1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I can't go on, so another one would be silver Chairs. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: I was thinking to himself, holy shit, I remember buying it. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: That was the one thing I didn't want to talk about. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Hey, the new album Sunday Sadness. People that don't know 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: you and Shane you worked at the Titans together. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Ah, you guys got it down. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 3: Welcome back to another week of backstage. If you haven't 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: already liked and followed us on Spotify Podcasts and iHeart app, 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: please go and do so. Your support is forever grateful 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: and appreciate it. Matthew John's Awayne Parrie for one more week. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Today on the show We've Got Amy Shark, which we 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: recorded just before he left. I just wanted to tea 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: ever on up. Let you guys behind the curtain of 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: what's about to happen. In the first couple of minutes, 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: we teed up Amy, well, we teed up Dad to 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: ask Amy a question that's going to provoke a certain 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: sad storyline in Amy's life, a bit of an uncomfortable 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: situation which she's going to make up, and a bit 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: of a stitch up on Dad. So I hope you 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: enjoy that. It's about time somebody got Matthew back with 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of a stitch up, because he is 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: forever putting ship on us. So I hope you enjoyed 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 3: this episode and enjoy some ship being put on Matthew. 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: John's very subtle. This family, we deal in subtly, very well. Amy, 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: you go on, good. 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Mate, I've been great. Yeah, what about you guys? 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: We have our moment. We've had the two children return 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: to the nest. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Which would like, why wouldn't you? I just turned up 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: here and I'm not leaving either. 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: I know there's a there's a spare room for you 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: out there is you can stay. 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Ye, feel free me with a good time. 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: That's nice having the boys back. You know, we're just 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: always things haven't changed since you were fourteen fifteen year 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: old kids. You just go downto your room and god 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: damn it, what are you doing in there? I don't know. 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're practicing for when dad's like, you know, because 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: he's starting to get old, when he starts to get 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: to that point where we need to be the one 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: taking care of him. What we're so we're doing that. 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: You're in training and you're going to be fine. 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Shane going, he's good, have gone, well busy. Yeah, it's 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: funny in recording this. I mean the Gold Coast Titans, 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: who you your former employer, had their best win in 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: the history of the club. Sixty six six was it? 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: What was the score again? 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: Sixty six six the Devil's number. 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Of course they would get that too, like anyone's going 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: to score that is them. 51 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Now for people that don't know, I mean you and Shane, 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: you worked at the Titans together. 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you meet there? 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: No. It was funny because Shane, like it was actually 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the second time I like kind of piggybacked off wherever 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: he was working, because like I was kind of the 57 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: loser that had no no real like structure in life. 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Like I think like even for him to date me 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: was a risk because I just have so much baggage. 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: So and he was just like so pro about everything, 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, finished school, went to UNI, double degree in finance, 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: business and whatever, and then I'm just like a nine ball. 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: But he Yeah, So he got the job at the Titans, 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: and then somehow I ended up weasling my way in 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: into the community arm. But it was funny because we 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: would always have lunch together and people didn't know we 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: were already married. So they were like, there's something going 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: on with those. 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: Two, like, you know, workplace guy. 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: It was hilarious and then yeah, word got out there 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: we were actually together. So yeah, I really do owe 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: a lot to that club though, because they were really supportive. 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Of me and to Shane. Last time we chatted a 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: man too, Didney champion your cause or hazard? And continues 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: to totally Oh yeah. 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean if he wasn't in my life, I wouldn't 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: be doing this because I I had given up, you know, 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I could only take so much. But Shane was like, 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: we're not stopping and yeah, so it was very persistent. 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Before we talked about the new album Sunday Sadness and 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Beautiful Eyes. Oh yes, will still on that. We'll keep 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: it on the family front. Last time I spoke to you, 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: you had a new dog, puppy. How's it. How's it going? 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, that was the one thing I didn't want to 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: talk about. 86 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, sorry sorry. 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: He got here by a car, so oh god, yeah, 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: sorry about that. But he was good, like he was 89 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: a good dog like the years that I had him. 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is. It's a tarpebreaking. 91 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Petsa well, you got one upstairs she has me, well, yeah, yeah, 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: can only imagine going off that. Then twenty twenty three 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: was a big year for you, obviously doing a lot 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: of TV work. How do you enjoy doing the TV 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: work as opposed to music? 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: I can't go on s I'm like you expecting me to? 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, Dad, that was why. That was just taking 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: the piss that. 99 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Because nothing happened to the little family funny thing for you. 100 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: Sorry. You know what you did so well? You were like, oh, Amy, 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: I expected off these two funk which not you. Okay, 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: I was. 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: They put me up to it. I know you've got 104 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: what I get. You've got a nervous smirk. 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: Did you see that as well? 106 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: I thought a nervous smirk. 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: I thought this is actually going to go bad because 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Dad was beginning to half smile, and I was like, oh, 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: this is just going to. 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Be awkward, nervous smirk and I get the same thing. 111 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: That that that pause when I asked you that question, 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: that really five seconds My acting is getting good? Mate, 113 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: felt like a decade. 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: That was I knew it was happening, and even I 115 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: felt awkward. 116 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Sorry matter, I'll. 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Tell you what what a year? Twenty twenty three worst 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: fear apart from the Dog Dying. 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: That was like fifteen years ago or something, so I'm 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: past it. 121 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: You really? Oh a gold single? Can I share it yours? Yeah? 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: Appeared front page of Rolling Stone Australia, supported Coldplay stadium 123 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: shows and won a LOGI the Graham Kennedy Award for 124 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Best U Talent. Fantastic. That's it. That's a great honor, 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: the Great Grain Kennedy. 126 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Insane. Actually, like that night was so funny because like 127 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: I obviously there's actual actresses and actors up for that award. 128 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, ah, mine's just like a funny little entry, 129 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I just didn't expect. So 130 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I performed that night and I had my band there 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I was like, oh, we just got 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: to like because we're going to go and play some 133 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: pool and have a couple of beers after and I 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: wasn't going to stick around for the rest of the 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: logis And They're like, you got to just hang back 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: while the category at least announced, because you've got you're 137 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: going to be up on the little thing. So I'm like, hey, guys, 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: just hang two seconds. We'll just wait till this is done. 