WEBVTT - Outsiders | 1 December 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.680 Long, This is outside. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:19.080 Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:24.680 to bloated government bureaucracies, the billion dollar ABC and the 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:30.319 burly Griffin Billibong. What Vivic Ramaswami and Elon Musk will 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.280 be to draining the swamp. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:35.879 If you want to cut off one head of an 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.600 eight headed hydra, it grows right back. You want to 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.520 slay the beast, you cut it at its core? All right, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.600 you want to go far? We can't just make cuts 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.720 around the edges. And you're always taking a risk, right, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.599 Some people say you're going to cut too much. If 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.080 we're not cutting so much fat that we're also cutting 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.080 some muscle, then we're not doing it right. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.840 So we plan to go deep. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.080 We plan to go aggressive, we plan to go quickly, 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.240 and we will not apologize for doing the hard work 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.560 required to save our republic. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.960 Oh that's the blueprint for the new Department of Government Efficiency. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.160 But how will it actually work? 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.120 Maybe that could make a reality TV show out of 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:15.440 government efficiency. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.959 Welcome everybody, Thanks for coming in. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.119 What would you say it is that you do around here? 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.959 I mean a lot of days, I really do do stuff. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.600 It's just there's not that much going on Today. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.479 I help Tanner and Blaze replace those heavy five gallon 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:29.400 water containers. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.720 Tune in each week as Elon and Viva measure every 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.759 federal employee's value and efficiency an time. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.759 So your study on how cocaine enhances the sex flive 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:40.600 of Japanese quip? 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.600 What's that work for the American tax ban? 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.360 I think it's priceless. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.840 Meanwhile, thanks largely to the inflation caused by huge blow 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:56.040 to government spending, Americans and indeed Australian consumers struggle with 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.720 a whole new, terrifying ordeal every single day. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.720 It's called grocery shopping. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.400 Keep your eyes on me, Okay, can't you just stand 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.560 something less expensive? I can, but let's not forget. It's 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.880 the little things that add up. All right, Now, brace yourself. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.440 I'm about to do the mixed nuts. Oh go a little, Okay, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.800 bite down on this pressure. Get ready, I'm gonna do 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:19.520 the cured meats. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:21.680 Stop. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.239 I can't do us anymore. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:23.880 It's too late. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:24.880 There's a line behind you. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:25.880 Okay, you're locked in. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.440 True though, I think we're all going to be feeling 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.400 like that over Christmas, and now we bore the cost 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.280 of living drives. It's all completely bonkers. Let's grab the 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.320 latest Outsiders news. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.160 Well Richer and James. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.760 I'm wearing black today to mourn the death of common 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.400 sense and integrity in the Liberal Party. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.200 What could I possibly be referring to Rita. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.000 Oh, I've got some ideas. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.720 Could it be this hair brained notion that will just 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.760 ban under sixty means from social media? 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.520 That's the find no way around that. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:09.440 There's no unintended consequences with the policy, this idiotic. I 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.960 acknowledge it's well intentioned. I acknowledge that at the start 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.840 there was an acknowledgment that young people were having harms 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.680 caused by the amount of time they was on social media, 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:26.080 the content that were consuming, how they were interacting, that's 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:26.960 a given. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:28.120 But that's like. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:32.280 Saying, oh, we're a little bit fat as a population, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.000 let's just such. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.960 A fifty percent fat tax on everything. That's not how 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:38.840 you deal with this. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.760 And their unintended consequences here are grim. They're far reaching, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.320 and they're going to impact everybody. It's not going to 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.080 be impacting just the under sixteen. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.280 And for a. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:54.320 Liberal party that's supposed to be about free expression liberty, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.920 this is completely against those principles. It's very hard for 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.520 Peter Juntan to really coherently explain this position. It's the 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.840 sort of thing that on the surface level, sounds good. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.400 I'm sure it tests well at focus groups and tests 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.960 well amongst people who don't actually use social media. I 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.599 don't understand the platform, which sadly is probably most of 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.960 the politicians who really don't know what they're doing. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.240 And reads are on that point. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.880 Anybody who sits in a focus group. Let me trust 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.840 I've been in enough focus groups. Anyone who's sitting there, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.560 they don't have any friends, and they're certainly not on 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.480 social media. That's in sorry focus groups, by the way, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.599 our focus group that's testing outsiders. So yeah, we love it, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.440 fantastic focus here's your twenty. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.320 Five dollars valture. But you free. Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.640 But look, I mean, the thing is, as reader says, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.040 this is you know, on one level, you know, we 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.159 know that Jonathan hate arguments. We know that social media 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.919 is really bad for kids. It's bad for young people. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.479 The algorithms are rewiring kids' minds. They can't concentrate. This 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.640 is all the stuff that is absolutely true. The problem 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.520 is the way that they've gone about this I mean 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.960 as a matter of just democratic process too, just smashing 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.720 this through with barely any inquiry on this, and then 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.600 we're gonna have Matt canavan on talking a bit more 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.880 about this later. But you know, there was no consideration 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.200 actually how this is going to work. We all have seen, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.040 many of us seen the clips of Matt canavan questioning 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.440 what you know, the bureaucrats were going to do about. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.320 This, and they had no answers, They had no idea. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.400 One of the things that's amazing to me is this 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.960 idea that somehow the apps can determine when you're fifteen 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.400 years and three hundred and fifty five days old versus 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.159 sixteen years and one day old. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.960 Seo years old, what's going to happen here? The kids 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.680 that growing up on this, this is how they communicate. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.360 I think on a level, it's actually really quite cruel 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.400 to take away the means where a lot of these 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:54.120 kids find connection, that communicate, they find their people. And 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.960 even I don't want to be given credit here to 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.360 Julian mcgrant, the Safety commissioner, but it's something she is 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:05.560 acknowledged and legislation will empower her office like never before. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.560 So that's just another reason why to be cautious about it. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.120 But this is a way where people, particularly vulnerable kids, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.039 find others who look at life the same way. And 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.600 you know, they may not have them in their friendship group. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.360 They might not find those people. It's we find a try, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.800 but they might find someone like that. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.600 It's modern means, it's the modern marketplace. It's completely insane still, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:28.919 but let's just go through it. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.320 It is bad politics first and foremost for the Liberal 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.599 Party and the Labor Party. For the Liberal Party to 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.720 be this close to an election and not opposing every 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.480 single thing Labor do, because that's what you should be doing, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:41.200 Liberal Party. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.400 That's how you win elections. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.240 You don't sit there going, oh we quite agree, we 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.839 agree with them on this. Oh yeah, they've got a 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.200 point on that. That's how you lose elections. So first thing, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.800 bad bad political decision in. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:51.480 Every shape and way. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.240 You should have let Anthony Albini swing in the breeze 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.120 on this one, because Albinizi does not have a clue 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.320 about this pro about this policy. He doesn't understand it, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.200 he's got no idea how it works. So bad policy, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.520 bad politics, and bad policy because it's unenforceable. You never 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.240 make a law if you can't enforce it, because it 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.200 will backfire. Have a listened to Alberanisi attempting and failing 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.000 as usual, which is what he's best at, to explain 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.200 how this idiotic idea is going to work. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.920 Should Australians be prepared for having their faces scanned to 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.760 use social media? Should they be prepared to upload their 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.120 documents some sort of government database that social media companies 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.920 going to tap into for age verification? 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.480 I mean, what are the options here? 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.080 As you said, the assurance trial hasn't hasn't been finalized yet. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.040 Well, this is exactly what the age assurance trial is informing. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.480 He couldn't even answer it. He had to look to 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:46.640 his sidekick. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.080 Now Here, we are heading into an election which could 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.680 be as close as age or ten weeks away, probably 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.760 for a couple of months away, three or four months away. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:58.040 We're heading into an election and here's alban EASi clueless 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.760 about a policy, and we could have the Liberals sitting 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.280 there saying, look at that bloke, What an idiot. That 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.000 sums up everything this government's about. They don't know what 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.760 they're doing, they don't know what they're doing on energy, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.920 they don't know what they're doing on boarders. They don't 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.600 know what they're doing with Israel, they don't know what 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:13.440 they're doing with anything. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:13.920 Look at them. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.520 They've completely stuffed up this social media thing. That's what 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.960 they should have been doing. Instead they're sitting there going, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.240 oh yeah, yeah, what a good idea, you morons. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:24.280 And I cannot believe it. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:25.800 A friend of mine said to me this morning. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.320 His thirteen year old son is saying to him, Dad, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.000 I don't get it. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:30.760 I don't get it. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:31.880 Why can't I go. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:32.720 On social media? 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.720 What have you done, you liberal body to it generation 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.760 of people who would have been supporting you. I cannot 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.840 believe the uts of stupidity. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:46.320 Fire every single advisor in the Dutton team, Fire every 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.760 single one. They should be off tomorrow. They do not 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.000 deserve to be in a job, certainly not heading towards 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.800 an election retail well on. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.960 The back of the disastrous disinformation misinformation build that the 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.520 alban Easy government had to raw after being humiliated knowing 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.240 they were going to lose in the Senate. They would 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.480 have lost this in the Senate without the coalition support, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.120 because we know the Greens were against, with enough crossbenches 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:09.679 against it. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.200 And yet the coalition. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.080 Has said no, no, no, let us help you pass 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:16.600 these awful laws. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.160 Give you a big win on the board. Politically it 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:21.240 is idiotic. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.560 But we talked about the under sixties will probably find 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.360 a way around it, because this is what they do. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:30.360 That unsmad sixty over sixties. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.120 Who don't know about VPNs, who don't know how to 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.800 get around this, and who don't want to submit to 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.680 online identity. They don't want to submit to any sort 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.000 of identification to just access X or Instagram. So they'll 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.600 be the ones who miss out. And what about the inconsistencies, James, 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.400 The kids can still go on pornhups, they can act 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.000 hardcore porn, but they can't be. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.679 On X or Instagram. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.800 Well yeah, I mean, look is just the absolutely most 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.280 disgraceful thing. I mean, you know this is this is 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.360 this government here talks about you know, things like you know, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.240 the treatment of women, misogyny and all sorts of things 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.680 like that, and yet you know, on your phone these 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.480 kids can get pumped into them just the worst sort 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.840 of most misogynistic pornography you know, you can imagine. And 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.000 somehow that's okay. But the other thing too, politically, there's 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.480 another point of this here. You know, this is what 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.120 Albanez he does when he doesn't have something to do 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.600 about cost of living. So let's remember, cost of living 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.600 is the number one issue. We saw this in the 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.040 United States at the last election there, We're going to 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.880 see that in this election. Everywhere around the world. It's 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.200 constantly and costly cost living. This whole idea that you know, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.679 we've got you back, that's clearly the new Albanize government slogan. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.200 This does absolutely nothing to help with the price of 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.800 energy and the price of petrol, the price of groceries, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.680 the price of the price of borgage, your kids getting 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:55.800 into a house, any of that stuff. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:56.880 Doesn't do any. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.839 Of that stuff, but it creates the illusion of action 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.040 when in fact, you know, I think we've pretty much 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:09.280 established as Roland. You said, this law is basically unenforceable. Technologically, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.920 it's not going to happen, or if it does happen, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.560 it happens in such a way that it basically makes 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.359 Australia the sort of backwater. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.360 On the interview. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.720 COVID on steroids, and this is the joke about the 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:20.080 whole thing. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.480 We know, the dystopian the world is laughing at us. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.760 Well done, blokes at guys and girls over there in 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.880 the Liberal Party have listened to Jason Clair, one of 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:34.000 the labor ministers, proving James's point that this thing is 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.199 completely unworkable. They even know it's unworkable. Have listened to 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:37.839 Jason Clare. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.679 Now, I don't think it will be Yeah, they've got 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.280 to take reasonable steps, that's the language in the legislation 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.000 to make sure that there isn't someone under the age 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.440 of sixteen on their platform. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.040 You know, they should be doing that now. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:51.960 And Instagram said that they were going to up the 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.040 endy a couple of months ago on this. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.480 So what could they do that besides a facial recognition 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:57.960 or something. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.520 How are they going to work that up? 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.760 Maybe it's important to make the point none of this 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.719 is going to be perfect now. None of this is 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.600 going to make sure that every child under the age 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.760 of sixteen is not going to end up on TikTok 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.120 in the same way that there's you know, young people 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.840 under the age of eighteen that can get access to 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.240 alcohol as well, which was. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.160 The whole argument, which is the whole point of doing 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.120 so you've just admitted that things complete failure. The only 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.040 people as Rita said, who will miss out are the 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.920 grandparents who are sitting there going, why can't I talk 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.080 to little Johnny, you know, on the other side of 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.920 the country, my weekly chat with my grandkids on the 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.600 grand can be Sorry, brand I'm not allowed on social media. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:32.960 Sorry. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.840 They're the only people who will suffer other grandparents, trust me, unbelievable. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:38.640 I don't have a point here. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.640 All that, But because if they don't want to have 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.719 some sort of online identity check, if they don't want 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.280 to submit to that, could they can't establish their. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.600 Overseiness social media? 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.480 People only lose out of this. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:53.880 Guys. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.480 Here's the thing, a law that, as Jesson clear has acknowledged, 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.240 will be flouted by every buddy. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:00.680 Everybody. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:01.480 Listen, listen. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.959 The rules here say that, you know, it has to 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.320 be about reasonable steps. So every company will say we're 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.280 taking reasonable steps. And then what this here could also 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.480 be is a way too for the government to say 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.240 we don't like the way this particular company's algorithm is 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.920 working I e X and the sort of stories and 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.839 news they're promoting. So therefore, oh, enforcement wise, we're going 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.400 to take a look, particularly at X about this. Now, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.560 every single social media company will be in technical violation 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.240 of this. So this, you know, sort of damocles will 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.720 hang over every social media is company to companies head 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.320 and this is how the government will then be able 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.440 to leaverridge control over what Australians would see on their. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.480 FeAs control and read to the whole point is they're 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.960 already going, oh YouTube, that's in, No it's out, or 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.040 the Wiggles said let's keep it in, so it's in, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.160 you know once that what do we think? This is 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.760 government control? As James says, this is draconian. This will 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.160 be COVID on steroids. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.199 Well in and we already have had the Safety Commissioner 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:02.160 have this. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:05.640 I was going to say fat while, but I don't 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.000 want to be sued. Vendetta is a better word. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.040 Vendetta against Elon Musk, against X because X is the 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.400 only platform that tries to have some semblance of balance, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:21.600 not to suppress conservatives, ban conservatives. That's still happening on 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.560 Instagram and Facebook, on Zuckerberg's platforms, so X and they 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.680 did some research on this and CNN reported this recently 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.440 is now almost. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:31.760 Fifty to fifty. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.120 It's still a little bit more left leaning as far 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.840 as you look at the US. There's still a few 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.280 more Democrats than Republicans on it, but it's the closest 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:44.720 we have got to actually having some equality and a genuine, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.400 really free speech platform. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.000 And I'm sure reader. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.320 Going to be targeted. It's going to be Elon Master already. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.600 Do you remember when the Bishop Mamoun was stabbed out 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.000 in Western Sydney, they made a move to censor the 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:03.360 video of that event specifically on X. It was all 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.840 about that, and we know that Julian mcgrant has absolutely 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.360 no love lost for for Elon Musk. So it's a 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.440 you know, this is about this sort of disruptive pro freedom, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:18.000 pro information versus the gatekeepers. And it's really funny to see, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.560 you know, labor on the side of the gatekeepers here. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.880 They want to they want to gatekeeper what you're allowed 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.760 to say. The big problem that everybody has with X, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.880 the problem that everybody has that's leaving X they're probably 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.000 you know, is that people are allowed to say things 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.160 on IT that is not being sens out. They're going, oh, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.920 X is terrible because people are allowed to say and 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.720 report things and you get raw floods of things, you know, 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.720 and there against that. It shows why so much of 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.720 the mainstream media is in real difficulty. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.400 Now I want to move on talking about banning. They're 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.800 banning people now from Parliament as well. Lydia Thorpe has 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.800 been was banned from the Senate this week. Let's have 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.760 a listen to Lydia Thorpe yelling out some pretty vile 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.000 Palestinian garbage, which seems to be her latest thing. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.680 Yes, very very palist. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.000 I call the clerk. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.280 I call the clerk. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.640 She is tiresome and painful, rita. What do you make 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.280 of her being tossed out of the Senate for the 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:18.920 day or whatever? 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:25.360 That she's comical at this point, Lydia self parody it is. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.720 It's almost amusing because there are people whose voting record 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.200 in the Upper House is as abysmal as hers. At 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.440 least she brings some entertainment. So it's hard for me 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:42.720 to be genuinely angry at her because she's a character, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.760 almost a characterture that has been enabled by the far 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.320 left and the left generally in this country. This just 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:55.760 almost from central casting her belief system. It's just so idiotic, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:01.080 so intellectually vacuous. But you know what, I can find 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:06.240 far more glowing media reports and features on Lydia Thorpe 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.640 and you know when she was first elected and came 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.919 in holding her fist up and you know, and that 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.639 sort of identity politics has been so celebrated in this 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:21.560 country that we shouldn't be surprised that. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.159 You're right, she's the logical conclusion of the education system 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.720 and that we have in this country. She's the logical 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.680 conclusion of where the media pushed many of the arguments. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.880 Well, no, that's exactly right. And the other thing too 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.840 about Lydia Thorpe is that you know, she left her 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.400 party and so you know, this is something I think 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.120 that we really need to have a real think about 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.760 in this country too, is when you are collected to 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.480 a party on a ticket, you're elected, set a ticket, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.720 you know it's not you who's running specifically, and then 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.960 you get into the Senate and then you ditch that party. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.240 Well, what's what's the reason for you being there? You 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:51.680 shouldn't be. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.440 Someone who did that was, of course, Fatima Payman. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.760 I'll be talking later on in the show where she 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.080 and Lydia Thorpe belong in clown show. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.560 Of course, yes, disgraceful. 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.440 I don't think enough has been said that I think, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.520 at least with Lydia these days, after the you know, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.359 the glowing commentaries died down, she now actually does have 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.800 some scrutiny, including from the media. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.680 But payment what she did. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.160 This week, and I know you're going to be talking 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.119 about it later in the program. I thought that was 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.720 one of the most disgusting things I've seen on the Australia. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:27.720 Let's just show what we're talking about. 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.880 In another statement, she says, we're bringing in people from 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.800 South Africa at the moment, there's a huge amount coming 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.160 into Australia who. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.240 Have disease, they've got AIDS. If that is not racist, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:40.960 what is it? 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:43.560 Yeah? 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.640 No, she said a lot more than that. That's I'm 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.159 sure we'll be playing it later in the program. The 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:56.440 comments she made towards Senator Hanson were absolutely despicable, beneath contempt, 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:57.560 and I think. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.480 She gets away with it because she wears a jab. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.600 She's a picture of diversity in Australia and I can 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.280 tell you wearing a huge ab should not give you 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:09.800 a pass for behaving that way. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.320 In part well, what was worse to have the. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.320 Way she behaved James, was that she accused Senator Hanson 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.160 of racism based on some comments a legitimate comment from 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.160 twenty thirty years ago about people with HIV or AIDS 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.800 coming in from an area which had a large population 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.600 that had HIV AIDS, so a perfectly legitimate medical comment 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.800 which Payment but also accused her of racism. But what 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.520 is sickening is that Fatima Payman. I don't hear her 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.159 calling out racism. When we have people marching up and 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.040 down the streets with their anti Semitic behavior, smashing cars 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.440 in Wallara, smashing Christmas decorations outside Myers, yelling about. 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.400 F the Jews or where's the Jews. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.159 Or anything else. We don't hear a word from Fatima Payment. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.080 That's racism. Fatima Payment, what you condone or or what 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.480 you don't condemn? Sorry, I'll rephrase out what you fail 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:58.280 to condemn. 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:59.639 There, that is, and did you walk past? 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:01.520 Did you walk past? 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.520 The one thing I will say in her defense is 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.359 that she did essentially kill off the misinformation bill, So 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.240 you can kind of give her a little bit of 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.400 credit for that one there. But you know that said though, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.520 there's also have a huge problem with this whole idea 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.560 of policing the lines of debate what are acceptable things, 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.959 what are unacceptable things to talk about, which is exactly 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.600 what her and the left when they entertained her are 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.679 trying to do. And you know, we're talking a bit 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.240 later in the program about you know, the way even 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.920 on the left people are talking about immigration in ways 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.359 that they weren't you know, even a year ago in 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.040 Britain and places like that. We do not need more 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.840 policing of debate on these matters. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:41.680 Absolutely, And we've also seen in Victoria they've honored an 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.680 interesting choice for honors award. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:51.120 Oh yes, yeah, this is a woman who sign it's Victoria, 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:52.920 It's Victoria. What can you say? 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:57.120 This is a woman who has disputed the sexual violence, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.440 the rapes that happened on October seven, who has said 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.360 that Hezbolla is not a terror group, who has defended 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.080 some of the most vile anti semitism we see out 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:14.080 of from Palestinians, saying that's their lived experience. It's and 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.359 to be put on an honor roll for women in 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:22.159 twenty twenty four by a Victorian government minister, it just 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:27.080 shows you how broken Victoria is. It's depressing as a Victorian. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:28.560 It's a state that's. 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.920 Not only broke, and I say that not to engage 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.000 in hyperbole. It's broke biggest state debt in the country 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.240 by far land tax, payroll tax, the state taxes. 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:40.680 Are through the roof. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.000 People are hurting, people are fleeing, and then on top 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.840 of that, to have things like that happen that are 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.160 just demoralizing for normal people. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:52.639 Victoria's in a lot. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.919 Of trouble, absolutely so as the country when you've got 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.440 people like Penny Wong wandering around suggesting that, for example, 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.719 Benjamin would be arrested if he came into this country, 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.440 and she's suggested that she would abide by the law. 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.639 Just before we finish up on the senator payment, the 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:14.320 comment that really I thought was out of bounds is 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.359 when she said that Senator Hanson is a disgrace to 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:24.800 the human race. That's to say something that dehumanizing about 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:31.000 a fellow anybody, fellow Australian, I think is just absolutely disgusting. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.719 And I hope there's an apology in the future and 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.360 we can numb because we. 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.840 Wait with Beaty Brown after the break more Rita her 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.520 reality check us across to London to get the latest 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:42.440 in UK politics. 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.159 Admyral Central Nathan can't wait, can I tick. 