1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to another episode of Fox Crickets podcast 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The follow On. My name is Courtney Walsh. I'm a 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: senior reporter based out of the Melbourne office. Please be 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: joined by former Australian star Fox Cricket favorite Brendan Julian. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Lovely to have you aboard, Brendan. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 3: Going to be here mate. 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 4: When I first got the message and going to catch 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 4: up with you, Afi, it was Courtney Welsh from the 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 4: West Indies and I thought, jeez, I didn't know he 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 4: was not a podcast just. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: A little slower be fair to say. I've never had 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the talent less hair. And I did meet him, no Brandan. 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I met him outside the MCG when I was about 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: seven or eight. I actually had the blonde. We waited 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: and he walked out of the MCG with Michael Holding 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: and talked to myself and my dad for about thirty 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: forty more and he was just outstanding that Michael Holding 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: was wonderful and I know you have come across both 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: of them all the way through, but they were. 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: So generous to a young man. 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: Well he was to me. 22 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: I've met him so many times, but one time I 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: do remembers I faced him on a hat trick and 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Antigua in the second Test match. 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: And it wasn't just as he wants to put you 26 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: outside the endct. 27 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: Did he get that hat trick ball? Did you actually 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: hold him out in? 29 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: Heally got out first ball, David Byrne got out. It 30 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 4: was ninety ninety five in the windows and I struggled 31 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: through and I remember I remember the first ball that 32 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: I fought. I bet he was at the top of 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: his mark, and I remember walking out there thinking, gee, 34 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: here's a long way back, and then looked back at 35 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: the keeper and he was way outside the ring. And 36 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: this was a Test match, and I'm like, man, this 37 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: looks fast. And then I remember Steve Warre coming down 38 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: at the other end. He goes, mane, he's not boiling fast, 39 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: don't worry about it. Just get your bat down. It's 40 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: going to be a Yorker. And I thought, yeah, it's 41 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: a good chance to be york And I remember him 42 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: running in thinking, right, Yorker, short backlift, just just block 43 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: it out, and sure enough was a bouncer and it 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: nearly hit me in the head and the wind over 45 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: the keeper for four buys and then Tuger walked down 46 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: the other and he goes Geene's bowled really quick. 47 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: Now, So I got through that. 48 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: I got through the hat trick, ended up getting sixteen 49 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: or seventeen or something that back in the end of 50 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: the day out. So yeah, fond Memories of Court You 51 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: was not not great, But I do remember I. 52 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Was going to say to you, are you someone that 53 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: wakes up in cold sweats at the thought of having 54 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: faced the West Indies? 55 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, Well on that tour ninety five only 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: got to face you know, Ambrose and Walsh, the other guys, 57 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: Joey Benjamin and and these guys Benjamin, Kenny, Benjamin and 58 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: a couple of other guys weren't full flight, but when 59 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: they get their towels up, and I was not watching 60 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: them in that series and I didn't have to go 61 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: out at all. So it was that incident to my 62 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: other incident was you remember that incident when Steve Warren 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: Kurt la Ambrose having that argument in the test patch. Well, 64 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: I was in next and I was I was yelling out, 65 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: why why is he stirring him up? 66 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: I'm going in next tried out on a green top. 67 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, there are frightening moments when you're thinking you 68 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: don't want to go out. 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: And that we had the what was it, the red 70 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: handkerchief and you were you were ready to wave the 71 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: white flag. 72 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, definitely. That was that was crazy at that time. Anyway, 73 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: and here we are. 74 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: It's great, I mean, and these are the things. 75 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: And this is why one of the pleasures of talking 76 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: to the Fox ship good families. Everyone's faced or played 77 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: against some of the great icons, and you can and 78 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: you can put them into context. You've got an idea 79 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: of how it is in terms of what's happening in 80 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: a modern game, but also what you know, well. 81 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's funny. 82 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: You know, you look at stats, right you see, you know, 83 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: Jimmy Anderson getting you know, I don't know how many 84 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: he's got probably thousand tests with you get straw Broad 85 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: and got to McGrath. But tell you what, Courtney Walsh 86 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: was a gem. I mean he's got five hundred test 87 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: wigts and boisy background. It's got a heap as well. 88 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: But I reckon Courtney Wish was the best flat track 89 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: bowler in the world. I mean it was a flat 90 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: track and nothing in it. He just seemed to get wickets. 