1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Hey checks, I'm out and I'm sal. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: And this is two broad Chicks, the show that shares 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: life lessons and tips to help make you rich in life. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: And Welcome to What's the Tea with Maddie McCray. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Yay, welcome, thanks for having me. 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: I know, I feel so expeccial. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: So new format, and I'm so excited that you're our 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: first guest for What's the Tea, where we're basically going 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: to break down the tea on the internet this week 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and then our life lessons from said tea. So we've 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: got some very exciting stories where all three of us 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: will bring some tea and we shall discuss exciting So 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: shall we get straight into the tea? Yeah? 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Jeers, geez, that was so fun. Okay, time for the tea. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: My tea of the week is obviously the Grammys Iconic. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: I know. So we had the Grammys on Monday, and 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I feel like this Grammys was bigger than normal. 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: Don't you. 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: Grammys is back. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Music's biggest night of the year. 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: I've got it hasn't really been as big in past 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: years as it was this year, it just hasn't really 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: been on my feet as much, do you guys? 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: It's definitely been spoken about more everywhere. 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: Who was everyone's best dressed? 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Sabrina Serena looked in incredible? 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: What about you, Sour? 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: I really loved Lady Gaga's look. I felt like that 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: really encapsulated her Mayhem era, which I always like when 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: artists do that, like a nod to the era that 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: they're in. 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: But also shout out to Haley and Justin Bieber and 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the other celebs for wearing the. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Ice out pins. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably my favorite accessory of the night. Literally, my 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: favorite best dressed was also Zara Larson. 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just for a moment and I was. 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Kissed that like gold dress. It was gold. Yeah, it 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: was like a goldie green. Yeah. Yeah, truly Midnight Sun. 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm just collapsed to her and that rebrand. But before 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: we get into it, I've got a lot to break 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: down in terms of tea amazing. First off, it was 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Travis Noah's six and last time hosting the Grammys. 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Now did you watch it? 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: No? 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: This is actually great that I'm here because I actually 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 3: be getting the run. 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 4: I need the tea because I kind of I saw 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: the red carpet stuff, but the rest of it I 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: kind of just didn't watch. 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: So he did not pull his punches in terms of hosting. 56 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: In his opening monologue, he literally roasted in a humanage, 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: oh and her current political stance, saying that she wasn't 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: at the Grammys because she was too busy at the 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: White House. I mean most people started cheering, which I 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: think tells. 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: You a lot for the people that were there. 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he basically made it very very clear where he 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: stood in terms of his political alignment, and so did 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: a lot. 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: I did see some highlights. Yeah, I think it's kind 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: of great. 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, right. 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what people have been wanting from celebrities 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: in recent years, whether it be with Palestine or with 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the election. 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Like people want celebrities. 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: To speak up, and I understand why some people like 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear Sabrina Carpenter's stance on politics, 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: and then other people were like, no, like they should 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: be speaking up about what's right and what is wrong, 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and like a lot of the things that we're seeing 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: isn't politics. 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: It's like human rights, human rights, and just so it's 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: a step above I think what they're going through in 80 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: the States is kind of like you can't stay silent now. 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: It's very interesting to see, especially celebrities like Sydney Sweeney 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: coming out saying that like it's not her job to 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: discuss politics, but to make art. And then within a 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: couple of days we have something like the Grammys where 85 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: so many acceptance speeches on what's going on at the moment, 86 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: especially with how scary it is in America at the moment. 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Some of the celebrities included Olivia Dean, who stated Some 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: of the most powerful speeches from the Grammys included Olivia Dean, 89 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: who said, I'm up here as the granddaughter of an immigrant. 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here. 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm a product of bravery, and those people deserve to 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: be celebrated when nothing without each other bad. 