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Speaker 1: Hello there.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode of Separate Bathrooms contains discussions of suicide and

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Speaker 2: mental ill health. If this raises any issues for you,

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Speaker 2: support is available through the following services. Call Lifeline on

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Speaker 2: thirteen eleven fourteen or visit lifeline dot org dot AU.

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Speaker 3: Call Beyond Blue on thirteen hundred two two four six

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Speaker 3: three six, or visit beyond blue dot org dot au

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Speaker 3: forward slash forums.

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Speaker 4: We experienced the death of another family friend just a

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Speaker 4: couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Ago, and it's just like, why is this still happening.

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Speaker 4: We lose more young people to suicide than by any

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Speaker 4: other cause in our country.

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Speaker 3: It's not okay, Hello, and welcome to Separate Bathrooms. We

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Speaker 3: would like to acknowledge the Gadigel people of the Urination,

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Speaker 3: the traditional custodiums of this land, and pay our respects

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Speaker 3: to the elders, both past and present. My name's Ali Daddo.

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Speaker 1: I'm cam Dado.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm really well good actually, thank you for asking.

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Speaker 3: Sure. Gosh, well, we have an amazing couple. I know,

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Speaker 3: we always have amazing couple.

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Speaker 5: We do.

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Speaker 3: We have a really special couple coming in today and

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Speaker 3: they're going to be talking about a subject that is very,

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Speaker 3: very close to my heart. I became an ambassador to

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Speaker 3: a charity called Rais, which serves an industry leading youth

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Speaker 3: mentoring charity dedicated to providing support for teenagers in high

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Speaker 3: schools right across Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're all.

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Speaker 2: Over the place bus shelters video for Rais dot org

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Speaker 2: dot au. I'm getting messages from people all around the

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Speaker 2: country talking about your involvement with I.

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Speaker 3: Did a letter to my mentor because Raise supports kids

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Speaker 3: by supplying them with a mentor for six months, and

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Speaker 3: they asked me, can you talk about your mentor? And

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Speaker 3: I got to speak about my grandfather and write a

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Speaker 3: letter as if I was writing a letter to him,

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Speaker 3: and that was or. I could barely get through that letter.

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Speaker 3: I did actually.

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Speaker 1: Cry during it as you're reading it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because of how meaningful he is to me. As

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Speaker 3: mentors are, you know, you can remember that one person

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Speaker 3: from as far back as memory goes, people can go,

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Speaker 3: I remember when she did this, that teacher, that footy coach,

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Speaker 3: the librarian, the neighbor next door. There's always pretty much

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Speaker 3: always a moment in a child's life that I can remember,

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Speaker 3: that moment of kindness or that moment of support or Wisdom.

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Speaker 2: Founders Vicky and Leon Condon are our guests today. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Vicky has a background in counseling and knowledge of growing research.

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Speaker 2: In the power of mentoring, she made a plan to

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Speaker 2: support young people by providing them with a caring, trusted,

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Speaker 2: independent mentor not a parent, not a family member, someone

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Speaker 2: who shows up on a regular basis, just for them.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And Leon, Vicki's husband, is look he's an

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Speaker 3: experienced executive with a solid track record of business achievement

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Speaker 3: in blue chip corporate and successful startups. And Leon also

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Speaker 3: and very proudly the chairman of Rays. He brings such

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Speaker 3: a wealth of expertise to raise and he's a key

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Speaker 3: partner in the success of the organization since its inception.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, we're going to find out more about rais.

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Speaker 2: Vicky and Leon are doing incredible work and it all

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Speaker 2: started in their home office raising money through movie nights

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Speaker 2: if you can believe, and they've been able to support

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Speaker 2: more than thirteen five hundred people through their programs. Vicky

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Speaker 2: was awarded an Order of Australia, thoroughly deserved. Indeed, they

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Speaker 2: are also married and happily. Let's discuss that they were

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Speaker 2: so married and happily married. Let's discover more about Rais

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Speaker 2: dot Org dot Au and Vicki and Leon, Vicky and

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Speaker 2: Leon Condon. Welcome to separate bathrooms. We will talk about

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Speaker 2: Rays now was obviously involved intimately with you.

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Speaker 1: Guys. We are a.

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Speaker 2: Relationship podcast, so you have to tell us your love story.

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Speaker 3: Can we remember? Do you remember how you met?

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Speaker 1: How long ago? Was it not that long ago? Kids?

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Speaker 1: Come on, it was a.

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Speaker 3: Long time ago. I was nineteen.

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Speaker 5: There's two answers to this camp. I met Vick at

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Speaker 5: least a year earlier and fell in love.

