I think it's Bruce Lee or

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<v Speaker 3>Hole or someone that said this, but you know, practice

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<v Speaker 3>one thing and do that one thing really really well.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, that was the the profiling, and just

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<v Speaker 3>instead of trying to do you know, I thought about

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<v Speaker 3>doing the whole gym and the profiling and having a

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<v Speaker 3>physio and doing all that, but I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it really simple and just to just focus on

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<v Speaker 3>doing that one thing, that profiling, and get the answers

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<v Speaker 3>to those questions not just around injury, bit about performance

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<v Speaker 3>and keeping performance at the at the top end of

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<v Speaker 3>that's a performance first, how can I improve how can

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<v Speaker 3>I find some some things that can help you through

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<v Speaker 3>that and then secondaries about how can I then mitigate

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<v Speaker 3>help the athletes or you know, person to mitigate injury

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<v Speaker 3>risk also, and I guess that was that was kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of what I wanted to do really really well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the third part to that question in and

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<v Speaker 3>around what some people could do wrong when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot speak to everybody, but the questions that I

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<v Speaker 3>get here is in and around the data. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>about it's about changing the the instead of using let

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<v Speaker 3>me see, instead of using eccentric rate of force of

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<v Speaker 3>development in the counter movement jump over body relative et centric,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of using that, I just call it breaking or

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<v Speaker 3>find your brakes, you know, and and and and linking

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<v Speaker 3>it to to their everyday life or what they do

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<v Speaker 3>and how that can help them you know, walk down

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<v Speaker 3>stairs or to to stop suddenly or to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>things like that, because it's about interpretation, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>a big part of this model is about interpretation and

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<v Speaker 3>making sure that the report was interpretable and that they

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<v Speaker 3>could read that and interpret it as somebody that knows

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely nothing about the industry.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was probably, yeah, a really big, really big

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<v Speaker 4>thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have I answered your question, Yeah, No, definitely, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with you. I think now with everyone having

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to have access this and ione a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people having access this sort of stuff, we

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<v Speaker 1>can often speak a different language exactly what you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying there, and it becomes just it just goes over

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<v Speaker 1>people's heads. So part one is exactly what you said

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<v Speaker 1>there is the ability to relate that back to the

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<v Speaker 1>athlete or the individual and to their specific context, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no point in talking to a goal for about

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<v Speaker 1>Raby League. They might get it from a practical standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>from watching it on TV or something. They don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand, they don't feel it, they don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>experience what you're talking about. So the relatability to their context.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two exactly what you said there around when

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking that home from a prescription standpoint or breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down the data. Can they do that as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have any idea, you know, there's nothing worse

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<v Speaker 1>And when you go to the doctor and you get

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<v Speaker 1>a script or something and you're trying to read it and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got no no fucking idea what they're saying, what

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<v Speaker 1>they mean. So having that easily applicable that you can

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<v Speaker 1>then make changes off the back of that, so I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that there's they're the key things now because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has access to it. Now, it's going to become who

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<v Speaker 1>are the people the best at communicating the results and

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<v Speaker 1>then the follow up process off the back of that

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<v Speaker 1>will really succeed in that that sort of space.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my two cents anyway, Yeah, mate.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's money we'll spare mate. Yeah no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely mate, I definitely agree. And for me too, like

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm trying to I'm trying there's no real price

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<v Speaker 3>points here, you know, Like we spoke about it offline

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<v Speaker 3>around when you said what kind of what kind of prices.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I have?

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard because nobody has just a modern day lap

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<v Speaker 3>that's you know that it's just profile people. So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to make it as affordable as possible. But

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<v Speaker 3>that also means that when I send somebody a report,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be answering you know, five or

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<v Speaker 3>ten Instagram messages per person.

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<v Speaker 4>About their report.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to be able to read it and go, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I know exactly what I'm saying. And that wasn't the

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<v Speaker 3>case in the first corner three or four weeks. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've got that to a point now where I'm seconding

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<v Speaker 3>with people and they go, yep, it's clear as money,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's for me. That's great feedback because I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>to tradees, I'm talking at you know, sixty plus, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>men and women that are just wanting to stay active.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking to some young athletes parents.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that they can all interpret and understand

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying to them so far, it's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also I think that obviously comes from experience, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to understand and answering ten questions off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of every individual. If you do in five a week

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<v Speaker 1>either right, which isn't many, that's fifty questions, like, it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes unsustainable and then you start to you start to

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<v Speaker 1>be just treading water and not moving forward. So being

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<v Speaker 1>out identified by anyone listening that sort of has a

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<v Speaker 1>similar experience or they notice, hang on a second, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of follow up questions. Take note of that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can really make some changes and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you've fred up all this time to do

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<v Speaker 1>what you actually said.

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<v Speaker 3>I doing now the best I've seen, I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like my one of my mentors I coming through

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<v Speaker 3>as an SMC is Indrew Gray. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever heard of Inrew Gray. Certainly someone yeah, myself

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<v Speaker 3>and my boss Maddy j you know, we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>come up under he is. The guy's got four brains,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's one of the smartest humans.