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:56.040 You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan Dean James Morrow, 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.880 and I'm Rita Panaghy And every night on the Riata 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.560 Panehy show we feed left is losing it, and people 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.439 do ask me very regularly, how do you come up 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:09.080 with so many examples of so called progressives be clowning themselves? 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.480 And the honest answer is there. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.600 Is always far more material than there is time, no 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.480 shortage of content. As to the question of whether we 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.640 should so mercilessly mock the leftist saloons, well, consider fact 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.160 that these self delighted, delusional miscreants are happy to call 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.120 you a Nazi, a fascist, a bigot for holding views 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.520 like men can't have babies. They call you racist for 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.719 wanting everyone to be treated equally instead of giving special 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:42.240 privileges based on color ethnicity. They backed every totalitarian measure 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:47.080 to punish those who challenge the insane COVID era overreach, 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:51.879 including every unscientific, draconian rule. They were more than happy 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.919 for people to lose their livelihoods to be punished for 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.760 not abiding by these illogical, illiberal orders. 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.360 Again and again they have shown who they are. 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.360 So no, I don't have any qualms about mocking them silly. 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.520 After all, the left has all the institutional power. They have, 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.840 the universities, government bodies, the big corporates, Hollywood entertainment industry. 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.639 They are right for some humbling and talking about Hollywood. 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.160 More than one star will feature in today's top five 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:23.840 Lefties Losing. 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.080 It meltdowns of the week. 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:29.719 Coming in at number five is Sharon Stone, proving that 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.760 wisdom does not always come with age. Some folk just 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.359 get dumber and double down on the breathtaking ignorance. 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.560 Here she is in Italy mouthing off about the election result. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:48.760 You know, Italy has seen fascism. Italy has seen these things. 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:56.960 You guys, you understand what happens. You have seen this before. 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:02.760 Americans who don't travel, who eighty percent don't have a passport, 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:10.240 who are uneducated, are in their extraordinary naivete. 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.440 Oh she's not just bitter and hateful. 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.720 She's also as dumb as a box of rocks. And 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.800 that line about eighty percent of Americans not having a 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.879 passport is a myth. Around one in two Americans have 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.600 a passport. Maybe she was mixing America up with Japan, 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.920 or only about twenty percent of citizens have a passport. 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.120 Now let's get to number four. 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.720 I love nothing more than watching Lefty's turn on each other. 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.960 And in the aftermath of Kamala's humiliating loss, we have 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:45.200 the old guard, the veteran Democrats like strategist James Carvell, 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.280 turning on the young progressives. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.400 Not only am I not interested in your opinion, I'm 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.680 not even going to call you by your name. You're 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.520 twenty three years old. I don't really give it. What 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.399 is think if I were run in a twenty twenty 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.359 eight campaign and I had some little snot nosed, twenty 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.600 three year old saying I'm going to resign if you 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.399 don't do this, Not only would I fired on the spot, 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.960 I would find out who hired them and fire that 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:22.640 person on the spot. I'm really not interested and you're uninformed, 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:24.560 stupid jackass opinion. 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.400 Kind of I'm warming to him. I've got to sign 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.560 a few philosophies there. 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.720 We can pick up now another Hollywood simpleton who is 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.560 not handling the election result well. As Alec Baldwin. He 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.200 had this to say about his countrymen. 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.680 Americans are very uninformed about reality. 0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:50.040 What's really going on with climate change Ukraine is the 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.879 way you named all the biggest. 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:56.400 Topics in the world, but Alec is positively euphoric when 0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.679 compared to actress and former view host Rosie o'donald, who 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.200 has completely lost the plot. She comes in at number 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.480 two on the week's biggest Lefty mountdowns. 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.480 But it's hard to avoid it when it's so blatantly 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.920 obvious when you look at the parallels that we have 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:21.280 been here before as a world. When democracy falls, you know, 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:28.359 fascism takes its place, right capitalism and it's come. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:35.480 Yes, democracy has been defeated by democracy. Trump's landslide victory 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.840 somehow signals the end of democracy and the rise of fascism. 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.080 These people are so hopelessly broken. But there was one 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.639 clear standout this week, the number one lefty losing. 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.800 It was the woman who squandered more than a billion 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.960 dollars to lose the Electoral. 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.679 College, the Senate, the House, the popular vote, and whose 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.880 staff clearly hate her, because why would they have her 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.040 filmed this and then release it. 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:06.919 I just have to remind you, don't you ever let 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.879 anybody take your power from you. You have the same 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:15.720 power that you did before November fifth, and you have 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.120 the same purpose that you did. 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:24.280 Why why did they do that to her? Everything from 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.960 the hideous backdrop there look like the curtains of a 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.920 cheap motel on the highway, to the VP's own appearance, 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:33.600 to the. 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.200 Contents of the message. 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.679 Hostage videos I've seen are more joyful than that. The 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.680 whole thing was a ghastly unnecessary waste. 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.960 Of time, much like a campaign. 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.920 And you know what, Kamalai, if you do run again, 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.640 and apparently you want to run again, make sure you 0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.200 sack every single person who told you that video. 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.480 It was a good idea. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.720 Fantastic thanks and of course you can watch. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.720 He's losing at Rita's wonderful show every night she's got 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.560 her segment plus Friday nights left. 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.440 He's losing it, charging to the number one position there 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.760 on Friday Night. Well done, Rita, excellent stuff. 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.480 Let's bring in our former Reform UK candidate to Mayra 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:19.040 and Central Nathan live from London where Mayron always great 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.000 to see you. We've had Keir Starmer come out and 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.640 accusing the Rishi Sunak or the Tory government of a 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:31.280 deliberate plan to bring in an experiment to have open borders. 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:32.040 Let's have a listen. 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:43.400 This happened by design, not accident. Policies were reformed deliberately 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:49.360 to liberalize immigration. Brexit was used for that purpose to 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:54.240 turn Britain into a one nation experiment in open borders 0:29:55.520 --> 0:30:00.640 global Britain. Remember that slogan, that is what they meant, 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.280 a policy with no support of which they then pretended 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:06.480 wasn't happening. 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.880 So Myron he goes on to blame brexits for the 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.640 mass immigration that's going What is going on in the UK? 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.440 Is this like the real deal? What's happening? 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:22.520 Well, these figures one million nets, I'd like to remind 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.920 you it's net figures that we're talking about coming into 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.040 the UK on June twenty twenty three. And we're not 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.440 talking about the small votes here. Just to clarify, we're 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.000 not talking about illegal immigration. We're talking about legal immigration 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.520 near enough a million people coming in. 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:37.840 On June twenty twenty three. 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:43.560 And this isn't about negligence or just incompetence. This is 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:47.720 about pure deceit by the Conservative Party, of all parties, 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.240 we're talking about David Cameron's a made Boris Johnson, Rishie 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.720 Sunak basically open the borders. They've looked the British public 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.160 in the art who repeatedly voted for immigration to being 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:04.120 attendent about and then immediately turned around and open the borders. 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:08.760 Nigel Faraja has described this as a political betrayal that 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.240 the lights which we've never seen in British history, one 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.520 of the biggest we've ever seen. And the thing that 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.880 we have to realize is that immigration is obviously, especially 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.640 when it's cheap, low skilled immigration, it's going to be 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.600 a net drain in the economy. It's going to be 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.440 a massive stress on the infrastructure. But immigration is not 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.440 like other issues like the economy and a health service. 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.040 If the economy goes down or the health service goes down, 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.560 there are leavers you can pull to get it back 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:38.120 on track. The immigration at this scale causes irreversible damage 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.840 to the culture and identity of a country, and it 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.520 takes thousands of years to build a culture, and we're 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.880 being decimated in about two or three decades. So this 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.160 isn't just bad policy. This is actually the death of 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.360 a nation in slow motion. That's what we're seeing here. 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.200 So this is for me, a democratic emergency to get 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.160 everyone on board to stop voting for the Conservative Party, 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.959 to stop voting for socialist labor Kis Starmer is an 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.960 absolute hypocrite. We need to get behind Nigel Faraje and 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.440 a reform party to actually save this country. 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.360 James well maron how bad must the internal polling be 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.520 for labor and for Keir Starmer on this that they 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.360 have suddenly decided to have this road to Damascus or 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:26.800 possibly a roade from Damascus moment about migration, because I'm 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.200 old enough to remember, this is a huge deflection. 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:29.520 You know. 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.080 In two thousand and nine, remember that Andrew Neither, who 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.720 was adviser to Tony Blair, came out and said that 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:40.000 the Tony Blair migration policies were all about quote rubbing 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.920 the rights nose in diversity. So this is the labor 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.280 policy here, and there seems to me like an incredible 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.760 deflection to me that suddenly they're blaming the right for this. 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.480 Yeah, look, you cannot trust Kirs Starmer's words. He is 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.720 what I've noticed Kairs Starmer is every politician may be 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:02.280 slightly elastic with the truth, can say kiss Starmer is 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.720 very very comfortable lying to the British public, and he 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.880 is simply saying what he knows. He's been advised to 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.720 say what he thinks the British public want to hear 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.960 in the moment. Look, he is ideologically wedded to open borders. 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.240 He is ideology wedded to refugees welcome. 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.360 He will not deflect. He will not control immigration. 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.560 He's promised to smash the gangs and stop illegal migration 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.320 from France. 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:28.760 They've only increased. 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.920 So there's no way his party, or even even in 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.280 his own self, will allow him to control immigration. He 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.440 believes in the global citizen, not the British citizen. 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.600 But yet she has also talked about tackling illegal immigration recently, 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:49.200 which is astonishing. Open border Starmer suddenly is sounding like 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:49.960 Donald Crump. 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.320 And the polling. 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.600 I want to ask you about Myron. There's polling that's 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.600 come out just in the past week showing that Nigel 0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:01.959 Farage now has a high favorability rating then Kiirstarma and 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:07.400 a lower un favorability rating. Is it a possible I 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.680 know where you stand on this, but let's be realistic. 0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:14.440 Is it possible to break that labor Tory duopoly and 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.200 have a third party win an election? 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.520 Well, Nigel Faraj has put it like this. 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.160 I think every kind of let's say five hundred years 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.960 or something like that, there's a moment where the where 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.879 the public wake up and they start to realize that 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.640 there is a new political climate that we need. Now 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.320 we've had the conservative part of fourteen years. I've just quoted, 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.279 we just looked at the migration figures there. 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:40.879 We now have a labor. 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.200 Socialist government, which in four months I think is the 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.880 most unpopular, most unprecedented negative pole and you could possibly 0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.279 imagine reform UK of Nigel Farage needs to look at 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.280 things on a six month by six month basis. 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.800 We've got county. 0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.920 Council elections coming in in six months time, in sort 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.759 of made time. If we do well, then that will 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.200 build a further base. And what we're doing now is 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.160 grassroots structures across the country. We've got one hundred thousand 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.239 members that have joined in just sort of four or 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.400 five months. We've got four hundred branches across the country. 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.960 We have the momentum, we had the trajectory, and I 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.920 see if you judge us on a six month by 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.480 six month basis, I think it is possible. 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.920 It is possible, but we need the. 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.640 Public behind us and we need to really understand the 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.560 gravity of the situation. I honestly believe as I said before, 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.319 we're in a democratic emergency. We need a handbrake turn 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.960 and we only have four years to save this country. 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.319 If the British public wake up to that, I think 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.479 definitely Nigel Farage has a very strong chance of getting 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:44.120 to number ten. 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.480 Well, Mayran, I think it was Shakespeare. Wasn't it a 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.320 Time and tides? The tide and times of men turning? 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.279 Or whatever it was? But I think you're right about that. 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.279 There's this time and talk a little bit. 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:55.640 Thank you. 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.120 There was a call, there's been a call for a 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.719 general election, so there's been a a kind of online 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.040 petition which has gathered nearly three probably over three million 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:10.160 by now signatures. Now that is unprecedented by itself. So 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:11.000 the man and. 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.480 Woman on the street in Britain are they fed up? 