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Speaker 3: And you don't remember that. Vicky, there's a story. We've

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Speaker 3: met at a floor.

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Speaker 4: We both worked for the same organization. So we worked

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Speaker 4: at Honeywell and I came over from Adlaida grew up

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Speaker 3: But he didn't come and talk to me, so.

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Speaker 6: He just stared at you.

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Speaker 3: We didn't actually speak.

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Speaker 5: She was wearing this purple sort of taff her with

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Speaker 1: Gave that away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So then we met when I actually moved over from

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Speaker 6: Seriously, that was my version.

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Speaker 1: He was stalking systems control systems.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so so you're at the same party and you

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Speaker 3: think that you were with her the whole night, and

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Speaker 3: I think he was stalking behind behind curtains. And did

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Speaker 3: you remember her for a whole year? Was she on

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Speaker 3: your mind a whole year?

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Speaker 5: Patient? Not normally one of my qualities.

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Speaker 3: And did you know that she was going to move to.

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Speaker 6: Orchestrated?

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Speaker 4: You orchestrated it.

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Speaker 1: You got a control system out.

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Speaker 4: And so I was a secretary and Leon was working

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Speaker 4: for the same guy, and so we ended up working

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Speaker 4: for the same department. Yeah, he'll tell you that we

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Speaker 4: met in the copy photocopy room the second.

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Speaker 2: Time, or were you photocoph sitting on the coffee machine?

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Speaker 3: Don't go there.

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Speaker 1: That's the sort of thing we did in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have exactly and we didn't have you know,

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Speaker 2: screens and things, so if we had to sit on

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Speaker 3: Did we did we have to do it?

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Speaker 1: Well, we didn't work in business. We didn't have access

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Speaker 1: still photocopy machine. But I did at school and that

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Speaker 3: At school with Yeah, boys school very much girls photo

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Speaker 3: copy there, genitals ens.

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Speaker 1: It was a sitting on it. It was a cheeky

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Speaker 3: Definite, and your mates and still get up to it.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'd still do it if there were a photo

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Speaker 1: That's too much.

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Speaker 3: Fun with me. So that the second meeting for you,

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Speaker 3: Leon almost the first of Vicky. How long till you

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Speaker 4: And oh it didn't take me long once I'd actually

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we got together pretty quickly and we were

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Speaker 4: together for about six years before we decided to get married.

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Speaker 4: And the proposal was very exciting and you just couldn't

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Speaker 1: Was the proposal? Leon? How did you orchestrate that?

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Speaker 6: Do you guys scuba on?

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Speaker 5: One time in band camp, I did one thing you

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Speaker 6: Probably forty five or more.

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Speaker 1: So you're excited.

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Speaker 1: Breathing going on, yes, so that.

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Speaker 5: So we're at just off burro And Bay, there's this

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Speaker 5: beautiful dive called Julian Rocks. We were down about sixty

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Speaker 5: master said, have you guys ever swim with the gray

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Speaker 5: nurses before? Vicky had a few explete ips but about.

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Speaker 1: Gray nurse being shark not hospital.

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Speaker 5: At about sixty feet and we came through a cave

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Speaker 3: I'm right sure.

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Speaker 4: I did give it away right from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, oh, I love that.

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Speaker 3: a pretty good proposal.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever heard one like that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, we've been.

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Speaker 2: We've been on mountains, we've been on bus sidings, we've been,

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Speaker 2: we've been all over the place, but we've never been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty special.

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Speaker 5: We took six years to come up with it, though.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have the ring with you to do or

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Speaker 3: I think we should talk about the ring.

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Speaker 1: You need to talk about the ring.

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Speaker 3: Now dropped the ring.

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Speaker 4: We didn't really have a ring. No, we didn't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got the best ring when we got Ali, our

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Speaker 4: third child. So we then quickly had children, so two.

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Speaker 3: Boys and a girl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and my real engagement ring. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: Had Ali, our daughter, Ali, your third child.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the ring that I went now I got Yeah,

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Speaker 2: One or two one you.

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Speaker 1: And your other One of your sons is Cameron.

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Speaker 4: Bove friend is Cameron, which is quite funny.

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Speaker 3: So they are Allie and Cam. You go look at

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Speaker 3: that destined one are the chances?

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Speaker 4: And then we've got Sam who's our middle son, and

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Speaker 4: Ben who's our eldest.

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Speaker 2: Are they involved in this amazing charity that you guys

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Speaker 2: have set up?

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Speaker 3: Ben and Ali try to avoid it.

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Speaker 5: Really don't think Ben's on strategy.