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Bunny said, I'm ice out. The only thing more powerful 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: than hate is love. We need to be different. 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: If we fight, we need to do it with love, 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and Billy Eilish said, fuck ice, no one is illegal 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: on stolen Land. Kilaney also had an iconic speech and 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I just thought it was unlike any other awards ceremony 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: or celebrit pretty event that we'd ever seen. Like you 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: might not be interested in politics, but politics is interested 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: in you. Like, we can't separate these things out anymore. 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: No, we can't ignore it when it's this big, and 103 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: like we're in a different time. Whatever's happening in the world, 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: Like we're in such like there's so much chaos happening, 105 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: Like you can't turn a blind eye to it anymore. 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Mark Ruffalo is God, did he. 107 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: Lose his contract with Marvel? Rumored that he might allegedly 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 4: lost his contract for speaking up? Isn't that just so sad? 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 110 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: I just had a rumor about it that maybe he did. 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: But that's the thing, It's like, that's why we need 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: more and more people speaking up so that because it's like, 113 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? 114 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: Fire everyone? 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Throughout the night, we also heard from a lot of winners, 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: including Olivia Dean for Best New Artists, which she absolutely 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: deserved to win that. Lady Gaga also won multiple Grammys. 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny and also you may not have seen this 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: because it wasn't shown on the Telly if you will 120 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: in like the main event, but Cynthia Arribo and Ariana 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Grande one a Grammy for defying gravity. 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that. Yeah, so I wasn't shown. 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: There's like a mini Grammys that happens for all the 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: other categories that aren't like considered as big mainstream. Yeah, 125 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I was so surprised that that wasn't included. But they 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: weren't there either. Yeah, so I wonder if that hasn't 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: been But Ariana Grande hasn't attended the Grammy since twenty twenty. 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, does she have bay for the 129 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: Grammys or what? 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: Well? 131 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: I also wonder are we over the Wicked Fever? Are 132 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: we done with them? 133 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm not. 134 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm still at the restaurant, still defying gravity. I'm still sobbing, 135 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm still wowing. 136 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: And I'm lying that. 137 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know because she's so good. 138 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 2: She is the best. 139 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I love her. 140 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: I do not know this man. This sound's favorite one 141 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: is I'd Be a Rock. 142 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: I get like like the list of her best moments 143 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: on my feet. 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Never skied TikTok. 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I also love the one where she goes but the 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: two years, Wendy you weren't there, and she's the best 147 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm going to discuss a current current 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: queen that we've already addressed and her outfit. But Sabrina Carpenter, 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: so she opened and did you watch her performance? Yeah? 150 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: So she performed Manchild, which, like, there were so many 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: comments I saw on like reels and TikTok and being like, oh, 152 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: she's still performing this and. 153 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm like it only came out a couple of months ago. 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: To move on. 155 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: But I'm like, she has obviously had. 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: So many hits that have played so much that I'm like, 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm still subscribed literally. 158 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: And she's been nominated for that album. 159 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's going to put why not one of the 160 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: biggest hits off that album. Everyone okay, But more excitingly 161 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: is in that performance. It was set in like an 162 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: airplane airport, airport, lounde tarmac kind of vibe, right, But 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: in the backscreen of the show was like destinations and 164 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: dates and people are theorizing that Sabrina Carpenter is doing 165 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: a Man's Best Friend World tour. 166 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Yes, you better be coming to Australia. I'm going to be. 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: Melbourn was on the list. Yeah, Melbourne was on the list. 168 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So they had Rome, they had Nashville and on 169 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: the list amongst it was Melbourne to be included. So 170 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people because we haven't gotten 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: a Sabrina tour yet outside of the Era's tour, which 172 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: she came to Taylors with. Yeah, I think she'll definitely 173 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: be coming, whether or not that was a easter egg, 174 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: but I would say that whether it's this year or 175 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: maybe like the beginning of next but yeah, she's got 176 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: to come. Yeah. 177 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: Well, Short and Sweet was like arguably her biggest, like 178 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: her big breakout album. 179 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: But I think what's called Man's I think it's just 180 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: as big, if not bigger. 