1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders, and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: recording on a wobbical land. Now I somehow manage to 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: build an empire from the garage underneath my house, and 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: I'm here to share it all with you, from the winds, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the mistakes, the challenging times, and the funny moments in between. So, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: whether you're in business already, perhaps you're not in the 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: game at all, Maybe you're just looking for some inspo, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: or you simply just want to hear the tea, this 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: is the podcast for you. If the idea of standing 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: up and speaking in front of people makes your stomach drop, 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: if your hands shake and your voice cracks, and you'd 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: rather vanish into the floor than hold a microphone, this 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: episode is for you, and not in the way that 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: you think. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: I don't want you to think. 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: In this episode, I'm going to convince you that you 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: need to do a TED talk. But I've been thinking 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot about public speaking lately, and I truly think 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: think that public speaking can change your life and like 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: beyond speaking in front of a crowd, and I'm going 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: to get to it now. I don't want you to 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: get it wrong. Yes, I'm a confident speaker, but I 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: haven't always been that way. I think when it comes 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: to public speaking, it is something that you can one 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent grow on and become better at. When I 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: was a lot younger, the thought of speaking in front 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: of a group would terrify me, and I'd be nervous 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and shaking. I think back to my earliest memories of 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, speaking up would have been when we had 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: to do a speech at school. Remember you'd have your 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: palm cards that you'd written at home, with the little 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: colored cards, and I remember I would get up in 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: front of the class and I would feel confident enough 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: to do that part. But then when it would come 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: to the speaking part, you know, my hands would be 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: shaking and I'd be flipping the palm cards over while 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: my hands are like fully shaking. I used to be 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: like that, But over the years, through leading fate, hosting events, 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: speaking to my team, and stepping onto stages in front 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: of hundreds or thousands of people, I have learned something 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: that changed my life, which is the power of finding 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: your voice. Public speaking isn't just about being brave enough 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: to stand on a stage. It's about learning to back 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: yourself out loud. It's about standing in your truth, communicating 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: your vision, and connecting with people in a way that 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: can move them and also it moves you. And the 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: more that I've done it, which, mind you, is only 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: in recent years, the more I've realized that finding your 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: voice quite literally fucking changes everything, not just your confidence, 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: but your career, your relationships, and the way that you 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: see yourself. So if you've ever said, oh, I could 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: never do that, or I hate speaking in front of people, 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: or I hate speaking in front of people, I want 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: you to stick around for this episode because if I 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: can go from my handshaking with my palm cards in 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: primary school to delivering keynotes on a stage, you can too. 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong. Public speaking is obviously not 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: for everyone, and in this episode, I don't want people 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: to think that I'm here to encourage everyone to become 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: a public speaker. But I think the idea of speaking publicly, 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: even if it's speaking up in a conversation at work 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: that you would maybe normally stay quiet in, or presenting 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: something to your team at work, or even speaking up 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: to someone who's maybe done something wrong by you and 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: you're avoiding it because you're too scared. I think becoming 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with that fact and thought and action of speaking 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: up can truly fucking change your life. And I've only 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: had this realization. Well, I've only had this realization recently, 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: but it's something that I guess I've been practicing naturally 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: throughout my whole life. It's not until now, at the 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: ripe old age of thirty two, that I have realized, 73 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: holy shit, me becoming comfortable with public speaking has actually changed. 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: My life now. 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: I did some market research for this episode last night 76 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: in one of my broadcast channels on Instagram. 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Let me Find It. 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I did some polls because I thought this would be 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: insightful for us to know, although it's not in percentages, 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: but anyway, So I did a few polls. The first 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: one was how do you feel about public speaking? And 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I gave everyone three options to answer from. The first 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: one was hate it, won't do it. The next one 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: was neutral, so just somewhere in the middle, and the 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: next one was love it. Okay, So, out of everyone 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: that voted, here are the numbers. Five hundred and twenty 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: six people voted hate it, won't do. 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: It, three hundred and seventeen people. 