91 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: And you know, you know in longevity. He just him 92 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: and then McGrath and Jimmy and they played for a 93 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: long long time. It's amazing, that, isn't it. Where I 94 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: don't know if you're going to get that out of 95 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: players now because you've got so much cricket being played, 96 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: but you know those guys would certainly do well in 97 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: this year now. 98 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: It's very very good to see it. But you've also 99 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: been exceptionally busy, Brendan. You've had If we're coming to 100 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the end of what's been a long each summer with 101 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: beginning all the way back with effectively South Africa given 102 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: the top end series, North Queensland, into. 103 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: A New Zealand tour, into. 104 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: India, coming out for some white ball cricket late late 105 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: October and November, the Ashes, and also what seems to 106 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: have been a really really good BBL series and I 107 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: guess just coming down to that, we're down to the 108 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: last four. You know, we know that tonight there's a 109 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, the Stars have got an answer against the 110 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: Hurricanes standing home, but the Sixers and the Scorches an 111 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: even season. 112 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: But do you see those are the best four teams? 113 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: Is that how you would have. 114 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Sort of seen it from what's panned out the ladder, 115 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: the table is telling the tale of who the best 116 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: teams were. 117 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 118 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I did the last game in Adelaide, 119 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: which was Renegades and the Strikers, and those two teams 120 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: are way off compared to the top four. At the moment, 121 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: I think they're I think, you know, settled out right. 122 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: It always does, you know, those are the top teams. 123 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought the perse Scads had a slow start, 124 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: but you know, you knew that they were going to 125 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: come strong. I think the big bonus has been for 126 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: the Sixers getting starkey back in Steve Smith. That's really 127 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 4: helped their cause as well, because I thought that batting 128 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: is a little bit light there in the Sixers and 129 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: that sort of helped. Hurricanes are always consistently very very good. 130 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: They've got a great list. I mean, look how well 131 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: they're played without Tim David yet I think Nathan Aalyis 132 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: is a big one for them him not playing that 133 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: game being injured. 134 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: And I picked at the start of the season that 135 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: starts to win the competition. 136 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: They look so good, I mean they have, they haven't 137 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: really fired without Maxwell. You know, Sam Harper has been 138 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: unbelievable for the Melbourne Stars. But they've just faulded now, 139 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: haven't they. I think they'll get up and I think 140 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: they'll beat the Hurricanes. I think Maxwell is a big 141 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: game player. I think they're playing him out of position 142 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: massively with storn It's batting him down the order. I 143 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 4: think this guy should be matten up the order high. 144 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't save him just for the power surgeon after 145 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: the ten homes, that's what they want to do. I 146 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: think he's better than that. I mean, he's gone to 147 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: the World Cup. He's better than He's better than ten 148 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: or fifteen balls. So I think that they get the 149 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: combinations right at the Stars, they can beat the Hurricanes. 150 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: Beating the Scorches in Perth will be that will be hard. 151 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: I mean there were a lot of traveling and they 152 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: play so well as Scorches. At home. 153 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: We talk about a couple of the young guns and 154 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: we saw one of them and we'll see them in 155 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: this I suppose conclusion Marley Bedman last night he ends 156 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: up getting the wicked of Steve Smith that there was 157 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: some saying this is the sort of coming of age 158 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: over almost in that performance. What have you seen of him? 159 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: What's impressed you? I remember being in wa when just 160 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: before the opening tests of the ashes, and you know, 161 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: you could sort of see he was as part of 162 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: that sort of squad getting some of the new guys 163 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: in what is impress You're about me? 164 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: Where do you think you can go? 165 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: I see when I first saw him, I hadn't seen 166 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: a lot of him until I watch him on the 167 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: TV and the Big Bash. I saw him to bowl 168 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: against Davey Warner here and in in Sydney, and David 169 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: want to fit him behind square for six. I think 170 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: first ball that he faced him, but the way he 171 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: came back and the way he bowled his line and 172 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: length against the left hander under a little bit of pressure, 173 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: I thought that was impressive. And I said straight away 174 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: said this guy's good. This guy's got a lot of pace. 175 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: Don't worry about the pace but his but his temperament 176 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: is very good, his actions great. He bowls well to 177 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: left handers's that's why I rek. And his strength is 178 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: he also bowls well to the right hand if he 179 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: can shape it away. But you could just tell there. 180 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: His temperament is very good and his pace was consistent. 