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Speaker 5: Oh that's the blueprint for the new Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 6: But how will it actually work?
Speaker 5: Maybe that could make a reality TV show out of
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Speaker 1: Well Richer and James.
Speaker 2: I'm wearing black today to mourn the death of common
Speaker 2: sense and integrity in the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: What could I possibly be referring to Rita.
Speaker 6: Oh, I've got some ideas.
Speaker 5: Could it be this hair brained notion that will just
Speaker 5: ban under sixty means from social media?
Speaker 6: That's the find no way around that.
Speaker 5: There's no unintended consequences with the policy, this idiotic. I
Speaker 5: acknowledge it's well intentioned. I acknowledge that at the start
Speaker 5: there was an acknowledgment that young people were having harms
Speaker 5: caused by the amount of time they was on social media,
Speaker 5: the content that were consuming, how they were interacting, that's
Speaker 5: a given.
Speaker 6: But that's like.
Speaker 5: Saying, oh, we're a little bit fat as a population,
Speaker 5: let's just such.
Speaker 6: A fifty percent fat tax on everything. That's not how
Speaker 6: you deal with this.
Speaker 5: And their unintended consequences here are grim. They're far reaching,
Speaker 5: and they're going to impact everybody. It's not going to
Speaker 5: be impacting just the under sixteen.
Speaker 6: And for a.
Speaker 5: Liberal party that's supposed to be about free expression liberty,
Speaker 5: this is completely against those principles. It's very hard for
Speaker 5: Peter Juntan to really coherently explain this position. It's the
Speaker 5: sort of thing that on the surface level, sounds good.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it tests well at focus groups and tests
Speaker 5: well amongst people who don't actually use social media. I
Speaker 5: don't understand the platform, which sadly is probably most of
Speaker 5: the politicians who really don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And reads are on that point.
Speaker 2: Anybody who sits in a focus group. Let me trust
Speaker 2: I've been in enough focus groups. Anyone who's sitting there,
Speaker 2: they don't have any friends, and they're certainly not on
Speaker 2: social media. That's in sorry focus groups, by the way,
Speaker 2: our focus group that's testing outsiders. So yeah, we love it,
Speaker 2: fantastic focus here's your twenty.
Speaker 4: Five dollars valture. But you free. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: But look, I mean, the thing is, as reader says,
Speaker 10: this is you know, on one level, you know, we
Speaker 10: know that Jonathan hate arguments. We know that social media
Speaker 10: is really bad for kids. It's bad for young people.
Speaker 10: The algorithms are rewiring kids' minds. They can't concentrate. This
Speaker 10: is all the stuff that is absolutely true. The problem
Speaker 10: is the way that they've gone about this I mean
Speaker 10: as a matter of just democratic process too, just smashing
Speaker 10: this through with barely any inquiry on this, and then
Speaker 10: we're gonna have Matt canavan on talking a bit more
Speaker 10: about this later. But you know, there was no consideration
Speaker 10: actually how this is going to work. We all have seen,
Speaker 10: many of us seen the clips of Matt canavan questioning
Speaker 10: what you know, the bureaucrats were going to do about.
Speaker 4: This, and they had no answers, They had no idea.
Speaker 10: One of the things that's amazing to me is this
Speaker 10: idea that somehow the apps can determine when you're fifteen
Speaker 10: years and three hundred and fifty five days old versus
Speaker 10: sixteen years and one day old.
Speaker 5: Seo years old, what's going to happen here? The kids
Speaker 5: that growing up on this, this is how they communicate.
Speaker 5: I think on a level, it's actually really quite cruel
Speaker 5: to take away the means where a lot of these
Speaker 5: kids find connection, that communicate, they find their people. And
Speaker 5: even I don't want to be given credit here to
Speaker 5: Julian mcgrant, the Safety commissioner, but it's something she is
Speaker 5: acknowledged and legislation will empower her office like never before.
Speaker 5: So that's just another reason why to be cautious about it.
Speaker 5: But this is a way where people, particularly vulnerable kids,
Speaker 5: find others who look at life the same way. And
Speaker 5: you know, they may not have them in their friendship group.
Speaker 5: They might not find those people. It's we find a try,
Speaker 5: but they might find someone like that.
Speaker 1: It's modern means, it's the modern marketplace. It's completely insane still,
Speaker 1: but let's just go through it.
Speaker 2: It is bad politics first and foremost for the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party and the Labor Party. For the Liberal Party to
Speaker 2: be this close to an election and not opposing every
Speaker 2: single thing Labor do, because that's what you should be doing,
Speaker 2: Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: That's how you win elections.
Speaker 2: You don't sit there going, oh we quite agree, we
Speaker 2: agree with them on this. Oh yeah, they've got a
Speaker 2: point on that. That's how you lose elections. So first thing,
Speaker 2: bad bad political decision in.
Speaker 1: Every shape and way.
Speaker 2: You should have let Anthony Albini swing in the breeze
Speaker 2: on this one, because Albinizi does not have a clue
Speaker 2: about this pro about this policy. He doesn't understand it,
Speaker 2: he's got no idea how it works. So bad policy,
Speaker 2: bad politics, and bad policy because it's unenforceable. You never
Speaker 2: make a law if you can't enforce it, because it
Speaker 2: will backfire. Have a listened to Alberanisi attempting and failing
Speaker 2: as usual, which is what he's best at, to explain
Speaker 2: how this idiotic idea is going to work.
Speaker 12: Should Australians be prepared for having their faces scanned to
Speaker 12: use social media? Should they be prepared to upload their
Speaker 12: documents some sort of government database that social media companies
Speaker 12: going to tap into for age verification?
Speaker 13: I mean, what are the options here?
Speaker 12: As you said, the assurance trial hasn't hasn't been finalized yet.
Speaker 14: Well, this is exactly what the age assurance trial is informing.
Speaker 1: He couldn't even answer it. He had to look to
Speaker 1: his sidekick.
Speaker 2: Now Here, we are heading into an election which could
Speaker 2: be as close as age or ten weeks away, probably
Speaker 2: for a couple of months away, three or four months away.
Speaker 2: We're heading into an election and here's alban EASi clueless
Speaker 2: about a policy, and we could have the Liberals sitting
Speaker 2: there saying, look at that bloke, What an idiot. That
Speaker 2: sums up everything this government's about. They don't know what
Speaker 2: they're doing, they don't know what they're doing on energy,
Speaker 2: they don't know what they're doing on boarders. They don't
Speaker 2: know what they're doing with Israel, they don't know what
Speaker 2: they're doing with anything.
Speaker 4: Look at them.
Speaker 2: They've completely stuffed up this social media thing. That's what
Speaker 2: they should have been doing. Instead they're sitting there going,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, what a good idea, you morons.
Speaker 4: And I cannot believe it.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine said to me this morning.
Speaker 15: His thirteen year old son is saying to him, Dad,
Speaker 15: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: Why can't I go.
Speaker 1: On social media?
Speaker 15: What have you done, you liberal body to it generation
Speaker 15: of people who would have been supporting you. I cannot
Speaker 15: believe the uts of stupidity.
Speaker 2: Fire every single advisor in the Dutton team, Fire every
Speaker 2: single one. They should be off tomorrow. They do not
Speaker 2: deserve to be in a job, certainly not heading towards
Speaker 2: an election retail well on.
Speaker 5: The back of the disastrous disinformation misinformation build that the
Speaker 5: alban Easy government had to raw after being humiliated knowing
Speaker 5: they were going to lose in the Senate. They would
Speaker 5: have lost this in the Senate without the coalition support,
Speaker 5: because we know the Greens were against, with enough crossbenches
Speaker 5: against it.
Speaker 6: And yet the coalition.
Speaker 5: Has said no, no, no, let us help you pass
Speaker 5: these awful laws.
Speaker 6: Give you a big win on the board. Politically it
Speaker 6: is idiotic.
Speaker 5: But we talked about the under sixties will probably find
Speaker 5: a way around it, because this is what they do.
Speaker 6: That unsmad sixty over sixties.
Speaker 5: Who don't know about VPNs, who don't know how to
Speaker 5: get around this, and who don't want to submit to
Speaker 5: online identity. They don't want to submit to any sort
Speaker 5: of identification to just access X or Instagram. So they'll
Speaker 5: be the ones who miss out. And what about the inconsistencies, James,
Speaker 5: The kids can still go on pornhups, they can act
Speaker 5: hardcore porn, but they can't be.
Speaker 6: On X or Instagram.
Speaker 10: Well yeah, I mean, look is just the absolutely most
Speaker 10: disgraceful thing. I mean, you know this is this is
Speaker 10: this government here talks about you know, things like you know,
Speaker 10: the treatment of women, misogyny and all sorts of things
Speaker 10: like that, and yet you know, on your phone these
Speaker 10: kids can get pumped into them just the worst sort
Speaker 10: of most misogynistic pornography you know, you can imagine. And
Speaker 10: somehow that's okay. But the other thing too, politically, there's
Speaker 10: another point of this here. You know, this is what
Speaker 10: Albanez he does when he doesn't have something to do
Speaker 10: about cost of living. So let's remember, cost of living
Speaker 10: is the number one issue. We saw this in the
Speaker 10: United States at the last election there, We're going to
Speaker 10: see that in this election. Everywhere around the world. It's
Speaker 10: constantly and costly cost living. This whole idea that you know,
Speaker 10: we've got you back, that's clearly the new Albanize government slogan.
Speaker 10: This does absolutely nothing to help with the price of
Speaker 10: energy and the price of petrol, the price of groceries,
Speaker 10: the price of the price of borgage, your kids getting
Speaker 10: into a house, any of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Doesn't do any.
Speaker 10: Of that stuff, but it creates the illusion of action
Speaker 10: when in fact, you know, I think we've pretty much
Speaker 10: established as Roland. You said, this law is basically unenforceable. Technologically,
Speaker 10: it's not going to happen, or if it does happen,
Speaker 10: it happens in such a way that it basically makes
Speaker 10: Australia the sort of backwater.
Speaker 4: On the interview.
Speaker 2: COVID on steroids, and this is the joke about the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: We know, the dystopian the world is laughing at us.
Speaker 2: Well done, blokes at guys and girls over there in
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party have listened to Jason Clair, one of
Speaker 2: the labor ministers, proving James's point that this thing is
Speaker 2: completely unworkable. They even know it's unworkable. Have listened to
Speaker 2: Jason Clare.
Speaker 16: Now, I don't think it will be Yeah, they've got
Speaker 16: to take reasonable steps, that's the language in the legislation
Speaker 16: to make sure that there isn't someone under the age
Speaker 16: of sixteen on their platform.
Speaker 1: You know, they should be doing that now.
Speaker 16: And Instagram said that they were going to up the
Speaker 16: endy a couple of months ago on this.
Speaker 8: So what could they do that besides a facial recognition
Speaker 8: or something.
Speaker 1: How are they going to work that up?
Speaker 16: Maybe it's important to make the point none of this
Speaker 16: is going to be perfect now. None of this is
Speaker 16: going to make sure that every child under the age
Speaker 16: of sixteen is not going to end up on TikTok
Speaker 16: in the same way that there's you know, young people
Speaker 16: under the age of eighteen that can get access to
Speaker 16: alcohol as well, which was.
Speaker 2: The whole argument, which is the whole point of doing
Speaker 2: so you've just admitted that things complete failure. The only
Speaker 2: people as Rita said, who will miss out are the
Speaker 2: grandparents who are sitting there going, why can't I talk
Speaker 2: to little Johnny, you know, on the other side of
Speaker 2: the country, my weekly chat with my grandkids on the
Speaker 2: grand can be Sorry, brand I'm not allowed on social media.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: They're the only people who will suffer other grandparents, trust me, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: I don't have a point here.
Speaker 5: All that, But because if they don't want to have
Speaker 5: some sort of online identity check, if they don't want
Speaker 5: to submit to that, could they can't establish their.
Speaker 6: Overseiness social media?
Speaker 1: People only lose out of this.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 10: Here's the thing, a law that, as Jesson clear has acknowledged,
Speaker 10: will be flouted by every buddy.
Speaker 4: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen.
Speaker 10: The rules here say that, you know, it has to
Speaker 10: be about reasonable steps. So every company will say we're
Speaker 10: taking reasonable steps. And then what this here could also
Speaker 10: be is a way too for the government to say
Speaker 10: we don't like the way this particular company's algorithm is
Speaker 10: working I e X and the sort of stories and
Speaker 10: news they're promoting. So therefore, oh, enforcement wise, we're going
Speaker 10: to take a look, particularly at X about this. Now,
Speaker 10: every single social media company will be in technical violation
Speaker 10: of this. So this, you know, sort of damocles will
Speaker 10: hang over every social media is company to companies head
Speaker 10: and this is how the government will then be able
Speaker 10: to leaverridge control over what Australians would see on their.