89 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: Voted for neutral, so almost like half of the people 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: that said hate it, So that's kind of okay. And 91 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: then ninety one people voted love it. So if you 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: just want to compare people that hate it and people 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: that love it, ninety one of ninety one people said 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: love it and five hundred and twenty six said hate it. 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: So isn't that just wild that you know the majority 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: of people hate the thought of public speaking. 97 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: I didn't think that the numbers would be so low 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: on the love it. Yeah, when you read it, I 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: thought that were going to be kind of similar. That 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: was actually that actually shocked me. 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that are we weird? 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: The majority of people hate public speaking? Okay? 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: So then I did a second poll, and I did 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: if you hate public speaking, do you wish you felt otherwise? 105 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Because I was curious to know, like, do you hate 106 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: public speaking and that's that or do you wish you 107 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: felt differently? 108 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: There was two answers. 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: It was yes, I'd love to be able to feel 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: confident speaking publicly, and then the second one was no, 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm happy to not take part in doing so. 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: So for the. 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: Yes answer, I'd like to feel more Confident. We had 114 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty nine people vote. 115 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: That's age number. 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know people hate public speaking, but they 117 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: want to be comfortable with it. And then for people 118 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that said no, I'm happy not to take part, one 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five. 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Okay. So the willingness is there and the want is there. 121 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: And this is so interesting. 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: And I did these last night when I was laying 123 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: in bed, as I do. And then I'm like to Aj, 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: I need to do something to help all of these people. 125 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to become like a confidence since 126 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: speaking coach. 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: Were you were you good at public speaking when you 128 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: were a kid? 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: Well, let me get to that, Zander. 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I'm spoiling it. 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get to that. 132 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: So then I did one final post in my group chat, 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: and this was a question and they could fill out 134 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: an answer. So I said, if you are comfortable sharing, 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: what is it that you don't like about public speaking? 136 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: And again, like there is just a theme here and 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like people can like people's responses, so I'll read it 138 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: from the So this one has forty three likes. The 139 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: sound of my own voice being looked at from head 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: to toe and judged for my appearance. 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: So it's like, that's so sad to me. 142 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: And then the next like top rated comment was the 143 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: thought of saying something incorrect or pronouncing a word different 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: to others. 145 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: The next one like I understand that. 146 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 147 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: The next one is being the center of attention and 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: everyone looking at me. 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I kind of like that sometimes sometimes. 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: The next one was fumbling, embarrassment, getting anything wrong, and 151 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: public humiliation. Another one like don't like people looking at me, 152 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: or being the center of intention, everyone looking at me 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: and stuffing up my words? 154 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: Attention what you said? Center of intention? 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 156 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, center of attention. 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: So these are all the themes, just being charged and 158 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: everyone having eyes on you, the idea of being challenged 159 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: from an angle I didn't anticipate, and then not knowing 160 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: what to say, I get nervous and my voice shakes 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and I can't catch my breath, even though my brain 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: says it's fine and doesn't care. And so there's so 163 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: many comments like this, and this is just this is 164 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: so eye opening to me because I guess I never 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: really think of this, and like I maybe I already 166 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: do it, like right here on my podcast, But it 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: just makes me want to inspire people to become more 168 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: confident in themselves because I feel so lucky and privileged 169 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: that I don't feel any of those feelings. But it 170 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: makes me want to be able to help others to 171 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: feel that way too, because I think in my life 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I have learnt to become this way. Like no one 173 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: is born like full of confidence. Like you learn to 174 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: become confident, right, Yeah, like sere when you're a little 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: kid and you have extreme confidence because you don't have 176 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: any insecurities or you're not overly self aware. And that's 177 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: why we see kids just running around in a tiara 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: and too too and. 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: They're like whoah, and they don't care. 180 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: But as we get older, we build our insecurities and 181 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: that fear of other people looking at us or judging 182 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: our body, like we're not born with that. 