Speaker 1: Live on Sky's Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika di.
Speaker 3: Giorgio, Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight.
Speaker 4: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke finally caves to pressure, canceling
Speaker 4: the visa of a Palestinian woman who praised the October
Speaker 4: seven massacre and even thanked Allah for keeping her alive
Speaker 4: long enough to witness Hamas's rampage. The Federal Court told
Speaker 4: sex is non binary, along with other bizarre contradictions about
Speaker 4: what a woman is. I am, of course, referring to
Speaker 4: the case of Giggle versus Tickle.
Speaker 3: Don't miss my.
Speaker 4: Interview with Giggle app founder sal Grover coming up. It's
Speaker 4: her first interview since her appeal was heard. This week,
Speaker 4: and Israel's security Cabinet approves Benjamin Netnia, who's plan to
Speaker 4: occupy Gaza City. But first to breaking news. Within the
Speaker 4: last hour, it has been announced the Australian visa for
Speaker 4: a Palestinian woman who supported the October seven massacre has
Speaker 4: finally been canceled. Tony Burke made the announcement after this
Speaker 4: woman's history was exposed by The Herald Son. Now you
Speaker 4: have to ask how was this woman even considered Four
Speaker 4: of visa in the first place, and why weren't better
Speaker 4: background checks in order? And it adds to the question
Speaker 4: of what sort of a country do we want to
Speaker 4: live in now? This is something I have asked myself
Speaker 4: many times since October seven, twenty twenty three, because week
Speaker 4: in week out, these anti Israel protests bring shame to Australia.
Speaker 4: Our values are being eroded by those who hate us,
Speaker 4: and clearly our national security.
Speaker 3: Is at risk because of it. Is it too late
Speaker 3: to save it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, But what I do know is labor
Speaker 4: has put us in this position.
Speaker 3: Who is a bringing into the country now?
Speaker 4: This woman from Palestine monazar Head praise the October seven
Speaker 4: massacre and even thanked Allah for keeping her alive long
Speaker 4: enough to witness Harmasa's deadly attack on Israel. Yet she
Speaker 4: was somehow granted a visa to come here now, despite
Speaker 4: posting this picture on social media the day after the attack.
Speaker 3: Saying we woke up and got God's kingdom.
Speaker 4: She posted a photo of terrified festival goers with the
Speaker 4: words praise be to Allah, who has kept us alive
Speaker 4: to see this day.
Speaker 3: So really an answer to.
Speaker 4: My earlier question, this is the type of person labor
Speaker 4: is accepting to come here, and the opposition was today
Speaker 4: rightly asking questions.
Speaker 3: They are weak, they are hopeless.
Speaker 5: Tony Burke, quite frankly, if the visa is not canceled
Speaker 5: today should step aside.
Speaker 3: He should resign.
Speaker 6: If you support the slaughter of innocent men and women,
Speaker 6: you're not welcome in this country.
Speaker 5: On what planet do we think it's okay Pete to
Speaker 5: be importing self declared jew haters, self declared terrorists, sympathizers
Speaker 5: into a country. That is not the way to build
Speaker 5: social cohesion. And look, of course, I Labor are repeat offenders.
Speaker 4: Three thousand gardens were handed visas with little to no
Speaker 4: security checks. We knew it was a risk, we knew
Speaker 4: what would happen bringing people in from those countries, some
Speaker 4: of whose values may not represent our own. But this
Speaker 4: is a bigger issue for us than the war raging
Speaker 4: in the Middle East. This is about Australia and the
Speaker 4: type of country we have become. We've lost our way,
Speaker 4: We are a cesspit of social anarchy and our values
Speaker 4: have been eroded. And this is what was on full
Speaker 4: display to the world on Sunday when ninety thousand anti
Speaker 4: Israel protesters shut down the Harbor Bridge, flags of Hamas
Speaker 4: and the Taliban were waived, a photo of the Ayatola
Speaker 4: of Iran was on display, and death to the IDF
Speaker 4: was chanted. High profile activists Nasamanschi essentially gave Australia the
Speaker 4: middle finger, writing on social media, whose bridge our bridge
Speaker 4: from the river to the sea, and these people are
Speaker 4: laughing in our faces, They are laughing at our core values.
Speaker 4: You don't have to be Jewish to see the threat
Speaker 4: that is unfolding in front of our very eyes. Anthony
Speaker 4: Arberanesi is clearly all but gearing up to recognize Palestine.
Speaker 4: And that might not mean much on a local front,
Speaker 4: but on the international front.
Speaker 3: It means everything.
Speaker 4: It basically says Palestine has a right to exist, Israel
Speaker 4: does not, and for us at home, it only emboldens
Speaker 4: those who seek to cause us harm. In fact, the
Speaker 4: PM's response to the Harbor Bridge protest tells you everything
Speaker 4: you need to know.
Speaker 7: Yesterday's march was peaceful and was an opportunity for people
Speaker 7: to express their concern about what is happening in Gaza,
Speaker 7: and the images that we've seen peaceful.
Speaker 4: Really, I mean, this is a Prime Minister who has
Speaker 4: had his own envoys report into anti Semitism sitting on
Speaker 4: his desk for weeks now, and has done absolutely nothing
Speaker 4: about it. But of course we're used to the lax approach.
Speaker 4: Where was the hardline stance when where are the Jews?
Speaker 4: Or whatever was shouted at the steps of the Sydney
Speaker 4: Opera House, or when a hate preacher told us he
Speaker 4: was elated at the October seven massacre, or when synagogues
Speaker 4: were firebombed and other acts of anti Semitism across the country,
Speaker 4: or when nurses allegedly set on camera that they won't
Speaker 4: treat Jewish patients they would kill them again. Is this
Speaker 4: the sort of country we want to live in now?
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I believe a lot of what we
Speaker 4: are witnessing comes from the fact that the multiculturalism experiment
Speaker 4: has failed in Australia.
Speaker 3: We have brought people into this country.
Speaker 4: Some who hate us, some who hate our country, some
Speaker 4: who hate our values, and some who have absolutely no
Speaker 4: interest in assimilating. And this in particular pertains to the
Speaker 4: un impact of radical Islamism. Now, of course, most Muslims
Speaker 4: live peacefully in our society.
Speaker 3: I am not denying that.
Speaker 4: However, radical Islamism is incompatible with Western democracies.
Speaker 3: Until we do more to stop importing people.
Speaker 4: Here who do not share our values, I fear nothing
Speaker 4: will change because their culture is so far removed from
Speaker 4: our own.
Speaker 3: It is a culture of hate and it is toxic.
Speaker 4: It is in sacred Islamic texts like the Quran that
Speaker 4: prescribe violence, and prescribe violence against Jews. The Sahib Bukari
Speaker 4: states that there is a Jew hiding behind me, so
Speaker 4: kill him for example. Now, of course many Muslims would
Speaker 4: argue that that passage or others are not a command
Speaker 4: or an incitement, rather a prediction, but it presents a
Speaker 4: real cultural challenge for Australia, and based on what we
Speaker 4: have witnessed here since October seven, I don't think we
Speaker 4: have control over the culture are trying to create here anymore.