Speaker 2: FeAs control and read to the whole point is they're
Speaker 2: already going, oh YouTube, that's in, No it's out, or
Speaker 2: the Wiggles said let's keep it in, so it's in,
Speaker 2: you know once that what do we think? This is
Speaker 2: government control? As James says, this is draconian. This will
Speaker 2: be COVID on steroids.
Speaker 5: Well in and we already have had the Safety Commissioner
Speaker 5: have this.
Speaker 6: I was going to say fat while, but I don't
Speaker 6: want to be sued. Vendetta is a better word.
Speaker 5: Vendetta against Elon Musk, against X because X is the
Speaker 5: only platform that tries to have some semblance of balance,
Speaker 5: not to suppress conservatives, ban conservatives. That's still happening on
Speaker 5: Instagram and Facebook, on Zuckerberg's platforms, so X and they
Speaker 5: did some research on this and CNN reported this recently
Speaker 5: is now almost.
Speaker 6: Fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: It's still a little bit more left leaning as far
Speaker 5: as you look at the US. There's still a few
Speaker 5: more Democrats than Republicans on it, but it's the closest
Speaker 5: we have got to actually having some equality and a genuine,
Speaker 5: really free speech platform.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure reader.
Speaker 6: Going to be targeted. It's going to be Elon Master already.
Speaker 10: Do you remember when the Bishop Mamoun was stabbed out
Speaker 10: in Western Sydney, they made a move to censor the
Speaker 10: video of that event specifically on X. It was all
Speaker 10: about that, and we know that Julian mcgrant has absolutely
Speaker 10: no love lost for for Elon Musk. So it's a
Speaker 10: you know, this is about this sort of disruptive pro freedom,
Speaker 10: pro information versus the gatekeepers. And it's really funny to see,
Speaker 10: you know, labor on the side of the gatekeepers here.
Speaker 10: They want to they want to gatekeeper what you're allowed
Speaker 10: to say. The big problem that everybody has with X,
Speaker 10: the problem that everybody has that's leaving X they're probably
Speaker 10: you know, is that people are allowed to say things
Speaker 10: on IT that is not being sens out. They're going, oh,
Speaker 10: X is terrible because people are allowed to say and
Speaker 10: report things and you get raw floods of things, you know,
Speaker 10: and there against that. It shows why so much of
Speaker 10: the mainstream media is in real difficulty.
Speaker 2: Now I want to move on talking about banning. They're
Speaker 2: banning people now from Parliament as well. Lydia Thorpe has
Speaker 2: been was banned from the Senate this week. Let's have
Speaker 2: a listen to Lydia Thorpe yelling out some pretty vile
Speaker 2: Palestinian garbage, which seems to be her latest thing.
Speaker 6: Yes, very very palist.
Speaker 7: I call the clerk.
Speaker 17: I call the clerk.
Speaker 1: She is tiresome and painful, rita. What do you make
Speaker 1: of her being tossed out of the Senate for the
Speaker 1: day or whatever?
Speaker 5: That she's comical at this point, Lydia self parody it is.
Speaker 5: It's almost amusing because there are people whose voting record
Speaker 5: in the Upper House is as abysmal as hers. At
Speaker 5: least she brings some entertainment. So it's hard for me
Speaker 5: to be genuinely angry at her because she's a character,
Speaker 5: almost a characterture that has been enabled by the far
Speaker 5: left and the left generally in this country. This just
Speaker 5: almost from central casting her belief system. It's just so idiotic,
Speaker 5: so intellectually vacuous. But you know what, I can find
Speaker 5: far more glowing media reports and features on Lydia Thorpe
Speaker 5: and you know when she was first elected and came
Speaker 5: in holding her fist up and you know, and that
Speaker 5: sort of identity politics has been so celebrated in this
Speaker 5: country that we shouldn't be surprised that.
Speaker 2: You're right, she's the logical conclusion of the education system
Speaker 2: and that we have in this country. She's the logical
Speaker 2: conclusion of where the media pushed many of the arguments.
Speaker 10: Well, no, that's exactly right. And the other thing too
Speaker 10: about Lydia Thorpe is that you know, she left her
Speaker 10: party and so you know, this is something I think
Speaker 10: that we really need to have a real think about
Speaker 10: in this country too, is when you are collected to
Speaker 10: a party on a ticket, you're elected, set a ticket,
Speaker 10: you know it's not you who's running specifically, and then
Speaker 10: you get into the Senate and then you ditch that party.
Speaker 4: Well, what's what's the reason for you being there? You
Speaker 4: shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Someone who did that was, of course, Fatima Payman.
Speaker 2: I'll be talking later on in the show where she
Speaker 2: and Lydia Thorpe belong in clown show.
Speaker 6: Of course, yes, disgraceful.
Speaker 5: I don't think enough has been said that I think,
Speaker 5: at least with Lydia these days, after the you know,
Speaker 5: the glowing commentaries died down, she now actually does have
Speaker 5: some scrutiny, including from the media.
Speaker 6: But payment what she did.
Speaker 5: This week, and I know you're going to be talking
Speaker 5: about it later in the program. I thought that was
Speaker 5: one of the most disgusting things I've seen on the Australia.
Speaker 1: Let's just show what we're talking about.
Speaker 18: In another statement, she says, we're bringing in people from
Speaker 18: South Africa at the moment, there's a huge amount coming
Speaker 18: into Australia who.
Speaker 6: Have disease, they've got AIDS. If that is not racist,
Speaker 6: what is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, she said a lot more than that. That's I'm
Speaker 5: sure we'll be playing it later in the program. The
Speaker 5: comments she made towards Senator Hanson were absolutely despicable, beneath contempt,
Speaker 5: and I think.
Speaker 6: She gets away with it because she wears a jab.
Speaker 5: She's a picture of diversity in Australia and I can
Speaker 5: tell you wearing a huge ab should not give you
Speaker 5: a pass for behaving that way.
Speaker 1: In part well, what was worse to have the.
Speaker 2: Way she behaved James, was that she accused Senator Hanson
Speaker 2: of racism based on some comments a legitimate comment from
Speaker 2: twenty thirty years ago about people with HIV or AIDS
Speaker 2: coming in from an area which had a large population
Speaker 2: that had HIV AIDS, so a perfectly legitimate medical comment
Speaker 2: which Payment but also accused her of racism. But what
Speaker 2: is sickening is that Fatima Payman. I don't hear her
Speaker 2: calling out racism. When we have people marching up and
Speaker 2: down the streets with their anti Semitic behavior, smashing cars
Speaker 2: in Wallara, smashing Christmas decorations outside Myers, yelling about.
Speaker 1: F the Jews or where's the Jews.
Speaker 2: Or anything else. We don't hear a word from Fatima Payment.
Speaker 2: That's racism. Fatima Payment, what you condone or or what
Speaker 2: you don't condemn? Sorry, I'll rephrase out what you fail
Speaker 2: to condemn.
Speaker 6: There, that is, and did you walk past?
Speaker 4: Did you walk past?
Speaker 10: The one thing I will say in her defense is
Speaker 10: that she did essentially kill off the misinformation bill, So
Speaker 10: you can kind of give her a little bit of
Speaker 10: credit for that one there. But you know that said though,
Speaker 10: there's also have a huge problem with this whole idea
Speaker 10: of policing the lines of debate what are acceptable things,
Speaker 10: what are unacceptable things to talk about, which is exactly
Speaker 10: what her and the left when they entertained her are
Speaker 10: trying to do. And you know, we're talking a bit
Speaker 10: later in the program about you know, the way even
Speaker 10: on the left people are talking about immigration in ways
Speaker 10: that they weren't you know, even a year ago in
Speaker 10: Britain and places like that. We do not need more
Speaker 10: policing of debate on these matters.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we've also seen in Victoria they've honored an
Speaker 2: interesting choice for honors award.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, yeah, this is a woman who sign it's Victoria,
Speaker 6: It's Victoria. What can you say?
Speaker 5: This is a woman who has disputed the sexual violence,
Speaker 5: the rapes that happened on October seven, who has said
Speaker 5: that Hezbolla is not a terror group, who has defended
Speaker 5: some of the most vile anti semitism we see out
Speaker 5: of from Palestinians, saying that's their lived experience. It's and
Speaker 5: to be put on an honor roll for women in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four by a Victorian government minister, it just
Speaker 5: shows you how broken Victoria is. It's depressing as a Victorian.
Speaker 6: It's a state that's.
Speaker 5: Not only broke, and I say that not to engage
Speaker 5: in hyperbole. It's broke biggest state debt in the country
Speaker 5: by far land tax, payroll tax, the state taxes.
Speaker 6: Are through the roof.
Speaker 5: People are hurting, people are fleeing, and then on top
Speaker 5: of that, to have things like that happen that are
Speaker 5: just demoralizing for normal people.
Speaker 6: Victoria's in a lot.
Speaker 2: Of trouble, absolutely so as the country when you've got
Speaker 2: people like Penny Wong wandering around suggesting that, for example,
Speaker 2: Benjamin would be arrested if he came into this country,
Speaker 2: and she's suggested that she would abide by the law.
Speaker 5: Just before we finish up on the senator payment, the
Speaker 5: comment that really I thought was out of bounds is
Speaker 5: when she said that Senator Hanson is a disgrace to
Speaker 5: the human race. That's to say something that dehumanizing about
Speaker 5: a fellow anybody, fellow Australian, I think is just absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 5: And I hope there's an apology in the future and
Speaker 5: we can numb because we.
Speaker 2: Wait with Beaty Brown after the break more Rita her
Speaker 2: reality check us across to London to get the latest
Speaker 2: in UK politics.
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Speaker 5: and I'm Rita Panaghy And every night on the Riata
Speaker 5: Panehy show we feed left is losing it, and people
Speaker 5: do ask me very regularly, how do you come up
Speaker 5: with so many examples of so called progressives be clowning themselves?
Speaker 6: And the honest answer is there.
Speaker 5: Is always far more material than there is time, no
Speaker 5: shortage of content. As to the question of whether we
Speaker 5: should so mercilessly mock the leftist saloons, well, consider fact
Speaker 5: that these self delighted, delusional miscreants are happy to call
Speaker 5: you a Nazi, a fascist, a bigot for holding views
Speaker 5: like men can't have babies. They call you racist for
Speaker 5: wanting everyone to be treated equally instead of giving special
Speaker 5: privileges based on color ethnicity. They backed every totalitarian measure
Speaker 5: to punish those who challenge the insane COVID era overreach,
Speaker 5: including every unscientific, draconian rule. They were more than happy
Speaker 5: for people to lose their livelihoods to be punished for
Speaker 5: not abiding by these illogical, illiberal orders.
Speaker 6: Again and again they have shown who they are.
Speaker 5: So no, I don't have any qualms about mocking them silly.
Speaker 5: After all, the left has all the institutional power. They have,
Speaker 5: the universities, government bodies, the big corporates, Hollywood entertainment industry.
Speaker 6: They are right for some humbling and talking about Hollywood.
Speaker 5: More than one star will feature in today's top five
Speaker 5: Lefties Losing.
Speaker 6: It meltdowns of the week.
Speaker 5: Coming in at number five is Sharon Stone, proving that
Speaker 5: wisdom does not always come with age. Some folk just
Speaker 5: get dumber and double down on the breathtaking ignorance.
Speaker 6: Here she is in Italy mouthing off about the election result.
Speaker 19: You know, Italy has seen fascism. Italy has seen these things.
Speaker 19: You guys, you understand what happens. You have seen this before.
Speaker 19: Americans who don't travel, who eighty percent don't have a passport,
Speaker 19: who are uneducated, are in their extraordinary naivete.
Speaker 6: Oh she's not just bitter and hateful.
Speaker 5: She's also as dumb as a box of rocks. And
Speaker 5: that line about eighty percent of Americans not having a
Speaker 5: passport is a myth. Around one in two Americans have
Speaker 5: a passport. Maybe she was mixing America up with Japan,
Speaker 5: or only about twenty percent of citizens have a passport.
Speaker 6: Now let's get to number four.
Speaker 5: I love nothing more than watching Lefty's turn on each other.
Speaker 5: And in the aftermath of Kamala's humiliating loss, we have
Speaker 5: the old guard, the veteran Democrats like strategist James Carvell,
Speaker 5: turning on the young progressives.
Speaker 17: Not only am I not interested in your opinion, I'm
Speaker 17: not even going to call you by your name. You're
Speaker 17: twenty three years old. I don't really give it. What
Speaker 17: is think if I were run in a twenty twenty
Speaker 17: eight campaign and I had some little snot nosed, twenty
Speaker 17: three year old saying I'm going to resign if you
Speaker 17: don't do this, Not only would I fired on the spot,
Speaker 17: I would find out who hired them and fire that
Speaker 17: person on the spot. I'm really not interested and you're uninformed,
Speaker 17: stupid jackass opinion.
Speaker 6: Kind of I'm warming to him. I've got to sign
Speaker 6: a few philosophies there.