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: I always believe, I truly believe this is that I 184 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: actually think that we trick ourselves into being confident. Yeah, 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: and that's how that's the road to actually achieving confidence. 186 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: But you do need to try things to get that. 187 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: And the thing is you said that we trick ourselves 188 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: to be confident, I one hundred percent agree, But we 189 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: also trick ourselves into being insecure. 190 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're born, and let's say. 191 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: You're a three year old kid and you're running around 192 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: with a tiara and gum boots and you're singing songs 193 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: like you don't give a shit because like you haven't 194 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: built any awareness or fear of judgment from others. And 195 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: then as we get older and we become more aware 196 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: and we listen to other people in our lives, vibes, 197 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: like it all builds up in our head and then 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: as a result, we can become not confident within ourselves. 199 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, you can. 200 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: You can teach yourself to become confident, and you can 201 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: also teach yourself into being insecure. 202 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had people say to me in the past 203 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: because i work in media and I've you know, I've 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: been on radio, I've been on podcasts. Like I'm used 205 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: to being on a mic. It's it's not that big 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: of a deal for me. But I've had people be like, 207 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: I've been too scared to kind of like talk to 208 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: you because I either they say, I'm really arrogant, which 209 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: is which is really funny. All they say, I've always 210 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: viewed you as someone who's really confident, and like I 211 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: want to be that confident and I'm like, oh, that's 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: so crazy, because for me, I don't feel like i'm 213 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: because on my inside, I can get really nervous and 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: I do feel insecure. I do try to on the 215 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: outside appear like I'm in control and appear. 216 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: Like I am confident. 217 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: You make it, you make it. 218 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 4: It's just really interesting how that perception changes. 219 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: Fake it, do you make it? 220 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Like I know that's a cliche old saying, but fake 221 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: it to you make it, And I don't want anyone 222 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: to get it wrong. Like I'm recording this at the 223 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: time where this weekend I'm going to do a ted 224 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: X talk, So that's why I thought this episode was 225 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: perfect timing. 226 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: So I've been prepping for that, and I don't want anyone. 227 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: To think that it's just like easy of course, Like 228 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: before I go on stage, like I can feel my 229 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: heart sinking and then my heart's starting to pound, and 230 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: like I get on stage and my voice will always 231 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: be that little bit shaky at the start because you're 232 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: doing something that's like completely not normal to do in 233 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: your day to day life, I guess, but I truly 234 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: think that being comfortable with speaking up, like just speaking 235 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: up in general, and that doesn't mean doing a ted 236 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: X talk on a stage in front of hundreds of people. 237 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: It could just be like speaking up in general, finding 238 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: your voice in general. It can truly change your life. 239 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: And I was talking to AJ about this last night 240 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: because I knew I was coming to record this episode. 241 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: And AJ is someone that hates public speaking, Like if 242 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: him and I were to ever have a wedding, like 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we could, because how the hell would 244 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: he do. 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: Vows, But he's someone else who I look at and 246 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: I think, wow, he's such like he's so confident, Like 247 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: he's so like self assured. 248 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: When you tell me he's scared of public speaking. 249 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: Then we try to get rid of the pod, He's like, nah, 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: I can't do it exactly, but I think that's so crazy. 251 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I know, And it can be some of the most 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: confident people, Like if anyone has ever met AJ, like 253 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: obviously you've met AJ, or if anyone listening has met AJ, 254 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: he's like hey, hey, going like he's so confident and 255 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: like funny angel leader. Yeah. But then like when it 256 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: comes to us trying to get him on this pod, 257 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: he's like. 258 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no no no no, like. 259 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: And he'll go all nervous and shaky, But I think 260 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: so much of it is a mindset thing, and I 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: think if you just always are speaking out loud and 262 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: saying in your head even like no, I hate public speaking, 263 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I hate speaking in front of a crowd of people, 264 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: like you are always going to feel that way. Like 265 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: you said, you know, fake it till you make it. 266 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: If you just begin putting yourself out there. And I'm 267 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: not saying go and do a big ted talk or whatever, 268 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: but just even the smallest of things, like even practicing 269 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: talking out loud to yourself to begin with. If you're 270 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: not confident speaking up in front of other people, if 271 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: you just make those small tweaks and start practicing talking 272 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: or speaking up more. At work, maybe there's team meetings 273 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: that you stay quiet in. If you use your voice 274 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: in those moments in quiet rooms at work, and you 275 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: use your voice, you will become so much more confident. 