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Speaker 4: Ben is actually my best mentor, so he'll often around

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Speaker 4: the dinner table just say, you know, okay, mum, how

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Speaker 4: is your day? And he actually listens to my asked

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Back though to the beginning of raise. Can you talk

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Speaker 3: about what inspired you to start it?

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Speaker 4: At Honeywell, where we both worked, I moved from being

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Speaker 4: don't want to go back to corporate hours and I

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Speaker 5: They've just exposed so much more so we've just completed

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Speaker 4: Our key result areas are increased compared to the control group,

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Speaker 4: but early intervention and prevention is where we need to

446
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 4: be investing more because if we can teach these young

447
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 4: people right early on where to go for help, how

448
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: to build resilience, how to push through these challenges that

449
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: are inevitably going to come up, you know, how to

450
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: have a growth mindset, this isn't going to be like

451
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 4: this forever, and help them get through school and find

452
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: work and make sure that they have happy, healthy adulthood

453
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: like we've had thirteen and a half thousand young people

454
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Speaker 4: graduate from the program. And your question came about you know,

455
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: did we ever think it was going to get to

456
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: hear like? I didn't think so, And I think I

457
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: think our board at the beginning, at Lea's the chairman,

458
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: we're just thinking at the time of it, he's got

459
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: a nice pet project. You know, this will be fun

460
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 4: for her fifteen years later. It's really important work that

461
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: we're all doing together that's making a huge impact.

462
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 5: What's interesting, it's not only the mentees the young people.

463
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 5: What's interesting with the program is the mentors and the

464
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 5: benefit that they.

465
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Speaker 6: Get out of it.

466
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: Because corporate Australia or in our business life, what used

467
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 5: to be focused like schooling is focused on academics and

468
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 5: nap planning results. Increasingly people are recognizing what used to

469
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: be called soft skills are the power skills. You know,

470
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 5: listening and you know you guys talk about empathy, you know,

471
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 5: just to build those skills, those those EQ skills is

472
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 5: what a fulfilled, happy life's all about. And we're seeing

473
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 5: that with the mentors. They're reporting back to as well,

474
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 5: we got more out of it than we have.

475
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 4: Yes, we talk about that as a ripple effect. You

476
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: know that we're able to create across the country because yes,

477
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 4: on one hand, we're helping young people to survive adolescence.

478
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: But on the other hand, we're upskilling all of these

479
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: adults on how to ask the right question and listen

480
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: really effectively. And so those skills they can use with

481
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: other young people in their lives or you know, if

482
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: they're volunteering in the community or their own kids, or

483
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: in their workplaces.

484
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: Like Leone was talking about.

485
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Speaker 4: So lots of our mentors are university students who are

486
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 4: studying psychology or teaching and they come to us to

487
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 4: do placement hours so they can learn what it's like

488
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 4: to work one on one with a young person. So

489
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: there's lots of benefits for the mentors as well as

490
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Speaker 4: the mentees.

491
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Speaker 3: And it's been I mean, I know this has helped

492
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Speaker 3: my mental health and many people talk about this. You know,

493
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: if you're struggling, sometimes it actually really helps to help

494
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: other people and that, you know, and I think that

495
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: this being a mentor would be as you say, that

496
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Speaker 3: ripple effective. Like you see that the access and the

497
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: assistance that you're giving to this team, and I mean

498
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: that can only feel good for yourself. And you offer training.

499
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: This is something that anyone can just go and do.

500
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Speaker 3: And what does that training look like for someone who

501
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: wanted to be a mental Yeah, the.

502
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Speaker 4: Training's fantastic and we've developed it over the years, so

503
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: there's now eight modules that you can do online and

504
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 4: they're just self paced, so you do them at your

505
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: own time, your own leisure. The training is, you know,

506
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: industry leading.

507
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: It's fantastic.

508
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: At a cost? Do you pay for the training?

509
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 4: We gift it to those who volunteer with us. We

510
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 4: don't charge our volunteers. Having said that, we are setting

511
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: up a social enterprise because those skills are so valuable,

512
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: and you know, corporate partners are buying those training courses

513
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: from us as a social enterprise initiative so that we

514
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: can start generating our own fundraising because fundraising is tough.

515
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 5: As an The money side of thing has just been

516
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: crazy for us. After a corporate life that Vicki mentioned before,

517
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 5: I've been working with small enterprises, stuff ups and medium

518
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: sized businesses and there you spend all day trying you've

519
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 5: got a product or a service, and you spend all

520
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 5: money all day trying to drum up demand. Here it

521
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: rays is there's just unprecedented demand where Yeah, we're really

522
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 5: thrilled to have twenty four hundred kids in the program

523
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: this year. But it's you know, it's less than ten

524
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: percent of what we want to be doing because we

525
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: have that many schools coming to us and saying, hey,

526
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: can we have your program? All individual students coming to

527
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: us every week, multiple times a week around the kidsen table.