Speaker 5: We can pick up now another Hollywood simpleton who is
Speaker 5: not handling the election result well. As Alec Baldwin. He
Speaker 5: had this to say about his countrymen.
Speaker 20: Americans are very uninformed about reality.
Speaker 10: What's really going on with climate change Ukraine is the
Speaker 10: way you named all the biggest.
Speaker 5: Topics in the world, but Alec is positively euphoric when
Speaker 5: compared to actress and former view host Rosie o'donald, who
Speaker 5: has completely lost the plot. She comes in at number
Speaker 5: two on the week's biggest Lefty mountdowns.
Speaker 21: But it's hard to avoid it when it's so blatantly
Speaker 21: obvious when you look at the parallels that we have
Speaker 21: been here before as a world. When democracy falls, you know,
Speaker 21: fascism takes its place, right capitalism and it's come.
Speaker 5: Yes, democracy has been defeated by democracy. Trump's landslide victory
Speaker 5: somehow signals the end of democracy and the rise of fascism.
Speaker 5: These people are so hopelessly broken. But there was one
Speaker 5: clear standout this week, the number one lefty losing.
Speaker 6: It was the woman who squandered more than a billion
Speaker 6: dollars to lose the Electoral.
Speaker 5: College, the Senate, the House, the popular vote, and whose
Speaker 5: staff clearly hate her, because why would they have her
Speaker 5: filmed this and then release it.
Speaker 22: I just have to remind you, don't you ever let
Speaker 22: anybody take your power from you. You have the same
Speaker 22: power that you did before November fifth, and you have
Speaker 22: the same purpose that you did.
Speaker 5: Why why did they do that to her? Everything from
Speaker 5: the hideous backdrop there look like the curtains of a
Speaker 5: cheap motel on the highway, to the VP's own appearance,
Speaker 5: to the.
Speaker 6: Contents of the message.
Speaker 5: Hostage videos I've seen are more joyful than that. The
Speaker 5: whole thing was a ghastly unnecessary waste.
Speaker 6: Of time, much like a campaign.
Speaker 5: And you know what, Kamalai, if you do run again,
Speaker 5: and apparently you want to run again, make sure you
Speaker 5: sack every single person who told you that video.
Speaker 6: It was a good idea.
Speaker 1: Fantastic thanks and of course you can watch.
Speaker 2: He's losing at Rita's wonderful show every night she's got
Speaker 2: her segment plus Friday nights left.
Speaker 1: He's losing it, charging to the number one position there
Speaker 1: on Friday Night. Well done, Rita, excellent stuff.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in our former Reform UK candidate to Mayra
Speaker 2: and Central Nathan live from London where Mayron always great
Speaker 2: to see you. We've had Keir Starmer come out and
Speaker 2: accusing the Rishi Sunak or the Tory government of a
Speaker 2: deliberate plan to bring in an experiment to have open borders.
Speaker 1: Let's have a listen.
Speaker 23: This happened by design, not accident. Policies were reformed deliberately
Speaker 23: to liberalize immigration. Brexit was used for that purpose to
Speaker 23: turn Britain into a one nation experiment in open borders
Speaker 23: global Britain. Remember that slogan, that is what they meant,
Speaker 23: a policy with no support of which they then pretended
Speaker 23: wasn't happening.
Speaker 2: So Myron he goes on to blame brexits for the
Speaker 2: mass immigration that's going What is going on in the UK?
Speaker 1: Is this like the real deal? What's happening?
Speaker 24: Well, these figures one million nets, I'd like to remind
Speaker 24: you it's net figures that we're talking about coming into
Speaker 24: the UK on June twenty twenty three. And we're not
Speaker 24: talking about the small votes here. Just to clarify, we're
Speaker 24: not talking about illegal immigration. We're talking about legal immigration
Speaker 24: near enough a million people coming in.
Speaker 25: On June twenty twenty three.
Speaker 24: And this isn't about negligence or just incompetence. This is
Speaker 24: about pure deceit by the Conservative Party, of all parties,
Speaker 24: we're talking about David Cameron's a made Boris Johnson, Rishie
Speaker 24: Sunak basically open the borders. They've looked the British public
Speaker 24: in the art who repeatedly voted for immigration to being
Speaker 24: attendent about and then immediately turned around and open the borders.
Speaker 24: Nigel Faraja has described this as a political betrayal that
Speaker 24: the lights which we've never seen in British history, one
Speaker 24: of the biggest we've ever seen. And the thing that
Speaker 24: we have to realize is that immigration is obviously, especially
Speaker 24: when it's cheap, low skilled immigration, it's going to be
Speaker 24: a net drain in the economy. It's going to be
Speaker 24: a massive stress on the infrastructure. But immigration is not
Speaker 24: like other issues like the economy and a health service.
Speaker 24: If the economy goes down or the health service goes down,
Speaker 24: there are leavers you can pull to get it back
Speaker 24: on track. The immigration at this scale causes irreversible damage
Speaker 24: to the culture and identity of a country, and it
Speaker 24: takes thousands of years to build a culture, and we're
Speaker 24: being decimated in about two or three decades. So this
Speaker 24: isn't just bad policy. This is actually the death of
Speaker 24: a nation in slow motion. That's what we're seeing here.
Speaker 24: So this is for me, a democratic emergency to get
Speaker 24: everyone on board to stop voting for the Conservative Party,
Speaker 24: to stop voting for socialist labor Kis Starmer is an
Speaker 24: absolute hypocrite. We need to get behind Nigel Faraje and
Speaker 24: a reform party to actually save this country.
Speaker 10: James well maron how bad must the internal polling be
Speaker 10: for labor and for Keir Starmer on this that they
Speaker 10: have suddenly decided to have this road to Damascus or
Speaker 10: possibly a roade from Damascus moment about migration, because I'm
Speaker 10: old enough to remember, this is a huge deflection.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 10: In two thousand and nine, remember that Andrew Neither, who
Speaker 10: was adviser to Tony Blair, came out and said that
Speaker 10: the Tony Blair migration policies were all about quote rubbing
Speaker 10: the rights nose in diversity. So this is the labor
Speaker 10: policy here, and there seems to me like an incredible
Speaker 10: deflection to me that suddenly they're blaming the right for this.
Speaker 24: Yeah, look, you cannot trust Kirs Starmer's words. He is
Speaker 24: what I've noticed Kairs Starmer is every politician may be
Speaker 24: slightly elastic with the truth, can say kiss Starmer is
Speaker 24: very very comfortable lying to the British public, and he
Speaker 24: is simply saying what he knows. He's been advised to
Speaker 24: say what he thinks the British public want to hear
Speaker 24: in the moment. Look, he is ideologically wedded to open borders.
Speaker 24: He is ideology wedded to refugees welcome.
Speaker 25: He will not deflect. He will not control immigration.
Speaker 24: He's promised to smash the gangs and stop illegal migration
Speaker 24: from France.
Speaker 25: They've only increased.
Speaker 24: So there's no way his party, or even even in
Speaker 24: his own self, will allow him to control immigration. He
Speaker 24: believes in the global citizen, not the British citizen.
Speaker 5: But yet she has also talked about tackling illegal immigration recently,
Speaker 5: which is astonishing. Open border Starmer suddenly is sounding like
Speaker 5: Donald Crump.
Speaker 6: And the polling.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about Myron. There's polling that's
Speaker 5: come out just in the past week showing that Nigel
Speaker 5: Farage now has a high favorability rating then Kiirstarma and
Speaker 5: a lower un favorability rating. Is it a possible I
Speaker 5: know where you stand on this, but let's be realistic.
Speaker 5: Is it possible to break that labor Tory duopoly and
Speaker 5: have a third party win an election?
Speaker 25: Well, Nigel Faraj has put it like this.
Speaker 24: I think every kind of let's say five hundred years
Speaker 24: or something like that, there's a moment where the where
Speaker 24: the public wake up and they start to realize that
Speaker 24: there is a new political climate that we need. Now
Speaker 24: we've had the conservative part of fourteen years. I've just quoted,
Speaker 24: we just looked at the migration figures there.
Speaker 25: We now have a labor.
Speaker 24: Socialist government, which in four months I think is the
Speaker 24: most unpopular, most unprecedented negative pole and you could possibly
Speaker 24: imagine reform UK of Nigel Farage needs to look at
Speaker 24: things on a six month by six month basis.
Speaker 25: We've got county.
Speaker 24: Council elections coming in in six months time, in sort
Speaker 24: of made time. If we do well, then that will
Speaker 24: build a further base. And what we're doing now is
Speaker 24: grassroots structures across the country. We've got one hundred thousand
Speaker 24: members that have joined in just sort of four or
Speaker 24: five months. We've got four hundred branches across the country.
Speaker 24: We have the momentum, we had the trajectory, and I
Speaker 24: see if you judge us on a six month by
Speaker 24: six month basis, I think it is possible.
Speaker 25: It is possible, but we need the.
Speaker 24: Public behind us and we need to really understand the
Speaker 24: gravity of the situation. I honestly believe as I said before,
Speaker 24: we're in a democratic emergency. We need a handbrake turn
Speaker 24: and we only have four years to save this country.
Speaker 24: If the British public wake up to that, I think
Speaker 24: definitely Nigel Farage has a very strong chance of getting
Speaker 24: to number ten.
Speaker 2: Well, Mayran, I think it was Shakespeare. Wasn't it a
Speaker 2: Time and tides? The tide and times of men turning?
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was? But I think you're right about that.
Speaker 4: There's this time and talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: There was a call, there's been a call for a
Speaker 2: general election, so there's been a a kind of online
Speaker 2: petition which has gathered nearly three probably over three million
Speaker 2: by now signatures. Now that is unprecedented by itself. So
Speaker 2: the man and.
Speaker 1: Woman on the street in Britain are they fed up?
Speaker 1: Do you think? You know?
Speaker 2: As Reda says, can we see a Nigel FARAGPM, I'd
Speaker 2: love to.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be great. I've been wanting that for.
Speaker 4: A long term.
Speaker 24: Well, they're absolutely fed up, and I think it's worth
Speaker 24: sort of informing your viewers that on paper, Kirstan and
Speaker 24: Labor Party have a very strong constitutional mandate because they
Speaker 24: had all the right votes in the right places so
Speaker 24: they've got the right seats, enough seats to get into parliament. However,
Speaker 24: nationally eighty percent of the public didn't vote for them,
Speaker 24: so they had a very weak national mandate, a strong
Speaker 24: constitutional mandate, but a week national mandate, and so they've
Speaker 24: called it a loveless Landslide has said that they have
Speaker 24: a mandate as wide as the ocean, shallow as a
Speaker 24: village pond, and I.
Speaker 25: Think that's a situation. So this is a very very
Speaker 25: fragile government.
Speaker 24: And if you imagine, it's quite difficult to get the
Speaker 24: average person politically motivated to actually get up and do
Speaker 24: something about changing the country. But when this petition went round,
Speaker 24: it's amazing at how fast it gathered pace. So many
Speaker 24: people just pause their Netflix, put down their cup of
Speaker 24: tea and actually thought, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 24: sign this petition because the anger and venom is so strong.
Speaker 24: Because like Andrew Neil mentioned really in a recent article,
Speaker 24: people have woken up that we now have amateur politicians,
Speaker 24: student politicians that use vain ideology ahead of pragmatic policy.
Speaker 24: And that's the way I would describe everything's about identity politics,
Speaker 24: NET zero clamping down on freedom of speech, hate speech
Speaker 24: and so on, and we've seen it in a recent
Speaker 24: socialist budget. So much boring, so much taxation. Yet they're
Speaker 24: saying white wives and their growth. We don't know what
Speaker 24: they're doing. Amateur politicians who are playing fast and loose
Speaker 24: with the lives of British citizens.
Speaker 2: Myron, you think you got it bad, you should come
Speaker 2: to Australia. We specialize in undergraduate student left wing politicians.
Speaker 1: Without a clue as to what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Just quickly before we go, the farmers strikes this inheritance
Speaker 2: taxt want to get your thoughts on that, and also
Speaker 2: the BBC running around Palestinian colors, left, right and center.
Speaker 1: Give us a quick thirty seconds on each of those.
Speaker 25: Thanks, Well, I think that the farmers.
Speaker 24: It's it's strange how Labor Party has wasted so much
Speaker 24: political capital trying to fight the farmers who are so
Speaker 24: popular for the sake of half a billion pounds.
Speaker 25: Why are they doing this?
Speaker 24: Well, I believe they're doing this primarily because they don't
Speaker 24: believe that you should pass your property onto your future generations.
Speaker 24: They believe your property is the property of the state,
Speaker 24: and they also believe that they want to that your
Speaker 24: property should be used.
Speaker 25: For net zero solar farms and web farms.
Speaker 24: And so this is really a loud rab situation destroying
Speaker 24: a pillar of our British community, which is our family farmers.