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<v Speaker 4>I have ever met.

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<v Speaker 3>But the way he can simplify, simplify things, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a sentence or.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, just to you know, bring some.

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<v Speaker 3>Context to it for an athlete or you know, myself,

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<v Speaker 3>staff or whatever, or to talk to when he's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about something, just such an important skill.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's probably the best I've seen at it. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's something I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Always I guess now you and thought that is really

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<v Speaker 3>really important. I'm definitely don't have four brains, but being

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<v Speaker 3>able to you know, be an interpreted essentially and explain,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a different language and interpret that different language

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<v Speaker 3>to somebody's sort of making made sense, so that he's

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<v Speaker 3>super powerful, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think absolutely absolutely. You mentioned profiling a few times there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Again offline, we're sort of chatting around some

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<v Speaker 1>of those profiles that you're doing. Maybe you want to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into a little bit around some of the key

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<v Speaker 1>ones that you've been doing so far, what you're looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>what some of the key tests are, and maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key trends you've found as well at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess one of the one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>the most popular one we're doing at the moment is.

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<v Speaker 4>A and I guess you know, I'll start with it

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<v Speaker 4>is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole purpose behind all this and behind the name and

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<v Speaker 3>everything is and this is what I just anching myself

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<v Speaker 3>off is the fact that I just want people to

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<v Speaker 3>be the best I can be. I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>help people perform with their best. So that's that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where this kind of comes from. But yeah, there's your question.

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<v Speaker 3>A sport ready profile, that's basically that's that's basically for

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend warrior, for the active person. You know, like

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<v Speaker 3>think of it being somebody you know, twenty five to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty that's just gets after in the gym, gets after

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<v Speaker 3>on the weekend, maybe players os tags first, whatever, that's

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<v Speaker 3>for them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just for them that you know, it's a profile.

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<v Speaker 3>Then to give them an idea of where they're fitting

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of you know, their imbalancers or their hip strength, care, strength,

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<v Speaker 3>hamstring strength, power, mobility, all that kind of stuff, strength, power, mobility,

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff so that they can keep

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<v Speaker 3>doing what they're doing and enjoying it. The reason I

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<v Speaker 3>created that particular profile was a really good friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>His wife plays okay, super active feeling runs every day,

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<v Speaker 3>go down and play tabor, play off. You goes husbands

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<v Speaker 3>with the kids. Three kids go out in kings and

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<v Speaker 3>handshry pretty bad. She couldn't serve, she couldn't run, she

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't pick up of kids, play the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought to myself, why don't I.

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<v Speaker 3>Create something that can essentially be, yeah, a little tool

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<v Speaker 3>before they go out and they do these things, so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can get an idea of if they do

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<v Speaker 3>have any I'm not going I say risks is like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not prettics injuries, but if they do have any

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<v Speaker 3>strength of businesses that could therefore lead to something that's

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<v Speaker 3>got that occurrence. So I did just bought ready profile them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of broken up into four main parts. So

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<v Speaker 3>you've got your your flexibility, mobility assessment, You've got some

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<v Speaker 3>power assessments, you've got some strength, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of resilience tests as well. It takes about

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<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes. An example might be, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>video at the start, We'll do like a a needle war,

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<v Speaker 3>real simple, We'll do a overhead squad and we'll do

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<v Speaker 3>a thoracic rotation and I'll just video that and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>score that subjectively. But it also gives me a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of an idea of like watching them having an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've already seen that if they've got you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if they've got limited ankle range. You can see how

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<v Speaker 3>they're moving through a squat pattern. I can see if

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<v Speaker 3>they're limited through a thoracic rotation. So I can already

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<v Speaker 3>kind of deal with a bit of a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a picture in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>And sorry to cut you off that, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>your experience as a coach of all these years coming

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<v Speaker 1>into play, right, Like you're using that as as a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already going to predict what's going to happen before

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen a little bit. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that coach's eye in full effect that people often undervalue

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<v Speaker 1>in some of those scenarios like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's funny to say that because I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of using a I wasn't going to use in

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<v Speaker 3>human trap. It was really good programs from Valot, but

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to rely on my own experience there. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess this is where the AI or not AI, but

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<v Speaker 3>where the technology can sometimes uh you know, take away

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes things to automated, right, So I wanted to kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Visually see that my own feedback on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, So then from there we'll go into a

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<v Speaker 3>power you know a bit of a bit of some

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<v Speaker 3>power tests to see them day, depending who they are,

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<v Speaker 3>what they kind a lot to do. They might do

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<v Speaker 3>a drop hop off a twenty cent meter box just

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<v Speaker 3>looking at their rs I off each leg, their symmetries,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll do a what else we do we do

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<v Speaker 3>it or we'll do a tend followed. So then that

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<v Speaker 3>way I'm kind of building a picture already of their

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<v Speaker 3>their kind of you know, I can look at their

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<v Speaker 3>break and I can look.