528
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 5: It's like, we've got another school that needs, you know,

529
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 5: needs a program with thirty or forty thousand dollars that

530
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 5: we don't have. How are we going to get that?

531
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Speaker 3: And you need more mentors as well, don't you we

532
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: need right?

533
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Our challenge is always, you know, enough mentors

534
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: and enough money, money, enough, and it'll always be kids,

535
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: that's always.

536
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: It's so great And that's how al you said so

537
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: beautifully about when you are feeling low, to actually step

538
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: away from your life, go help someone, use your skills

539
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: to assist someone else does raise your confidence. And in

540
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: this day where we're reading about job redundancies and jobs

541
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: changing and shifting and evolving, and we're change is hard

542
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: to deal with and we all have to deal with change.

543
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: That's just the common denominator of the human cycle. Things change,

544
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: and it seems at the moment that we are in

545
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: a state of great change, but subtle change as well.

546
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: That sneaks up on you.

547
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: You're talking about your hair color.

548
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, that wasn't so subtle that it happened to

549
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: the GFC. Can you remember that, honey? I love the

550
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: way you segued into my silver hair color.

551
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Said to me the other day, she said, there was if.

552
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Someone put up a comparison photograph of me at twenty

553
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: six and another one of me at fifty two or whatever, and.

554
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: Now goes you look better? Now, why she goes, because

555
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: your hair's uniform. It's all gray, it's not half gray.

556
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: Well, he's got the hearth breaking going now you've been.

557
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've got more way more pepper than you do.

558
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: So whereas I'm pretty salty, but as I was, mind

559
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: it's okay nothing.

560
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: I've done it to you a lot. It's so valuable.

561
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: And I want to ask you about your checks and

562
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: balances with mentors because this exposure in the news and

563
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: we're hearing it all the time now through church and

564
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: through this and trust family staff of just mentors abusing

565
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: their privilege right or their power perceived power, especially over

566
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: over vulnerable kids. Can you just talk a bit about

567
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: how you vet the mentors, and I think it's important.

568
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: It's a really rigid process that we've developed over the

569
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: time that we've been running. We have a very comprehensive

570
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: youth safety framework that our volunteers have to go through

571
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: the training. As much as it's great and that you're

572
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: developing skills, it's also us checking you out. What we

573
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: have to do as an organization, which all of us

574
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: do when we're working with young people and particularly vulnerable

575
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: young people, is make sure that there are no doors

576
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: of access for pedophiles of people coming into groom. So

577
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: you want them to be able to look at our

578
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: website and our program and know that it's going to

579
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: be very difficult for them to prey on any of

580
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: our young people. So we make it really hard for

581
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: them at every turn. Our program is supervised by degree

582
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: qualified counselor or social worker or psychologists, so they're there

583
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: the whole time while the mentee and the mentor are

584
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: talking and yeah, so it's fully supervised the whole time.

585
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: It's something that we are very vigilant about. It's really important.

586
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: It's paramount.

587
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: Safety is at the top of our our pillar on

588
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: everything we discuss, and you know, as well as the

589
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: supervision of course or contact details aren't shared. There's a

590
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: defined into the program, and there's separation. Often you find

591
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: where in organizations where it has occurred, they've groomed through

592
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 5: a period and then it's been after that there's been

593
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: this association.

594
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 6: So separation is key.

595
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: There's lots of elements to it, can it's it's complex,

596
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: and it's a good major concern.

597
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: How has creating rays well? What has it done for

598
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 3: your relationship? For your marriage?

599
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: You can believe.

600
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: It's interesting.

601
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: I mean I always talk about raises our fourth child.

602
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: You know, we had the kids, and then bringing up

603
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: kids and raising children for me, wasn't that easy? You know,

604
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: you're stuck at home. I would often be quite resentful

605
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: watching Lee walk out the door off to work for

606
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: twelve hours, and you know, I'm their home with kids.

607
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: And now that's probably reversed a little bit, like Leon's

608
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: work has different. His chairs of organizations now rather than CEOs,

609
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: and I walk out Now that the kids are grown up,

610
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: I walk out in the morning and go off to

611
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: work for ten and twelve hours. And you know, sometimes

612
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: you watch me going, oh, that looks like more fun

613
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: than what I'm doing. You know, so I think for us,

614
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: it's brought us together. It's a project that we've built

615
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: on together. It is like our fourth child. Leone brings

616
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: the commercial nous and the brain to our organization. I've

617
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: learned so much from him as our chairman over the

618
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: fifteen years that we've been running. You know, he'll say

619
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: I bring the heart. I wrote the program, but I

620
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: would never have been able to expand it and scale

621
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: it the way that we have without the.