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.040 Do you think? You know? 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.919 As Reda says, can we see a Nigel FARAGPM, I'd 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:18.200 love to. 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.279 I think it'd be great. I've been wanting that for. 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:20.920 A long term. 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.520 Well, they're absolutely fed up, and I think it's worth 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.560 sort of informing your viewers that on paper, Kirstan and 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.799 Labor Party have a very strong constitutional mandate because they 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.920 had all the right votes in the right places so 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.800 they've got the right seats, enough seats to get into parliament. However, 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.759 nationally eighty percent of the public didn't vote for them, 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.040 so they had a very weak national mandate, a strong 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.239 constitutional mandate, but a week national mandate, and so they've 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:56.600 called it a loveless Landslide has said that they have 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.920 a mandate as wide as the ocean, shallow as a 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.600 village pond, and I. 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.759 Think that's a situation. So this is a very very 0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:06.640 fragile government. 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.840 And if you imagine, it's quite difficult to get the 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.520 average person politically motivated to actually get up and do 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.560 something about changing the country. But when this petition went round, 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.680 it's amazing at how fast it gathered pace. So many 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.000 people just pause their Netflix, put down their cup of 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:25.840 tea and actually thought, you know what, I'm going to 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:30.000 sign this petition because the anger and venom is so strong. 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.960 Because like Andrew Neil mentioned really in a recent article, 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.759 people have woken up that we now have amateur politicians, 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:44.840 student politicians that use vain ideology ahead of pragmatic policy. 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.680 And that's the way I would describe everything's about identity politics, 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.120 NET zero clamping down on freedom of speech, hate speech 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.120 and so on, and we've seen it in a recent 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.960 socialist budget. So much boring, so much taxation. Yet they're 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.520 saying white wives and their growth. We don't know what 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.400 they're doing. Amateur politicians who are playing fast and loose 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:04.800 with the lives of British citizens. 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:06.960 Myron, you think you got it bad, you should come 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:12.640 to Australia. We specialize in undergraduate student left wing politicians. 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.399 Without a clue as to what they're doing. 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.560 Just quickly before we go, the farmers strikes this inheritance 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.400 taxt want to get your thoughts on that, and also 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:25.160 the BBC running around Palestinian colors, left, right and center. 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.560 Give us a quick thirty seconds on each of those. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.120 Thanks, Well, I think that the farmers. 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.160 It's it's strange how Labor Party has wasted so much 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.680 political capital trying to fight the farmers who are so 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.440 popular for the sake of half a billion pounds. 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:39.480 Why are they doing this? 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.959 Well, I believe they're doing this primarily because they don't 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.640 believe that you should pass your property onto your future generations. 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.240 They believe your property is the property of the state, 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.839 and they also believe that they want to that your 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.400 property should be used. 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.920 For net zero solar farms and web farms. 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.799 And so this is really a loud rab situation destroying 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.400 a pillar of our British community, which is our family farmers. 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.560 With regards to the BBC and Palestine, well her massa 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.160 get engaged in asymmetric warfare which is all about trying 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.880 to provoke Israel, not to win the war, but to 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.759 win the proper gander war, and the BBC are the 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:21.840 useful idiots in that propaganda war, you know, highlighting anti 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.799 Israel rhetoric, grow her mask, glorifying her mass And now 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.879 some of their employees are actually wearing you know, Palestinian 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.839 palaestinine color to be encouraged to wear this stuff, and 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.600 so all of this is going on, and yeah, I 0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.080 think the Jewish community are starting to realize that whether 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.880 it's their health service who are also wearing Palaestinian colors, 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.720 or it's their impartial broadcasting service, there is a normalization 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.040 of anti Semitism that's starting to prevail. 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.360 And I think that's the real problem. 0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.000 Mayra and Central Nathan. Always great to chat to you, 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.120 such great insights, and we'll chat to you again soon. 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:55.800 And if we don't chat to you, before then, have 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.400 a very merry Christmas. That's there, Mara, and they're in 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.400 London coming up. What's more happen here on Outsiders? 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.399 Don't go away? Matt Canavan in a tick. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.280 You're watching Outsiders and thank you so much for watching 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.440 Outsiders every Sunday morning and yet again read it James, 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.520 yet again making us the number one show on all 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.480 of Sky News Australia. I love how you do it 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.680 all the audience side, I know, thank you so much. 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.640 We certainly do appreciate your loyalty very very much. 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:28.759 Now what a week. 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.640 We've talked before about what happened in Parliament with the 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.960 under sixteen social media ban. 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:34.800 Well, if you were. 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:39.440 Watching, you were probably watching it streaming on social media. 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.759 And that was the great irony, an irony that was 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.759 picked up by Matt Canavan, Senator Matt Canavan who made 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:47.399 one of. 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.920 The great political speeches I thought of his. 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.840 Career, as I said on social media, prime ministerial material. 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.719 And I was not the only person to say that. 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:02.120 But what's Matt specific. We noticed was that longtime political 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.880 activist Anthony Khalouf, who's known for his organizing of anti 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:11.000 lockdown protests, he actually went to jail during the pandemic 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:15.080 for organizing anti lockdown protests. He was live streaming. He's 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.600 got Australians versus the agenda. Is his Twitter handle there, 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.640 and he was highlighting the importance of freedom of online 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:23.600 media platforms. 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:27.520 Will Matt Canavan noticed this referred. 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.800 To the fact that here we were debating social media 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.719 banning social media when social media was live streaming far 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.160 more people than ever normally watch Parliament, have a listen 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:38.480 to this. 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.080 Why is it that we've got this bill that seeks 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.480 to we think, we say the mister says to help 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.480 parents and the word parent is not mentioned at all 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.279 in the bill. There's not a single mention of the 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.160 world word parent in this bill. Why there is a 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.040 silver lining here? Perhaps Right now a guy called mister 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:02.239 Anthony Kaloof is running a live stream of our broadcast. 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:06.440 He has thirty eight thousand people watching. The official YouTube 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.080 channel of Parliament has eight hundred. He's got thirty eight 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:14.000 thousand young people absolutely pissed off with this Parliament right 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:14.520 now watching. 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.080 So here's a special trip for you. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.839 We've got both Matt Canavan and Anthony Khalub together here. 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.400 There's Matt up on the wall. Matt, we've got Anthony 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.040 in the studio. We'll cut to him in the second. 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.640 Area's Anthony. So Matt, let's go to you first, wearing 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:33.319 your normally understated Sunday morning attire. I'm glad to see 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:37.600 just in cases any doubt as to who we're talking to, Matt. 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.960 You must be up in Queensland somewhere. It looks beautiful 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:40.920 as it always does. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.959 Now tell us you spotted the amazing irony that here 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.840 was more people watching Parliament banning social media thanks to 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:50.800 social media. 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:55.640 Matt, Well, look, I think what's happened this week has 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.719 activated a whole generation of Australians. And as I noted, 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.280 that's perhaps a silver lining from what was a bitter 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.600 sweet last week of Parliament. I don't think we should 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.839 forget that the week started with a smashing victory on misinformation, 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:15.480 such a comprehensive defeat for that terrible anti Deycree democratic 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.800 law that even the Labour Senators on Monday voted against 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:23.000 their own law to dis charge the misinformation law. Because 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.440 of all the great work of yourselves here on outsiders, 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.280 all of your viewers, people like Anthony on social media, 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.640 all made that difference now the end of the week 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.920 wasn't so joyful. Of course, with the passing of this 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.279 draconian band, this blanket ban. It was done within the 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.600 cloak of darkness on late on a Thursday night. We 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.120 did get some amendments to rule out the compulsory use 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.239 of digital ID, so that was one win thanks to 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.640 the Posse all fighting against that. But still, look, it 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.799 wasn't the way to make laws in our parliament. And 0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.080 as I say now, I think a whole lot of 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.040 people have woken up. I've come home to my five kids, 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.080 never before more engaged in politics. 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.319 Well, let's go go to Anthony Kalf. 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:06.280 About what's happened. 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.399 Anthony, that was largely you were doing. 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.080 You've been very hot on this issue on social media. 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.239 You've run a social media campaign Australian's VERSUSY agenda. I 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.880 certainly follow it. I urge outsiders to follow you on 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.880 X What was it like that moment Matt Canavan Suddenly 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:21.400 there you are, he's talking about you. 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:21.920 Yeah. 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.160 Well, we were streaming for up to fifteen hours that 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:30.040 night and got to a really climactic moment where once 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.440 I heard my name shouted out, I was in absolute disbelief. 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:34.439 As you can see there. 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:40.319 And the biggest takeaway from outside of the fact that 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:45.000 that was actually named and called out in the Senate Chamber, 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.040 I really I feel like the bill itself is an 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.200 attempt to undermine the digital literacy of people to be 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.840 able to do what I did on that Thursday evening, 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.080 which is to cultivate the attention of lawmakers like Matt 0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:02.040 Canavan and I I want to show people that someone 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.040 just like me that has a basic understanding of digital 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.879 literacy is able to accomplish that. But I think that 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.440 this bill is as an attempt to undermine the ability 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:12.040 to do that. 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:14.560 And we saw in. 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:21.120 The US election just how powerful those platforms were. People 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.840 were far more likely to hear a candidate with a 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:29.239 podcaster than they were to watch ACNN town halls. This 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.839 is how people now consume us, this is how people communicate. 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.839 And to be removing a whole segment of the community 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.799 from that, what can you see as the impact of that? 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.440 And do you think kids are going to find their 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.440 way around it? But older Australians who perhaps aren't as 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.920 tech savvy are the ones who are going to be impacted. 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.239 Well, I think the government has severely underestimated the ability 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:57.600 for people like myself and the generation that's now coming 0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:01.360 through to be able to do such things like cultivating 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.960 an audience. And I think one thing that I do 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.560 want to say is that Matt Canavan recognizing what I 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.960 had done over the week on Thursday is a testament 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.600 to the difference between politicians that respect and understand this 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.640 new generation of people that are now being outspoken on 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.200 social media, and then on the other side, the government 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:28.439 currently undermining these people, and that gap between the two 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:32.000 is becoming a real big chasm. And I think that 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.279 we're going to see the results of the election coming 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.440 up reflect that James and Matt. 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:38.960 You know, some of the stuff that I was really 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.759 impressed was not so much in the Senate chamber, but 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.480 in the hearings about the bill and some of the 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.480 questionings that went on around the bill. We have found 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.520 out that they don't really even know what services are 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:52.879 going to be covered and what's not. 0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.399 Whether or not YouTube's in or out. 0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.520 We do know that pornography will not be regulated, so 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.400 even though there's an eight year limit on whether or 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.000 not you can look into pornography, say that's not going 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.560 to be enforced and we know that there was virtually 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.840 no actual debate in the Senate. This seems like a 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:14.120 rushed and completely anti democratic move here. 0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:17.200 Well, I think you're right, James. 0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.560 I think the lack of answers in that Senate inquiry 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.360 was reflective of the rush nature of this bill. We 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.680 first saw the bill, anybody in the public and myself 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:27.400 anyone else, first saw the bill Thursday, the week prior, 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.320 and by Thursday night in the Senate a week later, 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.080 this whole New World leading apparently piece of legislation had 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:34.640 passed through. 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:35.960 It's completely inadequate. 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.280 It's an insult to the Australian people that fifteen thousand 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.880 Australians made a submission within twenty four hours to a 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.719 Senate inquiry's bill, yet we still rushed it through within 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:45.080 a week. 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.839 How could we all give due credence to. 0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:53.400 Those fifteen thousand people with such a rushed, truncated process. 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.680 It was a really sad day, a sad week for 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.360 democracy in this country to do that. It was clearly 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.440 just for so that a bunch of politicians could big 0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.840 note themselves about having done something before Christmas, when we 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.839 know in this bill it doesn't actually come. 