Speaker 24: With regards to the BBC and Palestine, well her massa
Speaker 24: get engaged in asymmetric warfare which is all about trying
Speaker 24: to provoke Israel, not to win the war, but to
Speaker 24: win the proper gander war, and the BBC are the
Speaker 24: useful idiots in that propaganda war, you know, highlighting anti
Speaker 24: Israel rhetoric, grow her mask, glorifying her mass And now
Speaker 24: some of their employees are actually wearing you know, Palestinian
Speaker 24: palaestinine color to be encouraged to wear this stuff, and
Speaker 24: so all of this is going on, and yeah, I
Speaker 24: think the Jewish community are starting to realize that whether
Speaker 24: it's their health service who are also wearing Palaestinian colors,
Speaker 24: or it's their impartial broadcasting service, there is a normalization
Speaker 24: of anti Semitism that's starting to prevail.
Speaker 25: And I think that's the real problem.
Speaker 2: Mayra and Central Nathan. Always great to chat to you,
Speaker 2: such great insights, and we'll chat to you again soon.
Speaker 2: And if we don't chat to you, before then, have
Speaker 2: a very merry Christmas. That's there, Mara, and they're in
Speaker 2: London coming up. What's more happen here on Outsiders?
Speaker 1: Don't go away? Matt Canavan in a tick.
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Speaker 2: We certainly do appreciate your loyalty very very much.
Speaker 1: Now what a week.
Speaker 2: We've talked before about what happened in Parliament with the
Speaker 2: under sixteen social media ban.
Speaker 1: Well, if you were.
Speaker 2: Watching, you were probably watching it streaming on social media.
Speaker 2: And that was the great irony, an irony that was
Speaker 2: picked up by Matt Canavan, Senator Matt Canavan who made
Speaker 2: one of.
Speaker 1: The great political speeches I thought of his.
Speaker 2: Career, as I said on social media, prime ministerial material.
Speaker 2: And I was not the only person to say that.
Speaker 2: But what's Matt specific. We noticed was that longtime political
Speaker 2: activist Anthony Khalouf, who's known for his organizing of anti
Speaker 2: lockdown protests, he actually went to jail during the pandemic
Speaker 2: for organizing anti lockdown protests. He was live streaming. He's
Speaker 2: got Australians versus the agenda. Is his Twitter handle there,
Speaker 2: and he was highlighting the importance of freedom of online
Speaker 2: media platforms.
Speaker 1: Will Matt Canavan noticed this referred.
Speaker 2: To the fact that here we were debating social media
Speaker 2: banning social media when social media was live streaming far
Speaker 2: more people than ever normally watch Parliament, have a listen
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 14: Why is it that we've got this bill that seeks
Speaker 14: to we think, we say the mister says to help
Speaker 14: parents and the word parent is not mentioned at all
Speaker 14: in the bill. There's not a single mention of the
Speaker 14: world word parent in this bill. Why there is a
Speaker 14: silver lining here? Perhaps Right now a guy called mister
Speaker 14: Anthony Kaloof is running a live stream of our broadcast.
Speaker 14: He has thirty eight thousand people watching. The official YouTube
Speaker 14: channel of Parliament has eight hundred. He's got thirty eight
Speaker 14: thousand young people absolutely pissed off with this Parliament right
Speaker 14: now watching.
Speaker 1: So here's a special trip for you.
Speaker 2: We've got both Matt Canavan and Anthony Khalub together here.
Speaker 2: There's Matt up on the wall. Matt, we've got Anthony
Speaker 2: in the studio. We'll cut to him in the second.
Speaker 2: Area's Anthony. So Matt, let's go to you first, wearing
Speaker 2: your normally understated Sunday morning attire. I'm glad to see
Speaker 2: just in cases any doubt as to who we're talking to, Matt.
Speaker 1: You must be up in Queensland somewhere. It looks beautiful
Speaker 1: as it always does.
Speaker 2: Now tell us you spotted the amazing irony that here
Speaker 2: was more people watching Parliament banning social media thanks to
Speaker 2: social media.
Speaker 14: Matt, Well, look, I think what's happened this week has
Speaker 14: activated a whole generation of Australians. And as I noted,
Speaker 14: that's perhaps a silver lining from what was a bitter
Speaker 14: sweet last week of Parliament. I don't think we should
Speaker 14: forget that the week started with a smashing victory on misinformation,
Speaker 14: such a comprehensive defeat for that terrible anti Deycree democratic
Speaker 14: law that even the Labour Senators on Monday voted against
Speaker 14: their own law to dis charge the misinformation law. Because
Speaker 14: of all the great work of yourselves here on outsiders,
Speaker 14: all of your viewers, people like Anthony on social media,
Speaker 14: all made that difference now the end of the week
Speaker 14: wasn't so joyful. Of course, with the passing of this
Speaker 14: draconian band, this blanket ban. It was done within the
Speaker 14: cloak of darkness on late on a Thursday night. We
Speaker 14: did get some amendments to rule out the compulsory use
Speaker 14: of digital ID, so that was one win thanks to
Speaker 14: the Posse all fighting against that. But still, look, it
Speaker 14: wasn't the way to make laws in our parliament. And
Speaker 14: as I say now, I think a whole lot of
Speaker 14: people have woken up. I've come home to my five kids,
Speaker 14: never before more engaged in politics.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go go to Anthony Kalf.
Speaker 7: About what's happened.
Speaker 4: Anthony, that was largely you were doing.
Speaker 2: You've been very hot on this issue on social media.
Speaker 2: You've run a social media campaign Australian's VERSUSY agenda. I
Speaker 2: certainly follow it. I urge outsiders to follow you on
Speaker 2: X What was it like that moment Matt Canavan Suddenly
Speaker 2: there you are, he's talking about you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 26: Well, we were streaming for up to fifteen hours that
Speaker 26: night and got to a really climactic moment where once
Speaker 26: I heard my name shouted out, I was in absolute disbelief.
Speaker 13: As you can see there.
Speaker 26: And the biggest takeaway from outside of the fact that
Speaker 26: that was actually named and called out in the Senate Chamber,
Speaker 26: I really I feel like the bill itself is an
Speaker 26: attempt to undermine the digital literacy of people to be
Speaker 26: able to do what I did on that Thursday evening,
Speaker 26: which is to cultivate the attention of lawmakers like Matt
Speaker 26: Canavan and I I want to show people that someone
Speaker 26: just like me that has a basic understanding of digital
Speaker 26: literacy is able to accomplish that. But I think that
Speaker 26: this bill is as an attempt to undermine the ability
Speaker 26: to do that.
Speaker 6: And we saw in.
Speaker 5: The US election just how powerful those platforms were. People
Speaker 5: were far more likely to hear a candidate with a
Speaker 5: podcaster than they were to watch ACNN town halls. This
Speaker 5: is how people now consume us, this is how people communicate.
Speaker 5: And to be removing a whole segment of the community
Speaker 5: from that, what can you see as the impact of that?
Speaker 5: And do you think kids are going to find their
Speaker 5: way around it? But older Australians who perhaps aren't as
Speaker 5: tech savvy are the ones who are going to be impacted.
Speaker 26: Well, I think the government has severely underestimated the ability
Speaker 26: for people like myself and the generation that's now coming
Speaker 26: through to be able to do such things like cultivating
Speaker 26: an audience. And I think one thing that I do
Speaker 26: want to say is that Matt Canavan recognizing what I
Speaker 26: had done over the week on Thursday is a testament
Speaker 26: to the difference between politicians that respect and understand this
Speaker 26: new generation of people that are now being outspoken on
Speaker 26: social media, and then on the other side, the government
Speaker 26: currently undermining these people, and that gap between the two
Speaker 26: is becoming a real big chasm. And I think that
Speaker 26: we're going to see the results of the election coming
Speaker 26: up reflect that James and Matt.
Speaker 10: You know, some of the stuff that I was really
Speaker 10: impressed was not so much in the Senate chamber, but
Speaker 10: in the hearings about the bill and some of the
Speaker 10: questionings that went on around the bill. We have found
Speaker 10: out that they don't really even know what services are
Speaker 10: going to be covered and what's not.
Speaker 4: Whether or not YouTube's in or out.
Speaker 10: We do know that pornography will not be regulated, so
Speaker 10: even though there's an eight year limit on whether or
Speaker 10: not you can look into pornography, say that's not going
Speaker 10: to be enforced and we know that there was virtually
Speaker 10: no actual debate in the Senate. This seems like a
Speaker 10: rushed and completely anti democratic move here.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you're right, James.
Speaker 14: I think the lack of answers in that Senate inquiry
Speaker 14: was reflective of the rush nature of this bill. We
Speaker 14: first saw the bill, anybody in the public and myself
Speaker 14: anyone else, first saw the bill Thursday, the week prior,
Speaker 14: and by Thursday night in the Senate a week later,
Speaker 14: this whole New World leading apparently piece of legislation had
Speaker 14: passed through.
Speaker 7: It's completely inadequate.
Speaker 14: It's an insult to the Australian people that fifteen thousand
Speaker 14: Australians made a submission within twenty four hours to a
Speaker 14: Senate inquiry's bill, yet we still rushed it through within
Speaker 14: a week.
Speaker 7: How could we all give due credence to.
Speaker 14: Those fifteen thousand people with such a rushed, truncated process.
Speaker 14: It was a really sad day, a sad week for
Speaker 14: democracy in this country to do that. It was clearly
Speaker 14: just for so that a bunch of politicians could big
Speaker 14: note themselves about having done something before Christmas, when we
Speaker 14: know in this bill it doesn't actually come.
Speaker 7: Into effect until after the next Christmas. There was no rush.
Speaker 14: We could have easily extended the inquiry after receiving fifteen
Speaker 14: thousand submissions and clearly seen the cinciment out there and delayed.
Speaker 6: Matt, do you think part.
Speaker 5: Of that was almost Albot wanting to get a big
Speaker 5: win on the board.
Speaker 6: The voice was going to be his.
Speaker 5: Moment constitutional change that didn't happen. Now he's got world
Speaker 5: first legislation. You know, you can boast about this. CNN's
Speaker 5: reporting on it, BBC's reporting on it.
Speaker 1: We'll get a job at the un you want.
Speaker 5: Do you think it was about We're going to chalk
Speaker 5: up a win, And the question has to be asked,
Speaker 5: why would Peter Dutton help him do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Well, look at one hundred percent that what it
Speaker 7: was about. And look, it is sad.
Speaker 14: I've just supported my own side definitely conspired here to
Speaker 14: generate that outcome. I recognize that there are a lot
Speaker 14: of my colleagues who have a real personal sense about
Speaker 14: this response to this because they've had their own children
Speaker 14: or children close to them affected by the abuse of
Speaker 14: social media. And there's no doubt there are abuses on
Speaker 14: social media. And I've said throughout this process that some
Speaker 14: sensible restrictions on young people's use of social media makes
Speaker 14: sense to me, But I didn't believe in the rush process.
Speaker 7: I do agree with what Anthony's sort.
Speaker 14: Of saying there about the fact that young people are
Speaker 14: being engaged online and this is like the modern equivalent
Speaker 14: of banning young people from reading newspapers. I'm in online
Speaker 14: online discussions now is the modern news. And I'm going
Speaker 14: to cut I'm going to banning young people from engaging
Speaker 14: and that just in a blanket way seems totally wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going to cut in there, Matt, just
Speaker 2: very quickly because we're running out of time. But one
Speaker 2: of the things they would read newspapers if they were
Speaker 2: to read them, were to find out in New South
Speaker 2: Wales we're not allowed to use our dishwashers or washing
Speaker 2: machines because Chris Bowen's renewables an's allowed. Giving us enough
Speaker 2: the lecturesity, your thoughts please on the disaster that is
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen.
Speaker 14: Look, mate, you can see before our own eyes. And
Speaker 14: as Jeff Bezos said a few weeks ago, reality is
Speaker 14: an undefeated champion. Reality is catching up with Chris Bowen's
Speaker 14: fantastic or fairy tale plans, Brandy System. We do need
Speaker 14: we do need people like Anthony out there to spread
Speaker 14: the world on these issues too.
Speaker 7: I don't know what his views are on this, but.
Speaker 14: You need that online discussion to spread the word so
Speaker 14: we avoid catastrophe before it happens. There was still a
Speaker 14: chance here for Australians to turn around on this train
Speaker 14: wreck incoming train wreck before everything breaks. But if we
Speaker 14: keep going down the Chris Bowen route, well we'll eventually
Speaker 14: realize he's wrong.
Speaker 7: It'll just be very, very painful.
Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, great to chat to you as always. If
Speaker 2: we don't chat to you again, have a great Chrissy,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure we chat to you soon in the
Speaker 2: new year.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: That's Senator Matt Canavan who made one of the great
Speaker 2: speeches I thought in Parliament this week.
Speaker 1: Anthony Kaluth.
Speaker 2: You can catch him on Australians versus the Agenda.