181 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: So I thought that when I first saw him right 182 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: back at the start of the BBL. I said, if 183 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: they can keep him playing, I think he'll be really 184 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: really good. I think him learning that in this T 185 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: twenty format. I actually think he's a fifty over bowler. 186 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: I think he can be in the one day side 187 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: for Australia and certainly hold his line and length. Don't 188 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: know about Test grit yet, that's just too earlier. I've 189 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: never come out and call it, you know a bowl 190 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: of that statues straightaway that you played Test Grigg. It's 191 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: all about fitness for him. But I reckon he's got 192 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: great accuracy, and I think that's just something that you 193 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: don't it's very rare for a guy that can buy 194 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: one forty five and have great accuracy. He's got a 195 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: really tidy action and simple action. So I think from 196 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: that point of view, I think he can progress quite nicely. 197 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: And it's great that they're picking him straight away and 198 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: they're using him in the four overs. I think that 199 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: Ashton Turtis on you know what Marley's bowling, well, he's 200 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 4: getting better and better and better. And I think from 201 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: that first game that I saw him against the Thunder 202 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: and Sydney. 203 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: You know three or four weeks ago to where he 204 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: is right now. 205 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: I think he's improved, you know, and I think that's 206 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: a big time for him, and no doubt I think 207 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: it's a great mooved that got him up against Pakistan 208 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: on flatish wickets. He bowls quite well on flat wickets 209 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: and that's what I like about him as well. It 210 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily shape the ball away, although he can in Pakistan. 211 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: On subcontinent wickets, you need someone that's got speed through year. 212 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: And for Abola that he's not skiddy, he's quite tall. 213 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: He hits that back of a length, so I think 214 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: I think you could boil well on subcontinent conditions. 215 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: And that series of preparation for the I supposed to 216 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: the T twenty World Cup in Sri Lanka and India. 217 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: The series against Pakistan, the first time Australia has traveled 218 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: to Pakistani in four years for kind begins in about 219 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: a week or so, I think January twenty nine. We've 220 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: also got Jack Edwards going across there and Matt Renshaw 221 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: is in that in that squad no sorry T twenty 222 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: squad where we rested a couple of the place what 223 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, Jack would be one that's caught your eye. 224 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know what what what's good about him 225 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and a couple of others from the BBL that you've Yeah, 226 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: there's a couple that might make this in the in 227 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the maybe not this cycle, but in the next sort 228 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: of World Cup cycle. 229 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: There's there's a couple to look for. 230 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think certainly the T twenty in 231 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: the one day format. Jack Edwars has been a really 232 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: strong performan. He's been a strong performer for the Sixers. 233 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: You know, he's put his hand up with the bat, 234 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: he's put his hand up with the board. He's excellent 235 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: in the field. So I I think if he keeps 236 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: regressing as well, he's one guy that. 237 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: Will lock in. 238 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: He'll always be there because, as you know, the Australian 239 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: team at the moment, there's so many breaks and it 240 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: there's so many players that are resting, there's so many 241 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: players that are injured, there's so many players that are 242 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: awaiting to get back in the squad. 243 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: So it creates opportunity. 244 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: So you're going to need the players like at Jack Edwards, 245 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: you know, Sean Abbott and those type of players. The 246 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: Sixers keep churning out some really really good players. I 247 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: think Will Sutherland from the Renegades is another one. He 248 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: reminds me of a bit of a Jack Edwards. I 249 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: think Jack Edwards has got him at the bat at 250 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: the moment, but I think Will Sutherland's better with the ball. 251 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: But there are two players that I think Australia can 252 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: sort of back up in one day in T twenty cricket. 253 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: I think you're going to need those type of players. 254 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: I think Chowdrey is a great player from the Hurricanes. 255 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: I think he can come out and play T twenty 256 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: cricket for Australian in fifty over cricket for Australia. So 257 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: he got these young players that are getting the opportunity, 258 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: but it's taken them, you know, three or four years 259 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: to get to where they are at the moment, and 260 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: it's been a slow progression. They've taken on senior roles 261 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: and that's what I've loved about the BBL. I mean, 262 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: Will Southern is the captain. He should be batting up 263 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: in the order. He should be batting four and five 264 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: for the Renegade's not. He needs to he needs to 265 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: push himself up. Child is battered between one and six 266 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: for the Hurricanes and he's sort of taking the Tim 267 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: David rob but I think he's better than that as well. 268 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: And as you said, Marley Beeman can take one ball 269 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: and the power play and can come back and bowl 270 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: one in the surge or he can bowl you know, 271 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: two in the middle. 