622
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: Commerciality of Lee.

623
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Speaker 4: And you know, his brain and his challenging questions that

624
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: sometimes I want him to get back in his box

625
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: and not tell me how to run my business.

626
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: But you know, often a.

627
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: Few weeks later I kind of think, oh shit, and

628
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: he was actually right so unto last.

629
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: The first time I read that.

630
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Public, no one's listening.

631
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: We're in a bathroom, mate, why do you call it?

632
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: It's recorded forever. You'll be able to bring that out.

633
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: So I think you've been complimentary.

634
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 6: No, it's definitely Enrichard. It's funny.

635
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: A lot of people say you never go into business

636
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 5: with your family and friends, but if I look back

637
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: over thirty five years of business, some of my closest

638
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: friends have come from working together so we launched into

639
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: it together and the skills are complimentary. I don't think

640
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: they're as generous as you've said on my side, but

641
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 5: it's really worked, and certainly, you know, at times, definitely

642
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: I have to be reminded that you're being the chairman now,

643
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: you're not to be the husband stuck with that tacky

644
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: humor or pretty bit dad Jack's are always welcome though.

645
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: In the boardroom though that's not okay, that sounds like

646
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: the title of a song.

647
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: Well at least it was you, VICKI. It wasn't like someone.

648
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: That's usually we do introduce ourselves Elia's husband and wife. Yeah,

649
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 5: but I remember being in a minister's office in Canberra

650
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: once and we forgot to and it was about halfway

651
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: through and we were doing I don't know, there was

652
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: something going on the weekend.

653
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: That kept surfacing through the chat.

654
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: Then they said, oh, when they worked out of you

655
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: guys related and we said, oh, that makes a lot

656
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: of sense of all that carrying on.

657
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: They were worried about our governance for a while.

658
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: This was a church minister, not a political minister, was

659
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: a political and he was worried about that.

660
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Speaker 4: Now I think it's worked pretty well, yeah, really, I mean,

661
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: you know it's not all rosy.

662
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Speaker 1: Okay, you guys have been married for how many years?

663
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: Thirty two weeks ago?

664
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Speaker 2: Congrasin, So how do you get through your bumps and

665
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: bruises in the relationship because things changed, as I was

666
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: sort of alluding to, aside from my hair color, which

667
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: my wife has pointed out, how do you how do

668
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: you get through through the Do you have any techniques, any.

669
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Tips for our us?

670
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 6: I think we're learning from you.

671
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: I think it's all the things that you talk to

672
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: and our parents talk to. It's it's really that communication.

673
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: And before that, it's just time together. When you've got

674
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 5: busy charity and a couple of businesses as well that

675
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: pay the mortgage and three kids, the life's pretty full

676
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: and to look around and say, hey, we haven't connected

677
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: for a week. So it is firstly about time and communication.

678
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: It was really interesting recently we were on a just

679
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: learning and not through a book, just around marriage and

680
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: Richmond and just simply to recognize that communication can be

681
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: on those three levels. You can have transactional rather informational.

682
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 5: You know, when do we need to pick up the

683
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 5: kids and you know what's happening on the weekend or

684
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: can be Secondly, it can be around opinions. Do you

685
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: have enough time to get together that you're actually sharing

686
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: each other's opinions? And thirdly level three, you know, are

687
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 5: you actually sharing your feelings?

688
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

689
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: Certainly, sat back from that when holy smokes, we're having

690
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: very little time together and then when we're together, we're

691
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 5: never getting to the feelings level.

692
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: Did you guys, did you bring that up? Did you

693
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: actually talk? Do you say, hey, VI, this I've just

694
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: heard these three things and yeah, it.

695
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 6: Was a shock to me.

696
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: And now to joke around the dinner table. Isn't it

697
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: that we need to stop hanging out at level one?

698
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 4: Let's get to level three. Let's get there quickly?

699
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: You mean third base? Well not, we're talking about sometimes.

700
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: You just need a little rub on the tummy and

701
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: a good feed and then you're fi.

702
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: You can walk away for a couple of weeks and

703
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: you guys go.

704
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: And we like, we like the intimate talking about how

705
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: I get Do you not?

706
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Do you have enough of that? You don't? Okay?

707
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well there you go.

