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Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am

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Speaker 1: Neil the muscle comments in.

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Speaker 2: This episode, I speak with Janna Hocking sex Guru.

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Speaker 3: As soon as a guy shows real interest, it freaks

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Speaker 3: me out. These guys watch the really hard walk and

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Speaker 3: then they think that's what girls like. Stop choking girls,

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Speaker 3: let's stop like or they think you want to be

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Speaker 3: slapped in the face or spat on, or like thirty

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Speaker 3: percent of the men when dating ups are actually married.

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Speaker 3: I do like kind of like Christian the cinema.

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Speaker 1: The worst nationality male to date Australian.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about you growing up, life and everything like

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Speaker 2: that in general, and then we'll get down to all

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Speaker 2: the vanity gritty for what you're doing now about.

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Speaker 3: Me kind of country girl. So parents started dating when

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Speaker 3: they were fifteen, tiny tiny country town with like thirty people.

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Speaker 1: What the country town.

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Speaker 3: Was Grenfall, which is out near Cara, Like fatist and

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Speaker 3: keep going a few hours.

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Speaker 1: I know about Cara.

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Speaker 3: How do you know about Kara.

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Speaker 2: Let's just going off the topic a little bit. When

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Speaker 2: I got out of the scene, I went to Cara, okay,

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Speaker 2: just to get out of the whole scene. When they

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Speaker 2: found out who I was.

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Speaker 3: They small town.

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Speaker 2: They actually had meetings and this is all the businesses

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Speaker 2: down there to get.

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Speaker 1: Me kicked out.

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Speaker 2: Wow, because they thought I come down to take over

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Speaker 2: the town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could say that.

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Speaker 1: And they thought I opened the business just to do drugs.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I know very much about Karra.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no one knows Tara. And you've been

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Speaker 3: kicked out of Kara. Well I kicked myself out. So yeah.

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Speaker 3: I went to a small high school. It was like

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Speaker 3: primary to year twelve. Three hundred people went to UNI

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Speaker 3: in Bathist, tiny tiny town, and I just always knew

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Speaker 3: I wanted more. So I did journalism and then never

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Speaker 3: really took that path. I ended up getting into TV.

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Speaker 3: So I worked for like Getaway and all those places,

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Speaker 3: whole time dating naughty boys when naughty.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you got out of Baptist and all

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: No. I met him through my brother, The really naughty

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Speaker 3: one I met while I was at UNI, and he

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Speaker 3: almost made me fail UNI talking like went to Dell

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Speaker 3: twice while we were dating. What uh, there's stories. The

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Speaker 3: first one was because he was when he was going

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Speaker 3: through court when I met him, and I had been

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Speaker 3: such a good girl. I went out with a police officer.

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Speaker 3: That was my first boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Don't see you as a police officer, no either.

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Speaker 3: Do I I was sixteen, he was twenty. It was

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the uniform and he was so

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Speaker 3: straight laced. And then my second boyfriend was the complete opposite.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was probably because the copper was bored,

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Speaker 3: now and I was like, what was it with that guy?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, you were looking for protection,

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Speaker 3: Like I kind of grew up in a crazy household,

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Speaker 3: and I just wanted like a big alpha dude.

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Speaker 2: You know, big difference bringing someone home like a copper

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Speaker 2: to your parents, and then all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 2: bring someone home with a jailbird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't yet. He was going through the call process,

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Speaker 3: which made me because this first boy was so boring,

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Speaker 3: what did you do at twenty twenty, same age, same age,

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Speaker 3: and he was he did a few things. He h

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Speaker 3: did he have go in to jail? You have spoken

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Speaker 3: to him since not for quite a few years.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let's get the DA sound on. So

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Speaker 3: Do you think he would? So the first time he

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Speaker 3: And so then he went to just weekend attention for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: My yeah, I found that out afterwards took him back

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Speaker 3: He was a real fighter. He loved a good punch up,

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Speaker 3: saw it, grabbed the police officer's finger and broke it.

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Speaker 3: And so then he went back to Dell. So oh, therapy,

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Speaker 3: a lot of therapy. I couldn't. I was so in

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Speaker 3: love with him, and I just thought he was so smart,

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Speaker 3: I thought he could be like just is amazing. I

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Speaker 3: saw the potential like every girl who goes for bad boys. Correction,

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Speaker 3: he's back in jail. No, now he's more settled than me.

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Speaker 3: He's got like two kids, Mar's like a gorgeous girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just thought I could. You know, every girl thinks

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Speaker 3: had so much content, so I started writing about it

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Speaker 1: But before that, as you said, you don't.

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Speaker 3: So I did TV. So I did. My first job

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Speaker 3: So I was really spoilt. So I got out of

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Speaker 3: UNI straight into Getaway. Did that just five years. I

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Speaker 3: u went for a job at the Today Show. Story

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Speaker 3: But between the two interviews, I fell over and like

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Speaker 3: They just your surgeon had a heart attack. We had

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Speaker 3: I got it because he thought I was hilarious turning

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Speaker 3: for five years. Best it was the best job. Like

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Speaker 3: Like you're in these amazing holiday destinations, but you've also

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Speaker 3: like get the sunset and I got it to the bar.

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Speaker 3: And then that also played a part in getting rid

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Speaker 3: you know, smoking bones every weekend.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't take partners with you.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: And what are these naughty boys? Like? Are we talking

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Speaker 3: Like no, that's like that's like goals, that's like who

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Speaker 3: are you friends? Let's chat? No, No, they were like

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Speaker 1: I've got a big one coming up this weekend if

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Speaker 3: Mean clear diary trying to stop those boys. Well, the

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Speaker 3: Go for that totally, or ones that are like a

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Speaker 1: Know what now?

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Speaker 2: Because you are the dating guru? Okay, what males ski you?

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Speaker 2: What you come across. You can be intimidating because of

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Speaker 3: many times, no, I don't like feelings. And I've been

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Speaker 1: The headlines. But if I was an ex and you

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Speaker 3: It's me and I so many guys. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: If you look at what girls like the most downloaded

436
00:23:08,001 --> 00:23:11,281
Speaker 3: podcast by girls and the most downloaded podcast by boys,

437
00:23:11,281 --> 00:23:17,881
Speaker 3: they're so opposite. Girls type in central, who's the guy

438
00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: I like, he's really oh, Johnny Sims. Boys watch Johnny Simms.

439
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,321
Speaker 3: That's how girls like to be more like Johnny Simms,

440
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,881
Speaker 3: whereas guys are watching the most hectic.

441
00:23:33,001 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: So when your friends you talk about all.

442
00:23:34,521 --> 00:23:37,241
Speaker 3: The ship, everything everything.

443
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,241
Speaker 1: Your friends single like you or they yeah, and.

444
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:46,401
Speaker 3: They're really hot and they're really available and they're amazing. Dms.

445
00:23:48,241 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: What what's the I'm gonna put you on spot. The

446
00:23:51,441 --> 00:23:53,521
Speaker 2: worst nationality male to date.

447
00:23:54,801 --> 00:24:03,721
Speaker 3: Australian definitely definitely boring. Don't go to any effort. I

448
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,521
Speaker 3: think a grunt and a boom grab is full play.