181 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: I agree. You've seen we've seen her speaking and attending 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: so many more events, and she did that talk. 183 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: I think it was that a variety thing maybe, and she. 184 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Was discussing, you know, how to make a viral hit 185 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: and how like Man's best Friend, Like that's not the 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: intention when she's writing, Like she just wants to make 187 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: music and if you're trying to make a viral hit, 188 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: that's the last thing that you're going to do. 189 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: That's the same thing with content though, trying to go viral. 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: She was nominated for six awards and she didn't win. 191 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Any I saw a little compilation of her face. I 192 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: don't know why people do it, But she just couldn't believe. 193 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: She didn't win. 194 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: But then the people that did win, though, You're like, yeah. 195 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: I think that's like the Oscars, right, every time he 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: was nominated, there was someone who was more deserving of 197 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 4: is so incredible every time. 198 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: I think it's the same thing with Sabrina. 199 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Or even Beyonce too, Like she only won Best Album 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: last year and there were so many times that she 201 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: could have and probably should have. 202 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Won it before that said it. 203 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck. 204 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: God, Yeah, okay, and now some quick fire of Morte 205 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: from the Grammys. Serena Carpenter also called out the paparazzi 206 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: for behaving themselves and well she credited to Chapel Ronan 207 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: was like, well, Chapel Rones whipped you all into shape 208 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: to the paparazzi, and I was like, that's amazing. Harry 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Styles also walked out to where is my husband? 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: There? 211 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: He is. 212 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: Ever's husband, literally people's husband. 213 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Travis Snowell also made a joke to Hailey Bieber asking 214 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: for a discount code for a Liptin and Justin Bieble 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: was not a fan. 216 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: He literally was like, he's not fun anymore. 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: He's just ruined. 218 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Like the industry, I think is just he's done. 219 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: He made like a post in twenty sixteen about how 220 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: much he hated like a war ceremonies like the Grammys 221 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: and how he found them really really fake, and that 222 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: like he looked around the room and that everyone was 223 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: basically spiling for like the fear of the camera being 224 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: put on them and like them pulling a weird face, 225 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and that no one's actually there to celebrate you, because 226 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: they're there to like either network or celebrate themselves. 227 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: And so fair is we do scrutinize every series. 228 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: I could not that I've been invited, but I it 229 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: would be so stressful going because like everyone's going to 230 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: judge your outfit. Everyone's going to judge like if you 231 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: like even I twitch a little bit at the fact 232 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: that you don't twitch. 233 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Like yeah, being like, oh, look at her reaction. She 234 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: didn't win. Jesus all loser. 235 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like you can also be a little 236 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: bit disappointed if you did. I went and then Alex 237 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: Warren's earpiece broke, which caused him to lose his timing 238 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: during his performance for Best New Artists, So when he 239 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: was performing, he was out of time and it. 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Was really weird. 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: You could tell something was going on because he started 242 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: fiddling with his earpiece, and I just felt for him 243 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: so much because this is obviously such a big career 244 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: moment for him. 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: He's a new artist. 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: He's definitely like stepping up out and away from like 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: you know, the TikToker musician. And anyway, during his performance, 248 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: he was out of time, and he posted a TikTok 249 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: after the Grammys explaining what happened, and in his earpiece 250 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: this is what he could hear. 251 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: It actually breaks my heart. 252 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Don't just make you want to cry for him, like 253 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: you just not stop. 254 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: I would have just been like, that's it, cut, the 255 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: show must go on, Like you wouldn't be able to 256 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: be like cut, like you just have to push through, 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: and that would be so overstimulating. That was like when 258 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Howry Styles performed at the Grammys as well, and he 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: performed as it was and he was on that like 260 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: rotating disc and it was rotating the wrong way. 261 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: So he had like choreography. 262 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: With dancers someone's getting fired. 