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<v Speaker 4>At their relative power. I can look at how they're

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<v Speaker 4>moving in the jump.

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<v Speaker 3>I can look at their r you know, the RSI

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<v Speaker 3>left and right, you know, if they're kind of efficient

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<v Speaker 3>or efficient. Then we'll go on some strength stuff. You

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<v Speaker 3>just jump in mate, because I can talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff with that great and you love it. Then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go into some strength stuff. So with this particular profile,

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<v Speaker 3>the sport Ready protofile, we'll only do a midside pool.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll do a grip test. From there we finish off.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost like a session like we do your mobility,

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<v Speaker 3>do your power, do your strength, and then we'll finish

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<v Speaker 3>off with like a nord board or some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>handstringing test, might be an ISO thirty Tom playing around

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<v Speaker 3>with at the moment, or.

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<v Speaker 4>A or a Nordic.

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<v Speaker 3>We will do a some fourth frame test, so your

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<v Speaker 3>abduction aduction at forty five degrees, and then if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not happy with that, I'll also do a straight leg

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and then we'll will finish off with a

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing the betany.

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<v Speaker 4>Calf into the or into into the into the force plates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>in the into the fourth decks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you asked me early a question about

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<v Speaker 3>what's the most common thing I'm seeing that there. That's

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<v Speaker 3>probably the most common thing I'm seeing, like big, big

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<v Speaker 3>differences in left and right. A lot of people, some

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<v Speaker 3>people that you wouldn't think super strong. There some people

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, it might be eighty flows, you know,

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 3>only maybe pushing you know, eight hundred mutons or something,

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>which for me is like there's a couple of couple

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<v Speaker 3>of question marks there, so that that's that And probably

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the hit strength and the ratios between his strength has

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<v Speaker 3>probably been the biggest one for me and been a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of an harm moment for a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>clients as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and you've you said that perfectly, like after a

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>while you start to see those sort of trends across cohorts,

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, certain buckets of individuals or qualities as well.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>The calf one's very interesting if we want to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into that just a tiny little bit, do you Probably

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>two things come to mind for me is one is

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>people just don't train calves enough. They don't train them

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>heavy enough with enough intent. And then too, if they do,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>they're probably not doing enough bent kneework.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your what's your thoughts on that? Like from your perspective?

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 4>Look, mate, I I.

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't tell you, like I mean, for me personally, I've

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>never trained casks rectly well myself, we do the athletes

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I work with now, But yeah, I couldn't tell you,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 3>like if it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it could be that. It could be that they're oh, mate,

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 4>I honestly, I couldn't tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to be pretty ejective to here, and the

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 3>fact that that's just what I'm seeing, Yeah, I'd be

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>creating a narrative if if I guess why that is.

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 4>It's such a diverse range of people that we get

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<v Speaker 4>in here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've got like sixty five year old bloats

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>that might do a heap of foiling, surfing, stand up

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 3>paddle boarding, and mountain biking, right through to a thirty

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 3>five year old warden floor tyler.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they do outside of their training,

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact is when they come in here, the

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<v Speaker 3>recommendation I'll give them is they probably need to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit stronger.

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 4>There.

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>We've got a guy doing, a guy that was to

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<v Speaker 3>do a marathon, another guy that was to do one

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 3>hundred k event in the Blue Mountains, and you know

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 3>one of those guys, one or two of those guys

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 3>had really really weak that needs up. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>to myself, it's probably something you want to address. Otherwise

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 3>you might run in a few issues, not just in

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 3>the event, but in your training for the event.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and for you picking up those flags just again

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>further creates greater buying with those with those athletes and

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.719
<v Speaker 1>individuals that you're testing, right because as you said, you're

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>seeing things that they're not seeing, or you're also doubling

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>down on things that they may have read or understand

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>about their body as well. I guess the question there

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>is the follow up process. So you've got them in,

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you've assessed them, do you then say, hey, in eight

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>weeks or ten weeks after a particular cycle, would love

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to get you back in to sort of see where

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you're currently at.

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>What's the follow up process?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great question, and I'd be welcome. I'd

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 3>welcome people to help me with that. That's probably not

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 3>one that we're fully across yet. The question that I've

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 3>been getting is how, you know, how often should I test?

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 3>And I say, well, athletes will do some of these

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 3>tests every week and at very least probably every four

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 3>to six weeks. So if somebody is coming in to

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<v Speaker 3>get some testing, are usually what I've been saying is

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of booking, you know, in stwod of three months,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 3>so we're trying to get you know, three or four

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>of these in a year if we can.

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 4>But for these, yeah, that's that's one. That's pretty true.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 4>What I'm trying to what I'm trying to see is.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 3>The motivation people have when they leave here about wanting

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 3>to better their testing results, and potentially.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 4>That will be a little bit more organic. That'd be

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 4>the perfect case.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's that's a that's a that's a great

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 3>question that I probably haven't one hundred percent figured out yet,

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>hence my my novices as an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, mate.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that the transparency there's obviously fantastic because it

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just goes to show a lot of people love love

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to maybe sit on these ideas and not push them

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and and sort of I could have done this, I

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>could have done that, but you haven't read it, crack

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you learning on the lane. I'm sure if we're ask

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in four months time, you're going to have a completely

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>different answer. And that's the the perks of being a

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>business owner, mate, So I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what, yeah, thanks mate.