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: And then we'll bounce, so waiting there, and it was 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: it was different to Arias because some like Arias sometimes 141 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, sometimes you have this hope and this 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: belief and like, but with this one, I'm like, no. 143 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Sort of not your thinking. It's industry. 144 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: You don't have a speech. Ready to get out of 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: there and let the real people win their awards. And 146 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: then when my name was called, I was like, holy shit, 147 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: like and I was just so proud. 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: So proud to win. 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: Do you enjoy the TV work? I mean we saw you, 150 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: We seen you on a few different things, Celebrity Apprentice 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: and so on, so I thought to distray and Idol, Yeah, 152 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: you and Kylie got a great chemistry on there. Do 153 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: you really enjoy it? 154 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I do. I hated Celebrity Apprentice, and I'm okay to 155 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: say that I just really didn't like, like it was 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: just like so hard like and. 157 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: It was in what sense like that, Oh just. 158 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I love that it was to do with charity and 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that's why did it, but just the just the challenges 160 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: and being produced because it is that sort of style. 161 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: Very much like reality television very much. 162 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: You're the ones stuck here because you were the most 164 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: don't stand with the restaurant most normal. 165 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: I think it's because I was an intruder. So to 166 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: be fair, these guys have been there for like six 167 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: weeks and I just come in on like the sixth week, 168 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: fresh as, not getting emotional about anything like, And I 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: think that's what was annoying to a lot of the 170 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: producers because they just wanted me to cry something, And 171 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I was like, why would I cry, Like, I'm not, Like, 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: what do you. 173 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Mean if they would ask? 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: You just try so many tactics to get me emotional. 175 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: They bring your dog hut, yeah, they bring up my. 176 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: Dog and all the things. Anyway, it was, it was fine. 177 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun and it got me, 178 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: you know. I guess it let people know that I 179 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: was interested in TV because wasn't long after that that 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Idol came about, So there was a bit of a 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: strategic move, I guess. And I love I love Idol. 182 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think I would, but I really love it. 183 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: How difficult is it amy Because you're a nice person. 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: When you see a person there, they've had their hopes 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: and dreams. Obviously they're a single child, because no one's 186 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: had the guts to tell them they can't sing, and 187 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: they believe they're headed for superstardom and they open their 188 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: mouth and they think they're flying and they're an awful 189 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: How hard is it to just smash that dr. 190 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: How many ways can you let someone down easy? It's 191 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: like constantly what I go through with all the producers. 192 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I need some more, like maybe just 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: a few more years. You've got something like because I'm 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: like I can't do it, you know, I can't do 195 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: the Kyle like rubbish leave you know, go away, babe. 196 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: And as funny as that is, and look, some people 197 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: just want to be there to say that they were. 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: They got there and they were on the they were 199 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: in front of us, and and they actually know they're 200 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: not that great. Like some people know that. But then 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: there are some that they really truly believe it, and 202 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: I can't be the one to crush their soul. But 203 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: I also can't say yes. So it's like because people 204 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: think I'm nuts. So yeah, there's just different ways that 205 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I kind of you just navigate. 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: You just touched on Kyle. What has there been any 207 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: funny Kyle Sandland's moments on the job. 208 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh, there's never not because he's on on, on screen, 209 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: off screen, back in green rooms. He's just like people, 210 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: there's so many like like, there's people that really hate 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: Kyle and then there's people that absolutely worship him, and 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: it's I just I've learnt so much of him, you know. 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: I remember when I first took the role and I 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: was talking to him about it, and I'm like, I'm 215 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: really nervous about like television, because that's when you know 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: it's open slaughter, you know. I think you even said 217 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: this to me when we last hung out, about turning 218 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: off to it and just being so focused on your 219 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: tight knit family or your friend group. And as soon 220 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: as you do that and don't care about anything else, 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that's when life becomes fun. And that's sort of what 222 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Kyle was saying. He was like, switch off. Do you 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: do your job, enjoy it, enjoy it, and then just 224 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: really make sure that you're happy in your life and 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: your personal life. And as soon as you do that, 226 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: like the best of you comes out. Because I just 227 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: don't read anything anymore. Nothing gets to me. And it's 228 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: taking a long time to get there, but man, it's 229 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: it's so freeing when you're just like, I don't care 230 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: I'm just going to be myself on this show. If 231 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: it works, it works, If it doesn't, it doesn't. And 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever people think about me, I know I'm a good person. 233 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: I know I know who I am. So and Kyle 234 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: just knows who he is. You know who you are, 235 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: And as soon as you figure that out and it 236 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: all connects, it's like, oh this is easy now. 237 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Yeah, he really doesn't care what anyone 238 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: He really doesn't. It's almost laughable. 239 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't care what he eats either, man. And it's 240 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: not really frustrating to me when I get my shitty 241 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: little salad waiting there and I walked past and he's 242 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: just devouring a whopper and I'm just like, enjoy that, buddy. 243 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah you get what do you get more nervous for? Initially? 244 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: Did you get more nervous for like your first day 245 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: on Australian Idol or like a first concert? 246 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh? No, I was really nervous for IDLE because everyone 247 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: had done it, Like the first season was Harry Connick 248 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: Junr and Meghan Trainer and Kyle and Harry and Meghan 249 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: had done American Idol and Kyle had done Idol Australian 250 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: Idol for forever. So I really was feeling the imposter syndrome, 251 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Like on another level, I was like, what am I 252 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: doing here? This is I feel like an idiot, Like 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. And got through the first day, spoke 254 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: to Kyle, spoke to Meghan, Harry and the producers, and 255 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: they're like, you're actually doing really great. You just need 256 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to lean into what you know. Don't think you need 257 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: to be Harry or Meghan or Kyle. Ye like, we've 258 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: got you here because your route to where you got 259 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: to was different and you'll bring something different. So as 260 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: soon as I just was like, threw away the scripts basically, 261 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: and because that's what I love about Idle. There's no 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: heavy scripts. No one's in my ear feeding me what 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's good, which is scary but also good. 264 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: So once I was like just trusting myself in whatever 265 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I feel, let it out and just try and articulate it. 266 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: And I've just gotten better at that. As you do 267 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: with television. You're like, you have to just get better 268 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: with your words and how to Yeah. 269 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: It's almost like you've got to stay within yourself. You've 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: got to forget that the cameras are there. Yeah, because 271 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing worse than saying, Okay, what should 272 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: I say here? 273 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can see that, and you can see 274 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: when you're trying to like piggyback orf what someone said, 275 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: or not be true to yourself. 