Speaker 4: The new norm is flags of terror groups and chance
Speaker 4: of death to the IDF.
Speaker 3: And this is.
Speaker 4: Australia where our security and safety is at risk and
Speaker 4: our sense of identity that our ANZACs fought so hard
Speaker 4: for is being eroded. And this is why it just
Speaker 4: absolutely beggars belief that a Palestinian woman who supported the
Speaker 4: October seven massacre would be granted a visa to come here.
Speaker 4: A spokesperson for Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has told
Speaker 4: Sky News late this afternoon that the Department has advised
Speaker 4: the Office that the visa was canceled today. The reasons
Speaker 4: have been communicated directly to the applicant.
Speaker 3: Well, g common sense at last, at last, But why did.
Speaker 4: It take the Herald Sun newspaper to expose this in
Speaker 4: the first place and for the Coalition to put the
Speaker 4: Minister under pressure before Tony Burke actually acted. Otherwise nothing,
Speaker 4: nothing at all would have changed, And earlier.
Speaker 3: A spokesperson for Berg said.
Speaker 4: The government is serious in its view about not importing hatred.
Speaker 3: Well, it's too late, minister.
Speaker 4: You have already important hatred and we are all paying
Speaker 4: the price for it. Well, there's never been a more
Speaker 4: important case currently before the courts than Giggle versus Tickle,
Speaker 4: because depending on the outcome of an appeal, it could
Speaker 4: have far ranging ramifications for Australia and would impact every
Speaker 4: single one of us, from our freedom of speech to
Speaker 4: the way men and women are legally defined. Now right now,
Speaker 4: if you're a man and you identify as female, congratulations,
Speaker 4: you can legally be classified as a woman, and if
Speaker 4: you dare to challenge that, well you may just get.
Speaker 3: Hold in front of a court. Now.
Speaker 4: I have sat in disbelief watching the Giggle Versus Tickle
Speaker 4: appeal in the Federal Court this week, where biological man
Speaker 4: roxand Tickle argued they had injured feelings after being booted
Speaker 4: out of a female only app and have been misgendered.
Speaker 3: Seriously, give me a break.
Speaker 4: This is the argument running through the courts now that
Speaker 4: if your feelings are hurt, you can claim damages. It
Speaker 4: tells you everything you need to know about this dystopian universe.
Speaker 3: We are living in this.
Speaker 4: Whole appeal and the case prior has been nothing short
Speaker 4: of a cloud show. At Giggle for Girls founder Sal Grover,
Speaker 4: who will join me in the studio shortly, You're not
Speaker 4: going to want to miss that interview. Well, she's still
Speaker 4: going through the legal system all because a judge last.
Speaker 3: Year claimed sex was changeable.
Speaker 4: Now, if someone can please explain how that works if
Speaker 4: you're born with a penis and suddenly you claim to
Speaker 4: be a woman, I'd really love to know.
Speaker 3: Please tell me.
Speaker 4: Yet, much of the appeal in Giggle Versus Tickle has
Speaker 4: centered around the definition of sex of a woman and
Speaker 4: what it means to be a woman.
Speaker 3: The court heard Tickle submitted.
Speaker 4: This photo to the app and that the low cut
Speaker 4: top and hair down indicated that they are a woman,
Speaker 4: that it should have been a.
Speaker 3: Dead giveaway of sorts.
Speaker 4: Well, sal Grover immediately checked the photo and barred Roxandtickle
Speaker 4: from membership. And so here we are today now haven't
Speaker 4: listened to some of the most bizarre, nonsensical contradictions to
Speaker 4: come out of this week's appeal.
Speaker 3: Council for Equality.
Speaker 4: Australia Ruth Higgins SC told the court the word sex
Speaker 4: in the Sex Discrimination Act is neither a binary concept
Speaker 4: nor one that's biologically fixed when designated at birth. She
Speaker 4: went on to say sex is a way of classifying
Speaker 4: people along a scale between a man at one end
Speaker 4: and a woman at the other, but as a matter
Speaker 4: of ordinary meaning, the statute is agnostic as to where
Speaker 4: persons are plotted along that scale. So basically, anywhere you
Speaker 4: assign yourself along that scale of male to female makes
Speaker 4: you want you want to be apparently, and this is frightening.
Speaker 3: It's really frightening.
Speaker 4: Because it totally blurs the distinction between the two and
Speaker 4: the fact that there is even a proposal that sex
Speaker 4: is non binary and that it should be interpreted that
Speaker 4: way under our laws should concern everyone. Counsel for the
Speaker 4: Sex Discrimination Commissioner silly a winner to even argue that
Speaker 4: the word woman in the Act included trans women. Counsel
Speaker 4: for Roxanne Tickle Browner Godding said sal Grover had participated
Speaker 4: in some fifty interviews in relation to the case, and
Speaker 4: in each of those she used the male pronouns for
Speaker 4: Miss Tickle.
Speaker 3: That her conduct has.
Speaker 4: At the very least been seriously aggravating and has caused
Speaker 4: Miss Tickle injured feelings.
Speaker 3: The aggravation and injured feelings have mounted up blow by blow.
Speaker 4: This is not just deeds legitimizing of gender, but a
Speaker 4: delegitimizing of humanity. But listen to this. This one's really
Speaker 4: the pearl are out of them all.
Speaker 3: This is not a.
Speaker 4: Case of asking anyone to change their opinions. It is
Speaker 4: not policing the opinions that someone can hold.
Speaker 3: Well, hang on, that is exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: It is policing opinions anyone who dares to challenge the
Speaker 4: lefts warped fantasyland narrative of gender of what is a
Speaker 4: biological fixed reality is policed in this country and hold
Speaker 4: in front of a court.
Speaker 3: Why because the law says so.
Speaker 4: Julia Gillard and mended the Sex Discrimination Act in twenty
Speaker 4: thirteen and remove the definitions of sex man and woman.
Speaker 3: So discrimination is defined, but sex is not.
Speaker 4: So how can we know what gender identity is when
Speaker 4: our laws have erased those definitions?
Speaker 3: And here we are today.
Speaker 4: Debating whether a biological man can be a woman because
Speaker 4: our laws currently suggest they can be. Now, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: it says that men's feelings are more important than women's.
Speaker 4: It says that men can have legal protections while women
Speaker 4: protections are taken away. And this is why this appeal
Speaker 4: is so important. If hurt feelings becomes a legitimate argument,
Speaker 4: if that stands up, it will set a precedent for
Speaker 4: any one of us who challenges the gender narrative.
Speaker 3: As JK.
Speaker 4: Rowling put it so perfectly, made the best woman win.