Speaker 1: Anthony, thanks so much for coming in. I'd love to
Speaker 1: get your views on climate change. We'll do that next time.
Speaker 1: For having me, excellent, No worries.
Speaker 2: We'll be back in a tech Lots more to talk
Speaker 2: about here on Outsiders Don't Go Away. Hello, you're watching
Speaker 2: Outsiders with Rita am I over sixteen, Panahee James, where's
Speaker 2: that facial recognition button?
Speaker 1: Morrow and Rowan VPN Dean.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to dwell on the coalition voting and
Speaker 2: indeed advocating for the under sixteen social media ban, other
Speaker 2: than to limit myself to a few choice words selected
Speaker 2: at random from Roger's thesaurus. Idiotic, brain dead, moronic, half witted, cretinous,
Speaker 2: shooting yourself in the foot, snatching defeat from the jaws
Speaker 2: of victory, deep state, cia, azo, surveillance state, black, mirror, dystopia, totalitarianism,
Speaker 2: Chinese social credit system, betrayal, and unworkable. You can put
Speaker 2: those phrases and words in any order you so choose,
Speaker 2: Suffice to say, I had a chat with one of
Speaker 2: former Prime Minister John Howard's close advisors, Michael Bohme, on Friday,
Speaker 2: and I asked Michael what his advice.
Speaker 1: Would have been to Howard were John Howard currently.
Speaker 2: Leader of the Opposition in these circumstances, and Michael's advice
Speaker 2: was this, He says, I would have advised mister Howard
Speaker 2: that blanket age ban on anything sounds overly authoritarian, so
Speaker 2: I would have immediately urged caution.
Speaker 1: Then, said Michael Bohone.
Speaker 2: I would have asked John Howard to weigh up the
Speaker 2: risks that under sixteen's face from social media against the
Speaker 2: benefits that social media organized properly obviously can give to
Speaker 2: under sixteens. And I would have said, said Michael Bohone,
Speaker 2: that the potential good in terms of social interaction, education,
Speaker 2: information engagement and so on far far outweighs the potential harm.
Speaker 1: So a ban is wrong.
Speaker 2: And Michael Bohm went on to say I would have
Speaker 2: urged John Howard to look at ways that as a
Speaker 2: government we might help in providing the tool to limit harm.
Speaker 2: But definitely, definitely no ban. Mister Dutton clearly and sadly
Speaker 2: lacks such sage advice. I believe that this labor government
Speaker 2: is so obnoxious and so dangerous to this country on
Speaker 2: every front, that we face a national emergency in our
Speaker 2: need to rid ourselves of Labor Greens and the Teals.
Speaker 2: For that reason, I will carry on supporting the coalition
Speaker 2: and I sincerely hope they win. But my instinct tells
Speaker 2: me they have torpedoed themselves below the waterline, and that
Speaker 2: this entirely unnecessarily and foolhardy experiment in unenforceable authoritarianism will
Speaker 2: not only prove about as successful and electorally popular as
Speaker 2: one of Malcolm Turnbull's tunneling machines or Kevin Rudd's pink bats,
Speaker 2: but tragically may well cost the Coalition the election that
Speaker 2: was therefore the taking. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
Speaker 2: As for mister Dutton, he desperately, desperately needs a whole
Speaker 2: new team of advisors.
Speaker 13: I do listen to people.
Speaker 11: I hire experts, I hire to tough people, and I
Speaker 11: do listen.
Speaker 25: And you know what, sometimes they're wrong.
Speaker 4: You have to know what to do when to do it.
Speaker 13: But sometimes they're wrong.
Speaker 1: Precisely.
Speaker 2: Somebody else who made more than a fool of himself
Speaker 2: this week is the head of the ABC, Kim Williams.
Speaker 1: I've long been.
Speaker 2: A critic of the ABC, even though that's where my
Speaker 2: own television career began, back on Andrew Denton's brilliant Grew
Speaker 2: and Transfer.
Speaker 1: But I'm nonetheless critical of the ABC for two simple reasons.
Speaker 2: Firstly, there are of course always arguments for the taxpayer
Speaker 2: subsidizing certain enterprises, either to get essential industries off the
Speaker 2: ground or to sustain projects that provide a critical service.
Speaker 1: That the market does not otherwise support.
Speaker 2: But the ABC only falls a tiny bit into that
Speaker 2: latter category in terms of certain rural services. In terms
Speaker 2: of the vast majority of the ABC's news delivery, its opinion,
Speaker 2: its political analysis, its so called comedy, its cultural or
Speaker 2: sporting coverage, and so on, the ABC is, in today's
Speaker 2: era of mass choice through digital media, utterly redundant.
Speaker 1: If people want to listen to.
Speaker 2: The tiresome views of Paul Barry or Patricia Carvellis or
Speaker 2: Laura tingle Well, they should pay out of their own
Speaker 2: wallet via a subscription, not leech off the hard pressed
Speaker 2: Ozzie taxpayer whose tax dollars should be going.
Speaker 1: To much worthier causes.
Speaker 2: The ABC has become a grotesque parity parody of state
Speaker 2: controlled political broadcasting, mocked and laughed at by many people
Speaker 2: around the world, slavishly selling hardcore left wing and woke,
Speaker 2: green and indigenous and anti Israeli viewpoint across all its platforms,
Speaker 2: even to school kids via the insidious BTN shows, which
Speaker 2: pump a daily sludge of leftist propaganda directly into the
Speaker 2: impressionable minds of young school kids by the way, allow
Speaker 2: me to point out another consequence of the idiotic under
Speaker 2: sixteen ban on social media is that it means most
Speaker 2: kids ossie kids will now get all their political education
Speaker 2: from the ABC. Well done, Liberal Party, what geniuses at work.
Speaker 1: Great job you've done there. But back to Kim Williams.
Speaker 2: This week, an enterprising journalist from the ABC actually asked
Speaker 2: Kim Williams at the National Press Conference Club what he
Speaker 2: Kim thought of Joe Rogan, the American podcaster whose podcasts
Speaker 2: reach an audience of hundreds of millions of people. Now,
Speaker 2: just for those who are not familiar with him, Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan is a sports commentator and one time stand up
Speaker 2: comedian actor who set up a podcast and the infancy
Speaker 2: of the industry back in two thousand and nine, covering
Speaker 2: literally everything under the sun. His interests are wide and varied,
Speaker 2: and you can easily call him a modern modern everyday
Speaker 2: man or every man, and his show is actually one
Speaker 2: of the most popular, if not the most popular podcast
Speaker 2: in the world now. Politically, Joe Rogan was at one
Speaker 2: time an avid fan of all people, the failed Democrat
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. He's been called. Rogan has been called a libertarian,
Speaker 2: a liberal. He's supported same sex marriage, women's rights, gun control,
Speaker 2: and so on, but also very skeptical of vaccines and lockdowns.
Speaker 2: During COVID, his lengthy podcast cover all sorts of topics,
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists, theories, and at one point during COVID the
Speaker 2: hard left rock stars Neil Young and Joni Mitchell.
Speaker 1: He might remember we mentioned this on Outside as.
Speaker 2: They withdrew their entire catalogs from Spotify, saying they wouldn't
Speaker 2: return until Spotify got rid of Joe Rogan from Spotify. Well,
Speaker 2: Spotify sensibly ignored Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, and surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: only recently they both came crawling back onto Spotify. But
Speaker 2: it was Trump's three hour Donald Trump's three hour long
Speaker 2: interview with Joe Rogan, which notched up some forty million views.
Speaker 2: Apparently that is regarded by many as a pivotal moment
Speaker 2: in the recent US election campaign.
Speaker 3: You know what it is. I want to be a
Speaker 3: whale psychiatrist.
Speaker 27: It drives the whales freakin crazy.
Speaker 10: I always got more publicity than other people.
Speaker 13: I don't know exactly why.
Speaker 6: Maybe you can tell me why.
Speaker 28: I could definitely tell you, he said a lot of
Speaker 28: will maybe.
Speaker 1: Trump was normally, he was funny, he was engaging.
Speaker 2: The interview helped convert a whole new generation of young
Speaker 2: people on social media and of previous left wing Democrats
Speaker 2: supporting into discovering the real Donald Trump the man and
Speaker 2: discovering that they really liked him. To compound this, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: ooh she did she You did not do an interview
Speaker 2: with Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 2: And then in the last few days of the campaign,
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan, a lifelong supposed lefty himself, came out and
Speaker 2: endorsed Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I mention all of this for two reasons.
Speaker 2: Firstly, that is the power of social media that conservatives
Speaker 2: around the world should and could and will be harnessing
Speaker 2: except here in Australia. To defy the left wing bias
Speaker 2: of the mainstream media. Trump used social media to convert
Speaker 2: an entire generation of young people to a conservative cause.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton and the Coalition have instead banned young people
Speaker 2: from going on to social media, where we now know
Speaker 2: they are more likely to come across and be influenced
Speaker 2: by conservative and non woke ideas.
Speaker 1: Again, great work, Liberal Party.
Speaker 20: Whatever genius thought banning young people, banning them from getting
Speaker 20: access to alternative conservative political life is what genius thought that.
Speaker 1: Was the way forward.
Speaker 4: And then this week back.
Speaker 2: To Kim Williams, head of the ABC, he was asked
Speaker 2: what he, as head of the ABC, could learn from
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan's phenomenal success. His answer confirmed every criticism ever
Speaker 2: made about the ABC.
Speaker 29: So I'm just wondering if you had any observations about
Speaker 29: what's behind the Joe Rogan effect, how you believe he's
Speaker 29: managed to so successfully capture this huge market and then
Speaker 29: for us here in Australia, you know, how would or
Speaker 29: should the ABC be going about capturing that kind of audience.
Speaker 27: Look, I'm not sure that I'm the right person to
Speaker 27: respond to that question.
Speaker 13: I am not a.
Speaker 27: Consumer or enthusiast about mister Rogan and his work.
Speaker 2: Well, Kim Williams is correct on that first point. You're
Speaker 2: certainly the wrong person who asked such a question, and
Speaker 2: he went on to prove the spades, but he also
Speaker 2: proved that he is also the wrong person to be
Speaker 2: leading the ABC and that the ABC should not be
Speaker 2: receiving one more red scent, or any red scent from
Speaker 2: the average Australian taxpayer. And it was a great question.
Speaker 2: By the way, how can we learn? But anyway, let's
Speaker 2: hear more from Kim Williams.
Speaker 27: I think people like mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities.
Speaker 27: They prey on fear, they pray on anxiety, they pray
Speaker 27: on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think I hear pots and kettles rattling.
Speaker 2: What an arrogant, ill informed, miserable hypocrite. If there is
Speaker 2: any platform in Australia that praise on fear, praise on
Speaker 2: people's vulnerabilities, and praise on their anxieties.
Speaker 1: It is the the ABC. How many hours.
Speaker 2: Every week does the ABC devote to gnawing.
Speaker 30: Away like a dog with a bone on the so
Speaker 30: called evils of the Australian Anglo Saxon settler, colonial community
Speaker 30: and history, endlessly using its so called comedy shows to
Speaker 30: shame and mock and denigrate non Indigenous Australians, shaming us
Speaker 30: about Australia Day, shaming us about our ansect and.
Speaker 2: Zach forbears, accusing our forefathers of genocide against Indigenous Australians.
Speaker 31: Like this, the Crown is not above politics to us
Speaker 31: because the symbol of that crown was represented the invasion,
Speaker 31: the theft of land, and in our case, the exterminating war,
Speaker 31: which next year will mark two hundred years.
Speaker 2: And when they're not denigrating mainstream Australia or our history,
Speaker 2: they are endlessly pandering to the pagan doomsday cults of
Speaker 2: climate change.
Speaker 32: Parts of the region could face more than thirty days
Speaker 32: of flooding a year by mid century, and are already
Speaker 32: facing sea level rises well above the global average. The
Speaker 32: only question is how much time does the Pacific have left.
Speaker 14: But now to one of the wonders of the natural world,
Speaker 14: which may not be so wonderful in future. Great Barrier
Speaker 14: reef on one way path to decay thanks to climate
Speaker 14: change with no end in sight.
Speaker 1: On and on and on. Talk about deliberately raising the.
Speaker 2: Anxiety levels of our youth disease may not be rising.
Speaker 1: That those anxiety levels sure are.
Speaker 2: And terrorizing the vulnerable and the gullible that the planet
Speaker 2: will end and they have no future worth living because
Speaker 2: of fighting cowsand coal mines, or endlessly preying on the
Speaker 2: anxieties of the LGBTQ community around so called hate speech
Speaker 2: and vilification, or brushing the Israeli is a genocide line,
Speaker 2: or allowing AB staff to glorify the joys of boycotting Israel,
Speaker 2: or relentlessly promoting solidarity with the pro Palestinian mob, or
Speaker 2: demonizing conservative politicians like your Nigel Prages or your Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's and others, and don't get me started on the
Speaker 2: ABC during COVID, absolutely disgraceful. The list of unacceptable and offensive,
Speaker 2: heavily left wing biased ABC broadcasting is a very very
Speaker 2: deep well indeed, and not for the fainthearted. But let's
Speaker 2: go back to Kim Williams and his wildly unhinged comments
Speaker 2: about Joe Rogan.
