1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: What do we do rather with kids who spend more 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: time playing call of duty than they do in the 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: real world, and they can't distinguish. A shopping center is 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: not the place to take up grievances with other kids 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: they don't like. As you know, a fifteen and sixteen 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: year old were arrested overnight. Police seized extendable battens and 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: several thousand people in Marion shopping Center yesterday afternoon. We 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: left traumatized. In the wake of the Bondai Junction attack. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Countless such stories from shopping malls in the US would 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: have been front of mine for people there. I imagine 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: now brawls between kids happen all over the place. They shouldn't, 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: but they do. I can recall a huge fight in 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: rund or More one afternoon about fifteen years ago. I 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: reckon it was now. It started around me, not because 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: of me. I just found myself in the middle of 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: it as kids came together and started throwing punctures. I 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: got out of it pretty quickly. Police and security flooded in, 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: the kids scattered, and that was that. But in the 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: heightened world of twenty twenty four, and particularly after Bondai, 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: these things initially take on a more sinister feel, and 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: the police response was seemed to be anyway exactly what 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: it should have been, given the lack of information, the 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: fact that weapons were in the place and extendable battens. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: For goodness sake, I mean, how do you get hold 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: of one of those? I wouldn't have a clue, but 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: they had two of them, a couple of kids allegedly, 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: and they've been arrested now to face court today. Frank Pangelo, 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Upper House MP on the line, Frank, good morning. 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Make you youth crime? Where do we go with it? 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, this is the issue now and I think this 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: is something that needs to be addressed by the current government. 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: There is a spiking youth crime around the country. We've 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: seen it in the Eastern States and we are seeing 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: it here. And you know, this brazen robbery attempt at 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: a shopping center yesterday which led to the incident of 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: shutting the entire shopping center down is worrying. And all 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: credit goes to westl for what they did. They had 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: no real choice, they had to react very quickly. They did. 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: All credits to South Australian Police for getting there very 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: quickly and being able to address the situation there, But 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: it's the wider issue of youth crime that we need 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: to start tackling, and tackling hard. Now, these two young 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: or these teenagers today have been charged with allegedly causing 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: the incident yesterday with a fray and possession are appearing 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: before the youth court today. Now I'm just wondering whether 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: the youth court is the appropriate place for these two 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: alleged offenders to be appearing court. Well, when you consider 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: the gravity of what happened yesterday, you know, two people, 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: I mean, I know that's what the charges are. But 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: when you consider that, you know, the shopping center had 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: to be shut down to people were injured, people were panicked, 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: they weren't sure what was going on. Businesses lost money 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: as a result of that. And yet these two alleged 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: defenders are just going to walk into the youth court. 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: And as we know, Matthew, it's a revolving door. You know, 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: they'll go in, they'll come out, you know, somewhere down 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: the track, will get a slap on the wrist. Now, 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: the possession of batons is an interesting one, and how 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: did they get them? Well, quite easy, you just go 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: online they're available online. You can buy them off eBay 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: or Amazon or whatever. 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: They're legal here, aren't they. It's illegal to have one. 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Yes, they're illegal around the country every state. They are 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: a prohibited weapon and they carry a penalty of up 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: to two years jail or twenty thousand dollars. Fine, well, 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: let's see if they get into that in the youth court. 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: And you know, if they found guilty of that. Again, 69 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's the control of that weapon that needs 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: to be looked at as well. Look, there are many 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: things that can come out of this now after it's reviewed. 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: But again, as I was saying, youth crime is getting 73 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: out of control around the country and particularly in South Australia. 74 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: We know that it's on the way up and something 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: needs to be done there. The penalties in the youth court. 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: Should it have gone to the youth court? Not sure 77 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: it should have. And also the position of these prohibited weapons. 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Can kids. Can somebody make a decision in our system 79 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: that a fifteen and sixteen year old can be tried 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: as an adult. Can that happen? 81 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: Well, Look, there are provisions in certain areas, certain crimes 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: that you can do that. In this case, it's probably 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: because of the nature of what they were charged with 84 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: that makes it difficult. But again I think the Attorney 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: General needs to have a hard look at that. And 86 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: as I said, this is the way that youth crime 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: is rising in our state. We need to get tougher 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: on these kids, not start pussy footing around about whether 89 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: we should lift the age of criminal responsibility from ten 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: to fourteen. How about the ones that are already past 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: that age and have continued on a life of crime 92 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: that need to be cracked down upon. 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, Frank, So will you be lobbying 94 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: the government for any of that. 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: Well, we only have one sitting day this week, which 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: is on Thursday, because they're going into estimates, but I'll 97 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: certainly be throwing the question at the Attorney General this week. 98 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for your time this morning. 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mathie. 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Frank Pangelo, Upper House Independent MP. The teams arrested now 101 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and charged over the incident at Marion Shopping Center yesterday. 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Fifteen and sixteen year old from Mitchell Park and Adelaide. 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: We're arrested, charged with a salt Frey aggravated robbery. Police 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: seizing two expandable battons which are illegal, A Frank says 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: they come with the financial penalties and a prison term attached, 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see what happens.