276 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: It's Harry like Harry Conneck Jr. I mean, god has 277 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: had a vast career. I could see that. He and 278 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: Kyle like oil and water. But what is good? 279 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh, they really didn't get along too there. He was 280 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: so great to me, honestly. He was lovely and to 281 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: the point where I kept apologizing when I would say 282 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: no to someone, I'd be like, it's going to be 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: no for me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then there 284 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: was one time where I didn't say it and he goes, hey, 285 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: you didn't see sorry. That was cool and I was like, Okay. 286 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: He's like, you don't have to apologize, like you know, 287 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: and he was really sort of a bit of a 288 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: voice of reason and I learned a. 289 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: Lot from him. Coldplay. You supported Coldplay on their in 290 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: Perth with the stadiums. 291 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, little upcoming band. 292 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: What was Yeah, look, they're doing their very best. 293 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: You said, you're like charity work that I. 294 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Got to show them the ropes of Australia. 295 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: Did you enjoy it? Were they good guys? Because you know, 296 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: I read all these music books and I caught up 297 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: with a friend yesterday, McK grossman, who's arguably austra his greatest. Basically, 298 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the dynamics of a tour and he 299 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: was saying about the great great bands tour with one 300 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: that you had to keep away from. Yeah, I would 301 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: cold Play. Were they good? Were they generous? 302 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's really sad. I didn't get to meet 303 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: any of them, but they they did come into my 304 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Green remind to get the red Eye. But then my 305 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: team was like, they came to see and they gave 306 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: you these big bouquet of flowers and a nice card, 307 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: so that the card got to me eventually. But yeah, 308 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I had to leave, but I watched like the first 309 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: bit of their set and just to know that when 310 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: my when it was all happening and my booking agent 311 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: was talking to management and everything, they were like, yep, 312 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: so everyone's agreed and you've got the green light, but 313 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: you just got to wait till Chris and the band 314 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: give you the green light. I'm like, that's so cool, 315 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: even though if it's a no, I'll hate the band forever. Yeah, 316 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: so that's that's shit. But if it's a yes, they 317 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: they know they actually listen to my music and they 318 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: take the time to you. 319 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: Know, how does how does that work? So if you're 320 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: if you're the main act, do you approve? Is that 321 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: like standard you always approve the supporting act? Or do 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: they get into contact with who they want to support them? 323 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Or for a band as big as cold Play, I 324 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: mean even for me, there's a list that get presented 325 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: to say these are the band slash artists that wanted 326 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: that to put forward for support. You know, they want 327 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: they want it. So that's what happened with myself, and 328 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm guessing like heaps of other artists just got put 329 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: their coming to Australia. So a bunch of agencies put 330 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: forward their people, their artists, and then it's up to 331 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: their team and the band. I guess to be like, yeah, cool, 332 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: this makes sense. 333 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: It's pretty cool that you were picked. Like, I wonder 334 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: who else, I wonder who you beat out? Yeah? You 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: know what. 336 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: Got him? Yeah, it's funny. Amy though, like music is 337 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: littered with artists, American artists or obviously artists coming out 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: here and going, oh, you know, and just basically leaving 339 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: it up to the record company. So I just put 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: the support band and it being disaster. One of which 341 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: was when Whitney Houston came out in the eighty for 342 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: I Want to Dance with Somebody World Tour. She came 343 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: out here and she just said, I don't care, he's 344 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: going to be support. Just picked someone. The record company 345 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: picked John Farnham. Anyway, she hated John Farnham because basically 346 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: for the first four shows the crowd was just screaming 347 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: on care on care for John Farner. I know, and 348 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I know that I was creaming, and she she sacked him. 349 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: Oh my. The other one with the Kinks, iconic British band, 350 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: they came out here and they know who support band, 351 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: and they picked the Angels, not knowing the Angels. The 352 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Angels one of the greatest Australian live bands of all time, 353 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: theatrical and again they hated. They marked out. 354 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: What's his name the leads. 355 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: Doc Neeson, and but Doc was and Ray Davies the 356 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: leads Theer and the Kings was a well known asshole. 357 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: He would mark out on tape on the on the 358 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: stage you're not allowed to move outside that square. So 359 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: then Doc would ignore it. So then they'd go to 360 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: the sound system and turn the music, turn the volume 361 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: down on the system, the PA, they'd affect all the lighting, 362 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: anything to sabotage. 363 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Seriously. Yeah, it's yeah, I think like because it always 364 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: it's a small community like music. You know, artists talk, 365 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: even internationals. We all end up either supporting someone or 366 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: like the cold Play thing, like and sharing. Like we 367 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: all talk in one way or another, and when you're 368 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: an asshole, you will get found out, you know, because 369 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: it's just too too small. Like if you're going to 370 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: like ye do little markofs on stage and like try 371 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: and sabotage, it's like you'll be added. 372 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: Ray Davies is well known as probably the tightest man 373 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: in music history. They said he was so tight he 374 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: used to be able to peel an orange in his 375 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: pocket just to not share it. 376 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I get it. 377 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that went straight over my head. 378 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: The new album Sunday Sadness, firstly the title do you 379 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: suffer from the Sad Sundays. 380 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: In a big way? Maddie, Yeah, I'm like, it's I 381 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: don't know, it's been forever, like even as a kid, 382 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: like I would be like, I'd be so happy, and 383 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh my god, at school tomorrowrow, Oh 384 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: my god, Like I just don't want to go, like 385 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: and for so many different reasons. And then in my 386 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: adult life it's just ticked over and it's just you 387 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: start thinking about like family and like and then there 388 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: could be like some weird show like in a Current 389 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Affair or a sixty minute or something that's about some 390 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: illness or some family who's going through it, and I'm 391 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: just a sobbing mess. Like for some reason, I'm just 392 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not like that. I'm not that 393 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: type of girl. But on a Sunday, I'm weak. I'm 394 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: like my weakest. 395 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: Do you have anything on Monday? Like, is Monday a 396 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: busy day for you? Typically? 