276 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: When it comes to confidence, it's not something that you 277 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: can build overnight. It's something that you have to work 278 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: on every single day. And at the end of the day, 279 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: we are the only people responsible for our own self confidence. Sure, 280 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: we can get inspired of others, which is amazing, and 281 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: I only hope that I can inspire other people to 282 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: be more confident when it comes to using their voice. 283 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's up to 284 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: us as individuals to make ourselves be more confident. And 285 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: it truly is a fake it until you make it 286 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of scenario. 287 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: I was given a piece of advice once from someone 288 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: who said, if you're really nervous getting up to public 289 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: speak or to speak in front of a group of people, 290 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: and you're worry that people are going to feel your 291 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: nerves or like recognize that, the advice was to take 292 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: that power back and acknowledge that yourself and say, like, hey, everyone, 293 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm really nervous today, but I'm really excited to speak 294 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: to you all, or however you want to put it. 295 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: And I've done that before, and it really. 296 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: Does change how you feel the. 297 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: Way you present yourself because you've taken back that power immediately. 298 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: So if you ever know, jumping up to speech to 299 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: a group of people or make a speech and you 300 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: are like feeling really nervous. 301 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: About it, put it out there like people aren't going 302 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: to judge you, people are going to back you. 303 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: In that exactly right, And I think like to those 304 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: comments that I got which By the way, anyone listening 305 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: that participated in my little market research last night, thank 306 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: you so much. But to those people saying like they 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: have a fear of like people looking at them or judging, 308 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: like being judged by the people watching. Anytime that I 309 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: have done a talk on stage in front of a 310 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: large crowd, yes it's intimidating, but you've got to remember, 311 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: like everyone's sitting in that audience, for example, this weekend, 312 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: everyone sitting in that audience at my TEDx talk this weekend, 313 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: They're going there because they want to see people speak. 314 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: They're not going there because. 315 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: They want to sit there with like a spectacle and 316 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: wait for someone to fuck up. They're wanting to hear 317 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: what people have to say and be inspired by them. 318 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: And I also think if you're speaking in front of 319 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: a crowd of people, a majority of those people in 320 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the crowd would probably never have the guts to get 321 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: up and do what it is that you're doing on 322 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the stage. And so it's very easy to think like, oh, 323 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: they're going to see me fail, but like they probably 324 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: would never do what you're willing to do, and they're 325 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: not going to be sitting there going, oh, look at 326 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: her kind of thing, like they're gonna be sitting there 327 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: being like, wow, look she's up on the stage and 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: doing this. 329 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: I would never do that. 330 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Or maybe you'll even inspire them with your confidence or 331 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: even just your guts to get up and do something 332 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: that is uncomfortable, Like no one is sitting in the 333 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: crowd anywhere waiting for your downfall. And I even think 334 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: to like fate and when we do our marketing meetings 335 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: or like our team meetings, or if someone's presenting something 336 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: to us, like none of us in our office, and 337 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: I can only hope that no one in everyone's workplaces 338 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: when you're getting up to present something in front of 339 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: your team, no one is sitting in there like waiting 340 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: for you to fuck up, Like everyone is there in 341 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: support of you. And you know what, even if you 342 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: do stuff up like that is fine, Like we're human 343 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and like I've got 344 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: this talk that I'm doing this weekend, and I might 345 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: stuff up one or two times as I'm talking, but 346 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: you can always like pause, take a moment, and pick 347 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: back up, you know where you left off. So I 348 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: know it's so difficult, and I don't know what it 349 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: is but I feel so strongly about wanting to help 350 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: people become more confident using their voice, Sander, But I 351 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: don't have enough hours in my day, but I wish 352 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: I could be like a confidence voice coach to encourage 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: people to, you know, not feel scared. And the thing 354 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: that makes me so sad is like reading all of 355 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: those responses, the number one fear out of everyone that 356 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: left those responses is what other people will think. It's 357 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: not about themselves, it's about like what others might think, 358 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: which is just so sad to me. And even like 359 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, people looking at my appearance again, like