263 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and had to basically do the routine backwards, and 264 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: then at one point he had to like jump off 265 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: or like walk off the platform, and he kind of 266 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: like stumbled as he was going off, and yeah, it's 267 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: like they just have to remain professional business, right, Yeah. 268 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: But I wonder like that's that's mortifying, like as a performer, 269 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: to have a bad performance, that's like not your fault. Yeah, 270 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: to like Devil's advocate, that's going to provide some buzz 271 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: for him. Yeah, maybe like offer like a redemption performance. 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: Or the comments were so nice and supportive. And then 273 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: finally my last tea is a Glandbot's done. 274 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alambot's like a week now. 275 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm I'm done And it's such a shame. 276 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: Do we think think it's just because we're over it 277 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: or because of the controversy with Cole both? 278 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: I think it's both. 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: I feel like both Glambots and then also the three sixty. 280 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: Cam cam Oh yeah we got over that a while ago. 281 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: Is that the one with the ring like project? 282 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like the boomerang of twenty six over. 283 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: All to provide contacts. 284 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: Cole's being canceled because of like an old email that 285 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: like somebody had asked for him to do the Glamdbot 286 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: at like a private event, and he basically just went, 287 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: you can't afford me, that was the energy. 288 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Did you not say this? 289 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. 290 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: Yes, this is why Cole's being like canceled and he's 291 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: had to post some apology videos. 292 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: And it's from like ten years ago. 293 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: A woman emailed him asking for a quote because she 294 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: wanted him at like a wedding or is something something private, 295 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: and the energy he gave back in the email was 296 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: kind of like well, he didn't even give the price. 297 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: He's like, you can't afford me, it's so extensive, and 298 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,479 Speaker 4: I think he quoted something like three hundred thousand dollars 299 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: something obscene, right, which was like before bot, like you know, 300 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: heyday Woul. She's like yeah right, and so he was 301 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: like really salty about that. But I wonder if it 302 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: happened because of Jlo at the Golden Globes, So did 303 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: you see this? So what happened at the Golden Globes 304 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: for the Glambot is Jlo was really cold and she 305 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: just like didn't acknowledge him. 306 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: Right, He's just like, hey, how are you? 307 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: And she just like walks gets some position and he's 308 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: like talking to her explaining how the Glambot works. She 309 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: just turns away from him, away from the camera basically 310 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: getting in position to start her Glambot. He says action, 311 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: she does her thing, and then he's like thanks so much. 312 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: She doesn't look him in the eye and walks away. 313 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: But then Cole uploads that without editing it. He just 314 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: upsloads the entire bts of Jlo, letting it speak for itself. 315 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Right, Oh shady. 316 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: So I actually think. 317 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: This is a theory online that Jalo's PR team has 318 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: dug up some info on Coal and posted this email 319 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: thread to cancel him. I think it's JLO. 320 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: But he also posted a TikTok addressing that with Jlo 321 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: and was like, you know, Jaylor arrived on the carpet 322 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: a bit late, like the carpet had closed. So that's 323 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: why she was like she was such a professional, Like 324 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: she was just rushing. She knew what she was there 325 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: to do. She's done Gladbot's in the past, and then 326 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: like she left, but he was the devil's advocate for 327 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: her afterwards afterwards. 328 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: But maybe that's him trying to cover and then she's 329 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: dug up. So that's the theory online. But so that's 330 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: why there's like a little bit of you know, hate 331 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: towards Coal that he's like not a nice guy. 332 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: He wasn't there for the Grammys. They had someone else. 333 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: But I mean, like the Glandbot's still kind of slaid, 334 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: you know how sometimes there's so many fails and you're like. 335 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: Is it because of him? 336 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: I would be a fail? I would be a fail. 337 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: There's no way I would do a good game. 338 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: I've done won because he chok Awards and I did 339 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: the first. 340 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: Did you I did one two years ago and I 341 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: am yes, yeah, because was he nice? 342 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: He's lovely? 343 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Oh. 344 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: I actually think it's just like a humiliation ritual. Actually 345 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: that's what the Glandbot is. And maybe we're starting to 346 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: realizing and that's why it's been canceled. 