397 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: No? I love Mondays now because I'm no. I used 398 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: to hate them because i'd i'd have work, an actual 399 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: job ninetel five that I have to show up to. 400 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: As a musician, I'm all over the place. Yeah, I'm like, 401 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: not very rare unless I'm on tour. Even on tour 402 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: you sleep sleep in so but also I know nothing's happening, 403 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: and I know Lisa is sitting here but I'm like 404 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: even on a Sunday, Sony unavailable. So I love working 405 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and I love Monday morning. Yeah, Monday morning, let's fucking go. 406 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: It's funny like a Sunday. I reckon two things at play. 407 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Number one is just the algorithm of your life that's 408 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: been taught. Is then you know, happy, happy Sunday afternoon 409 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: hits in your now your school the next day and 410 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: tips over it. And the other one is you know, 411 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: what goes up must come down Fridays, you know, Friday, 412 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: from lunchtime, you just peaking, you starting to peak. Saturday, 413 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: you're up, and all of a sudden, Sunday. 414 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the hangover. 415 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: Just get drunk on a Sunday, the dog unfortunately. So 416 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: I'll have a few in the afternoon. 417 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: That's all you have to do, Okay, but then but 418 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: then your Monday will be Yeah, have another drink. 419 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, just keep drinking. 420 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: Pick up. 421 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: You used to say, Matthew. As a child, you would 422 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: see your dad's dad's dad. My grandpa used to be 423 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: a coal miner, so he'd get up early Mondays and 424 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: he'd be working all the way. And Sunday apparently used 425 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: to be a real angry mess. 426 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: Because because he worked dog watching the coal mine and 427 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: so he's his first shift started midnight Sunday night. You 428 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: talk about your world crashing down. 429 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: There, you talk about a Sunday. 430 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: I just to wonder why Ma was so angry on 431 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: a Sundays ago? What is going on? He just keep 432 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: out of his way. I get it now, going down. 433 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: You're going down a hole for five days. 434 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: We'll have to send you. We'll have to send Gary 435 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: your album because yeah, yeah. 436 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: You beautiful, beautiful eyes. Awesome song. Did it did it come? 437 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: Did it come easily? That song? You co wrote it 438 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: with Kid. 439 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: No so that one kid Harpoon was loving me lover okay, 440 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: and that that was a lot of fun because we're 441 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: in LA and I literally was just top of my 442 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: head whatever was coming out, and it's and we were 443 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: both happy with it. Lyrically melodically. He had just come 444 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: off the back of working with Harry Styles, so he 445 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: was very hands on with actual organic instruments and drum 446 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: like you'd go and sit on the drums and stuff, 447 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: and I'm used to people making beats and doing it 448 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: with just like really electronically, and so he yeah, it 449 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: was really great working with him, and then Beautiful Eyes 450 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: I wrote when I was on the regional tour and 451 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it's my favorite that I've written because the 452 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: guitar riff. I was really proud of writing that riff 453 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: because I hadn't written anything in a while and I 454 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: was like, ah, I think I'm starting to suck and 455 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's scary because it's like this 456 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: is my job, Like I need to be able to 457 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: write into that riff, fell into the melody, wrote the 458 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: song and the rest of the tour was breeze because 459 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this song's going to be so good. 460 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: Okay, the riff did you fall into it? Or did 461 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: you just drop down from the sky. 462 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: A bit of a bit of magic, a bit of 463 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: lightning strike and a bit of just sometimes you hear 464 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: something you're like, oh, that's cool, and then you stick 465 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: with it and the excitement's there, so you're like, oh, 466 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: there's something in this sound and the slide that I 467 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: sort of did, and then and then the melody, it's 468 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: like it's like one big thing that happens and you're like, 469 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm definitely onto something and then you just stick with it, 470 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: and then you kind of work it out without knowing 471 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: you're working it out, and it's the best feeling. And 472 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: that's the addictiveness of songwriting. It's like drugs. It's like 473 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, I'm just feeling it right now. 474 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: A lot of slipless nights are once it gets into 475 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: the psyche and you're trying it, you're trying to solve 476 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: the puzzle to the end of it. 477 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Well, I just can't not if I know it's good, 478 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like the like my phone will 479 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: be going off and I've said to shame before, please 480 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: don't call me right now. I'm trying to record this 481 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: because and if I don't do it now and he's now, 482 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: he's just like as soon as I keep hanging up 483 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: on him, he knows I'm recording. 484 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: I could take that bit of that too. Yeah. Sometimes, 485 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: you know, I've said before this, how house could be 486 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: burning to the ground, and she'll say, Cooper, did you 487 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 2: impact the dishwasher? 488 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: She's horrible, Yeah, so annoying, so dreadful. She's a horrible person. Yeah, Yeah, 489 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: she just holds too much power in this house. We 490 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: can't get her out on songwriting because we had we 491 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: had Nolsey on the podcast earlier in the year, and 492 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 3: he said, you have a lifetime to write your first album, 493 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: and then after that you have three months. How hard 494 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: is it now that you're further into your career to 495 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: continually write, come up with new songs, new albums. 496 00:24:53,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, he's right, because I was so ready 497 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: for Love Monster, Like I was just like, had so 498 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: many songs, you know, and then when it becomes your job. 499 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: I think that's why I really liked getting idlers, because 500 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I felt like I had a job again. So when 501 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I had moments in the hotel by myself, I'd be like, oh, 502 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I actually feel like writing, because like when you don't 503 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: have another job or another outlet, your job is to 504 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: just wake up and write songs. It's like that that's 505 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: not how I work, Like I need to be like 506 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: living or on the road or you know. A lot 507 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: of Cry Forever was written when I was touring Love Monster. 508 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: So I've always been like an album ahead. And that's 509 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: why when people when COVID hit, everyone's like, oh, you 510 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: must be writing so much. I'm like, not, really, really, 511 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: what's there to write about. We're just sitting We're just 512 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: still so but I that's how I get through things. 513 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: And I've had such a colorful life where I don't 514 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: think I'll ever not have something to vent about or 515 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: something to put a magnified glass on and dive into. 516 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: And there's still so many issues that obviously with me, 517 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: So I'm just always writing. The hard bit is to 518 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: know once you're a little poisoned in the industry and 519 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: you accidentally learn all the tricks, like of, well, the 520 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: chorus should hit earlier, or the song, yeah, the formula. 521 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I wish I didn't know that, And a lot of 522 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: the time I try and get that out of my 523 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: head because yeah, the way the way music is right 524 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: now is there there could be a formula and there 525 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: are all these little tricks, and I just it's the 526 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: trick is to not listen to that and to just write, 527 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: try and write from your gut and you, yeah, just 528 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: your instinct instincts, And so that's what that's the wrestle. Now. 529 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I know I've always got stuff to write about, yeah, 530 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: but it's the wrestle of making it a successful song, 531 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: which even going out to say I want this to 532 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: be a successful song will hurt it. So it's like 533 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: you're just mind yourself the whole time. 534 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: Somebody, I've got to it's really funny. 