272 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: So he's got three phases of his bowling. 273 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 4: So I think the BBL has given those guys great 274 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: responsibility and I think that's why they're progressing. It's not 275 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: going to happen with every criticeter. Guys like Jake Fraser 276 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: McGurk need to sort their game out. Either one he 277 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: moves from the round gaze or two he bats at 278 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: four and five. I think I think god of the 279 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: days where you can just sort of go to the 280 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: top of the or and just slog and think you're 281 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: going to get away with it, and that gives you 282 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: a free license. That's not improving his cricket. Where you 283 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: see the guys like Sutherland, Beardman Chowdree and Jack Edwards, 284 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: they've taken on more responsibility. If players like Jake Frais 285 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 4: McGirk want to get better at their cricket, they need 286 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: to take on more responsibility. And what I mean by 287 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: that is to go, Okay, well, Jake, you're going to 288 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: back four or five next season for the running games, 289 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: but you're going to build a build an innings and 290 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: you're going to try and win this games. I don't 291 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: want to see at the top builder of slogging getting 292 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: your free license because I don't think that's improving his cricket. 293 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: So he's not the talent, he's no doubt about it. 294 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: But he needs to work and find a way for 295 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: him to improve his game. And you know that's the 296 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: beauty of the BBL. They can do that if they 297 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: get given that responsibility. 298 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: And it must be it's an interesting one. 299 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: It must be testing for a young man who has 300 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: had some success very very swiftly to then players in 301 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: all sports gets sorted out for a period. It's the 302 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: challenge of how you then find a way to rebound 303 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: and then excel. 304 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: And it's an interesting point you make. 305 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Does he take that extra responsibility as a man who 306 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: will be twenty four for I think probably next year. 307 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: Is he he's certainly getting ye? 308 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, it's a way for him to work 309 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: out for the captain, you know, Will Southern or the 310 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: coaching and you know Victoria or his coaches, Okay, well, 311 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: you know you're twenty four now, so let's try and 312 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: work out. Because in the BBL, as we've known, you know, 313 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: there's plans and you know you get worked out because 314 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: you know other teams do their homework. You know, they 315 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: find out they go okay, well he plays this way, 316 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: so we're going to change your bowl and we're going 317 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: to put a different ball rod. So you've got to 318 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: be able to adapt. He's not adapting at the moment. 319 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: And that's where I think you've got to sit down 320 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: in your offseason and go, Okay, what am I going 321 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: to be working on in this offseason? If I'm going 322 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: to England and playing I'm going to a different league, 323 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: You've got to have a process of Okay, how am 324 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: I going to make my game better? It's no point 325 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: me going in and playing in another league in England 326 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: and just doing the same mistakes and getting away with 327 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: it sometimes in England or getting away with it in 328 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: you know, the Caribean Premier League or wherever it is. 329 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: You've got to have a purpose to go, Okay, how 330 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: am I going to make my game better? How am 331 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: I going to make it better? So I can play 332 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: better and the BBL and get selected for Australia because 333 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: there are opportunities out There's no doubt about it. This 334 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: is the best time to be playing domestic cricket for Australia. 335 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: You know, there's. 336 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: Spots opening up in the Test side, there's spots opening 337 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: up the T twenty, and there's spots opening up the 338 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: fifty over Cree. There's no better time to be playing 339 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: domestic cricket for Australia. I mean you can see it 340 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: now where even the big game play is now resting 341 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: or they been their workloads have been wrestling. 342 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: So all that does is give you opportunity. 343 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: Marley Biebman, Cooper Conley, he's grabbed this opportunity and there's 344 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: a rising star of the competition Jack Edwards. You know 345 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: you're going to get opportunities, so you need to sort 346 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: your game out. 347 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: At the other end of the spectrum, Lendon, would you 348 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: be flicking if you're a selector, would be tempted to 349 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: flick a Davy Warner a steaky text to say, are 350 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: you available by chance in February? 351 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: What are you up to? 352 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: Look, there's no doubt he's played well, there's no doubt. 