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I just said to the you know, to my wife

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 3>at the start, like when we started all this, I said, look,

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I need you to help me with all the business

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 3>stuff because all I want to do is just help

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>people perform their best. That's what I've been, That's what

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with that myself, and that's all I want

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>for everyone else.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 4>And I said, if we can make a living from this.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Or make a business from this, or you know, anything

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 3>to do with money and the business development side, I

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>need your help because I just I need to keep

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 3>this as my core purpose because that I feel like

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>that that is what's going to you know, cultivate, you know,

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 3>suggest in other areas. I just need to keep that

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>as myself purpose. So I'm sure I'll get some help

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 3>with that other stuff along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I reckon it could be really valid in a

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of months time to touch base with you again

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>with your wife as well, to be able to go

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>through some of those things, because I reckon a lot

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of people listening to this art coaches, whether they're working

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>for themselves or someone else, and they probably sit in

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a very similar boat as you, like they love helping people,

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>They love doubling down on the training side of things,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>testing side things obvious for your scenario, but that that

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>follow up to the next part to actually make it

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>viable living is probably the other part they're missing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, let's let's pencil that in, mate, and we'll

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of see where where you're at in a.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Little bit of time with with her by your.

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<v Speaker 3>Side as well well, Mate, I could be busting with

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>my hat out in the center of terrible.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 4>Mate when when your core so so yeah, it may

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 4>all of all of a ship.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I doubt it, Mate, I doubt it.

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I doubt it is I really want

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.959
<v Speaker 1>to start diving into this a little bit around your

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>professional career as well in sport, because we haven't really

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>touched on it yet. And I reckon, if you were

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to open up a textbook, mate, you have probably the

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>perfect career progression. Now I'm sure you can probably a

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>test that may not be the case. But let me

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>just read it out so people can understand why I

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>say this. So, your intern with the Junior Pathways with

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Rugby Australia, you're the SENC intern with the Newsouelan's Wartars.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>You're at SSENC at a private school. I'm not going

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to say the school because I'll just bombit the name.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You're an assistant SENC at Carnella Sharks, the head SENC

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Junior Wallabies, the Academy lead SENC and then

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>two senior SENC with the war Retars again SENC in

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>private with the newsoor Wal's Institute of Sport an IRL

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>West Tiger's head performance coach and now obviously at the

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Newcastle Knights, which we alluded to at the very start there.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So mate, like if you look at that over your

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>career there like a lot of people look at that

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and go that is honestly, that's the dream You've had,

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>A dabbled in sport, professional sport, across ages, cross codes,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit of school stuff again which is a different environment.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Then also the private stuff in the institute as well.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you say to that?

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 4>I say that.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a lot of there's a lot of grinding there

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>and actually looks really good.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>It looks great, mate, it looks fantastic.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>When when you email it to me. But I guess

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of there's a lot of space to

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>feel in between all that intern in terms of you

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>know that the things I have to do to get

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 3>some of those opportunities. Yeah, I will say I wasn't

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 3>the head of performance at the West Tigers.

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I was. I was I was a performance coach, which.

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>You do have written, so I probably read that wrong.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's typical of me.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That's fine. Yeah, yeah, I don't know where do you.

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Want to start, mate, Well, like honestly, so like the

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>process out of you worked your way through the you know,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the typical and the classical intern process, through to assistance

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>or junior programs and then through to the head programs

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>or the lead programs. So like looking at that there,

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>how do you how did you find that did each

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of those internships across multiple sports? You know, what information

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>did you learn, what people did you have some along

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the way that could then set you up to each

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>part of that.

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>The other thing, I think that.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You've done a really good job of again outside looking

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in multiple sports, multiple environments, which a lot of people

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>probably maybe would just say I'm just going to stay

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in rugby league or I'm just going to stay in

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>rugby union or soccer.

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah your thoughts on that, yeah, mate.

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 4>For sure?

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Well I guess the the Yeah, even just getting to

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>that internship that I had, like the Junior Pathways internship

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 3>I kind of had through UNI that was kind of

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>like we had to do some the hours and I

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>managed to get into the junior goal scored and I

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>coached the team every Tuesday and Thursday night.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.479
<v Speaker 4>That was some of the elite rugby union players in

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 4>my area.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>And then that internship that I had at the Waratahs

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 3>that I initially got knocked back to that internship in

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty thirteen and then I've got accepted in twenty fourteen.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Will let you know, I was I was twenty nine

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>when I did that internship, so I was or twenty

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 3>eight like I was, I.