708
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: And this comes back to the mentoring, which is what

709
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: it's all about, right, is talking and listening so you've

710
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: actually got to be brave enough to and say what

711
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: you think and put it out there, like takes courage

712
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: to do that. But also you've got to listen, well right,

713
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: listen to what's going on and play it back and

714
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: understand it and talk about the feelings as well. So yeah,

715
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: you've got to be brave enough to say what you think,

716
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 4: but also to listen to what we said.

717
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: I remember this from years ago, so when we were

718
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: living in LA and the movie culture, like you go

719
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: to the big movie theaters and it was a big thing,

720
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: and I.

721
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Said, we'll go to the movie. I don't want to

722
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: go to the movies. I don't want to sit.

723
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: In the dark and watch your screen. I'd rather go

724
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: out for dinner or go for a walk and have

725
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: a chat to you. Yeah, And I never even considered

726
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: that before. I thought, Yeah, movie date, that's.

727
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: That's you know, what's romantic.

728
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk in the car and the way there

729
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: about the movie that we're about to see, and then

730
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the movie on the way home that

731
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: we just saw.

732
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: Transactional so level waight.

733
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: Number one, first base Yeah.

734
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, And on reflection, I think, you know, I've

735
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: probably had twenty years of working too many hours in

736
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: a day and coming home and vic all the kids

737
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 5: to saying, so how was your Daydad, and May and

738
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: Sue would be because I was totally spent. Good Yeah,

739
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: and that was it. No chance of even getting through

740
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: level one and two, little A three, you know it was.

741
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 5: It's really on reflection. I don't know how we got

742
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: through those bumps and ups and downs that you talk

743
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: to What are we.

744
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: How many years are week?

745
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty two or is it thirty three?

746
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: This year we didn't have six years. We kind of

747
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: went yeah, way too to it. So, you know, everyone

748
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: has their own path.

749
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're okay, this is good. I love it

750
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: when I learned stuff.

751
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: What's the overwhelming experience that your kids talk about when

752
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: they've completed the program, is there is there one specific

753
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: thing that they so.

754
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: A lot of what they talk about is there was

755
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: this person who doesn't really know me, but was prepared

756
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: to sit and listen and let me talk about all

757
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: of my things and they're not even paid. You know,

758
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: that's always pretty remarkable. They kind of joke around that

759
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: what we see a lot of is the confidence, you know,

760
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: you know, if you give a young person a mentor,

761
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: you're actually giving them confidence and you're giving them connection

762
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: and so that I think is really important, the community connection,

763
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: So for them to understand that there are people all

764
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: around you that you can go and get help from.

765
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: To experience for a whole six months, every single week

766
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: of talking to someone, having them actually listen to you

767
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 4: means that you're much more likely to go and ask

768
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: for help from someone. So that help seeking is also

769
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: a really important gift because that's how we save lives. Absolutely,

770
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: that's how we know that they're equipped to and get

771
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: the help that they need and accept it.

772
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked a lot about this on the

773
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: podcast as well. Just you know, what everyone really wants

774
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: to feel at the core of ourselves is that you matter.

775
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: And I think that's probably the most beautiful gift that

776
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: a mentor gives, in that freness of the time that

777
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: I matter enough to someone to show up every week.

778
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: And I think that is a gift that you can take,

779
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: you know, forever, and six months is a long time

780
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: at that age specifically, you know, so part yeah, it's

781
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: going to be so interesting, you know, you're fifteen years

782
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: in but like to see where those kids, you know,

783
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: in fifteen years time and another fifteen years you know

784
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: what that effects. That's exactly right, and it's interesting.

785
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: So our next piece of research will be a longitudinal

786
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: study where we go back and talk to about those

787
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: thirteen thousand kids about what do you remember from your mentor?

788
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: And this time last year, we got a phone call

789
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: from a young person who rang us and just said, oh,

790
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, I know we're not meant to stay in

791
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: touch with our mentor, but I have some news and

792
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: I really want to talk to my mentor.

793
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, is there a way?

794
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: Is there a possibility that I could talk to them?

795
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: And we talked him through it and we were like,

796
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, and we're not sure that we could do

797
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: that for you. And you know, if you could talk

798
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: to your mentor, what would you like to tell them?

799
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: And he just said, well, you know, in talking to Ian,

800
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 4: his name was the mentor and talking to Ian all

801
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: those years ago, when I was fourteen, I learned that

802
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: I am actually really good with my hands as much

803
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: as I'm a cranky kid. And I kept getting kicked

804
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: out of school and my attendance was really bad, you know,

805
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: I was I'd have like eighty days absence at school.

806
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 4: What I learned from Ian was that I could add value.