353 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's been amazing, a bit like Steve Smith 354 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: as well, but I think that ship is sale. You know, 355 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: we need to get better and there's no point going back. 356 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: You know, these guys have had great careers. I mean 357 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: Davey Warner, in my mind, I think he is the 358 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: best international cricket in all three formats in the last 359 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: twenty years. Barna, I think he's better than COLEI. I 360 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: think he's better than Steve Smith, you know, Roch Shalma, 361 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: all these greats. He's the top of the top of 362 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: the tree. I think David Warner has been the best 363 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: cricket in the last twenty years on all three formats 364 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: and he's proven that. So it doesn't surprise me that 365 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: he's scoring runs. He'll be disappointed that the Thunder aren't 366 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: getting into the finals. That'll be his big thing because 367 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: as a captain you want your team to be winning. 368 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: He's leading from the front. They're not following. They need 369 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: to sort out their plan, they need to sort out 370 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: their listen as well. So you know, I wouldn't be 371 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: going back to David Warner and these type of things. 372 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: I think that's a I think that's just one that's 373 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: moved on. I know Steve Smith come out and said that, 374 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: look he looks great and wants to go to the Limics. 375 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: I think that's too far gone the Olympics. I mean, 376 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: put him in the squad fisheral anchor. But you've got 377 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: to give credit to the selectors. I think they've done 378 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: a great job. I think the selections have been spot on. 379 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: The only thing I would say this summer is yet 380 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: they should have played a spinner at the seg and 381 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: the last Test match. But apart from that, you can't 382 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: question what they've done. So the plans have been perfect. 383 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: Pat Commers and George Bailey have done a great job. 384 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: So you know they sticking to their game plan. And 385 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately for Steve Smith, they couldn't squeeze him 386 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: into the squad, even though I would have liked him 387 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: to squeeze him there somehow. But who do you take 388 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: out at this stage? It's a tricky one. So you 389 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: know that's a hard. 390 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: One and just running you through. 391 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: When you talk about that, I suppose that disappointing campaign 392 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. We're seeing these back in twenty twenty 393 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: four and that World Cup. As we move towards towards 394 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: that we last one in Dubai in twenty twenty one. 395 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: The squad was announced, you know, a little while ago, 396 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: and you think you've touched on this briefly, but it 397 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: might get you elaborate a little bit more. You talk 398 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: about the fact that we've got a couple of players 399 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: being rested and that Maxwell's not going to Pakistan. For example, 400 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: We've got we still don't know necessarily where Josh hazel 401 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Wood's adding that team and whether or not he will 402 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: be fully primed. You know, he's someone who works exceptionally 403 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: well and looked so magnificent as we saw in that 404 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: against India before he hurt himself. Pat Cummins, I guess 405 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: he's in the same boat. And you run through the squad. 406 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I'll give a quick run through for those I haven't 407 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: heard it. Mitch Marsha's captain. We've got Bartlett in there, 408 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: Connolly he touched on before. Tim David, we don't know 409 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: where he's had injury wise, Cameron Green, Nathan Allie, Travis Head, 410 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: Josh Engliss is over as the sole wicket keeper, so 411 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: perhaps a little bit of a gamble there. Then youok 412 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: at Matt Cuneman, Glenn Maxwell, Matt Short, Marnus Sonus and 413 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Adam Zamper, So you. 414 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: Know, quite a few spinning options. 415 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: There some queries about whether our premier basement will be fit. 416 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: But you've got a couple of guns here obviously, and 417 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: Alison Bartlett as well, who are more than handy players, 418 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: aren't they. 419 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll go agree with that. 420 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: I mean, the bowling side doesn't sort of worry them 421 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: because I know what you're going to get from Pat 422 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: Commers and Hayes. So when we saw Pat Commers in 423 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: the Test manage when he came back and played last 424 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: Test match and then rested. So I don't have a 425 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 4: problem with pack Elms or Hayswood because I know what 426 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: you're going to get from those guys. What worries me 427 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: would be Maxwell. I'm surprised that he's been rested all 428 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: workload relieved or whatever you want to call it for 429 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: Pakistan because he should be playing. He's had a pretty 430 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: ordinary BBO from his standards, but he's good enough player 431 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: to turn it around. I'd rather see him playing Pakistan. 432 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: We'll see him in the finals, and you know, I 433 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: think him leading up to he needs more work rather 434 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: than less work, so I'd be putting the heat on him. 435 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: Tim David could be a little bit of an issue 436 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: because you haven't bat it for so long. I mean, 437 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: batting in World Cup conditions are tricky. You know, they're 438 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: not easy when you're coming in the middle lord. For 439 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: Tim Dave, you need rhythm. So hopefully he comes back 440 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: and he plays as many games leading into it as possible. 