Speaker 4: But what is a woman Australia does not know?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: As I said, you don't want to miss my interview
Speaker 4: with sal Grover coming up, but in the meantime let's
Speaker 4: get into it. Joining me is Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace. Andrew,
Speaker 4: thanks for your time. Look, I want to begin with
Speaker 4: that Palestinian woman who praised the October seven massacre. Now
Speaker 4: she was granted a visa to come here, which the Minister,
Speaker 4: Tony Burke said late this afternoon has now been canceled.
Speaker 4: But well done to the work of the Herald's son
Speaker 4: for exposing this and for the Coalition for putting him
Speaker 4: under pressure. Otherwise nothing would have happened. We've got three
Speaker 4: thousand gardens here already with little to no security checks.
Speaker 4: What does it say about border security under labor.
Speaker 6: Well, what it demonstrates, Dnika, and thanks for having me on,
Speaker 6: is that there are there's a rule for one and
Speaker 6: there's a rule for others. Just last year in December,
Speaker 6: Tony Burke denied a visa to Aleshaked, who was the
Speaker 6: former Justice Minister for Israel, on the grounds that she
Speaker 6: was going to threaten social cohesion. Then in June this
Speaker 6: year he denied a visa for Hillel Fuld on the
Speaker 6: same basis. And yet here he has just approved the
Speaker 6: visa for this Palaestinian woman who's provided some appalling commentary
Speaker 6: in relation to the October seven events, and was and
Speaker 6: is a supporter of a listed terrorist organization. Now you know,
Speaker 6: what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Speaker 6: But what A does continue to demonstrate is that this
Speaker 6: government continues to take inconsistent approaches depending on what your
Speaker 6: belief is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I completely agree with you. And again it's
Speaker 4: not like you would have done anything, probably not unless
Speaker 4: it had been exposed by the Herald's son and the
Speaker 4: Coalition put him under immense pressure today. Otherwise it wouldn't
Speaker 4: be having this conversation. Now, look, I want to ask
Speaker 4: you about Israel's security Cabinet this afternoon voted to approve
Speaker 4: a proposal for the IDF to occupy Gaza City.
Speaker 3: Here was the Israeli Prime Minister speaking on Fox.
Speaker 8: Well, Israel teake control of all of Gaza.
Speaker 2: We intend to in order to assure our security, remove
Speaker 2: Hamas there, enable the population to be free of Gaza.
Speaker 2: We don't want to be there as a governing body.
Speaker 2: We want to hand it over to Arab forces.
Speaker 4: Andrew the IDF has avoided entering much of the city
Speaker 4: since the start of this war. It will likely require
Speaker 4: a mass evacuation of the area, where about one million
Speaker 4: Gazans reside. What is your take on this development.
Speaker 6: Well, it's hard to judge from Australia, but my best
Speaker 6: reading is that this is an attempt to effectively put
Speaker 6: pressure on Hamas, another form of pressure. We just simply
Speaker 6: can't have a situation where Hamas stay in power as
Speaker 6: the ruling body in Gaza. I don't think that anybody
Speaker 6: wants that. The Palestinians don't want that. The only body
Speaker 6: person or people who want that is Hamas itself. But
Speaker 6: it is very clear Western countries across the world have
Speaker 6: been clear that we cannot see a situation where Hamas
Speaker 6: are continuing or have the ability to continue to govern
Speaker 6: in Gaza. So I think ultimately this is another form
Speaker 6: of pressure that Prime Minister Netanyahu is putting on Hamas.
Speaker 6: And look, time will tell, but the outcome of the
Speaker 6: Security Cabinet meeting today it would indicate that the civilians
Speaker 6: will be moved from that particular area within Gaza and
Speaker 6: Ghaza Sea before the Israel military seek to route what's
Speaker 6: left of Hamas out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: All right, well, look, we're we're going to be watching
Speaker 4: this one very closely. Andrew Wallace, we have to leave
Speaker 4: it there. Thank you very much for joining me on
Speaker 4: the show this evening.
Speaker 2: Thanks Amika.
Speaker 4: Well, as I said earlier, there's never been a more
Speaker 4: important case currently before the courts than Giggle versus Tickle,
Speaker 4: because depending on the outcome of an appeal, it could
Speaker 4: have far ranging consequences, from our freedom of speech to
Speaker 4: the way men and women are legally defined. And joining
Speaker 4: me now is Giggle founder Sal Grover. Sal, It's good
Speaker 4: to see you. Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 9: Firstly, Oh God, I am exhausted. I'm angry, but I'm optimistic.
Speaker 9: I'm exhaustive because litigation is an exhausting roller coaster that
Speaker 9: you really wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy. I'm angry
Speaker 9: because of legislators and institutions and a lot of the
Speaker 9: media just abandoning me and women and lesbians in general.
Speaker 9: But I'm very optimistic because we went into court with reality,
Speaker 9: the truth, and I think the truth eventually wins.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we certainly hope, so we really really hope. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when you think about it, you
Speaker 4: are fighting against what is a fixed biological reality. You
Speaker 4: have the weight of the women of Australia who understand
Speaker 4: what a woman is, understand gender on your shoulders right now,
Speaker 4: how important is this because I don't think that people
Speaker 4: really quite understand the ramifications of what's going on here.
Speaker 9: If you have just been hearing about this case just
Speaker 9: kind of in the background, it's this silly little case
Speaker 9: called giggle vticle about an app and it's like, well,
Speaker 9: who really cares. That's not what this case is about.
Speaker 9: This case is about whether reality and truth are in law,
Speaker 9: whether women are accurately defined in law, and that the
Speaker 9: law is working as it was intended to provide rights
Speaker 9: and protections that women need. So, for example, you have
Speaker 9: the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who is who intervened in this case,
Speaker 9: and they are arguing that not only can men be women,
Speaker 9: therefore men should be able to go into all women
Speaker 9: only space as services, sports men, heterosexual men can be
Speaker 9: lesbians if that's how they identify, and therefore can go
Speaker 9: and invade any.
Speaker 8: Lesbian event or space.
Speaker 9: They're also saying that men who claim to be women
Speaker 9: need pregnancy protections. Now you should just by hearing that,
Speaker 9: you should know how absolutely absurd that sounds. But basically
Speaker 9: what is happening is the Sex Discrimination Commission, a branch
Speaker 9: of the government, is taking an ideological approach, which is
Speaker 9: gender ideology and trying to implement it into law to
Speaker 9: give men rights and protections that one they're not entitled
Speaker 9: to too they don't need, while simultaneously taking away provisions
Speaker 9: and rights from women that we do need. So anytime
Speaker 9: you go into a change room, a bathroom, even if
Speaker 9: you don't play women's sport, if you watch it, if
Speaker 9: you watch men's sport anything, well you see that there
Speaker 9: are some sort of sex segregation in society. They are
Speaker 9: trying to completely destroy that and that women will have
Speaker 9: absolutely no avenue to have any sort of protections.
Speaker 8: That we need.
Speaker 4: And this is a scary part because it affects everybody.