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Was a little bit older.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 3>That was six days a week, that was full time, unpaid,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 3>and at the time I was living on the Central Coast,

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>so it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't all all you.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Paid in fancy like was it was a grind.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>We did eventually move down to Sydney where I you know,

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I worked in you know, I did that internship, but

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I was also working at Riverview College in the mornings

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 3>before that, so I drive over to Lane Cove and

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>then i'd leave there, I'd go to the Watoils all

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that and go back to.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Lane Cove.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>In the afternoons of the afternoonship and then we had

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>a twenty four hour caplay down the road for me

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 3>and I was working in my masters, so it was

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 3>it was it was a tough, tough, tough, tough year.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>But one thing that I feel like really helped me

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 3>is initially I thought I was doing the internship to

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>get a job. I was like, I've got to get

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 3>a job to get a job. But then I thought

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 3>to myself, I'm going to make it. I'm going to

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 3>do such a good job here that when I leave

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>there there's going to be a gap they're going to

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh that's what getting done or that they you know,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's the way I kind of approached it. That

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>helped me just to do a good job every day.

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 3>And when that winning the Super Rugby Total that year

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 3>for the first time, Mamber, that was really cool. I

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>feel like I played a small part in that. From there,

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 3>exactly that happened, I got I got off of the

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 3>job at the Sharks, and then that's why I kind

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 3>of left the Sharks after that year, because the Warritas

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>then came back and offered me an opportunity running their academy.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I think it was a two or

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 3>three year contract and I was like, beauty, just where

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>it all started.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 4>I want to get back there and then yeah, it

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 4>all kind of evolved from that.

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 3>But you know that that academy role that I had

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 3>at the War of Tars was like I was still

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 3>doing rehab for the senior team there and so I

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>was there at like six in the morning, I was

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 3>leaving at you know, probably seven o'clock at night, sometimes

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>like even later. And then yeah, that that kind of

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess cultivating into the junior Wallabies role where I

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 3>went over to Tabilisi in Eastern Europe, lived there for

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 3>six weeks, well, the World Cup was on and a

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 3>few changes happen at the Tars and then I got

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 3>my first senior role in Strength and Power and then

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 3>opportunity at end Swiss and then yeah, in regular leagues

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 3>where I've.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 4>Kind of found my home for the last probably well

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 4>almost five years.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 1>So saying, what's what's the value of having all those

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>different experiences to draw upon? You think like, obviously you

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>were as you mentioned there and I wasn't aware of

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that you were a bit older at the time, so

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you're probably coming with a bit more of a level ahead.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know who you are as a person

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>as well, which I think even from my own experience, mate,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Like when you're a bit younger, bit ego driven, you

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want to do everything. You know, you sort of take

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>everything really to heart and personally if you maybe make

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 1>a mistake or anything like that. A bit older, you've

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>got a bit of a different outlook on things. You're

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>probably older than a lot of the players as well,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>or the same age, which really helps.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 4>That's important.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, Yeah, what's some of the big things

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you sort of took out of that, like from your perspective.

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I think it goes back a little bit

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 4>from that, Like before that.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 3>The reason I was a little bit older is because

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I was I was trying to be an athlete myself.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 4>I was I thought I was.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Trying to make the Olygy Games as a fighter, as

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 3>a boxer. That's kind of what I've seen. That's what

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was going to do. But I was

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 3>just going to be a slight art until you know,

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 3>pro the mid twenties. But that's what probably delayed my

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 3>university and all that kind of stuff. So then when

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 3>I did finally get that internship, I guess I related

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to a lot of the players, you know, from that

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>quant of combat experience that I had and I could

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 3>work with a lot of them in that kind of book,

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, that boxing space, and I could relate to them.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 3>Really really helped me in and around you know that

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of you know that that high test poster owe,

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, competitive men's kind of environment, because I could

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 3>have my own there and and and I guess to

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>answer your question around what all those different experiences do

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>for me, Well, they I guess they give me versatility.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Because when I was at for instance and so far

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:51.879
<v Speaker 3>was instituted of support, I was working with a lot

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 3>of power athletes.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 4>So I had to really change the way I thought,

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 4>change my approach.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't just have this proble let's go, you know,

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 3>you gotta guitar or whatever, like I had to. You know,

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 3>some of those athletes that don't have use of their

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 3>lower lins, if you mess them up in their upper body,

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>their activities of vail and they didn't go down the drain.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.439
<v Speaker 3>So I had to really be methodical with the way

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I coached things. And yeah, and I guess just working

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 3>with a number of different personalities and both from the

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 3>staff and athlete perspective, men, women, young, old, you know.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Old school, new school. It's just given me and I'm

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 4>still learning. I'm certainly still learning.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 3>But it's given me a really good, I guess foundation

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 3>to be able to deal with different personalities and you know,

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 3>get the most out of people because I think something

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 3>that I can do really well.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And that ties back into what you're saying before about relatability.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Even with what you're doing now, right with the testing stuff,

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it all ties back in beautifully like that.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, I was the personal training before all

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 3>of this, and I reckon that. Yeah, kicker, honestly, man,