441 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: I think these training selectors are thinking like a Travis 442 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: Head situation where they rested him and gave him up 443 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 4: to the right up to the last minute and then played him. 444 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: Then he got one hundred in the final and the 445 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: fifty over World Cup. So I think they think they 446 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 4: can get away with it with that, and you know 447 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: they're closer to it, they're closer to the players they understand. 448 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: I mean probably for these senior players, it's it's more 449 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: about their mental approach if they can get into the 450 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: right space. I still think that you still need in 451 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: a bit of a rhythm as a as a batter, 452 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: especially in the middle order. 453 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: I think Travis said at the top of the order 454 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: can get away with it because. 455 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: It's a new ball fields up and you know, you 456 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: feel a bit a bit I think a little bit 457 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: easier in terms of you've got a bit bill time. 458 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: But if you're out there with Tim David you have 459 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: fifteen balls and you've got to try and hit thirty. 460 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: You haven't battered for a month, that's a bit of 461 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: an issue. 462 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't. 463 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: I don't worry about the bowling side of it. I 464 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: think the batting side of it's always initiated. You touched 465 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: on the spin. I think Cooper Connley has been the 466 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: most improved bowler in the bb along with Marley Beerman. 467 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: I mean Cooper Connley's bowling, He's nearly taking the situation 468 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: of a Maxwell. 469 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh. 470 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: I think Maxwell Harvey bowled on the BBL which I 471 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: don't get still and just hasn't used him it. Also, 472 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: I think Cooper Connley will be, you know, he'll be. 473 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: He should be in the team though out of what 474 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 4: batting six four or five eight, wherever it is. But 475 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 4: he's bowling is really really handy. Your left arm spinner 476 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: in subcontent conditions is always very good to take. 477 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: So I love that. 478 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: As you said, you've got Maxwell with the option of 479 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: the ball as well, and then you got Kodman as 480 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: a bit of a backup. Zamper didn't play the last 481 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: game against Rennegaz. He's been arrested. But I think he's 482 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: been the best white ball bowler you know, probably just 483 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 4: outside Hayswood, but he's been the lot for the last 484 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: couple of years and he's been the backbone about bowling. 485 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: I've got no problems with zams. I think it's a 486 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: pretty good squad. It just it just depends what the 487 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: format's going to be. Can I think take fifteen as 488 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: you said, you've got that backup keeper and I don't know, 489 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: maybe Maxwell to do if something goes wrong, or Matthew 490 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: Ways in there as a coach, he might he. 491 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: Might come out as well. Answer your question, I think 492 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 3: they've got to covered. 493 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: You know, obviously there's always worried when you've got players 494 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: that are injured, but I'm not worried about the bowling. 495 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: I'd only be worried about the batting side of things. 496 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: And just look before I let you go. 497 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: And it's been a pleasure to have you on Brendan 498 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: and the follow on leading into the BBL Finals and 499 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: then a big month of cricket to come for Australia 500 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: in terms of Pakistan and then the World T twenty 501 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: T twenty World Cup in Sri Lanka and also in India. 502 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: We look at the format and we've got a five 503 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: match basically. You know, there's a twenty team World Cup, 504 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: so you roll through your first five teams effectively, look 505 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: at that and you think, well we should get through. 506 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: We've got sites like oh Man and that we should 507 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: be okay. Then you go into another round robin format, 508 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: the super eights. It's an extended period just to try 509 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: and progress, to try and get to that semi final, 510 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: isn't it? And I guess there's a small marginal prayer 511 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: but not much you need to be on it. And 512 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: it can be a little bit like Russian rule at 513 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: these sort of World Cups and T twenty matches. So 514 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: how do they prepare for that? How do they go 515 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: about it? 516 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: Well, look, Pakistan two is a good one, but you're 517 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: not going to get most of them, you know, probably 518 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: only going to get ten of them that are playing 519 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: in those games. I think leading into these types of things, 520 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: it's it's more about getting plays fresh, and that's what 521 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: they think, that's what they're doing. 522 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: You know. 523 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 4: Obviously Pat Cummens Hayes would come back from Ntory. You know, 524 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: Travist's had a bit of a break as well. They're 525 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: rotating Maxwell and these type of things as well, So 526 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: if they can get to that situation where they're fresh, 527 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: that's probably a big plus. Like I said, I worry 528 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: about the batting, the amount of digs that they're having. 