WEBVTT - Credlin | 13 July 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.880 Petero live on Sky News Australia. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.120 Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Jamie Rodgers 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.040 in for Peter Credlin, who will be back next week. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.000 Here's what's coming up on the show. The Albanezer government 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.120 is under pressure after refusing to reveal whether it supports 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.160 a proposal from its own Islamophobia envoy to remove ideology 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:32.600 from the definition of terrorism. Will unpack the implications. Groundhog 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.040 Day in Melbourne another weekend of violence and crime. So 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.880 how and when does this cycle of violence end? Concerning 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.560 data out today showing almost half of Australians struggle to 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.120 pay rent last month as the cost of living continues 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.640 to hurt, and Australia's university sector is under the microscope 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.400 at the Royal Commission, with students and academics giving evidence you. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.120 Don't have a future here in Australia. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.199 So here's the scary thought. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.880 Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi pulled even further to the left. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.520 That's the reality that we face in twenty twenty eight. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:18.160 According to analysis by One Nation co founder David Oldfield, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.240 Labour will be dependent on a Greens dominated Senate after 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.160 the next election. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.880 The Greens will be backing with a full contingent of 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.840 twelve senators, so they'll be stronger. They will be stronger, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.720 and they will control the Senate. There's not much question 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.800 about that. Looking at the Senate figures. The Liberals will 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.920 lose a few in the Senate. One Nation will pick 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.320 up a few in the Senate. But bottom line is 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.120 that the Greens will be calling the tune in the 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.040 Senate and label we're making deals with them. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.200 Think about what that could mean. More influence for the Greens, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.600 more pressure on labor to shift left, more radical policies 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.480 finding their way onto the national agenda. Think about Marine 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.400 Ferruk in charge of immigration. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.000 This file and drips now in racism because for decades, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.400 for decades, politicians and both major parties, can I say 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:09.960 let it happen? 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.799 And this week this place has broken me. This place 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.920 has broken me with its racism. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.240 Given that many of you white people in here claim 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.640 English as your first language, that you would actually know, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.079 you would actually know what this means. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.000 And that's exactly why the important takeout from the latest 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.680 polling isn't Pauline Hanson's diff in support. It's about the 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:41.000 entire conservative side of politics for months, one nation looked unstoppable. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:46.160 Poll after poll showed Pauline Hanson's surging. Frustrated Australians were 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.600 looking for somewhere to send a message, but the latest 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.000 Reserve poll suggests that momentum may already be slowing. David 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.120 Oldfield said recent comments by Pauline Hansen contributed to this 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.160 decline what do you mean in. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.200 The Press club? But with that address that she delivered 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.680 at the National Press Club in Canberra that had an impact. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.520 What was it that she said that caused the problems. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.240 Of most things? I don't think it won a vote. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.840 It was one of those scenarios where you sort of 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.000 don't just want to beat people in the election, you 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.800 want to torture them about it before you go to 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:20.280 the election. It's a fundamental thing to understand about voting 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.560 in the first place, if nothing else, to know who 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.680 it is that isn't voting for you, who is voting 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.440 for you, and who you might be able to swing. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.639 And you mustn't play to your own cheer squad and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.040 kick the people that you hate and because that'll just 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.240 put off the people in the middle. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.160 Weeks after that Press Club speech, politicians from the Coalition, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.960 Labor and One Nation are still being asked to explain 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:49.560 one word, monoculture, instead of debating other issues that Hanson raised. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.120 The debate became about a single word. Barnaby Joyce was 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.120 asked about this yet again on Sunrise this morning. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.400 The polls are indicated and not a vote, and expect 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.320 there'd be fluctuation in polls as you go through a process. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.840 Pauline Hanson is direct, She does Todd Gilbert Lily. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.320 She's straight down the barrel with what she says. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.720 Then came the UK trip. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.480 Pauline Hanson walked the streets and recorded a podcast with 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:22.320 Tommy Robinson, a figure Nigel Farage himself has rejected the story, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:27.120 became the company she was keeping, and then Robinson publicly 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.040 endorsed her, hailing her as the bravest person on the planet. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.680 Sky News host Andrew Bolt wrote today that One Nation 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:40.560 now needs credibility more than headlines. Pauline Hanson has ridden 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:45.400 high in the polls because Australians want change, but moments 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.760 like the Tommy Robinson controversy risk distracting from that opportunity. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.480 The focus should be on building a credible team, attracting 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.960 quality candidates and convincing Australians that one Nation is ready 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:00.839 to govern, not just protest. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.440 Look at Victoria. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.320 The state election is only months away and recent polling 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.159 has put One Nation ahead of the Coalition in Labor, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.360 Yet the party has released few detailed policies and has 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:19.480 only one announced candidate. Hope alone won't win government credibility will. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.120 The government's budget has been universally criticized. Statistic show families 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.600 across Australia are struggling with the cost of living, businesses 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.400 are going under. It should be a perfect storm for 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:37.160 the parties on the right. The latest Reserve poll shows 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.360 One Nation down three points and the Coalition up three. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.640 The fight on the right is simply shifting votes between 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.919 Conservative parties. If the Coalition can rebuild its primary vote 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.600 and regain the lead over One Nation, the combined Conservative 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.720 vote starts to look far more competitive against Labor. But 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.840 while that battle continued, Anthony Alberizi is escaping the political consequences. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.719 His approval rating as Preferred My Minister went up four 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.320 percent to thirty three, while Pauline went down by eight. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.040 Why Because Australians still don't have a clear understanding of 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.440 what the alternative looks like Shadow Energy Minister Dan Teen 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.279 spoke about the approval ratings. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.640 The thing that concerns me a little bit from these 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.720 poles is that his approval's gone up. I mean, he's 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.560 just lied to the Australian people. He's lied about putting 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.240 more taxes on the Australian people and we've got to 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.240 get out and sell that message. So this is a 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.919 prime minister that lies to you. It cannot be trusted. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.920 We'll get out there and do it, and while you're 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:50.560 at it, release your energy policy to maximize the hypocrisy 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.720 of the latest deal. The government just signed an agreement 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.919 to export uranium to power India's future while continuing to 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.760 tell Australians nuclear energy isn't good enough for us. The 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.800 Coalition should be making that argument every single day, show 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.440 Australia while they should vote for you, why you're different 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.520 from Labor. If Anthony Albanesi becomes more dependent on the 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.280 Greens in twenty twenty eight, the country moves further left. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.600 If the Coalition wants to stop that, it can't rely 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.360 on Labor making mistakes. It must give Australians something to 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.400 vote for, because right now Australians know what's broken, They're 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:36.560 still waiting to see who's ready to fix it. We 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:41.360 have failed Jewish Australians. The Royal Commission on Anti Semitism 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.400 and Social Cohesion began its fourth hearing block today. The 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.160 focus is on university campuses. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:54.120 What I experienced was harassment, was vilification and at times 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.760 physical physical abuse. I was spat at by people. I 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.400 had people perform Nazi salutes in my direction. I was 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.760 called a baby killer and a genocide supporter. And no 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:11.240 student should be subjected to these sorts of behaviors. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.760 And perhaps the most heartbreaking admission of all, every morning, 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.960 before walking onto campus, she had to ask herself a question. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.440 I would have to pick, am I am I Jewish 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.280 liat today or am I regular? 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.080 Leah. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.520 I wouldn't use my name ordering at coffee shops for 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.200 fear that someone would ask me where it's from. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.120 On top of that, friends were lost. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.080 The individual looked at me and then said, oh, I 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.079 can't talk to you. We're not friends anymore. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:41.840 You're a Zionist. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.840 The majority of the people who are my friends at 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.560 the time just stopped talking to me entirely. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.120 So let's think about that for a moment in Australia 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.120 in twenty twenty six, a university student deciding whether it's 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.640 safer to conceal her identity before going to class and 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:04.400 losing friends because she's Jewish. One lecturer said each day 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.479 was a battle of where she could walk on campus 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:08.920 to avoid the protests. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.040 If I have to think about which way I walk 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.320 on campus to get from one side to stet from 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.640 my office to where I'm going to teach so that 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.240 they won't bump into a protest on campus, that again 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.800 is going to impact my ability to be an excellent teacher. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.200 Universities have long defended themselves by appointing to freedom of speech, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.000 but no students should have to wonder whether revealing their name, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.720 their religion, or their heritage will make them a target. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.800 How did our universities allow this culture to develop. Universities 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.920 aren't just producing graduates, They're shaping the next generation of leaders. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.240 If students learn that this behavior is acceptable, then we 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.920 failed at something much bigger than campus governance. The Albanezer 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.000 government has now stepped in requiring universities to adopt a 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:02.640 formal definition of anti Semitism and strengthening oversight education. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.000 Editor at the Australian Natasha. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.480 Beta joins me later in the program to discuss these regulations. Now, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.679 these reforms are over jew but they're welcome. But legislation 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.960 alone isn't going to fix a culture. Australia has failed 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.560 our Jewish community, universities have failed to protect them, and 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.400 too many leaders failed to speak up. Anti Semitism should 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.760 be confronted with the same resolve as every other form 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:40.440 of racism. Nothing less should be acceptable in Australia. Nothing less. Well, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.240 let's head to Camberan now for tonight's political headlines, where 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.800 Sky News political reporter Ruven Spargo. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.560 Support for paul En Hanson's One Nation is easing for 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.200 the first time in four months. According to the Resolve 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.400 Political Monitor poll, the Minor Party has fallen three points 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:02.080 to twenty six percent in July. Coalition is regaining ground. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.440 We know that we've still got an awful lot of 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.240 work to do ahead of us, that it was going 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.520 to be a long road back. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.880 Pauline Hanson's ratings for preferred Prime Minister dropped to eight points. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.640 Anthony Alberizi has extended his lead. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.000 He's just lied to the Australian people. We've got to 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.720 get out and sell that message. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:24.400 Victoria's November state election represents the next significant test for 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.520 one nation. Auction clearance rates remain subdued, but there are 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.480 early signs the housing market may be stabilizing. Ray White's 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.080 clearance rate lifted to forty seven point seven percent last week, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.240 up from forty four point three percent the week before, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.160 but still well below seventy five point four percent a 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:43.720 year ago. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.959 There is real concern out there for those property investors 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.760 and property owners as to whether their house is now 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.160 their family home is worth the same as it was 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:53.040 just a year ago. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.640 ARIA Group data shows the clearance rate trending flat. Nationally, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.560 Australia is scrapping its paper passenger arrival cards, replacing them 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.280 with a digital declaration. The move is designed to modernize 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.000 the country's border processes. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.400 Finally, with today's announcement, we're going to see the end 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:11.719 of them. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.520 The paper system will be phased out over the next 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:15.400 four years. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.880 All right, let's jump into what's making news around the 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.480 country with our Monday Night panel. Sky News contributor Carolie 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.720 Katz and Varnas and former Liberal MP Nicole Flint. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:28.360 Welcome to you both. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.480 Let's start with that, Laters polling with One Nation dropping 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.360 three percent and Pauline's popularity also dropping eight percent. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.600 Caroly, do you think the gloss is. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.280 Coming off One Nation and potentially is a bit of 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.440 a fallout from the National Press Club speech. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.360 I don't so much suppose it's the gloss coming off 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.280 and good evening to both of you, lovely ladies and 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.160 the audience. I think what it is is that people 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.840 are actually realizing that for a moment there One Nation 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.640 filled the void that the Liberal Party and the Coalition 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.440 was actually not filling. There's all the who are between 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.640 Susan Lee and then who is going to take over 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.240 as an Angus Taylor? And you know, the discourse was 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.400 One Nation is hitting the mark with what Australians are 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:17.640 worried about, poverty, energy income, cost of living, electricity, getting 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.920 rid of renewable energy targets, all that stuff. But now 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.920 the reality is dawning on them. I mean, we have 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.000 a state election here in Victoria in November. It's less 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.480 than sixteen weeks away, but we have no One Nation 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.960 leader in Victoria and there are no candidates. So I 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.920 think it was very popular back then for people to 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.040 say yep, I'm going to vote for One Nation because 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.160 the Coalition was not giving them what they were wanting, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.040 and so people were drifting over to One Nation. But 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.760 it's a very different kettle of fish when people actually 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.240 realize that One Nation is a protest party. When you 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.720 put your mark on the ballot paper, do we actually 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.760 want this mob to run the country? And I think 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.160 a bit of common sense comes back into it. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.080 And Nicole, I think the other issue is the Coalition 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.040 has picked up those three points that appear to have 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.240 moved away from One Nation. A positive is that Angus 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.400 Taylor rose in popularity, but it's more that we're just 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.720 seeing this shift between the Conservative voters between One Nation 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.600 and the Coalition rather than taking it away from labor. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.360 Which is pretty extraordinary given the economic destruction labor are 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.000 wreaking on the Australian people. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.520 So that's quite perplexing. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.040 What I would say about this poll though, is that 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.080 it is you know, it's one poll out of many. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.520 I wonder if it is a bit of an outlier. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.240 Often we do see the numbers jump around a little bit, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.160 so I think we need to wait and see the 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.000 next news poll, for example, and do a comparing contrast 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.520 and see if this is a trend or if it's 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.600 just a bit of a blip. But certainly interesting times 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.560 in Australian politics. I just wish we were seeing the 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.560 numbers coming off of labor. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.400 And caroly back into your home state. A really interesting survey, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.280 I mean, it's probably not surprising, has found almost half 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.920 of Victorian businesses more likely to now invest interstate due 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.000 to these proposed work from home laws that the Allen 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.280 government is bringing in. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:14.760 But what do you make of there? 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.320 Surely the Allen government was given warnings that this would happen. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.320 They were and look, it is actually disastrous because the 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:28.200 latest data shows that forty seven percent of Victorian businesses 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.240 won't expand and they won't actually invest back into Victoria, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.080 so it's actually a disincentive to invest in the state 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.080 of Victoria. The problem is the Allen Labor government very clever. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.400 They're trying to paint the Victorian Chamber of Commerce into 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.320 a corner to say that they're against working from home, 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.960 when the Chamber is actually saying it's come up with 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:53.000 eleven points signed by many other organizations in Victoria to 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.560 say no, we're not against working from home. But this 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.600 does not need to be legislated because for you and 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.400 for the view viewers from September first, this legislation is 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.000 actually going to enshrine in law that people have the 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.080 right to work from home for eligible occupations two days 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:10.600 a week. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:11.880 It's pretty common sense. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.320 There's a lot of flexible working arrangements available in Victoria. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.720 But this should be done between businesses, between employers and employees, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.320 and it's just going to backfire. And I can understand 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.600 Sally Curtin, who is the head of Victoria Chamber of Commerce. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.480 She says this is a solution looking for a problem. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.040 In other words, there is no problem at the moment, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:38.080 but the problem will be governments legislating what business should 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.440 do and it is really a disincentive. 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.040 Well, I have Brad Batton coming on shortly, so I 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.720 will definitely be talking to him about what the Liberals 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.960 plan will be, Nicole, but I also want to just 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.240 talk to you about some of those cost of living 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.360 crisis that we're seeing in data today and it just 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.680 highlights how tough Australians are really doing it, where tenants 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.040 at the moment are struggling to pay their rent that 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.119 was more than half and thirty eight percent of homeowners 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.800 said they have struggling to pay the mortgage. And I 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.720 read these sort of stories and I just think the 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.520 government aren't grasping. Are they just how tough Australians are 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:14.359 doing it right now? 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.680 No, And of course they're not, Jamie, because they're all 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:22.800 getting their pretty generous incomes in their bank account every 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:29.080 single fortnight, and honestly, they're obviously immune to all of 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.760 the normal costs that normal Aussies are facing. So the 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.520 price of everything has gone up. People are taking pain 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.040 in every single part of their lives. So as you've 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:44.480 just set it's the rent, it's mortgages, interest rate increases, 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.840 it's grocery prices, it's power prices, and it's fuel prices. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:53.000 So there's nowhere that people can really save money because 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.120 it's all of the essentials that. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:55.800 Are going up. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:18:00.840 So honestly, again, I can't believe that labor haven't gone 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.600 backwards in the Poles, let alone a long way backwards 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.080 in the Poles, given how disasters and how stressful it 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.200 is for normal Ossies trying to make ends meet. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.400 At the moment, Caroly, let's go have a look at 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.240 these cost of groceries. I'll get that graphic put back 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.800 up because it just shows how basic food items have 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.760 increased since twenty twenty three. So for a basic groceries 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.399 it has risen by seventeen and a half percent, so 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.600 it'll cost family on average each year another seven hundred dollars. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.359 But it's the increase of some of these things like 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.399 flour that has jumped one hundred and nineteen percent, a 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.720 two hundred grand block of chocolate is seventy five percent, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.960 and a kilo of apples has doubled. This is on top, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.200 as Nicole was saying, on top of rising energy and rents, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.639 is it any wonder that people are just really struggling 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:49.360 to get ahead? 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:51.960 Well, no, it's not. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.800 And to me, this is one of the number one 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.800 things that the Albanzi government has actually got to get 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.280 on top of, because, as Nicole correctly pointed out, people 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.720 are suffering economic poverty in all parts of their lives. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.120 Car insurance is going up, home insurance is going up, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.400 rents are going up. Everything is going up, and there's 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.119 only so much money in everybody's pot. At the end 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.840 of the week, I'll tell you I've swapped ninety five 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:20.480 percent of my household shopping and family to Aldi. That's 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.040 how bad it's got. I mean, there's only x amount. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.879 Every dollar that you can save is really important. What 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.440 I actually like is some of these members of Parliament 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.800 to put on the boots, put on the trackie, forget 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.119 the makeup, put your hair in a bun, put your 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.040 hair in a beanie. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:36.760 Go down to your local Ald. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.560 Then go to your other major grocery stores and actually 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.760 look as to how much things cost. Don't do shopping online, 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.000 go down there and better still, talk to the people 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.600 in Ald and find out the reason why they're shopping 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.160 at cheaper supermarkets and you'll find out that it's normal, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.520 law abiding people trying to get ahead, trying to look 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.960 after their families so that they're not a drain on 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.760 the Australian taxpayer. They're cutting back in every way that 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.280 they can. And until politicians do that in Canberra and 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.760 also statewide, you're not actually going to get how bad 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:12.639 this crisis is. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.159 And just very quickly in Nicoll before we go, I 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.520 just wanted to end on a lighthearted story with Bob 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.119 Katter now a meme across the UK, and it's because 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.520 the younger generation just love his style and when he 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:26.040 says this. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.960 Don't say that because stadiotapes me and I'll punch blots 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:32.640 in the mouth for saying that. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.239 Don't you dare say that? 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:36.800 So look a bit of fun. 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:38.960 It's all about social media these days. He's got one 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.440 hundred and forty eight thousand followers on Instagram and seven 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:42.720 percent of them are from the UK. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:44.800 It's pretty extraordinary, Jamie. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.080 But as we know, Bob Katter is a big personality 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:52.960 and isn't it lovely to see some Queensland ossie as 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.640 being spread out across. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.680 The globe and particularly back to the UK ladies. I'll 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.160 leave it there, Thanks for much for tonight. Well let's 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.560 go now to Melbourne's crime crisis and what must seem 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.480 like groundhog Day for authorities after another weekend of violence, 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.040 with a cafe in Essendon, which is just north of 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:16.480 the city, torched by arsonists days after it was targeted 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.960 in a drive by shooting. Here to give us his 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.679 assessment is Shadow Police Minister Brad Batton. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:23.000 Brad welcome. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.320 There appears to be no end to this wave of 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:27.840 attack on businesses. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:29.680 Has the horse bolted? 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:29.960 Though? 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:30.360 You know? 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.600 How does Melbourne wind the clock back so that residents 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:34.160 feel safe? 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:35.480 In their homes and businesses. 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.000 Yeah, thank you. 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.399 It's really important we have this discussion because the question 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.920 about the horse bolted is answer is no, Yes, there's 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.960 a lot of crime around at the moment, but yes, 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.960 it also can have a solution and we can put 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.639 things in place to prevent it in the future. The 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.920 one you mentioned is then Andy Andy's Cafe. You look 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.080 at that business shot at one week, five bomb the next. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.760 How can staff even think they could you're safe going 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.160 to work? And that's where our fear is. A week 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:07.959 ago you had a business in Richmond that was firebombed. 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.480 Ten other businesses around it have been destroyed. That's livelihoods, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.639 that's people that can't go to work, that's people that 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.960