347 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just like a class thing and people 348 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: like it's become like it's become a like the fact 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: that it's now easier to access and is at so 350 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: many events has taken it off the pedestal special. Yeah, 351 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: that it's less special now. It became a trend. And 352 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: as trends do, they diy. 353 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: The gen zs have just decided it's not cool and yeah, 354 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: it's like emojis apparently. 355 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: Literally, Oh, I'm going to use emojis into will be 356 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: on like my funeral. 357 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: And there'll be the death emojis above your head. 358 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: Literally dead. Literally, I'm literally dead. Oh my god. 359 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Maddie me what let me bring it up. 360 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: I'm less prepared than you girls, but I have not 361 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: seen the Grammys because I've been too obsessed with Bridgeton. 362 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 363 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: And we will be having spoilers, yes, so if you 364 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: sorry haven't seen it fast forward, we'll put the time 365 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: stamps in the show notes that you know which parts 366 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: to skip through or just pause this episode, go watch. 367 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: It and then come back that you can hear what 368 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: we think. 369 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: Season four, part one, yes, has dropped, and I have 370 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: to say, Bridgeton is so back. 371 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: It's so bad. 372 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: Really scared you're going to say, like so back. 373 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: I love it so much. I'm actually rewatching season one again. 374 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gos. 375 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: I know. 376 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: I did this for Stranger Things as well. 377 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: Part one dropped, then I watched the whole series again, 378 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: and then part two dropped, So I'm doing it again 379 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: for Bridgeton. And I think that we kind of fell 380 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 4: out of love with Bridgeton in season three. 381 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 382 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 4: I don't know what your opinions were of it, but 383 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: it just didn't land in the same world. 384 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: It didn't. 385 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a few things about season three that 386 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: I didn't love. I felt like the chemistry between the 387 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: main couples weren't there. I felt like it was a 388 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: bit forced. There were too many storylines, and they had 389 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 4: press on nails and fucking cock creases. And you know, 390 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: now that I'm going back to season one Bridgeton, I'm 391 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: noticing that there was much simpler in its makeup and 392 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: its design and it's costuming, which kind of let the 393 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: story in the romance shine. And I'm finding that's happening 394 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: with season four. 395 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: Going back to its room. 396 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I really feel like there's a strong chemistry 397 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: between the main couples. We've got Benedict and Sophie. Sophie's Australian, 398 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: which we love to see, so she's gorgeous. So I'm 399 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: just really obsessed with with the storyline. 400 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: What do you guys think is the best Bridgiton season? 401 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: Season two? Season two? 402 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: I agree? 403 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: I agree Season two without a doubt. 404 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: The chemistry between Jonathan Bailey and Simoan Ashley, Yeah, incredible. 405 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: Jonathan Bailey could have chemistry with a Yeah, like his 406 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: chemistry with literally Cynthia Ribo, His chemistry with like, no, 407 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: he has chemistry with me. 408 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he could though, Yeah, like it as well. 409 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: I found out actually how they do the sex scenes, well, 410 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: at least for Jonathan Bailey's sex scenes, if they have 411 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 4: a half inflated volleyball between their groins, and that's how 412 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 4: they can like thrust. 413 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: So because you're like, I think about it? What okay? 414 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: As hard? 415 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: I find that out. 416 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: I saw it somewhere. It was probably a TikTok, you know, 417 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: which is a. 418 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: Reliable the bridgit for the bridgist and spy scenes. They 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: inflate a volleyball and put it between their nether region. 420 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: Let me give you some behind the scenes about being 421 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: an actor and an intimacy scene because it's choreographed like 422 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: a dance, like it has to be. You have to 423 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: ask permission for every place that you touch a person beforehand. 424 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: Right. 425 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: You can't just improvise a sex scene, right, It's so 426 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: not on, especially in twenty twenty six. There has to 427 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: be permissioned. They have what's called an intimacy coordinator or coach, 428 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: and you'll choreograph a sex scene beforehand. But bridgis and 429 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: sex scenes are so intense that you right, so by 430 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: the way, Violet Violet, Oh. 431 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: My god, she has eight billion children now kicking my feet, 432 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: I have a billion children. 