529 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: That's a bit of an issue for. 530 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: Me, you know. 531 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: And when you go to the subcond you get you 532 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: get over there and you get through those souper a 533 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: series and I'm expecting that, you know, obviously the boys 534 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: to get through to that and get into that last 535 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: qualifying sort of period. You can hit the ground running 536 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: and be nice and fresh, and I think that's it. 537 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: It's been a big summer for Australian so they're trying 538 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: to rotate the rest of the players. 539 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: They've done that. 540 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: You know. 541 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: The proofs always in the pudding, isn't it. 542 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 543 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: you could always criticize Australia about wrestling players and then 544 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: they go and play in the IBL and they're saying 545 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: that they're tired, but you know, come out and they 546 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: win like they did against England and the Ashes they won, 547 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: so you can't. You can't question it, So it only 548 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: gets in trouble when you don't win, and then and 549 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: then the hallmarks they start open up a bit as well. 550 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: But I think in the next year you're going to 551 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: see a lot of changes cameraon because one they're aging players. 552 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: Two there trying to rotate them and rest them, and 553 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: three there's so many tests. But I think there's ten 554 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: test matches in the next eighteen to sixteen months, a 555 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: lot of one day tournaments. We played Bangladesh up on 556 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: the top end. After the World Cup, they traveled then 557 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: I think to South Africa, they come back into New Zealand. 558 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: So I think we're going to see a lot of 559 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: different players coming in and out of the teams. 560 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: And I'll put you on the spot for the last one. 561 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: I know you talked about the Stars you thought had 562 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: the depth at the start of the BBL you you 563 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: were w a Bourne based in Sydney. 564 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Who do you go for in the last four? Who 565 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: wins it off the mat? 566 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to see the Stars perform. 567 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: Really, really, what was I think Marcus staun This is 568 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: really you know, he seems to have got that team 569 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: cranking along, But I think they've stumbled in the last 570 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: couple of games. Nathan Allis is a big loss for 571 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: the Hurricanes in this game, Maxwell Stein is these big 572 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: name players, basically, Sam Harper's carried the side. I love 573 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 4: Pete Siddle the way he's bold. I love Harris Rolf 574 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: the way he's bold. In this BBL competition, I'd like 575 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 4: the Stars to go through. I don't think they're going 576 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: to beat the Scorches. I mean, they've got to travel 577 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: all the way over to the West again. But at 578 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: the end of the day, you don't look at the 579 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: Scorches list. Man, it's so good. I mean Ashton Turner. 580 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: I even thought, even during the BB out of the season, 581 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 4: could they put Ashton Turner. 582 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: In the squad for the work up? 583 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, mate, East bat in five or six 584 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: power hit at can Bowl. 585 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: It's got all the attributes and. 586 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: All the sidhets. 587 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't fit him in the team really, 588 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, I think they need to put this 589 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: guy in that I need to get him into the squad. 590 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 4: So and then we still talk about Steve Smith. He 591 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: should be in the squad as well. If they don't 592 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: perform well in the World Cup, people are going to go. Well, mate, 593 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: seats mean should have gone, and Ashton Turners had gone. 594 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: All these players should have gone. So you know that 595 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 4: that per scorgeous squad is exceptional. I think Mitch Marsh 596 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 4: he's a big game player. He's my pick for the 597 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: best player of the World Cup. I think he'll come 598 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: out and cream. I mean he he's got unbelievable power, 599 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: great great sort of philosophy, the way he plays the game. 600 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: I think players want to play for him. And as 601 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 4: I said, and I think Cooper Connley is a big 602 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 4: game player, even though for a twenty two year old, 603 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: he's improved and steadily on the rise with his game. 604 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: So they're two good players. And then as I said, 605 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: you have Bierman who's bowled really well. Over there, Aaron 606 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: Hardy is a power player in the middle order. So 607 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: you look at the list there of the scorches made 608 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 4: God Richardson forgot about him, I mean when you're forgetting 609 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: about him and I got up there. 610 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: So that's that's a pretty good list. 611 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: I can't I can't see too many teams getting past 612 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 4: that list, especially over there in Perth. 613 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: Noll and Mitch Marsh a good North melwen Man bless him. Look. 614 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Brendan for joining the following I 615 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: hope you did get a little break after the after 616 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: the summer as well, but it's been enjoyed. Have you well, 617 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: have you beaming through into the screens across the 618 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: Thanks so much,