449
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:15,561
Speaker 3: A date is at the bar, like, don't ask questions.

450
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: They just sit there and like don't brush their teeth,

451
00:24:22,281 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: like if we've got theodorant turn up in singles like

452
00:24:25,521 --> 00:24:29,521
Speaker 3: I could go on. Actually, Australians are my father worst

453
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:35,001
Speaker 3: the American. They they've got the riz and the rizz

454
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: is charisma and they're just born, whether it's fake minnas

455
00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:42,241
Speaker 3: or real menas they're just you know, they'll offer you

456
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,241
Speaker 3: their coat, they'll come up to in a bar, they'll

457
00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:45,961
Speaker 3: come up to getting.

458
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,041
Speaker 1: Something like that.

459
00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:52,881
Speaker 3: They're good. Yeah, they're good. But American just like any buy.

460
00:24:53,041 --> 00:24:55,961
Speaker 3: Just got back from New York and it was the best.

461
00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: I got picked up in the airport line like the

462
00:24:59,721 --> 00:25:03,721
Speaker 3: guy who does who stamps your He was like where

463
00:25:03,721 --> 00:25:05,761
Speaker 3: are you staying? And I was like here. He's like

464
00:25:05,801 --> 00:25:07,561
Speaker 3: you're going to take me out? And I was like, yes,

465
00:25:07,681 --> 00:25:10,881
Speaker 3: I've a right, But also no because you're not my time.

466
00:25:14,321 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: So I say Americans are the best. They just I say,

467
00:25:17,761 --> 00:25:27,961
Speaker 3: Americans shoot? What is it they shoots? No? I s oh, yeah, definitely.

468
00:25:28,241 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: Actually the last time I was in New York, I

469
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,241
Speaker 3: hooked up with a Frenchman so that didn't work out.

470
00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:37,121
Speaker 3: But no Americans to shoot their shot.

471
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,801
Speaker 1: What scares you about a male the most? I think

472
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,481
Speaker 1: it's a commitment.

473
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,441
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are right. As soon as the guy

474
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,561
Speaker 3: I questioned a guy, but this is on me, and

475
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,841
Speaker 3: please note this is my issure, not there. As soon

476
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,401
Speaker 3: as the guy shows real interest, it freaks me out.

477
00:25:53,481 --> 00:25:53,801
Speaker 1: I reckon.

478
00:25:53,801 --> 00:25:56,281
Speaker 2: You get bored because you've done the hard work, so

479
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,801
Speaker 2: you like. What you like to do is you look

480
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: at someone and say, oh, I want to do this.

481
00:26:00,761 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: I want to see if he looks a challenge. But

482
00:26:02,681 --> 00:26:04,281
Speaker 2: once that challenge is done.

483
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,441
Speaker 3: Nabim, you're bought there, thank you. Next it's really bad.

484
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, and it's something I've definitely got and

485
00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:12,321
Speaker 3: I know it. And they say the first step is

486
00:26:12,441 --> 00:26:17,001
Speaker 3: recognizing it. Tick. I get yeah, and then I'm like,

487
00:26:17,681 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: what the heck? I lose interest pretty quickly, but that's

488
00:26:25,441 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: on me, you know, I'm I don't know, I question,

489
00:26:29,281 --> 00:26:32,721
Speaker 3: and I'm like, really, me, how old are you? Thirty nine?

490
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,321
Speaker 3: So I should know better.

491
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: But what I said about maybe thirty four thirty four.

492
00:26:38,481 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: Loah his botox to men, thank you. No. Yeah, I

493
00:26:47,481 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: struggle with commitment, but I think that's probably because I

494
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: grew up in a household where they were high school sweethearts.

495
00:26:55,001 --> 00:26:57,921
Speaker 3: So that kind of drama that you have in high

496
00:26:57,961 --> 00:27:00,201
Speaker 3: school played out.

497
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,401
Speaker 1: Through your brothers and sisters.

498
00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:04,721
Speaker 3: Two brothers, yeah, and well they think about what you

499
00:27:04,801 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: got to to One brother has blocked me on Instagram.

500
00:27:10,281 --> 00:27:16,241
Speaker 3: He's like, I love you, I just don't want to know. One.

501
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: So the youngest brother, who's really kind of put together.

502
00:27:20,281 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: He's an environmental scientist, he got his HC back. No

503
00:27:23,721 --> 00:27:25,801
Speaker 3: one knew he was that smart. And then I'm like,

504
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: oh my god, like he's really intelligent, married his university sweetheart,

505
00:27:30,321 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: has two kids, has a house in Rubra and a

506
00:27:33,761 --> 00:27:37,121
Speaker 3: farm in Victoria. And then my other brother lives out

507
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,521
Speaker 3: on a farm in Parks and he's no, he's no.

508
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: Everything I set him up with my girlfriends. He reads

509
00:27:45,921 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: all else to do exactly. He's so bored.

510
00:27:55,241 --> 00:28:01,481
Speaker 6: When oh my god, so many there was a guy

511
00:28:02,001 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 6: who ghosted me halfway through a date, but then I

512
00:28:05,041 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 6: found out he was married, so it was really funny.

513
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of guys who got

514
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: married before the dating apps came along, and I think

515
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: they feel like they really missed out on dating apps

516
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,561
Speaker 3: and they think we're all having sex. And to be fair,

517
00:28:20,921 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: they're not wrong.

518
00:28:22,721 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: Because I was supposed to say I think it is.

519
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: They're not wrong. It's a randy, randy thing. But so

520
00:28:28,321 --> 00:28:30,241
Speaker 3: all these guys got married and they're like, fuck, all

521
00:28:30,241 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: my mates are on the dating apps having all this

522
00:28:32,201 --> 00:28:34,001
Speaker 3: ex and I want to see what it's like. So

523
00:28:34,041 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: they did some stat bumble or Tinder or one of

524
00:28:36,481 --> 00:28:39,041
Speaker 3: them found that like thirty percent of the men on

525
00:28:39,161 --> 00:28:41,881
Speaker 3: dating apps are actually married. And I went on a

526
00:28:42,001 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: date with this guy and he wanted to go to

527
00:28:43,561 --> 00:28:45,801
Speaker 3: this really quiet pub that no one goes to. When

528
00:28:45,801 --> 00:28:48,401
Speaker 3: I got there and he was like sweating. This was before,

529
00:28:48,521 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: this was when I had just started my dating column,

530
00:28:50,561 --> 00:28:54,121
Speaker 3: so I wasn't really promist. Yeah yeah, and he was

531
00:28:54,161 --> 00:28:57,641
Speaker 3: sweating bullets, sweating bullets, and he kept drinking and he

532
00:28:57,681 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: would like open his throat, you know when they drink

533
00:29:00,481 --> 00:29:02,561
Speaker 3: and it just goes straight down. He was not enjoying

534
00:29:02,601 --> 00:29:04,841
Speaker 3: the beer. I was like, oh my god, he's drinking

535
00:29:04,881 --> 00:29:07,601
Speaker 3: some and kept going out for cigarettes and I was like,

536
00:29:07,641 --> 00:29:10,041
Speaker 3: this guy, I've never seen someone so nervous on a date.