Speaker 4: Everybody in this country who has a partner, a mother,
Speaker 4: you know where everyone's got a mother. You know, every
Speaker 4: woman in your life could be seriously impacted by this.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about the Sex Discrimination Commission side
Speaker 4: of it. I mean, the fact that you're up against the.
Speaker 3: Sex Discrimination Commission is a laugh in itself. What is
Speaker 3: the point of.
Speaker 4: Having a sex discrimination commissioner who doesn't seem to know
Speaker 4: what a woman is?
Speaker 8: This is exactly right.
Speaker 9: The reality is that sex is immutable, It is binary,
Speaker 9: it is male and female, there is nothing else. If
Speaker 9: you don't understand that, you have no business being the
Speaker 9: Sex Discrimination Commissioner. Anna Cody is currently the Sex Discrimination Commissioner.
Speaker 9: I think she should be forced to resign. She wants
Speaker 9: to interpret the law through an intersectional DEI lens okay,
Speaker 9: go and do that somewhere with de in intersectionality in
Speaker 9: the Sex Discrimination Act.
Speaker 8: If you are the custodian of.
Speaker 9: It, it is your job to protect the reality of sex.
Speaker 8: And if you're not doing that, you should not be there.
Speaker 4: No, because I mean, what's the point of having that
Speaker 4: role then if you can't if you know, the parameters
Speaker 4: are just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Now, look, I want to go through some of the appeal.
Speaker 4: There were little bits that really stood out to me
Speaker 4: this week that I'm sure the same with you. Firstly,
Speaker 4: the Council for Equality Australia Ruth Higgins SC told the
Speaker 4: court that the word sex is non binary extraordinary in
Speaker 4: itself and this is what she said, and we've got
Speaker 4: the quote here. Sex is a way of classifying people
Speaker 4: along a scale between a man at one end and
Speaker 4: a woman at the other. But as a matter of
Speaker 4: ordinary meaning, the statute is agnostic as to where persons
Speaker 4: are plotted along that scale. So the idea of this
Speaker 4: is actually very problematic, highly concerning, because it actually blurs
Speaker 4: the distinction between a man and a woman.
Speaker 9: Under lawndred percent and what she said there with that's
Speaker 9: not a legal argument, that's an ideological statement. She was
Speaker 9: the barrister for Equality Australia. So Equality Australia is one
Speaker 9: of the biggest lgbt QI blah blah blah organizations in
Speaker 9: the country, incredibly well funded both from taxpayers and from
Speaker 9: private donors. They got their start by arguing for same
Speaker 9: sex marriage, so they very much knew what sex was
Speaker 9: once upon a time. They won that fight and they've
Speaker 9: pivoted to now trying to erase sex in law. And
Speaker 9: what is the point of a sex discrimination act If
Speaker 9: it's saying there is no difference between a man and
Speaker 9: a woman, or you can just be anywhere along this
Speaker 9: invisible line you can identify into the other category, why
Speaker 9: have a sex discrimination act?
Speaker 4: Honestly, but this is a worry because it's going to
Speaker 4: blur the lines between what a man and a woman
Speaker 4: is legally. And we're having this argument in Australia right now.
Speaker 9: I mean, and we're so far behind the zeitgeist that's
Speaker 9: happening in other countries. The UK, they won this legally,
Speaker 9: in the US, they've won this politically. In Australia they
Speaker 9: are just holding onto this and it's our politicians just
Speaker 9: being so cowardly that they won't get involved and do anything.
Speaker 8: They sit there and try and say that it's a.
Speaker 9: Culture war and no one really cares about it. The
Speaker 9: Monash University professor Paula Gerbert was quoted in an article
Speaker 9: saying that no one in Australia cares about trans rats.
Speaker 9: Now that might very well be true, but they actually
Speaker 9: care about women's rights, and they care about freedom of speech,
Speaker 9: and they care about freedom of belief and everything that's
Speaker 9: happening right now is against that. And one way I
Speaker 9: can prove that people in this country care about it
Speaker 9: is that I've just raised over a million dollars in crowdfunding.
Speaker 9: One regular people who have helped pay for the case
Speaker 9: because they want female only spaces, they want the freedom
Speaker 9: to be able to acknowledge reality, and they don't want
Speaker 9: ideology being pushed down their throats in the workplace, in school,
Speaker 9: just when they're.
Speaker 8: Walking down the street.
Speaker 9: So people do care about this and the longer that
Speaker 9: media and politicians.
Speaker 8: Ignore that, I think the stupider that they're going to look.
Speaker 3: And I want to get to media in a minute,
Speaker 3: but just on this point.
Speaker 4: One of the arguments raised by Roxannetickles lawyers this week
Speaker 4: was that Roxanntickle had injured feelings. Now I find it
Speaker 4: extraordinary that a case in a court of law can
Speaker 4: be based on feelings.
Speaker 3: But this, this is where we're heading to.
Speaker 4: And again it infringes on freedom of speech in my view,
Speaker 4: because I could say something to a person and they go,
Speaker 4: You've hurt my feelings, and suddenly like what's happened here?
Speaker 4: You get holed in front of a court of law
Speaker 4: or in front of a tribunal, and that is the
Speaker 4: very problem.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, really the whole case is about feelings
Speaker 9: because he feels like a woman, so then he's a
Speaker 9: woman and he feels hurt, so pay money. Look, one
Speaker 9: of the things that they have said that why I
Speaker 9: should pay damages of up to one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 9: is because apparently, in fifty interviews I have called him
Speaker 9: a man.
Speaker 8: Now I disagree. I think it's many more interviews than that.
Speaker 9: But look, you may be hurt by somebody stating reality.
Speaker 9: That is a you problem. If you can't accept reality,
Speaker 9: you're going to have.
Speaker 8: To deal with that.
Speaker 9: It is not an insult to call someone a man,
Speaker 9: nor am I seeing it with any intent to cause
Speaker 9: harm or be insulting. It is just injective, observable fact
Speaker 9: about reality. He can think whatever he wants about himself.
Speaker 9: I can't stop him. I wouldn't want to stop him,
Speaker 9: because if you're living in a free society, a man
Speaker 9: can call himself a woman.
Speaker 8: He can think he's a woman. That's fine.
Speaker 9: What he can't do in a free society.
Speaker 8: Is forced me to believe it.
Speaker 9: So the person who's actually experiencing harm here is me.
Speaker 9: But this is what happens with gender ideology. Every claim
Speaker 9: it makes the opposite is true. Yes, it's not men
Speaker 9: who claim to be women who are being discriminated against
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 8: It's women.
Speaker 9: If you don't allow us to have women only spaces,
Speaker 9: you are discriminating against us on the basis of sex.
Speaker 9: If you think that being that being called a man
Speaker 9: is harmful and you want to punish me, I am
Speaker 9: the one being harmed because I can't tell the truth
Speaker 9: or at the very least my opinion.