433 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: So she looked amazing. 434 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: Also really want to have a pre coel series for 435 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: her and her husband like they did with a Queen Charlotte. 436 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh, that would be great. 437 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: And I was watching season one last night and like 438 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: some of the sex scenes between Daphne and the Duke, 439 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 4: and I'm like, they are surely they're fucking. Yeah's penis 440 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: is in her right? 441 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, how are they not? It's a volleyball, volleyball. 442 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: Imagine being that volleyball because, oh my god, that volleyball 443 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: has also had eight children. 444 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 3: Wilson Wilson Jr. 445 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: Because also like, as a woman, if I get aroused, 446 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: I can hide that. 447 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always think that. 448 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I always think that because your body would just like 449 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: male actors body. Surely they're just like reacting to the 450 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: emotion of the ocean. 451 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, surely you're getting hard you have to. 452 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm loving it, but I have some questions for 453 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: you girls about the new season. Okay, firstly, we have 454 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: a trope or like a storyline that is inspired season four, 455 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: which is Cinderella. 456 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we brought this up. Well, you brought this up 457 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: when we watched the first two. Yes, it's because you 458 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: already knew. 459 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could tell. You could tell from the trailer. 460 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: So I haven't even read the book. 461 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: And the trailer was very very much giving Cinderella retelling, which, like, 462 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: there are so many stories that use classics, if you will, 463 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: as like a retelling like Akatar is actually a beauty 464 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: in the beast retelling. 465 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: So it's like the Lion King as Hamlet. 466 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, but I just I don't know. 467 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little bit too close to 468 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the Cinderella storyline. I feel like in the first episode 469 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: it was almost exactly too obvious. Yeah, and then as 470 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: it has gone on, by the fourth episode, it has 471 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: veered away a story which I was thankful for because 472 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: I was like, if she starts speaking to mice, like, 473 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: it's too far. As much as I love Cinderella, but 474 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: it just feels unless like each season was like heavily 475 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: based on fairy Tale, a well known story, then that 476 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: would make sense. But then all of a sudden, for 477 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: season four to be so heavily influenced by Cinderella, it 478 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: kind of like it felt. 479 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: Like felt a bit out of play. 480 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 4: It felt like kind of like they've run out of 481 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 4: juice and they're they're cheating and they're they're lazy, and 482 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: they're like, oh, let's just steal another storyline. I actually 483 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: love it. Okay, I'm loving the Cinderella storyline. And now 484 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: that I'm going back to season one, each season does 485 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: have a trope, a romance trope. 486 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: Like the first one is. 487 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Like the fake fake dating, fake dating. 488 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: Season two Enemies to Love Us. 489 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: Yes, season three is Friends to Love Us and now 490 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: we've got a Cinderella. 491 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 492 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: So there is like kind of like a trope kind 493 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: of thing in every season. 494 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: Other things I want to bring up is the soundtrack. 495 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: How do we think of the songs? 496 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Love it? 497 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: So far? 498 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: We've had Paramore, we've had Olivia Rodrigo. 499 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I had in chance of the Olivia Rodrigo orchestral score. 500 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: I'm not agree, to be honest. I like the Olivia 501 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Rodrigo song. 502 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: I don't think it translated super well with the orchestral score. 503 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: No, I agree. 504 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: I think it was a fun choice for what they 505 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 4: were doing, because what they were doing is a bad idea, right, Yeah, 506 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: but it didn't a lot. 507 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: It was it was like during the sex like farewell. 508 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was making me like stress, I don't want 509 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: to stimulate it. 510 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: Yeah maybe that was the point. 511 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, to wrap this one up, though, what did 512 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: we all think of? 513 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: Be my Mistress pissed me off. 514 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: But it means that there's a redemption arc, so I'm excited. 515 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Be my Mistress is giving. I'm not really ready 516 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: for a relationship, but I really enjoy getting to know you. Yeah, 517 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: and as our single girl on the couch, what do 518 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: you mean? 519 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: No, it's so true though, it is, which actually maybe 520 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: that's why I love it, because I'm like, it's so real. 521 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: It's so real. People don't want to commit. 