537
00:29:10,401 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: But I kind of stuck with it and I was like,

538
00:29:12,241 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: he's all right. Then he went out for a cigarette,

539
00:29:15,241 --> 00:29:19,281
Speaker 3: like he's like fifth cigarette, and so I got chatting

540
00:29:19,321 --> 00:29:22,001
Speaker 3: to the people next to me, and then ten minutes

541
00:29:22,081 --> 00:29:26,401
Speaker 3: went by, then like fifteen minutes and twenty minutes, and

542
00:29:26,441 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: so then I jumped back on the app and I

543
00:29:29,481 --> 00:29:33,161
Speaker 3: had a message from him saying, sorry, I've left. You

544
00:29:33,161 --> 00:29:35,121
Speaker 3: look like you're having a really good chat to those guys.

545
00:29:35,361 --> 00:29:37,521
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm having a chat with these guys

546
00:29:37,561 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: because you've left. And then I went home crying and

547
00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,281
Speaker 3: I called my best friend. I was like, I've just

548
00:29:45,361 --> 00:29:47,881
Speaker 3: been inqoisted on a date. This is so traumatic, and

549
00:29:47,921 --> 00:29:50,801
Speaker 3: he goes to me, no, this is a really good article,

550
00:29:51,041 --> 00:29:55,401
Speaker 3: and I was like, you're what. I stopped crying, and

551
00:29:55,441 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: then I was like, this is bre an article. And

552
00:29:57,241 --> 00:29:59,481
Speaker 3: then we did some research because no one research is

553
00:29:59,561 --> 00:30:03,161
Speaker 3: like a girl scorned and found him on Instagram and yeah,

554
00:30:03,201 --> 00:30:06,481
Speaker 3: he was married, so he was just thinking he could idiot.

555
00:30:06,481 --> 00:30:09,241
Speaker 1: So you do see how you've done the column on him?

556
00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:11,801
Speaker 1: So you did see what I mean? Yeah? Why people

557
00:30:11,921 --> 00:30:12,641
Speaker 1: so scared? Now?

558
00:30:13,001 --> 00:30:16,881
Speaker 3: He deserved it. He was married, naughty.

559
00:30:16,561 --> 00:30:18,561
Speaker 1: Boy, Tell me what are you?

560
00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: I want someone who's loud and fun and outgoing and

561
00:30:24,601 --> 00:30:31,281
Speaker 3: ambitious and age age probably older. I want someone who's

562
00:30:31,561 --> 00:30:34,401
Speaker 3: probably already been married and had kids because I don't

563
00:30:34,401 --> 00:30:38,321
Speaker 3: want kids. No, no, no, I just never got the

564
00:30:38,361 --> 00:30:43,241
Speaker 3: maternity maternity, maternal maternity. I don't even know the word.

565
00:30:47,401 --> 00:30:51,281
Speaker 3: May I never end up in maternity one. No, I

566
00:30:51,321 --> 00:30:53,921
Speaker 3: never got it. So I'm I'm quite happy to date

567
00:30:54,081 --> 00:30:57,881
Speaker 3: a divorced guy because they've had their kids, They've got

568
00:30:57,881 --> 00:30:59,921
Speaker 3: out of the system. It's really hard to date someone

569
00:31:00,001 --> 00:31:03,001
Speaker 3: who wants kids because I'm never going to change my mind.

570
00:31:03,921 --> 00:31:06,201
Speaker 3: And for some reason, all these dudes think you will

571
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:06,961
Speaker 3: change your mind.

572
00:31:07,081 --> 00:31:09,521
Speaker 1: But the thing is that you've got you try and

573
00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:10,841
Speaker 1: change them. But why can't they?

574
00:31:11,041 --> 00:31:13,561
Speaker 3: No, I never do No, I would never take kids

575
00:31:13,561 --> 00:31:14,081
Speaker 3: off someone.

576
00:31:14,601 --> 00:31:16,681
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you like to change someone like

577
00:31:16,681 --> 00:31:19,041
Speaker 2: a male. Yeah, So why can't they change you to

578
00:31:19,121 --> 00:31:19,721
Speaker 2: change your mind?

579
00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:27,161
Speaker 3: No, because I will never be pushing something out of there.

580
00:31:27,641 --> 00:31:29,321
Speaker 1: There nothing's going on.

581
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: It's an Inny not an OUTI no, no, not for me.

582
00:31:38,601 --> 00:31:42,761
Speaker 3: So divorce Man Prime Time. Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah,

583
00:31:42,761 --> 00:31:44,561
Speaker 3: I definitely want to get married, which is weird because

584
00:31:44,561 --> 00:31:46,801
Speaker 3: I've done these articles and I did a debate on

585
00:31:47,281 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: Sky News the other day. Or my marriage is outdated,

586
00:31:50,601 --> 00:31:52,601
Speaker 3: but now I think marriage can come in many forms

587
00:31:52,641 --> 00:31:55,801
Speaker 3: as open marriages. Yeah, I'd like to be married now.

588
00:31:55,841 --> 00:32:00,681
Speaker 2: Before we started the conversation today, you did talk about swingers.

589
00:32:01,041 --> 00:32:01,281
Speaker 1: Yeah.

590
00:32:03,601 --> 00:32:13,361
Speaker 3: Ah, here's my problem with swinging.

591
00:32:11,161 --> 00:32:12,681
Speaker 1: On the spot. You know why, because I would look

592
00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:15,041
Speaker 1: at your fucking articles all the time, and I feel

593
00:32:15,081 --> 00:32:16,481
Speaker 1: like you put everyone else on the spot.

594
00:32:17,121 --> 00:32:17,481
Speaker 3: I love it.

595
00:32:18,481 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 6: You've got me thinking write anything about me.

596
00:32:22,121 --> 00:32:26,601
Speaker 3: I'm timing it in my head. No, no, with swinging.

597
00:32:27,281 --> 00:32:34,001
Speaker 3: My problem with swinging is I only I would definitely

598
00:32:34,041 --> 00:32:38,521
Speaker 3: swing if I could hand pick every person in that room.

599
00:32:39,601 --> 00:32:41,921
Speaker 2: Because that's when you go in From what I know,

600
00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: you can go in there and if you don't can

601
00:32:43,281 --> 00:32:44,881
Speaker 2: say no to that person, but yes to that person,

602
00:32:44,961 --> 00:32:45,521
Speaker 2: not to that person.

603
00:32:45,561 --> 00:32:45,721
Speaker 1: Yes.

604
00:32:45,801 --> 00:32:50,161
Speaker 3: That I just feel like would be gross. And also

605
00:32:50,561 --> 00:32:53,041
Speaker 3: I want them if I'm having sex, I only want

606
00:32:53,081 --> 00:32:57,841
Speaker 3: the people I've approved to be watching. It's a control thing.

607
00:32:57,881 --> 00:32:59,441
Speaker 1: I'm in control.

608
00:33:00,081 --> 00:33:03,161
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, and I'd be too busy going do I

609
00:33:03,161 --> 00:33:05,921
Speaker 3: have a double chin? Is this angle? I wouldn't be

610
00:33:06,041 --> 00:33:08,601
Speaker 3: enjoying it. My head would not be in the room.