Speaker 27: I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that
Speaker 27: someone has such remarkable power in the United States is
Speaker 27: something that I look at him believe.
Speaker 1: Oh, do you deeply repulsive?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Actually, it's the ABC that I find deeply repulsive, mister
Speaker 2: Williams and the actions of some of its so called
Speaker 2: comedians and on air talents.
Speaker 1: Doing performing well. I'm going to go into that particular skift.
Speaker 2: I use the word talent in its broadest possible sense.
Speaker 2: And equally repellent to many is the unbelievable radical left
Speaker 2: wing power that the ABC wields over a billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year. We give you to run your sinister cabal
Speaker 2: of climate cultists and indigenous activists and you get free
Speaker 2: access to every living room in the land.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable power. Here's an idea.
Speaker 2: Rather than giving you more taxpayers money, how about we
Speaker 2: give you.
Speaker 1: A lot lot less, like maybe net zero. How does
Speaker 1: that sound?
Speaker 2: Because what that billion dollars a year power has helped
Speaker 2: saddle this country with of yours is one dud government
Speaker 2: after another Rudd, Gillard Turnbull. Remember how your organization formed
Speaker 2: all over Malcolm in his silly leather jacket, and now
Speaker 2: this current labor horror show with its idiotic climate alarm
Speaker 2: is a rampant indigenous activism, endless acknowledgments of country. Why
Speaker 2: while it's a strain shaming white Australia and what many
Speaker 2: in the Jewish community view as your blatant anti semitism, ABC,
Speaker 2: that is your organization, your platform, mister Williams, that is
Speaker 2: your ABC.
Speaker 27: I'm also absolutely in dismay that this can be a
Speaker 27: source of public entertainment when it's really treating the public
Speaker 27: as plunder.
Speaker 2: A really dismay you want to see a source of
Speaker 2: public entertainment that treats the public as plunder.
Speaker 1: Try this, mister Williams, I am angry.
Speaker 6: I don't like me mean angry.
Speaker 28: Then by all means Australia take my furious button and
Speaker 28: run this right for me.
Speaker 33: Now, the easy thing would be to assume that that
Speaker 33: was a catharsis so healthy, venting of the frustration that
Speaker 33: has built up over thirty years of the rubbish that
Speaker 33: you have to put up with being an Indigenous woman
Speaker 33: in this country.
Speaker 1: Would that be right?
Speaker 28: There was something about that day where I was completely
Speaker 28: out of my body?
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 1: Raising anxiety levels?
Speaker 2: Yeap, Yes, that would be the good old ABC promoting
Speaker 2: unity and respect. I could have played you the episode
Speaker 2: where the other character what did you do on the
Speaker 2: cushion whatever? I won't go into it with a white
Speaker 2: face on it or something like that, but mostfully that
Speaker 2: seems to have been scrubbed from the ABC quite right.
Speaker 2: Or I could play you the endless sneering on the
Speaker 2: ABC on occasions like the Coronation or Australia Day, the
Speaker 2: rampant pro Palestinian activism that infests your network. That stuff
Speaker 2: is deeply repulsive to the vast majority of Australians who
Speaker 2: pay those bloated ABC wages. As far as I'm concerned, Kim,
Speaker 2: you and your cohorts and the cozy ultimost studios are
Speaker 2: the ones who endlessly, endlessly prey on the naivety and
Speaker 2: plunder on the gullibility and vulnerability of Australians and in
Speaker 2: particular of Australian youth.
Speaker 1: Then, to prove just.
Speaker 2: How completely out of touch he is, Kim Williams went
Speaker 2: on to Radio three AW to demand more money for
Speaker 2: the ABC. He wouldn't specify how much or no, because
Speaker 2: he claims the ABC is quote trusted and treasured, despite
Speaker 2: as Tom Elliott, the host pointed out the relentlessly falling ratings,
Speaker 2: which would seem to disprove that point.
Speaker 22: Well, how much do you want?
Speaker 4: I mean you must have.
Speaker 13: You must have a figure in your head?
Speaker 22: Is it twice?
Speaker 27: I'm not going to negotiate with government and have a
Speaker 27: discussion about the requisite investment in the ABC. I'm through
Speaker 27: your your good program. I'm not going to do that,
Speaker 27: and you surely don't expect me to.
Speaker 2: Well, I surely do expect you to, mister Williams, because
Speaker 2: it is our money you see, it's our money.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you earn it, but it's ours. So yes,
Speaker 1: we do accept.
Speaker 2: We do expect you to consult with us, the people
Speaker 2: who pay your bills, the.
Speaker 1: Public, about how much more of our money you.
Speaker 2: Want to use and want because, to be frank and
Speaker 2: to paraphrase Kerry Packer, it's not as if you spend
Speaker 2: what we already give you.
Speaker 1: Very well.
Speaker 2: Then, mister Williams let the mask slip when he defended
Speaker 2: his attack on Rogan as simply being his personal or
Speaker 2: point of view.
Speaker 31: A no big deal.
Speaker 27: I might say, I've been surprised since making that response
Speaker 27: that there has been an astonishingly large pylon from people
Speaker 27: saying that I was an embarrassment to Australia. Why I'm
Speaker 27: making an independent comment about mister Rogan should be an
Speaker 27: embarrassment to the nation.
Speaker 1: Beats me, doesn't beat me.
Speaker 2: Kim Williams, you are the perfect embodiment of that bloated organization,
Speaker 2: the ABC elite entitled unable. It would appear to distinguish
Speaker 2: between the organization and your own personal opinions. You were
Speaker 2: speaking as the chair of the Australian National Broadcaster at
Speaker 2: the Australian National Press Club, and you chose to sneer
Speaker 2: and poor, scorn and arguably the fame an independent American
Speaker 2: media personality who has built up a huge global following
Speaker 2: simply by his own hard work and efforts. Yes, you
Speaker 2: are an embarrassment, mister Williams. And as for deeply repulsive
Speaker 2: dismaying and praying behavior.
Speaker 1: Well it might be time to take a closer look
Speaker 1: at your ABC.
Speaker 2: We're joined by Gerard Holland, CEO of Page Research Center.
Speaker 1: Great to have you here in the studio. Gerard's where
Speaker 1: you belong Here in the studio. Last time you were
Speaker 1: out in the bush somewhere. Now you're back here. Good
Speaker 1: to have you here.
Speaker 2: If you were out in the busher anywhere else in
Speaker 2: New South Wales, you wouldn't have been able to use
Speaker 2: a dishwasher. You wouldn't have been able to turn on
Speaker 2: your air conditioning. Yet again we learn that renewables, somehow
Speaker 2: or other aren't quite up to the job.
Speaker 13: Gerard, Well, and that's exactly right, Rowan.
Speaker 34: It wouldn't be a surprise to any one that on
Speaker 34: Wednesday this week we're all told not to use our
Speaker 34: pool pumps, dishwashers, our air conditioners, lest the entire grid
Speaker 34: collapse due to one unscheduled outage out at Rahring Power Station. Now,
Speaker 34: the reason for this is simple. We have massively invested
Speaker 34: in renewables. The vast majority, eighty percent of investment over
Speaker 34: the last ten years has gone towards intermittent and unreliable power,
Speaker 34: and we've underinvested in that baseload capacity in the grid.
Speaker 34: And since we've taken out three and a half gigawatts
Speaker 34: at Ladell, since we've taken out that capacity at Hazelwood,
Speaker 34: we haven't put new baseload power in. But our reliance
Speaker 34: on coal hasn't changed. So all of these existing stations
Speaker 34: which are aging are getting older, they're not they're getting
Speaker 34: absolutely smashed, being ramped at a much higher capacity because
Speaker 34: we're asking them to do the job that a more
Speaker 34: stable grid was doing historically when we had more coal
Speaker 34: and more baseload power in our grid, we had that.
Speaker 5: Over investment in renewables, but at the same time under
Speaker 5: investment in what actually works at this stage, which is
Speaker 5: fossil fuels, and our emissions are going up. Under the
Speaker 5: alb and Easy government, this has been a.
Speaker 6: Complaint of the greed.
Speaker 5: Well, we're paying more we've got unreliability and we're not
Speaker 5: even meeting their missions cuts.
Speaker 6: So exactly where is the win on the board here?
Speaker 34: Well, this is the frustration is that we've been promised
Speaker 34: that renewables would be cheaper and they would be cleaner,
Speaker 34: and evidently not cheaper. We're building lots and lots of
Speaker 34: diffuse machines that were only using part of the time
Speaker 34: that are pushing up those spot prices, particularly in later
Speaker 34: in the evening when solar and wind aren't producing electricity.
Speaker 34: But at the same time, they're not cleaner either. Once
Speaker 34: you factor in the entire lifespan of these installations how
Speaker 34: many times you have to replace them, you're only reducing
Speaker 34: emissions by about forty percent than are existing cole fleet.
Speaker 34: At the same time, you're destroying farmland, you're destroying our
Speaker 34: national parks. You're having these massive buildouts of industrial plants,
Speaker 34: but also the distribution and transmission lines as well, and
Speaker 34: so they're not better for the environment, they're certainly not cheapest.
Speaker 34: You start to wonder how we even gotten down this much.
Speaker 10: You tell us a bit more about this, clear because
Speaker 10: Chris Bowden goes out and he says no, no, no,
Speaker 10: He insists so that renewables are the cheapest of energy,
Speaker 10: and yet we had a spark price hit I think
Speaker 10: sixteen or seventeen thousand dollars per megawhite hour at one
Speaker 10: point this week. At the same time, the premiere here
Speaker 10: in New South Wales is saying, please don't come home
Speaker 10: and turn on the air conditionryte their house is high
Speaker 10: because you've been out of work all day.
Speaker 4: Don't do that, please.
Speaker 10: There sis to be a lot of fiddling around the numbers,
Speaker 10: you know, we're here, typically.
Speaker 4: Integrated service plan and things like that.
Speaker 10: Tell us about what's actually happening with these numbers, because
Speaker 10: it seems to be like Chris Bow and frankly, a
Speaker 10: lot of the energy regulators have been really disingenuous here.
Speaker 34: So I think there's two important things happening there, James.
Speaker 34: The first one is that a system is not a market.
Speaker 34: So proving that you can produce low cost energy at
Speaker 34: a very small fraction of the day does not then
Speaker 34: mean that over the course of a twenty four hour
Speaker 34: period that you can push prices lower. And that's the
Speaker 34: first problem is that because renewables only operate a couple
Speaker 34: of hours, it comes in those gushes and rushes. It
Speaker 34: means that you're much more reliant on peaking power and
Speaker 34: that traditional cheaper power baseload rather than trucking along all day.
Speaker 34: You're then having to turn it on in demand times
Speaker 34: when the renewables can't meet that demand. So that's what
Speaker 34: leads that fluctuating spot price that you mentioned. But the
Speaker 34: other important thing to mention is that the Integrated System
Speaker 34: plan is basically marking its own homework.
Speaker 13: It's assuming that.
Speaker 34: The government's policy position of eighty percent renewables by twenty
Speaker 34: thirty and all of the battery storage that that will.
Speaker 13: Happen with no delays.
Speaker 34: It assumes modeling on prices where most of those best sites,
Speaker 34: all those gold sites, are already taken, and so they're
Speaker 34: not factoring in it's going to get more and more
Speaker 34: expensive to build more more onshore, wind and solar, especially
Speaker 34: as you get further out in the grid, and so
Speaker 34: it's not a fair reflection of the full system cost
Speaker 34: of producing that electricity.
Speaker 2: They also want to see how government works. They should
Speaker 2: take and you should take them down to the snowy Mountain.
Speaker 2: They could go and stand in the tunnel with Florence
Speaker 2: the machine and see how effective they are, sorry, jam.
Speaker 10: As I say, but you know the other thing too
Speaker 10: that this seems to ignore is that every percentage point
Speaker 10: of solar and wind that you added.
Speaker 1: This makes grid less reliable, right.
Speaker 10: I mean, they're certainly want to get to eighty three
Speaker 10: percent I think by twenty thirty five.
Speaker 4: But at that point you've.
Speaker 10: Got to build all sort of stuff to keep that
Speaker 10: going right, and there's no gas, what'll do gas?
Speaker 4: And the leading the call run down absolutely.
Speaker 34: When you think about your anatomy of a power bill,
Speaker 34: you've got the wholesale generator generator. You've then got the
Speaker 34: system costs, You've got the green levees, which of course
Speaker 34: we're slapping on to subsidize a lot of these things.