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 3>like that was one of the best things that ever

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 3>be Running groups training people like that game is such

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 3>an edge, such an inn you don't really we may

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>have a bit too much pride as an industry sometimes

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 3>to admit that, but that's fact to me.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Like running it, running a group.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Fitness session on the beach or a bosting class or whatever,

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Like when you've got like twenty thirty people that have

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 3>all come from work and they've just been looking looking

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 3>forward to this just to get it done and rip

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>in and then you're just kind of that ball of

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 3>energy for an hour and just know how to kind

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 3>of contain a group and motivate a group like that.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:40.919
<v Speaker 4>Study's an absolute goal.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more. I have we have a.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>What they called shooting placement in at the moment, and

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I was having a chat to it today around you

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>know what it was like for me when I started out,

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and like, literally that was what I said to our

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 1>personal training was where I started and sort of went

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>through that a little bit and I explained it to it.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh, how does that help you for this?

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, you can talk to anybody,

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and you have to learn to talk to anybody. There's

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>no there's nothing longer than a rest period of a minute,

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're not saying a word. That's like a microwave.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>They go forever. And I gave you the example. I

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>gave the example of what one of my mornings used

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to look like. And it was a bit of a

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>flashback thinking about even when you were saying that then.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>So in the morning, had had bar bells session for

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>group lifting for middle aged women called barb bells barbellas

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that was the play on words.

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, you'd have five or six.

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>It was not that day, So five or six middle

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 1>aged women that were essentially more like a powerlifting block

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and that was awesome, you know. So they're in at

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>five thirty till six thirty. Then at six six thirty

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I had a young fellow who was trying to lose

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>weight and he was a gay man, and that was

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a different story. Again, you've got to be very different

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the way you talk to him. Then I would have

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>an athlete come in. It's eight o'clock. It was trying

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to make Q Cup. Then at nine o'clock, I'd have

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>an elderly couple who were a track coach. He is

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>deaf as well, had hearing problems. So like all of

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, like in that space of four hours, the

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>diversity that you've just gone through, Like you're not going

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk to the group of women the same way

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>are going to speak to the elderly couple to the

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>same We're going to speak like they're just different conversations.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>And you've got to learn to quit, like talk very

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.479
<v Speaker 1>quickly or you're in all sorts.

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I know, I know, Yeah, yeah mate, I couldn't.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:22.399
<v Speaker 4>I could.

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 3>You've just absolutely nailed that. Yeah, I couldn't agree with

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>him more.

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 4>And that can you imagine if athletes author.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Already had a personal training course when well, I mean

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>we're probably in a different age back in here, but

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 3>when we're kind of starting personal training, like I would

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 3>have just rocked on that absolutely.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>What I wanted to ask you is a bit of

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>every leg fan, Yeah, cheers locks, you welcome. There's always

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a plug for him.

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Is mate.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>You've obviously, so you're at the sharky's now twenty fourteen.

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:54.720
<v Speaker 1>It's now twenty twenty four and you're at the Knights.

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a long time to be in in any industry,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>let alone a sport. What have been some of the

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest changes in the last ten years in the NRL?

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 1>And this could be anything in regards to your roles,

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the physical demand of the players, like what what have

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you just noticed between then and now? That's just been

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the biggest biggest difference will change?

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, probably the sports science.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's probably for me, the biggest one.

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 4>And I think.

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, there's definitely a lot more reliance being placed

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 3>on that.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 4>Again, at the moment, I think I could be.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Off the market, but I feel like, you know, the

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and fifteen Sharks, when I was there, there

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of guys at the back end of

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>their career, probably still from a little bit of that

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 3>old school, just real tough like you look at your poor.

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Gallons or Michaelis those sort of guys.

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Michael Lenness, Yeah, Luke Lewis just like tough guys have

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 3>just trained hard, like such real bloats. So funny you're

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 3>playing tricks on each other, and I think, like, now there's.

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 4>A lot more.

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Why are we doing Not in a bad way, but

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 3>like people like athletes wanting to understand why they're doing something,

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 3>how long they've got to do it, for, how much

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 3>they did, How can I improve this? Like just really

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 3>asking great questions. But it's just through this progression and

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 3>development of sports science even more, I guess, and I

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 3>think to an extent, like you hear the word load

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 3>and all that kind of stuff spoken about a lot

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 3>more in conversations with coaches and things like that through

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 3>every club, not just through this club. So I think, like,

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>I just think the acceptance of that and how it gets.

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 4>Used is.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 3>A lot more I guess developed, But not to say

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 3>that it governs everything that they do. I think there

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 3>is still a big old school train, hard work, ethic mentality.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Definitely in our club there is like our guys just

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 3>mate seriously, they just get after it like it is.

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 4>We have got some of the most like motivated, hungry.

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 3>They're like hungry dogs when they train, but they just

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 3>get after it's it's it's serious.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll stand back sometimes a lot. Wow.

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 3>So they're like guys who are still trying to make it.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 3>They look like a team that hasn't made it yet.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 3>But all the thought process behind the training and that

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 3>that they're doing is just a lot in everything.

