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Speaker 1: This here's a Fitzy podcast. Welcome to special podcast. Guys.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk thirty six months in the social

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Speaker 1: media ban great news. K Richie wanted to give you

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Speaker 1: a bit of an update because there's been some fantastic

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Speaker 1: encouragement in recent times of other countries that have decided

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Speaker 1: to look at what Australia has done in changing the

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Speaker 1: laws around social media and enforcing kids to stay off

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Speaker 1: it and put the pressure on the big tech companies

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Speaker 1: for the kids to stay off it until they're the

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Speaker 1: age of sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I've been overly impressed and I'm not easily impressed, I

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Speaker 2: have to say. But when you see the other countries

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Speaker 2: reference Australia, we talk about following a lead or you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean well done.

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Speaker 1: I think the great thing is too. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the list right now, you've got France,

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Speaker 1: You've got Spain, India, Greece, Britain, Denmark, China, Malaysia and

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Speaker 1: obviously our team here setting the goal in Australia and

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Speaker 1: it was very brave of the Commonwealth to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think the great thing is too that like at

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Speaker 1: the un and like when we made the announcement at

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Speaker 1: thirty six months, they said the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: will be watching, So it's as if they were saying,

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Speaker 1: we'd love to do this, but we want to see

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Speaker 1: how you guys go first. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: Australia was so brave, So from a thirty six months

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Speaker 1: point of view, and anybody who's not across it is

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Speaker 1: we led a campaign to make this change and we

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Speaker 1: worked closely with the government to make sure that it

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Speaker 1: was possible and enforced.

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Speaker 2: And not only government but families and family parents, absolute children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, we did. We visited a lot of

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Speaker 1: schools to gain understanding and finally the law was passed.

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Speaker 1: But what's been more encouraging of recent times is behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, the conversations we've been having. We have most

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Speaker 1: recently met with members of the US Parliament, which was fantastic,

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Speaker 1: a team that flew out here on a research mission.

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Speaker 1: Next week we are speaking with some political leaders and

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Speaker 1: politicians from the UK, from the British Parliament. We're chatting

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Speaker 1: and filming with a team from Canada next week also,

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Speaker 1: who want to understand how it happened and how did

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Speaker 1: we do it, How did Australia get to this point,

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Speaker 1: what was the blueprint to make this.

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Speaker 2: Happen, and how do we do it too, and how

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Speaker 2: do we do it?

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Speaker 1: And how are we going with it? I think is

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Speaker 1: another really good question. What's most encouraging, though, is what

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Speaker 1: has broken today out of the US, because we know

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Speaker 1: state by state they were looking at doing this. But

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Speaker 1: Lara Trump, Donald Trump's daughter in law, has done an

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Speaker 1: interview with Miranda Devine from The New York Post and

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Speaker 1: had this to say.

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Speaker 3: I see things like what has happened in Australia and

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Speaker 3: what has happened in France, where you have a regulatory

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Speaker 3: body saying we're going to wait until these kids are

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Speaker 3: at least a little bit older fifteen sixteen years old,

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Speaker 3: in order to at least process a little more what

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Speaker 3: they're doing in the social media space before they get online.

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to your father in law about that?

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Speaker 3: I actually have, and when I talk to him about

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Speaker 3: the studies that I've read and the way that a

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Speaker 3: kid looks at a screen and they're dopamine and they're

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Speaker 3: oxytocin and all these feel good chemicals are firing, and

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Speaker 3: then you take the screen away and those all go away. Well,

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Speaker 3: how are they ever going to get back to that

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Speaker 3: in just regular life without a screen, they almost don't

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Speaker 3: and it's actually frightening.

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Speaker 1: She nawed it. What's interesting, though, is you see footage

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Speaker 1: and photos of Donald Trump sitting around with the heads

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Speaker 1: of tech in the White House, lots of dinner, Zuckerberg,

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Speaker 1: all the big guys. Evan Spiegel's there. He's friends with

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Speaker 1: all of them, as you know. But isn't it amazing

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Speaker 1: the minute someone breaks it down to him, who's close

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Speaker 1: to him and can put a personal touch on it,

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Speaker 1: about what she's read and the damage it's doing to

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Speaker 1: our kids, maybe in a crazy world he will take notice.

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Speaker 1: So a great development and a bit of an update

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Speaker 1: for you today. This is the Fitsy with friend Kate

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