Speaker 8: So no, it's absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 9: They also want to punish me because I laughed during
Speaker 9: cross examination in the first round, and it's like, well,
Speaker 9: if that holds up in court, why would anybody ever
Speaker 9: be a witness ever again, you wouldn't, you would not boss,
Speaker 9: you could get punished. So that can completely changes the
Speaker 9: justice system in this country. So there's two really important
Speaker 9: things happening here. Which is obviously women's rights, but this
Speaker 9: freedom of speech is just as important. I mean, we
Speaker 9: don't have a society without freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: No, we certainly don't. Before we let you go, what
Speaker 3: happens now.
Speaker 9: So now we wait while we also sort of start
Speaker 9: the war plan of the High Court. So we'll get
Speaker 9: a decision in the next few months, probably by December.
Speaker 9: I don't know any more about it until then. If
Speaker 9: let's go with the worst case scenario first, if I lose,
Speaker 9: I will take it to the High Court.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 9: If I win, the other side, I have no doubt,
Speaker 9: probably feels just as strongly about that.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 9: The interruption that could be that the decision is so
Speaker 9: strong that the court says, actually, no, there's no more
Speaker 9: work to do here. But if they say to me
Speaker 9: that there is just no biological Sex ex Discrimination Act.
Speaker 8: That's an error in Lauren. So that streets to the
Speaker 8: High Court. So if it's to the High Court, it's
Speaker 8: another million dollars.
Speaker 9: It's about eighteen months of madness. It's more time with
Speaker 9: women's rates are up in the air, and ultimately it's
Speaker 9: Australia being absolutely humiliated on the world stage that they
Speaker 9: are holding on to an incredibly unpopular ideology that is
Speaker 9: completely destroying everybody's instincts and rates.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean in the Senate only last week the
Speaker 4: Minister for Women didn't want to talk about what's in
Speaker 4: the Sex Discrimination Act because of harm reasons.
Speaker 3: So this is exactly where we're at. Sal Grover, I've
Speaker 3: said it before. You are wonderful.
Speaker 4: Congratulations on your fight and I can imagine it hasn't
Speaker 4: been easy, but you've got the weight of women of
Speaker 4: Australia on your side, so keep fighting and we're certainly
Speaker 4: backing you all the way. Thank you so much for
Speaker 4: joining me today.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's brilliant, isn't cheap?
Speaker 4: Coming up after the break, labor has quietly lowered the
Speaker 4: minimum English test mark to be eligible for some visas.
Speaker 4: What does this mean for our already out of control
Speaker 4: migration rate. I'll put it to my panel Tina McQueen
Speaker 4: and Tanya Mahalic.
Speaker 3: Next welcome back.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Tina McQueen and
Speaker 4: New South Wales Independent MP Tanya Mahalic, kind of both.
Speaker 4: He here we go for another week now, Look, I
Speaker 4: just want to get your thoughts firstly on that breaking
Speaker 4: news at the Australian visa for a Palestinian woman who
Speaker 4: supported the Hamas massacre has finally been canceled. Tony Burke
Speaker 4: making that announcement after this woman's history was exposed by
Speaker 4: The Herald's Sun. You know, Tanya, you got to ask
Speaker 4: how was this woman even considered for a visa in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 10: Well, the big concerning issue is that it took Mikayla
Speaker 10: Kashi and the Liberal Party the Coalition to expose this.
Speaker 11: How many other.
Speaker 10: People are like this woman under the radar that are
Speaker 10: coming into Australia with the same thoughts.
Speaker 11: So well done to the Liberal Party.
Speaker 10: It was their campaign the only reason that Tony Burke
Speaker 10: reacted and finally withdrew the visa this afternoon.
Speaker 11: Is because of the media pressure in the backlash exactly, that's.
Speaker 4: The any reason, absolutely, because otherwise we would not be
Speaker 4: having this conversation because nobody would have known.
Speaker 3: About it, Tina. But why would the proper checks and
Speaker 3: balances not in place yet?
Speaker 12: Again, it's frightening. We don't know how many more checks
Speaker 12: and balances have not been done by the name Mikaela
Speaker 12: cash is. You know she's going to really work hard
Speaker 12: at this and uncover more and more. So the country
Speaker 12: is a little bit safer.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, the coalition, as he said, very very strong on
Speaker 4: this today. Well let's move on now. It's all over
Speaker 4: for the new South Wales Member for Kayama, thank goodness.
Speaker 4: Convicted rapist Gareth Waters resigned from parliament after being found
Speaker 4: guilty of one count of sexual intercourse without consent and
Speaker 4: three counts of indecent assault against two young men he'd
Speaker 4: met through his role as the MP. Tanya, you know
Speaker 4: he wasn't going anywhere. He refused to step aside. Parliament
Speaker 4: was sent to vote on his expulsion this morning, but
Speaker 4: he pulled the pin just before it's finally come to
Speaker 4: his senses.
Speaker 11: Well, I don't know. I think reality dawned on him.
Speaker 10: It's certainly got a very big legal bill as of
Speaker 10: yesterday because there was a cost order against him by
Speaker 10: the Court of Appeals.
Speaker 11: The Chief Justice Anthony.
Speaker 10: Bell absolutely throughout every argument that he and his legal
Speaker 10: team put up. Look, this has been a really terrible
Speaker 10: time for our parliament and I know that I do
Speaker 10: want to make a comment. There are two victims involved
Speaker 10: in this that have suffered greatly throughout the trial, prior
Speaker 10: to the trial, and.
Speaker 11: Throughout this whole saga.
Speaker 10: So I think Parliament has a right to restore its
Speaker 10: integrity and I congratulate both the Premier, the leader of
Speaker 10: the Government and do the opposition on how they managed this.
Speaker 10: They came out strongly, very clear and had throughout the
Speaker 10: last two weeks. Ever since Gareth Ward was convicted of
Speaker 10: the sexual assault defenses and reminded to be incarcerated around
Speaker 10: in custody.
Speaker 11: Bail was revoked and I.
Speaker 10: Mean, you know, I think Chief Justice Santony Bell summed
Speaker 10: it up really well. The people of Cayama will be
Speaker 10: reenfranchised now, they'll actually have an opportunity to have a
Speaker 10: member of Parliament that's not incarcerated in parliament.
Speaker 12: Gareth will appeal, but he's been a protected species for
Speaker 12: a long time by the left of the Liberal Party.
Speaker 12: Don Harmon Gladysbury in particular protected him, so he always
Speaker 12: thought he could do less.
Speaker 3: Should make it clear this is prior to y Yes,
Speaker 3: you know, he's always been.
Speaker 12: And if I'm not going to bash, go like everyone else,
Speaker 12: because there's always three sizes, he's, he's and the truth
Speaker 12: somewhere in the middle. So we'll see the appeal goes.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, he has been convicted.
Speaker 12: B will it appeal, But I probably I know a
Speaker 12: little bit more than I can reveal on this program.