535 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly, And you look like such a tool 536 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: when you're like, I've got to smash its tru does that. 537 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: She gets here and goes on the family podcast. You 538 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: guess I've got something for you. It's really going to 539 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: make you laugh. It really is a great joke. And 540 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: I'll straight away to look at the boys and just go, ye. 541 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: Let her get it makes us well, we we intentionally 542 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: don't laugh because we know all she wants us to do. 543 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: Guys. 544 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: Sorry, one more question right now. It's terrible. She she 545 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: deserves extra big huggers. I leave you'll get from a 546 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: question for you. A dad was telling a story to 547 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: other day James Cameron when he wrote Terminator used to 548 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: take MdeR May just to get the creative juices going going. 549 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: Not sorry, not saying that right now, not saying that 550 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: you do that, but have you ever experienced that in 551 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: the industry, people got weird quirks in order to get 552 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: the creative juices going, like whether it be part or 553 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: things like that. 554 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely been producers that, especially in La Weed 555 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: is such like it's like weed is like just breathing 556 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: normal air to a lot of people. Yeah, I don't 557 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: want to out anyone in particular, because they'll probably be like, 558 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: what are you saying that on podcasts for? But I 559 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: guess for me, I don't. I when I look at 560 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: people who go sober, I think, damn, like I need 561 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: a red or a couple of beers or something. But 562 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm also I guess it's been blessed with I know 563 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: when to stop, Like I don't need to write myself off, 564 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: but I do enjoy writing while drinking. It's kind of 565 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: like it's kind of like, like I say to Shane, 566 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know how you go watch the Foot 567 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: and you're like a couple of beers and you like, 568 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: that's fun for you. I'm like that, Like for me, 569 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: writing with a drink is so fun. 570 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: And it's left you lose that self conscious you know, 571 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: like you're writing? Is this good? You just have just wrong? 572 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can sort of loosen up a bit and 573 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: say things I might not always say, and then and 574 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: then the next air I can decide if it's too much. 575 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: It's funny you say that about everyone has different stimulus 576 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: and certain drugs and alcohol and things like that sometimes 577 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: will stimulate now the student vice first listen, I listened 578 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: to Sorry. I read an interview with a really I 579 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: don't think which one, was an iconic music producer and 580 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: they were talking about drugs. And he took him into 581 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: a room, took him into you know, his sorts, his studio, 582 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: and on one side of the studio all these gold 583 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: records and he went, seal those gold records, that's heroin. 584 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: Gave me those And what he means is like artists 585 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: that would use and heroin, And he said, because it's 586 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: a creative drug. Then he pointed to an empty wall 587 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: and he said, see that empty wall. He said that 588 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: cocaine did that. 589 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yes, so I got to take heroin. Yeah. 590 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: Not a great message. 591 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: Again, but I really like traces of a British sound 592 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 2: that go through a song and an album. And I 593 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: picked that up Amy in this album. Maybe maybe I 594 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: tell it. It reminded me of Amy. I remember when DMA 595 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: has brought out an album The Glow and Stuart Price 596 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: produce that Stuart Price was he done Madonna? There was 597 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: New Water, pet Shop Boys Killers, And when I first 598 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: heard it, I went, oh, I can hear that. I 599 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: can hear that British sound that just just that traces. 600 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: I heard that in songs off the album. I suppose 601 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't consciousness. Is that the influence of a of 602 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: a kid heroine sound in Heroin? 603 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's I mean, I guess. I guess it's 604 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. Like I think that's why I called 605 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: it Sunday Sadness. Is like it just so happened that 606 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of the songs were 607 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: me really sitting in the darkness of it all and 608 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: just letting it all out like I usually do. But 609 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like anything you do, like a lot 610 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: of you just get better. So this this album in particular, 611 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: like I love it because it's so much more guitar 612 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: heavy and it's just fun. It's just fun like playing 613 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: and working, working shit out and just it just feels. 614 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: More real, you know, just fatiguing is it? 615 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah it can be. And then like there's 616 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: a song two Friends and that's really sort of pop 617 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: punk style and that was totally different where San de 618 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: Jong the producer, just sent me the music. He was like, 619 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: I've just made this and I think it sounds sick 620 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: and I'd love to see if you could, you know, 621 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: write something to it. And I just happened to be 622 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: on that night and to remove the guitar and for 623 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: me to not have to work out the guitar real first, 624 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: I just listened to it and I was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 625 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: and it just came out. So I was like, oh, 626 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that's cool, like and I love doing that, you know, 627 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: just listening to something and another side of your brain 628 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: opens up and you just write differently. 629 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: Do you look back sometimes at what you've just done 630 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: and when you know, a week or two late a week, 631 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: get a little bit of distance and go, fuck it, hell, 632 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: where did that come from? I'm a genius, but you 633 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's like, oh man, where did 634 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: that come from? 635 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? It was funny. We were somewhere the other day. 636 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I was with a friend in a cafe and I 637 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: said hi, I came on and she's like ah, I 638 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: said hi. I was like, ah, like fuck, it's a 639 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: good one. She's like okay, still goes hard like be kicked, 640 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh yeah, this song really really rocks. 641 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 642 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think you have to otherwise I can't 643 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: be one of those people that's like not awards mean nothing, 644 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: and this means nothing and I just do it. But 645 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: it's like, no, I want you. You're lying, like you're 646 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: just straight up lying. You don't want your music to 647 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: be heard and by heaps of people. And like maybe 648 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I look maybe back in the day when it was 649 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: like I don't know, it feels like it was more pure, 650 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: like back in like the seventies, sixty seventies whatever, like 651 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: rock and roll, and but not anymore. It's all like, 652 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: are so fake now, like you just have to admit it, Like. 653 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: Just admitt it's just a minute when you get these 654 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: people and they gown. Now I just want to remain 655 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: in an indie band. Well there's a reason you're an 656 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: indie band. Yeah, because she's just not that. 657 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: No one enjoys flatting with fifteen people. I don't care 658 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: who you are, Like I mean, maybe there's a time 659 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: and place for it where it's fun, but not forever. 660 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I don't care, Like like there's 661 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: been people before that say to me all the time, 662 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: like you know, awards me nothing, And I'm like, that's 663 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: because you haven't wont any Like that's honestly usually said 664 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: by people who. 665 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: Honest to be up on stuf that award. 