that's 360 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: not really how you feel about you, it's you worrying 361 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: what other people will think about the way you look 362 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: like it's just so sad, Like people not being confident 363 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: makes me feel so sad, and I wish I could 364 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: individually help everyone to become more confident. And I guess, 365 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: you know, I've got my podcast here and I have 366 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: my social media, and I'll do a little video every 367 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: now and then where I guess I'm trying to be 368 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: like encouraging or positive or whatever it may be. Then 369 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll see people in the comments being like yes, like 370 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: thank you for saying this, like I really needed to 371 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: hear this today, and every time I do that, I'm like, fuck, 372 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: I feel like this is my calling and I guess 373 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: I think of fate too, and maybe by me having 374 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: fate and you know, our size range that we have 375 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: and making people feel inspired, like I can only hope 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: that that in itself will instill confidence in other people 377 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: that if they can find an outfit that they love, 378 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: then they'll feel a bit more confident, you know. But 379 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: I wish that there was just something I could do 380 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: to individually help every single person in that group chat 381 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: last night that gave me the feedback because it makes 382 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: me sad because I feel like there's so much more 383 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: to life than people get to experience because they're being 384 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: held back by insecurities and fear of others. When oh 385 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: my god, like if everyone just fucking forgot about it. 386 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: And I know it's not that easy, I know it's 387 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: so hard, but I feel like everyone could just unlock 388 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: their full potential if they just fucking let go of 389 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: that fear of judgment or what other people might say. 390 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think maybe like one of the things that 391 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: like everyone can start because like you said, the biggest 392 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: fear is like judgment from other people and what people 393 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: think of you. I mean, I think the first place 394 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: to start is for maybe everyone to you know, start 395 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: gassing everyone up, you know, start getting even if it's 396 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: just like one compliment a day or you're pointing something 397 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: out in someone. 398 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: That they do really good. Just those little changes that 399 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: you can like direct at people every day that. 400 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: Changes everything, you know what I mean, That can change 401 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: the way that someone thinks people view them. 402 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: Yep, I couldn't agree more. 403 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: And the thing with public speaking as well, like the 404 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: first keynote that I ever did, Like obviously I've spoken 405 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: in front of audiences for a really long time. Like 406 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: I started my YouTube channel in high school, and yeah 407 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that was me alone. And you know i'd be able 408 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: to find one of my very first YouTube videos. I 409 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: should find it and post it online. But I was like, 410 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: hi everyone, my name is Brittany So and this is 411 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. I love makeup. Like I was shy, 412 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have the confidence that I have now. 413 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: But people would maybe look at someone like me and go, wow, 414 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: like she's just full of confidence. But I wasn't always 415 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: this way. Because it's something that you can slowly work 416 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: on and learn and grow into. And then obviously I 417 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: went through my whole influencing era, which again put me 418 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: in front of different audiences and showing up online and 419 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: posting on social media like along with like speaking in 420 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: front of crowds, like putting myself out there on social 421 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: media one hundred percent has added to my self confidence. 422 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: And even being like slammed. 423 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: By people on social media over the years and having 424 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: people say horrible things about me on social media has 425 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: also added to my confidence in a weird way, because 426 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: you become more resilient. But when it comes to actually 427 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: delivering my keynote speeches, the first one that I ever 428 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: properly did on my own, like a long talk, was 429 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: only like two and a half or three years of 430 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: go now, And even since then, I've done a bunch 431 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: more over the last three years, let's say, every single time, 432 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: I have gained so much confidence in not only public speaking, 433 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: but my whole life, Like every time you do something 434 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: that challenges you and puts you out of your comfort zone, 435 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be a keynote speech, obviously, 436 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: it can just be speaking up in a room that 437 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally you then walk out of that room, 438 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: and you have grown. When I step off a stage 439 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: and every time like it's night and day my first 440 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: keynote compared to the one I did most recently, I 441 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: can't begin to explain to you like the personal benefits 442 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: that I get from doing that. I walk off that stage, 443 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: I feel more confident in my relationship with AJ. I 444 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: feel more confident in my decision making as like a 445 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: business owner. I feel more confident in my decision making 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: in life. I feel more confident about fate as a company. 