522 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: It's like what you want me for every other part 523 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: of being a girlfriend except for actually being your girlfriend. 524 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah fucked, but I'll do it because people pleaser and 525 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: I like the attention. 526 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on now, my what's the tea? 527 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: MC beauty is pushing back on soul dejian eio lawsuit 528 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: your joke? 529 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 530 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: So I feel like every girl that is always like 531 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: how do they not get sued? 532 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: Is sat. 533 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: Every time I see them in the stores, I'm like, 534 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 535 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, how yeah? 536 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Tell us and there are quite a few different facets 537 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: of the lawsuit that they're pushing back against, which I 538 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: think will give us an idea of how they get 539 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: away with it and how they. 540 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: Haven't been sued in the past. So how we got here? 541 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Let's give a little bit of background info. 542 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: So all of this. 543 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Information is alleged and not affact law We're not. 544 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: Layalizers this we're fine. 545 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll put links in the show notes as 546 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: well to where we saw some of this information alleged and. 547 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: Reported, So if you want to do some more deep diving. 548 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're not lawyers. This is just what we've 549 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: seen the internet so far. Just tea it is. So, yeah, 550 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: how we got here? 551 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: Sol Degenero first Suit and co Beauty. In November twenty 552 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty four, they were alleging that the brand copied the packaging, 553 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: color schemes, and branding of its shirosa Body missed range. 554 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: When you also put the advertisements next to each other, 555 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the similarities are pretty wild. Yeah, So in an amended 556 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: complaint that was fooled on November twenty twenty five, so 557 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: that's almost a year later. Soldi Geneio went further claiming 558 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: that MC beauty ran a coordinated influencer and review strategy, 559 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: including comparative advertising, which was designed to trade on Soldigenio's goodwill, 560 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: mislead customers, and violate trademark law as well as FTC 561 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: endorsement guidelines. Fast forward to MC Beauty's defense and what 562 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: they're challenging in the lawsuit. 563 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: So the first thing was duke culture. 564 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: So MCO Beauty says that the company says that its 565 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: business model does openly draw inspiration from trends which are 566 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: popularized by higher price brands, and that this approach is 567 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: both common and legal. It points to the rise of 568 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: dupe culture, which it says is widely recognized and fueled 569 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: by social media influencers and rail content, and is embraced 570 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: by consumers who are looking for more affordable alternatives. And 571 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: then to back that up, MC beauty cited a twenty 572 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty three Business inside a survey which showed that seventy 573 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: one percent of gen Z and sixty seven percent of 574 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: millennials regularly buy dupes of more expensive beauty products. So, 575 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: according to MCO Beauty, they're saying that the trend reflects 576 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: ordinary competition and isn't consumer deception. 577 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, except that we're buying juops that aren't marketed as 578 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: being exact copies. Yeah, they're ones that we've figured out 579 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: on our own. We're like, oh, I love this slipliner. 580 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: It's almost a dupe for this slip liner, but it's 581 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: not because it's packaged identically the same. 582 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 583 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: That's where I feel like they're kind of crossing a line, 584 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: like Charlotte Tilbury flawless filter that the bottle is the same. 585 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even down to the fonts. 586 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: You they are also coming out with road dupe, Oh 587 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: my god, and like even the names and. 588 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: With thesaurus and just like right clicked and found it 589 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: like a different name, so it like it's flawless. 590 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: So then they I don't know what the MC beauty 591 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: want is. Yeah, it's too similar. 592 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: I think there's also like a valid, you know, argument 593 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: from people that if they can make it for this 594 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: much money, why am I paying so much money more 595 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: for the high end brand? 596 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: Right? 597 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? But I think what maybe people forget to put 598 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: it into that equation is that it costs less to 599 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: dupe a product because you don't have to spend years 600 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: and years ideating on formulas and trend forecasts and execution 601 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: you don't then have to pay a graphic designer, You 602 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: don't have to create a team for ideation. 