666 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I tried for so many years. I needed this recognition. 667 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: I needed it Otherwise I just feel like maybe this 668 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: isn't what I'm meant to be doing, like I needed 669 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: it to be able to keep writing. 670 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny that Dad's agreeing with you, because 671 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: every year that the logis come around, he always says 672 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: that he who he goes, who wants a LOGI care? 673 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: I never I never say that we won about four 674 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: or five of the footy hair back in back in 675 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: the day, but I never have Yeah, you yourself? 676 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 3: Never? 677 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: Nah's who do I need to? 678 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't know you Hamish and he can get one? 679 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: What's the matter with me? Seriously? I saw the other 680 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: day Hamish got an o AM for making people smile yellow. 681 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: Where's where's mine? Why didn't any get one? 682 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: I think we know? 683 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's outrageous though, because you have 684 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: been you've been on fire for many years on the tips. 685 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: Well not ye not consistent consistently Amy's talking. I thought 686 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 3: you might not have watched his Channel seven show when 687 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: you would have. 688 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Fit into this family like really well, like yeah, you 689 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: guys have really like got that dark humor, and I 690 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: think it does. 691 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: Get quite dark, particularly but over a few drinks. So 692 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: the boys walk up and I'm sitting watching. I can 693 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: hear it. I can whispering. They've caught me again, Me 694 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: sitting watching songs on YouTube, just with a singularity on 695 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: my cheek. 696 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: BJ Thomas, J Thomas, rain drops keep falling on my head. 697 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: That something always cries to it. 698 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: And he once you play another somebody does Somebody wrong song. 699 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: While you're listening to the waves crash, yeah. 700 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: Waves crash, crying, chirping. 701 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: It could be the heroine. 702 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: There's that too now amy thing we want to do here? 703 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: When did you pick five songs that really impacted you, 704 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: changed your life, will put you on a course. Okay, 705 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: what have we got? Okay, this dog moment again? 706 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: That is so crazy. How you expected me to just 707 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: do that joke and then keep keep keeping there. 708 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: I was speaking to myself, Holy shit, Nah, I was 709 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: going to pull it up. I just did. 710 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: I was going to let it go for like five 711 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 3: minutes and just watch you just not ask a question 712 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 3: for agent. 713 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, I was speaking maybe I should just maybe I 714 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: should just exit this interview. 715 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Good, Okay, that's brought me some time. So I'm going 716 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: to say, what's up for non blondes? 717 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 2: Why that song? 718 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's the first real song I think I remember 719 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: playing in my household. 720 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: Yep. 721 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: My mum and dad were obsessed with it. And also 722 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: hearing a woman's voice like Linda Perry's voice isn't perfect. 723 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: It's like I've got some it's not Mariah Carey. Yeah, 724 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, what a what a song? 725 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: Like what a voice? 726 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 2: Got heart? Yeah? 727 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: It does, it's got heart. And I was really lucky 728 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: because I grew up listening to really good music because 729 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: my parents were young when they had me, so there 730 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: was some cool records being played. Another one would be 731 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: Silverchair Tomorrow. I just think again, it was like hearing 732 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: something that wasn't like pop, because when you're at school, 733 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: it's like always whatever it was, whatever was on the cartoon, 734 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: whatever was on like the Cereal packet or whatever, Backstreet 735 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: Boys and whatever. And Silverchair was like, oh wow, this 736 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: is like Daniel's voice was so raspy and cool, and 737 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: I was sort of just learning guitar and I just yeah, 738 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: I just really loved that sound. 739 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 3: I love the range of because when I was young, 740 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 3: I obviously just listened to kind of straight lines, like 741 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: I used to like straight lines, but then when you 742 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: go into a dive of Silverchair, the range of the 743 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: songs that they've got, it's insane, like. 744 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: It really is. 745 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: It hits every part of the spectrum. 746 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 2: Like Van do Parks is one of the greatest music 747 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: producers of all time. He produced most of the Beach 748 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: Boys album when they did I'm just trying to think 749 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: he did. 750 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: Was it Neilon Ballroom, Diorama, Diorama? He did? 751 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: Well, that was Jack favorite son, Jack Diorama. There's a 752 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: documentary on it and it's amazing. Van Dyke Parks said, 753 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: I class Daniel John's he said, I put his intelligence 754 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: songwriting alongside the genius of Brian Wilson. 755 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, he said. He's incredible, Like when you 756 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: go through freak show Neon Ballroom, like it's just like 757 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: he's he's a mastermind man. 758 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: Greatest view. Like when you remove yourself for a little 759 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: bit from Silver Shed, then a song comes on the Radioah. 760 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: Remember Bono once saying they asked him in some way 761 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: what you know about you know best best songs? And 762 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: once one year or it was twenty twelve or something, 763 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: twenty eight, two thousand and eight, he said the best 764 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 2: song this year was released by an Australian Beck and 765 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: Silver Chair the greatest view. 766 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's pretty And that was after like like 767 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: miss You and Year two thousand and like big songs 768 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: like and it's like how do you keep going? Like 769 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: I think that's like I think another song would be 770 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: from Blink one it too. And when I think about 771 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: the bands, I was attracted tools because they kept they 772 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: could back it up all the time like a hit. 773 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: It's like, man, who could do that? Like in Silverchair 774 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: did that? And I remember hearing damn It for the 775 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: first time and just that just that real edgy sound 776 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: where you know, Tom's voice was so nasal and and 777 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: just that punk energy of I don't care. And I 778 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: think that's where everything started to shift from for me, 779 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: from you know, hanging with the girls at school and 780 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: being like all into Spice girls, but deep down I 781 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: really just loved I loved more emotional songs and angrier songs. 782 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think another one, what have I done? 783 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: You've done? Silver Chair, what's up? What's up? 784 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: And Alanis Morissette, Oh yeah, I think like Jagged Little 785 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: Pill was I remember buying it, and I was underage, 786 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: and I brought it home and I left it on 787 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: the bloody kitchen bench, which I shouldn't have should have 788 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: taken upstairs in my room, and mum saw had a 789 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: warning thing on it, and it's like, I mean, shit, 790 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: my mom was nineteen when she had me. I can't 791 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: believe I was so under the thumb. It's like, bro, 792 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: But and she made me take it back and I'll 793 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: take it back, so then got my friend to burn it. 794 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that whole album. And then there's 795 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: one particular song she did called Everything, and the first 796 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: lyric is I can be an asshole of the grandest kind. 797 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, that's the best songwriting ever. 798 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: To be able to like open a song with that. 799 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: I was like, she's incredible. 