611
00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:11,641
Speaker 3: It would be do I have cellul with everyone looking

612
00:33:11,641 --> 00:33:15,441
Speaker 3: at the cell you No, But if I could get

613
00:33:15,521 --> 00:33:19,161
Speaker 3: like five hot guys, five hot girls, yeah, I'd.

614
00:33:19,001 --> 00:33:19,321
Speaker 5: Go for it.

615
00:33:20,401 --> 00:33:23,041
Speaker 1: Oh so you would be you would do again totally.

616
00:33:24,881 --> 00:33:27,721
Speaker 3: I've tried it. I really wanted to.

617
00:33:28,041 --> 00:33:32,241
Speaker 1: I think written about that.

618
00:33:35,441 --> 00:33:38,881
Speaker 3: The pandemic was low. Oh, like I've doubled.

619
00:33:40,041 --> 00:33:40,281
Speaker 2: Yeah.

620
00:33:40,521 --> 00:33:43,481
Speaker 3: It was fun, never dated, never just a bit.

621
00:33:43,401 --> 00:33:45,441
Speaker 1: Of like you went out for drinks and.

622
00:33:45,521 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: Girls really needy, like I kind of it was weird.

623
00:33:49,601 --> 00:33:53,201
Speaker 3: Dabbling made me go, oh, it's interesting seeing it from

624
00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:56,121
Speaker 3: a guy's point of view because I have like got

625
00:33:56,201 --> 00:34:00,121
Speaker 3: drunk and hooked up with the girl and then I'm like,

626
00:34:00,281 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: is that I'm like text text text, cold, cold, cold,

627
00:34:03,961 --> 00:34:06,001
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, that is just fun. That was

628
00:34:06,041 --> 00:34:07,001
Speaker 3: just silly.

629
00:34:07,281 --> 00:34:08,881
Speaker 1: How's your sex life at the moment.

630
00:34:09,761 --> 00:34:19,601
Speaker 3: Like it's hot and cold? No, I have this weird thing.

631
00:34:20,441 --> 00:34:23,561
Speaker 3: No cobwebs. And don't get me wrong, there has been

632
00:34:24,161 --> 00:34:26,281
Speaker 3: I go through stages. I was talking to a government

633
00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:30,521
Speaker 3: on the weekend where she's like, those cobwebs are getting bigger, right,

634
00:34:31,441 --> 00:34:34,361
Speaker 3: And this guy was playing so many games with her

635
00:34:34,761 --> 00:34:37,121
Speaker 3: and she just wanted to have sex. And his another tip,

636
00:34:37,161 --> 00:34:40,161
Speaker 3: boys stop playing games because sometimes girls just want to

637
00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:44,041
Speaker 3: have sex. And he was so insecure and doing all

638
00:34:44,041 --> 00:34:46,321
Speaker 3: the stuff that we could read straight through.

639
00:34:46,561 --> 00:34:49,001
Speaker 1: What's a signal? Tell me? What's a signal if a

640
00:34:49,041 --> 00:34:50,921
Speaker 1: girl wants sex? Tell me that? What's the signal?

641
00:34:51,161 --> 00:34:58,401
Speaker 3: Are you up? Signal? Is like, that's a good question,

642
00:34:59,681 --> 00:35:00,241
Speaker 3: pretty straight.

643
00:35:00,841 --> 00:35:03,161
Speaker 2: You're saying there, Like what you just said then, is

644
00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:06,041
Speaker 2: you know she always wanted the sex. What's the signal

645
00:35:06,081 --> 00:35:09,081
Speaker 2: for that? Because some girls you can look at girls and.

646
00:35:09,081 --> 00:35:10,481
Speaker 1: Go, oh, she wants a relationship.

647
00:35:11,161 --> 00:35:13,201
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's quite cool for a couple of weeks,

648
00:35:13,441 --> 00:35:14,761
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But then you're saying, there

649
00:35:14,801 --> 00:35:16,401
Speaker 2: the girls that what you know, I just want to

650
00:35:16,401 --> 00:35:17,881
Speaker 2: get into bed? How is that signal?

651
00:35:18,001 --> 00:35:18,201
Speaker 1: Well?

652
00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:20,881
Speaker 3: Like for her, she just got back from overseas and

653
00:35:20,921 --> 00:35:23,961
Speaker 3: she'd been traveling for work. She was exhausted. She was like, honey,

654
00:35:24,281 --> 00:35:27,561
Speaker 3: and so she was message this guy and she messaged

655
00:35:27,601 --> 00:35:29,441
Speaker 3: him She's like, I'm back in town. What are you

656
00:35:29,441 --> 00:35:32,561
Speaker 3: doing tonight? Let's catch up? That's her I won't have sex,

657
00:35:32,601 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: Whereas he got upset because he was like, you didn't

658
00:35:34,481 --> 00:35:36,881
Speaker 3: message me at all while you were away. They'd been

659
00:35:36,921 --> 00:35:40,361
Speaker 3: on two dates. I was always messaging you, and she

660
00:35:40,481 --> 00:35:42,081
Speaker 3: was like, I just want to have sex with him,

661
00:35:42,361 --> 00:35:43,561
Speaker 3: and he's making it this.

662
00:35:43,481 --> 00:35:44,961
Speaker 1: Whole thing making over.

663
00:35:45,161 --> 00:35:46,681
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like cock locked himself.

664
00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:53,441
Speaker 1: So we've asked that one about. Okay, what's your fantasy?

665
00:35:53,681 --> 00:35:57,601
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's so many firemon thomas.

666
00:35:59,681 --> 00:36:01,481
Speaker 1: What.

667
00:36:02,081 --> 00:36:04,881
Speaker 3: Oh I love a farmer. Oh my god, wife is

668
00:36:04,921 --> 00:36:08,281
Speaker 3: like I think so I think I dated a farmer.

669
00:36:08,361 --> 00:36:11,001
Speaker 3: I dated a farmer from farmer into wife. Oh my god.

670
00:36:11,041 --> 00:36:13,481
Speaker 3: He was so sexy. He would come back from the

671
00:36:13,521 --> 00:36:16,601
Speaker 3: farm and he would like smell of kind of bo.

672
00:36:16,961 --> 00:36:20,401
Speaker 3: But it was like hard days work bo. And you

673
00:36:20,441 --> 00:36:24,841
Speaker 3: know he rode horses. Yeah, oh no, big fan of traders,

674
00:36:25,081 --> 00:36:29,601
Speaker 3: big fan of trades. I have his debate with men

675
00:36:29,641 --> 00:36:32,361
Speaker 3: all the time because and every girl will agree. You

676
00:36:32,401 --> 00:36:34,281
Speaker 3: can tell if you like a guy, if you kind

677
00:36:34,321 --> 00:36:37,281
Speaker 3: of like his bo. There's some weird like there's some

678
00:36:38,401 --> 00:36:41,641
Speaker 3: like we have pheromones. Women have pheromones. Men have like

679
00:36:41,721 --> 00:36:46,281
Speaker 3: the weird bo pheromone thing which is turns girls on.