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.240 Into effect until after the next Christmas. There was no rush. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.840 We could have easily extended the inquiry after receiving fifteen 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:15.720 thousand submissions and clearly seen the cinciment out there and delayed. 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:17.280 Matt, do you think part. 0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.800 Of that was almost Albot wanting to get a big 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:21.800 win on the board. 0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:23.120 The voice was going to be his. 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:27.320 Moment constitutional change that didn't happen. Now he's got world 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.840 first legislation. You know, you can boast about this. CNN's 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:32.799 reporting on it, BBC's reporting on it. 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.680 We'll get a job at the un you want. 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.600 Do you think it was about We're going to chalk 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.040 up a win, And the question has to be asked, 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:42.719 why would Peter Dutton help him do that? 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:44.040 Yeah? 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.920 Absolutely, Well, look at one hundred percent that what it 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.200 was about. And look, it is sad. 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.600 I've just supported my own side definitely conspired here to 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.960 generate that outcome. I recognize that there are a lot 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:59.760 of my colleagues who have a real personal sense about 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.800 this response to this because they've had their own children 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.840 or children close to them affected by the abuse of 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.880 social media. And there's no doubt there are abuses on 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.439 social media. And I've said throughout this process that some 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:14.439 sensible restrictions on young people's use of social media makes 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.240 sense to me, But I didn't believe in the rush process. 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.080 I do agree with what Anthony's sort. 0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.680 Of saying there about the fact that young people are 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.360 being engaged online and this is like the modern equivalent 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.720 of banning young people from reading newspapers. I'm in online 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:32.799 online discussions now is the modern news. And I'm going 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.960 to cut I'm going to banning young people from engaging 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.320 and that just in a blanket way seems totally wrong. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:38.960 Yeah, and I'm going to cut in there, Matt, just 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:40.920 very quickly because we're running out of time. But one 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:42.960 of the things they would read newspapers if they were 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.879 to read them, were to find out in New South 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.120 Wales we're not allowed to use our dishwashers or washing 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.600 machines because Chris Bowen's renewables an's allowed. Giving us enough 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.640 the lecturesity, your thoughts please on the disaster that is 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:55.320 Chris Bowen. 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.239 Look, mate, you can see before our own eyes. And 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.320 as Jeff Bezos said a few weeks ago, reality is 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.920 an undefeated champion. Reality is catching up with Chris Bowen's 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.759 fantastic or fairy tale plans, Brandy System. We do need 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.759 we do need people like Anthony out there to spread 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:12.719 the world on these issues too. 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.080 I don't know what his views are on this, but. 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.080 You need that online discussion to spread the word so 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.799 we avoid catastrophe before it happens. There was still a 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.680 chance here for Australians to turn around on this train 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.360 wreck incoming train wreck before everything breaks. But if we 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.040 keep going down the Chris Bowen route, well we'll eventually 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:30.879 realize he's wrong. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.160 It'll just be very, very painful. 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.799 Matt Canavan, great to chat to you as always. If 0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.680 we don't chat to you again, have a great Chrissy, 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.520 but I'm sure we chat to you soon in the 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:38.920 new year. 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:39.440 Thanks so much. 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.720 That's Senator Matt Canavan who made one of the great 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.479 speeches I thought in Parliament this week. 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:44.320 Anthony Kaluth. 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.080 You can catch him on Australians versus the Agenda. 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.080 Anthony, thanks so much for coming in. I'd love to 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.759 get your views on climate change. We'll do that next time. 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:54.000 For having me, excellent, No worries. 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:55.759 We'll be back in a tech Lots more to talk 0:50:55.800 --> 0:51:02.680 about here on Outsiders Don't Go Away. Hello, you're watching 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:08.680 Outsiders with Rita am I over sixteen, Panahee James, where's 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.520 that facial recognition button? 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.360 Morrow and Rowan VPN Dean. 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.880 I'm not going to dwell on the coalition voting and 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.120 indeed advocating for the under sixteen social media ban, other 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:24.000 than to limit myself to a few choice words selected 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:30.719 at random from Roger's thesaurus. Idiotic, brain dead, moronic, half witted, cretinous, 0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.800 shooting yourself in the foot, snatching defeat from the jaws 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:41.040 of victory, deep state, cia, azo, surveillance state, black, mirror, dystopia, totalitarianism, 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:45.480 Chinese social credit system, betrayal, and unworkable. You can put 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.880 those phrases and words in any order you so choose, 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.880 Suffice to say, I had a chat with one of 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:56.160 former Prime Minister John Howard's close advisors, Michael Bohme, on Friday, 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.360 and I asked Michael what his advice. 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.440 Would have been to Howard were John Howard currently. 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.480 Leader of the Opposition in these circumstances, and Michael's advice 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:11.040 was this, He says, I would have advised mister Howard 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:17.120 that blanket age ban on anything sounds overly authoritarian, so 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.560 I would have immediately urged caution. 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:21.480 Then, said Michael Bohone. 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.600 I would have asked John Howard to weigh up the 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:29.440 risks that under sixteen's face from social media against the 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:33.920 benefits that social media organized properly obviously can give to 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.440 under sixteens. And I would have said, said Michael Bohone, 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.719 that the potential good in terms of social interaction, education, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:49.080 information engagement and so on far far outweighs the potential harm. 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.040 So a ban is wrong. 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.560 And Michael Bohm went on to say I would have 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.120 urged John Howard to look at ways that as a 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:01.080 government we might help in providing the tool to limit harm. 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:07.920 But definitely, definitely no ban. Mister Dutton clearly and sadly 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:13.480 lacks such sage advice. I believe that this labor government 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:17.080 is so obnoxious and so dangerous to this country on 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:21.040 every front, that we face a national emergency in our 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:25.200 need to rid ourselves of Labor Greens and the Teals. 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.840 For that reason, I will carry on supporting the coalition 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:32.760 and I sincerely hope they win. But my instinct tells 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:37.520 me they have torpedoed themselves below the waterline, and that 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:45.360 this entirely unnecessarily and foolhardy experiment in unenforceable authoritarianism will 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:50.160 not only prove about as successful and electorally popular as 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.480 one of Malcolm Turnbull's tunneling machines or Kevin Rudd's pink bats, 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:58.000 but tragically may well cost the Coalition the election that 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:02.319 was therefore the taking. I hope I'm wrong, I really do. 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.480 As for mister Dutton, he desperately, desperately needs a whole 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:08.560 new team of advisors. 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:10.800 I do listen to people. 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:13.960 I hire experts, I hire to tough people, and I 0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:14.480 do listen. 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.040 And you know what, sometimes they're wrong. 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.319 You have to know what to do when to do it. 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:21.080 But sometimes they're wrong. 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:23.080 Precisely. 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.080 Somebody else who made more than a fool of himself 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:30.560 this week is the head of the ABC, Kim Williams. 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.719 I've long been. 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:33.880 A critic of the ABC, even though that's where my 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:38.279 own television career began, back on Andrew Denton's brilliant Grew 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:39.040 and Transfer. 0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:43.600 But I'm nonetheless critical of the ABC for two simple reasons. 0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:47.799 Firstly, there are of course always arguments for the taxpayer 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:51.719 subsidizing certain enterprises, either to get essential industries off the 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:56.280 ground or to sustain projects that provide a critical service. 0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.520 That the market does not otherwise support. 0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.680 But the ABC only falls a tiny bit into that 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.800 latter category in terms of certain rural services. In terms 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:11.920 of the vast majority of the ABC's news delivery, its opinion, 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:16.200 its political analysis, its so called comedy, its cultural or 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:20.040 sporting coverage, and so on, the ABC is, in today's 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:24.279 era of mass choice through digital media, utterly redundant. 0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:26.440 If people want to listen to. 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.520 The tiresome views of Paul Barry or Patricia Carvellis or 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:34.040 Laura tingle Well, they should pay out of their own 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.640 wallet via a subscription, not leech off the hard pressed 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.320 Ozzie taxpayer whose tax dollars should be going. 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.240 To much worthier causes. 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:47.920 The ABC has become a grotesque parity parody of state 0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:51.960 controlled political broadcasting, mocked and laughed at by many people 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:56.200 around the world, slavishly selling hardcore left wing and woke, 0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:01.799 green and indigenous and anti Israeli viewpoint across all its platforms, 0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.839 even to school kids via the insidious BTN shows, which 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:10.480 pump a daily sludge of leftist propaganda directly into the 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:14.680 impressionable minds of young school kids by the way, allow 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.960 me to point out another consequence of the idiotic under 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:22.400 sixteen ban on social media is that it means most 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:26.080 kids ossie kids will now get all their political education 0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:31.320 from the ABC. Well done, Liberal Party, what geniuses at work. 0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:34.880 Great job you've done there. But back to Kim Williams. 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.960 This week, an enterprising journalist from the ABC actually asked 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.959 Kim Williams at the National Press Conference Club what he 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:48.839 Kim thought of Joe Rogan, the American podcaster whose podcasts 0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.200 reach an audience of hundreds of millions of people. Now, 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.160 just for those who are not familiar with him, Joe 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:57.040 Rogan is a sports commentator and one time stand up 0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.840 comedian actor who set up a podcast and the infancy 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.400 of the industry back in two thousand and nine, covering 0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.480 literally everything under the sun. His interests are wide and varied, 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:10.239 and you can easily call him a modern modern everyday 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:15.080 man or every man, and his show is actually one 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.320 of the most popular, if not the most popular podcast 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.320 in the world now. Politically, Joe Rogan was at one 0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:23.560 time an avid fan of all people, the failed Democrat 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.880 Bernie Sanders. He's been called. Rogan has been called a libertarian, 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.600 a liberal. He's supported same sex marriage, women's rights, gun control, 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:35.120 and so on, but also very skeptical of vaccines and lockdowns. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.600 During COVID, his lengthy podcast cover all sorts of topics, 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:42.320 conspiracy theorists, theories, and at one point during COVID the 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:45.000 hard left rock stars Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:46.960 He might remember we mentioned this on Outside as. 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.880 They withdrew their entire catalogs from Spotify, saying they wouldn't 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:55.479 return until Spotify got rid of Joe Rogan from Spotify. Well, 0:57:55.680 --> 0:58:00.960 Spotify sensibly ignored Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, and surprise, surprise, 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.040 only recently they both came crawling back onto Spotify. But 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:07.800 it was Trump's three hour Donald Trump's three hour long 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:12.240 interview with Joe Rogan, which notched up some forty million views. 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:17.000 Apparently that is regarded by many as a pivotal moment 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.440 in the recent US election campaign. 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:22.080 You know what it is. I want to be a 0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:23.200 whale psychiatrist. 0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:26.520 It drives the whales freakin crazy. 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.240 I always got more publicity than other people. 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:30.680 I don't know exactly why. 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:31.760 Maybe you can tell me why. 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.720 I could definitely tell you, he said a lot of 0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:38.560 will maybe. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.520 Trump was normally, he was funny, he was engaging. 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.560 The interview helped convert a whole new generation of young 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:48.120 people on social media and of previous left wing Democrats 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:52.040 supporting into discovering the real Donald Trump the man and 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:58.080 discovering that they really liked him. To compound this, Kamala Harris, 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.240 ooh she did she You did not do an interview 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:02.080 with Joe Rogan. 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:02.840 Oh no, no, no. 0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.920 And then in the last few days of the campaign, 0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:09.600 Joe Rogan, a lifelong supposed lefty himself, came out and 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:11.160 endorsed Donald Trump. 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.520 I mention all of this for two reasons. 0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:17.440 Firstly, that is the power of social media that conservatives 0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:20.960 around the world should and could and will be harnessing 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:24.560 except here in Australia. To defy the left wing bias 0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:28.120 of the mainstream media. Trump used social media to convert 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:32.800 an entire generation of young people to a conservative cause. 0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:37.320 Peter Dutton and the Coalition have instead banned young people 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:39.960 from going on to social media, where we now know 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.840 they are more likely to come across and be influenced 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:46.040 by conservative and non woke ideas. 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:50.600 Again, great work, Liberal Party. 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:57.720 Whatever genius thought banning young people, banning them from getting 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:01.440 access to alternative conservative political life is what genius thought that. 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:02.640 Was the way forward. 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:04.600 And then this week back. 1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:07.520 To Kim Williams, head of the ABC, he was asked 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:11.600 what he, as head of the ABC, could learn from 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:18.240 Joe Rogan's phenomenal success. His answer confirmed every criticism ever 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.200 made about the ABC. 