Speaker 34: And then you've got the retailer slapping on the bit
Speaker 34: at the end to keep that wholesale portion of the
Speaker 34: bill down. You want your cheapest electricity running for twenty
Speaker 34: four hours, so they've got a steady supply of electricity
Speaker 34: and they know how much they need to put into
Speaker 34: their system. And then at those different times and you
Speaker 34: expect more demand, you then want to bring in your
Speaker 34: peaking power, which is usually gas which comes in the
Speaker 34: line with a solar grid.
Speaker 13: Or a renewable grid. And as you've said, the.
Speaker 34: More you put in it means that during the middle
Speaker 34: of the day you have this huge rush of electricity
Speaker 34: with nowhere for it to go, so it either gets
Speaker 34: wasted or you have to build huge amounts of battery
Speaker 34: storage or hydro installations which are enormously expensive, just to
Speaker 34: capture that excess electricity, all the while your cheap, stable
Speaker 34: electricity you've got turned off. And so this is what's
Speaker 34: creating that fluctuating kind of system.
Speaker 1: It's insane the way you describe it.
Speaker 5: It's insane means that I don't know at what point,
Speaker 5: whether it's twenty years, whether it's two hundred years, they
Speaker 5: will look back at this period and look what read
Speaker 5: hopefully two years, and it would be like the periods
Speaker 5: we look at where they you know, they used to
Speaker 5: burn witches, and we'll go what went wrong? How could
Speaker 5: so many people be so idiotic? How could they cause
Speaker 5: that level of self harm.
Speaker 6: To a prosperous country.
Speaker 5: Fast forward ten years, If we stay on this trajectory,
Speaker 5: what are we going to be looking like?
Speaker 6: Price wise, reliability wise.
Speaker 34: So we've already seen over the last ten years in
Speaker 34: real terms, electricity prices go up to sixty percent, and
Speaker 34: on current trajectory, we're probably looking at other sixty to
Speaker 34: seventy percent increases. I think the important thing to realize
Speaker 34: is that you know viewers of your show, they would
Speaker 34: be much more energy and electricity literate than a lot
Speaker 34: of people are. We don't learn this in school, This
Speaker 34: isn't currently talked about in most of our mainstream media.
Speaker 13: And most people are really well meaning.
Speaker 34: They trust what the government, they trust what the ABC
Speaker 34: and other elites in society are telling them, and they
Speaker 34: want to think that they're doing something that's good for
Speaker 34: the environment, that's going to be cheaper. And this is
Speaker 34: where I think we've been failed is you've got this
Speaker 34: expertocracy who are marking their own homework, who aren't actually
Speaker 34: factoring in the full system costs, who are completely shut
Speaker 34: off to coal or nuclear because of what our politicians
Speaker 34: have dictated them when they're sitting out and making their figures.
Speaker 34: And so this means that the general public have never
Speaker 34: actually shown the full picture.
Speaker 2: And now under sixteen year olds don't have any access
Speaker 2: to any alternative information that might lead them to think, oh,
Speaker 2: hang on, this is something crooked going on.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: How embarrassing was it for Australia to have Ed Millerband
Speaker 2: making sense at COP twenty nine and talking about nuclear
Speaker 2: and Alcus and the Americans saying to the Australians, you've
Speaker 2: got to go nuclear. Why aren't you going nuclear? Obviously,
Speaker 2: if you're serious about zero missions, you go in nuclear,
Speaker 2: what will happen there?
Speaker 34: So it's embarrassing, but it's also quite concerning when you
Speaker 34: think about our security apparatus, and particularly as we're transitioning
Speaker 34: to war aucas Let's be honest, we haven't been making
Speaker 34: those investments in our own military. In a strategic matter.
Speaker 34: We're relying on the US and we're lying on the
Speaker 34: Brits to do a lot of that heavy lifting. If
Speaker 34: we don't get our skates on begin to set up
Speaker 34: that regulatory framework to process the nukes, when they come here,
Speaker 34: they're going to leave us behind and they're going to.
Speaker 13: Say, look, Australia, you are't pulling your weight.
Speaker 34: You're going to become a second player, and then we're
Speaker 34: going to be completely stranded. So it's not just for
Speaker 34: our energy needs that we need to work this nuclear
Speaker 34: stuff out. It's also for our national security and making
Speaker 34: sure that we can meet our commitments within orcus.
Speaker 2: Jared Holand always great to have you here on Outsiders.
Speaker 2: Have a great Chrissy, and we'll see you again in
Speaker 2: the new year. Thanks so much. That's of course, Jared Holland.
Speaker 2: There after the break, James's Donkey vote. Lots more here
Speaker 2: clown show here on Outsiders, don't go way back in
Speaker 2: a team.
Speaker 10: Hello, you're watching it, Outsiders. I'm James Morrow here as
Speaker 10: always with your host rohing Dean and reder Panahy. And
Speaker 10: in America, the holiday season in full swing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 10: In a moment, I'm going to round up all the
Speaker 10: ways defeated Democrats are playing grinch true in everyone's good
Speaker 10: time this Thanksgiving and Christmas season. But first, you know,
Speaker 10: everyone is by now well familiar with Donald Trump's signature
Speaker 10: dance move, the two fisted Trump dance that has become
Speaker 10: so popular that even players in the woke NFL are
Speaker 10: now doing it after touchdowns. Quite the change from back
Speaker 10: when they used to take the knee. Well, guess what,
Speaker 10: it's not a new thing, the Trump dance. This is
Speaker 10: not just a new thing this campaign. I have found
Speaker 10: video of Donald Trump doing his thing while watching a
Speaker 10: beauty pageant in what is believed to have been the
Speaker 10: mid two thousands, so we're talking like twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: Have a look, just.
Speaker 10: Ah, good times there. But you know who's not having
Speaker 10: a good time American lefties, Democrats, progressive socialists, communists, hamas huggers,
Speaker 10: the whole lot of them. I mean, think about what
Speaker 10: they've been through. Not only did Donald Trump win the
Speaker 10: election with a two big two win popular and electoral majority,
Speaker 10: but it's also yes, the holidays, which are always held
Speaker 10: for these types because they represent all sorts of things
Speaker 10: like religion and family togetherness that they just absolutely loathe.
Speaker 10: This means, along with a slew of news and vice
Speaker 10: columns running through the press about why, yes, it is
Speaker 10: a good idea to cut your family off if you
Speaker 10: don't agree with them, for the proving my point.
Speaker 1: That leftism is indeed a cult.
Speaker 10: They're also taking to the streets to do things like
Speaker 10: interrupt the cherished Macy's Thanksgiving They pray because I don't
Speaker 10: know Palestine. Tell you what liberal New Yorker's protesting for
Speaker 10: Palestine really is the ultimate turkeys for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4: But I digress.
Speaker 10: Meanwhile, newsite Axios has come out with its own hot
Speaker 10: take on Thanksgiving, saying that the holiday is really based
Speaker 10: on racial exclusion, while Squad member and Osheina Taylieb, a
Speaker 10: member of the Democrat Party in Good Standing, posted on
Speaker 10: Instagram connecting the war in Palestine with the fate of
Speaker 10: quote unquote indigenous people in America. She wrote, quote we
Speaker 10: more the indigenous people killed by European settlers and the
Speaker 10: United States in order.
Speaker 4: To steal their land. Yes, that's right. Just think about that.
Speaker 10: There a popular sitting Democrat congresswoman essentially tip a bucket
Speaker 10: of the proverbial on America's favorite holiday. And not only that,
Speaker 10: suggested the entire United States is illegitimate and stolen. We
Speaker 10: can find a replace in the Australian Senate now. Anyone
Speaker 10: wondering why they aren't on a winning streak these days?
Speaker 10: These Democrats, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, it's beyond me.
Speaker 10: Meanwhile, with Thanksgiving in the books, it's time for Americans
Speaker 10: to do a little Christmas shopping. And Joe Biden, yeah,
Speaker 10: you know, the guy who's still the president. He was
Speaker 10: out hitting the Black Friday sales. According to the New
Speaker 10: York Post, Biden was seen picking up a copy of
Speaker 10: Columbia University professor Khalid Rashidi's book The One Hundred Year
Speaker 10: War on Palestine, A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance.
Speaker 10: The book argues that quote the modern history of Palestine
Speaker 10: can best be understood in these terms as a colonial
Speaker 10: war waged against the indigenous population by a variety of
Speaker 10: parties to force them to relinquish their homeland to another
Speaker 10: people against their will. Oh well, yes, Joe Biden's He's
Speaker 10: probably too checked out to read.
Speaker 4: A book like that. Anyway.
Speaker 10: Maybe it was just a gift for Ashley, But ordinary
Speaker 10: Americans without the benefit of Secret Service protection when they
Speaker 10: go shopping have not had such an easy time filling
Speaker 10: their Christmas list, not just due to bidener inflation, of course,
Speaker 10: but yes, you guessed it. Prope Palestine demonstrators seen here
Speaker 10: taking over a Boston shopping while as locals made their
Speaker 10: way to again the Black Friday sales. Have a look,
Speaker 10: where are the Moull cops?
Speaker 4: And all that?
Speaker 10: I gotta wonder anyway, folks, this all just proves it.
Speaker 10: The Left is the reason why we can't have nice things.
Speaker 10: Can you imagine how insufferable things would be if these
Speaker 10: people had actually won that election? Well they didn't, which
Speaker 10: brings me to this. Donald Trump has just posted this
Speaker 10: fantastic video imagining National Lampoon's Christmas vacation if it was
Speaker 10: hosted by the Bidens instead of the Griswolds.
Speaker 17: If this turkey tastes half as good as it looks,
Speaker 17: I think we're all in for a very big treat.
Speaker 4: Okay, save the neck or make Clark.
Speaker 35: Okay, Adam terrific staff Thanks James, coming out clown show
Speaker 35: in a tick.
Speaker 1: Roll up, roll up, step right this way.
Speaker 2: It's the freakiest, scariest, craziest show in town. It's the
Speaker 2: Camera clown Show featuring everybody's favorite mean girls. First, we
Speaker 2: had the Labor mean Girls, Petulant Penny, Katty Katie and
Speaker 2: Kookie Christina, allegedly three of the nastiest, most spiteful, most vicious,
Speaker 2: snider and sneering women to ever grace our Parliament. Called
Speaker 2: the mean Girls by their own peers because of the
Speaker 2: way they are said to have treated some female members
Speaker 2: of their own Labor party, including, of course, how.
Speaker 1: They allegedly bullied.
Speaker 2: Chastised, ostracized and alienated one of their own colleagues.
Speaker 1: A fan of this.
Speaker 2: Show as it happens and a funny and fiercely intelligent woman,
Speaker 2: I and many Australians on all sides of politics, had
Speaker 2: genuine affection for that being the late Labor Senator Kimberly Kitching.
Speaker 2: Allegations denied, of course, by the three Labor senators seen
Speaker 2: here on a hidden camera auditioning for Walkorn roles in
Speaker 2: William Shakespeare's Macbeth.
Speaker 28: When shall we three meet again in thunder life thing?
Speaker 28: Or in way when the very Burly's done, when the
Speaker 28: Battle's lost and won.
Speaker 2: Many have claimed the bullying by the mean girls contributed
Speaker 2: to the stress linked to the heart attack that killed
Speaker 2: Kimberly Kitching. Yet here's how Anthony Albanizi responded to those
Speaker 2: allegations back at the time.
Speaker 1: Do I have confidence in Penny Wong as Senate lady?
Speaker 1: Yes I do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 28: And Katie Gallagher and Kristnick nearly are part of the solution.
Speaker 1: They're not part of the problem.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, trust me, Penny Wong, Katie Gallagher and Christina can
Speaker 2: Nearly are part of the solution. Well, this country is
Speaker 2: in serious hubble, bubble, toil and trouble. But now, folks,
Speaker 2: it's time for the sequel. Direct from the Burly Griffin,
Speaker 2: Big Top. It's bigger and better than ever, even bigger
Speaker 2: than that murder of shrieking crows.
Speaker 1: Roll Up, Roll Up for Mean Girls.
Speaker 2: Two, featuring three of the weirdest, wackiest, wokest witches to
Speaker 2: ever grace the crossbenchers. You'll be stunned, You'll be horrified,
Speaker 2: You'll be reaching for the paper bag.
Speaker 1: Yes, here they are, in all their glory, sorry, all
Speaker 1: their glory.
Speaker 2: First up, fabulous Fatima, the girl who can see racists
Speaker 2: even when they're not actually there.
Speaker 18: In another statement, she says, we're bringing in people from
Speaker 18: South Africa at the moment. There's a huge amount coming
Speaker 18: into Australia who have disease.
Speaker 6: They've got eight.
Speaker 18: If that is not racist, what is it the fact
Speaker 18: that you would say, just weeks ago to Senator for
Speaker 18: rookie stuff back to Pakistan. You're not just vindictive, mean nasty,
Speaker 18: you bring disgrace to the human race.