Speaker 12: But I'm looking at all sides of it. But there's
Speaker 12: plenty of people in state Parliament lack integrity. Let me
Speaker 12: tell you. Gareth ben Court has been punished fair enough.
Speaker 10: But well there's no one that's been convicted of sexual
Speaker 10: assault of this, yes, that are in parliament.
Speaker 3: Well, now there's going to be a by election now there,
Speaker 3: so that'll be interesting.
Speaker 12: It'll be interesting to see who runs to see what
Speaker 12: that's right exactly. But because there's a big war at
Speaker 12: the moment with the Nats and the Libs, so that's
Speaker 12: going to be very interesting.
Speaker 11: I think label will win.
Speaker 4: Well, look stand by for that one and another by election.
Speaker 3: Now, look I was flawed by this.
Speaker 4: Labour's quietly lowered the minimum English test mark to be
Speaker 4: eligible for some visas for perspective migrants to prove their proficiency.
Speaker 4: This really annoys me, Tanya, because I think it adds
Speaker 4: to the out of control migration rate that we've already got.
Speaker 4: We've got so many people coming in under labor but
Speaker 4: do no drop the proficiency tests, not the welcome Matt's
Speaker 4: open even more.
Speaker 10: I've got a bit of a different view on this actually,
Speaker 10: so I've got to say, Look, doesn't surprise me that
Speaker 10: Labour's watering down these tests. No, Okay, they want a
Speaker 10: big Australia. They've always been clear about that migration works.
Speaker 10: So them, that's how they win elections.
Speaker 11: That's their strategy.
Speaker 10: But as somebody who I'm the first generation of Australian my
Speaker 10: parents my father arrived in nineteen fifty nine, my mother
Speaker 10: in nineteen sixty and my grandparents soon after. They didn't
Speaker 10: know any English, but they did want to be part
Speaker 10: of Australian society. And what I think the real test
Speaker 10: is does individual want to assimilate into Australian society, or
Speaker 10: do they want to volunteer? Do they want to work?
Speaker 10: My parents as soon as they got off the boat,
Speaker 10: they went and.
Speaker 12: Got a job and they loved and always to learn.
Speaker 12: I mean, you've got the internet, you've got phones that
Speaker 12: translate for you. There is absolutely no excus to lower
Speaker 12: that standard. That's what I'm angry about. I mean, years
Speaker 12: ago it was very difficult for people like your parents
Speaker 12: and grandparents to learn, incredibly difficult, and they work so hard.
Speaker 12: Now is a different story. It's a lot easier. And no,
Speaker 12: if you can't speak, if you haven't learned to understand
Speaker 12: the language, I think you know you've got to raise
Speaker 12: those limits again for those tests.
Speaker 8: I agree.
Speaker 4: I don't think we should be dropping the limits, especially
Speaker 4: right now. We've got a housing crisis, We've got to
Speaker 4: cost of living crisis. We're bringing too many people into
Speaker 4: this country as it is. There's not enough caps on
Speaker 4: migration and this I think is going to make it
Speaker 4: worse now. I want to get your thoughts on this
Speaker 4: and New South Wales Energy Minister Penny Sharp has been
Speaker 4: granted significant powers over future renewables projects. These powers allow
Speaker 4: the Minister to declare priority status on a larger list
Speaker 4: of new energy infrastructure. Of course, Tanya, the Nationals say
Speaker 4: that the blindsided by this that I feel for the regions.
Speaker 3: Why does she need these.
Speaker 11: Powers because she's a net zero zellot.
Speaker 10: It's like, okay, she is made it very clear and
Speaker 10: she doesn't apologize to anyone. She is absolutely hell bent
Speaker 10: on making sure that New South Wales meets the net
Speaker 10: zero targets.
Speaker 11: And they have got some very strict and strong net
Speaker 11: zero targets for bigger concern for me.
Speaker 10: I've got to say throughout this week and being in
Speaker 10: the Parliament yesterday, I voted against this legislation and I
Speaker 10: saw the Nationals separating from the.
Speaker 11: Liberals on the floor.
Speaker 10: But where were they when the net zero legislation came
Speaker 10: in in October twenty three? All of them backed the
Speaker 10: net zero legislation.
Speaker 11: Okay, they finally.
Speaker 10: Dawned on them that it's not actually good for their
Speaker 10: communities in regional New South Wales.
Speaker 11: So I'm glad the Nationals have finally woken up.
Speaker 10: You've got Wendy Tuckama now is resigned from the Shadow
Speaker 10: Cabinet because her community has been impacted by wind farms
Speaker 10: and so forth. But the bigger issue for me is
Speaker 10: how James Griffin, who's the Shadow Minister for Energy, he's
Speaker 10: the protege Matt Kean's protege. Sitting there and not providing
Speaker 10: the details information about this legislation to the Shadow Cabinet
Speaker 10: on Monday is appalling. He was brief the week before,
Speaker 10: he was given a copy of the bill, and yet
Speaker 10: he sat there silently, not saying a word, not prepared
Speaker 10: to inform his colleagues.
Speaker 11: That's outrageous. If anyone should be resigning, it should be James.
Speaker 12: And it is outrageous, and it's going to be consequences
Speaker 12: for his actional lack of it. And he is too
Speaker 12: close to Matt Keane. And I know the people in
Speaker 12: the Liberal Party are living. My phone's got a whole afternoon.
Speaker 12: They're absolutely ropable over this. So there's more to come
Speaker 12: on this. And now the FEDS are involved, the National Fed.
Speaker 12: So as I said, the by election in come is
Speaker 12: going to be very interesting because I think that that's
Speaker 12: going to get their own way on this. I can't
Speaker 12: see a liberal one seed. There's a hot tip for you.
Speaker 3: You don't think the Libs are going to.
Speaker 12: Run no, I think I'll let They'll have to lit
Speaker 12: and that's allowed.
Speaker 8: Okay, wow, there you go.
Speaker 3: All right, Tin Tina with the hot tip again on
Speaker 3: the show. All right again we're going.
Speaker 8: Haven't been wrong.
Speaker 4: You always give us the right advice. So all right,
Speaker 4: we're staying tuned. Tu McQueen Tanya. We've got to leave
Speaker 4: it there.
Speaker 3: Have a good weekend, Thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 4: Coming up, will go to the US where it's D
Speaker 4: Day for Russia and it's war against Ukraine. Plus is
Speaker 4: America about to be burdened by what has been Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris considering another TiAl to the White House.
Speaker 3: Bo Davidson his next.
Speaker 4: Well, it is D Day for the Russia Ukraine war,
Speaker 4: the day Donald Trump set as a deadline for a ceasefire.
Speaker 4: The Kremlin has overnight confirmed US President Donald Trump and
Speaker 4: his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin have agreed to hold an
Speaker 4: in person meeting in the coming days.
Speaker 3: And here was Trump speaking overnight.
Speaker 13: It would like to meet with me, and I'll do
Speaker 13: whatever I can to stop the killing.
Speaker 6: So last month they lost fourteen thousand people killed last month.