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.800 So I'm just wondering if you had any observations about 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.680 what's behind the Joe Rogan effect, how you believe he's 1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:31.400 managed to so successfully capture this huge market and then 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:35.200 for us here in Australia, you know, how would or 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.360 should the ABC be going about capturing that kind of audience. 1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:43.880 Look, I'm not sure that I'm the right person to 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:45.360 respond to that question. 1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:46.600 I am not a. 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:53.000 Consumer or enthusiast about mister Rogan and his work. 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:56.680 Well, Kim Williams is correct on that first point. You're 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.040 certainly the wrong person who asked such a question, and 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.080 he went on to prove the spades, but he also 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:03.520 proved that he is also the wrong person to be 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:07.040 leading the ABC and that the ABC should not be 1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:10.560 receiving one more red scent, or any red scent from 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.040 the average Australian taxpayer. And it was a great question. 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.200 By the way, how can we learn? But anyway, let's 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.960 hear more from Kim Williams. 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:27.160 I think people like mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities. 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:33.760 They prey on fear, they pray on anxiety, they pray 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:40.440 on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society. 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:45.040 Oh, I think I hear pots and kettles rattling. 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:50.360 What an arrogant, ill informed, miserable hypocrite. If there is 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:55.040 any platform in Australia that praise on fear, praise on 1:01:55.160 --> 1:02:00.080 people's vulnerabilities, and praise on their anxieties. 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:04.120 It is the the ABC. How many hours. 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:07.880 Every week does the ABC devote to gnawing. 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:09.840 Away like a dog with a bone on the so 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:15.240 called evils of the Australian Anglo Saxon settler, colonial community 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:19.400 and history, endlessly using its so called comedy shows to 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:24.880 shame and mock and denigrate non Indigenous Australians, shaming us 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:28.840 about Australia Day, shaming us about our ansect and. 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:34.880 Zach forbears, accusing our forefathers of genocide against Indigenous Australians. 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:39.520 Like this, the Crown is not above politics to us 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:44.360 because the symbol of that crown was represented the invasion, 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:48.920 the theft of land, and in our case, the exterminating war, 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:51.520 which next year will mark two hundred years. 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:56.480 And when they're not denigrating mainstream Australia or our history, 1:02:56.480 --> 1:03:00.720 they are endlessly pandering to the pagan doomsday cults of 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:02.880 climate change. 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:05.800 Parts of the region could face more than thirty days 1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:09.360 of flooding a year by mid century, and are already 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:13.680 facing sea level rises well above the global average. The 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:17.760 only question is how much time does the Pacific have left. 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:19.960 But now to one of the wonders of the natural world, 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:23.240 which may not be so wonderful in future. Great Barrier 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:26.240 reef on one way path to decay thanks to climate 1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:28.160 change with no end in sight. 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:33.040 On and on and on. Talk about deliberately raising the. 1:03:32.960 --> 1:03:37.360 Anxiety levels of our youth disease may not be rising. 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:39.640 That those anxiety levels sure are. 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:43.280 And terrorizing the vulnerable and the gullible that the planet 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:46.880 will end and they have no future worth living because 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:52.560 of fighting cowsand coal mines, or endlessly preying on the 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:58.240 anxieties of the LGBTQ community around so called hate speech 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:03.360 and vilification, or brushing the Israeli is a genocide line, 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:09.080 or allowing AB staff to glorify the joys of boycotting Israel, 1:04:09.280 --> 1:04:14.880 or relentlessly promoting solidarity with the pro Palestinian mob, or 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:19.840 demonizing conservative politicians like your Nigel Prages or your Donald 1:04:19.880 --> 1:04:22.480 Trump's and others, and don't get me started on the 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:28.720 ABC during COVID, absolutely disgraceful. The list of unacceptable and offensive, 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:33.600 heavily left wing biased ABC broadcasting is a very very 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:38.080 deep well indeed, and not for the fainthearted. But let's 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:42.600 go back to Kim Williams and his wildly unhinged comments 1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:43.680 about Joe Rogan. 1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:50.680 I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:57.000 someone has such remarkable power in the United States is 1:04:57.760 --> 1:05:00.720 something that I look at him believe. 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:04.440 Oh, do you deeply repulsive? 1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:05.200 Really? 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:08.720 Actually, it's the ABC that I find deeply repulsive, mister 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:11.240 Williams and the actions of some of its so called 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:14.720 comedians and on air talents. 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:18.360 Doing performing well. I'm going to go into that particular skift. 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:22.080 I use the word talent in its broadest possible sense. 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:26.160 And equally repellent to many is the unbelievable radical left 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:30.440 wing power that the ABC wields over a billion dollars 1:05:30.520 --> 1:05:33.200 a year. We give you to run your sinister cabal 1:05:33.600 --> 1:05:37.240 of climate cultists and indigenous activists and you get free 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:39.480 access to every living room in the land. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:43.120 That is unbelievable power. Here's an idea. 1:05:43.760 --> 1:05:46.920 Rather than giving you more taxpayers money, how about we 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:47.560 give you. 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:52.040 A lot lot less, like maybe net zero. How does 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:52.600 that sound? 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:56.840 Because what that billion dollars a year power has helped 1:05:56.920 --> 1:06:01.240 saddle this country with of yours is one dud government 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:06.080 after another Rudd, Gillard Turnbull. Remember how your organization formed 1:06:06.080 --> 1:06:08.919 all over Malcolm in his silly leather jacket, and now 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:12.960 this current labor horror show with its idiotic climate alarm 1:06:13.120 --> 1:06:17.840 is a rampant indigenous activism, endless acknowledgments of country. Why 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:22.400 while it's a strain shaming white Australia and what many 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:27.280 in the Jewish community view as your blatant anti semitism, ABC, 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:31.880 that is your organization, your platform, mister Williams, that is 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:33.520 your ABC. 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:40.720 I'm also absolutely in dismay that this can be a 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:45.720 source of public entertainment when it's really treating the public 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:46.520 as plunder. 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:50.800 A really dismay you want to see a source of 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:54.160 public entertainment that treats the public as plunder. 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:58.240 Try this, mister Williams, I am angry. 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:02.160 I don't like me mean angry. 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:08.120 Then by all means Australia take my furious button and 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:09.960 run this right for me. 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:16.680 Now, the easy thing would be to assume that that 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:21.320 was a catharsis so healthy, venting of the frustration that 1:07:21.360 --> 1:07:24.240 has built up over thirty years of the rubbish that 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:26.840 you have to put up with being an Indigenous woman 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:27.800 in this country. 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:29.919 Would that be right? 1:07:30.680 --> 1:07:36.840 There was something about that day where I was completely 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:40.760 out of my body? 1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:41.760 What do you say? 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:42.160 Yes? 1:07:42.280 --> 1:07:43.640 Raising anxiety levels? 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:47.040 Yeap, Yes, that would be the good old ABC promoting 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:49.520 unity and respect. I could have played you the episode 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:52.400 where the other character what did you do on the 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:54.640 cushion whatever? I won't go into it with a white 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:57.800 face on it or something like that, but mostfully that 1:07:57.840 --> 1:08:00.000 seems to have been scrubbed from the ABC quite right. 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:02.640 Or I could play you the endless sneering on the 1:08:02.680 --> 1:08:07.200 ABC on occasions like the Coronation or Australia Day, the 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:12.160 rampant pro Palestinian activism that infests your network. That stuff 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:15.080 is deeply repulsive to the vast majority of Australians who 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:20.800 pay those bloated ABC wages. As far as I'm concerned, Kim, 1:08:21.160 --> 1:08:24.120 you and your cohorts and the cozy ultimost studios are 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:28.519 the ones who endlessly, endlessly prey on the naivety and 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:33.439 plunder on the gullibility and vulnerability of Australians and in 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:34.880 particular of Australian youth. 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:37.200 Then, to prove just. 1:08:37.160 --> 1:08:39.599 How completely out of touch he is, Kim Williams went 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:43.760 on to Radio three AW to demand more money for 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:47.840 the ABC. He wouldn't specify how much or no, because 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:52.000 he claims the ABC is quote trusted and treasured, despite 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:57.000 as Tom Elliott, the host pointed out the relentlessly falling ratings, 1:08:57.080 --> 1:09:00.760 which would seem to disprove that point. 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:02.599 Well, how much do you want? 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:03.680 I mean you must have. 1:09:03.720 --> 1:09:05.760 You must have a figure in your head? 1:09:05.880 --> 1:09:06.400 Is it twice? 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:10.640 I'm not going to negotiate with government and have a 1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:15.599 discussion about the requisite investment in the ABC. I'm through 1:09:15.720 --> 1:09:18.680 your your good program. I'm not going to do that, 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:20.800 and you surely don't expect me to. 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:25.120 Well, I surely do expect you to, mister Williams, because 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.839 it is our money you see, it's our money. 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:31.960 I'm not sure you earn it, but it's ours. So yes, 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:33.240 we do accept. 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:37.599 We do expect you to consult with us, the people 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:38.920 who pay your bills, the. 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:42.479 Public, about how much more of our money you. 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:45.720 Want to use and want because, to be frank and 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:49.360 to paraphrase Kerry Packer, it's not as if you spend 1:09:49.439 --> 1:09:51.560 what we already give you. 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:53.200 Very well. 1:09:53.439 --> 1:09:57.080 Then, mister Williams let the mask slip when he defended 1:09:57.120 --> 1:10:00.200 his attack on Rogan as simply being his personal or 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:01.559 point of view. 1:10:01.320 --> 1:10:02.200 A no big deal. 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:07.280 I might say, I've been surprised since making that response 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:12.160 that there has been an astonishingly large pylon from people 1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:16.080 saying that I was an embarrassment to Australia. Why I'm 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:19.880 making an independent comment about mister Rogan should be an 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:21.160 embarrassment to the nation. 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.320 Beats me, doesn't beat me. 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:29.240 Kim Williams, you are the perfect embodiment of that bloated organization, 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:34.520 the ABC elite entitled unable. It would appear to distinguish 1:10:34.560 --> 1:10:40.040 between the organization and your own personal opinions. You were 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:43.920 speaking as the chair of the Australian National Broadcaster at 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:47.160 the Australian National Press Club, and you chose to sneer 1:10:47.280 --> 1:10:51.479 and poor, scorn and arguably the fame an independent American 1:10:51.560 --> 1:10:55.320 media personality who has built up a huge global following 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:59.160 simply by his own hard work and efforts. Yes, you 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:03.960 are an embarrassment, mister Williams. And as for deeply repulsive 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:06.800 dismaying and praying behavior. 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:08.880 Well it might be time to take a closer look 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:11.200 at your ABC. 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:21.040 We're joined by Gerard Holland, CEO of Page Research Center. 1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:23.599 Great to have you here in the studio. Gerard's where 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:26.200 you belong Here in the studio. Last time you were 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:28.519 out in the bush somewhere. Now you're back here. Good 1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:29.120 to have you here. 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:32.000 If you were out in the busher anywhere else in 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:33.720 New South Wales, you wouldn't have been able to use 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:35.680 a dishwasher. You wouldn't have been able to turn on 1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:40.240 your air conditioning. Yet again we learn that renewables, somehow 1:11:40.280 --> 1:11:42.200 or other aren't quite up to the job. 1:11:42.320 --> 1:11:44.240 Gerard, Well, and that's exactly right, Rowan. 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:46.160 It wouldn't be a surprise to any one that on 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:48.080 Wednesday this week we're all told not to use our 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:52.200 pool pumps, dishwashers, our air conditioners, lest the entire grid 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:57.360 collapse due to one unscheduled outage out at Rahring Power Station. Now, 1:11:57.439 --> 1:12:00.439 the reason for this is simple. We have massively invested 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:03.760 in renewables. The vast majority, eighty percent of investment over 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:07.280 the last ten years has gone towards intermittent and unreliable power, 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.439 and we've underinvested in that baseload capacity in the grid. 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:12.600 And since we've taken out three and a half gigawatts 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:15.600 at Ladell, since we've taken out that capacity at Hazelwood, 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.719 we haven't put new baseload power in. But our reliance 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:21.400 on coal hasn't changed. So all of these existing stations 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.599 which are aging are getting older, they're not they're getting 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:28.160 absolutely smashed, being ramped at a much higher capacity because 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:30.439 we're asking them to do the job that a more 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:33.639 stable grid was doing historically when we had more coal 1:12:33.680 --> 1:12:36.280 and more baseload power in our grid, we had that. 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:40.360 Over investment in renewables, but at the same time under 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:44.360 investment in what actually works at this stage, which is 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:49.600 fossil fuels, and our emissions are going up. Under the 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:51.200 alb and Easy government, this has been a. 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:52.240 Complaint of the greed. 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:57.680 Well, we're paying more we've got unreliability and we're not 1:12:57.720 --> 1:12:59.559 even meeting their missions cuts. 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:02.320 So exactly where is the win on the board here? 1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:05.000 Well, this is the frustration is that we've been promised 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:07.880 that renewables would be cheaper and they would be cleaner, 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:10.760 and evidently not cheaper. We're building lots and lots of 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:13.200 diffuse machines that were only using part of the time 1:13:13.400 --> 1:13:17.360 that are pushing up those spot prices, particularly in later 1:13:17.400 --> 1:13:19.920 in the evening when solar and wind aren't producing electricity. 1:13:20.200 --> 1:13:22.280 But at the same time, they're not cleaner either. Once 1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:25.360 you factor in the entire lifespan of these installations how 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:27.559 many times you have to replace them, you're only reducing 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:30.519 emissions by about forty percent than are existing cole fleet. 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:33.240 At the same time, you're destroying farmland, you're destroying our 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:37.240 national parks. You're having these massive buildouts of industrial plants, 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:40.360 but also the distribution and transmission lines as well, and 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:43.200 so they're not better for the environment, they're certainly not cheapest. 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:45.439 You start to wonder how we even gotten down this much. 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:50.000 You tell us a bit more about this, clear because 1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:52.400 Chris Bowden goes out and he says no, no, no, 1:13:52.520 --> 1:13:56.400 He insists so that renewables are the cheapest of energy, 1:13:56.439 --> 1:13:58.760 and yet we had a spark price hit I think 1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:03.040 sixteen or seventeen thousand dollars per megawhite hour at one 1:14:03.080 --> 1:14:05.160 point this week. At the same time, the premiere here 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:08.240 in New South Wales is saying, please don't come home 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:10.200 and turn on the air conditionryte their house is high 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:11.599 because you've been out of work all day. 