680
00:36:46,841 --> 00:36:51,281
Speaker 3: It's why I'm married at first sight, they get them to. Yeah,

681
00:36:51,281 --> 00:36:54,161
Speaker 3: it's a thing. It's a thing, like that's why a

682
00:36:54,241 --> 00:36:57,201
Speaker 3: guy can get home from a hard day's work and

683
00:36:57,241 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: we're like, we're good to go. I don't know, it's

684
00:37:00,481 --> 00:37:03,241
Speaker 3: a thing. I can't explain it. There's some scientific rereas

685
00:37:03,241 --> 00:37:05,081
Speaker 3: and I wrote about it a few years ago, but

686
00:37:05,521 --> 00:37:07,561
Speaker 3: it's an alpha thing. It goes back to like caveman

687
00:37:07,721 --> 00:37:10,201
Speaker 3: days where he looks like a provider. He's been out,

688
00:37:10,361 --> 00:37:12,921
Speaker 3: you know, being busy. So yeah, farmers really do it

689
00:37:12,961 --> 00:37:21,601
Speaker 3: for me. Heard those cows. Yeah, fantasy, that's a hard one,

690
00:37:21,641 --> 00:37:25,681
Speaker 3: but yeah, fantasy would be like I do, like kind

691
00:37:25,681 --> 00:37:29,361
Speaker 3: of like frisky in the cinema or driving on the

692
00:37:29,361 --> 00:37:32,801
Speaker 3: way home from a day, like I like, I like

693
00:37:32,881 --> 00:37:34,921
Speaker 3: a guy. Even just holding hands on.

694
00:37:34,881 --> 00:37:39,001
Speaker 1: A date is second, but that's like being loving.

695
00:37:40,041 --> 00:37:43,841
Speaker 3: Yeah, touch, but my love language is touch, So anything

696
00:37:43,881 --> 00:37:46,481
Speaker 3: that's like. But then in the opposite, a lot of

697
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:47,801
Speaker 3: guys if they go on a date with you and

698
00:37:47,841 --> 00:37:51,721
Speaker 3: they're two touchy straight up like men, look at the cues,

699
00:37:51,841 --> 00:37:55,081
Speaker 3: follow the cues. If a woman's kind of hunched in

700
00:37:55,201 --> 00:37:58,121
Speaker 3: on herself or really sticking to her side of the table,

701
00:37:58,481 --> 00:38:02,281
Speaker 3: she's not saying grop her, you know, like you're getting

702
00:38:02,281 --> 00:38:08,401
Speaker 3: an Yeah, yeah, you're you just blue board yourself that

703
00:38:08,561 --> 00:38:10,961
Speaker 3: if she had body languages open and she's kind of

704
00:38:11,041 --> 00:38:13,681
Speaker 3: touching her hand or your arm or something. Yeah, they're

705
00:38:13,681 --> 00:38:14,441
Speaker 3: all good signs.

706
00:38:15,401 --> 00:38:18,121
Speaker 1: Sydney men of the worst you said, yeah last.

707
00:38:18,161 --> 00:38:22,801
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they are. Why they just don't well, there's

708
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:28,081
Speaker 3: a couple of oh I know this. Like the weird

709
00:38:28,121 --> 00:38:30,401
Speaker 3: thing is I get guys who see me as a challenge,

710
00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:31,601
Speaker 3: so I.

711
00:38:31,481 --> 00:38:33,121
Speaker 1: Have no I see us a red flag.

712
00:38:33,521 --> 00:38:41,321
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're sane and normal, it's a red flag.

713
00:38:43,281 --> 00:38:45,761
Speaker 3: I get guys who are like, I've had guys take

714
00:38:45,841 --> 00:38:48,921
Speaker 3: one dates and they're like, I am confident I will

715
00:38:48,921 --> 00:38:52,201
Speaker 3: come out of this date and you'll only think good things.

716
00:38:52,201 --> 00:38:54,481
Speaker 3: And it's true. I have been on amazing dates with

717
00:38:54,561 --> 00:39:01,761
Speaker 3: amazing guys. But the what was the question again? Oh yeah,

718
00:39:01,761 --> 00:39:06,281
Speaker 3: but Sydney guys other worse because on the dating apps they.

719
00:39:06,441 --> 00:39:08,721
Speaker 1: Just will But that's a data app.

720
00:39:08,921 --> 00:39:09,841
Speaker 3: Yeah, dating apps is.

721
00:39:09,801 --> 00:39:12,321
Speaker 2: I don't think any man is fucking switched on for

722
00:39:12,361 --> 00:39:14,281
Speaker 2: a data and app. They just put my name's bob

723
00:39:14,281 --> 00:39:16,041
Speaker 2: by names this I do that, you know what I mean?

724
00:39:16,121 --> 00:39:20,401
Speaker 3: Here's my doad fish the gym. Here's all my mates.

725
00:39:20,481 --> 00:39:22,601
Speaker 3: Guess which one I am. Here's me in a hat

726
00:39:22,681 --> 00:39:26,001
Speaker 3: and sunglasses, like, try and guess what I look like.

727
00:39:26,321 --> 00:39:29,801
Speaker 3: Oh this guy a while ago, I had had quite

728
00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:32,081
Speaker 3: a few cocktails and I got home and I was

729
00:39:32,081 --> 00:39:34,801
Speaker 3: going through the other folder in my Instagram because I

730
00:39:34,841 --> 00:39:37,481
Speaker 3: love going in there because it's a hot mess. And

731
00:39:37,721 --> 00:39:41,441
Speaker 3: this guy, this beautiful trucky sent me just a beautiful,

732
00:39:41,441 --> 00:39:44,761
Speaker 3: heartfelt message, and he's like, I'm getting no swipes on Tinder?

733
00:39:45,161 --> 00:39:48,401
Speaker 3: Can I play screenshot my profile and send it to you?

734
00:39:48,441 --> 00:39:50,081
Speaker 3: And can you tell me where I'm going wrong? And

735
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,361
Speaker 3: I had had like four Martaine's, so I was like,

736
00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:55,881
Speaker 3: send it through, let's see. And I looked at it

737
00:39:55,881 --> 00:39:58,561
Speaker 3: and I could pinpoint straight away where he was going wrong.

738
00:39:59,041 --> 00:40:02,081
Speaker 3: And he was in his truck for all of the pictures.

739
00:40:02,121 --> 00:40:04,881
Speaker 3: He was taking pictures really low of like his double.

740
00:40:06,441 --> 00:40:09,841
Speaker 3: He looked. He had like his big trucky shirt, no friends,

741
00:40:09,961 --> 00:40:15,001
Speaker 3: no activities, wide men not smile in photos like he looked.

742
00:40:15,001 --> 00:40:16,521
Speaker 3: He was giving serial killer vibes.

743
00:40:17,321 --> 00:40:19,081
Speaker 1: You don't smile and I do the same.

744
00:40:19,121 --> 00:40:22,961
Speaker 2: Thing is because it's an image thing, Okay, what do

745
00:40:23,001 --> 00:40:26,241
Speaker 2: you mean? So if I because of my background and

746
00:40:26,281 --> 00:40:29,201
Speaker 2: what I've done if I if I take a picture

747
00:40:29,281 --> 00:40:32,441
Speaker 2: and I'm smiling too much, I could come across as

748
00:40:32,441 --> 00:40:33,321
Speaker 2: a pussy.