Speaker 1: Hmm charming.
Speaker 2: Then there's Motormouth Marine, everybody's favorite clown litigant who's determined
Speaker 2: to have her voice heard the width and breadth of
Speaker 2: the land, whether you want to hear it or not.
Speaker 36: That people of Hollah do not have to be grateful
Speaker 36: or to keep quiet, and I will be speaking out
Speaker 36: more loudly and more strongly than ever before.
Speaker 1: Heaven help us.
Speaker 2: And finally, Loopy Lydia, she of the raised fists and
Speaker 2: the cloak made of dead possums, who got thrown out
Speaker 2: of the clown Show this week for stealing the spotlight
Speaker 2: yet again.
Speaker 8: Has just been passed to suspend Lydia Thorpe from the
Speaker 8: Senate after she ripped up a motion by Pauline Hanson
Speaker 8: on the chamber floor, appeared to throw it at her,
Speaker 8: and flipped the bird as she walked out.
Speaker 2: And here is Lydia weirdly suggesting that her.
Speaker 1: Spot in Parliament belongs to the Thorpes.
Speaker 28: I'm guided by my ancestors, guided by my people.
Speaker 6: My Senate spot belongs to my people.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, Lydia's people are, of course, predominantly, but not exclusively,
Speaker 2: Anglo Saxon or Celtic. Seven of her eight great grandparents
Speaker 2: are what in the vernacular we Aussies referred to as poms. Indeed,
Speaker 2: a genuine racist would call Senator Thorpe by the nickname
Speaker 2: pommy Lydia, So.
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll catch on.
Speaker 2: This delightful trio of angry hardcore left wing women. Motormouth Marine,
Speaker 2: Fabulous Fatima and Pommy Lydia have been labeled the Aussie
Speaker 2: Squad by the Australian Jewish Association in honor of their
Speaker 2: astonishing resemblance to the Democrats, equally crazy and tiresome forsome
Speaker 2: the squad who graced the US Congress. But lovers of
Speaker 2: slapstick comedy did not walk away disappointed from this week's
Speaker 2: clown show, which was only just warming up. For reasons
Speaker 2: best known only to himself, the former serious politician Peter
Speaker 2: Dutton this week decided to run away from reason and
Speaker 2: rational thought to join the circus himself with this this
Speaker 2: bizarre self immolation act known as legislating a completely unworkable
Speaker 2: and ridiculous law that has made Australia yet again the
Speaker 2: laughing stock of the free world, the under sixteen ban
Speaker 2: on social media.
Speaker 37: I think it's a cracking out coven. We pushed the
Speaker 37: government to this position to come. He's had the technology
Speaker 37: now without collecting any of your data, they could identify
Speaker 37: your face as being under or over sixteen, and they
Speaker 37: should deploy that technology as they do across a number
Speaker 37: of their other platforms.
Speaker 2: This is mister Dutton's first appearance on the Canberra Clown Show.
Speaker 2: Let's hope he doesn't make a regular habit of it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: someone who has decided to hang up his clown suit
Speaker 2: is cheap liberal bedwetter. Simon Burningham, who used his farewell
Speaker 2: speech to warn conservatives against avoiding engaging in divisive culture wars. Well, here,
Speaker 2: of course, is Simon Birmingham practicing what he preaches byer
Speaker 2: avoiding divisive culture wars. And here is Simon Birmingham definitely
Speaker 2: not engaging in divisive culture wars by going on the
Speaker 2: ABC and urging young people to get.
Speaker 1: The phiz of vaccine.
Speaker 2: And here is Simon Burningham avoiding divisive culture wars last
Speaker 2: year by point blank refusing to back his leader Peter
Speaker 2: Dutton and campaign against the voice here on Clown Show.
Speaker 2: We obviously wish Simon Birmingham all the best in his
Speaker 2: future endeavors. But in honor of his sterling work helping
Speaker 2: prop up the Big Tent during the Liberal Clown Show
Speaker 2: in its heyday under Ringmaster Malcolm Turnbull, we are proud
Speaker 2: to award Simon Birmingham the coveted Christopher Pine Cherry Bar,
Speaker 2: Black Hand, Bedwetter's Award for treachery to the Conservative cause.
Speaker 2: Who can forget the fragrant Christopher Pine rousing cry and
Speaker 2: the winner's circle no less of the cherry bar back
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and we get.
Speaker 25: To deliver the foro to loam is marriage to quality.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Christopher Pine and Simon Birmingham, I dug up
Speaker 2: this photo of the two of them clearly displaying their
Speaker 2: unswerving loyalty and heartfelt affection towards the Conservative Prime minister
Speaker 2: who got them elected into power in a landslide victory.
Speaker 2: So is the Black Hand Carnival finally over? And how
Speaker 2: on earth will the Canra Clown show go on without
Speaker 2: Bedwetter Burmo Let's ask Judith Durham Hyperbowl, the Wacky Way,
Speaker 2: Crazy World, and how they exaggerate and use our language,
Speaker 2: steal our language from us Riata The New York Times
Speaker 2: up to their old tricks.
Speaker 5: They have come up with the term for women. Guess
Speaker 5: what it is? This is women have become a subcategory
Speaker 5: of their own gender. They're now called that use the
Speaker 5: term non transgender women, transgender.
Speaker 1: Small sub non transgender women.
Speaker 5: Being just women to being cis women and now where
Speaker 5: non transgender women.
Speaker 6: It is comical.
Speaker 5: But this is how deep the indoctrination in the mediaies
Speaker 5: with the trans lobby. They have completely uh infiltrated and
Speaker 5: hijacked the narrative there.
Speaker 1: But it's beyond comical.
Speaker 2: It's sinister, isn't it, James, because it is all welly
Speaker 2: and it's the distortion of So you're you're now accepting,
Speaker 2: as you said, that women are a subset of non.
Speaker 6: You know, real women. They didn't want to natural born women.
Speaker 10: They don't want to just write the word women without qualification.
Speaker 10: Like the idea that that there's just women without qualification
Speaker 10: there is now impossible because of course, you know, you
Speaker 10: can't set people against each other if you haven't you know,
Speaker 10: cut them up into different sort of categories and so on,
Speaker 10: like they're doing with this sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But you know, I've got some good news here for
Speaker 4: so it is fascinating.
Speaker 10: To me how Donald Trump is now even though we
Speaker 10: are weeks, you know, eight weeks away from inauguration day,
Speaker 10: seven weeks, he is now essentially the day facto president
Speaker 10: of the United States, and everybody is now dancing to
Speaker 10: his tune. And we have seen this past week on
Speaker 10: the subject of the border. He's got this great new
Speaker 10: born Chief Tom Holman, who is so tough and so
Speaker 10: strong on this stuff. He has threatened to arrest mayors
Speaker 10: who don't go along with, you know, enforcing the law
Speaker 10: about illegal migrants. Who would have thought that was a
Speaker 10: crazy idea. Anyway, The latest in this is New York
Speaker 10: Governor Kathy Hochel. Now, New York is a sanctuary state.
Speaker 10: They've of course got all sorts of problems with Trenda
Speaker 10: Arnegua Venezuelan gangs, things like that. She has now said, oh, no, no, no, no, sorry,
Speaker 10: we love legal immigrants, We love legal immigrants in New York,
Speaker 10: but we will call ice on any illegal who's called
Speaker 10: committing a crime. Is a huge change in total And again,
Speaker 10: you know, this starts from the top and flows downwards,
Speaker 10: that leadership that Trump is providing on the border, and
Speaker 10: it is fascinating.
Speaker 4: You know, we spoke about it.
Speaker 10: Earlier in the program, guys about how even in Britain
Speaker 10: with Keir Starmer, he is starting to talk Trump is
Speaker 10: changing the world. Suddenly, the whole, absolutely, the whole open.
Speaker 4: Borders narrative is over.
Speaker 10: It's over, and it's only because Donald Trump won that
Speaker 10: around the world everybody is now looking at open borders
Speaker 10: as disaster that it has been.
Speaker 2: Open borders over reads a climate change will be over
Speaker 2: when Trump pulls out a thingy.
Speaker 1: We've got.
Speaker 2: Everything woke is being attacked by Trump without him even
Speaker 2: lifting a finger. Yet we've got Jay Baticharia, who we
Speaker 2: referred to a couple of weeks ago. Last week we
Speaker 2: said that the rumors were that Trump was thinking of
Speaker 2: nominating him to head up the NIH. That has now
Speaker 2: been announced that Trump is nominating him, hasn't been confirmed
Speaker 2: yet that he is the nominee for heading up the NIH.
Speaker 1: So that's the whole.
Speaker 2: This is the guy who is the antithesis of the
Speaker 2: entire draconian COVID thing. We had him here on outside
Speaker 2: as before anybody else that did. By the way, here
Speaker 2: is Ja Bachuchari is speaking with the IPA when he
Speaker 2: was in Australia a couple of years ago.
Speaker 9: Why the lockdown in the first place. I think most
Speaker 9: countries just copy China. The World Health Organization looked that
Speaker 9: Chinese response in January twenty twenty and said, look at worked.
Speaker 9: We committed ourselves to a policy that has had devastating
Speaker 9: consequences on the poor, the vulnerable, the working class, and
Speaker 9: we did it in good faith, but they were mistaken.
Speaker 9: Admitting that mistake, admitting that those mistakes led to those
Speaker 9: harms as a very difficult thing to do. If we
Speaker 9: keep this kind of policy in place, then I think
Speaker 9: that is the end of liberal democracy. The censorship and
Speaker 9: the repression and the civil liberties violations we face will
Speaker 9: become the norm.
Speaker 10: And the great poetic justice here Rodan Rita is that
Speaker 10: he is nominated to head the very National Institutes of Health,
Speaker 10: whose bureaucracy we know tried to silence him and the
Speaker 10: other signatories and authors of the Great Baronton Declaration, which
Speaker 10: set out the way that we should have responded to
Speaker 10: COVID from the beginning.
Speaker 2: And basically, Joe's here on Outsiders right from the beginning,
Speaker 2: saying what he is now.
Speaker 6: Saying, Rita, Yes, you're right, I agree.
Speaker 38: I want you to go on to the topic about
Speaker 38: the Trump effect, and James mentioned that he is now
Speaker 38: the president already, He's not just a president X, He's
Speaker 38: the president.
Speaker 5: And that's evident on Thanksgiving when Justin Trudeau, the neo
Speaker 5: Marxist Kendole himself Adel Junior and met with Donald Trump,
Speaker 5: talked about tariff's trade, talks about all sorts of policies
Speaker 5: are there.
Speaker 6: He is a Mari Lago. Look at him, smiling, Look
Speaker 6: happy he is.
Speaker 5: And this is a big surprise because guess what, Joe
Speaker 5: Biden is actually still the president.
Speaker 6: He's still the leader of the free world.
Speaker 5: You would think Justin Trudeau would be somewhere out and
Speaker 5: around the White House having these meetings, but no, it's
Speaker 5: already this And you're so right, the Trump effect, whether
Speaker 5: it's Kirs Starmer talking like a conservative about immigration or
Speaker 5: Kathy Hokel, there is this change that they can't ignore the.
Speaker 6: Numbers.
Speaker 5: They can't ignore that there is an overwhelming mandate there
Speaker 5: and people want to see change.
Speaker 2: And this literally is a renaissance of the West. If
Speaker 2: things go well, we will see Donald Trump the next
Speaker 2: four years. We will see across the world all those
Speaker 2: kind of all the things we've been talking about on
Speaker 2: shows like this for years, about the transgender stuff, the
Speaker 2: woke stuff, the climate stuff, all of this is now
Speaker 2: under the spotlight and it will be transformed for the better.
Speaker 1: Mark my words.
Speaker 2: It's one of the most exciting times to be alive.
Speaker 2: I believe under what we're going to see under Trump
Speaker 2: is just sensational.
Speaker 1: And when you see Rita and James the.
Speaker 2: Way they attacked him, he was adult hit that he
Speaker 2: was a fascist, he was this and that, and now they're.
Speaker 4: All Russia very quickly on this.
Speaker 10: It's also fascinating to look where the corporate world is
Speaker 10: going on this. So many huge corporations now Walmart, I
Speaker 10: think was the latest ones. They are all ditching their
Speaker 10: programs of the big funds that invest in ESG and
Speaker 10: we're using ESG as a determinant where they put your
Speaker 10: money in your super or whatever. They're all taking a
Speaker 10: second look at that again because I realize there's no
Speaker 10: money in it.
Speaker 4: It's all a joke. It's just just friction in the workplace.
Speaker 2: Make sure you ware Street to Panahey during the week
Speaker 2: left he's losing it on Friday. James's US report on
Speaker 2: Friday as well, what's happening here on Sky News. We'll
Speaker 2: see you on Outsiders next Sunday morning, bright and.
Speaker 1: Early at nine am. Thank you so much for watching