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:12.920 Don't do that, please. 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:16.719 There sis to be a lot of fiddling around the numbers, 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:18.720 you know, we're here, typically. 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:20.040 Integrated service plan and things like that. 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:23.479 Tell us about what's actually happening with these numbers, because 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.880 it seems to be like Chris Bow and frankly, a 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:29.000 lot of the energy regulators have been really disingenuous here. 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:31.679 So I think there's two important things happening there, James. 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:34.360 The first one is that a system is not a market. 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:37.120 So proving that you can produce low cost energy at 1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:39.639 a very small fraction of the day does not then 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:42.000 mean that over the course of a twenty four hour 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:44.439 period that you can push prices lower. And that's the 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:46.760 first problem is that because renewables only operate a couple 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:49.360 of hours, it comes in those gushes and rushes. It 1:14:49.439 --> 1:14:51.880 means that you're much more reliant on peaking power and 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:55.240 that traditional cheaper power baseload rather than trucking along all day. 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:57.639 You're then having to turn it on in demand times 1:14:57.680 --> 1:14:59.680 when the renewables can't meet that demand. So that's what 1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.519 leads that fluctuating spot price that you mentioned. But the 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:05.360 other important thing to mention is that the Integrated System 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:07.879 plan is basically marking its own homework. 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:08.800 It's assuming that. 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:11.599 The government's policy position of eighty percent renewables by twenty 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:14.599 thirty and all of the battery storage that that will. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:15.680 Happen with no delays. 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:20.000 It assumes modeling on prices where most of those best sites, 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:22.160 all those gold sites, are already taken, and so they're 1:15:22.160 --> 1:15:23.840 not factoring in it's going to get more and more 1:15:23.880 --> 1:15:27.839 expensive to build more more onshore, wind and solar, especially 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:29.599 as you get further out in the grid, and so 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:32.040 it's not a fair reflection of the full system cost 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:33.640 of producing that electricity. 1:15:33.640 --> 1:15:35.759 They also want to see how government works. They should 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:37.679 take and you should take them down to the snowy Mountain. 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:39.519 They could go and stand in the tunnel with Florence 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:41.799 the machine and see how effective they are, sorry, jam. 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:44.240 As I say, but you know the other thing too 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:46.880 that this seems to ignore is that every percentage point 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.040 of solar and wind that you added. 1:15:49.400 --> 1:15:51.559 This makes grid less reliable, right. 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:53.080 I mean, they're certainly want to get to eighty three 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:54.760 percent I think by twenty thirty five. 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:56.679 But at that point you've. 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:58.760 Got to build all sort of stuff to keep that 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:00.920 going right, and there's no gas, what'll do gas? 1:16:01.240 --> 1:16:03.440 And the leading the call run down absolutely. 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:06.080 When you think about your anatomy of a power bill, 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:08.960 you've got the wholesale generator generator. You've then got the 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:11.120 system costs, You've got the green levees, which of course 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:13.040 we're slapping on to subsidize a lot of these things. 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:15.559 And then you've got the retailer slapping on the bit 1:16:15.560 --> 1:16:17.720 at the end to keep that wholesale portion of the 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:21.639 bill down. You want your cheapest electricity running for twenty 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:24.360 four hours, so they've got a steady supply of electricity 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:26.400 and they know how much they need to put into 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:28.479 their system. And then at those different times and you 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:30.519 expect more demand, you then want to bring in your 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:32.439 peaking power, which is usually gas which comes in the 1:16:32.479 --> 1:16:34.560 line with a solar grid. 1:16:34.520 --> 1:16:36.080 Or a renewable grid. And as you've said, the. 1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:38.160 More you put in it means that during the middle 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:40.440 of the day you have this huge rush of electricity 1:16:40.439 --> 1:16:42.280 with nowhere for it to go, so it either gets 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:45.040 wasted or you have to build huge amounts of battery 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:48.360 storage or hydro installations which are enormously expensive, just to 1:16:48.400 --> 1:16:51.280 capture that excess electricity, all the while your cheap, stable 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:53.840 electricity you've got turned off. And so this is what's 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:55.920 creating that fluctuating kind of system. 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:58.360 It's insane the way you describe it. 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:02.040 It's insane means that I don't know at what point, 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:05.639 whether it's twenty years, whether it's two hundred years, they 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.280 will look back at this period and look what read 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:13.320 hopefully two years, and it would be like the periods 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:14.800 we look at where they you know, they used to 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:18.320 burn witches, and we'll go what went wrong? How could 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:21.200 so many people be so idiotic? How could they cause 1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:23.280 that level of self harm. 1:17:23.280 --> 1:17:25.639 To a prosperous country. 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:29.360 Fast forward ten years, If we stay on this trajectory, 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:31.760 what are we going to be looking like? 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:34.400 Price wise, reliability wise. 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:36.960 So we've already seen over the last ten years in 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.880 real terms, electricity prices go up to sixty percent, and 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:42.519 on current trajectory, we're probably looking at other sixty to 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:45.879 seventy percent increases. I think the important thing to realize 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:47.519 is that you know viewers of your show, they would 1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:50.280 be much more energy and electricity literate than a lot 1:17:50.320 --> 1:17:51.920 of people are. We don't learn this in school, This 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.639 isn't currently talked about in most of our mainstream media. 1:17:54.680 --> 1:17:56.400 And most people are really well meaning. 1:17:56.720 --> 1:17:59.639 They trust what the government, they trust what the ABC 1:17:59.840 --> 1:18:02.439 and other elites in society are telling them, and they 1:18:02.479 --> 1:18:04.080 want to think that they're doing something that's good for 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:06.560 the environment, that's going to be cheaper. And this is 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:08.840 where I think we've been failed is you've got this 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.439 expertocracy who are marking their own homework, who aren't actually 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:15.800 factoring in the full system costs, who are completely shut 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:19.320 off to coal or nuclear because of what our politicians 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:22.200 have dictated them when they're sitting out and making their figures. 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:24.360 And so this means that the general public have never 1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:26.120 actually shown the full picture. 1:18:26.000 --> 1:18:29.960 And now under sixteen year olds don't have any access 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.760 to any alternative information that might lead them to think, oh, 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:34.880 hang on, this is something crooked going on. 1:18:34.920 --> 1:18:35.200 Here. 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:40.560 How embarrassing was it for Australia to have Ed Millerband 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:44.759 making sense at COP twenty nine and talking about nuclear 1:18:44.800 --> 1:18:47.800 and Alcus and the Americans saying to the Australians, you've 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:49.719 got to go nuclear. Why aren't you going nuclear? Obviously, 1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:52.320 if you're serious about zero missions, you go in nuclear, 1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:53.880 what will happen there? 1:18:53.960 --> 1:18:56.360 So it's embarrassing, but it's also quite concerning when you 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:59.720 think about our security apparatus, and particularly as we're transitioning 1:18:59.720 --> 1:19:02.280 to war aucas Let's be honest, we haven't been making 1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:05.200 those investments in our own military. In a strategic matter. 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:07.280 We're relying on the US and we're lying on the 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:09.320 Brits to do a lot of that heavy lifting. If 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.479 we don't get our skates on begin to set up 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:15.160 that regulatory framework to process the nukes, when they come here, 1:19:15.680 --> 1:19:17.120 they're going to leave us behind and they're going to. 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:18.599 Say, look, Australia, you are't pulling your weight. 1:19:18.640 --> 1:19:20.559 You're going to become a second player, and then we're 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.920 going to be completely stranded. So it's not just for 1:19:22.960 --> 1:19:25.080 our energy needs that we need to work this nuclear 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:27.519 stuff out. It's also for our national security and making 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:29.400 sure that we can meet our commitments within orcus. 1:19:30.280 --> 1:19:32.479 Jared Holand always great to have you here on Outsiders. 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:34.400 Have a great Chrissy, and we'll see you again in 1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:36.920 the new year. Thanks so much. That's of course, Jared Holland. 1:19:36.920 --> 1:19:40.360 There after the break, James's Donkey vote. Lots more here 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:43.360 clown show here on Outsiders, don't go way back in 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:49.879 a team. 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:52.720 Hello, you're watching it, Outsiders. I'm James Morrow here as 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:57.439 always with your host rohing Dean and reder Panahy. And 1:19:57.600 --> 1:20:00.920 in America, the holiday season in full swing. 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:01.320 Now. 1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:03.760 In a moment, I'm going to round up all the 1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:07.960 ways defeated Democrats are playing grinch true in everyone's good 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:12.760 time this Thanksgiving and Christmas season. But first, you know, 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:18.000 everyone is by now well familiar with Donald Trump's signature 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:21.880 dance move, the two fisted Trump dance that has become 1:20:21.960 --> 1:20:26.120 so popular that even players in the woke NFL are 1:20:26.160 --> 1:20:29.320 now doing it after touchdowns. Quite the change from back 1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:32.360 when they used to take the knee. Well, guess what, 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:35.840 it's not a new thing, the Trump dance. This is 1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:38.960 not just a new thing this campaign. I have found 1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:43.080 video of Donald Trump doing his thing while watching a 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:47.320 beauty pageant in what is believed to have been the 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:51.200 mid two thousands, so we're talking like twenty years ago. 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.960 Have a look, just. 1:20:55.000 --> 1:21:05.479 Ah, good times there. But you know who's not having 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:11.719 a good time American lefties, Democrats, progressive socialists, communists, hamas huggers, 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:15.040 the whole lot of them. I mean, think about what 1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:18.439 they've been through. Not only did Donald Trump win the 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:22.280 election with a two big two win popular and electoral majority, 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:28.280 but it's also yes, the holidays, which are always held 1:21:28.400 --> 1:21:32.120 for these types because they represent all sorts of things 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:38.160 like religion and family togetherness that they just absolutely loathe. 1:21:39.400 --> 1:21:42.320 This means, along with a slew of news and vice 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:45.240 columns running through the press about why, yes, it is 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:48.320 a good idea to cut your family off if you 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:51.400 don't agree with them, for the proving my point. 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:53.240 That leftism is indeed a cult. 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:57.040 They're also taking to the streets to do things like 1:21:57.439 --> 1:22:01.559 interrupt the cherished Macy's Thanksgiving They pray because I don't 1:22:01.600 --> 1:22:06.160 know Palestine. Tell you what liberal New Yorker's protesting for 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:10.320 Palestine really is the ultimate turkeys for Thanksgiving? 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:11.720 But I digress. 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:16.080 Meanwhile, newsite Axios has come out with its own hot 1:22:16.080 --> 1:22:20.280 take on Thanksgiving, saying that the holiday is really based 1:22:20.280 --> 1:22:25.600 on racial exclusion, while Squad member and Osheina Taylieb, a 1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:29.599 member of the Democrat Party in Good Standing, posted on 1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:33.400 Instagram connecting the war in Palestine with the fate of 1:22:33.479 --> 1:22:38.400 quote unquote indigenous people in America. She wrote, quote we 1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:42.400 more the indigenous people killed by European settlers and the 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:44.559 United States in order. 1:22:44.360 --> 1:22:49.840 To steal their land. Yes, that's right. Just think about that. 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:55.479 There a popular sitting Democrat congresswoman essentially tip a bucket 1:22:55.520 --> 1:22:59.599 of the proverbial on America's favorite holiday. And not only that, 1:23:00.160 --> 1:23:05.200 suggested the entire United States is illegitimate and stolen. We 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:08.759 can find a replace in the Australian Senate now. Anyone 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:11.599 wondering why they aren't on a winning streak these days? 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:13.160 These Democrats, I don't. 1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:14.680 Know, it's beyond me. 1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:18.240 Meanwhile, with Thanksgiving in the books, it's time for Americans 1:23:18.280 --> 1:23:21.880 to do a little Christmas shopping. And Joe Biden, yeah, 1:23:21.920 --> 1:23:24.080 you know, the guy who's still the president. He was 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:26.920 out hitting the Black Friday sales. According to the New 1:23:27.000 --> 1:23:30.680 York Post, Biden was seen picking up a copy of 1:23:30.760 --> 1:23:35.960 Columbia University professor Khalid Rashidi's book The One Hundred Year 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:40.720 War on Palestine, A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance. 1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:44.680 The book argues that quote the modern history of Palestine 1:23:44.720 --> 1:23:48.080 can best be understood in these terms as a colonial 1:23:48.120 --> 1:23:51.680 war waged against the indigenous population by a variety of 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:55.400 parties to force them to relinquish their homeland to another 1:23:55.560 --> 1:24:00.200 people against their will. Oh well, yes, Joe Biden's He's 1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:01.879 probably too checked out to read. 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:02.839 A book like that. Anyway. 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:06.559 Maybe it was just a gift for Ashley, But ordinary 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:09.720 Americans without the benefit of Secret Service protection when they 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:13.439 go shopping have not had such an easy time filling 1:24:13.479 --> 1:24:17.599 their Christmas list, not just due to bidener inflation, of course, 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:23.120 but yes, you guessed it. Prope Palestine demonstrators seen here 1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:26.280 taking over a Boston shopping while as locals made their 1:24:26.320 --> 1:24:46.760 way to again the Black Friday sales. Have a look, 1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:54.400 where are the Moull cops? 1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:54.760 And all that? 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:57.720 I gotta wonder anyway, folks, this all just proves it. 1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:01.400 The Left is the reason why we can't have nice things. 1:25:02.040 --> 1:25:05.120 Can you imagine how insufferable things would be if these 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:09.479 people had actually won that election? Well they didn't, which 1:25:09.479 --> 1:25:12.680 brings me to this. Donald Trump has just posted this 1:25:12.720 --> 1:25:18.680 fantastic video imagining National Lampoon's Christmas vacation if it was 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:23.600 hosted by the Bidens instead of the Griswolds. 1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:27.280 If this turkey tastes half as good as it looks, 1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:29.120 I think we're all in for a very big treat. 1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:33.640 Okay, save the neck or make Clark. 1:25:34.600 --> 1:26:07.000 Okay, Adam terrific staff Thanks James, coming out clown show 1:26:07.080 --> 1:26:07.679 in a tick. 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:17.639 Roll up, roll up, step right this way. 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:21.600 It's the freakiest, scariest, craziest show in town. It's the 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:27.519 Camera clown Show featuring everybody's favorite mean girls. First, we 1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:31.880 had the Labor mean Girls, Petulant Penny, Katty Katie and 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:37.639 Kookie Christina, allegedly three of the nastiest, most spiteful, most vicious, 1:26:37.640 --> 1:26:41.120 snider and sneering women to ever grace our Parliament. Called 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:44.400 the mean Girls by their own peers because of the 1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:48.240 way they are said to have treated some female members 1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:52.719 of their own Labor party, including, of course, how. 1:26:52.520 --> 1:26:54.880 They allegedly bullied. 1:26:54.560 --> 1:26:58.520 Chastised, ostracized and alienated one of their own colleagues. 1:26:58.800 --> 1:26:59.559 A fan of this. 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:03.080 Show as it happens and a funny and fiercely intelligent woman, 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:06.800 I and many Australians on all sides of politics, had 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:11.639 genuine affection for that being the late Labor Senator Kimberly Kitching. 