749
00:40:34,241 --> 00:40:37,681
Speaker 3: No, but usy that. But you've got a beautiful smile

750
00:40:38,201 --> 00:40:42,561
Speaker 3: and women they've found statistically women are more likely to

751
00:40:42,561 --> 00:40:45,801
Speaker 3: swipe right on smiles. So it doesn't matter what you

752
00:40:45,841 --> 00:40:49,441
Speaker 3: look like if you give off a approachable like okay,

753
00:40:49,441 --> 00:40:51,801
Speaker 3: so I'm looking at the photo behind you, right, if

754
00:40:51,841 --> 00:40:55,721
Speaker 3: that was on your say you're on tind Off and

755
00:40:55,761 --> 00:40:58,281
Speaker 3: that was your picture, yeah, you probably would get quite

756
00:40:58,281 --> 00:40:59,161
Speaker 3: a few swhite rides.

757
00:40:59,361 --> 00:41:01,001
Speaker 1: What's what's right? Which one's right? Good?

758
00:41:01,121 --> 00:41:04,161
Speaker 3: That's good, Like that's a yes place okay, But it

759
00:41:04,321 --> 00:41:08,801
Speaker 3: also is kind of giving bit scary bit like.

760
00:41:10,601 --> 00:41:16,961
Speaker 5: I don't funk around, you know, and for like wooing

761
00:41:17,001 --> 00:41:19,441
Speaker 5: a girl, you'd be like I would be a bit

762
00:41:19,481 --> 00:41:21,961
Speaker 5: scared on that date, Like is he really scary?

763
00:41:22,041 --> 00:41:24,041
Speaker 3: Does he have a sense of humor? Can you laugh

764
00:41:24,081 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: at himself? Which is all red flags? Oh, green, green

765
00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:31,641
Speaker 3: flags to girls. I go for red. So that's the problem.

766
00:41:32,201 --> 00:41:36,441
Speaker 3: But this guy, I just went, okay, get out of

767
00:41:36,481 --> 00:41:40,041
Speaker 3: the truck, take pictures with friends. So one picture by yourself,

768
00:41:40,281 --> 00:41:42,041
Speaker 3: keep the beard he in one of them. He had

769
00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,161
Speaker 3: like a beautiful bed. I was like, grow back the beard,

770
00:41:44,721 --> 00:41:48,401
Speaker 3: picked with a friend, pickture out, doing an activity, smiling,

771
00:41:48,641 --> 00:41:51,481
Speaker 3: not looking scary. And he did all that and a

772
00:41:51,481 --> 00:41:53,321
Speaker 3: week later he's like, oh my god, I've been on

773
00:41:53,361 --> 00:41:58,281
Speaker 3: five dates. It was like my happiest moment ever. Yeah,

774
00:41:58,281 --> 00:41:59,321
Speaker 3: I did, but he loved me.

775
00:41:59,361 --> 00:41:59,921
Speaker 1: He loved me.

776
00:42:00,441 --> 00:42:02,841
Speaker 3: I and do know what, as much as people think

777
00:42:02,841 --> 00:42:06,921
Speaker 3: I go rogue, I normally ask for if it's okay.

778
00:42:06,961 --> 00:42:09,361
Speaker 3: Like I'll say to a guy, Hey, that funny thing

779
00:42:09,361 --> 00:42:11,161
Speaker 3: that happened on the date DKFI write about it, and

780
00:42:11,161 --> 00:42:12,601
Speaker 3: they always say, yes, they're fine.

781
00:42:13,161 --> 00:42:16,881
Speaker 1: You've said that Sydney's the worst. What states the best?

782
00:42:17,281 --> 00:42:20,521
Speaker 3: Oh? I love a Melbourne boy. Melbourne boys are kind

783
00:42:20,521 --> 00:42:21,681
Speaker 3: of like American boys.

784
00:42:21,801 --> 00:42:24,281
Speaker 1: Yes is it Melbourne? Because they all dress nice and.

785
00:42:24,161 --> 00:42:27,121
Speaker 3: They do dress well. I love a winter outfit. I

786
00:42:27,161 --> 00:42:30,801
Speaker 3: love a scarf. I love like, oh my god, guys

787
00:42:30,841 --> 00:42:32,561
Speaker 3: in like cotton jumpers.

788
00:42:32,681 --> 00:42:34,761
Speaker 1: Look. I want to say gold Coast.

789
00:42:34,841 --> 00:42:37,441
Speaker 3: Ew No, absolutely not.

790
00:42:37,761 --> 00:42:38,761
Speaker 1: What's worth of the Gold Coast.

791
00:42:39,041 --> 00:42:40,961
Speaker 3: It's like math skies.

792
00:42:41,521 --> 00:42:43,841
Speaker 1: Everything and fake and kind of like that.

793
00:42:44,001 --> 00:42:46,921
Speaker 3: And almost too pretty. Like I feel like if we

794
00:42:46,961 --> 00:42:49,761
Speaker 3: were getting ready for a date, he would spend more

795
00:42:49,761 --> 00:42:51,961
Speaker 3: time getting ready than I would. Yeah, and that's an

796
00:42:52,001 --> 00:42:54,641
Speaker 3: ick to me. I want an alpha like I want

797
00:42:54,681 --> 00:42:59,201
Speaker 3: a guy that's as long as they brush their teeth, shower.

798
00:42:59,641 --> 00:43:03,801
Speaker 1: But you, like you said, only.

799
00:43:03,601 --> 00:43:07,001
Speaker 3: When they get home from a hard day work and

800
00:43:07,081 --> 00:43:07,961
Speaker 3: other times.

801
00:43:09,721 --> 00:43:11,041
Speaker 1: Must be sweating a lot that if he's got to

802
00:43:11,361 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: do another thing.

803
00:43:16,721 --> 00:43:20,721
Speaker 3: No, brush your teeth, groom, whack on some after shave.

804
00:43:21,441 --> 00:43:23,321
Speaker 3: But I don't want those guys that put on like

805
00:43:23,361 --> 00:43:27,361
Speaker 3: the teeth whitening strips and put on fake tan and

806
00:43:27,481 --> 00:43:30,481
Speaker 3: ILL know that to me is gold Coast and that's gross.

807
00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:32,641
Speaker 3: I don't like the man. I like a Melbourne man

808
00:43:32,641 --> 00:43:36,321
Speaker 3: bun where it's like a really thick wood chopper man

809
00:43:36,361 --> 00:43:40,401
Speaker 3: bun with like a nice groomed beard. That's sexy. A

810
00:43:40,681 --> 00:43:41,681
Speaker 3: gold Coast.

811
00:43:41,441 --> 00:43:43,641
Speaker 1: Mantribing someone in the corner.

812
00:43:44,281 --> 00:43:48,401
Speaker 2: No, because I've never seen that before in Melbourne gold

813
00:43:48,401 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: clean cut.

814
00:43:50,241 --> 00:43:53,161
Speaker 3: No, they have beautiful beards, but they have like where

815
00:43:53,281 --> 00:43:56,721
Speaker 3: is it manicured bits. They go to the barber's, they

816
00:43:56,721 --> 00:43:57,241
Speaker 3: go to Barbis.