800 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: She's just go back, take me back for one second. 801 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 3: Sorry you just said something. Did they back in the day? 802 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: They might still do it? I don't know, but do 803 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: they used to have like ratings on albums, So you 804 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 3: had to be over a certain age to buy an album. 805 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they had a warning thing. Yeah you had 806 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: to like but like, I think it was very rarely 807 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: done because if you bought a few at the same time. 808 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: They just yeah, it was the emergence very much of like, yeah, 809 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: gangster rap and things like that. 810 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: Were all swearing, and you know, I remember trying to 811 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: buy the Coolier album and I wasn't able to. 812 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, remember the old days, gain on the video shop. 813 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: Tried to get a Rob Loo movie called My Tutor 814 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: and it was ready anyway. I took it home and 815 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: made me take it back, and then a few months 816 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: later Dad hided it out and sat and watched it together. Really, 817 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: it was pretty it's pretty good. It's funny you say that, 818 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: is that like? 819 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: Okay? I guess it's different for guys like to watch, 820 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: because man, there was nothing worse like sitting there and 821 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm be sitting there like with Mum and dad, and 822 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: it'd be like something gnarally happening on screen and you're 823 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: just like and it's like of a girl who's your 824 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: age and shit's happening, and you just like that. 825 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 3: You know they're thinking that, you know. I remember I 826 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: went and bought Saving Private Ryan when I was younger 827 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 3: for us all to watch. But I accidentally bought Shaving 828 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: Ryan's Private and we sat there. The thing was, we 829 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: didn't know, until like forty minutes into the film, when 830 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: there was an Augie going on. We were like this, 831 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: there's Tom Hanks and was going. 832 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: Stop Tom, to stop it, leave it on, he'll appear soon. 833 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: Give it a go. 834 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good. 835 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 2: It's funny. 836 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: Amy. 837 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: When you said four non blondes off the top, immediately 838 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 2: in my head I went to a Lanas Morrissette, and 839 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: I thought I nearly asked the question about because very 840 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: similar sound and both very ballsy women. 841 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 842 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you seen Jackie Little? That's it was a 843 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: stage show, wasn't it, Jagie Little pilled on Broadway? 844 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, it's funny you say that because I just 845 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: did my first movie, I did You with and Natalie 846 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: batting Wait was in it as well, and she was 847 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: talking about that because she was in it. She was 848 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: in that. Oh really and she said it was really heavy, 849 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: like super super heavy. I never saw it. 850 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I saw it. It's on Foxtel at the moment. 851 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: They they've done it a live production of it. Yeah, 852 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 2: it's not the David Berne one. You see the David 853 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: Byrne concert where he's up there doing it on stage. 854 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: Just take a word for it's very good. 855 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, well you're the best. 856 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: I've seen the David Byrne one. That's amazing. I saw 857 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: that in New York. 858 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: You saw it there? 859 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that much. 860 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: It was incredible a bit and I didn't know what 861 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: to expect, but like I was just like you know 862 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: when you just it feels like you're in another dimension 863 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: and you're just like, what am I watching here? It's brilliant, 864 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: but like because it's all played at like live, it 865 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: was just playing everything live. 866 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 2: You were the African sand He's a serious genius. It's 867 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: funny because Talking Heads when they first hit the scene 868 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: in the in the early mid eighties, I remember going 869 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: what is this with Psycho Killer the oversized suits? But 870 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: you listen to it now, it's incredible. 871 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it still holds up. 872 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: It certainly does. 873 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: What is that? 874 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 2: Five? 875 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: We had? 876 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: Five? The four? One more to go? Thanks Jack Tomorrow everywhere? 877 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, pick one of. 878 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: Your own if you imagine, h Okay, I'll go with 879 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: I'll go with mister Higgins just because I remember seeing 880 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: Missy play on the Goldie at the Trocadero, which is 881 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: no longer, but it was so long ago and I 882 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: was playing acoustic as well, like early early on in 883 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: figuring out that I liked writing songs and if I 884 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: could do it, if I even had a voice. And 885 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: I remember seeing her play and I can't even name 886 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: a song. There's so many songs like from Scata where 887 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: I stood, and like she's just got a plethora of 888 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: the special two Special two amazing. But this was this 889 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: was the sound of White like because this was really 890 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: early on for her and for me to see another 891 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: female artist just like basically playing solo. She had a 892 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: little band. I think it was like her brother playing 893 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: for her and it was really stripped back and she 894 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: was so nervous, but she was so great and so 895 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: so real and I was like, oh man, like that's 896 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: I think, That's what I want to do, like I think. 897 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: And she also didn't sound like Mariah Carey. She had 898 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: the Australian sound to her and it gave me a 899 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: bit of inspiration to like to give it a go. 900 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's very I've seen her live actually at Sydney 901 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 3: My Music while in Melbourne with a couple of my 902 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: old teammates and like very unassuming, like it was like 903 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 3: four rugby league players kind of in the roll of 904 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 3: this mister Higgs concept. Everyone's kind of looking at us 905 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 3: that good music. Yeah, but it was outstanding. It was 906 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 3: really good, like great voice and it was just, yeah, 907 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: you're right with that Australian sound, like she's got that. 908 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 3: She really leans into that Australian accent in the music, 909 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: which you don't typically. 910 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: The book can pull it off. I sound wretched, like 911 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: I just need to put a little bit of spin 912 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: on mine. But like her, she's a I think that's 913 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: why she's such an icon. It is because it doesn't 914 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound bad with her, you know, she's kind 915 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: of she's that's her trademark too. 916 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 2: I saw Turna Rena a concert once that was fucking 917 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: very good. Yeah, Ta ren should we go a night? 918 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: She's man, she was. 919 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. She did a version of Cheap Wine. 920 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 2: Cultures was Cheap Wine. Wow, she just bet the best 921 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: cover I've ever heard. Give it a go coop. Sometimes 922 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: in a little bit of culture into your life, So 923 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: I did. 924 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 3: I went to see He's constant mate like. 925 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 2: Audiences. Amy, we said before about you standing up, you 926 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: walk on stage of support act. I imagine there's a 927 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: support act to be intimidating seven times because primarily they're 928 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: not there to see you someone else. Do you walk 929 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: out the crowd and look and go scin and go Okay, 930 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: what have we got here? 931 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: M Yeah, You've just got to like surrender to the 932 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: fact that it isn't your crowd. And with I mean Coldplay, 933 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: it's such a big I mean it's a stadium, so 934 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: you don't it's hard to gauge anything. Kind of it 935 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: sounds bad, but you kind of don't care. You can't 936 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: really see a face in particular, so you just go 937 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: and do the best show you can. And they're such 938 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: a happy band, so their fan base was so welcoming. 