Speaker 4: Now this comes hours after US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff
Speaker 4: met with Putin in Moscow, Trump describing it as a
Speaker 4: highly productive meeting where great progress was made. Joining me
Speaker 4: now for more on this is Sky News contributor Bo Davidson.
Speaker 3: Both thank you for joining me.
Speaker 4: Look, if Trump can pull this off, what will it mean?
Speaker 4: And did he get the Nobel Pace Prize? If he
Speaker 4: indeed is able to bring pace to this long running wall, well, Denika,
Speaker 4: I think it will mean that he will be the
Speaker 4: most consequential president of our lifetime.
Speaker 14: I think this has been kind of ramping up now
Speaker 14: for a while that that would be said. Ronald Reagan
Speaker 14: famously said, mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall. And I
Speaker 14: think that what Donald Trump is saying is mister Putin,
Speaker 14: tear down this endless, senseless war. People are dying by
Speaker 14: the day, by the droves, and it's got to stop.
Speaker 14: That's what kind of moment this is. So yes, of
Speaker 14: course he deserves the Nobel Prize, but he's been ramping
Speaker 14: up that for a while. He de escalated India, Pakistan, Thailand, Cambodia, Egypt, Ethiopia,
Speaker 14: Rwanda and the Congo and the big one Israel and Iran.
Speaker 14: So this could be his biggest one yet. It would
Speaker 14: be the first meeting between a US president and Vladimir
Speaker 14: Putin's I think about twenty twenty one. But let's also
Speaker 14: be sober about this. You know, Secretary of State Marco
Speaker 14: Rubio said, there's still a lot of things that have
Speaker 14: to happen before this meeting can take place. But the
Speaker 14: tariff's go into effect, as you said, and the heat
Speaker 14: is on Putin.
Speaker 5: He can do this the.
Speaker 14: Easy way, or he can do it the hard way,
Speaker 14: but he's got to make a decision for his people.
Speaker 14: And I just niqua find it ironic that Democrats would
Speaker 14: have made up this entire story to say that Russia
Speaker 14: helped Donald Trump become president so that what he could
Speaker 14: put pressure on their president to stop their war. I
Speaker 14: don't think so. I think that Donald Trump has been
Speaker 14: made and prepared for a time such as this, and
Speaker 14: I can't see any of their leader at this particular
Speaker 14: point in time who's better suited to adjust this and
Speaker 14: to make peace happen in this region.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, the Democrats are continuing there with their delusions,
Speaker 4: but you're right. I mean, if he can pull this off,
Speaker 4: this would be an incredible moment, not just for America,
Speaker 4: but also for the world as well, So stay tuned.
Speaker 4: We'll be watching very closely. Now Donald Trump's higher import
Speaker 4: taxes on dozens of countries have just come into effect.
Speaker 4: Some are even going as high as fifty percent bo
Speaker 4: obviously when countries around the world are scrambling now to
Speaker 4: respond to this. Here in Australia, our base rate remains
Speaker 4: at ten percent. But what is actually the the impact
Speaker 4: locally in the US. Has its plan been a success
Speaker 4: or are they industry suffering?
Speaker 14: Well, you mentioned, you know summer's highs fifty percent. I
Speaker 14: think India got twenty five percent and another twenty five
Speaker 14: percent for purchasing Russia oil, which is a topic we
Speaker 14: just mentioned. Tariffs have always been a negotiating tactic for
Speaker 14: Donald Trump. They're designed to generate investment, to boost growth,
Speaker 14: to boost jobs, to boost employment. I think that's what
Speaker 14: it's always designed to do. Now we have seen some
Speaker 14: countries retaliate that I don't I want to mention that
Speaker 14: this has happened. Canada, for instance, has retaliated against the US,
Speaker 14: especially with regard to American bourbon, but that's pretty rare.
Speaker 14: Over the next several months, as industries react and respond
Speaker 14: to these tariffs, we could see higher prices. We just
Speaker 14: haven't seen a lot of that yet. The Trump plan overall,
Speaker 14: of course, is to rake in all this billions of
Speaker 14: billions of tariff revenue, which is to offset other taxes, like,
Speaker 14: for instance, an income tax, because tariffs are like taxes
Speaker 14: to us. So if that plan is true and we
Speaker 14: can offset something like an income tax, that would be brilliant.
Speaker 14: And also we could possibly even give rebates to Americans.
Speaker 14: That's another idea that's been floated as well. I just
Speaker 14: think that we're a little too early in this process
Speaker 14: to be able to tell our government does subsidize farmers.
Speaker 14: That's one where we have offset tariffs in the past,
Speaker 14: But we just have to wait and see. I'm personally
Speaker 14: going to remain optimistic about this, Danika. The main reason
Speaker 14: being is that when Trump initiates a tariff, usually a
Speaker 14: country freaks out and comes to the table with something better.
Speaker 14: So let's just take a pause on this because we
Speaker 14: haven't seen the economic downturn in spiral that I think
Speaker 14: a lot of people thought that there would be. Bill
Speaker 14: Maher has acknowledged that, and let's just see kind of
Speaker 14: what happens as industries respond to this. I'm going to
Speaker 14: remain optimistic about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, fair enough, let's say what happens.
Speaker 4: But you're right, I mean, and a lot of countries
Speaker 4: have come to the negotiating table, not Australia.
Speaker 3: Let it be known.
Speaker 4: Now Prime Minister is still yet too have a meeting
Speaker 4: with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: We're all waiting for that one.
Speaker 4: Now, look, bo, I've got to ask you, is America
Speaker 4: about to turn the page and be burdened again by
Speaker 4: what has been Because former Vice President Kamala Harris has
Speaker 4: announced she's not going to run for California governor in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, but it's not ruling out another bid
Speaker 4: for the White House in twenty twenty eight. Good grief.
Speaker 4: So look, we thought we'd take us through the archives.
Speaker 8: Here we go.
Speaker 15: The children of the community are the children.
Speaker 8: Of the community.
Speaker 15: You need to get to go and need to be
Speaker 15: able to get where you need to go to do
Speaker 15: the work and get home. I'm talking about the significance
Speaker 15: of the passage of time, right, the significance of the
Speaker 15: passage of time. So when you think about it, there
Speaker 15: is great significance to the passage of time in terms
Speaker 15: of what we need to do to see the moment
Speaker 15: in time in which we exist and are present.
Speaker 4: But it's still says she is up my spine and
Speaker 4: saying that seriously. But you know, is America ready for
Speaker 4: possibly another round of word salads?
Speaker 3: Uh Anika?
Speaker 14: I like your razy salad, I like wedge, I like
Speaker 14: Bulldorf salad, But I cannot stomach another Kamala Harris word salad.