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 4>It's just a lot more mostrotical, I think.

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so to answer your question in a couple

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 3>of words, it's probably the sports sides.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, what what do you think the biggest shift

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in the players mentality has been around that?

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they they see that they want

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to have good longevity in the game?

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it, you know, their own personal ambition?

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Like what you sort of see as like a bit

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of a generalization across the board from the individuals because

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I think rugby rugby league contact based athletes. You know,

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe in the past I still looked at the dummies

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>running into each other and whatnot, but really that's not

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the case.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Like they're very educated, smart individuals.

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<v Speaker 4>Mate, you cannot, you can no longer.

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Just you can't just say, oh, you know, footy players

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, they're They're not they are, they're they're just

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 3>they're they're just asked.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 4>They that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all like we're all the same. They're just really

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<v Speaker 3>a lot better at what they do than what we

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 3>probably work. But I think the motivation is exactly that twofold.

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>It's number one, it's the longevity. But they want to

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<v Speaker 3>know how they can sustain their career for the longest

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>period of time and be available every week and whatnot.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 4>But second to that, and probably more important than that,

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 4>they want to.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Know how they can get faster, stronger, bigger, more powerful.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 4>But they are just on a never ending pursuit of that.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 3>So the fact that we you know, I'm the strength

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 3>of power coach, there's and I'll look after the speed

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 3>as well, So you know, they fatal to me to

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 3>be able to have, you know, answers in those areas.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 4>And I think you cannot, you can no longer.

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 3>And I see you've already posting a lot of really

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 3>good content around different program structors and whatnot, some of

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 3>which I've definitely taken from. But you can no longer

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 3>just give a one size pitch all approach, Like they

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 3>need to feel like they're getting their their program individualized

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 3>and they're getting better individually as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So so I think I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Answered the question I think long longevity and just how

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>they can perform better for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And just just bridging off that they're what you said

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>there in the group environment. You know, you're obviously lucky

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in the professional setting more than some others. But even

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at a recreational level, when you've got one ks to

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a thirty athletes and you're trying to give them that

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<v Speaker 1>individual attention, how do you find mind that you can

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>deliver on that with maybe limited resources, if the younger

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>coach listening to that be able to really deliver on Yeah,

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to feel like I'm giving the athletes attention

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they deserve whilst understanding that hey, like it'd be impossible

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to stay up all night in program thir individual programs

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>let alone have that gym environment, right.

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh mate, seriously, like I've and you know, I'll just

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I went to that question a little bit in directly. First,

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you an example, like I have seen teams

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 3>be very successful doing just one program once I fits all.

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I've seen teams be really, really unsuccessful when a coach

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>tries to do thirty different programs, so you need to

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 3>be somewhere in the middle. I think the best way

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 3>to do it, there's a lot of ways. The way

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I like to do it is just bucket it. I

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 3>think we've heard lots of coaches talking about it. So

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 3>if I had thirty guys, you know which I did it.

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I spending when I was an ent. Switch

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 3>also looked after North Sydney the rugby union team old father.

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of bucketed.

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 3>I said, those guys need to get bigger, those guys

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 3>need to get stronger.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 4>So you guys are going to do air wraps and

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 4>back or sets, and you guys.

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Are just going to lift heavy stuff lots and really

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.280
<v Speaker 3>simplify it that way, like you guys are doing size

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>extras after every section, and you've got an extra section

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 3>the day before a game, and you guys are you

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 3>guys are doing more strength and power.

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.879
<v Speaker 4>Stuart and and it's just about then.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Aside from that, you know, if you're in that environment,

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Aside from that, it's just having conversations saying.

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 4>Hey, look mate, I've got you on.

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 3>You need to get bigger, so we need you doing

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 3>this is your diet sweet, and then you have a

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 3>couple of meal plans you've got to you know, you

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>might have a gainer's meal plan, you might have a maintainer's,

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.919
<v Speaker 3>and you might have a you know, a super's meal plan,

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you know like, and then you've got your your buckets,

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 3>your service and everybody and everyone's happy. Everyone's trying to

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 3>buying in. It's just that little touch point that creates

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of buy like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, no, it's great. It's great advice. I think exactly

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>what you said there. The more you can relate that

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to the athlete, even going right back to what we

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 1>said there at the start, and it sort of comes

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>right back to that, mate, the last question I got

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>here for you, and this is again just as a

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:15.880
<v Speaker 1>bit of a fan and this is credit to you

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 1>and obviously the team at the Knights today they actually

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>brought out the ladder, the live ladder of teams with

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the most and the least amount of games misdeed injury

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.439
<v Speaker 1>this year. I think Newcastle was seventeen of eighteen, so

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously great as a club that you're obviously succeeding

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in that there by having the best players available for

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the most of the season. The game this year is

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously gone on new speed, and we're seeing some different injuries,

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>some usual you know, your hammis being probably I guess

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 1>quite unquote the usual ones, but some different ones like

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>biceps has been big this year, PEX and obviously cancushion

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is still a big, big player from your perspective, again,

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>probably you've got a larger bandwidth than a lot of

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>other people in the last ten years. Anything that you've

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>noticed in the game at that level this year that

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>may have influenced some of that stuff, and even at

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a more grassroot level, things that coaches might be able

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>to do to start potentially maybe minimizing or reducing some

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of those injuries at their level as well.