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:16.479 Allegations denied, of course, by the three Labor senators seen 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:20.240 here on a hidden camera auditioning for Walkorn roles in 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:21.759 William Shakespeare's Macbeth. 1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:27.599 When shall we three meet again in thunder life thing? 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:31.640 Or in way when the very Burly's done, when the 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:33.599 Battle's lost and won. 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:38.360 Many have claimed the bullying by the mean girls contributed 1:27:38.720 --> 1:27:42.160 to the stress linked to the heart attack that killed 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:46.479 Kimberly Kitching. Yet here's how Anthony Albanizi responded to those 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:48.639 allegations back at the time. 1:27:50.000 --> 1:27:54.920 Do I have confidence in Penny Wong as Senate lady? 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:56.600 Yes I do, Yes, I do. 1:27:57.040 --> 1:28:01.040 And Katie Gallagher and Kristnick nearly are part of the solution. 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:02.679 They're not part of the problem. 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:08.840 Hmmm, trust me, Penny Wong, Katie Gallagher and Christina can 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.400 Nearly are part of the solution. Well, this country is 1:28:12.439 --> 1:28:16.439 in serious hubble, bubble, toil and trouble. But now, folks, 1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:19.559 it's time for the sequel. Direct from the Burly Griffin, 1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:24.160 Big Top. It's bigger and better than ever, even bigger 1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:26.320 than that murder of shrieking crows. 1:28:26.520 --> 1:28:29.360 Roll Up, Roll Up for Mean Girls. 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:33.720 Two, featuring three of the weirdest, wackiest, wokest witches to 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:37.680 ever grace the crossbenchers. You'll be stunned, You'll be horrified, 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:39.840 You'll be reaching for the paper bag. 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:43.320 Yes, here they are, in all their glory, sorry, all 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:44.120 their glory. 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:48.480 First up, fabulous Fatima, the girl who can see racists 1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:50.400 even when they're not actually there. 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:56.200 In another statement, she says, we're bringing in people from 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:59.200 South Africa at the moment. There's a huge amount coming 1:28:59.200 --> 1:29:00.960 into Australia who have disease. 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:01.960 They've got eight. 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:05.160 If that is not racist, what is it the fact 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:09.840 that you would say, just weeks ago to Senator for 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:16.599 rookie stuff back to Pakistan. You're not just vindictive, mean nasty, 1:29:17.240 --> 1:29:19.320 you bring disgrace to the human race. 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:21.759 Hmm charming. 1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:27.360 Then there's Motormouth Marine, everybody's favorite clown litigant who's determined 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:30.200 to have her voice heard the width and breadth of 1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:32.160 the land, whether you want to hear it or not. 1:29:33.600 --> 1:29:36.840 That people of Hollah do not have to be grateful 1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:41.439 or to keep quiet, and I will be speaking out 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:45.080 more loudly and more strongly than ever before. 1:29:46.600 --> 1:29:47.320 Heaven help us. 1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:51.280 And finally, Loopy Lydia, she of the raised fists and 1:29:51.320 --> 1:29:54.479 the cloak made of dead possums, who got thrown out 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:57.480 of the clown Show this week for stealing the spotlight 1:29:57.600 --> 1:29:58.520 yet again. 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:03.880 Has just been passed to suspend Lydia Thorpe from the 1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:07.200 Senate after she ripped up a motion by Pauline Hanson 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:09.639 on the chamber floor, appeared to throw it at her, 1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:11.720 and flipped the bird as she walked out. 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:16.120 And here is Lydia weirdly suggesting that her. 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:19.840 Spot in Parliament belongs to the Thorpes. 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:25.400 I'm guided by my ancestors, guided by my people. 1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:29.879 My Senate spot belongs to my people. 1:30:34.000 --> 1:30:34.439 Wow. 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:38.320 Well, Lydia's people are, of course, predominantly, but not exclusively, 1:30:38.400 --> 1:30:43.400 Anglo Saxon or Celtic. Seven of her eight great grandparents 1:30:43.520 --> 1:30:48.879 are what in the vernacular we Aussies referred to as poms. Indeed, 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:53.560 a genuine racist would call Senator Thorpe by the nickname 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.160 pommy Lydia, So. 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:56.240 Maybe that'll catch on. 1:30:56.439 --> 1:31:01.360 This delightful trio of angry hardcore left wing women. Motormouth Marine, 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:06.360 Fabulous Fatima and Pommy Lydia have been labeled the Aussie 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:11.080 Squad by the Australian Jewish Association in honor of their 1:31:11.120 --> 1:31:16.480 astonishing resemblance to the Democrats, equally crazy and tiresome forsome 1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:20.439 the squad who graced the US Congress. But lovers of 1:31:20.479 --> 1:31:24.599 slapstick comedy did not walk away disappointed from this week's 1:31:24.640 --> 1:31:29.439 clown show, which was only just warming up. For reasons 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:33.760 best known only to himself, the former serious politician Peter 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:36.680 Dutton this week decided to run away from reason and 1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:40.519 rational thought to join the circus himself with this this 1:31:40.760 --> 1:31:45.640 bizarre self immolation act known as legislating a completely unworkable 1:31:45.640 --> 1:31:48.760 and ridiculous law that has made Australia yet again the 1:31:48.840 --> 1:31:52.040 laughing stock of the free world, the under sixteen ban 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:53.960 on social media. 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:57.600 I think it's a cracking out coven. We pushed the 1:31:57.600 --> 1:32:01.120 government to this position to come. He's had the technology 1:32:01.160 --> 1:32:04.320 now without collecting any of your data, they could identify 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:07.720 your face as being under or over sixteen, and they 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:10.160 should deploy that technology as they do across a number 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:11.760 of their other platforms. 1:32:14.200 --> 1:32:17.240 This is mister Dutton's first appearance on the Canberra Clown Show. 1:32:17.320 --> 1:32:20.600 Let's hope he doesn't make a regular habit of it. Meanwhile, 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:23.880 someone who has decided to hang up his clown suit 1:32:24.240 --> 1:32:28.800 is cheap liberal bedwetter. Simon Burningham, who used his farewell 1:32:28.880 --> 1:32:37.439 speech to warn conservatives against avoiding engaging in divisive culture wars. Well, here, 1:32:37.560 --> 1:32:41.759 of course, is Simon Birmingham practicing what he preaches byer 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:47.760 avoiding divisive culture wars. And here is Simon Birmingham definitely 1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:51.519 not engaging in divisive culture wars by going on the 1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:53.920 ABC and urging young people to get. 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:55.160 The phiz of vaccine. 1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:59.679 And here is Simon Burningham avoiding divisive culture wars last 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:02.800 year by point blank refusing to back his leader Peter 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:08.040 Dutton and campaign against the voice here on Clown Show. 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:11.880 We obviously wish Simon Birmingham all the best in his 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:15.320 future endeavors. But in honor of his sterling work helping 1:33:15.800 --> 1:33:18.719 prop up the Big Tent during the Liberal Clown Show 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:22.559 in its heyday under Ringmaster Malcolm Turnbull, we are proud 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:26.479 to award Simon Birmingham the coveted Christopher Pine Cherry Bar, 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:30.479 Black Hand, Bedwetter's Award for treachery to the Conservative cause. 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:35.240 Who can forget the fragrant Christopher Pine rousing cry and 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:38.000 the winner's circle no less of the cherry bar back 1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:50.360 in twenty seventeen, and we get. 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:53.599 To deliver the foro to loam is marriage to quality. 1:33:55.760 --> 1:33:59.479 Speaking of Christopher Pine and Simon Birmingham, I dug up 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:02.639 this photo of the two of them clearly displaying their 1:34:02.760 --> 1:34:08.320 unswerving loyalty and heartfelt affection towards the Conservative Prime minister 1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:12.559 who got them elected into power in a landslide victory. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:16.920 So is the Black Hand Carnival finally over? And how 1:34:16.960 --> 1:34:20.479 on earth will the Canra Clown show go on without 1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:41.760 Bedwetter Burmo Let's ask Judith Durham Hyperbowl, the Wacky Way, 1:34:41.960 --> 1:34:45.360 Crazy World, and how they exaggerate and use our language, 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:48.080 steal our language from us Riata The New York Times 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:49.080 up to their old tricks. 1:34:49.680 --> 1:34:51.920 They have come up with the term for women. Guess 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:55.120 what it is? This is women have become a subcategory 1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:59.360 of their own gender. They're now called that use the 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:05.200 term non transgender women, transgender. 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:08.000 Small sub non transgender women. 1:35:07.840 --> 1:35:11.760 Being just women to being cis women and now where 1:35:11.960 --> 1:35:13.840 non transgender women. 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:15.960 It is comical. 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:20.600 But this is how deep the indoctrination in the mediaies 1:35:20.760 --> 1:35:26.240 with the trans lobby. They have completely uh infiltrated and 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:28.800 hijacked the narrative there. 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:31.759 But it's beyond comical. 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:34.479 It's sinister, isn't it, James, because it is all welly 1:35:34.479 --> 1:35:37.519 and it's the distortion of So you're you're now accepting, 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:39.719 as you said, that women are a subset of non. 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:46.280 You know, real women. They didn't want to natural born women. 1:35:46.640 --> 1:35:50.800 They don't want to just write the word women without qualification. 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:54.160 Like the idea that that there's just women without qualification 1:35:54.280 --> 1:35:57.320 there is now impossible because of course, you know, you 1:35:57.360 --> 1:35:59.840 can't set people against each other if you haven't you know, 1:36:00.040 --> 1:36:02.240 cut them up into different sort of categories and so on, 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:03.760 like they're doing with this sort of thing. 1:36:04.320 --> 1:36:05.920 But you know, I've got some good news here for 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:09.120 so it is fascinating. 1:36:08.479 --> 1:36:11.439 To me how Donald Trump is now even though we 1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:14.040 are weeks, you know, eight weeks away from inauguration day, 1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:17.400 seven weeks, he is now essentially the day facto president 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:20.439 of the United States, and everybody is now dancing to 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:22.960 his tune. And we have seen this past week on 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:25.000 the subject of the border. He's got this great new 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:28.040 born Chief Tom Holman, who is so tough and so 1:36:28.080 --> 1:36:30.840 strong on this stuff. He has threatened to arrest mayors 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:34.240 who don't go along with, you know, enforcing the law 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:36.080 about illegal migrants. Who would have thought that was a 1:36:36.080 --> 1:36:39.679 crazy idea. Anyway, The latest in this is New York 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:44.240 Governor Kathy Hochel. Now, New York is a sanctuary state. 1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:46.479 They've of course got all sorts of problems with Trenda 1:36:46.560 --> 1:36:51.559 Arnegua Venezuelan gangs, things like that. She has now said, oh, no, no, no, no, sorry, 1:36:51.640 --> 1:36:54.679 we love legal immigrants, We love legal immigrants in New York, 1:36:54.760 --> 1:36:59.160 but we will call ice on any illegal who's called 1:36:59.160 --> 1:37:02.759 committing a crime. Is a huge change in total And again, 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:05.559 you know, this starts from the top and flows downwards, 1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:08.479 that leadership that Trump is providing on the border, and 1:37:08.520 --> 1:37:09.400 it is fascinating. 1:37:09.400 --> 1:37:10.360 You know, we spoke about it. 1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:13.519 Earlier in the program, guys about how even in Britain 1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:16.519 with Keir Starmer, he is starting to talk Trump is 1:37:16.640 --> 1:37:21.720 changing the world. Suddenly, the whole, absolutely, the whole open. 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:23.519 Borders narrative is over. 1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:27.600 It's over, and it's only because Donald Trump won that 1:37:27.720 --> 1:37:30.400 around the world everybody is now looking at open borders 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:32.439 as disaster that it has been. 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:35.200 Open borders over reads a climate change will be over 1:37:35.240 --> 1:37:37.000 when Trump pulls out a thingy. 1:37:37.600 --> 1:37:38.320 We've got. 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:42.360 Everything woke is being attacked by Trump without him even 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:45.000 lifting a finger. Yet we've got Jay Baticharia, who we 1:37:45.080 --> 1:37:47.439 referred to a couple of weeks ago. Last week we 1:37:47.479 --> 1:37:49.880 said that the rumors were that Trump was thinking of 1:37:49.920 --> 1:37:52.240 nominating him to head up the NIH. That has now 1:37:52.280 --> 1:37:55.320 been announced that Trump is nominating him, hasn't been confirmed 1:37:55.360 --> 1:37:57.639 yet that he is the nominee for heading up the NIH. 1:37:57.680 --> 1:37:58.360 So that's the whole. 1:37:58.479 --> 1:38:01.240 This is the guy who is the antithesis of the 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:04.280 entire draconian COVID thing. We had him here on outside 1:38:04.280 --> 1:38:07.000 as before anybody else that did. By the way, here 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.320 is Ja Bachuchari is speaking with the IPA when he 1:38:09.360 --> 1:38:10.720 was in Australia a couple of years ago. 1:38:11.800 --> 1:38:13.439 Why the lockdown in the first place. I think most 1:38:13.439 --> 1:38:16.120 countries just copy China. The World Health Organization looked that 1:38:16.240 --> 1:38:19.360 Chinese response in January twenty twenty and said, look at worked. 1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:22.680 We committed ourselves to a policy that has had devastating 1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:26.080 consequences on the poor, the vulnerable, the working class, and 1:38:26.560 --> 1:38:29.160 we did it in good faith, but they were mistaken. 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:32.200 Admitting that mistake, admitting that those mistakes led to those 1:38:32.240 --> 1:38:34.760 harms as a very difficult thing to do. If we 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:37.439 keep this kind of policy in place, then I think 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.439 that is the end of liberal democracy. The censorship and 1:38:40.200 --> 1:38:44.559 the repression and the civil liberties violations we face will 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:45.880 become the norm. 1:38:46.360 --> 1:38:49.840 And the great poetic justice here Rodan Rita is that 1:38:50.080 --> 1:38:53.960 he is nominated to head the very National Institutes of Health, 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:57.519 whose bureaucracy we know tried to silence him and the 1:38:57.600 --> 1:39:01.200 other signatories and authors of the Great Baronton Declaration, which 1:39:01.479 --> 1:39:04.120 set out the way that we should have responded to 1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:06.080 COVID from the beginning. 1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:08.320 And basically, Joe's here on Outsiders right from the beginning, 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:09.280 saying what he is now. 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:12.960 Saying, Rita, Yes, you're right, I agree. 1:39:16.160 --> 1:39:18.599 I want you to go on to the topic about 1:39:19.479 --> 1:39:23.080 the Trump effect, and James mentioned that he is now 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:26.920 the president already, He's not just a president X, He's 1:39:26.960 --> 1:39:27.519 the president. 1:39:28.000 --> 1:39:32.599 And that's evident on Thanksgiving when Justin Trudeau, the neo 1:39:32.640 --> 1:39:40.160 Marxist Kendole himself Adel Junior and met with Donald Trump, 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:45.320 talked about tariff's trade, talks about all sorts of policies 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:45.639 are there. 1:39:45.680 --> 1:39:48.000 He is a Mari Lago. Look at him, smiling, Look 1:39:48.080 --> 1:39:48.519 happy he is. 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:53.719 And this is a big surprise because guess what, Joe 1:39:53.720 --> 1:39:55.280 Biden is actually still the president. 1:39:55.320 --> 1:39:56.720 He's still the leader of the free world. 1:39:56.720 --> 1:39:58.760 You would think Justin Trudeau would be somewhere out and 1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:02.400 around the White House having these meetings, but no, it's 1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:07.000 already this And you're so right, the Trump effect, whether 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:10.720 it's Kirs Starmer talking like a conservative about immigration or 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:14.880 Kathy Hokel, there is this change that they can't ignore the. 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:17.200 Numbers. 1:40:17.240 --> 1:40:20.759 They can't ignore that there is an overwhelming mandate there 1:40:20.840 --> 1:40:22.400 and people want to see change. 1:40:22.479 --> 1:40:25.840 And this literally is a renaissance of the West. If 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:28.519 things go well, we will see Donald Trump the next 1:40:28.560 --> 1:40:32.080 four years. We will see across the world all those 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:34.120 kind of all the things we've been talking about on 1:40:34.160 --> 1:40:37.479 shows like this for years, about the transgender stuff, the 1:40:37.479 --> 1:40:39.679 woke stuff, the climate stuff, all of this is now 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:43.479 under the spotlight and it will be transformed for the better. 1:40:43.560 --> 1:40:45.920 Mark my words. 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:48.120 It's one of the most exciting times to be alive. 1:40:48.160 --> 1:40:51.000 I believe under what we're going to see under Trump 1:40:51.080 --> 1:40:52.120 is just sensational. 1:40:52.400 --> 1:40:54.559 And when you see Rita and James the. 1:40:54.560 --> 1:40:56.680 Way they attacked him, he was adult hit that he 1:40:56.800 --> 1:40:58.679 was a fascist, he was this and that, and now they're. 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:00.720 All Russia very quickly on this. 1:41:00.840 --> 1:41:02.960 It's also fascinating to look where the corporate world is 1:41:03.000 --> 1:41:06.479 going on this. So many huge corporations now Walmart, I 1:41:06.479 --> 1:41:09.080 think was the latest ones. They are all ditching their 1:41:09.680 --> 1:41:13.680 programs of the big funds that invest in ESG and 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:16.519 we're using ESG as a determinant where they put your 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:18.479 money in your super or whatever. They're all taking a 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:20.400 second look at that again because I realize there's no 1:41:20.439 --> 1:41:20.920 money in it. 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:23.600 It's all a joke. It's just just friction in the workplace. 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:26.160 Make sure you ware Street to Panahey during the week 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:28.800 left he's losing it on Friday. James's US report on 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:31.160 Friday as well, what's happening here on Sky News. We'll 1:41:31.160 --> 1:41:34.320 see you on Outsiders next Sunday morning, bright and. 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:36.160 Early at nine am. Thank you so much for watching