939 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: I just felt really welcomed and stuff. But I've been 940 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: on tours with like there's a bank called Bleachers, who's 941 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: Jack Antonof. He's a big producer, does a lot of 942 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: Taalie Swift and he's got this really hardcore following. Like 943 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: they're like and and I remember just like not sure 944 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: if they were into me or not. So I just 945 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 1: worked out a little bit of banter and a little 946 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: bit more talking on stage to like win them over 947 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: at the start. And and I think that's how I 948 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of started doing what I do now, which is 949 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: like just talk a bit of shit at each show, 950 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: because that kind of taught me to like win over, 951 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: to try and try and get his fans to become 952 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: my fans, you know, and it's it's it's it's a 953 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: great learning thing to go and do performance. Throw yourself 954 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: to the wolves, see what happens. 955 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Like, have you spent much time in Europe? 956 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: Amy performing? A lot of time? 957 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a few big tours there because they 958 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: in Germany there was an ad there was like a 959 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: perfume commercial and they used a song of mine. They 960 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: used a door. So as soon as that happens, your 961 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: ticket sales go crazy. So yeah, a lot of Like 962 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: I loved Amsterdam and Munich and I'm in Switzerland's probably 963 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: my favorite place definitely send us broke, but it was 964 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: just it's a really it's a really amazing place to tour. 965 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 3: Is there an obscure place overseas that is a huge 966 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 3: market for Amy Shark? 967 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: I think Germany it was was the biggest. It was 968 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: funny I played Paris right and it's kind of I 969 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: know now because a lot of artists tell me this 970 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: that Paris sucks, Like no one in Paris likes any 971 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: Australian people. No, I'm any any like acts they go 972 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: there always struggle with ticket sales unless you Angus and 973 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: Julia Stone for some reason, and so so yeah, heapspeople 974 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: was saying, oh, I don't worry, like our tickets were 975 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: bombed out in Paris as well, so I go to Paris. 976 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of it was it was worth the gig, 977 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: like the ticket says built up through the day, like 978 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: the day of. But I got through that gig with 979 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: the most stern looks and I didn't know if it 980 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: was that language barrier or what was happening, but I'm 981 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: like I would I turned around and said to Joey, 982 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, they hate us, and He's just like you. 983 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: We were like it was just so crazy, and then 984 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: at the end they all like I went backstage and 985 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: Shane's like, you're not going to believe this, but the 986 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: whole crowd is waiting for you to go to merch 987 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: like so I just read I don't I don't know, 988 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: I just read it wrong, Like they must have just 989 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: been standing there listening so intently, but I reckon. I 990 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: got a photo and with everyone that was there, it 991 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: was so it was just so strange. I'm like, I'm like, 992 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: that was the worst gig I've ever played because they 993 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: weren't into it. 994 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 3: They are known as to be kind of testy the 995 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 3: French and like with the accent. Sometimes it's hard to. 996 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: Tell why I never worked so hard in my whole life. 997 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: It was just like it was crazy to me so 998 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 2: English speakers, you know, like if you look at French history, 999 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 2: so much of French history, it's always they're always that close, 1000 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: like until you know, like there's been certain events in 1001 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 2: history they've just about you conquered the land or something 1002 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: that the Brits beat them there. I mean Australia's the 1003 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 2: best example. 1004 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: They're just a bit pissed off. 1005 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: They're pissed off and that's for the reason they hate 1006 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: the bridge. And an example is Larperuse in Sydney. Did 1007 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: you know that Laperouse was a French sailor and he 1008 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: arrived a week after Captain Cook arrived at Botany Bay. 1009 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 2: He missed by a week Laperouse. 1010 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I didn't know that anyone did, and I 1011 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 3: think no one. 1012 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: Is really interested in any Okay, Amy, have you been 1013 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 2: to South America? 1014 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: No, I haven't, but it looks a lot of fun. 1015 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 2: Again Australian music. Talking to numerous bands who have been there, 1016 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 2: Australian artists, one thing is synonymous. They get the surprise 1017 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: of their life. So James Rain went there. They get 1018 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 2: told you want to go and do a gig in 1019 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 2: Brazil anyway, okay, turned up thirty thousand people at the gig. 1020 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: Spy versus by an old Newcastle Bean three piece band 1021 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 2: turned up. It was a fifteen thousand so a stadium 1022 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 2: they're writing to get in and Rick Rossman Huda Gurus 1023 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,240 Speaker 2: are about to go and tour over there. The reason Brazil. 1024 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 2: Brazilians love Australian music and there's a huge bootleg industry there, 1025 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 2: so even artists here they get their house. Your sales 1026 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: in South America are not really selling any then they 1027 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: go to Brazil or place. 1028 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: Well you see it in the comments. It's like a 1029 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: funny thing because we all say you always see it 1030 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: come to Brazil, to Brazil, like every but you see 1031 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 1: it on every artist page. It's always come to Brazil. 1032 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 1: So I mean there's we're working on this big sort 1033 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: of world tour thing at the moment, which will be 1034 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: really exciting. But hopefully that. 1035 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 3: Experience is that because of the surf culture and because 1036 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 3: a lot of Australian music used in surf music videos 1037 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 3: and documentary yes by Verse the Spy that. 1038 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 2: They were lean a little bit into the surf culture. 1039 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: Who do Guru's absolutely like we I wipe out very 1040 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: big and surfing an Australian crawl huge, Well the big 1041 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: one started with Australian crawl. They're talking about how little 1042 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: things make a big difference going forward in the future. 1043 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 2: Ozzie Crawl sponsored the nineteen eighty two Bells Beach Pro 1044 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: and that was the first year the Brazilians on tour 1045 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 2: and they heard the music play and went well this 1046 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: is really good and took bootlegs home to Brazil. Next 1047 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: thing it's this huge. 1048 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: They're all like great surfers there right yeah, yes. 1049 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Yeah, very very good. Amy, that was fantastic, 1050 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: loved it. Make great to talk to you again. Always read, 1051 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: enjoy it. Give my best to Shane and hopefully the 1052 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 2: dogs he's heaven. Don't worry, I'll find that driver. 1053 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Like that would just be the funniest 1054 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: little bit, just to stop it right there and make 1055 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: it go forever. 1056 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: Just click that up when we clip that up on 1057 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: sectional media, and congratulations on Sunday sadness, beautiful eyes, good 1058 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 2: luck with the tool mate. 1059 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate it, thank you, thank you guys. Ah you 1060 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: guys got it down.