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think, look, I don't want to crowd in

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 4>a narries on here.

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll just give my I guess opinion based off and

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what I see.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Firstly, I didn't see that list, so that's pretty cool.

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 4>I think of the.

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Three injuries we've got, two of them are breaks, So

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>there's this a hole that you can do with a

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 3>broken limb sometimes. But but yeah, so that's that's a

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 3>positive for our whole, our whole organization. But look like

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the answer your question, and I don't

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 3>want to give too many answers, but I think if

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>you look at the game from the outside, there is

0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 3>no question about how much fast are and how much

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 3>stronger and more dynamic athletes are. There is absolutely no

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 3>question there. The second thing would be that there's there's

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 3>obviously there's you know, I know, any our games there's

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 3>been a really high amount of ball in play that

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 3>could be chance, you know, I guess that could be

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 3>skill level. There's no errors, people sticking to the rules, understanding.

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 4>The rules a bit better.

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 3>The six again has probably been a little bit more continuity. Again,

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 3>that's not objective, that's just the way it feels.

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I think it's great.

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 4>What do you think? What do you think?

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, it's the speed of the game, exactly

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 1>what you said there. The time in play this year

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>is is the highest it's ever been. The average intensity

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>is the same as for a lot of the games

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>have been like Origin level, which is just phenomenal, And

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the combination of everything you said there, like just how strong, fast,

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 1>robust players are these days like things are going to

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 1>break after all, no matter how good they are, And

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, unfortunately, you're just seeing the downsides of that.

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And I know the clubs are looking at trying to

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>even rest players if they are having shorter turn arounds,

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:16.479
<v Speaker 1>if they are on sort of modified time frames around

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 1>injuries and things like that.

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 2>On the day, Mate, it's a contact based sport, things

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 2>are going to happen.

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 1>A lot of luck involved, and a lot of bad

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>luck is involved as well. Yeah, they probably might be things, Mate,

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>just to speed of the game. I think like Lox

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>gives a really good example actually around AFL when he

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>was at the Giants, they had a real change and

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>they noticed a massive spike in injuries for say that

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.800
<v Speaker 1>first six months of that real change because the players

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 1>hadn't adapted to the level yet. The following season, that

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>injury spike to drop back down to basically normal, and

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 1>then they bought it another rule change, and you sort

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of go through these ebbs and flows of real changes

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>where it takes a bit of an adaptation period before

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the players can get used to it, and then they

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 1>sort of get it used to it.

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 2>That's just one perspective as well.

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mate, Yeah, I definitely agree. I couldn't.

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, it's a it's a it's a

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 3>tough one. I'm sure some some really good data might

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 3>come out at the end of the year. I'm sure

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 3>there's smarter people than than us that are are definitely

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 3>than me, definitely punching the numbers, and you might be

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 3>able to point to something really meaningful at the end

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 3>of the year that we can all kind of create

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 3>interventions from or it might just feed the norm. Yeah,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 3>let's let's wait to see one hundred.

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Mate.

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time today. Obviously a

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>wealth and knowledge there across what you what you're currently

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 1>doing at the private facility with igh performed lab, some

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of your experience in professional sport, and obviously what you're

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>doing there at the nights as well. Mate, So thank

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you for sharing your knowledge with all of us, for

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 1>everyone who's listening and would maybe like to learn little

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>bit more about what you're doing privately, but also to

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>just following you along what you do a little bit

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 1>as well. Where would be the best place for them

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to follow you?

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Mate?

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh mate, Well, first of thanks to you guys, I

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>mean athletes will throw you guys are leading away, especially

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 3>in our country with some of the content you guys

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 3>are throwing out, and you know, just I know locking personally,

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 3>he's if I've got a question, he is so open

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 3>and honest, and yeah, you guys are doing such a

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 3>great job. So you know, hats off to you. It's

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 3>it's it's you guys need to be recognized for the

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 3>great job you guys are doing as well. If you

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 3>do want to follow some of the stuff I'm doing,

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 3>it's I perform Lab is the page to follow if

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 3>you did have a question or you know, you wanted

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 3>just to reach out and say today or whatnot, Hello

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 3>at our perform lab dot com is my email. So yeah,

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 3>if I if I either Matthew joh Man undet back

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 3>to you straight away, but I'll certainly get back to you.

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, thanks mate, awesome, Thanks again, mate, and looking

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>forward to continuing to see the excess of I Perform

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Lab and hopefully mate and you we make a good,

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>strong run in the back end.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Of the year as well.

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's see.

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I thinks Cross not not as good as the roosters.

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the plane. Ah, good jeez, brother,