817
00:43:57,241 --> 00:43:58,601
Speaker 1: Do you go to Barba?

818
00:43:58,721 --> 00:43:59,161
Speaker 3: There you go.

819
00:43:59,241 --> 00:44:01,241
Speaker 1: I just cut my hair, don't play with.

820
00:44:03,321 --> 00:44:07,801
Speaker 3: Like a nice blade. I love really and I love

821
00:44:07,881 --> 00:44:10,761
Speaker 3: men who wear they put beard oil in and it

822
00:44:10,761 --> 00:44:16,041
Speaker 3: smells like eucalyptus or yeah, that's super sexy mm hmm, manicured,

823
00:44:16,081 --> 00:44:21,441
Speaker 3: bit manly, not gold crist girlie. And you know those

824
00:44:21,481 --> 00:44:24,001
Speaker 3: guys in gold Goes, they they've got the tough stickers,

825
00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:32,761
Speaker 3: but they've never used them, you know, like you're Sydney

826
00:44:32,801 --> 00:44:38,401
Speaker 3: and like you don't like yeah, because they'll grunted you.

827
00:44:38,481 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: They'll be like, let's meet at the pub and that's

828
00:44:41,001 --> 00:44:41,401
Speaker 3: their day.

829
00:44:41,481 --> 00:44:41,761
Speaker 1: They're not.

830
00:44:43,481 --> 00:44:56,161
Speaker 3: They sen that's different. What are they? Names? Numbers, Instagram profiles.

831
00:44:56,241 --> 00:44:57,241
Speaker 1: You probably already seen.

832
00:44:59,001 --> 00:45:00,841
Speaker 3: I'm probably already following.

833
00:45:00,481 --> 00:45:06,681
Speaker 1: The everything said the celebrity.

834
00:45:07,201 --> 00:45:11,681
Speaker 3: Yeah, the person who I will never write about, who

835
00:45:11,721 --> 00:45:14,801
Speaker 3: I really really liked. He was a celebrity, but yeah

836
00:45:15,001 --> 00:45:18,321
Speaker 3: I gave him my word And it's so annoying because

837
00:45:18,321 --> 00:45:19,721
Speaker 3: there's so much good content, so.

838
00:45:19,921 --> 00:45:23,321
Speaker 1: You would never write about him. But who was it? Oh?

839
00:45:23,401 --> 00:45:23,961
Speaker 3: His name was?

840
00:45:26,401 --> 00:45:26,881
Speaker 1: Would help?

841
00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:33,801
Speaker 3: No, I would never name him. I've like casually dated

842
00:45:34,681 --> 00:45:40,041
Speaker 3: players and yeah, it's like a ride of passage.

843
00:45:40,281 --> 00:45:41,721
Speaker 1: Players remind me of Gold Coast boys.

844
00:45:41,961 --> 00:45:48,081
Speaker 3: Oh totally, yeah, yeah, and they're good for fun. But like,

845
00:45:48,281 --> 00:45:49,721
Speaker 3: well it was in the paapers.

846
00:45:51,401 --> 00:45:51,961
Speaker 1: I didn't google.

847
00:45:52,481 --> 00:45:57,561
Speaker 3: Why haven't you stopped me. I dated Sambo just for

848
00:45:57,601 --> 00:46:00,001
Speaker 3: a while, and which is funny because he came and

849
00:46:00,041 --> 00:46:02,401
Speaker 3: told me we met, because he told me off about.

850
00:46:04,241 --> 00:46:04,841
Speaker 1: Jesus.

851
00:46:05,081 --> 00:46:06,601
Speaker 3: I told you I have a type.

852
00:46:06,521 --> 00:46:09,241
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ knows going that way.

853
00:46:09,281 --> 00:46:13,321
Speaker 3: And first I broke up and he was facing me

854
00:46:13,361 --> 00:46:16,601
Speaker 3: in his noses Jesus.

855
00:46:17,761 --> 00:46:19,041
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

856
00:46:19,201 --> 00:46:21,241
Speaker 3: He's really nice. I really like him. He's a really

857
00:46:21,281 --> 00:46:23,961
Speaker 3: good guy. I have nothing, nothing bad to just say

858
00:46:24,001 --> 00:46:28,441
Speaker 3: about him when he first came. Yeah, I think he's

859
00:46:28,521 --> 00:46:38,041
Speaker 3: dated half of Sydney, like valid, like amongst all my friends,

860
00:46:38,041 --> 00:46:40,441
Speaker 3: if you haven't passed one of the birds, like have

861
00:46:40,561 --> 00:46:42,561
Speaker 3: you lived in Sydney?

862
00:46:43,441 --> 00:46:49,281
Speaker 1: Is that the only celebrity? Nope? Bring the list out.

863
00:46:49,961 --> 00:46:53,241
Speaker 3: I don't think there is. I don't think I can

864
00:46:53,321 --> 00:46:56,841
Speaker 3: really say weirdly. Weirdly, I didn't know we.

865
00:46:56,681 --> 00:47:00,601
Speaker 1: Were in a swing of society. We couldn't say. If

866
00:47:00,641 --> 00:47:02,121
Speaker 1: it's on Google, you can say.

867
00:47:03,361 --> 00:47:06,401
Speaker 3: Okay, the only ones that are on that I can say,

868
00:47:06,761 --> 00:47:08,961
Speaker 3: like I went on a date with Stevie Jacobs that

869
00:47:09,001 --> 00:47:09,681
Speaker 3: got parked.

870
00:47:11,081 --> 00:47:13,401
Speaker 1: Who's the most Who's the celebrity you'd love to date?

871
00:47:13,681 --> 00:47:17,361
Speaker 3: Oh, brad Bit, that's Brad pitt Bett as his character

872
00:47:17,721 --> 00:47:21,041
Speaker 3: in Legends of the Fall. Oh my god, Tristan, that's

873
00:47:21,081 --> 00:47:30,761
Speaker 3: my dream man. Like deeply broken, I deeply broken, needs

874
00:47:30,761 --> 00:47:36,121
Speaker 3: to be fixed, need some female guidance, but yeah, I

875
00:47:36,161 --> 00:47:36,681
Speaker 3: love him.

876
00:47:37,721 --> 00:47:39,441
Speaker 1: What's so? What's on the agenda then? For you? Then

877
00:47:39,481 --> 00:47:40,361
Speaker 1: in the future tell.

878
00:47:40,241 --> 00:47:43,841
Speaker 3: Me, Well, I am eventually getting out of dating columns

879
00:47:43,921 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: because I do eventually want to date properly and meet

880
00:47:47,561 --> 00:47:51,641
Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't want to get written about. So

881
00:47:51,761 --> 00:47:53,881
Speaker 3: I'm kind of steering the ship at the moment. I've

882
00:47:53,881 --> 00:47:57,761
Speaker 3: got something coming out in two weeks that is outside

883
00:47:57,761 --> 00:47:58,761
Speaker 3: of dating.

884
00:47:58,601 --> 00:48:01,281
Speaker 1: That is outside of DA like TV or radio.