807
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: And I just I'm ringing now because I actually want

808
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: to tell him that I've just graduated from my carpentry

809
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: apprenticeship and now i'm you know, I'm a qualified carpenter

810
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: and it's because of him, you know, And it's just amazing.

811
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: You just kind of go, oh, this is cool, Like

812
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: this is what you want to do. You're planting seeds

813
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: when they're really young and they flourish and grow at

814
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: their own pace.

815
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

816
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: And it's actually a beautiful video about this mentee who's

817
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 5: now probably mid twenties tradey and to hear an Aussie

818
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 5: blow talk like this and just be so vulnerable, it's

819
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 5: just it's goal.

820
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 6: It's changed his life material one person.

821
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's so good. Did you pass the message

822
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: on to Ian?

823
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: We couldn't help us.

824
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: I think it's an ideo and that's the part for

825
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: the mentor, you know as well. If I'm talking like

826
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: someone who's been made redundant and he's helped a kid

827
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: in that way and then you bring him up, you know,

828
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: eighteen months later and go, hey, by the way that

829
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: work you did with oh, mate, he's just plugged that in.

830
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: And you remember, you remember a mentor from your childhood, right,

831
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: You think back and you go, you know, I can

832
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: remember my commerce teacher. I remember her name, I can

833
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: remember her voice. She had really curly black hair, and

834
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: she was amazing. She changed my life. I wouldn't have

835
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: finished school without her. And the job that we got

836
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: that I got at Honeywell was through her and her sister.

837
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: So you know, they there are people that change your

838
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: life lives and like a sliding door moment, your trajectory

839
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 4: goes in a different path because that person cared about

840
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: you and showed up for you.

841
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: What would you say to an adult that was sort

842
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: of thinking about becoming a mentor? What would you What

843
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: would you tell them that might convince them that it's

844
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: a really good idea.

845
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: A lot of our mentors will say that that what

846
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: if they don't like me? And I can tell you

847
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: that our mentees love their mentors so much and it

848
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 4: doesn't matter what age or stage you are.

849
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Grageously bad.

850
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like we have mentors who are twenty one,

851
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: you've got to be twenty one, so you've got a

852
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: bit of life experience all the way through to eighty one.

853
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: I remember I had a ninety year old men one time,

854
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: and he was extraordinary. You know, we have lots of

855
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: kids who don't have grandparents around them that they don't

856
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: get to catch up with. You know, lots of women

857
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: with skills, you know, to share that they might be

858
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: parenting themselves and you know, got extra skills to share.

859
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: University students, corporates who give their time off work to

860
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: go and actually do something in the community. It's another

861
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: thing we learned from COVID is actually we don't want

862
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 4: to just sit in an office all day and you

863
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: know work. We actually want to go and connect with

864
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: that community. So you will make a difference. Your mentee

865
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: will like you, and please do it because we can't

866
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: do it without them.

867
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: That's right.

868
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say, Ali, congratulations.

869
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 6: You know it's a gift.

870
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: I think probably the number one reason people don't is

871
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: they think they're not good enough. When I did the training,

872
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: I felt I failed because you do it all this

873
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 5: role playing and you had to do things like listening.

874
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 5: And I found, as an autocratic CEO that I've been

875
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 5: for thirty years, I was not going to cut it.

876
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 5: As a mentor.

877
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: You've done pretty well with your listening skills.

878
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: Though now apparently I've got a way to go.

879
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: To some days. If you learn something today, that's good.

880
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: It really is a gift.

881
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: They know if they project themselves forward six months, twelve months,

882
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: and they'll be looking back and going, wow, that was

883
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: just amazing.

884
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 7: You know.

885
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: It's actually you know, people who give us praise for example,

886
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: and even thank us for the work we do. And

887
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 5: it's it's really strange because it's it's the other way around.

888
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: It's actually quite selfish. You get so much out of it.

889
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: Just one more thing that I just love about the

890
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: program as well, is that you know, obviously the mentees

891
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: get incredible assistance. The mentors also you know, have fulfillment.

892
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: But it helps families as well because when you've got

893
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: a mentor that is also you know, being that listening

894
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: year and guiding it, it creates like adult people are

895
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: not so bad. Maybe I can tell my mum this, Yeah,

896
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: maybe I can tell my dad how I'm feeling. Yeah,

897
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: And that is that's a powerful that's the experience. Yeah, yeah, all.

898
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 6: Right, we do it.

899
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: You're ready to get your clothes off and hopp in

900
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: the shower with us. That came maybe Cameron, I'm sorry

901
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: to take it down saving water.

902
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the shower. It's a metaphorical shower.

903
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: You can keep your clothes on and it's taking closees off.

904
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: Sweetheart, all right, just Start's.