603 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: You also then. 604 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Don't have to pay for marketing because the marketing does 605 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: itself for you. So speaking of the design that was 606 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: part of the lawsuit as well. In regards to that, 607 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: MC beauty addressed the claims by arguing that the design 608 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: elements at issue, including the bottle shape and the fonts, 609 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: are generic, functionable, and not protectable. It emphasizes that the 610 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: trade dress is unregistered and says Sole Degenera failed to 611 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: adequately a legend, non functionality or secondary meaning. 612 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: So that might be true. I guess maybe they didn't 613 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: protect the packaging. Maybe it is fair game. 614 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 615 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: But then I guess, like on your point before, it's like, 616 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 4: but maybe these other brands are getting out of our 617 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: reach price wise, and so maybe it's like also making 618 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: a comment on making makeup more accessible, why are they 619 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: so expensive, like if they can be made cheaper. Like, 620 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 4: I agree with you that there was years of ideation. 621 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: There's so much more money and time invested in creating 622 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: a product. But there are some products that I see and. 623 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's actually crazy it's wild. 624 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 4: It's something that I wear every day. I am not 625 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: reaching for a two hundred bottle of foundation. 626 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Cod thing is there are accessible and affordable products 627 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: that don't copy, that don't copy, Okay, Like that isn't 628 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: the only way to provide an alternative. It's like an 629 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: affordable alternative. But interestingly as well, MC beauty argues that 630 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Sole Digenero hasn't been hurt by the Jews financially, and 631 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: MC beauty actually points to Sole Dijenio's own public statements 632 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: about its success, including more than four hundred and fifty 633 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: million dollars in revenue in six months and a nineteen 634 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: percent year over year increase in US sales. So it's 635 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: basically pulling up sold Ejoneier's numbers and being like, did 636 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: it really hurt you that bad? 637 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Like you've had a pretty good year. 638 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: I wonder if, like, yeah, I thought this is really interesting. 639 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: So I wonder if it's like, oh, no, you're not, 640 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: we're not stealing customers from you because people want the 641 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: real thing. Now, maybe you are actually helping you out 642 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: because it's like I didn't get the jupe, I have 643 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: the real thing. 644 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the results of this lawsuit will be 645 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: really interesting. I will definitely set the tone for like 646 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: jupe culture as a whole. Yeah, because I think for 647 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: like both ends, I see people saying, you know, we 648 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: can't afford these ridiculously expensive makeup products, and that's too much. 649 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: And I also see the other side around the ethics 650 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: of like make affordable options, but you don't need to 651 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: rip off brands that have worked hard to create their product. Yeah. 652 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: And then I was going to say as well on 653 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: the false advertising claims as well, because they've worked with 654 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: influencers or just content creators even you know, individually have 655 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: created content around the dupes and comparing the two products. 656 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: And some people have said, like they smell exactly the 657 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: same and pointed out that they're. 658 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: The exact same product. 659 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: But MC Beauty's argument is, we never said that. 660 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 2: That was somebody else. 661 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: If m CO losers, what's going to happen to the 662 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: whole brand? They'll have to read that. 663 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: I think people will still they would just have to 664 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: change I would assume no lawyer, they would just have 665 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: to change that miss But I think it would probably 666 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: be the catalyst for a lot of brands that have 667 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: been duped to come out of the woodwork and throw 668 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: their hat in the ring. I think there'd be a 669 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: lot of time spending. Court room lois a load of money. 670 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: Do we know when, like we'll have the next installment? Yeah, 671 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 672 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have to keep everyone updated the next 673 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: what's to tea? I know? 674 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: Well that's a wrap. 675 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: Exciting and I want everyone else to comment as well, 676 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: their thoughts and their tea from the week in the 677 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: comments below. 678 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us in your earhels, 679 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: and thank you Maddie for joining us for tea time. 680 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm quenched. 681 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for having us in your ear holes. 682 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: We absolutely love to be here and we'll catch you 683 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. 684 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: Bye checks, bye bye