Speaker 14: It is just too much freaking burden for me to bear,
Speaker 14: for all this country to bear. You know, it's funny
Speaker 14: that she frames her work in terms like leadership in
Speaker 14: public service. She has never led nor sha has she
Speaker 14: ever served the public. If you don't believe me, ask
Speaker 14: any of her supporters name one accomplishment Kamala Harris has
Speaker 14: and they can't do it. And I actually think there's
Speaker 14: a mistake Didnika for her not to run for California governor.
Speaker 14: You know why, because I think she would have actually
Speaker 14: won Californians. California Democrats are dumb enough to elect her again.
Speaker 14: She can't win an American election in terms of the country,
Speaker 14: the presidential election, but she could have actually won the
Speaker 14: governor's seat in California. But think about this, just bigger
Speaker 14: picture for a moment, you have two failed female Democratic
Speaker 14: candidates for president, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. They're both females, right,
Speaker 14: America didn't not elect them because they were females. It's
Speaker 14: because they weren't the wrong females. They didn't have the
Speaker 14: right policies, they didn't have the right communication styles, they
Speaker 14: didn't have the right affability, and I personally that you
Speaker 14: could don't think Kamla Harris is the Democratic candidate in
Speaker 14: twenty twenty eight. I think it's going to be someone
Speaker 14: like a Governor Josh Shapiro, or a GB Pritzker, or
Speaker 14: a Gavin Newsommer aggretchen Witmer. The problem overall is that
Speaker 14: Democrats have a brand problem. They don't have policies, they
Speaker 14: can't campaign on anything other than Donald Trumps sucks, and
Speaker 14: they're going to have to do better than that. So
Speaker 14: I think Kamlas sitting this one out is actually a
Speaker 14: bad move because America won Elector. They're never going to
Speaker 14: elect her, but California actually would have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I think he raised a very
Speaker 4: good point, and I just hope.
Speaker 3: For goodness sake that we are not burdened by what
Speaker 3: has been bo Davidson always lovely to see.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining me, appreciate it.
Speaker 14: Good to see you again.
Speaker 4: And back in a moment with the winners and losers
Speaker 4: of the week, including Life Imitating Us or Once TV
Speaker 4: Superheroes signs up to tackle America's migration crisis.
Speaker 3: Pre mcswen will join me next.
Speaker 4: Well, of course it's that time of the week where
Speaker 4: we sought the winners from the losers, and as always,
Speaker 4: pre McSween from Verb Communications now your winner this week
Speaker 4: Something fun is the scientist from Charles Sturt University who
Speaker 4: analyzed forty five videos of a cockatoos dancing, identifying thirty
Speaker 4: different movies. Would you believe have a look at this?
Speaker 3: Well, they're clever, I'll give them that.
Speaker 16: I think they've got more moves, and they're a bit
Speaker 16: more cocky than those stupid politicians.
Speaker 3: We have more intelligence, I think.
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely more intelligences between them.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a good one. So different to
Speaker 3: end the week. That fine's a bit different too.
Speaker 4: I wanted to end the week with the winner of
Speaker 4: Dean Caine. You might remember him started as the Man
Speaker 4: of Steel in the series Lewis and Clark, The Adventures
Speaker 4: of Superman back in the nineties.
Speaker 3: Well guess what is now joining ICE.
Speaker 4: In the US to support a legal immigration Have a look.
Speaker 13: And for those who don't know, I am a sworn
Speaker 13: law enforcement officer as well as being a filmmaker. I
Speaker 13: felt it was important to join with our first responders
Speaker 13: to help secure the safety of all Americans, not just
Speaker 13: talk about it.
Speaker 4: So I joined up Superman on the tally Superman in
Speaker 4: real life, like imitating.
Speaker 16: Art, I wish we could get him down here to
Speaker 16: sort a few people out.
Speaker 4: Of the great Robot down Dan, please come, But do
Speaker 4: you reckon?
Speaker 8: It's great? It is.
Speaker 3: I don't recognize him at all. I know it was
Speaker 3: the TV one.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, well I Clark Kent, I quite fancied in
Speaker 16: my day, But that one is the TV guy.
Speaker 3: It's not the movie the og, not the og. But
Speaker 3: look good on him. Now, look, no surprises with this.
Speaker 3: Lawyers are tony believe it.
Speaker 16: I mean, in one breath he's telling us he's goin
Speaker 16: a safeguard as keep us keep all the naughty people.
Speaker 3: Out, and then he's letting this woman in.
Speaker 16: And now, of course of visus can but only after
Speaker 16: the press got onto it.
Speaker 3: Let's say exactly and for yeah.
Speaker 16: Of course, and of course they were calling for him
Speaker 16: to resign because you know, what is the vetting process?
Speaker 16: Why are these people allowed to get in? This department
Speaker 16: clearly has an agenda. We had those three thousand people
Speaker 16: coming from Palestine who world they weren't vetted.
Speaker 3: We don't know what.
Speaker 16: Their security clearances are because they're now amongst us. So
Speaker 16: I just find it appalling that in once, you know,
Speaker 16: he talks double too idea talking about security, and none
Speaker 16: of us feel secure anymore. We saw across the bridge
Speaker 16: they're waving Hammers flags and has FLA flags. So clearly
Speaker 16: a lot of people who are supporters of these atrocious
Speaker 16: sort of terrorist groups in him now living here because
Speaker 16: we had such a slap dash sort of.
Speaker 4: Well, look, I just think that Tony Burke was a
Speaker 4: disgrace today coming out late today backflipping. But he only
Speaker 4: did that because he was put under it.
Speaker 3: Of course, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Now I had to give my loser to justinto Allen
Speaker 4: this week this work from home policy. Give me a
Speaker 4: break here she was trying to justify her decision.
Speaker 1: Last week I shared our plan to enshrine working from
Speaker 1: home as a right. Now there's been a huge response,
Speaker 1: particularly online, so I thought i'd take a moment to
Speaker 1: respond to a few of your comments. Great news to
Speaker 1: read when you woke up on a weekend. Hurry up, please, Look,
Speaker 1: I know that there are many who are keen to
Speaker 1: see this right as soon as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well none of them would have been business owners.
Speaker 4: To Sinty, you clearly have absolutely zero idea what it
Speaker 4: takes to run a business. Why would anyone want to
Speaker 4: go into business right now in this country.
Speaker 3: In Victoria in particular.
Speaker 16: I mean, speaking as a business owner, to have this
Speaker 16: government tell me how I can run my business, who
Speaker 16: I can employ and win It's just appalling and I
Speaker 16: just feel like, you know, this is again socialism overstepping
Speaker 16: the mark and it's going to impact on jobs.
Speaker 3: Why would anyone.
Speaker 8: Start a business these days?
Speaker 3: They want to say I work from home. Ir Union's
Speaker 3: got their finger in every pie. Energy costs, the cost
Speaker 3: of doing business right now is too expensive. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Prob We're got to leave it there. Good to see
Speaker 3: you another week down.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining me, appreciate it, Thank you
Speaker 4: for your company. I'll be back seven pm Sunday night.
Speaker 4: Steve Prices next, good Night,