447 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I feel more confident an I feel more confident in 448 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: dealing with challenges. By putting myself out there on a 449 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: stage and doing something that's petrifying, I then feel more 450 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: confident if I ever have to deal with staff conflict 451 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: at work or having a tough conversation like By putting 452 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: yourself outside your comfort zone and doing something even if 453 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: it scares the shit out of you, it benefits you 454 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: tenfold in ways you wouldn't even begin to imagine. And 455 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I know it's very easy to just always say, oh, 456 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't speak up in rooms. I'm too scared of 457 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: what other people will think. If you can put yourself 458 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone in any possible way. It 459 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be doing a keynote speech. I can 460 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: guarantee you your life will just explode because every time 461 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I talk on a stage, I become more confident in 462 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: my business, my decision making, my relationship, my friendships, and 463 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: every single aspect of my life from simply talking in 464 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: front of a group of people. 465 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: Take my word for it. 466 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Public speaking has changed my life. So look, maybe your 467 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: version of a keynote. It doesn't have to be a keynote, 468 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: but maybe it could be something as small as like 469 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Xander said, starting by giving people compliments and making them 470 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves, because when you compliment others, I 471 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: feel like it does something good for you too. 472 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: Maybe it could be speaking up in a team meeting. 473 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: Maybe it could be building up the confidence to say 474 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: something to someone who's been upsetting you lately. Maybe it 475 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: could be building up the confidence to ask for a 476 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: pay rise. It could even be starting up a little 477 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: podcast with your friend, or starting one up by yourself 478 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: just for fun. Public speaking doesn't always have to be 479 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: a huge keynote. You can do it in small ways. 480 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: The more that I have spoken, the more I've heard 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: and witnessed myself grow into the woman that I am today. 482 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is WU will with 483 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: me or whatever, but like becoming confident in using my 484 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: voice has changed my whole body life. So that's my 485 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: challenge to you today. Go and do something that puts 486 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: you outside your comfort zone. And you know what, if 487 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: you do it, send us a DM on Big Business 488 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Podcasts and tell us about the thing that you did. 489 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: It can be so small, it doesn't have to be massive. 490 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: Just bloody back yourself. And you can also think of 491 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: me anytime that you're doing something that's maybe going to 492 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: scare you, or you need to speak up to someone, 493 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: or you're doing a presentation at work or UNI or 494 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: wherever it is, and if you're feeling all the nerves 495 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: and you're shaking and your heart's racing, think of me 496 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: in that scenario, because like, I'm there backing you one 497 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the way. But that's all the time 498 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I've got for this keynote speech of Big Business Today. 499 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: I've got to end my episode with a tip of 500 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: the week. You know what, I'm going to be lazy, 501 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: and the tip of the week is not a tip, 502 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: it's a challenge, and I've already told you what the 503 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: challenge is. Do something that puts you outside of your 504 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: comfort zone, and Xander and I are your support network 505 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and coaches. If you do something, I don't care what 506 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: it is, send us a DM on Big Business podcast 507 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram and tell us about it and tell us 508 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: how you felt afterwards. Because I'm doing my ted X 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: talk this weekend, I'm going to be nervous before I 510 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: go on stage. I'm the first person talking on the 511 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: day because I asked to be, and again like that's 512 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: a weird thing to do, but I was like, can 513 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I please go first? Because I just want to be 514 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: the first one to do it, and anyone else will 515 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: be like you're a fucking freak, like why would you 516 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: want to be the first one to go? But I 517 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: know that if I do that, like it's gonna make 518 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: me feel a bit of adrenaline. I'm gonna feel a 519 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: be like, holy shit, I'm the first one pressures on. 520 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Then I'll get up there and do my thing and 521 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: walk off and feel a million bucks. And that's what 522 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: life is all about. Honestly, I can't stress it enough. 523 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: So that's my tip of the week. 524 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: It's not a tip. 525 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: It's a challenge. Do something that is putting yourself outside 526 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: of your comfort. 527 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: Zone, and if you film it, make a real I'll 528 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: repost it exactly right. 529 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: So thanks for listening to this week's episode of Big Business. 530 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I hope you're feeling inspired and send us DM if 531 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: you do do the challenge, and remember to chase after 532 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: your dreams as if they owe you money.