WEBVTT - IS IT EVEN OFFICIAL, UNTIL IT'S **HARD LAUNCH** OFFICIAL? 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.720 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.040 my kissing style. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.680 We have a boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.840 He's in a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching number. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.000 I love being love, I love love. On today's episode 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.119 of Where's Your Head At, we are talking about soft 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.239 launching and hard launching relationships. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.759 It's a new Instagram relationship trend and something you'll no 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.160 doubt have to face when your relationship starts to get serious. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.840 Stay tuned to hear some tips on how to soft 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.320 launch a relationship and the best time to hard launch. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.800 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:48.200 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.199 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:59.160 intimate details, advice, and much more. All Right, and it's 0:00:59.160 --> 0:00:59.960 good to be back in the stud. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.480 Hey Ma, how are you? 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.679 I'm good? I'm good. How are things with Michael going? 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:07.560 Do you know what? 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.520 It's so weird We haven't done an episode updating people 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.280 in our lives for so long because we've had some 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.240 amazing guests on the show, so it's. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.560 Weird to be back talking about ourselves again. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.040 I don't find it that difficult. I know, you don't 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.080 second nature to me. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.320 Yeah, I mean, look things with Michael, we're cruising, everything's 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.479 going really well. We're very much in love, obsessed. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:30.640 With each other. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.240 Honeymoon stage still going strong. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.520 Yeah, we're still in that honeymoon phase, which I'm loving. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.759 I feel like every day. I actually, it's so weird 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.240 that you say that, because I was actually scared that 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.360 the honeymoon phase is going to end. I was like, 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.600 I kept looking at the dates being like, Okay, we've 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.800 got an extra month now, like is it going to 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:49.400 end soon? 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.040 Like when's that going to happen? 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.960 But I feel like the more time we spend with 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.560 each other, like I like him even more and he 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.040 says that about me, So I feel like that's a 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.559 good thing, right, Like we're tracking. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.000 Well, you just stay obsessed with each other the whole time. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:03.680 Let's hope that lasts forever. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.480 There's no reason for it not to. I guess, yeah, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:06.680 I know. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.280 Why is it that we think that the honeymoon phase 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.000 has to end? Like who spun that lie to us? 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.520 I don't know, But let's prove them wrong and keep 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.360 your honeymoon stage going for ages. I mean, you survived Thailand, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.560 as we spoke about last week, so yeah, who knows 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:21.840 what else you can come overcome? 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:23.440 I know well, And that's the thing. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.160 I feel like, when you are in a relationship and 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.079 then you go through like hard times with someone, it's 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.440 like a make or break. You're either gonna just be 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.000 like this is not for me and when shit hits 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.120 the fan we don't work well together, or it's going 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.079 to make you stronger. And I'm really happy that it's 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:41.760 made us stronger. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.080 I'm happy as well. You guys are que, You're going solid. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.120 I love hanging around you guys, and I love to 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:46.480 see it. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.080 We've heard that one. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.440 Okay, So there's a lot that's happened in your life 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.520 since we've kind of done a catch up. So I 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.720 have a million and one questions to ask you because 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.520 hot seat, yeah, heart seat for sure, Because I feel 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.480 like everyone needs to be fully caught up on your life. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.600 I mean, if you follow Matt on Instagram, we've seen 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.600 that Matt has hard launched Magical Date girl, who we 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.120 now know. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.480 As her name is Jen, Yeah, Genevieve, I call her Jen. Yeah, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.960 so she will no long ago as magical date girl. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.079 Okay, so we're abolishing Magical day call her Jen now. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.920 She was actually quite sad when I told her that. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.560 She was like an end of an era, and I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.519 was like, you'll always be my magical date girl. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.720 So the last time people heard you told people you 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:33.760 were exclusive. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.720 What has happened since then? 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.000 Okay, so I may as well start from the start. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.240 So last time I spoke to you, guys were exclusive. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.600 So I asked her to be exclusive very early on. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.360 It was like, how early on? 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.040 Maybe two weeks in I think. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:51.880 I think it was a week. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.240 It was a week, It was a week, Yeah, I 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.839 think it was a week. And I I just thought 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.080 to myself, you know what, I'm not talking to the 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.000 other girls. I've burnt every girl I was talking to before. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.080 Do you want it to lockery? 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.040 Like yeah, I was like, I'm being I'm being exclusive, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.600 so I may as well make it exclusive. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.880 So let's make sure she's not fucking yeah exactly. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.600 Yeah, so let's just both be exclusive. And she was 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.120 keen to be exclusive. So that was yeah, I think 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:18.480 a week. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.479 I remember when you told me that, and I was 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.440 like wow, because I knew how keen that was from 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.200 like actually, before you went on the first day with her, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.560 you were like, Anna, this girl is like my cup 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.160 of tea. She's my flavor, she's my type. Like and 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.279 you guys had obviously spoken for like sixty years on 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.400 and off, and. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.000 Like, yeah, I remember calling you on the first night 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.919 she came around. I went into my bedroom and I 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.400 called you and I told you how keen I was 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.279 on her. And You're like, well, don't do anything to 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:46.920 fuck this up. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.359 Now, you best be on your best behavior, And I 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.320 definitely was. So Actually, I'm actually just like thinking back 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.200 to that time. I don't want anyone to miss any 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.440 of the important facts. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:00.120 Didn't you? 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.000 You invite her to family dinner within a week of 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:03.520 knowing her. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.680 Oh, sorry to throw you under there. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.440 Yeah, So I remember how we hung out on the 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.200 first date, then hung out that night, and then hung 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.719 out the whole next day. I had my tradition, we 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.919 have Sunday night dinner with my family, we watch a movie. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.080 And I was at her house and I was like, well, look, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.400 I've got a family dinner. I don't want to leave you. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.279 Would you like to come with me? And we're like 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.320 I'm denied for ages and like, no, no, no, it's 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.400 it's too early. It's been like not even forty eight hours. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.800 So because she nearly came, did. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.760 She say it was too early or did you? 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.640 Oh? I'm pretty sure she did. I think she was 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:38.880 a rational calm here. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.120 I was thinking that because I feel like you were 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:41.640 like all in. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.280 Yeah. I was like calm, no, calm, come, but yeah, 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.359 she said no, we should probably wait at least another 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.080 week before that happens. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.039 We've been exclusive after week one. What's happening in week two? 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:52.400 Yeah? 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.479 Okay, so you guys were exclusive. Everything was going well. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:56.760 Was there any hiccups? 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.400 I mean just normal like stuff when you're with someone 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.760 and you don't understand their boundaries and all that sort 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.560 of stuff. But nothing we didn't work through, Like just 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.080 stuff that, like, you know me, my mouth gets me 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.760 in trouble. I say dumb stuff, just that. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.000 And so she pulled you up on those She pulled 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:14.280 me up. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.880 On those things, and like I say to her, look, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.360 all you gotta do is call me out, and I learned. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.080 I'm a sort of person that learns, and I won't 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:21.560 do it again. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.200 Okay, so when did you actually make it official. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.400 All right, So I asked Jen to be my girlfriend 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:33.160 maybe two months in, two months into hanging. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.200 Out, Yeah, perfect time that. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.480 Yeah, Well it's funny you say that because we went 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.040 on a date on a picnic and we were sitting 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.640 in this park. It was really romantic. We'd ordered some vietnammes. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.599 We were sitting there eating that and we're just laying 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.760 there like the sun was setting or laying having this 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.799 really romantic time like yeah, hugging and kissing, not caring 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:53.920 who was around. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.120 Typical Matt love some pdam Yeah. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.560 And then I was like thinking to myself, I was like, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.719 I'm going to her, I'm going to ask her. And 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.400 then every time I went to ask her, I just 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.720 got into my own fucking head and I just like 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.440 cowered out and I just was like I just like 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.160 just didn't know what to do. And I was like 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.880 and then I'd ask some random question that had nothing 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.360 to do with anything, and when she's just like what, yeah, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.560 she could tell I think, and I think that she 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.600 was like ready for it. So then we left the 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.320 park and then I remember we went on a double 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.520 date with my two roommates and his girlfriend and we 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.360 were walking behind the girls talking and I overheard her 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.880 say to mal I really thought he was going to 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.760 ask me out on the weekend to be his girlfriend. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.120 I don't think he's ever going to do it now 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.200 because that was the perfect time or something like that, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.120 and I was like, fuck, I definitely fucked that up. Yeah, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.520 I was like, that was the perfect time. So the 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.320 next week, we went on this like long walk and 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.360 we're walking along this river and I wanted to do it, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.400 and I was in my head. I was like, all right, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.440 I'm not leaving today without doing it. So I kept 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.600 taking her like off trail because there's people on the trail. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.000 So we kept walking along this muddy footpath like along 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.560 the river, and it was just so we were like 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.600 slipping over. I even did the old like oh, I've 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.040 hurt my ankle, slowed down, like we need to stop here, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.000 I need a rest. And then I kept hugging her 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.920 and she kept being like looking at me, and I 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.400 kept like getting in my own head and I kept 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.760 not saying anything. And then she's like to me, why 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.600 are you acting so weird? And I was like, oh, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.680 no reason, no reason. So then we left the first place, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.280 and I was like, damn it, I fuck, I should 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.640 have done it there, damn it. So then I was 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.080 like all right, So I was like, let's get something 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.760 to eat, and then pretty much recreated a picnic scenario again. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.679 I was like, well, definitely could have worked last week, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.480 so it's going to work now. We went to Forkner Park, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:42.720 which I found funny because I'd have so much terrible 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.920 times at that park with my as with you, just 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.400 so much, just just disgusting times that then when I 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:50.720 was with her, I was like, all right, I'm going 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.360 to make a happy memory here. Then all those toxic 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.760 ones that I had, So we like sat down, we 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.800 were like eight our grilled, We're just chatting. And then 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.640 I was like laying there again and we're watching some 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.640 people play some sport. And then I just said to her, yeah, 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.760 do you want to be my girlfriend? And then she 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.720 just had to kiss kissing me and pretty much said. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.000 Yes, Ah, that's such a cute story. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.079 Yeah, And then I was so happy. I was over 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.440 the moon. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:18.319 You were happy. Yeah, I've got a girlfriend. I was like, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.959 how on earth are we both in relationship? 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.040 I totally defeated the purpose of this, but here we are. 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.200 You know what, I really want to talk to you 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.520 about you getting inside your head and that anxiety because 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.280 I guess for me, like I've never had to put 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.960 myself out there and like ask a guy to be 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.080 my boyfriend, like I always wait for them. And it's 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.240 interesting to hear from a male perspective, like you really 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.760 can get in your head and it really can stress 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.240 you out. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.720 It's almost like you know she's going to say yes. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.280 But I was running through every scenario and I was 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.400 just like in my own head, I was like, she's 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.840 going to say no, she gonna say it's too soon, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.240 or she's going to say this. When I really knew 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.760 that she was going to say yes. I don't know 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.760 why I was making myself think that and worrying. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.280 Yeah, I mean, anxiety gets the better of all of us. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.480 But like in relationships, it is like it's kind of 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.440 a big deal because like, yeah, if she doesn't say yes, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.360 like are you still seeing each other? 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.680 Like is this over? And now I don't want it 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:16.880 to be? 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.520 Yeah, what happens now? And then she says no, but 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.040 let's keep hanging out for a bit. Isn't it just 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.240 gonna be fucking awkward? 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:24.319 Do you don't like me? 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:29.040 Yeah? You rejected me, so, Yeah, I did get very anxious. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.320 Yeah. Have you ever felt anxious like that before? Or 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.600 do you think it's because you care about her so much? 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.640 I think it's because I care about her so much. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.880 I mean asking out my ex. Yeah. I didn't get 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.640 anxious at all. It was pretty much in an argument. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.280 Did you did you ask her out? Or did your 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.040 ex like give you an ultimatus? 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.079 She gave me an ultimator. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:51.120 Yeah I didn't. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.679 I thought that, and my dumb ass was like, all right, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.120 then we'll just we'll date then I get my girlfriend. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:05.320 So, Matt, you care a lot about Jen. Have you 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:06.920 told her that you love her yet? 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:08.400 Yes? 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:08.720 I have. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.480 I've told her I love her. She It was in 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.440 Byron on that trip we went two together. Yeah, we 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.520 went for a walk to the lighthouse and there was. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.200 This like clinic light. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.600 Cliche. There was like no but there was like this 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.640 platform that has no railing and you climb onto it 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.839 and you overlook like the beach and the Whitehouse is 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.240 on your left. And we were sitting there. I kept 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.440 cuddling her and like kissing her and looking at her, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.000 and then she looked at me, she goes, are you 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.840 acting weird again? And I was like, yes I am, Yes, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.120 I am. And then she goes why and I'm like, well, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.679 I want to tell you that I love you. And 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.360 then we just sat there and just made out. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:50.679 Did she say it back? 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.640 No, she didn't say it back. She didn't want it 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.400 to be forced. So did she didn't want to say 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:55.920 it back to me? 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:56.679 Yeah? 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.280 You told me that she has a history of not 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.120 saying I love you back to people like ex boyfriends. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.880 Yeah, so to her saying I love you, I think 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.520 is a big deal to me. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.280 I think to everyone it's a big deal, it is 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:10.800 a big deal. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.360 But to me, if I feel that and I'm more 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.240 open with my emotions emotional, I'm willing to more put 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.640 myself out there to be hurt as I feel like 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.480 she's not. I feel like she wants to know guaranteed 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.920 one hundred percent that she's not going to get hurt. Yeah, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.880 and that this is something solid. Yeah. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.360 So maybe she has a few walls up. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.400 Yeah, she definitely does have a few ways up. I 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.280 know she's been hurt in the past. Yeah, whereas a vie, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.320 but I I'm willing to get hurt again. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:36.800 Yeah. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.440 No, does that hurt you a little bit? That she 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:40.320 hasn't set it back. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.640 Yes and no, because I think to myself, well, actions 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.839 speak louder than words, and I just reassure myself that 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.840 like her actions and the way she acts around me 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.400 and what she does, is someone that does love someone. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.920 And I know that you nearly said it one night. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.840 She pretty much said it when we were drunk, but 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.000 then she said, I don't want to say it when 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.400 I'm drunk. Yeh want to special? 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:02.640 I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people listening 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.000 right now who have been in a similar situation and 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.080 who like, it's good to hear that you know, you're 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.719 also in a situation like this. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.600 Yeah, well, she said the first her first boyfriend took 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.400 her over six months to say it, and he'd already 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:17.200 said it before then. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:18.640 How did he feel about that? 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.319 I do know? 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.520 Sorry, probably not asking about. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.480 How long have you guys been together? 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.920 Now we've been together officially maybe three months, okay, I said. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.600 It a month in okay, so you might have an 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.599 extra three months to wait until you hear yeah, I 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:36.320 love you back. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.520 Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, it does hurt, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.040 but I'm not putting pressure on her. I don't want 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.760 to force her to say anything. It will come at 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.760 its own time, and it would be so much sweeter 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:46.480 when I hear it. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.280 We like, praise the Lord, I skim me it. Do 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.120 you know What's weird though, Like I've never really spoke 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:54.280 about this to you ever. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.440 I don't think, but like the first time saying I 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.400 love you to someone is kind of awkward, Like you 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.720 might feel it, but to actually say it for the 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.480 first time is kind of uncomfortable. Like I remember the 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.920 first time Michael and I said it, like he said 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.319 it to me, you were drunk, when we were like 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.719 a bit tipsy and it was like sunset and then 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.679 I set it back and I was like oh. But 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.600 then after we said it once, then I was like, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.160 when do we say it next? Like when's the next 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.600 time to say it? When's a good time to say it? 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.400 Is it awkward if I say now? And I remember 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.440 he just all of a sudden started saying it all 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.960 the time, and I think he said it like that day, 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.840 like maybe like fifteen times. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.480 Like once he said it, he was just like go yeah. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.440 And I think because he did that, it made it 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.880 really normal. So now, like honestly, I think the next 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.760 day like it wasn't awkward, but that day, like the 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.320 next time he said it, I was like, oh, he 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:49.240 said it again. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:50.240 Said it again? 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.960 Why do you say that? Because I've almost stopped saying 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.840 it now because I haven't heard it back. So I'll 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.200 say stuff like that or you or I appreciate you. Yeah, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.120 I'll say I'm in love with you when like it's 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.040 a real heated moment. But if it's just norm when 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.280 I feel like I want to say it because I 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:05.600 say it a lot, you know what I'm like, I 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.600 grew up in a house, or you just say it 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.960 to you like I love you and I love you 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.000 like i'll see you love you by Yeah. I mean 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.920 so to me, it's just second nature. I don't think 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.480 in her family it was as well. I mean even 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.440 my sister's boyfriend has pulled Lara off on it like 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.680 that we say it all the time to each other, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:22.520 so he's not. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.760 Was not used to it, used to it. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.800 Yeah, So I've refrained a bit from saying it. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.840 Yeah that's kind of sad though as well. But like 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.440 I totally understand where you're coming from because I feel 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.880 like it's kind of like, is she going to say 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.120 it back this time? And I guess like maybe when 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.920 you say it and you don't hear it back then, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.480 it kind of like hurts her. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:42.640 Or when I got in my own head and it 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.600 was like two perfect times I thought she was going 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.800 to say it. We were on these perfect moments and 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.720 I was like, all right, well this is She like 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.320 pretty much encouraged the scenario to happen, and I was like, oh, okay, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.120 maybe this is it. And then we left and I 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.080 was like, oh, okay, maybe next time. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.760 Okay, So you told her you loved her in Barron 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.760 Bay at the light how it was a really romantic moment, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.520 and then in Byron Bay you hard launched this shit 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:08.960 out of your girlfriend. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.280 And we're gonna talk about self launching and hard launching. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:19.760 Next, Okay, Mat, let's talk about seft launching and hard 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.480 launching our relationships. We both did it. We started soft, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.960 we went hard. They're two different things. I've only recently 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.080 learned about these terminologies. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.680 Like I didn't know this was a thing. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.320 It's kind of like a process, like soft launching and 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.760 hard launching is like a marketing technique. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.760 It really is. Gen Z has kind of like made 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.600 it into how they're gonna. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.480 Like give sprinkles of information and kind of tease their 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.800 Instagram audiences or TikTok audiences that they have a boyfriend, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:52.720 girlfriend or whatever. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.720 Yeah, so a lot of people start off with a 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.480