905
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: Funny how that changes over over the thirty years of marriage.

906
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: First question, what are you most grateful for in your relationship?

907
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: The fun?

908
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: Leon's brought a lot of fun to our lives.

909
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: I reckon it's the kids. The one plus one has

910
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 5: really been way more than three.

911
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, the kids have been huge.

912
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: That the organizations in the houses and everything that was

913
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: building stuff together, but the kids have been.

914
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: What the world needs more of is mentors.

915
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, empathy, Yeah, kindness, it's my bea tricky one.

916
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: I know this often chocolate, dark chocolate, nor cho, Oh

917
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: the chocolate. What is there a moment in your life

918
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: that you would like to revisit? Can I have three?

919
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: I really like my mum was very close to all

920
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: the births of our children. If she wasn't there, she

921
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: was like right outside the door. But my dad passed

922
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 4: away really early after a failed lung transplant. I would

923
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: love him to come and meet them. Yeah, so it's

924
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: about bringing dad back yeah, I.

925
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 6: Think the proposal day was pretty good.

926
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 5: You guys are reminded me of that day again.

927
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 6: That was.

928
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, were you near the past? Is

929
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: that where it was? Julian rocks?

930
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, Julian you seemed to know.

931
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I actually know it for a really awful reason though. Yeah,

932
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: there are people who have yeah, yeah, not shark had

933
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: come back from a.

934
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: Two weeks before of us.

935
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: Really in the water.

936
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: You didn't even know.

937
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: When the husband got in front of the Yeah.

938
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: But when we were there, the sharks, you know, the

939
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: greener sharks came through. Leon pushed me forward.

940
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 5: He started going back, and we're holding hands. You probably

941
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: drop hands.

942
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Think through.

943
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: They're like a labrador gray nurses on you.

944
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: They are they are safe.

945
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 6: All right.

946
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: Last question, describe each other in one word.

947
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 5: Please, I need to uncommonly kind, nice.

948
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: I've already said mine, fun, fun, bringing back the first

949
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: uncommonly kind. I think that that does sum up actually

950
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: the both of you. You know, to to start a

951
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: charity and to keep this charity going, and knowing what

952
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: it means and how much work it takes to to

953
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: continue this on and you know the kindness that you

954
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: obviously share and like any corporation, it starts from the

955
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: top down, and having the both of you at the

956
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: top just you can feel that with raise. So thank

957
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: you for everything that you're doing for the youth. It

958
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: belongs to a lot of other people. Now, we dropped

959
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: a pebbled in Willie and the ripple effect has been

960
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: exciting to watch, but it belongs to a lot of

961
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: other people. Now, yeah, yeah, thank you.

962
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Well, thank you made those ripples keep rippling out, Yeah,

963
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: into a tsunami of love.

964
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Did you get tiary?

965
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it just feels you well, it just feels

966
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 7: the kind of work that they're doing and knowing the

967
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 7: impact on those kids, and when you know, when anyone

968
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 7: talks about, you know, the death of a loved one,

969
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 7: I mean, I know we went through that with one

970
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 7: of my best friend's brothers when he took his life,

971
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 7: and it always takes me back to that moment when

972
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 7: we got that news of that devastation and seeing one

973
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 7: of my best friends that the impact of that, and

974
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 7: you know, just to know that this charity is is really.

975
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: Grassroots, say Lives and making such a difference in young

976
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: people's lives, it's just incredibly moving to me, I.

977
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: Agree with all of that and add and making a

978
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: difference to the mentors'.

979
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: Lives absolutely as well.

980
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: It's really inspiring and the fact that you can get

981
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: trained up and to do something that is so caring.

982
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: And I loved to hear that Vicky and Leon are

983
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: both mentors as well. They're practicing what they preach.

984
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: Was a lot of the people that they work with,

985
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: like in the corporation, are also mentors as well. They've

986
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: done the training and done it because they're so inspired

987
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: by them and inspired by the kind of help that

988
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: they can offer. And also, as you say, it makes.

989
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: Them feel good and that's okay.

990
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: That's part of self love.

991
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: If you're feeling good by helping another person, amazing.

992
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: It can only do a ripple effect of positivity in

993
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: your own life, make you a better person.

994
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

995
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: So check out Ray. Check out Rays dot org, dot au,

996
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: go to their website. You can read more about them

997
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: and if you feel inspired, definitely sign up as a mentor.

998
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: You won't regret it.

999
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, alrighty, that's enough separate bathrooms for today.

1000
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Unless you want to roll in another one.

1001
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: There's plenty of episodes. Go to it, so much good stuff,

1002
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening, Bye for now.