885
00:48:01,801 --> 00:48:05,201
Speaker 3: Still writing, so it's a column a book. I do

886
00:48:05,281 --> 00:48:08,641
Speaker 3: want to do a book eventually, I just haven't really down.

887
00:48:09,041 --> 00:48:11,481
Speaker 1: You can ship themselves. Anyone you've been with would be

888
00:48:11,481 --> 00:48:12,241
Speaker 1: shipping themselves.

889
00:48:13,041 --> 00:48:15,681
Speaker 3: Do you know what? I never name names. I never

890
00:48:15,801 --> 00:48:22,961
Speaker 3: name names, but don't know. I want to. Yeah, I'm steering,

891
00:48:23,201 --> 00:48:26,321
Speaker 3: uh my column in a new direction, so I won't

892
00:48:26,321 --> 00:48:29,201
Speaker 3: be dating anymore so I can date. Probably what it

893
00:48:29,361 --> 00:48:32,041
Speaker 3: is I can't tell yet, I really really, really really

894
00:48:32,081 --> 00:48:32,441
Speaker 3: want to.

895
00:48:32,721 --> 00:48:34,401
Speaker 1: How long you've got left in the dating column? How

896
00:48:34,441 --> 00:48:36,401
Speaker 1: long you left that when you pain?

897
00:48:36,681 --> 00:48:40,801
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it will come to a

898
00:48:40,921 --> 00:48:45,881
Speaker 3: natural you can do and think that, but the new

899
00:48:45,881 --> 00:48:48,081
Speaker 3: things come along. The crazy thing is with dating at

900
00:48:48,081 --> 00:48:51,721
Speaker 3: the moment, Like when you were probably dating, it would

901
00:48:51,761 --> 00:48:54,681
Speaker 3: have been like back in your days, and to be fair,

902
00:48:54,721 --> 00:49:03,921
Speaker 3: my days, you would were you dating around the dating app.

903
00:49:03,761 --> 00:49:05,881
Speaker 1: Times dating they've gone with data.

904
00:49:06,361 --> 00:49:09,281
Speaker 3: See see that's old school dating.

905
00:49:09,801 --> 00:49:10,881
Speaker 1: My club and ship like that.

906
00:49:11,041 --> 00:49:13,121
Speaker 2: Or if I seen someone in the shopping centre and

907
00:49:13,121 --> 00:49:14,921
Speaker 2: they worked, and I'd go in there a couple of

908
00:49:15,001 --> 00:49:16,761
Speaker 2: times and then go in and fucking buy something, which

909
00:49:16,801 --> 00:49:17,601
Speaker 2: I didn't really want to do.

910
00:49:18,441 --> 00:49:28,481
Speaker 4: That's what I meant, Navy, but that's that's how I

911
00:49:28,561 --> 00:49:29,161
Speaker 4: used to date.

912
00:49:29,321 --> 00:49:31,081
Speaker 3: I used to go to the Mean Fiddler and like

913
00:49:31,161 --> 00:49:34,881
Speaker 3: you mean, yes, really.

914
00:49:35,521 --> 00:49:36,001
Speaker 1: In the hills.

915
00:49:36,201 --> 00:49:39,721
Speaker 3: Oh well, I used to go there back when there

916
00:49:39,841 --> 00:49:43,921
Speaker 3: was like like dairy farms around the Mean Fiddler. That's

917
00:49:43,921 --> 00:49:46,161
Speaker 3: when I used to go there. That was where I

918
00:49:46,161 --> 00:49:48,001
Speaker 3: had my first eighteenth drink and it was a madoor

919
00:49:48,721 --> 00:49:52,401
Speaker 3: Jesus so and you would kind of bump into a

920
00:49:52,441 --> 00:49:54,281
Speaker 3: guy in the dance floor. You'd get your best friends

921
00:49:54,321 --> 00:49:56,521
Speaker 3: to push you into a guy, and that was how

922
00:49:56,521 --> 00:49:59,321
Speaker 3: you met and there was the person you'd kind of grind.

923
00:49:59,441 --> 00:50:03,361
Speaker 3: Oh I miss those days, But these days, the needle

924
00:50:03,441 --> 00:50:06,761
Speaker 3: keeps moving on dating, so so I always think I'm

925
00:50:06,801 --> 00:50:08,881
Speaker 3: going to run out of things to write about, and

926
00:50:08,921 --> 00:50:15,401
Speaker 3: then they introduce bread crumbing or snowflaking or gas lighting.

927
00:50:16,081 --> 00:50:23,681
Speaker 3: Snowflaking is it's like when girls are bad for this,

928
00:50:23,841 --> 00:50:26,401
Speaker 3: boys are bad for it too. It's kind of like hibernating.

929
00:50:26,521 --> 00:50:28,441
Speaker 3: So in summer we all run a mark and we

930
00:50:28,561 --> 00:50:32,241
Speaker 3: pash boys and we get around, and then in winter,

931
00:50:32,441 --> 00:50:34,161
Speaker 3: no one wants to go out. They don't want to

932
00:50:34,201 --> 00:50:36,201
Speaker 3: leave the house. They want to stay in their comfy clothes.

933
00:50:36,241 --> 00:50:39,561
Speaker 3: So we kind of shuck up with a guy for winter,

934
00:50:40,081 --> 00:50:41,521
Speaker 3: and then we get rid of them in summer and

935
00:50:41,561 --> 00:50:47,001
Speaker 3: have fun again. Yeah yeah, yeah, I think that was

936
00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:58,881
Speaker 3: my bird. I think it was my lockdown. But bread crumbing,

937
00:50:58,921 --> 00:51:01,201
Speaker 3: which is where a guy will kind of they don't

938
00:51:01,361 --> 00:51:03,761
Speaker 3: know if they don't want you to be their girlfriend,

939
00:51:03,761 --> 00:51:05,921
Speaker 3: but they really love having you one call, so they'll

940
00:51:06,001 --> 00:51:08,481
Speaker 3: kind of bread crumb you. They'll throw you a few breadcrumbs,

941
00:51:08,681 --> 00:51:10,801
Speaker 3: so you kind of always stay a little bit interested.

942
00:51:11,601 --> 00:51:14,321
Speaker 3: And then there's ghosting, and then there's gas lighting, where

943
00:51:14,401 --> 00:51:17,161
Speaker 3: like you're dating a guy and then he cheats and

944
00:51:17,161 --> 00:51:19,841
Speaker 3: then you call him an asshole, and he goes, no,

945
00:51:19,961 --> 00:51:23,361
Speaker 3: you're seeing it wrong, you're acting crazy. You know. There's

946
00:51:23,401 --> 00:51:26,521
Speaker 3: all different things, so they're always inventing new, different aspects

947
00:51:26,561 --> 00:51:28,641
Speaker 3: of dating, so there's always something to write about.

948
00:51:29,401 --> 00:51:33,881
Speaker 1: This has been very fascinating, really lovely. I was actually

949
00:51:33,921 --> 00:51:35,561
Speaker 1: shit scared to have your own, but now it's it's

950
00:51:35,601 --> 00:51:38,161
Speaker 1: all right. Now I like it.

951
00:51:38,281 --> 00:51:39,121
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me